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Lieutenant Nate Muller - Child Safety · Look Who's Talking

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  You are listening to Look Who's Talking.
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  It's a new podcast and we are Head Start focused.
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  I am Cameron Minter.
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  I am your co-host and Jessica Coffie, our Head Start director, is the host of the show.
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  How you doing today?
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  Good morning y'all.
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  I'm here, Cam.
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  What are you talking about?
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  I'm here.
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  I didn't say nothing.
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  Oh my God.
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  You asked a new question.
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  I said the day was roses and rainbows.
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  See?
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  She's going to get it right.
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  Next.
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  Right.
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  Next show, we're going to be right.
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  You said I said I'm here, Cam.
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  Yeah.
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  She's...
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  But no, things are good.
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  I just came off of having a four week long cough.
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  Oh.
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  Like with allergies and the changing seasons.
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  See how quickly you want to say allergies.
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  Allergies.
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  We don't know what it was.
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  I got kicked out the office for a couple days.
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  Yes, of course.
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  I understand.
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  If you cough too long at Community Action...
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  It's over.
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  I mean it's anywhere.
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  You have to get out the office.
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  It's anywhere.
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  But you know what?
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  It was a good time.
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  I actually went to...
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  Just came back from a training in Puerto Rico where I trained other folks.
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  I can't stand you.
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  But guess what?
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  What?
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  Ask me, did I enjoy my time there?
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  Did you enjoy your time there?
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  No, I didn't because I was coughing.
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  Oh.
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  Like, it wasn't just a...
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  It was like a...
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  Oh my God.
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  So I didn't want to be around too many people.
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  Oh.
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  I got to look at the beach, but I really wasn't by the beach because I was too scared that
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  people were going to judge me for coughing.
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  Do you see this?
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  Yeah, your fingers rubbing together.
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  I'm playing the world's smallest violin.
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  All right.
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  What?
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  That was...
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  No one's feeling sorry for you for going to Puerto Rico and not feeling well.
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  Oh, Kim.
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  No one's feeling sorry for that.
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  You should have did the wonk, wonk, wonk.
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  Yeah, I know.
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  I didn't, I don't have my sound effects pulled up yet, but guess what happened to me?
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  What?
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  Okay.
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  I have found these rings.
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  Don't judge me.
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  Halftime workout, sometimes workout.
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  Okay.
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  So these apple, sour apple rings, they're like the peach rings.
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  Oh yeah, yeah.
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  I love the peach rings.
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  The sour apple?
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  Now, for those who don't know, I am a diabetic and there's no reason why me having
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  so many of these sour apple rings should be appropriate.
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  So I've had my fair share and I was chewing on one over the weekend and crunch.
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  I said, wait a minute, this is a gummy.
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  There should not be a crunch in here.
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  So when I spit it out to see what was going on, there lies a piece of my tooth.
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  Oh no.
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  Chipped inside.
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  The outside looks good, but the inside close to the tongue.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Chipped.
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  Oh no.
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  Cam, I would have been devastated.
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  I know.
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  And you was talking earlier before the show about our age and turning 40 and things happening.
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  Well, I'm in my fifties.
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  So yeah.
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  You're 51.
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  I'm 51.
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  You're 52.
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  I'm in my fifties.
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  So, you know, just add.
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  Sometimes it makes a difference where you are in the.
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  Yeah, I get you.
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  I get you.
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  But you said you wanted a manual for 40.
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  Well, here's the manual for 50.
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  Yeah.
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  You just chew gummy bears and your teeth fall out.
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  Listen, no one told me about the, just your body sounding like the Tin Man.
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  Not being able to sleep.
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  Right.
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  Waking up in the middle of the night to go to the restroom.
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  Come on.
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  Like a fun time for me now is going out to the restaurant and being home by nine o'clock.
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  What?
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  Because I want to be in the bed by nine thirty.
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  Well, yeah.
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  I mean, but you get up really early too.
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  So I don't get up early anymore, Cam.
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  Oh, OK.
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  Well, then there's no excuse.
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  I know.
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  Do you got your cup of water by the side of the bed?
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  Absolutely.
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  Doesn't everyone?
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  No.
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  We need to have a poll.
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  No.
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  I want to have a poll.
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  Do you have water on your nightstand?
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  But you have to you have to preface it with your age group.
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  Now, I want to go through the age group.
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  That's right.
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  That's what I'm saying.
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  Between 18 and 30, do you have water at your bedside?
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  And 40 and above or 30, 31 and above.
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  Do you have water by the bedside?
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  I think everyone has water.
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  It's an old thing.
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  I'm just here to let you know.
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  Do you have water?
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  Yes, I do, because I'm old.
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  The first thing I'm going to ask our guest is, does he have water?
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  OK, we're going to do that.
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  We're going to do that.
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  But since we've been so negative, since we've been so negative, I think it's time for a
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  coffee break.
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  OK.
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  So our coffee break today, what I want to say is stop for a moment and focus on the
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  good.
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  There's a lot to be grateful for.
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  You just have to let yourself see it.
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  And since we started the show a little bit negative, let's talk about something positive.
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  Tell me something positive that is going on with you right now.
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  Positive going on with me right now.
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  Or something you're grateful for.
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  I'm grateful for family.
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  My mother-in-law just celebrated her 82nd birthday.
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  Wow.
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  I mean, you know, they say you might get 75 years.
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  So celebrating 80 plus, everything is a blessing after that.
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  Yeah, I agree.
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  Yeah, that's just good.
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  And being able to celebrate with family.
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  We got a new grandbaby.
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  So, you know, it's all Spool City right now.
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  He got shots yesterday.
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  Oh, I'm sure he cried.
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  He did the second shot, though.
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  The girl was she was trying to put him in quick, though.
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  She was like, boop, boop.
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  But yeah, he teared up a little bit.
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  But grateful for family.
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  So how about you?
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  I am grateful for.
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  You know what, I'm grateful for family as well.
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  But specifically in this season, this comes in a season where we've lost a lot of family
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  members in our family.
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  However, we are still trying to celebrate the greatness of those people and what they
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  meant in our lives.
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  So just again, family and being able to celebrate others, because you know, I like a good celebration.
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  I know it.
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  Ain't that it?
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  With food.
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  I'll be like, Kim, guess what?
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  I feel good tomorrow at work.
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  Can you wear purple?
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  We're all going to wear the same color.
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  They're ridiculous.
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  Yes, yes.
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  I love it.
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  Well, I am so glad that we finally switched the mood.
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  You know, we tried, but we, you know, we switched the mood.
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  But this is going to be a moody conversation anyway.
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  It is.
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  It is.
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  But it's an important moody conversation that we need to have.
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  We who do we have on the show today?
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  Today, we have Lieutenant Nate Muller with the Lexington Police Department.
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  He is actually, Kim, one of our, may I say, consistent policy council members.
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  What?
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  Yes.
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  So Lieutenant Nate Muller, welcome to the show.
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  Thank you very much.
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  I'm excited to be here and glad to be able to share a little information with you guys.
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  So let me say this.
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  As long as Lieutenant Muller has been on our policy council, this is the first time we've
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  met in person.
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  Oh, wow.
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  Yeah, because of that day going COVID.
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  We have virtual meetings now, but it's really good to finally see you in person, meet you
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  in person.
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  Yeah, same here.
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  And I'm excited to be the first one to answer your poll question.
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  Yes.
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  Yes.
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  I am in my 40s.
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  I am 42 years old and I absolutely have water.
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  Every night there's water by my bed.
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  There's nothing worse than waking up, you know, the night, dry throat, can't go back
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  to bed.
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  It's terrible.
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  But from my point, when did you start doing that?
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  Oh, it was probably a little before my 40s.
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  But as soon as I got into the 40s, it was like water is not optional.
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  Like you are not getting a good night's sleep if you don't have water.
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  Do you hear that?
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  Forty.
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  That's where it happened.
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  All right.
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  Well, we've got a very serious topic we want to talk about today and it's child safety,
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  children's safety.
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  You know, this is a Head Start focused podcast and we just feel that it's important that
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  we celebrate, well not celebrate, but we talk about these things that are vital for the
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  safety of our children.
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  Yeah.
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  Safety.
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  There are all different aspects of safety.
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  So can you tell us some of the, I guess, not the things with safety that come across in
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  your office more often, the things that people aren't necessarily doing right?
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  Yeah, absolutely.
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  And just to reemphasize, I'm so grateful to be asked to be here as a guest.
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  Too often, you know, the police department kind of gets, we'll get a call when either
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  something's happened or there's been an allegation that something's happened.
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  So any of these opportunities that we get to come and talk about some safety points
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  and some preventative measures that families can do, that they can teach their kids to
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  try to keep their kids safe, and that is worth every minute.
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  Yeah.
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  Having a conversation about that.
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  Because guess what?
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  There's not a, well I don't think there's a manual with raising children and making
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  sure that your house is safe.
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  And you know, when you think about all of that, there's so many things to take into
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  consideration.
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  Yeah.
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  So yeah.
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  Yeah, it can be overwhelming.
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  Absolutely.
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  Especially as a parent, I've got three kids and I've got one preteen and then two teenagers
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  now.
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  Oh wow.
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  And yeah, you think, you know, you know, as a baby, hey, here's some ways I can childproof
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  my house, you know, put the little bumpers around the sharp objects and stuff.
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  But you start getting a teenager and then they're going out in the world and things
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  change.
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  Things change quite a bit.
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  So let me ask this.
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  Were you as cautious with the second and third child as you were with the first child?
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  Oh no, number three got away with everything.
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  She got away with everything.
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  Oh, she fell off the bed.
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  She'll be okay.
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  You're good.
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  Put some dirt on it.
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  She's tough though.
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  She's tough.
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  I always tell a story.
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  I was always worried about her because my son was a little bit older.
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  He's like four or five years older and she was playing with a little truck, little plastic
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  truck and my son went over there and he kind of, I could see him eyeballing it.
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  I was like, I better step in.
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  I was like, I'm going to wait and he went to reach for it and she jerked it away and
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  smacked him in the side of the head.
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  I was like, oh no, yes, she'll be okay.
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  Let's take care of herself.
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  She'll be all right.
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  She is all right.
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  So let's get back to what are like some of the, say let's maybe top two or three health
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  and safety issues that you might be seeing.
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  Absolutely.
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  There's been a big change in the conversation about child safety.
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  You know, when we're talking about being in forties, when we were growing up, it was all
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  stranger danger.
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  You know, that was the big key word.
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  Everybody grew up learning about stranger danger and there were some good stuff that
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  really came from that.
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  But at the same time, what people have found out since then is that it can also, there
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  can be a negative side.
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  It can kind of instill fear in kids thinking like, oh, everybody's out to get me.
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  You know, I can't even talk to the person at the, you know, asking for my order at McDonald's.
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  If a white man comes up, did y'all's parents ever say that to y'all or was that just a
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  country Paducah thing?
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  That was a country Paducah thing.
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  We was on lookout for everything.
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  Yeah, we were on lookout for everything, but I walked to school in elementary school.
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  I walked to school.
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  I was a latchkey kid.
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  I was staying at home probably at an age I shouldn't have been staying home.
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  But it was look for a white van.
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  If you see a white van with no windows, run.
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  Lord have mercy.
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  No wonder you scarred.
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  But what are some other things?
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  Yeah, so a lot of the transition has come from moving kids away from that idea of, hey,
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  you need to be afraid of everybody that you don't know.
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  Because statistically, a lot of bad things that happen with kids happen with people that
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  they do know.
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  So setting in safety rules that give them the confidence to be able to say, you know,
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  I have the right to be safe.
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  I have the right to protect my body instills that kind of confidence so that if something
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  does happen to them or if somebody is trying to lead them down a road that's going to be
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  dangerous, they have the confidence and they know I can stand up for myself.
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  I can speak up for myself and I can go to somebody who's going to be able to help me
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  with the situation.
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  One of the first ones that we talk about is this idea of check first.
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  And it's this idea that, you know, before you go and do something before you go to a
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  different place, especially for younger kids, you know, like your head start age kids, you
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  know, teach them it might be okay to go do that.
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  Like if you're at the jungle gym and you're going to go to the slides, it's probably perfectly
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  fine to do that.
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  But, but take a second and check first.
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  And the idea, you know, we've moved away from stranger and kind of started talking about
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  something a lot of people call tricky people, you know, starting talking to kids about that
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  they're most of the people in the world are good people.
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  They love kids.
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  They're going to try to help kids out any way they can.
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  But there's also tricky people and tricky people are people who will try to trick you
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  into doing something you're not supposed to do or something that's not safe for you.
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  And so giving kids kind of this, this mindset of, you know, here's some of the tricks that
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  a tricky person might use to try to get you to do something that's not safe.
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  And then going through some scenarios with them, you know, it might be there's one called
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  the animal trick.
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  You know, if you're at a park and somebody comes up, Hey, you know, I've got a puppy.
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  You want to, you want to see the puppy, you know, that kind of thing.
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  You're teaching them, it might be okay to go see a puppy, but you need to check with
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  your adult first.
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  If you're at school, you need to check with your teacher first and how important that
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  is.
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  Well, we're going to come back and we've got some more to talk about because as you were
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  talking, I begin to see the videos that I've seen of children being snatched off the street
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  for what is called, where they take them and use them for sexual things and things of that
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  nature.
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  But how to protect for that?
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  Yeah, traffic.
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  Yeah, traffic.
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  Yeah.
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  That, that kind of got me because you have to really be aware of your surroundings.
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  Yeah.
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  All right.
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  We are talking with Nate Muller and we will return right after this break.
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  You're listening to Look Who's Talking, and we are talking with Nate Mohler with the election
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  and police department, and we're talking about child safety today.
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  All right, before we went to the break, I brought up something that I'm not even sure
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  we can talk about, but we talked about trafficking and how quickly that can just change in the
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  moment of an eye.
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  Is that something that we're experiencing here in Lexington?
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  Maybe not, but just maybe some tips to help us avoid that tragedy.
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  Yeah, absolutely.
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  Fortunately we don't see a whole lot of the stereotypic like we're talking about.
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  The white van pulls up, somebody jumps out, grabs a kid off the street and takes off with
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  them.
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  Fortunately, very fortunately, we're not seeing a whole lot of that.
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  But the safety tips, the really good part about teaching kids safety tips is it prepares
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  them for worst case scenario, it prepares them for bullying incidents, thinking safely, being
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  aware of their surroundings, knowing where they are, being with somebody.
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  All of those things can be huge preventative tips for that absolute worst case, parents
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  worst nightmare scenario.
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  Right.
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  That's what it is.
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  And this is just being aware.
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  I think if you prepare generally for, you have to be aware of your surroundings that
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  it spills over in other areas that may not be totally specifically addressed.
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  Right.
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  And we are in a point in society to where you have to take all of that into consideration
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  in doing daily activities, going to the grocery store, going to school, work, church, wherever.
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  Watching TV.
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  Being aware of your surroundings and safety.
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  I think this topic is so broad, it's hard to narrow down everything we can talk about.
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  But I do want to go to just talking about the safety in the actual home.
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  What are some of the things that you have been seeing that may have been just increasing
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  incidences that could happen at home?
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  Yeah.
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  Home safety.
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  I mean, you think about how much time kids spend at home and increasing the safety and
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  the awareness of parents.
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  You know, we talk about we want to make our kids aware.
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  Well, sometimes it's also about making adults aware.
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  And we're not always the greatest about being aware of dangers in our society and in our
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  in our environments or even in our home.
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  One thing that tragically we do see and one is way too too many, but is is co sleeping
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  incidents where a child may be hurt or maybe there may even be a fatality involving some
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  kind of a sleeping incident with a child.
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  And there's a lot of really good information about there about the best ways to stay safe.
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  And when you have young kids, especially we're talking like one month up to one year old,
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  that's really that you know, the kids aren't aren't generally strong enough to be able
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  to to move something if it falls on top of them.
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  They're not really strong enough to be able to turn away from something if something's
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  up against their face.
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  So you know, the like the American Academy of Pediatrics has some great information out
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  there about, hey, what's the what's the best way for kids, these infants to stay safe when
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  they're in sleeping situations?
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  And we definitely talk talk about those things, especially see it's an infant death syndrome
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  with our families, because we want them to know, you know, what not only what we do at
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  the centers, whereas we're not having like toys in the crib and heavy blankets, pillows,
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  things like that.
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  But also educating them, you want this for your home, too.
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  You want to make sure that whether it's crib safety, car safety, all of that, that's covered.
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  So it's good to know that we are in lines with what you all have been teaching people.
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  Yeah.
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  And especially in the homes, it can be difficult.
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  You know, my kids are older now.
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  But man, I can remember when they were babies and we were just exhausted.
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  I mean, all the time, 24 7, we were just zombies walking around.
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  And you know, you have a newborn and you're feeding and then you fall asleep and then
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  the baby's there.
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  And it just takes the more times we can talk about it, the better.
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  Just to remind people, hey, the safest thing is for that child.
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  It's good for them to be in the room, but to have their own designated sleeping space.
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  And like you mentioned, not having blankets in there, making sure that's a firm surface.
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  Not having big bulky pillows or even big stuffed animals or anything.
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  That's really from from all the data out there, that's the safest way to keep a baby sleeping
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  safely.
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  And another thing we touch base on in the program is, you know, when you change routine,
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  I talked a little bit about car safety and we, you know, go to making sure your car seats
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  are safe.
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  Strapped in how they are supposed to be.
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  However, we have something in place to where if we do not, if a child doesn't come to our
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  center and we haven't heard from the parent, like within an hour, we give them a call because
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  sometimes parents routine change.
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  And instead of mom taking them, it could be dad.
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  Did you check the backseat to make sure that you got the child out the car?
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  And, you know, I hear people, you know, sometimes say, I couldn't forget a child in the backseat.
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  But if the child is sleep, that's not your normal routine.
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  You go to work as normal and forget, oh, my schedule is changed today.
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  Then, you know, that's something that could happen.
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  Yeah, that's that's awful.
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  That's awful.
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  And I'm not a big talker in the morning.
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  So you be in the car with me and we won't say a word, not a word.
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  But I understand that.
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  But another thing that I want us to touch on is Internet safety with with children.
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  It's surprising to me that we have parental controls on these devices.
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  And just for an example, when we were younger, it was much harder to have access to inappropriate
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  things.
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  Because we didn't have any of it.
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  Well, I mean, even even to go to a movie, you know what I'm saying?
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  You you you know, you had to bring a parent or get the OK.
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  Even magazines, because that's what it was at that time.
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  Magazines you had to be a certain age.
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  You know what I'm saying?
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  So but they have access at the palm of their hands.
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  And so I think it's important that we also look at the child's safety and what the child
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  is looking at, because there are predators who are looking to get access to your kids
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  through the things that they like.
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  Have you experienced any?
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  I'm sure you have, you know, at the at a later age.
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  But I just think it's important that we talk about using those parental controls so that
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  you understand or know what's going on, because even even some things that we think are safe
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  are introducing things to our children that let them wait a minute.
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  Yeah.
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  What's going on here?
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  And again, I think that the the conversations about these things, we can't have too many
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  conversations about it as a society, about about the dangers of the stuff that can that
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  can be introduced to kids early at an early age.
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  I see the reports that come through, unfortunately, all the time every week.
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  And it's amazing how young kids can be impacted by online predation from from people who are
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  who are unfortunately out there looking.
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  And, you know, none of us would probably ever leave our homes and just or be in our homes
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  with our doors wide open and just sitting wide open, unlocked or leave our homes.
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  But we will sometimes allow our kids to walk around with a phone that's unlocked.
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  There's no security measures on it or a tablet.
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  And so thinking about, yeah, that's that's an open door for somebody to be able to get
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  to that kid.
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  And there's there's some great programs out there.
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  There's some great safeguards in place.
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  But it all comes down to parents being educated about them, knowing how to use them, knowing
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  what what apps are on their kids phones or on the tablets that they have in their home
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  and knowing what it is and asking the questions and talking to the kids and being like, hey,
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  I'm not if something happens, like, I'm not going to be mad at you.
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  But I need to know.
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  Like, so I can help you because predators will use they'll use shame.
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  They'll use guilt.
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  They'll use threats or fear to be able to kind of worm their way in parents.
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  They are guardians there.
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  You know, a grand grandfather, grandmother, somebody that's saying, hey, you know, you
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  can come to me if something's going on.
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  You call me.
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  Come and we'll talk about this and figure this out.
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  That's so important is just keeping open the lines of communication.
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  And because they have access to so much, we have to be, you know, vigilant, vigilant and
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  keeping sure that we know what's going on with our children.
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  I know sometimes that just letting them look at a cartoon or whatever is peace between
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  you and the child, but we also need to be watching and keeping aware of what our children
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  are seeing.
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  I think it's really good that we were having these conversations and we really thank you
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  for being on the show today.
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  It's been a great pleasure.
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  Hopefully we take some nuggets from these discussions.
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  I'm a big fan of the podcast.
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  I'm glad to be here on one of the early ones.
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  So when this explodes and you've got hundreds of thousands of followers every week, then
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  I was there.
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  We want the whole Lexington Police Department to watch this podcast.
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  And we're talking about important information that folks need to know whether you are a
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  parent or you're not.
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  I'm everybody's auntie, but this is information I need to know.
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  So when I keep my nieces and nephews, they will be safe.
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