Latest / Elon Musk Podcast / Starship Flight 7 POSTPONED
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- 0:01Hey everybody, welcome back to the Elon Musk Podcast.
- 0:05This is a show where we discuss the critical crossroads, the
- 0:08shape, SpaceX, Tesla X, The Boring Company and Neurolink.
- 0:13I'm your host, Will Walden. There we go.
- 0:17OK, so I'm going to I'm going to show you something that happened
- 0:19earlier today, which I wasn't expecting at all.
- 0:24I was not expecting this whatsoever, but Flight 7 has
- 0:30been a little bit postponed. And this is according to two
- 0:34sources that I have right now. One is one source is Elon Musk,
- 0:37and that happened during his live stream on X.
- 0:41And the other one is from the OIS, which basically tracks all
- 0:47the space flights, you know, Starling flights, the new Blue
- 0:52Origin flight, which is coming up, which if Blue Origin does
- 0:55this, it's going to be pretty sick because if they beat SpaceX
- 1:01to orbit and deploy before Starship, oh man, Elon is going
- 1:07to a a is going to lose it in a good way.
- 1:12I think he like he's going to be cool with Bezos and Blue Origin
- 1:18making to orbit before them, but he's extremely competitive.
- 1:22Elon's so competitive, and if Bezos and Blue Origin get to
- 1:27orbit and deploy something before Elon, it doesn't matter
- 1:32what it is as long as they deploy something.
- 1:35Elon's going to flip his limb. I think he's going to flip out.
- 1:38I it's either going to be a good flip out or a bad flip out.
- 1:40Elon's going to get real mad. I think at some of the engineers
- 1:43at SpaceX be disappointed, I should say, because they've been
- 1:48working so hard for so long on the Starship that there's a
- 1:52possibility that Elon Musk would get a little bit upset with all
- 1:57that's going on. So I don't know there, there's
- 2:03a, it's a part of me that wants to think that SpaceX is going to
- 2:08deploy. I mean, they're going to deploy
- 2:10something this round. But who does it first, Elon or
- 2:14Bezos? And a Bezos does this.
- 2:18And we know Bezos is getting jacked, brother.
- 2:20He's getting, he's getting, I don't know what he's doing his,
- 2:24his whole body. He's he's becoming like alpha
- 2:28male, right. So Bezos is extremely hyper
- 2:33competitive, but also has a similar mindset to Elon about
- 2:39Space Flight. Make a big rocket, send things
- 2:42to orbit. Eventually they'll send stuff to
- 2:45space that can build a space station.
- 2:48They can build habitats in space.
- 2:50And one of, you know, 100 years down the line, space will be a
- 2:56place that people go. It's just on a normal, on a
- 2:58normal everyday basis, people will be going up there on
- 3:02vacations, living in space, working in space, going to the
- 3:07moon, deploying habitats throughout the solar system in
- 3:14100 years, 200 years, something like that's what they both want.
- 3:17Elon wants that and Bezos wants that.
- 3:19So if Elon and Starship get to orbit before Bezos, and of
- 3:27course Elon has said that the Starlinks that they're going to
- 3:30deploy for, for Starship Flight 7 aren't they're, they're
- 3:35basically dummy Starlinks. They're test Starlinks.
- 3:37They don't want to ruin the technology.
- 3:39They don't want to send real Starlinks to orbit on a test
- 3:43flight. That would just be a waste of
- 3:45money. They can also send those
- 3:47Starlinks later on the next Starship flight, or they can
- 3:51send them on a Falcon 9. So there's no reason for them to
- 3:54fly them on this Starship Flight 7 test.
- 3:58Mind you, Starship is still a test vehicle.
- 4:03Starship isn't completed. We know what you know, we know
- 4:05what it's going to be like when it's done, you know, Ilana said.
- 4:10You know, there's three different versions of Starship.
- 4:13Block One, Block 2, Block 3, Block 2 is coming up.
- 4:16Block 3, super powerful, but block one, we've seen what
- 4:19happens to block one. Sometimes it doesn't work.
- 4:23Block 2, this is the first block 2 configuration of Starship, so
- 4:29we don't know if it's going to work.
- 4:31Everything from block one seems to be great, but block 2 is
- 4:34bigger, more powerful, can hold more cargo.
- 4:38So we don't know if it's going to work.
- 4:41I mean, the engineers at SpaceX have a pretty good idea if it's
- 4:44going to work, but we don't know exactly, you know, if it's going
- 4:50to be completely successful. So why waste those Starlink
- 4:53satellites on something that may not work?
- 4:57Some of this is not proven. I hope it works.
- 5:00I really don't. I really do.
- 5:01I'm a huge SpaceX fan, Phil, if if you're not familiar, I spent
- 5:07about 10 to 12 months, almost a year down at Starbase.
- 5:14And I, I recognize your name, but there's a lot of Phillips on
- 5:18on YouTube. So I'm not sure which Phillip
- 5:21you are. I'm from space, from the space
- 5:23news pod channel. There's another Phillip over
- 5:25there and I'm not sure it's the same one, but I spent about a
- 5:28year down at Starbase just watching SpaceX build this
- 5:32rocket, the first iteration booster, you know, booster 420
- 5:39in a booster on ship 420. So I was down there for the very
- 5:42beginning and I've been following them very closely for
- 5:45the last X amount of years. They've been building this
- 5:47thing. I, it changed my life, literally
- 5:50changed my life to what it is now.
- 5:53And I love doing this podcast, the Elon Musk podcast, but I
- 5:56also have space news pod, which is not a YouTube channel now and
- 5:59also a podcast. So I really want this to work.
- 6:05This next block, Block 2 version of Starship will be
- 6:09fundamentally bigger, better, faster, more powerful, can take
- 6:15more cargo. Apparently it has, you know, the
- 6:21ability to launch Starlinks. Yeah, I knew it, Phillip.
- 6:24I knew you. I Yeah, I recognize you.
- 6:26Yeah. Three to four years.
- 6:28Yeah. And I've.
- 6:28I think I've seen you in live streams before.
- 6:31So there's other there's a couple other Phillips too, but
- 6:34not just Phillip. So yeah, thanks for also thanks
- 6:38for hanging out and watching for so long.
- 6:39I appreciate it. That's awesome.
- 6:42That's awesome. So over the last, you know,
- 6:48month, I guess I should like reel this back in a little bit
- 6:51Over the last month or two, I haven't been updating Space News
- 6:55pod as much. I've been working on this.
- 6:58I've been working on this podcast in this channel.
- 7:01Not really this channel as much, but I'm working on the Elon Musk
- 7:05podcast, the actual podcast. I have 860 some odd episodes of
- 7:10that show. Been doing it forever, almost as
- 7:14long as the space news pod. So this is kind of like dip in
- 7:18and out of the space news pod now and I'm focusing on this.
- 7:21But space news pod still exists and that will be updated soon
- 7:24too. So and probably a live video in
- 7:28the next few days. Probably going to go live in the
- 7:29next few days. So there is a postponement
- 7:31though. Let's get to that.
- 7:33I've been talking about that postponing thing for a little
- 7:37bit. Primary launch day, 11th
- 7:40January, backup launch day, the 13th, January 13th backup is the
- 7:4715th and also the 16th. So 11th, 12th, 13th, 14th, 15th,
- 7:5316th. All those days are for the
- 7:57launch of Starship. Possibly.
- 8:01Now there is a possibility that SpaceX is running into some bad
- 8:07weather here. So SpaceX down in the Gulf of
- 8:11Mexico, right on the tip of Texas.
- 8:14Starbase, Texas 7 day forecast. It's going to be not that good.
- 8:2430% chance of showers this afternoon tonight showers,
- 8:27showers Wednesday showers Wednesday night, 50% chance of
- 8:30showers Thursday Friday, 30% chance of showers Saturday
- 8:34mostly sunny, but what are those winds five to seven mph becoming
- 8:40east in the afternoon on Saturday partly cloudy on
- 8:42Saturday night. And most of the time things are
- 8:45postponed because of horrible weather, you know, or like some,
- 8:50some sort of event that happened to the launch area or to the
- 8:56rocket. But mainly it's usually weather.
- 9:00Usually it's like we just have high winds.
- 9:02We can't do this. Or with a Falcon 9, we have
- 9:06choppy seas. We can't land the rocket where
- 9:09we want to land it. So they'll postpone it a day or
- 9:11two, but the weather looks horrible for the next whatever
- 9:161234, you know, for the whole week basically.
- 9:21So Friday night, Saturday, much better, much better.
- 9:27So hopefully we can get a launch on Saturday, the 11th, 12th,
- 9:3213th. But we had another thing from
- 9:35our discord on our space news on the Elon Musk podcast discord on
- 9:40the Twitter live stream that's AX live stream.
- 9:42Elon Musk says that Starship's 7th flight is delayed to
- 9:45sometime next week. Don't know when that is.
- 9:49So I watched the I watched the live stream.
- 9:55I don't know when that is though.
- 9:56I don't You said sometime next week, right.
- 9:58So so it's about a week after which what was thought to be the
- 10:06flight of this Starship. So seven days possible weather.
- 10:13And then we have Elon saying maybe next week.
- 10:19So could could possibly be a week from today.
- 10:24Could be what day is that on 11th on Saturday, 12th on
- 10:29Sunday, Monday the 13th through the 17th, something like that.
- 10:34So we have the 16th and like anything from the 11th to the
- 10:3616th is available. So we have Monday, the 13th,
- 10:43Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday is up to the 16th right now.
- 10:49So the possibility we could get flight next week and that means
- 10:56that SpaceX is probably going to get beat by Blue Origin.
- 11:03Now the other thing that we always look at here is the road
- 11:08closures. Public notice Cameron County
- 11:10order temporary close State Highway 4 and Boca Chica Beach 0
- 11:15Rd. closures and except for these ones, 4:00 AM to 5:00 AM.
- 11:202:00 PM to 5:00 PM Eighth, intermittent, temporary and
- 11:25intermittent State Highway 4 Rd. delay.
- 11:27So Rd. full Rd. closures. It's usually for the whole day.
- 11:32You know, they'll be like, huh. 4:00 AM to 5:00 AM this one
- 11:34hour, 2:00 PM to 5:00 PM. Three hours, 12:00 AM to 3:00
- 11:38AM. Those aren't for the launch.
- 11:40Those aren't for the launch at all.
- 11:42So 8th and the 9th. What are they doing on the 8th?
- 11:46The 9th, I'm not sure. 4:00 to 5:00 AM.
- 11:52So let's see what it says for the road closures we'll be
- 11:57conducting Texas State of Department approved
- 11:59transportation operations on Hwy. 4.
- 12:02So they're moving something on the 8th and the 9th from the
- 12:06factory to the launchpad between 7:00.
- 12:08Between 2:00 PM and 5:00 PM. January 9th from 12:00 AM to
- 12:123:00 AM. The transport will take
- 12:14approximately 1 hour. So what are they doing between
- 12:20that time between the 8th and the 9th?
- 12:23Definitely not launching a Starship.
- 12:28Let's go back here. That menu, that big mega menu at
- 12:30the top is horrible by the way, whoever designed that oof,
- 12:33sorry, sorry bro, I mean this, it's great.
- 12:38I'm a web developer, so I look at these things and I'm like,
- 12:40oof, that's just gets in the way.
- 12:42Like if I accidentally mouse up there, not good Anyway, So yeah.
- 12:51Hey, what's up, Simon? How you doing?
- 12:58Yeah. So I'm not, I'm not sure what
- 12:59they're going to be doing. The launch site from from the
- 13:07Starbase facility, the build facility down to the launch
- 13:10facility. I'm not sure what they're doing.
- 13:14So we'll see what happens. I I think they're moving a hot
- 13:18staging ring. They did that with the last
- 13:21flight too. And apparently they somebody
- 13:23moved it last time or somebody, somebody saw it.
- 13:27I forgot where I saw that. I think it was on Reddit or
- 13:30something. Maybe it was on Discord.
- 13:32I'm not sure. But we have a Discord at the top
- 13:37of chat too. If you're, if you're interested
- 13:40in this kind of content. And this is all Elon Musk's
- 13:42show. This isn't just SpaceX.
- 13:43So it'll be SpaceX. It'll be anything to do with
- 13:51Elon Musk, any of his stuff. So today more closures for the
- 13:58rollout, 8th and the 9th yeah, so S ship 33's rollout is
- 14:03probably what's going to be what's going to be happening
- 14:09payload door. So there's been tests as well
- 14:11and I'm I don't this is the discord so I don't have this
- 14:14pulled up but I'm just going to read it off the discord for you
- 14:17so you know what's going on. Ship 33's payload Bay door was
- 14:21closed and a road closure was put in place for pad to factory.
- 14:24Please note this may be a typo as B14 cannot leave the pad
- 14:29unless it's under its own power. 12:00 AM to 3:00 AM Rd. closure
- 14:35identified to be a three hour roll out of a vehicle.
- 14:37We all know which vehicle that is from the star factory to the
- 14:40launch site. So it looks like they're moving
- 14:44ship 33 from the factory to the pad.
- 14:52So if yeah, so they said this is in our discord.
- 14:54So B14 cannot leave the pad unless it's under its own power.
- 14:58So we know it's ship 33 moving to the pad.
- 15:03So it looks like they're getting ready for this flight.
- 15:06I'm going to put my my hoodie back on.
- 15:08It was like it was hot doors open.
- 15:11I let my dog out too, by the way.
- 15:15There's a whole is my dog is like, I don't know, he's cool,
- 15:20he's fun, but try to get him out to go out for like the last hour
- 15:24before I went live And then literally the minute like the I
- 15:28was 3 minutes late because my dog didn't want to go out until
- 15:34literally the last minute. I was like, come on, man.
- 15:40And I had to because I can't have dog, you know, go to the
- 15:42bathroom in the house. So I was like, all right, bro,
- 15:47it's time, it's time now. So it looks like it really does
- 15:52look like ship 33 is moving down to the pad on January 8th or
- 15:58sorry, January 9th, January 8th or January 9th between 4:00 AM
- 16:02and 5:00 AM on the eighth and 2:00 PM to 5:00 PM is another
- 16:10primary date. And then January 9th, 2025.
- 16:13Here you go. Here's the the times again.
- 16:1512:00 AM to 3:00 AM will be some sort of roll out three hour roll
- 16:20out 12:00 AM to 3:00 AM will be the roll out of the Starship
- 16:25ship 33 to the pad to join the booster booster 14.
- 16:35It's going to be, it's going to be a, a, a, a sweet flight too.
- 16:40And I want to give you guys some updates about like what's going
- 16:45on with this flight. Tesla Oracle had an article.
- 16:48I'm going to, I'm going to help or this is going to help me out
- 16:51tremendously by going this article because they have a
- 16:53bunch of the stuff already listed out.
- 16:55And I, you know, I'll set my sources.
- 16:57I'm not, I'm not above that, right?
- 16:59Like, yeah, it's funny. There's other reporters on on
- 17:05YouTube that report things as if they did it themselves, but they
- 17:10all get it from the same place. They all get it from the same
- 17:11place as I do. It's pretty funny.
- 17:13And then they want to be known as as somebody who's a trusted
- 17:19news source, but they all get the same news from everybody
- 17:22else, the same thing. We have this recycle it, but
- 17:25it's fun. Forward flaps have been reduced
- 17:28in size and shifted towards the vehicle tip and away from the
- 17:34heat shield, significantly reducing their exposure to re
- 17:38entry heating while simplifying the underlying mechanisms.
- 17:41Redesigned propulsion system, including a 25% increase in
- 17:44propellant volume. 25% increase is huge.
- 17:48That's a huge, huge amount. A new fuel feed line system for
- 17:52Raptor vacuum engines. Redesigned vacuum jacketing of
- 17:56feed lines improved. Improved propulsion avionics
- 17:59module controlling vehicle valves and reading sensors.
- 18:02All of the above upgrades and additional vehicle performance
- 18:05in the ability to fly longer missions.
- 18:09New heat tile Shields or heat shield tiles.
- 18:14Backup layer to protect from missing or damaged tiles.
- 18:17Completely redesigned vehicle avionics, adding additional
- 18:20capability and redundancy for increasingly complex missions.
- 18:24Avionics upgrades Powerful flight computer A more powerful
- 18:27flight computer Upgrade that baby Integrated antennas that
- 18:30combine Starlink, GNSS and backup RF communications
- 18:34functions into one unit. Redesigned inertial navigation
- 18:38and star tracking sensors. Integrated smart batteries and
- 18:41power units that distribute data and 2.7 MWS of power across the
- 18:47ship to 24 Volt, 24 high voltage actuators in an increase to more
- 18:51than 30 vehicle cameras. Please Tesla, give us cameras.
- 18:57We want to see it all. I'm clapping.
- 19:00I would be so happy to see just fast cuts of cool stuff.
- 19:06Not like pro wrestling cuts or anything from the 90s.
- 19:10I'm saying or like action movie cuts.
- 19:12You know, I want to see cuts from like the launch tower as
- 19:15it's launching to a wide shot of it launching to a nose camera of
- 19:20it launching of its like as they can see the ground from the Cam
- 19:24from the nose, a drone camera. I want to see all these cuts and
- 19:28if they're going to have 30 cameras, I want to see all of
- 19:31them including like inside of the ship, inside of the booster.
- 19:36I want to see all of those cameras.
- 19:39Come on SpaceX, let's do this 30 cameras.
- 19:43I don't know what their ability is to stream all of those
- 19:46cameras, but the GoPro CEO said that they worked with SpaceX to
- 19:51get all these cameras functioning on Starship.
- 19:54So they have the ability to actually like record all of this
- 20:01and or it's going to be a wicked highlight reel and or street
- 20:05live stream in so. So, but then there we go.
- 20:09Starlink vehicle is capable of streaming more than 120
- 20:12megabytes per second of real time high definition video and
- 20:17telemetry in every phase of flight, providing invaluable
- 20:20engineering data to rapidly iterate across all systems.
- 20:26There we go. Send it to the engineers and
- 20:28then give us what you can. I that's all I ask.
- 20:32It's going to be sweet. It's going to be sweet.
- 20:34It's going to be awesome. I can't wait for that.
- 20:36We also have to make sure that everybody that is watching this
- 20:43has all the coolest footage, because how else do you get
- 20:46people excited if you don't show them this cool footage from 30
- 20:49different cameras? First Starship payload
- 20:53deployment of Starlink simulators, well, in Starship,
- 20:58all right. While in space, Starship will
- 20:59deploy 10 Starlink simulator similar in size and weight.
- 21:02The next generation Starlink satellites as the first exercise
- 21:05of a satellite deploy mission. The Starlink simulators will be
- 21:09on the same suborbital trajectory as Starship with
- 21:12splashdown targeted in the Indian Ocean.
- 21:15A relay of a single Raptor engine while in space is also
- 21:17planned. And that's a pretty big one.
- 21:20It was just like all these Starlinks and then this is a
- 21:22pretty big deal. A relay of a single Raptor
- 21:24engine while in space is also planned.
- 21:27That single Raptor engine in space is a huge deal because not
- 21:30only could it propel SpaceX into orbit, they have to test all the
- 21:35engines before they go to orbit. But as their, you know, their
- 21:40trajectory, suborbital trajectory, they have to move
- 21:42up, they go into orbit. So this one Raptor, if they can
- 21:46relight this in suborbital conditions, kick it up into
- 21:52orbit. So cool in a in a future flight.
- 21:54Of course not this flight. The South Starlink V2 satellites
- 21:57will deploy to low Earth orbit using Starship in the future
- 22:02experiments. Flight tests will include
- 22:04several experiments focused on ship return to launch site and
- 22:07catch a Starship's upper stage. A significant number of tiles
- 22:10will be removed to stress test vulnerable areas across the
- 22:14vehicle the side of the vehicle. Non structural versions of ship
- 22:18catch fittings are installed to test the fittings thermal
- 22:21performance along with a smooth and tapered edge of the tile
- 22:26line to address hotspots observed during re entry on
- 22:29Starship's sixth flight test. So meaning that last flight test
- 22:36they had cameras and also sensors all over this thing.
- 22:40So 30 cameras. Now you'll be able to see
- 22:43everything that goes wrong with Starship.
- 22:46So everything that goes wrong, they can fix.
- 22:48For Flight 8, the ship's re entry profile is being designed
- 22:52to intentionally stress the structural limits of the flaps
- 22:54will, at the point of maximum entry, dynamic pressure.
- 22:59That's amazing. They want to test it to failure
- 23:02almost. They want to make sure that it
- 23:04almost fails, but they also want that soft water landing.
- 23:07They don't want it to blow up on the way in.
- 23:09It might, but they don't want it to.
- 23:11Finally, several radar sensors will be tested on the chopsticks
- 23:14with the goal of increasing the accuracy while measuring
- 23:18distances between the chopsticks in a returning vehicle during
- 23:20catch. Hardware upgrade to the launch
- 23:23and catch tower will increase reliability for booster catch,
- 23:26including protections to the sensors on the tower chopsticks
- 23:29that were damaged at launch and resulted in the booster offshore
- 23:34divert on Starship's previous flight test.
- 23:37I wonder what this is just going to.
- 23:39Yeah, OK. I thought they'd have a picture
- 23:43or something. I've seen them, but I thought it
- 23:46would just be something to show you guys.
- 23:49So Flight 5 Raptor is being reused in Flight 7 and that is
- 23:54it. Yeah.
- 23:56Flight proven hardware for the first time, Raptor engine from
- 23:59the booster launched in return of Starship's fifth test flight
- 24:02launched will increase reliability for booster
- 24:04catching. So I'm excited about this.
- 24:06I'm, I'm really excited about this.
- 24:08I hope it works out and I really hope that SpaceX does a
- 24:12chopsticks landing this time because I'm excited about that.
- 24:17Let me know and chat like what do you guys want to see?
- 24:19I mean, I want to see I want to see Starship come back.
- 24:22It's not going to happen this flight, but I would love to see
- 24:24it come back. I would love to see SpaceX
- 24:27flying a booster back, catch that.
- 24:31And then in tower 2, they catch a ship, you know, in the future
- 24:35when they get that all fixed up, when they get that all built.
- 24:40Yeah. Let me know what you think.
- 24:43I'd like to know, you know, in the comments and if you're on
- 24:45Spotify or you know, any other platform that we're on right
- 24:49now, make sure you let me know in the comments because I want
- 24:52to know what you want to see from this flight.
- 24:54It's going to be a wild flight, man.
- 24:57It's going to be a really, really wild time.
- 24:59I think. I also think there's going to be
- 25:02some, you know, there's going to be some improvements for Flight
- 25:088, of course, from whatever they find from Flight 7.
- 25:10But they're already working on Flight 8.
- 25:13And whatever they find in Flight 7, it's going to transfer into
- 25:16Flight 8. And if they find something that
- 25:20really needs attention, they're going to stop everything, fix
- 25:23that thing. And then for Flight 8, whenever
- 25:27that's going to be, we don't know.
- 25:27We don't know what Flight 8's going to be, but Flight 7 might
- 25:30be next week. If you're just joining us,
- 25:32Flight 7 has been postponed according to Elon Musk during
- 25:37his live stream. I'll show you the the screenshot
- 25:41during his live stream today and I didn't get to see it live but
- 25:46Elon Musk says that Starship's flight 7 is delayed to sometime
- 25:50next week. So there's a video here of this.
- 25:55So let let me see if I can find the video for you and then we
- 26:01can watch it see if we can get the audio too.
- 26:09It's going to be difficult because this thing is not
- 26:11working well for me. So we're going to we're going to
- 26:14see if we can get you some audio as well.
- 26:15It doesn't work. Of course it doesn't work.
- 26:22Oh well, I couldn't get it to work anyway.
- 26:25Elon, he said Starship Flight 7 looks like it's pushed about 3
- 26:35or 4 days according to Elon Musk.
- 26:37And this does mean that we're going to get Flight 7 sometime
- 26:41next week, sometime next week. So here's the screenshot of
- 26:45that. Just so you know, Flight 7
- 26:48sometime next week. Really hope that they catch this
- 26:50booster because I think they might need it to need it to
- 26:54reuse it. The other boosters are a little
- 26:56bit behind. Oh, that's a yeah, that's a good
- 27:03point, Phillip. That's a good point.
- 27:11So if they so if they catch this one and they could reuse it, do
- 27:16you think they would fly on flight 8 or do you think they
- 27:19would they'd fly the same booster on flight 8 if
- 27:21everything works. It would take them a while for
- 27:24them to bet this out, though. It would take them, I don't even
- 27:28know how long it would take them to refurbish this thing and do a
- 27:31full flight of this. That would be wild.
- 27:36It would be really wild. I, I don't know, I think I think
- 27:40it would take them a few flights to reuse this, but if they can
- 27:45refurbish it because they're right in the middle.
- 27:48So I, it, it, there's a few things that I that I want to
- 27:51touch on here because they're right in the middle of very
- 27:54important testing, right? So the star links that they're
- 27:58testing for flight 7 relight of an engine.
- 28:02Of course, that's a huge deal. Maybe Flight 9 says Philip and
- 28:08they're they're still trying to figure out everything.
- 28:11You know, it's a brand new Block 2.
- 28:14Everything's Block 2 coming up in the future.
- 28:17So would they take this ship in the well, maybe not the ship,
- 28:23but because the ship probably going to blow up and be
- 28:25destroyed. So but they'll take this booster
- 28:29and reuse every single piece of it.
- 28:30Do you think they'd swap out some engines?
- 28:33Because when they catch it, I don't know what the stresses are
- 28:35like for the booster. You know, do did they figure out
- 28:39how to catch this with such such precision that it doesn't harm
- 28:49the structural integrity of the booster?
- 28:52The first time they caught it, it looked like he was pretty
- 28:55soft landing. But we don't know any of the
- 28:58statistics. We don't know any of the of the
- 29:01engineering from like something that's I have a water bottle
- 29:05here. Almost dropped it.
- 29:08So if you just listen to this, I apologize, but I'm going to do a
- 29:10little video demonstration here. The booster came in pretty hot,
- 29:16you know, and these chopsticks came pretty hot and just kind of
- 29:19like it looked like it was a soft landing, but it kind of
- 29:21clunked down. So that pressure pulls down on
- 29:26the bottom of the booster and did that kind of stretch out the
- 29:30booster and like everything in it, I don't know.
- 29:33I don't know. Is it structurally intact from
- 29:36the from the catch? I'm not sure.
- 29:39But could this new booster, you know, could they could they
- 29:44figure out the precision of the landing that they could reuse
- 29:47this booster? Philip, that's a really great
- 29:48point, though. When will they start reusing it?
- 29:52I hope it's designed to handle that kind of landing.
- 29:54I hope it's designed to I, I'm pretty sure the SpaceX engineers
- 29:57are really good at what they do. So I really hope they they took
- 30:00that into account. But also, like, you never know
- 30:04until you do it. Like, and that's what SpaceX
- 30:07does at Starbase, you know, they fly these Starships.
- 30:12And the fact that, like, it doesn't always go right and they
- 30:16have to fix things. They are really good at doing
- 30:21iterative processes. So if it doesn't work right,
- 30:25that's OK. They'll just build it better.
- 30:26You know, this is what they do. But if it doesn't work right the
- 30:30first time, maybe they did make those structural changes
- 30:36reinforce the booster and maybe they will be able to reuse one
- 30:39of these boosters. Flight 7.
- 30:41Not 100% sure. Not 100% sure.
- 30:44I I hope so, but I'm trying to think of I don't think it was on
- 30:50that sheet at all. Was it?
- 30:51Let me see. I don't think they did any fuel
- 30:59lines. And this is from Tesla Oracle
- 31:04upgrades Starship V2 start V taller compared Starship V2
- 31:10Starship, Starship Starship propulsion vehicle performance
- 31:15all the above again, additional vehicle, improved new
- 31:16generation, thermal protection, backup layer vehicle, vehicle,
- 31:20vehicle. Yeah, this is all mostly not not
- 31:26really a lot of booster stuff, just avionics and things like
- 31:30that. I don't think they said anything
- 31:33about the booster, only this. Several radar sensors will be
- 31:37tested on the tower chopsticks with the goal of increasing
- 31:39accuracy. So that could be part of this.
- 31:44What you were talking about hardware upgrades to the launch
- 31:47tower. Launch catch tower will increase
- 31:49reliability for booster catch, including protections to the
- 31:52sensors on the tower chopsticks that were damaged.
- 31:58Yeah, I, I mean, it's really up in the air.
- 32:01I think it'd be pretty cool if they could do it Flight 9.
- 32:04Yeah, I, I really, I think that if they do it on 7 and they
- 32:08catch it and they refurbish it, Flight 9 would be a good time to
- 32:13do that, to reuse at least some of it.
- 32:17You know, maybe they have a, you know, they have a booster, but
- 32:20they don't have all the engines, so maybe they have to use some
- 32:22different engines. That's the only thing I can
- 32:24think of that they might not be able to reuse because if
- 32:27everything works, there's no reason why they shouldn't do it
- 32:30again. They shouldn't reuse it because
- 32:32if they can start reusing rapidly reusing these boosters,
- 32:36that would be great. Fly it once or twice at least,
- 32:41and then just retire it, you know, fly it 3-4 times, then
- 32:43retire it. Be like, oh, OK, that one's
- 32:45getting sketchy, you know, get rid of that one.
- 32:48Send it out to the to the Rocket Garden.
- 32:51But yeah, the, it, it'll be, it'll be a little, I think it'll
- 32:56be a little while. I think 7 is going to be better
- 32:59than the last one, the last catch.
- 33:01But I, I don't know, man. I'm this conversation is all up
- 33:06in the air and I want it to work.
- 33:07Though the only reason why I'm thinking they might use booster
- 33:1214 is from everything I've seen, it takes them about two to three
- 33:15months to put all engines on a booster.
- 33:17Booster 15 does not have engines yet.
- 33:19They might just swap out the most important engine on booster
- 33:2214 in the middle ones. Yeah, it's I mean, there's no
- 33:26reason why they shouldn't. And two to three months, yeah,
- 33:29the reef like the rebuild, like putting all the engines on two
- 33:33to three months. That's a long time.
- 33:35And so think about that. 369124 flights in a year.
- 33:44That's it, that's it. If they do one at a time, that's
- 33:50not that many flights, four flights.
- 33:52And they have to get, you know, 50 flights under their belt
- 33:57before the moon. I don't know.
- 34:01It's it seems like a daunting task.
- 34:03And I know they're, you know, they postponed the moon
- 34:05missions. But, and I'm not a naysayer.
- 34:08I love SpaceX and I want it to work, but they have to have so
- 34:12many flights under their belt because it has to be reliable to
- 34:14send a moon Starship, like a lunar Starship to the moon, the
- 34:21moon's orbit. I don't know.
- 34:24I think, I think it could be, you know, if they're if they do
- 34:284 per year, that's not enough. That's not enough because then
- 34:32they'll have what, 15 by the time they do the the flight
- 34:37around the moon or the flight of the moon the first time.
- 34:39That's not Yeah, I don't know, except if they start
- 34:43refurbishing booster 12. I don't think so.
- 34:45They want to fly that thing, though.
- 34:46Yeah. I mean, if they if they if they
- 34:49fly this, I think it's going to I think if they don't do with
- 34:53this one, I think it's going to be soon though.
- 34:56Whatever they do, they have to start doing it soon.
- 35:02But can they risk failure? What's the risk to reward of
- 35:06that? Because every Starship cost
- 35:09money and time. So building a Starship and also
- 35:15building a booster, so that time to build the ships and get them
- 35:20all perfectly fine working in the building the booster and
- 35:24putting all the engines on four months for per booster, you
- 35:28know, and during that time you test the Starship while the
- 35:32booster is being built and then you build more starships.
- 35:36It's a, it's a tough, it's a tough situation for them because
- 35:41it seems like they could, you know, they could do it, you
- 35:46know, if they start refurbishing and reusing these boosters,
- 35:48sure. And especially if they start
- 35:50reusing starships for Starlink, Oh my God, that's going to be
- 35:55wow. Bye bye Amazon, bye bye.
- 35:59You know, who would, who would use project wiper, right?
- 36:02Nobody, 0 people, especially if you have Starlink, like there's
- 36:06no reason. And also the Department of
- 36:07Defense is like they're, they're like salivating over Starlink.
- 36:14So there's no reason why they can't find a way to reuse these
- 36:18things as soon as possible. When will they do it?
- 36:22I'm not 100% sure. I hope it's.
- 36:24I hope it's in the next few flights.
- 36:28That'd be great. Yeah.
- 36:32They have more ships. Yeah, Phillips just said they
- 36:33have more ships than booster that.
- 36:35Yeah. But you know, if they even if
- 36:39they do reuse a booster and it fails, they lose a ship.
- 36:45So they lose a ship in the process, unless of course, they
- 36:48are, you know, they separate. But if they're getting to Max Q,
- 36:52if they can't survive Max Q, then that ship is done.
- 36:55So is that risk worth it? I don't know, man.
- 37:00It seems it seems pretty risky to me.
- 37:02And I'm not like I'm always like, go, go, go do it fast, do
- 37:05it hard. Like just go SpaceX, go, you
- 37:08know, just go for it. I wanted to launch, but I'm also
- 37:12an engineer myself. So I know that like the work
- 37:15that you do to build these systems, even I do software, but
- 37:20like the, the work that you do to build these systems takes so
- 37:24long and it's such an effort to get everybody to do the work and
- 37:30for the the thing that work that you don't want to mess it up.
- 37:36You don't want to launch a product that's going to be buggy
- 37:40for software and you don't want to launch a rocket that's going
- 37:43to destroy your other part of the rocket.
- 37:45So building the booster, if they can figure out how to build
- 37:49boosters faster, that would be great, but I don't know it's
- 37:54it's going to be tough. That's a great question though.
- 37:56I, I think Phillip, that's a really great observation and a a
- 37:59really good talking point like when are they going to start
- 38:04reusing these things? Because we're used to Falcon
- 38:06nines, right? Like they reuse them all the
- 38:08time, but starships, we haven't seen one yet, but it's still,
- 38:14you know, 7th flight. It's still a very experimental
- 38:16rocket, super experimental rocket.
- 38:20So we don't know, you know, I, I wish I knew.
- 38:22I really do. I, I wish I knew when they're
- 38:24going to do it. I think it'd be great to
- 38:27speculate, but I don't I can't. I wish I could wish I knew more.
- 38:31I wish I knew more about the, about the flights, like the
- 38:37upcoming flights. So anyway, I think that's it for
- 38:44today. Everybody, I, we've covered
- 38:46pretty much everything for Flight 7.
- 38:47It's been postponed a little bit.
- 38:50So let's, let's go back to this. Let's just one more time.
- 38:52We'll reiterate there's going to be Rd. closures the 8th 2:00 PM
- 38:57to 5:00 PM, the 9th 12:00 AM to 3:00 AM and the 12:00 AM to 3:00
- 39:02AM. This is that one.
- 39:11Approved transportation operations for Hwy. 4 from
- 39:14factory to launchpad between 4:00 and 8:00 PM.
- 39:16Oh wait, that's the wrong one. I was like December 30th.
- 39:20No go back up there. Didn't I click the right one?
- 39:272:00 PM to 5:00 PM. OK there we go, it's this one.
- 39:31I scrolled down and I saw the wrong 1:12 AM to 3:00 PM from
- 39:39the factory to the launchpad. From 12:00 AM to 3:00 M,
- 39:43transport will take approximately 1 hour.
- 39:44The beach and Hwy. will remain open so expect some footage from
- 39:49people on the street down there. But SpaceX, Elon Musk has said
- 39:54more than likely it's going to happen next week.
- 39:57The flight's going to happen next week.
- 39:58Not this week, not in the 11th, but more than likely.
- 40:02He said next week. Give it a few days.
- 40:04So 1314 Fifteen 16th are available next week for flights
- 40:08of Starship. So it looks like Bezos and Blue
- 40:12Origin, Blue Origin, Pathfinder launch primary launch day, the
- 40:1810th of January, back up the 11th, 12th, 13th, 14th.
- 40:24Yeah, But there's always a possibility, There's always a
- 40:27possibility that Blue Origin, there's something wrong with the
- 40:32pad or there's high winds or something.
- 40:34So we'll see if Bezos beats Musk to orbit, baby, that's going to
- 40:41be a fight. Elon is not going to be happy.
- 40:44And especially if they land their booster, if if Bezos lands
- 40:51the booster and reuses it before Musk, oh, it's going to be a
- 40:54fight. Even though it's not the same
- 40:57rocket. We all know it's not the same
- 40:58rocket, but it's super heavy. So it's, you know, similar,
- 41:05similar rocket, but it would be, it would be nice if they did
- 41:09that. I want there to be competition.
- 41:11I don't want SpaceX to take it all because if there's
- 41:13competition, that means that SpaceX is going to work harder
- 41:15and they're going to build better ships in the future.
- 41:18So will Bezos, so will Blue Origin.
- 41:20That's just what happens. If there's competition,
- 41:22someone's going to try and take somebody out.
- 41:25How do you, how do you stop them from you know what, you build a
- 41:28better whatever. And that's what Bezos would do.
- 41:30Like the Origin would do that and SpaceX would do that too.
- 41:34So that's about all everybody, I, I appreciate you stopping by.
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- 42:20on Elon for 850 plus episodes well before his acquisition of
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