Latest / Foul Territory / NL 1st half grades + Spencer Schwellenbach on MLB pitching evolution

Transcript

NL 1st half grades + Spencer Schwellenbach on MLB pitching evolution · Foul Territory

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Pitchers are thrown harder than ever. They're chasing strikeouts, so
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: I think that with how the game is going, we
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: might not be seeing many complete games.
• 0:14
  Speaker 2: First half grades, we're at the mid season mark. Let's
• 0:18
  Speaker 2: cover the National League. We did the American League already,
• 0:21
  Speaker 2: and if you want to check that out, you know
• 0:23
  Speaker 2: where to find it on our YouTube channel. But for
• 0:26
  Speaker 2: the National league grades, we'll go from the a's down
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: to the f's. So let's start with who received an A.
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: And what I want you guys to do is just
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: either give some praise or disagree, agree whatever you want.
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: Slice through these grades, which we're put together by CBS
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: Sports in an article. The Cubs get an A, the
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: Dodgers get an A, the Brewers get an A, the
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: Phillies grab an A, the San Francisco Giants get an A.
• 0:52
  Speaker 2: They were very very gracious with their a's. And then
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: there's one ANUS to the New York Mets. Anything you
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: definitely like or don't like there, I mean, I got.
• 1:01
  Speaker 3: The standings up in front of me that I'm looking
• 1:02
  Speaker 3: at too. Just to kind of go off with some
• 1:06
  Speaker 3: like that, that kind of seems pretty pretty straight.
• 1:10
  Speaker 4: Really, Like Milwaukee gets an A.
• 1:13
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 1:14
  Speaker 4: I mean that's good, but like what.
• 1:18
  Speaker 3: I might move the Mets up to a straight A.
• 1:22
  Speaker 3: They got the ten agree with that degrees? There should
• 1:26
  Speaker 3: be no minus on that one. I think Milwaukee, maybe
• 1:30
  Speaker 3: you switch those, maybe you get the minus on the
• 1:31
  Speaker 3: Milwaukee side.
• 1:32
  Speaker 2: Then yeah, yeah, Like I thought Milwaukee was gonna be good,
• 1:39
  Speaker 2: and they are good, but they're not blowing the National
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: League Central away. And I know the Cubs obviously have
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: been playing ball, so for me put them more in
• 1:49
  Speaker 2: the B range. I know your boy Murph, your old coach,
• 1:52
  Speaker 2: Pat Murphy, would put them in the B range. He's
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: been a little grumpier with the boys this year. He's
• 1:56
  Speaker 2: expecting more after his first year went so swimmingly. Maybe
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: I'm being hard on the Brewers. I thought I picked
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: the Brewers to win the division. Obviously, the Cubs have
• 2:04
  Speaker 2: been a jugger and I didn't see Pete crow Armstrong coming.
• 2:07
  Speaker 2: I thought those two would be going at it for
• 2:09
  Speaker 2: the division. So I just I think for the Brewers,
• 2:13
  Speaker 2: based on what they've done for years, roster didn't change
• 2:15
  Speaker 2: that much. That's a bee for me in terms of
• 2:18
  Speaker 2: their first half.
• 2:20
  Speaker 6: I don't hate it, Okay, And then.
• 2:24
  Speaker 4: You want to move to the Bees.
• 2:26
  Speaker 5: I mean San Diego and San Franz are not that
• 2:28
  Speaker 5: too far apart, Like I don't know, I know, I felt.
• 2:30
  Speaker 4: Like, but this has to do with expectations.
• 2:32
  Speaker 2: So these grades are given out based on what they
• 2:34
  Speaker 2: thought teams were going to do right and what public
• 2:36
  Speaker 2: perception was, and then how it performed for people that
• 2:40
  Speaker 2: they're like, oh, I didn't. A lot of people had
• 2:41
  Speaker 2: the Giants as the fourth best team in the National
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: League West, and they've certainly exceeded expectations. Got to give
• 2:47
  Speaker 2: the front office credit for devers. So here's the Bees,
• 2:50
  Speaker 2: the Padres got to be the Red's got to be minus,
• 2:53
  Speaker 2: and the Saint Louis Cardinals get to be plus.
• 2:56
  Speaker 5: See.
• 2:56
  Speaker 2: Actually, for me, you would move the Reds up.
• 3:02
  Speaker 5: I would move the Reds down.
• 3:03
  Speaker 4: I would move them down.
• 3:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 3:06
  Speaker 3: Maybe, I guess I just had lower expectations off the
• 3:09
  Speaker 3: jump for them.
• 3:10
  Speaker 6: That could be it.
• 3:11
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, that's one hundred percent. If it was expectations
• 3:13
  Speaker 5: for the Reds. A lot of people are choosing them
• 3:15
  Speaker 5: to win the division. They're what six, I got it
• 3:17
  Speaker 5: right here, there's six and.
• 3:18
  Speaker 4: A half and they're like five hundred, right, Yeah, they're
• 3:22
  Speaker 4: two and.
• 3:23
  Speaker 5: A half out of the wild Card. They're forty two
• 3:24
  Speaker 5: and thirty nine. I yeah, I would say plus.
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going C for the Reds. How about for
• 3:34
  Speaker 2: me the Cardinals getting a B plus C. I think
• 3:38
  Speaker 2: that's a team that deserved to be in the A's
• 3:40
  Speaker 2: because most people thought the Cardinals were gonna suck this year,
• 3:43
  Speaker 2: and they do not suck.
• 3:46
  Speaker 5: You're right, They're only one game out of the Wildcard too, So.
• 3:49
  Speaker 2: If we're giving San Francisco an a right, there's a
• 3:51
  Speaker 2: little bit of gracious grading here. The Cardinals were supposed
• 3:55
  Speaker 2: to be worse than the Giants according to many.
• 3:58
  Speaker 4: The Cardinals are.
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: In the thick of it, so I know they took
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: a step back since their hot start, but they're still
• 4:03
  Speaker 2: in the thick of a wild card race. I would
• 4:05
  Speaker 2: throw an A their way.
• 4:07
  Speaker 3: I feel like this is the kind of Cardinals team
• 4:09
  Speaker 3: they were expecting out of them last year. That's why
• 4:10
  Speaker 3: I was such a letdown last year for them.
• 4:14
  Speaker 2: Right, and then they keep the same roster, they roll
• 4:16
  Speaker 2: it out again this year and it's much better. I mean, obviously,
• 4:19
  Speaker 2: you know when you're plugging in computer models, and last
• 4:22
  Speaker 2: year didn't go well. They dinged them and brought them
• 4:25
  Speaker 2: down a notch. But there's guys who took another step forward.
• 4:29
  Speaker 2: So there's your list on the a's and the b's,
• 4:32
  Speaker 2: and let's start to get to the crap. So here's
• 4:36
  Speaker 2: here's your c's, okay, and one team for me stands
• 4:39
  Speaker 2: out in this greer.
• 4:42
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 4:42
  Speaker 2: So the Diamondbacks get a C minus, the Nationals get
• 4:46
  Speaker 2: a C minus, the Marlins get a C minus.
• 4:50
  Speaker 5: They all should be lower.
• 4:51
  Speaker 4: They all should be lower.
• 4:52
  Speaker 2: The Backs are in the wildcard race and they don't
• 4:56
  Speaker 2: have half their pitching staff anymore.
• 4:58
  Speaker 5: The Diamondbacks are three games out but a wildcard. I
• 5:01
  Speaker 5: don't think they're making it. I don't think I know,
• 5:03
  Speaker 5: But we're not talking about expectations. The expectations. They should
• 5:07
  Speaker 5: be one of the top right in that division. You're right,
• 5:10
  Speaker 5: I would give them. I would give the Nationals struggle bus,
• 5:13
  Speaker 5: Miami struggle bus. I see them all as a D.
• 5:16
  Speaker 2: But you you thought the Marlins were going to be bad,
• 5:18
  Speaker 2: and they're bad, but they're not as bad. So maybe
• 5:21
  Speaker 2: that that I mean, that's how they explain they're grading.
• 5:23
  Speaker 5: They're twelve and a half out of a wildcard, eleven
• 5:27
  Speaker 5: games under five no wildcard, no they are excuse me,
• 5:32
  Speaker 5: they are nine and a half pretty much the same.
• 5:34
  Speaker 2: Right, so to me that I mean you C minus.
• 5:37
  Speaker 2: I can see the Nationals were supposed to be a
• 5:40
  Speaker 2: little bit better than this and they're in a similar spot.
• 5:42
  Speaker 5: No, yeah, no, they're they're right, they're right there too.
• 5:45
  Speaker 5: The Nationals are eleven and a half games out, so
• 5:47
  Speaker 5: they're actually behind that.
• 5:49
  Speaker 4: That's a D for me.
• 5:50
  Speaker 5: All three D.
• 5:52
  Speaker 3: This is off expectations.
• 5:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, like what you thought of these teams going into
• 5:57
  Speaker 2: the season, Like, I'll give you the perfect example.
• 6:00
  Speaker 4: Right, right to be a sports stop.
• 6:01
  Speaker 2: But Kip, yesterday when we did the A L, the
• 6:04
  Speaker 2: White Sox got like a B or a B minus
• 6:06
  Speaker 2: because they were, like we thought you get rid of Crochet.
• 6:09
  Speaker 2: They might be even worse and they're bad, but they're
• 6:12
  Speaker 2: not the worst team ever.
• 6:13
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm gonna say. Where it's like it's Colorado
• 6:15
  Speaker 3: and Pittsburgh like seized because they're exactly where we thought
• 6:18
  Speaker 3: they might be. Kind of.
• 6:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, that makes sense.
• 6:23
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, okay, so so do you have any problems though? Arizona, Washington,
• 6:29
  Speaker 2: Miami And then I'll get to the three f's here.
• 6:32
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm Todd a little bit. I think Arizona could
• 6:35
  Speaker 3: be almost indeed, just because you have such high hopes
• 6:37
  Speaker 3: coming off as a World Series last.
• 6:39
  Speaker 4: Year two years ago.
• 6:40
  Speaker 2: But yees, I mean last year though eighty nine wins
• 6:45
  Speaker 2: the actually yeah, yeah, they had Corbyn Burns, but here's.
• 6:48
  Speaker 5: The the ian tying the Diamondbacks.
• 6:51
  Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just saying. I mean, I guess factor
• 6:56
  Speaker 4: I had him going, yeah, I'm screwed.
• 6:58
  Speaker 2: But Burns get for Justin Martinez lafter the year. I mean,
• 7:02
  Speaker 2: they've lost half their staff, but you know, it's fair
• 7:05
  Speaker 2: like Gallon is not Gallon for the first half of
• 7:08
  Speaker 2: the season, so there's some of that going on with
• 7:10
  Speaker 2: the pitching staff. Ftfan, did you know that huel has
• 7:14
  Speaker 2: sold over five hundred million meals around the world and
• 7:18
  Speaker 2: now it is your turn to try it?
• 7:21
  Speaker 5: All right?
• 7:22
  Speaker 7: I drink it Thrik of Scott, so I can discuss
• 7:24
  Speaker 7: huele on how I love it. I had some for
• 7:26
  Speaker 7: breakfast this morning. I like to drink it post workout
• 7:28
  Speaker 7: because of the protein included in it. It always tastes delicious,
• 7:32
  Speaker 7: whether it's strawberry, banana, chocolate, vanilla, whatever the flavor is,
• 7:35
  Speaker 7: it tastes like a dessert.
• 7:36
  Speaker 3: Honestly, it should not taste as good as it does.
• 7:38
  Speaker 4: I agree.
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: New customers get fifteen percent off plus a free gift
• 7:44
  Speaker 2: at Heuel dot com when you use the FT code
• 7:47
  Speaker 2: that is foul foul at huel dot com slash foul.
• 7:51
  Speaker 2: Don't miss out. Try Huel today for a perfectly balanced meal.
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: If you miss a meal, if you're looking for a
• 7:57
  Speaker 2: little protein boost. You just saw me drink the black addition.
• 8:00
  Speaker 2: Ready to drink. There's the vanilla flavor. I love what
• 8:04
  Speaker 2: the chocolate brings to the table. It's really damn good,
• 8:07
  Speaker 2: So give it a shot. FT fan fifteen percent off
• 8:10
  Speaker 2: plus a free gift for new customers with the code foul.
• 8:13
  Speaker 4: All right, So here's your.
• 8:14
  Speaker 5: F's chef employed with the Mets.
• 8:17
  Speaker 4: And that might happen. He loves that trade might happen.
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: Uh, here's your f's ready Atlanta, Colorado, Pittsburgh. So kipt
• 8:27
  Speaker 2: for me, like Pittsburgh getting an F. I thought they
• 8:30
  Speaker 2: were gonna suck, and they suck.
• 8:32
  Speaker 3: That's what that's my case. That's what I'm saying.
• 8:34
  Speaker 5: I get.
• 8:35
  Speaker 3: I get Atlanta because you had such lofty expectations. Why
• 8:37
  Speaker 3: they're done.
• 8:38
  Speaker 5: You have Colorado and A because they're supposed to be bad.
• 8:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but they're gonna be They might be the worst
• 8:44
  Speaker 4: team ever.
• 8:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but they didn't expect to do good either, so
• 8:47
  Speaker 5: they my expectations of them has do bad. So they
• 8:49
  Speaker 5: should get an eight plus. They should be the highest one,
• 8:53
  Speaker 5: you know, if we're going by that.
• 8:54
  Speaker 2: But that's right, they're living up to expectations. They're exceeding
• 8:58
  Speaker 2: expectations in terms of how bad they are.
• 9:01
  Speaker 5: You've been one hundred and one?
• 9:02
  Speaker 4: Yes, what about the other two?
• 9:05
  Speaker 5: Atlanta F because where they're supposed to be and Pittsburgh
• 9:09
  Speaker 5: should be in the middle of the packs C minus. Yeah.
• 9:12
  Speaker 2: See, there you go. That's a big, great difference. Though
• 9:14
  Speaker 2: they're getting an F. I was gonna say either a
• 9:17
  Speaker 2: D or nobody's I mean not nobody, but most people
• 9:20
  Speaker 2: aren't expected. Paul Skeins doesn't pitch every day, No, he
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: does not.
• 9:25
  Speaker 3: And yeah, you just need a team to try every
• 9:28
  Speaker 3: day too, and they don't even have that.
• 9:30
  Speaker 6: It looks like.
• 9:32
  Speaker 3: I could be singling out with a person, but you
• 9:34
  Speaker 3: guys know what I'm talking about. But it's just that
• 9:36
  Speaker 3: that's a that's just an organization that needs a complete makeover.
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: How would you feel if you've been on a team,
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: Kip for five six years that has not been competitive
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: the entire time period, doesn't it start to like become
• 9:49
  Speaker 2: the norm where you're showing up to work in a
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: different way if that makes sense. Obviously you want you're
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: playing for your stats and for your contract and for
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: your quote for your team. But it's not sufficient roster.
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: It's been like that for a long time now, and
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: there's no buying from the front office.
• 10:05
  Speaker 3: You're gonna start to want out of that organization. But
• 10:08
  Speaker 3: even before then, you're gonna want to like put your
• 10:10
  Speaker 3: foot down and be like enough is enough? Can we
• 10:12
  Speaker 3: do something about this? As the people who are here
• 10:15
  Speaker 3: like this isn't good enough? Can someone like you got
• 10:18
  Speaker 3: to step up and just be like this is not
• 10:19
  Speaker 3: good enough guys and go from there. But yeah, it's
• 10:23
  Speaker 3: all all roads and to you want to know that organization.
• 10:25
  Speaker 3: If you don't see change for five six years, will
• 10:27
  Speaker 3: you've been there.
• 10:29
  Speaker 5: And there's two things that you can muster up and
• 10:31
  Speaker 5: do well. One one, you can muster up you can
• 10:33
  Speaker 5: look yourself in the mirror and say, hey, I got
• 10:35
  Speaker 5: to play for myself here. Every once in a while,
• 10:37
  Speaker 5: I gotta come out and try and do my best,
• 10:40
  Speaker 5: not worry about what everybody else is doing or can't
• 10:43
  Speaker 5: wait till football season comes, fantasy football the off season.
• 10:46
  Speaker 5: Like there's two jurstic things you can do. You know,
• 10:50
  Speaker 5: how long do you want to play this game for?
• 10:52
  Speaker 5: Because I'll just find somebody else if you're not going
• 10:54
  Speaker 5: to push it to the envelope and get after you know,
• 10:56
  Speaker 5: whether it's a ground ball, pop fly, you know, all
• 10:59
  Speaker 5: little things. Just just give effort. You know, it doesn't
• 11:02
  Speaker 5: mean you got to go one hundred percent, but just
• 11:03
  Speaker 5: give some effort.
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, trying to see any there's your your finalist of
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: grades here and trying to see if we've got anybody
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: on here that that heavily disagrees or agrees. Boo in
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: the chat said DBAC should be second. Yeah, D plus
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: they said, ISN'TD plus not an actual grade? Isn't it
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: just D n F?
• 11:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: That's is that how it works?
• 11:29
  Speaker 5: I don't know, Yeah, I think it is.
• 11:31
  Speaker 6: No students, Like Michael.
• 11:34
  Speaker 5: Came back, I said, come on, frase, Ben Rice says
• 11:36
  Speaker 5: no business in the all. That's a different time, John, Michael,
• 11:38
  Speaker 5: you talk a lot of Yankees on there. Brother, I
• 11:41
  Speaker 5: love you, but I have to strongly disagree with you.
• 11:43
  Speaker 5: He needs either to be a reserve for sure. I
• 11:47
  Speaker 5: don't have all the numbers in front of me, but
• 11:49
  Speaker 5: i've I've seen with my eye.
• 11:51
  Speaker 4: Here's Vince said cards seven games over five hundred elite.
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: No but deaf uh not the twenty twenty three cards
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: or twenty four is probably what he means. So yeah,
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: I'm with you there. I think I think they deserve
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: an A. I'm big on that one, all right. So
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: if you disagree with anything, or you agree with anything
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: from either what CBS put out or what we put
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: out there, let us know. Thank you very much. And
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: apparently oh D plus n D minus our grades F
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: minus never not quite Okay, great, there're three best students
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: here on a Friday. Hey, we've got Spencer schwellenback joining
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: us from the Braves right now. I think second time.
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: I think joined us last year on ft SUS. Spencer's back. Spencer,
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: Great to see you. How's your sophomore season going, Man.
• 12:39
  Speaker 6: It's going good. Thanks for having me on guys.
• 12:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, of course.
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: Now I have to start here just because we're fresh
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: off this series and I'm from the area. So as
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: Todd father, did you know that you're the nicest, most
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: hated player for Mets fans.
• 12:56
  Speaker 6: I did not know that.
• 12:57
  Speaker 4: You know why though? Yeah, tell everyone what do you got?
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: What do you got on the Mets that you just
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: absolutely carve him up?
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: And I don't know, it's like like pitching against good
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: teams and like like pitching against good players. So it's
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: fun pitching against that team.
• 13:21
  Speaker 5: I want to ask, Yeah, that's funny. You know you
• 13:24
  Speaker 5: think in New York queens like you are the nice
• 13:27
  Speaker 5: one of the nicer guys. You know, you don't talk smack,
• 13:29
  Speaker 5: You just get after you've been having a really good season.
• 13:31
  Speaker 5: What do you what do you attest that too? Is
• 13:34
  Speaker 5: there some is there like a mentor there? You know
• 13:36
  Speaker 5: guys that you know that are taking you by the wings,
• 13:39
  Speaker 5: Like who's a guy right now that you talk to
• 13:41
  Speaker 5: after a game before a game and try and get
• 13:43
  Speaker 5: either that mental approach ready or that grind like all right,
• 13:46
  Speaker 5: this is what I need to do. Let's let's have
• 13:47
  Speaker 5: a chat.
• 13:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean, first guy that comes to mind is
• 13:51
  Speaker 6: Chris Sale.
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: I mean he's he's done it for a long time
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: at a really high level, and you know, he's been
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: through a lot of injuries.
• 13:58
  Speaker 6: He's he said, a lot of success.
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: And he's the guy that I go to with any questions,
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: with any concerns. And then Spencer Strider has been a
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: huge help having him back this year, just watching bullpens
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: and picking his brain on certain things.
• 14:16
  Speaker 6: And you know it, he.
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: Knows a lot about the game, a lot about pitch design,
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: pitch grips, you know how it should look. So just
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: kind of leaning on those guys and trusting in the
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: coaches and the catchers, and just trusting to myself as well.
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: Did you tell Sale that it's okay to have just
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: a little bit meat on those bones that might protect
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: you when you lay out for a ball. Maybe an
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: ounce of fat might give you a little cushions.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't pull fat. I think he might be starting. Yeah,
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: he's scared he's gonna lose the Gold Glove this year,
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: so he's trying to make up for it by diving
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: foot balls.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: When he's so he's on the eel. Now, who have
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: you thought, Because you've got some great pitchers to pick from,
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: and you kind of just hint it on it a
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: little bit. So who have you been learning the most from?
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: Who have you been taking the most from on how
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: to approach pitching this year and your second year round. Yeah,
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: so just leaning on Rick Kranitz pitching coach.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: He's you know, old school, but there's a lot to
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: learn with that.
• 15:25
  Speaker 6: You know, I grew up in today's game.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: You have a lot of a lot of metrics and
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: track man data, and sometimes you kind of overlook what
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: it's like to actually pitch. And he's one of the
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: best in the game at at understanding swings, understanding certain counts, hitters,
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: and he's he's helped me a lot with that, and
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: then going on with other pitchers like Pierce Johnson's got
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: one of the best curveballs I've ever seen, just talking
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: to him about different release points and Grant Holmes, he's
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: he's a when you look at his slider, his curveball
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: he's got. He spins the ball with the best of
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: them as well. So when I'm when I'm in going
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: wrong with the slider, when the slider's not moving right,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: those are some of the guys that you know I
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: talked to with that.
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: I want to bring up a little bit. Ten games
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: out of the NL East. You know it wasn't the start.
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: You guys wanted. Ronald Kuna has been absolutely dominant. You
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: see this team making a run here, or do you
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: see this team you know, trade deadline coming up? Do
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: you hear anything about what's going on with the Braves
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: you think a trader too? Or how you feeling about
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: the squad right now?
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: I mean, we trust in each and every one of us.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: We know that we got a team that can get
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: it done and it's just just a matter of time.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Spencer, the All Star Games coming up, obviously it's in Atlanta,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: and speaking of Akunya, he's going to be doing the
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: derby there, which is cool. I know most guys are
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: not are going to be folks on the season, but
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: this is your sophomore season. How special would it be
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: to get there because you know, probably for the rest
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: of your career and I'm gonna have another Atlanta All
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Star hosting situation like this.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it would definitely be special, and it
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: being in Atlanta, I'd be a really good one to
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: be in. But like you said, I mean, we got
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of games left before the All Star break
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: and we're trying to win some games, get back to
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: five hundred, to get a set up to have a
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: good second half.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: I want to switch gears here just for a second.
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: Saw you from Saginaw, Michigan. Was hockey ever something big
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: for you out there? Because I know in that Midwest
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: area there's some good hockey out there. Talk to me
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: a little about if not, what are some activities you
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: like doing besides that?
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: So I never competitively played hockey, but every winner, the
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: pond would freeze, and me and all my friends would
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: go out with the two nets and ten of us
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: would go play on the frozen pond.
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: So that was a lot of fun.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: But both my parents were basketball players, so that was
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: kind of during the same season, so I never got
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: to play hockey. But other than that, love every sport
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: pick a ball, tennis, golf, basketball, football, soccer, you know,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: literally anything that it has a ball or a puck
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: or whatever.
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: Like playing.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Well, if you're a normal human, you can't speak English
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: to your pup. But what you can do to understand
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: what they love, which is Spontan tango on kibble, is
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: to see how they react when you put the unkibble
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: in the bowl. And my pup, pinal Lope, loves it.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: So does Bella.
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: Well, Bella speaks Spanish, so she says, Maybeen, I love
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: this stuff.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: She says, Wow, Dad, thanks for creating a custom plan
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: based on my age, weight, breed, and activity level.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: You nailed it.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: And also it's made with one hundred percent whole fresh
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: ingredients like real USDA meats, fruits and veggies. But it's
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: forty percent less expensive than frozen food. So upgrade your
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: pets bowl with spotan Tango unkibble and for a limited time,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: go to spotantango dot com slash foul and use code
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: foul for fifty percent off your first order. That's spotantango
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: dot com slash foul, code foul to get fifty percent
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: off your first order. Hey, so let me let me
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: take it back to the mound here for a moment.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: So you had your first complete game of your career,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: that was what three weeks ago, June eleventh. Where do
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: you think we're at as you're a young pitcher here
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: with the sport, trying to let guys let it eat
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: a little bit more again with innings pitch and I
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: think a good example that we've been using in the
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: past week is a team in the other league in
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: the AL, the Rays. We're thriving right now, and they
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: were the team kind of leading the charge at one
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: point with openers, bullpen games, et cetera. Now they're top
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: three in baseball and innings pitched from their starters. One
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: other thing I wanted to throw out there is we
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: had schemes against Misraska the other day. Everyone's watching the
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: play sells out. So what can we do to highlight
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: the starter more and also from a younger level, right
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: or a lower level, allow starters to let it eat
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: so they can do that up in the big leagues.
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good question.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: It's nice seeing starting pitchers go deep into games. And
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: you know, with with how the game has kind of changed,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: we're chasing strikeouts or we're chasing swing and miss, so
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: you see less of the you know, seven eight, nine
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: inning games. So but for me, I just like to
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I try to go fifteen innings or less per inning.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: It's kind of what the goal was in the minor
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: leagues with the Braves, like we want to be fifteen
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: pitches or less and that'll allow you to go deeper
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: into games. And listen, I mean there's the pitchers are
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: throwing harder than ever. They're you know, they're chasing strikeouts.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: So I think that with how the game is going,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: we might not be seeing many complete games, but it's
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: nice to.
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: It's nice to definitely go deep into games.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: How did the Braves work it with you when you
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: were in the minors, Because the Braves have done a
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: nice job of getting some starting pitchers developed that weren't
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: always the most highly touted, right, and then all of
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: a sudden they come up to the bigs and I'm like,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: this guy's ready to go and he can pitch deep
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: into outings. They've done a better job than I would
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: say most teams on that front. So what was it
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: like when you were talking to them in terms of
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: the balance of you know, not overdoing it, but also
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: for them to let you see how it is to
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: work into a sixth seventh inning. I doubt you went
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: into an eighth in the miners. Did they let you
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: go that deep?
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: No?
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: No?
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: So yeah, So my first year in twenty twenty three,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I was coming off of Tommy John, so it was
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: like a lot of twenty five pitch outings and then
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: thirty pitch outings.
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: You know, So it's they did it the right way
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: with building me up.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if I got into the seventh
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: inning that first year at all if they only went six,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: But then the second year in twenty twenty four, I
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: threw maybe into the seventh on once or twice.
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: But they do a really good job with.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Monitoring guys' arms, and I think they have a pretty
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: strict pitch count of around eighty five pitches, and they
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: want to see guys that you know, can maintain their
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: ve low and command deep in games, and then they'll
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: let you earn it after that.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Besides your pitch count, then from the difference between year
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: one and year two, what else? What other differences can
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: you talk about that you've noticed in the game, Because
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: usually it's you come up, you might have success hitters
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: adjust to you, then you adjust back, So this game
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: will always go back and forth.
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: A little bit.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: That's the cat and this game. But what are some
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: of the other big adjustments or big differences you've seen
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: now between year and one and year two.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so doing scoutering report stuff, you've got to understand
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: that the teams are also doing a scattering report against you.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: But then you also want to pitch to your strengths.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: So it's it's kind of like you said, a cat
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: and mouse game where you know it's it's in year two,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: I've understood to read swings a little bit better. Last
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: year it was just like, Okay, this pitch is supposed
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: to work to this guy, and if it doesn't work, now,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: now what are you going to do?
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: You know, so.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Understanding swings, understanding different locations and why they work, and
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: also doing scattering reports and looking at not only hot
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: in cold zones, but you know, seeing what the swing
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: looks like a guy's got a flat swing, or if
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: a guy's you know, trying to lift the ball.
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: Just stuff like that.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Now, if you have a pitch that you think is
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: going to work against a specific guy and you go
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: to it and he nails it, you're like, you got
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: him to chase. Do you how often do you immediately
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: go right back to that or do you know? Then
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: you're like, okay, I know I've got this in my arsenal.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: I might save it for till two strikes or that
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: this works against him and I you can then pick
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: and choose when you get it, or it's like, hey,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: let's go with this one. It works, we're gonna keep
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: going until it doesn't.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's a there's a time and place
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: for to repeat the pitch, depending if it's you know,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: first at bat, second at bat, third at that you
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: know you got you gotta save some stuff for you know,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: the third time through the lineup. So just understanding, you know,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: even if there's guys on base too, it's also.
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: A different scenario there.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: So I mean, I've got six pitches, so it gives
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: me a.
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: Gives me more to work with too, that doesn't.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, and on on that topic, I mean, it
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: seems like guys are able to pick up pitches quicker nowadays.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: I'm sure some of that has to do with the
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: tech and the advancement on the coaching front. How have
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: you noticed that, you know, whether it's in the miners
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: and now up in the bigs and guys that you
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: pitch around, where all of a sudden everyone's shown up
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: to spring training with a new pitch and it's not
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: just I mean, obviously sometimes they're toying with it, but
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: it's it's often actually converting into being used in the
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: regular season. Right Like for me, I feel like I
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: have to do a lot more homework going into a
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: season as a broadcaster, being like, okay, what are all
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: of his pitches now in his pitch usage where you know,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: maybe go fifteen years back and it's like, oh, I
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: know what he throws.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: It's the same thing his entire career.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think with all the data that we have,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: if you see someone spinning their fastball at a certain
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: like on a certain access, you know that they can
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: throw a seam shifted sinker or they can throw a
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: cutter like. So it's like adding these pitches is easier
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: than it sounds because you're you're ultimately just throwing the
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: pitch the same way but with a different grip. And
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: there's there's so many really intelligent people that that know
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: a lot about the game, a lot about grips, release points,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: and you know, I think that guys are are we're
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: kind of working harder than ever in that aspect as well.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Hey, Spencer, who on the braves should we be talking
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: more about? Obviously we know a lot of the names
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: that are signed up for lifetime deals essentially, but who else?
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Who else should we be talking about this year that
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: you know we're not talking enough about on a national level.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Drake Baldwin should be an All Star.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: He doesn't get enough credit. I think he's he came
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: into the year. Uh, he started off slow. He was
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: crushing the ball everywhere and his his average is hitting
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: stats they just didn't you know, it didn't show that
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: and he stayed with it.
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: Was has been awesome in the clubhouse. He's been awesome
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: to throw too.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: And I think, you know, not only should he he
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: be in the All Star Game, but he needs to
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: be talked about a lot more.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: I like that.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Well, tell us a little more about him. I don't
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: know a lot about him. I haven't really seen him
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: too many interviews. Like he seems a little bit quiet
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: and hidden.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: So what's he like?
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he is a quiet guy. He's goofy, always
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: has a smile on his face.
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: Uh, he's.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: I threw to him a lot in in minor leagues
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: and just to see how much better that he has
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: gotten with receiving, blocking, pitch calling, and reading swings. It's
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: really fantastic to watch. Really good guy.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Nice well Spencer, dude, this was awesome, man, Really appreciate
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: the time. Great to have you back on and to
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: see you thriving again. So keep doing your thing, dude.
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: Thanks guys,