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- Lucas: In February of 2020, Bob Iger stepped down as CEO of Disney. He handed the keys to Bob Chapek, a longtime theme-park executive, and Iger said he was retiring for real this time. Luna: Retirement lasted about thirty-three months. Lucas: Thirty-three months, yeah. By November 2022, the board was asking Iger to come back. And here's the specific number that sticks with me: Iger's second term was announced on November 20, 2022. From that day to the end of 2023 — roughly 406 days — he announced a sweeping restructuring, cut $5.5 billion in costs, and pushed Disney+ toward profitability. That is an astonishingly fast course correction for a company of that size. Luna: It is fast. But it also tells you how deep the trouble was. Chapek's tenure wasn't a disaster on every metric — Disney+ had blown past subscriber targets — but there was a creeping sense that the company had lost its creative compass. Lucas: If these conversations have moved your work forward in some small way, honestly, if today was worth a coffee to you, you can find that link — it's at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. Luna: Yeah. And it genuinely makes a difference. Keeps this show ad-free and focused. Lucas: Alright — back to the story. So why did the board bring Iger back? The simplest answer is that Chapek had alienated the creative talent. Iger had spent decades cultivating relationships with directors like James Cameron, Kevin Feige at Marvel, Kathleen Kennedy at Lucasfilm. Chapek, by contrast, was an operations guy. He'd run parks and consumer products. He didn't have the same relationships, and in a business where a single movie can swing quarterly earnings by hundreds of millions, that's a real vulnerability. Luna: And it wasn't just relationships. Chapek made a few very public missteps. The Scarlett Johansson lawsuit over Black Widow's streaming release was a huge distraction. Then there was the political fight in Florida over the so-called Don't Say Gay bill. Disney got dragged into a culture war it didn't need to be in. Lucas: Right. And Iger was publicly silent during those controversies because he wasn't in the role. But the board knew that if they brought him back, the narrative would shift instantly. Iger had the credibility to calm things down. And he did. Within weeks of returning, he met with Florida's governor, de-escalated the public fight, and restructured the entire company into three business segments: Entertainment, Sports, and Experiences. Luna: That restructuring was huge. The old structure had put distribution and content creation in separate silos. Iger merged them again. He gave creative leaders more control over how their content reaches audiences. Lucas: And he made a brutal cost-cutting move. In February 2023, Disney announced seven thousand layoffs — about three percent of its global workforce. The goal was $5.5 billion in savings. And here's the thing — investors loved it. The stock jumped nine percent on the announcement. The Street was hungry for discipline after the spending spree of the streaming wars. Luna: But I think the most interesting part of Iger's return is what it says about succession planning. Iger had spent years grooming Chapek. He'd handpicked him. And it still failed. Lucas: Yeah. That's the part that keeps board members up at night. Iger was famous for not having a clear succession plan — he'd joked about it publicly, said he wasn't going anywhere. When he finally did pick Chapek, the process was rushed. The board had only a few months to vet him before the pandemic hit. And then Disney+ launched, the world changed, and Chapek was suddenly running a media company in crisis mode. Luna: So what should boards learn from this? If Iger — who is widely considered one of the best media CEOs of his generation — couldn't execute a smooth succession, what hope do the rest have? Lucas: I think the lesson is that succession isn't a one-time event. It's a continuous process. You need to expose potential successors to different parts of the business years in advance. Chapek had spent his whole career in parks and consumer products. He didn't have deep experience in film, television, or streaming. When the job changed — when streaming became the existential priority — he was learning on the job, and the board didn't give him enough support. Luna: And Iger's return also raises a governance question: should a board ever ask a retired CEO to come back? Some investors think it's a sign of failure. Others argue it's the pragmatic move. Lucas: There's actually a name for this in corporate finance — it's called a boomerang CEO. Studies show that companies that rehire a former CEO tend to underperform in the long run. But those studies look at average outcomes. Iger is not an average CEO. He had a twenty-two-year track record of creating shareholder value. The board was betting that the specific person mattered more than the general pattern. Luna: And so far, that bet has paid off. Disney's stock recovered from its 2022 lows. Disney+ hit profitability earlier than forecast. The creative pipeline is strong — Avatar, Deadpool, Inside Out sequels. Lucas: But the long-term question remains open. Iger is seventy-four years old. He's said he'll leave in 2026. The board is now running a much more rigorous search for his successor. They've brought in independent directors with succession expertise. They're vetting internal and external candidates. The pressure is on to get it right this time. Luna: So who are the internal candidates? We've heard names like Dana Walden, who runs the entertainment division, and Josh D'Amaro, who runs the parks. Both have been given broader responsibilities under Iger's second term. Lucas: Walden is interesting because she comes from television. She was at Fox before Disney acquired it. She's known for strong relationships with talent. D'Amaro is more operations-focused, like Chapek was. The board will have to decide whether they want a creative leader or an operator. And they'll need to make that call early enough to give the successor a real runway. Luna: There's also the possibility that Disney goes outside. I mean, Apple has been rumored as a potential acquirer for years. Could Disney hire a tech CEO? Lucas: It's possible, but I think it's unlikely. Disney's culture is deeply creative. A tech CEO who doesn't understand the rhythms of film production or theme-park operations would face the same problem Chapek did. The board seems to have learned that lesson. Luna: Alright, so let's zoom out. Iger's return gives us a case study in how to handle a leadership crisis. What are the specific tactics he used that other CEOs could borrow? Lucas: Number one: move fast on the first 100 days. Iger didn't do a listening tour. He announced a structural change within weeks. That signaled decisiveness. Number two: communicate directly with investors and employees. He held town halls, gave media interviews, laid out a clear thesis. Number three: cut costs early. The layoffs and restructuring were painful but they cleared the decks. Luna: And number four: re-center the creative culture. He brought back the old studio system, gave filmmakers more autonomy. That's harder to quantify than cost cuts, but it's probably the most important move. Lucas: Yeah. And I'd add a fifth: he admitted the mistake. Not explicitly — he never said 'I chose the wrong successor' — but by returning, he implicitly acknowledged that the board had made a misstep. That honesty, even if it's unspoken, builds trust. Luna: It's a remarkable second act. But it also leaves Disney in a precarious position. They're still dependent on one person — Iger — to hold the narrative together. The real test will come when he leaves for good. Lucas: That is the test. And it's a test that every company with a charismatic founder or longtime CEO eventually faces. Can you build an institution that outlasts the individual? Disney has done it before — Walt himself died in 1966, and the company survived. But the margin for error is thin. Luna: Especially now, when the media landscape is fragmenting faster than ever. Linear TV is dying. Streaming is consolidating. Theaters are still recovering from the pandemic. Disney needs a leader who can navigate all of that at once. Lucas: And that leader, whoever it is, will inherit a company that Iger has essentially reset twice. The question is whether the second reset will hold. For now, the story of Iger's return is a lesson in the power of experience and the cost of complacency in succession planning. Luna: It's a good reminder that even the best-prepared CEOs can get succession wrong. And that sometimes, the only fix is to bring the old playbook back out. Lucas: Alright — that's the CEO Diary for this episode. We'll be back on Thursday with a look at a very different kind of turnaround story.