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Fictional Women Around the World: Evie O’Connel · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. I welcome stuff. I've
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  Speaker 1: never told you a prediction of iHeartRadio and welcome to
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  Speaker 1: another sub sub sub subsub subsub segment of fictional women
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  Speaker 1: around the world. And for this one, we are talking
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  Speaker 1: about ev from The Mummy. Yes, times lost all meaning,
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure our episode on the Mummy three has
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  Speaker 1: already come out, but it should have. I think so, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it should have, but things chaotic case happen. But we
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  Speaker 1: have talked about her before in our classic episode on
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  Speaker 1: the Mummy and the Mummy Too, we talked about the
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  Speaker 1: Mummy too. I feel like we talked about her in
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  Speaker 1: some other episode. But anyway, we've talked about her before.
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  Speaker 1: But we thought since with the news that they're possibly
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  Speaker 1: bringing Rachel Vice, sed Brynd Fraser back for The Mummy four.
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  Speaker 1: The og, the og. This is movies that both of
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  Speaker 1: us like. It's the end of the year, we thought
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  Speaker 1: we would bring this character back.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: So we are talking about Evelyn e v O'Connell, Nate
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  Speaker 1: Carnahan from the Mummy franchise, the original Mummy franchise. Not
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  Speaker 1: it's Tom CRU's foolery that happened that first introduced In
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  Speaker 1: the nineteen ninety nine film The Mummy, she was largely
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  Speaker 1: played by Rachel Weiss and then Maria Bello and the
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  Speaker 1: third one. As we discussed in The Mummy three, whether
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  Speaker 1: it's come out or.
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  Speaker 2: Not, you know what. Either way, she needs to make
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  Speaker 2: a cameo somehow, whether she's cool the whole background of
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  Speaker 2: one part or some reason like she got a raw deal.
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  Speaker 2: I feel so bad for her, honestly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be I think that'd be a nice
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  Speaker 1: touch to bring her back in. So Evie was a
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  Speaker 1: character that resonated with a lot of people, and there's
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  Speaker 1: actually a lot written about her through a feminist lens.
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  Speaker 1: This was another episode that I had to just stop
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  Speaker 1: because there's so much written about her. This is supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be a shorter segment than it was getting out
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  Speaker 1: of hand, but people have written a lot about her,
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  Speaker 1: so let's get into it. Evie was born in England
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  Speaker 1: and grew interested in Egypt at a very young age.
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  Speaker 1: Her father was a famous explorer of Egypt and he
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  Speaker 1: married an Egyptian woman. They gave birth to Evie and
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  Speaker 1: her brother, Jonathan, who, by the way, I had an
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  Speaker 1: embarrassing crush on when this movie came out.
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever seen Sliding Doors? No, as him and
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  Speaker 2: Gwyneth Paltrow, and he plays the lead, the main romantic guy.
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  Speaker 2: And I had seen him first in the Mummy, so
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  Speaker 2: that did not correlate.
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  Speaker 1: I could see that. Yeah, he shot up in the
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  Speaker 1: Last of Us. I was like, wait, right.
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  Speaker 2: Right, I mean, but like that's the in England. I
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  Speaker 2: think he was kind of the one of the men.
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  Speaker 1: The men, Yeah, you grant the universe. I'm kind of
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  Speaker 1: surprised I went for him. I don't know why. So,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's a running joke that the whole cast.
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  Speaker 2: Is like a yes, a sexual awakening for sure.
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  Speaker 1: For Shure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he is charming, but he's also supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be goofy and like conniving.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Yeah, Yeah, what was that doing anyway, There's
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  Speaker 1: nothing Wrolse. It's fine. So Evie was specifically interested in artifacts,
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  Speaker 1: and even more specifically the Lost Book of amen Ra.
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  Speaker 1: Her parents died in a plane crash that some believed
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  Speaker 1: was due to a curse of a mummy her her
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  Speaker 1: father had disturbed.
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  Speaker 2: Do we have a prequel? Possibly?
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  Speaker 1: What I know? Right, I had never heard of this.
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  Speaker 1: This is why I had to stop because I'm pretty
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  Speaker 1: sure this is from like a comic. It's not in
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  Speaker 1: the rhy movie. No, but anyway, Yes, they die in
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  Speaker 1: this plane crash. Maybe a mummy had something to do
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  Speaker 1: with it. While Jonathan seemingly we don't know, but seemingly
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  Speaker 1: wasted his inheritance. Evie used it to study and to
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  Speaker 1: apply to the renowned Bimbridge scholars but her application was
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  Speaker 1: denied due to lack of experience. So Evie then starts
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  Speaker 1: a job at the Cairo Museum of Antiquities, apparently in
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  Speaker 1: part due to the reputation of her parents. Like it's
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  Speaker 1: implied that she never would have gotten the job without.
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  Speaker 2: Her He said they were heavy contributors, like financial contributors.
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  Speaker 1: So rude, so very rude. I mean she did well,
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  Speaker 1: let's get into this part. So on one fateful day,
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  Speaker 1: while shelving books, she accidentally set off a domino effect
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  Speaker 1: with the bookcases of the library, knocking all of them over.
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  Speaker 1: Dejected and yes kind of this guy, her boss yells
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  Speaker 1: at her about this. She runs out, and who does
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  Speaker 1: she find Her brother, who tells her that he has
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  Speaker 1: found something that she should see. At first, she dismisses
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  Speaker 1: him until she sees that it's a puzzle box and
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  Speaker 1: that she suspects that it's actually a real meaningful find.
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  Speaker 1: Inside the box is an ancient map. This leads to
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  Speaker 1: her meeting Rick O'Connell, the person Jonathan stole the key from.
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  Speaker 1: Rick reveals he has been to Hominoptra, the velocity of Hominoptra,
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  Speaker 1: and that he can take them there if they get
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  Speaker 1: him off of death Row, and also he kisses ev
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  Speaker 1: in this. So Evie does get him off of death
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  Speaker 1: Row by bartering, and Rick agrees to guide them to Hominoptra.
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  Speaker 1: More sexual attention between Evie and Rick, more pining happens,
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  Speaker 1: more mishaps. They arrive at Hominoptra. Evie is the first
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  Speaker 1: to arrive and kind of a sort of race that
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  Speaker 1: they're doing. Rick supports her, stealing and gifting tools for her,
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  Speaker 1: looking to her for leadership. There's a drunken, flirtatious night.
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  Speaker 1: Eevie shows off her knowledge and expertise in multiple ways
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  Speaker 1: in the following scenes as she explores the ruins and
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  Speaker 1: searches for the Book of amen Ra while avoiding the
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  Speaker 1: American crew of explorers. However, what do they find? A
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  Speaker 1: mummy and a sarcophagus opened by the key that they have.
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  Speaker 1: The mummy is strangely still decomposing. Later, they find out
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  Speaker 1: the Americans have found the Book of the Dead, which
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  Speaker 1: Evie steals, deals and opens with her key, finds an
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  Speaker 1: inscription and reads it never good, Never good in horror movies,
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  Speaker 1: just Gotta Say, and unleashes the seven plagues and brings
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  Speaker 1: the Mummy back to life. While Rick wants to run,
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  Speaker 1: Evie is determined to fight and find a way to
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  Speaker 1: stop the Mummy to fix her mistake. It turns out
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  Speaker 1: that the mummy, m Otep, has determined Evie will be
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  Speaker 1: his sacrifice to bring back his love a Noaksuna Moon.
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  Speaker 1: While ev is fighting to be included, Rick is trying
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  Speaker 1: to protect and sideline her. The Mummy finds her and
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  Speaker 1: kisses her, and later kills most of their comrades and
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  Speaker 1: corners the survivors, convincing Evie to give up and go
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  Speaker 1: with him, which she does of her own decision and
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  Speaker 1: is transported to hominoptra Oh. And this is after she
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  Speaker 1: realized that Bembridge scholars had mistranslated the location of the
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  Speaker 1: Book of Amunrah, which she believes, you can kill him
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  Speaker 1: so many good quotes from this movie, so many good quotes.
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  Speaker 1: The Mummy prepares to sacrifice her, but Rick and Crue
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  Speaker 1: release her and she is able to translate a passage
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  Speaker 1: from the Book of Amonra that makes the Mummy mortal
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  Speaker 1: and Rick kills him. So yes, they did find the
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  Speaker 1: Book of Omonro, the actual one. Uh. They ride off
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  Speaker 1: together in the sunset, so honestly, I could have. I've
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  Speaker 1: saw that movie so many times. I could have. This
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  Speaker 1: could have been a very long episode, but I was
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  Speaker 1: trying to condense it, so that was me condensing it. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: the next two are going to be very condensed though,
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  Speaker 1: so In the second one, they have a kid named
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  Speaker 1: Alex and she has past life memories of being Nephertiti,
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  Speaker 1: an Egyptian princess who fought with an oxy in a moon.
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  Speaker 1: She is able to channel this past life to fight
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  Speaker 1: a NOx suner moon and save Rick and her son,
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  Speaker 1: which notably a Knacksuna moon does not save Emo tip
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  Speaker 1: she runs.
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  Speaker 2: Away to save her own life.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. And this is all after Eva has been
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  Speaker 1: stabbed and been resurrected, which I guess is a thing
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  Speaker 1: in this franchise, because yeah, now it is the third
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  Speaker 1: one we see her older retired writing romance adventure books,
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  Speaker 1: but clearly missing the action, as is her husband. And
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  Speaker 1: this is when she is played by someone else, Maria Bello.
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  Speaker 1: They decide to take one last undercover mission to Shanghai.
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  Speaker 1: They run into their son and Jonathan, Mummy's ensue. Something
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  Speaker 1: in Evie's blood helped kick off the whole thing, because
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  Speaker 1: she was a good person, and that's what it took,
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  Speaker 1: I suppose. Anyway, she bonds with her son's kind of
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  Speaker 1: assassin girlfriend and they work together to take out the
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  Speaker 1: Chinese Emperor. So that's what we have so far. If
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  Speaker 1: you want more detail, see your episodes on The Mummy,
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  Speaker 1: The Mummy Too, and then Bummy three. Yes, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: but as mentioned, she is a very popular character. She's smart,
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  Speaker 1: she's capable, she's funny, she's very goofy. Rick supports her
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  Speaker 1: and her endeavors. As we talked about in that Mummy episode.
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  Speaker 1: What inspired that was a post about how she was
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  Speaker 1: kind of a feminist heroine and he was a I
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  Speaker 1: don't think ally is the right word, but he was
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  Speaker 1: just supporting her. He was there to support her, and
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  Speaker 1: this comes up. But I found so many articles about this,
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  Speaker 1: so she's the leader, and he is there to support her.
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  Speaker 1: She's very brave. She doesn't give up. She's the one
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  Speaker 1: that's like, no, we Unlicia's mummy, I intend to stop him.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna stop. And she's the whole reason. She
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  Speaker 1: moves the plot along. She is the one that moves
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  Speaker 1: the plot along. She is leading the action. And I
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  Speaker 1: was reading in a couple of articles last night she's
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  Speaker 1: never actually blame. She's never it's never pinned as her fault,
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  Speaker 1: like they don't they don't do the thing they normally do,
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  Speaker 1: where it's like it was you, you were the one.
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  Speaker 1: Instead she it's more in her court where she's like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to fix it, yeh, which I think is great. Also,
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  Speaker 1: she's a librarian, you know, we love we love librarians.
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  Speaker 1: She's great, and she's the one that really saves the day.
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  Speaker 1: She has the support of Rick, of all these other people,
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  Speaker 1: but she is the one who is determined to fix
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  Speaker 1: this and does through her knowledge and bravery and determination.
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  Speaker 1: And I loved her. I loved her. I saw this
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  Speaker 1: movie in the theaters. I must have been quite young.
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  Speaker 1: I was very scared. It scared me, to be honest
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  Speaker 1: with you, But I loved it, like I just and
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  Speaker 1: I loved her, and I thought it was funny, like
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  Speaker 1: it's just kind of a fun adventure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe she does have some great lines, and I
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  Speaker 2: think got something. They really did upgrade her, like involvement
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  Speaker 2: in the second one, Like the first thing you see
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  Speaker 2: is her impants doing an excavation and then kicking a
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  Speaker 2: sake in the number two movie as they reintroduce her
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  Speaker 2: and how she's grown, and I did think it was
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  Speaker 2: kind of interesting, like the way they because they decided
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  Speaker 2: to put her into more actions, so obviously they really
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  Speaker 2: wanted to like upgrade all her like it's like a
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  Speaker 2: video game, like it's her skills kept going up and
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  Speaker 2: so like she was taught to fight a little bit
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  Speaker 2: with Rick. He's like he taught her as we saw
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  Speaker 2: in the first one when he was teaching her to punch.
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  Speaker 2: And then the second one that these memories are of
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  Speaker 2: her being a warrior came all flooding in and she
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  Speaker 2: was a great swordsman and you're like, what the hell's happening,
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  Speaker 2: What the hell's happening.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and she.
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  Speaker 2: Has gotten the love of the Bainbridge people, which I
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  Speaker 2: did say Cambridge the other way in that last episode
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  Speaker 2: that we did, because I was like, is there such
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  Speaker 2: thing as Mainbridge? I don't know why Cambridge was the
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  Speaker 2: was like, this doesn't sound right anyway back to when
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  Speaker 2: I watched the first one again, because I went back
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  Speaker 2: and watched the first one again. But yeah, like she
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  Speaker 2: is a fantastic character who kept evolving the second the
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  Speaker 2: third one is that maybe that's the other part is
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  Speaker 2: like they really did not write her well as a mother,
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  Speaker 2: and I think I could see Rachel why Rachel Vice
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  Speaker 2: was like this is not how I want to portray
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  Speaker 2: ev because yes, like she's she's just hand ringing the
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  Speaker 2: whole time, chastising Rick to be protect her, and she's
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  Speaker 2: just kind of there and I'm like, eh, yeah, that
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  Speaker 2: kind of missed the mark. I really hope they redo
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  Speaker 2: that type of storyline and seeing like she's not just
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  Speaker 2: babying them and which that's what like Rick's accusation was
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  Speaker 2: of her being and I'm like, in that second movie,
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  Speaker 2: she was not babying him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And another thing we didn't get to. Surprisingly, we
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  Speaker 1: had a lot to say about The Mummy three. Another
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  Speaker 1: thing we didn't really touch on was I kind of
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  Speaker 1: thought it was strange. I get what they were trying
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  Speaker 1: to do. I thought it was strange that in the
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  Speaker 1: last acts Evie was with Lynn, who was Alex's romantic interest,
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  Speaker 1: and they kind of maybe I missed something, but it
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  Speaker 1: kind of felt like they missed a lot of action,
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  Speaker 1: like they were just sitting there because they were near
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  Speaker 1: the bell, and I was just kind of like, wait,
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  Speaker 1: the emperors down there. I don't know what what is this?
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  Speaker 2: Why where are they going?
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  Speaker 1: And I don't feel like you're giving me the oh
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  Speaker 1: you get my blessing conversation maybe that they were going for. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was kind of bizarre.
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  Speaker 2: Well maybe because because honestly, I remember thinking that the
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  Speaker 2: death of the Dragon King should have been at the
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  Speaker 2: hands of Lynn or that's what character. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: this is not very satisfying because also she doesn't even
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  Speaker 2: get to see her father. I think it's like a
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  Speaker 2: passing look out of each other. But there's so many
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  Speaker 2: and I get it, again, you have some sort amount
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  Speaker 2: of time, you have a hero movie. You're focusing on
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  Speaker 2: these two dudes and their relationship. But I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot to be lost in this one, because again,
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  Speaker 2: her character is just like, yes, I can fight, but
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  Speaker 2: also I'm here mainly just to chastise.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the two of them for.
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  Speaker 2: Fighting the whole time, Like it's kind of an odd
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  Speaker 2: character because that's I don't think they try to do it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if they did or not. Again, maybe
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  Speaker 2: after maybe it was written after the fact Maria Bello
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  Speaker 2: and they're like, we gotta gotta keep her a minimal
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  Speaker 2: because people are not going to be happy. Yeah, maybe
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  Speaker 2: that's what Maybe that's what they were trying to do,
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  Speaker 2: even though once again Mario Bello has all this training
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  Speaker 2: too become so much bigger. But yeah, so there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of like that could have happened. I hope for
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  Speaker 2: the third one when we see the development of EV
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  Speaker 2: and the fourth one. I'm sorry there was a third
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  Speaker 2: one and people wanted to forget the fourth one that
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  Speaker 2: we if we get to see EV in her original
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  Speaker 2: intelligent like she was able to solve all of the interpretations,
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  Speaker 2: and she was able to get the curses, and she
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  Speaker 2: was able to be the one that really figured out
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  Speaker 2: between the key between the lights, between the research and
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  Speaker 2: then coming back as like I know the legend of
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  Speaker 2: this because I was a part of it, Like I
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  Speaker 2: hope it only grows to that because she is a.
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  Speaker 1: Fantastic character and her class are amazing.
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  Speaker 2: I love when people cosplay her.
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  Speaker 1: Love it, Yes I do too, people do it at
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  Speaker 1: Dragon Con. It always makes me happy. Good it looks
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  Speaker 1: oh good, But yeah, I agree, And I also love that.
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  Speaker 1: Not that I don't think we should make a big
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  Speaker 1: deal of these things, but I love that. When I
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  Speaker 1: was a kid, it didn't seem like a big deal
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  Speaker 1: that she was the leader or she was the one
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  Speaker 1: in charge. It was just like, yeah, that's that's who
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  Speaker 1: she is, right, that's how it is. And I was like, yep,
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  Speaker 1: makes sense. So I loved it. I still love it
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  Speaker 1: and interested to see what happens if they do make
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  Speaker 1: this fourth one. Well listeners, if you have any thoughts
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