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Andrea Urban on Kyle Whittingham to Michigan, The reaction from Michigan folks, Morgan Scalley building his coaching staff at Utah + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to the Sean O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 3: Our number three, Andrea Urban is kind of enough to
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  Speaker 3: join us. Fox thirteen Sports reporter, Utah Jazz and mammothan
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  Speaker 3: Arena hosts the twenty twenty three Utah Sports Caster of
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  Speaker 3: the Year, and as I have told you many times,
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  Speaker 3: the hardest working person in sports here in the state
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  Speaker 3: of Utah.
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  Speaker 2: Andrea, welcome back to the show.
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  Speaker 1: How are you, hey, Sean, I'm good. You know, if
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  Speaker 1: to give you a call because your intros make me
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  Speaker 1: feel great.
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  Speaker 2: Well, look, you deserve it.
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  Speaker 3: You are everywhere and it helps the rest of us
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  Speaker 3: who like to do this job because you're creating that
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  Speaker 3: much content and getting that many stories. So I appreciate
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  Speaker 3: your time on what I'm sure is also another busy.
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  Speaker 2: Day for you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you have a unique perspective on some of the
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  Speaker 3: big things that have been coming down the pipe in
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  Speaker 3: Utah sports as of late, because you know, you're a
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  Speaker 3: Michigander and now, yeah, now Kyle Whittingham is headed to
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  Speaker 3: the Midwest.
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  Speaker 2: And people out there.
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  Speaker 3: I have family in the Midwest that all, of course,
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  Speaker 3: when this news broke, they text me, they call me,
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  Speaker 3: and they kind of want to know, like, okay, so
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  Speaker 3: what's the deal. We've we've seen, you know, the great
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  Speaker 3: years of Utah football, but what's this guy, Like, how's
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  Speaker 3: he going to fit in? You know, like not a
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  Speaker 3: huge Mormon community necessarily in ann Arbor that I'm aware of,
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  Speaker 3: And so people have all these questions give me some context,
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  Speaker 3: like what do people from Michigan know about the staff
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  Speaker 3: that's coming in?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely nothing, because I was getting all the texts as
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  Speaker 1: well and all the question and so I went to
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  Speaker 1: Michigan State, which this only stings a little bit, but
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  Speaker 1: happy for happy for coach with I even texted Freddie
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  Speaker 1: Whittingham and was just like, hey, man, if you go, congrats,
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  Speaker 1: but this things like this just thinks to build to
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  Speaker 1: build a relationship with so many of these position coaches
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  Speaker 1: and then just have them move on. And now they're
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  Speaker 1: saying go blue. Yeah, so my entire family is die
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  Speaker 1: hard you of them or Michigan State, depending on where
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  Speaker 1: each cousin or kid has gone to school and I'm
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  Speaker 1: getting text from my uncle. What does this mean? What's happening?
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  Speaker 1: And let me tell you. I will say Michigan football
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  Speaker 1: fans are not as kind as Utah football fans. And
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  Speaker 1: I know Utah football fans still complain and still have
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  Speaker 1: things to say, but overall believe in what has been
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  Speaker 1: working for years on years, and old Kyle will figure
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  Speaker 1: it out right. And now he's going over to Michigan
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  Speaker 1: where these fans will not give wit in his staff
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  Speaker 1: any space for error, and they will yell inappropriate things
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  Speaker 1: and they will target I mean, it is, it is.
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  Speaker 1: It is off the charts in Big ten country. I
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  Speaker 1: mean that's why when I came here, you know, six
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  Speaker 1: years ago, I was like, oh, okay, this is Petto's
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  Speaker 1: Coolus is kind of on that same but you know,
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  Speaker 1: not really because of the hostility that goes into it.
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  Speaker 1: If you look at the press conference coach wits first
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  Speaker 1: introductory price conference, how many times did they ask how
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  Speaker 1: do you feel about Ohio State? How do you feel
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  Speaker 1: about Ohio State? And that's because they're not kidding, like
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  Speaker 1: it's not this historic rivalry where it's like, oh, we
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  Speaker 1: like some of the coaches over there because we work together. No no, no,
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  Speaker 1: we hate everyone's guts and you better hate them too,
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  Speaker 1: and so I just they don't know anything. But I
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  Speaker 1: also think at the same time, fans are excited because
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you could have hired a better guy
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  Speaker 1: after what the fiasco that happened at Michigan.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're looking for scandal repellence, there's nobody better
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  Speaker 3: than Kyle Whittingham and the assistance that he's bringing with him.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, obviously, you know some big losses for Utah,
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  Speaker 3: but also for BYU, and I know that you have
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  Speaker 3: followed Jay Hill from when he was in a head
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  Speaker 3: coach at Weaver State and then obviously the cordinator at
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  Speaker 3: Brigham Young. How big of a loss is that for
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  Speaker 3: Kilani and his staff?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? Huge. I My heart's just been breaking, really just
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  Speaker 1: seeing them be introduced at Michigan and waving and smiling,
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  Speaker 1: and then you see j Hill there clapping, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: just like, oh my gosh, they're gone, like it like
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  Speaker 1: it almost just never happened, even though of course it did.
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  Speaker 1: J Hill, my goodness, what a guy who who spent
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  Speaker 1: his time I think it was eight years as a
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  Speaker 1: head coach at Weaver State and gave gave that program
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  Speaker 1: this just elite status in the Big Sky. I remember
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  Speaker 1: talking to other Big Sky schools when I was in Idaho,
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  Speaker 1: and everyone hated Weaver State because j Hill had them
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  Speaker 1: in tip top shape. And then you see him get
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  Speaker 1: more into his comfort zone when it comes to just
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  Speaker 1: locking in on the defense and what by You's been
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  Speaker 1: able to do. And he gets along well with Kilani
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  Speaker 1: and that staff. But I just bet you when you
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  Speaker 1: had offered an opportunity to go to U of M,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's almost impossible to look away. But Jay
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  Speaker 1: Hill is not only a kind, smart like human being
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  Speaker 1: on and off that football field, but he was great
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  Speaker 1: to work with two as a media member, and I
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  Speaker 1: was talking with a writer in Michigan. He reached out
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  Speaker 1: to me asking me questions, and he said, Man, we
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  Speaker 1: have not felt that way about coaching about a coaching
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  Speaker 1: staff in a long time. Here. It's cool that you
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  Speaker 1: and other people have good things to say about Hill
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  Speaker 1: and witting him and so on, because we can honestly
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  Speaker 1: say that we haven't felt that way, and and I'm
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  Speaker 1: excited for them, but also I'm still a little unsure
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  Speaker 1: about it.
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  Speaker 3: All, yeah, Look, it's it's going to be an adjustment
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  Speaker 3: for everyone. Again, you cover every team in the state,
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  Speaker 3: and there's all this like mixing and matching, and now
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  Speaker 3: Kevin McGibbon is coming down from Utah State staff to
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  Speaker 3: coordinate at the University of Utah. And look, his name
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  Speaker 3: wasn't at the top of a lot of people's list.
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  Speaker 3: He was a lesser known candidate than like a Jonathan
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  Speaker 3: Smith who came into Salt Lake City apparently to have
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  Speaker 3: discussions about this job.
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  Speaker 2: And there was some.
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  Speaker 3: Conversation about maybe Aaron Roderick coming back from Provo to
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  Speaker 3: Salt Lake City. And then you look at the numbers
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  Speaker 3: and you look at what mcgibbn has done, especially with
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  Speaker 3: the wide receiver position and with his quarterbacks, and I
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  Speaker 3: think there's a lot of reasons to be encouraged. You
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  Speaker 3: covered his most recent offense at Utah State, So tell
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  Speaker 3: me what you think of mcgiven coming to Utah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was also surprised by that one, and not
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  Speaker 1: in a what this guy way, and more in just like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: they see something and are seeing his vision differently. So
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  Speaker 1: when I did go up to Logan, listen, I'm a
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  Speaker 1: big fan I'm a big Bryson Barnes fan. I've said
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  Speaker 1: it time and time again, but I loved what he
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  Speaker 1: was able to do with this offense because their running
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  Speaker 1: back corps was able to thrive while still Barnes aired
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  Speaker 1: it out on a few plays where you kind of
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  Speaker 1: didn't see it coming, and I liked that because you
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  Speaker 1: think it's going to go into the hands of I
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  Speaker 1: think it was Miles Davis Junior and for the run,
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  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, Barnes was airing it out.
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  Speaker 1: And then when Barnes got injured later in the season,
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  Speaker 1: their quarterback depth was deep enough to bring in Conover
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  Speaker 1: into the Potato Bowl and at least deliver a touchdown there.
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  Speaker 1: I know they fell in that game, but there were
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  Speaker 1: a lot of moments Anthony Garcia another quarterback who was
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  Speaker 1: also playing wide receiver, and he's going both ways and
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  Speaker 1: he's doing all the things, and I liked that. It
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  Speaker 1: seemed like everybody knew how to play every single position,
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  Speaker 1: even if on the roster it said you were a
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  Speaker 1: QB or a wide receiver. And I think right there
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  Speaker 1: shows that baby McGivern was cooking up something that I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't even aware of. Until I saw it depth come
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  Speaker 1: into the football game, and that's when I kind of thought, oh,
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  Speaker 1: Garcia knows what he's doing, and he's supposed to be
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  Speaker 1: under center, and he just caught a touchdown like things
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  Speaker 1: like that, and I think that's what excites me and
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  Speaker 1: kind of what made me go, Okay, cool, let's see
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  Speaker 1: what he's going to do at Utah.
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  Speaker 3: Andrew Urban is our guest here on the Sean O'Connell Show,
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  Speaker 3: talking a little Utah college football right now. We'll get
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  Speaker 3: to the Utah Jazz here in just a second. But
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  Speaker 3: Morgan Scaley is now the head coach, and we've been
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  Speaker 3: getting everyone's thoughts. I mean, I love Morgan. He was
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  Speaker 3: a captain when I was a walk on on the
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  Speaker 3: team and I've known him since. Great, great person. I
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  Speaker 3: think he's an awesome and intelligent football coach. I think
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  Speaker 3: he's a great leader. I think he's incredibly charismatic. But
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  Speaker 3: this is his first job and it is a big
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  Speaker 3: one as a head coach. How do you think it's
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  Speaker 3: going to go in the early early years.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's a huge job. And I was
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  Speaker 1: just rooting for them in the Vegas Bowl. I was
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  Speaker 1: home in Michigan, and we had Michigan on one and
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  Speaker 1: Utah on the other TV, and I'm going back and forth,
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  Speaker 1: and I just wanted them to have that performance that
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  Speaker 1: they had because Morgan deserves a good start, and I
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  Speaker 1: actually think it should be pretty seamless. I mean, Van
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  Speaker 1: Pierre said it in his press conference post game of
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  Speaker 1: the Vegas Ball He's like, we met with Scali right
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  Speaker 1: when everything changed. He said, let's do this thing, and
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  Speaker 1: let's go and then you look at all the distractions
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  Speaker 1: that the team had going into that one and they
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  Speaker 1: still managed to win forty four to twenty two. So
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  Speaker 1: in that instance, I think this should be a smooth
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  Speaker 1: transition where where this team is confident, if we could
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  Speaker 1: keep if we can keep the players in the house,
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  Speaker 1: then then we I'm excited for what Scally can do
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  Speaker 1: in this era. I think he's going to be great
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  Speaker 1: off the start. I really do. And maybe that's just
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  Speaker 1: me being optimistic, and because I do like working with him.
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  Speaker 1: Anytime we had the opportunity to speak to the defensive
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  Speaker 1: side of the ball, he was always pretty open to
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  Speaker 1: have conversations about any questions you had. You didn't dance
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  Speaker 1: around things, which I like that and I think it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be great. I just am now curious to see
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  Speaker 1: who they maintain in this new era because that is
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  Speaker 1: a huge part on top of just Morgan, it has
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  Speaker 1: a huge part on who is your talent on the
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  Speaker 1: football field.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's switch gears a little bit here.
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  Speaker 3: Talk about this Utah Jazz team that if we go
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  Speaker 3: back to last year, I mean, obviously the tanking experiment
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  Speaker 3: didn't pay off the way that people wanted it to,
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  Speaker 3: and there was a little bit of angst, and I
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  Speaker 3: think that led to, you know, some personnel changes in
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  Speaker 3: the front office, and the promises were there that hey,
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  Speaker 3: it's not going to look like it did, and it hasn't.
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  Speaker 2: This is a really fun and interesting team.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously a young team, and while the fan base was
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  Speaker 3: maybe expecting that tanking of some sort was gonna happen,
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  Speaker 3: these guys go out there and they compete every single night,
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  Speaker 3: and they're better that they were supposed to be. Andrea,
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  Speaker 3: which now puts the front office in a really weird situation.
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  Speaker 3: But you've been so so close to it, are you?
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  Speaker 3: Are you surprised to this point what the Jazz team
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  Speaker 3: has become.
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  Speaker 2: I think ahead of schedule Oh absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: I'm having so much fun watching this Jazz team because
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  Speaker 1: it makes me as a as a fan and as
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  Speaker 1: a person who covers this team. It makes me excited
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  Speaker 1: that that they're trying and that you can see the
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  Speaker 1: passion in Kiante Georgia's eyes, and it's not just Lowry
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  Speaker 1: game after game, and you see Kyle Philipowski's growth and
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  Speaker 1: development really coming to fruition. I mean, sometimes it's not
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  Speaker 1: always the wins, but when you look at the Jazz
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  Speaker 1: Pistons game, like, are you kidding me? What was the
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  Speaker 1: confidence and the passion and the you could see them
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  Speaker 1: looking over at Will Hardy and like listening and then executing,
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  Speaker 1: and it just seemed like this well oiled machine. And
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  Speaker 1: then you have nights like where they had the lead
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  Speaker 1: on the War Years the entire time, and then down
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  Speaker 1: the stretch can't make a shot and Golden State wins
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  Speaker 1: the ballgame. And so it's there are flashes, there are
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  Speaker 1: flashes of growth and development, and I'm so excited that
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  Speaker 1: there might be a chance here for Keyante and Lowry
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  Speaker 1: to maybe get an All Star nod because it's cool
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  Speaker 1: that in the beginning of the season, Will Hardy said
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  Speaker 1: anyone can have a breakout year, and that can be
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  Speaker 1: anyone in the league, anyone on our team. It could
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  Speaker 1: be a rookie, it could be a three year vet.
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  Speaker 1: And my goodness, did Keante George, after having a rocky
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  Speaker 1: last season come back and just answer the call? And
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  Speaker 1: that's been a lot of fun to see a twenty
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  Speaker 1: two year old just just calling the shots and making
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  Speaker 1: the shots. And it's exciting to watch. But yeah, at
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  Speaker 1: the same time, I'm also sitting here going, Okay, twelve
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  Speaker 1: and twenty two is our record? Now? What?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Now? What?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Because, like I said, I was alluding to the decision
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  Speaker 3: that the front office might have to make where you've
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  Speaker 3: got to you got to pick that you don't want
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  Speaker 3: to see conveyed to Oklahoma City of all teams. Right,
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  Speaker 3: a young, already championship caliber squad that isn't just going
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  Speaker 3: to cause you problems this year but for the next
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  Speaker 3: five or ten. Right, And you've got Lowry Marketen playing
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  Speaker 3: at all star level. You've got Keyante George flirting with
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  Speaker 3: that same kind of distinction, and then you've got you know,
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  Speaker 3: like I think, weirdly, the Walker Kessler injury does you
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  Speaker 3: a favor in terms of him not being available and
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  Speaker 3: adding to that mix and making you even better than
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  Speaker 3: you are. But they they basically promised the fan base, Hey,
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  Speaker 3: we're not going to do it on purpose, but you
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  Speaker 3: might have to do it on purpose if you want
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  Speaker 3: to keep that pick.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know, Oh man, you're This is a
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  Speaker 1: hard conversation for me because I always just want to
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  Speaker 1: I always want to win the ball game, and I
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  Speaker 1: always want to have something to root for, and and
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  Speaker 1: towards the end of the season last year, I heard
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  Speaker 1: it from the fan base, and I heard it from
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  Speaker 1: just just people who were around the Jazz games being like, man,
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  Speaker 1: this feels like they're not even trying or it feels
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  Speaker 1: like they're not giving it their all, and that hurts us,
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  Speaker 1: like that makes us feel bad. And so I don't
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  Speaker 1: ever want to feel that way. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: how do we make ourselves better? Oh, it's so hard.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have the I don't have the answer for
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  Speaker 1: that one, because I want to keep doing what they're doing,
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  Speaker 1: which is trying to win the game every single night
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  Speaker 1: for growth and development purposes. And I will leave it
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  Speaker 1: up to the front office to decide what they gotta
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  Speaker 1: do because because I don't. This is why I don't
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  Speaker 1: do that dang job, because that kind of stuff makes
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  Speaker 1: me sad because I just want them to go out
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  Speaker 1: and and let let each guy be a star each
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  Speaker 1: night and not gonna lie. Cody Williams thrown down the
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  Speaker 1: other night. I'm happy to see him playing with confidence too.
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  Speaker 1: So something's working over there. Something working. I just don't
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  Speaker 1: know what the next steps are.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't either, So we'll leave that to the
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  Speaker 3: people who are paid to make those decisions. But the uh, look,
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  Speaker 3: you're like the queen of fan engagement, especially in that role,
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  Speaker 3: and I got to imagine that you're you know, your
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  Speaker 3: work experience is significantly different this year than last because
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  Speaker 3: of some of the things we've already been talking about.
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  Speaker 3: Can you can you give me a sense of how
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  Speaker 3: different it is this year?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? Absolutely, you're Are you kidding me? I had to
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  Speaker 1: hype up the crowd and we were down by twenty
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  Speaker 1: last season. Yeah, fans, let's go. We're down by twenty.
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  Speaker 1: There's still a chance. And that was that was tough
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  Speaker 1: because because sometimes they look at me and be like,
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  Speaker 1: get out there and bring your energy because there's none
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  Speaker 1: in the Delta Center. Right now and this year, it
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  Speaker 1: feels very much like I can almost join in with
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  Speaker 1: the fans energy and build on that. And then when
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  Speaker 1: I go into the stands now and get interactive with
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  Speaker 1: the fans, they're not saying things that they previously were,
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  Speaker 1: like what's going on? Tell them to do this and
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  Speaker 1: tell them to do that, which, first of all, can't
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  Speaker 1: do that, can't tell them anything. I'm just here to
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  Speaker 1: hold the microphone. But the hostility is much different, and
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  Speaker 1: there seems to be like a sense of belief throughout
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  Speaker 1: the fan base now. And I will say, shout out
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  Speaker 1: that Jersey exchange. I'm not seeing any more yellow in
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  Speaker 1: the house. And I think bringing the purple back, getting
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  Speaker 1: everyone in their new threads is good when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to bringing a fan base together and bringing that arena together.
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  Speaker 1: And there's also been updates to the arena, so it
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  Speaker 1: just it feels much more legit, and it feels like
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  Speaker 1: a sense of belief through the fan base versus last
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  Speaker 1: year piping them up when there was no chance of
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  Speaker 1: winning that game.
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  Speaker 3: So give me a sense of the team culture right now.
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  Speaker 3: I'm incredibly impressed with Will Hardy because he walks this line.
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  Speaker 3: It seems to like he knows when he gets to
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  Speaker 3: Like he's supposed to be the cool young coach that
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  Speaker 3: relates to his players on the level that maybe these
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: old guys don't. But he's not afraid to coach him
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: hard And we've gotten some great little sound bites and
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: things like that that don't offend me. But if you
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: care about language, you might get bothered by. Like I
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: love what I'm seeing from Will Hardy, I mean love it.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: And he's establishing what I think is an important culture
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: that is not going to pay off this year, but
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: hopefully sooner than later. You're closer to it than I am.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: So give me a sense of what that actually looks like.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely. Coach Hardy is a noble guy. I
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: can say that he does not take crap from anyone
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: or anything, And he doesn't care if you're the star
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: of the show or if you think you're the star.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: He wants you to share the basketball. He wants you
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: to while you're on the bench, watch the game. See
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: how when you get into the game, how can you
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: make a difference versus just waiting until it's your turn
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: to getting the game and then figure it out. I mean,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Will has been big on that. He's like, I'm so
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: confused when our guys are out what are we doing?
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Like are we are we watching? Are we learning? Are
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: we adjusting? So then when you come in those adjustments
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: can be made. There's just so many things that every
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: time I talk to Will or hear from Will and
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: just an availability. He's like, Okay, sure our offense is on,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: like we were scoring points, but this, this, this, this,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: And then he just goes off about transition defense and
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: he goes off about I'm going to pull you out
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: of the game if you are not defending, and I
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: love it because he stands by that and we literally
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: see him say something and then do that. So that's
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: another interesting part. It's like, Okay, are we losing, are
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: we winning? Are we trying? Are we not? But then
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: you look at Will Hardy and my goodness, he's got passion,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: he's got confidence. He also doesn't put up with anything,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: and I love it. There's a viral or semi viral
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: video of him going off on the bench and people
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: are like, oh, that's going to get him fired in Utah,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: and I said, no, it's not, No, it's not because
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: this is what we're looking for and this is what
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: we need, so keep it coming.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Coach Hardy, you could say you can say bad words
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: on NBA benches, ladies and gentlemen.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: It's just, uh, it's just part of the job.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Jerry Slowan survived here for a long time, but you
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: make a sailor blush with his language. Ace Bailey, what
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: do you think of his rookie year?
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Okay. I love Ace Bailey because everybody
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: was like, he doesn't want to be here. He's gonna
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: be this negative energy around because he's all doesn't want
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: to be present. Have I seen out of any player
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: embrace this state, this fan base, this space, his role.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: He's so not like I guess humble I was gonna say,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: real like he when he comes into the availabilities, he's like, yeah,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I'm learning so much. I didn't even know this, this
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: or this, and and he'll he'll just own the fact
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: that this is a lot harder than what I thought
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: it was gonna be. And and I love And then
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I was just at the Boys and Girls Club in
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Salt Lake with Keyante and Ace Bailey. They were given
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: back for the holidays, and Ace was so I didn't
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: have to be there. It was Kante's event. Ace decided
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: to go, wanted to be there and even like talk
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: to me and he's like, yeah, Keante said get out
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: of the house, and so I wanted to come. And
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: I love that this is a nineteen year old is
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: he nineteen eighteen eighteen? Maybe his numbers nineteen? And he
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: just is he is embracing this place and he seems
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: like he's so willing to learn in this This image
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: that you know, social media painted of him is is
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: not true? And and yeah, is he you know, is
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: he having a Donavan Mitchell rookie season? No, but he's
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: so smart and you can see that on the court
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: for the move that he's making, whether sharing the ball
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: or when he has that fadeaway j that just splashes.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: So I am, I am, I'm a stand for Ace Bailey.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: I like what we're seeing from this Jazz team. I
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: hope it doesn't cost him a lottery pick, but I
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: think might.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: That's not for me to decide.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: I'm just here to have fun and watch these games,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: and you make it a lot more fun.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: So thank you for joining us to dan you, yes.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Thank you for having me happy to New Year and
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: all the things and let's have a good twenty twenty six.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: We will see in here, Andre, urban around because if
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: you care about sports in.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Utah, she's everywhere. Thanks Andrea, Thanks Sean, Thanks sn