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The Bolt Report | 6 June · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: Us the report.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good evening, coming up on the show tonight, Channel
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  Speaker 2: nine chairman and former Federal Treasurer Pete Costello pushes a
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  Speaker 2: journalist to the ground at Canberra Airport.
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  Speaker 3: Well you've got to answer your questions, mister.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Peter Costello has just addressed the media. We'll have
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  Speaker 2: more on that shortly. Plus State of Origin football is
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  Speaker 2: back and so are concerns about brain injuries after a
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  Speaker 2: Queensland player was knocked out cold. And the Spanish government
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  Speaker 2: wants to open an embassy in Palestine.
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  Speaker 4: But here's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: Spanish diplomats, well they want to be accommodated in Israel,
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  Speaker 2: but first, Anthony Albanese's commitment to fighting anti Semitism lasted
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  Speaker 2: twenty four hours, just long enough to get his beleagued
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  Speaker 2: Immigration Minister Andrew Giles off the front page. Is that
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  Speaker 2: too cynical an observation, I hope. So yesterday Albanese stood
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  Speaker 2: shoulder to shoulder with Peter Dutton calling out antisemitism and
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  Speaker 2: in particular the Greens contribution to it. I'll get to
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  Speaker 2: the Greens in a moment, but here's Anthony Albanesi yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: There is no place for anti Semitism, prejudice of any sort,
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  Speaker 5: Islamophobia in our communities, at our universities or outside electorate offices.
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  Speaker 2: Here here, But today the PM shut down a debate
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  Speaker 2: on holding an inquiry into antisemitism on university campuses, proving
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  Speaker 2: once again there are actions and there are words, and
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to fighting antisemitism, Albanezi is all talk.
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  Speaker 2: Liberal MP Julian Lisa called for an inquiry to investigate
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  Speaker 2: whether the response to antisemitism on campuses had been adequate.
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  Speaker 4: Here he is speaking this morning.
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  Speaker 6: The massive increase in campus antisemitism since October seven has
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  Speaker 6: included Jewish students being spat at and taunted with swastikas,
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  Speaker 6: the office of Jewish staff members being urinated on, academics
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  Speaker 6: saying that Jews don't deserve cultural safety, academics denying that
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  Speaker 6: the rapes on seven October even occurred, the failure of
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  Speaker 6: university leaders to deal properly with antisemitism, including dealing with encampments,
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  Speaker 6: vice chancellors implying that hate field protests are just the
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  Speaker 6: price Jewish students have to pay for free speech, and
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  Speaker 6: a collective statement from thirty nine university chancellors which was
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  Speaker 6: so weak it didn't even mention the words jew or antisemitism, but.
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  Speaker 2: The government, which just a day earlier had been all
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  Speaker 2: shook up over antisemitism, voted to delay any inquiry, preferring
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  Speaker 2: that if something was done, it'd be a little more
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  Speaker 2: you know, shall we say, broad, by which I'm mean
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  Speaker 2: less focused on Jews. Labour wants a general anti racism
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  Speaker 2: inquiry that well, look at how Jews are being treated,
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  Speaker 2: for sure, but also how Muslims are being treated, how
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  Speaker 2: the Indigenous are being treated, and I suppose how any
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  Speaker 2: other group is being treated, the effect of which, and
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  Speaker 2: I dare say the goal would be to dilute the
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  Speaker 2: problem of anti Semitism. Julian Lisa was understandably outraged.
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  Speaker 6: Can I say, as a Jewish Australian, I am so
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  Speaker 6: sick and tired of this government, the Human Rights Commission,
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  Speaker 6: universities and other bodies in Australia being unable to say
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  Speaker 6: antisemitism without saying Islamophobia in the same breath, to fail
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  Speaker 6: to singularly identify and call out the particularity of antisemitism.
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  Speaker 6: And indeed the largest increase in antisemitism in our history
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  Speaker 6: in and of itself is antisemitic.
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  Speaker 4: Julian Lisa is absolutely right.
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  Speaker 2: We don't hear politicians say there's no room for racism
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  Speaker 2: against blacks or whites. We don't hear them, so there's
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  Speaker 2: no room for bigotry against gays or straits. We don't
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  Speaker 2: hear them say there's no place for hate against trans
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  Speaker 2: people or women. And we don't hear them say there's
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  Speaker 2: no place for vilifying Muslims or Catholics. But every time
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  Speaker 2: they mention anti Semitism, they feel compelled to provide balance
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  Speaker 2: by also mentioning Islamophobia.
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  Speaker 5: There is no place for any Semitism, prejudice of any
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  Speaker 5: sort Islamophobia.
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  Speaker 7: What there's no place for is anti Semitism or Islamophobia.
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  Speaker 8: So there is at the moment legal protection against anti Semitism.
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  Speaker 8: What I will say though, is at the moment, at
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  Speaker 8: a national level, we have no legal protections on Islamophobia.
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  Speaker 5: Anti Semitism has no place in Australia. Islamophobia has no
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  Speaker 5: place in Australia.
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  Speaker 9: Latin anti semitism and as Islamophobia.
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  Speaker 5: I'm very concerned about the rise in anti Semitism. I'm
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  Speaker 5: concerned about ISLAMOPHOBI be.
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  Speaker 2: Seriously, when you're trying to provide balance to the issue
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  Speaker 2: of due hatred. Well, as Julian Lisa pointed out, that's
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  Speaker 2: how you hate on Jews even as you pretend to
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  Speaker 2: condemn the hatred of Jews. Green's leader Adam Bant, well,
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  Speaker 2: he's a classic at it.
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  Speaker 10: The Greens condemn anti Semitism, the Greens condemn Islamophobia, the
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  Speaker 10: Greens condemn the invasion of Gaza.
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  Speaker 2: Now both major parties called out the Greens yesterday for
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  Speaker 2: stirring up hateful pro Palestinian rallies. The Prime Minister was
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  Speaker 2: particularly incense, but Adam Bant Well, he claims he's done
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  Speaker 2: nothing wrong.
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  Speaker 11: Protesters have been blockading Anthony Albanese's electoral office in Marrickville,
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  Speaker 11: in Sydney's in a West all year and the PM
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  Speaker 11: has had enough.
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  Speaker 4: Enough is enough.
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  Speaker 11: Anthony Albaneze has accused Green senators and MPs herb.
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  Speaker 5: Engaged in this in demonstrations outside offices, and your.
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  Speaker 11: Online Green's leader Adam bant insists MPs from his party
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  Speaker 11: have not been involved in pro Palestinian protests at the
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  Speaker 11: offices of Labour, MPs Queen's.
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  Speaker 12: And Peace have not been involved in that.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, mister Bank, your own deputy leader made a video
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  Speaker 2: back in February standing right outside the Prime Minister's office
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  Speaker 2: urging people to get down there for around the clock protest.
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  Speaker 13: I have the me from the Greens is incredible.
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  Speaker 14: Pef from Families for Palestine PSA, Justice for Palestine and
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  Speaker 14: Palestine Action Rule are picketing outside the Prime Minister's office
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  Speaker 14: to again give him a very strong message that lever
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  Speaker 14: is complicity and power you in this mission of genocide
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  Speaker 14: that Israel is conducting against Palestinians. So please come and
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  Speaker 14: join them outside runs to Havnisi's office.
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  Speaker 2: So contrary to Adam Bant's protestations, clearly the Greens have
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  Speaker 2: been encouraging pro Palestinian protesters to picket MP's electric officers
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  Speaker 2: the Prime.
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  Speaker 4: Ministers no less.
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  Speaker 2: Now notice in the video that Adam Bant's deputy leader
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  Speaker 2: specifically mentions the Palestine Action Group calling them incredible people. Well,
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  Speaker 2: here's some of those incredible people spreading love and harmony
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  Speaker 2: in Sydney's Hyde Park on Sunday.
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  Speaker 15: This colony is literally being run by genocidal maniacs, these
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  Speaker 15: soulss politicians that celebrate indigenous blood being spelt on a
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  Speaker 15: daily basis. Whether that's how uneasy, the war criminal.
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  Speaker 16: Whether that's Penny wrong, be Gaza Butcher, whether that's Chris
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  Speaker 16: means the genocidal maniac. We will never forget how you
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  Speaker 16: celebrated the Palestinian genocide in nineteen forty eight while defending
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  Speaker 16: the Guys in Geneside and twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 2: Four, this same group, whom the Greens Deputy leader called
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  Speaker 2: brave and courageous, then went on to praise Hamas.
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  Speaker 17: They declared parinolius he are in so called Australia and
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  Speaker 17: in Guys are they are peating, but they are freeing
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  Speaker 17: the Palestinian people from Hamas, which, no matter what you
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  Speaker 17: think of them, are the only current entity fighting for
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  Speaker 17: the Palestinian people.
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  Speaker 2: And of course no peaceful gathering of concerned citizens would
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  Speaker 2: be complete without a good old fashioned chant honoring terrorists
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  Speaker 2: as glorious martyrs.
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  Speaker 1: Glory, glory.
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  Speaker 2: The Greens support these groups, The Greens promote these groups.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me again how they're fit to be in parliament.
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  Speaker 2: So when Anthony Albaneze was asked today if he would
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  Speaker 2: rule out any future deals to form government with the
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  Speaker 2: help of the Greens, what do you think he said, Well,
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  Speaker 2: he didn't rule it out, did he always politics, never principle.
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  Speaker 2: He's not called each way elbow for nothing. Well, let's
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  Speaker 2: bring in shadow Veterans Affairs Minister Barnaby. Joyce Barnaby, great
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  Speaker 2: to have you here. How would you describe the Greens
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  Speaker 2: behavior in relation to anti Semitism and their contribution to
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  Speaker 2: social cohesion?
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  Speaker 7: Well I wrote a piece for Facebook on regards D
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  Speaker 7: Day today. The trouble one of the scariest things about
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  Speaker 7: Germany at the time with fascism is it very well
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  Speaker 7: educated and otherwise erudite people got sucked into a process
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  Speaker 7: which led to the most profane, demonic, mechanized murder of
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  Speaker 7: millions of people in the history of the world, not
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  Speaker 7: just the Jews, but the Gypsies as well, and Gaze
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  Speaker 7: and Russians and the mentally infirmed. And now we have
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  Speaker 7: the Greens of cheering for us to put our head
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  Speaker 7: on this snake in the human games and snakes and
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  Speaker 7: ladders again. People have really got to understand exactly, in
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  Speaker 7: reflection on today, exactly where the Australian Greens Party is
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  Speaker 7: and really make it, really make a choice. What is
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  Speaker 7: happening here is not unique. What is happening here has
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  Speaker 7: happened before. And when it happened before, everybody said, don't
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  Speaker 7: worry about it, that they're just crazy nothing, it's going
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  Speaker 7: to go nowhere.
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  Speaker 12: Well, you better worry about it.
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  Speaker 7: And if you don't worry about it because of yourself,
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  Speaker 7: worry about it out of respect for the freedoms of
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  Speaker 7: your nation, which we're paid for by the blood of others.
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  Speaker 7: And if you went back to those people who landed
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  Speaker 7: on that beat whorlanded on those beachy Americans. But remember
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  Speaker 7: there's about three thousand Australian airmen who are also flying
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  Speaker 7: over there. Remember Australians were killed on d Day, you
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  Speaker 7: know they were in the cover of the troops, were
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  Speaker 7: flying in the Air Force and said to them, oh well,
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  Speaker 7: later on some really you know, sort of suave dressed,
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  Speaker 7: chip on the shoulder, well educated people under this new
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  Speaker 7: nominal party called the Greens political Party will start giving cover,
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  Speaker 7: giving support for exactly what you're fighting against.
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  Speaker 12: For exactly what you're fighting against.
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  Speaker 7: I think that they would be a lot more direct
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  Speaker 7: in saying, for the sake of us, just be completely clinical,
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  Speaker 7: straight down the line and call it out for what
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  Speaker 7: it is.
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  Speaker 18: It is.
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  Speaker 12: Adding semitism.
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  Speaker 7: We have not got an issue with people at universities
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  Speaker 7: with putting up tents about, you know, wanting people of
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  Speaker 7: the Islamic faith out of Australia. That is not happening now.
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  Speaker 7: So Islamophobia is not an issue now. Anti Semitism most precisely.
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  Speaker 7: And I'm not Jewish, I'm a good old rock chopper,
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  Speaker 7: but I am from a family who have had so
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  Speaker 7: many people who have served and it's disgraceful. What the
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  Speaker 7: Greens are doing is disgraceful. And for people to give
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  Speaker 7: them any sort of succer, any sort of leniency in
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  Speaker 7: sort of acerbic understanding of exactly what they're doing, well,
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  Speaker 7: not only are you a fool, you're also in a
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  Speaker 7: slight way complicit.
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  Speaker 2: And barnaby, what about Labor denying Julian Lisa's call for
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  Speaker 2: an inquiry into an on campus anti semitism, combined with
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  Speaker 2: the PM's failure to rule out a deal with the
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  Speaker 2: Greens in the future, what does that tell you about
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  Speaker 2: labor and Anthony Albanesi's real priorities.
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  Speaker 7: Well, he's no courtin or chiefly is he He's certainly
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  Speaker 7: not a hawk. What worries me is I know that
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  Speaker 7: I dig that I reckon that he would like to
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  Speaker 7: have done it right. What always worries me more though,
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  Speaker 7: is he's too weak to do it. And it's this
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  Speaker 7: through more and more and more. It's the weakness of
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  Speaker 7: the Prime Minister, the person who says he's a great boxer,
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  Speaker 7: but when he gets into the ring, he'll just never
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  Speaker 7: ever take a hit. He just refuses to ever get
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  Speaker 7: in close, to ever come to the crunch and call
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  Speaker 7: something out.
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  Speaker 12: And this is what's happening.
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  Speaker 7: Like someone in the back room has gotten his ear
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  Speaker 7: and said, if you don't do this, you know, we'll
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  Speaker 7: be really unhappy with you. And then he comes out
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  Speaker 7: and he's going to you know, he's just so brave,
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  Speaker 7: so brave, and then of course he's not. And what
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  Speaker 7: worries me about Prome Minster Albaneze is he's weak. And
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  Speaker 7: that is becoming so abundantly clear to everybody.
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  Speaker 2: And when you're dealing with anti Semitism, you can't equivocate
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  Speaker 2: and you can't be weak. You've got to be strong
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  Speaker 2: on it. As Peter Dutton has been, Barnaby, you want
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  Speaker 2: to go to another subject.
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  Speaker 7: You've got to basically got to say you've got basically
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  Speaker 7: you've got to basically get to a point there's got
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  Speaker 7: a great differentiation of people in politics. Is this whether
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  Speaker 7: you agree with him or not. Every now and then
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  Speaker 7: you'll see politicians you say, mate, that might cost you
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  Speaker 7: your job what you just said then, but you know,
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  Speaker 7: obviously you believe in it, and you're straight down the barrel. Now,
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  Speaker 7: respect that person whomever they are, because they're being straight with.
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  Speaker 12: You and there's no equivocation.
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  Speaker 7: Therefore you're getting a clarity view of their political views
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  Speaker 7: and their character. But when someone's always on the side
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  Speaker 7: of friendliness, always on the side of you know, bright
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  Speaker 7: puffy clouds and beautiful, beautiful, shining babies, but when you
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  Speaker 7: get difficult issue, they know her to be seen or
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  Speaker 7: they're having.
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  Speaker 12: A bed each ways, they're weak. Be careful of them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, some good old conviction politics would be a wonderful
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  Speaker 2: thing to see again in this country. Speaking of convictions
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  Speaker 2: or lack thereof what's going on in Victoria. The state's
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  Speaker 2: energy Minister, Lily Diambrosio. She insisted there was no role
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  Speaker 2: for gas in Victoria's energy transition, and she's repeatedly said
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  Speaker 2: that there's a gas shortage in the state. But now
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  Speaker 2: lo and behold, she's approved a new gas extraction project
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  Speaker 2: at the first one in ten year.
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  Speaker 7: Well, this is what happens with colts, isn't it. In
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  Speaker 7: the end, when the colt says that you know, something
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  Speaker 7: will descend from the clouds on a certain day and
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  Speaker 7: a certain day arrives and nothing descends, or the world
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  Speaker 7: will come to an end on a certain day and
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  Speaker 7: a certain day arrives and the world hasn't come to
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  Speaker 7: an end, then all the other constructions they've made in
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  Speaker 7: that cult community become apparently ridiculous and in perverse. Now
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  Speaker 7: what we have and we're seeing it also with Penny
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  Speaker 7: Sharp is the Penny Sharp in New South Wales. They
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  Speaker 7: are beside themselves because the power goes off there and
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  Speaker 7: the lifts stop in Sydney and people have to go
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  Speaker 7: to the bathroom and the lift that they're in it
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  Speaker 7: with their fellow workmates because the lift doors don't work
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  Speaker 7: and all the traffic shuts down.
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  Speaker 12: That is the day that the intermittent.
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  Speaker 7: Power phenomenon will come to an end and reality will come.
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  Speaker 12: Screaming up through the door.
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  Speaker 7: Now down in Victoria, they always say themselves the blue
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  Speaker 7: collar manufacturing state.
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  Speaker 12: They'll be the rust bucket state if they don't get
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  Speaker 12: some gas into the cyste them.
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  Speaker 7: Then what manufacturer would ever want to set up in
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  Speaker 7: Australia and test that theory out. If you don't believe me,
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  Speaker 7: which major global manufacturer wants to move to Australia. None,
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  Speaker 7: because they think we're off our heads. They think we
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  Speaker 7: are certifiably economically on the economic premise insane. We're economically insane.
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  Speaker 7: We're going to run an economy on a windmill and
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  Speaker 7: solar panels.
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  Speaker 12: And they just go and say, well, off the heads.
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  Speaker 7: But you know, just tell them they're doing a great
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  Speaker 7: job and it's all going to work out splendidly, and
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  Speaker 7: then get the hell out of there and find another
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  Speaker 7: country to set up in.
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  Speaker 2: Indeed, Barnaby just before you go, Today marks eighty years
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  Speaker 2: since the Allies landed in Normandy to liberate France during
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  Speaker 2: World War Two. You spoke earlier about the fact three thousand,
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  Speaker 2: three hundred Australians were involved in that operation.
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  Speaker 4: That's an important day to remember.
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  Speaker 12: Isn't it.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Austraiers were killed too, I think first two. I
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  Speaker 7: think it was about fifteen killed in the first day.
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  Speaker 7: It's incredibly important and if you want to see people
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  Speaker 7: who don't put an addendum onto their focus.
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  Speaker 12: Look at Dwight D.
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  Speaker 7: Eisenhower went on, as far as I'm concerned, to be
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  Speaker 7: probably the greatest president of the United States. These people
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  Speaker 7: what only was a totemic issue. A million troops, a
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  Speaker 7: million troops, just think them predominantly the United States, but
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  Speaker 7: also British, Polish, French, and Australian ammen.
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  Speaker 12: But this was to rid the world of a philosophy called.
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  Speaker 7: Fascism where boiler makers, fitters, and turners and farmers r
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  Speaker 7: up against boiler makers, fittis and turners and farmers, but
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  Speaker 7: just boiler makers, fit and turners and farmers with a
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  Speaker 7: polar opposite worldview, and fascism believe that you can murder
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  Speaker 7: Jews because old Jews murder Gypsies, murdered gays, murder Russians,
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  Speaker 7: execute people who had a mental incapacity. It was evil personified.
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  Speaker 7: And what is so great about this is this is
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  Speaker 7: when great people rose up and said we're going to
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  Speaker 7: deal with this.
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  Speaker 12: And it is certainly at.
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  Speaker 7: Such an incredible day, not just for us, but in
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  Speaker 7: the history of mankind, one of our highest points in
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  Speaker 7: the ten thousand years since we crawled out of a
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  Speaker 7: cave and decided we could try to learn and read
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  Speaker 7: and write.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well spoken, Barnaby, well spoken. Appreciate your time tonight,
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  Speaker 4: Well after the break.
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  Speaker 2: Concussion concerns back in the spotlight following last night's State
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  Speaker 2: of Origin game, I'll speak with a sports neurologist next.
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  Speaker 2: Plus Mayhem in court as a jura is arrested mid trial.
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  Speaker 4: All of that in a moment. Welcome back. Well.
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  Speaker 2: Rugby League's State of Origin kicked off last night with
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  Speaker 2: Game one of the series being played here in Sydney.
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  Speaker 2: Queensland beat the Blues easily, Go Queenslander. But today people
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  Speaker 2: weren't talking about the score. They were talking about this
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  Speaker 2: head high shot that saw Queensland star Reese Walsh knocked
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  Speaker 2: out cold in the first eight minutes of the game. Now,
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  Speaker 2: rugby league, and particularly State of Origin is famous for
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  Speaker 2: its big hits.
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  Speaker 4: It's one of the reasons we love it.
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  Speaker 2: And when the code opened its season in Las Vegas
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  Speaker 2: at the start of the year, that's exactly what was
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  Speaker 2: promoted to Americans.
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  Speaker 18: It's football, but not as you know it. No helmets,
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  Speaker 18: no paths, no timeouts. A national rugby league is unleashed
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  Speaker 18: for the very first time, and the entertainment capital of
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  Speaker 18: the world, Las Vegas, be there to witness the twenty
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  Speaker 18: twenty four season opening.
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  Speaker 2: Double had but a host of former players, including origin
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: great Wally Lewis and our battling brain injuries as a
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: result of concussions, and the NRL is facing costly legal
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: actions the same as happening in the AFL. So is
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: enough being done to protect players in our football codes?
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Joining me to discuss this is sports neurologist doctor Rowena Mobs.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: Doctor, thanks for joining me.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: You've worked a lot in this space, treating more than
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: forty NRL stars and other athletes. How concerning is a
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: tackle like what we saw last night?
• 20:12
  Speaker 19: Well, I think quite frankly, it was devastating and disappointing
• 20:15
  Speaker 19: all round, clearly for the player involved most importantly and
• 20:19
  Speaker 19: for the fans, and of course seeing a player sent off.
• 20:22
  Speaker 19: But I think the most devastating part was this brain
• 20:25
  Speaker 19: injury for Reese Walt. As a neurologist, what I see
• 20:28
  Speaker 19: is that he athletically dipped to pass the ball. He
• 20:32
  Speaker 19: was on an angle. He might have slipped into the
• 20:34
  Speaker 19: tackle a bit, but surely he was at full pelt
• 20:37
  Speaker 19: and we know that even seventy g's of force is
• 20:40
  Speaker 19: enough to cause a concussion, let alone up to one
• 20:42
  Speaker 19: hundred and eighty gs of force. And these sorts of
• 20:44
  Speaker 19: tackles that players face, now there were some red flags
• 20:48
  Speaker 19: in my mind, I believe from the footage, although I
• 20:51
  Speaker 19: wasn't there on the ground, there may have been some
• 20:54
  Speaker 19: tonic posturing we call it, or type of seizure activity
• 20:56
  Speaker 19: in response to the head injury. And one has to
• 20:59
  Speaker 19: one was this enough to cause a more severe, moderate
• 21:03
  Speaker 19: traumatic brain injury or bleed in the brain. And we
• 21:05
  Speaker 19: saw a really devastating result of these sorts of tackles
• 21:08
  Speaker 19: in New Zealand at the end of August. So in
• 21:11
  Speaker 19: August April a player died on the field from a
• 21:14
  Speaker 19: severe brain injury. So these types of high impact, high
• 21:17
  Speaker 19: risk tackles I think need to be stamped out of
• 21:20
  Speaker 19: the game. It's just too much.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: The NRL and AFL have put in some pretty strict
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: rules around head knocks, But is it enough what they've
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: done to this point or are you calling for more
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: to be done?
• 21:33
  Speaker 19: Well, there is always more to be done on this issue.
• 21:36
  Speaker 19: We want to try and prevent every head injury. Of
• 21:38
  Speaker 19: course we can't do that practically, but what seems to
• 21:40
  Speaker 19: be the case, and we saw it with Maynard Brayshaw
• 21:44
  Speaker 19: that was a career ending brain injury. You know, these
• 21:47
  Speaker 19: types of high impacts full the players at full pelt.
• 21:50
  Speaker 19: Do they need to go that hard? Can they still
• 21:52
  Speaker 19: play the game tough but without the devastating consequences of
• 21:56
  Speaker 19: neurological trauma? And you know we see that most rankingly
• 22:00
  Speaker 19: of course with CTE or these other sorts of more
• 22:03
  Speaker 19: severe brain injuries through our clinics every day, and so
• 22:07
  Speaker 19: this can be life altering. And there was such a
• 22:09
  Speaker 19: poignant picture at the end. I think of Walsh with
• 22:11
  Speaker 19: his daughter and life is more important than the game.
• 22:15
  Speaker 19: The game is wonderful, you know, we're fans of the
• 22:19
  Speaker 19: game and sport in general, but at the end of
• 22:22
  Speaker 19: the day, life is the priority, and we need to
• 22:24
  Speaker 19: focus on these players safety for their sake most importantly,
• 22:28
  Speaker 19: but also the longevity of these games.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: It is one more quick question and obviously you know
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: it's changing the attitudes of fans as to what they
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: should expect, but also what about players is a case
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: of protecting them from themselves because I mean players want
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: to play football.
• 22:44
  Speaker 19: Right of course, And you know I was a former athlete.
• 22:48
  Speaker 19: I get the competitiveness and they need to play sport
• 22:52
  Speaker 19: and win, but it's not win at all costs. And
• 22:55
  Speaker 19: I think we need to really scaffold a careful framework
• 22:58
  Speaker 19: of safety without preventing the fund and interest and enjoyment
• 23:01
  Speaker 19: of these games around players. And I know that the
• 23:03
  Speaker 19: government are looking at this, They're working hard, and I
• 23:06
  Speaker 19: believe there will be an announcement soon to better protect players,
• 23:10
  Speaker 19: care for them and work with stakeholders on this vital issue. Clearly,
• 23:15
  Speaker 19: we can do more, and we must protect the brains
• 23:17
  Speaker 19: of our children entering these sports, these wonderful sports, but
• 23:20
  Speaker 19: at the same time allow them a healthy brain for life.
• 23:23
  Speaker 19: And so that's the emphasis that I see as vital.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Now, Doctor rowing and Mobs, Thanks so much for your time.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Well now to some breaking news former treasurer and nine
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Network chairman Peter Costello, who has just responded to that
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: clash he had with a reporter at Canberra Airport this afternoon.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: The Australian's Liam Mendez was asking Costello questions about allegations
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: of bullying and harassment that have surrounded the nine network
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: in recent weeks, and this is how it unfolded.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Were you aware of the allegations against mister Wick before
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: he left nine.
• 23:59
  Speaker 20: Thank you?
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Were you aware of those allegations? Mister Corsilo? Why won't
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: you support mister sneezebe publicly good? Well, you've got to
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: answer the questions. Mister Castillo. You've just assaulted You've just
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: assaulted me.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you've seen what went down. Here's what pet
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Costello had to say. Just a short time ago.
• 24:28
  Speaker 13: When I came through camera airport, there was a reporter
• 24:31
  Speaker 13: walking backwards with his phone filming. As I walked past him,
• 24:36
  Speaker 13: he walked back into an advertising platcard and he fell over.
• 24:40
  Speaker 13: I did not strike him.
• 24:43
  Speaker 12: If he's upset about that, I'm sorry.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: So there you go. We'll have more on that later.
• 24:50
  Speaker 12: Well.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Green's leader Adam Bant has threatened to sue Attorney General
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Mark Dreyfus over remarks he made yesterday suggesting the Greens
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: have played a role in encouraging some times violent pro
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Palestinian protests.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: In a press conference earlier.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Today, Adam Bant reaffirmed his pro Palestine's stance and had
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: this to say about Mark Dreyfus.
• 25:11
  Speaker 10: My lawyers have written to the Attorney General regarding what
• 25:14
  Speaker 10: I consider to be defamatory statements he made about me
• 25:18
  Speaker 10: and the Greens yesterday. We've seen a desperate attempt from
• 25:22
  Speaker 10: Labor to distract from Labour's ongoing support the invasion of Gaza.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Now all of this, of course comes as Labor and
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: the Opposition unite to politically isolate the Greens, accusing them
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: of divisive anti Israel retric and of using the Israel
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: hamas water fuel societal division. Joining me now is legal
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: affairs columnists at The Australian and Vice president of the
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Rule of Law Institute.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: Chris Merrit Chris, thanks for joining me.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: What do you make of Adam Bant's threat to sue
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Mark Dreyfus? Do you think you'll follow through on it?
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: And if he does, what's the likely outcome?
• 25:58
  Speaker 21: Look, I'm make three point. First, I think it's very
• 26:03
  Speaker 21: unseemly for a former barrister that's mister Bant to be
• 26:08
  Speaker 21: threatening legal action against the first law officer of the
• 26:12
  Speaker 21: nation who happens to be Jewish. The second point I'd
• 26:16
  Speaker 21: make is that this could backfire on mister Bant in
• 26:21
  Speaker 21: a big way. He could finish up in much the
• 26:24
  Speaker 21: same way as Bruce Lherman, who initiated defamation proceedings which
• 26:30
  Speaker 21: backfired on him terribly. If he were to follow through
• 26:34
  Speaker 21: as his threat to sue, it would open the door
• 26:36
  Speaker 21: for mister Drayfus.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: To introduce all sorts.
• 26:39
  Speaker 21: Of material showing whether what he said was true or
• 26:44
  Speaker 21: whether it was a reasonable basis, Whether there was a
• 26:47
  Speaker 21: reasonable basis for his comments about mister Bant. There are
• 26:52
  Speaker 21: plenty of forums for politicians to argue these points, and
• 26:56
  Speaker 21: I think the courts are not one.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Of them with Adam Bant. Isn't the only reason Dreyfus
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: is in the spotlight this week, law firm Morris Blackburn
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: has been caught out promoting Mark Dreyfus on our people
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: section of their global website. Now it looks very much
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: like they've been using the Attorney General to lure in
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: new clients. A spokesperson for the firm said this was
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: all just a simple mistake. The Attorney General's biography was
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: mistakenly put on the website or left there rather after
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: he was a guest speaker at an event they ran
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: So if that's true, it raises a couple of questions.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Firstly, why did they put a guest speaker's biography under
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: our people on their website. And second, how come it
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: took them two years to realize that the Attorney General
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: was not actually part of their legal team. But all
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: of this, of course raises concerns around Labour's historic links
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: to Morris Blackburn, does it not?
• 27:53
  Speaker 21: Those links are very very strong if you look at
• 27:57
  Speaker 21: the history, there's a very strong link. Maurice Blackburn are
• 28:01
  Speaker 21: a very successful powerhouse in class actions. They benefit enormously
• 28:07
  Speaker 21: from litigation funders. Federal Labor has been friendly to litigation funders.
• 28:15
  Speaker 21: There's a history of an exchange of personnel between this
• 28:21
  Speaker 21: law firm and.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Federal and State Labor. Victorian Labor.
• 28:25
  Speaker 21: The former Attorney General Nicola Roxon's an alumni of Morris Blackburn.
• 28:30
  Speaker 21: The current chief executive of Morris Blackburn, Jacob Vargeazi, left
• 28:36
  Speaker 21: the firm, briefly, went to work for Miss Roxton and
• 28:40
  Speaker 21: Canberra and then came back to the firm. The firm's
• 28:42
  Speaker 21: chaired by Steve Brax, a former Victorian Premier. A couple
• 28:47
  Speaker 21: of years ago, mister Bras was made joint administrator of
• 28:51
  Speaker 21: Victorian Labor. So the links between Labor and this particular
• 28:56
  Speaker 21: law firm are strong and historic, and I don't think
• 28:59
  Speaker 21: there'd be embarrassed about that.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: They'd probably brag about it.
• 29:03
  Speaker 21: So I can understand how some people might see this,
• 29:07
  Speaker 21: view it as Yes, it's accurate that.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: You buying the line that it was just an accident
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: and it just happened to get put on the wrong
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: part of the website.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Let's give him a benefit of a doubt.
• 29:17
  Speaker 21: But the reality is they're like Ying and Yang Labor
• 29:21
  Speaker 21: and Morris Blackburn.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Their two brands are the same organization.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: All right, I want to get your perspective on an
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: extraordinary circumstance we had in a New South Wales court
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: case where a jura sitting on a fraud trial was
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: himself arrested.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: In the middle of the trial. But it gets even
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: messier than that.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: After the AFP arrested this Dura, they reported to the
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: judge that they'd been monitoring the jura's phone and discovered
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: he'd been privately researching the fraud case, which is a
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: big no no. And then the judge discovered that the
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: other jurors knew of this had been going on and
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: hadn't said anything. This is pretty crazy, is it.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Look it's a mess.
• 29:58
  Speaker 21: It could become a very expense I've miss or it
• 30:01
  Speaker 21: looks as though we've avoided that, but that became pretty close.
• 30:05
  Speaker 21: Two jurors have now been bounced from the jury, which
• 30:08
  Speaker 21: brings it down to twelve.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: So there was the one who was arrested, and then
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: there was the one who had been talking to the
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: guy arrested who'd been privately researching.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: So they're both gone.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: They're gone.
• 30:18
  Speaker 21: But it's also emerged that three others knew about this,
• 30:21
  Speaker 21: knew that there was private research going on.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: So the bottom line is it started at twelve.
• 30:27
  Speaker 21: If it gets down to eight, that's it. They've got
• 30:30
  Speaker 21: to discharge the jury and start again. Now, the thing
• 30:34
  Speaker 21: that I find really extraordinary is that this could have
• 30:38
  Speaker 21: cost taxpayers and the parties concerned an enormous amount of money.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: It's also a criminal offense.
• 30:47
  Speaker 21: I had to look at the Jury Act before I
• 30:48
  Speaker 21: came in, and it's punishable by two years in prison.
• 30:52
  Speaker 21: Now I haven't heard anything about whether the judge actually
• 30:56
  Speaker 21: raised that, but he did warn the jury right at
• 30:59
  Speaker 21: the beginning this seventy one day trial about doing exactly
• 31:04
  Speaker 21: this sort of thing, and he pointed to the failure
• 31:08
  Speaker 21: of the criminal the original criminal proceedings against Bruce Lherman,
• 31:12
  Speaker 21: which failed, of course, because a jura was doing research.
• 31:17
  Speaker 21: I think it's time for the judges to muscle up
• 31:19
  Speaker 21: a little bit.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: I've got to get to one more interesting court case,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: this time in South Australia, which is quite unusual. Alleged
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: bicycle band that Kim Allen Parsons. Now he set the
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: face trial in eight months time, but he might not
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: face trial at all because South Australian health authorities have
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: granted Parsons, who's terminally ill with cancer, access to the
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: state's euthanasia program.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: So what kind of precedent does that set.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a drastic way to get out of
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: a court trials.
• 31:49
  Speaker 21: Agmittedly, but this is a very sad case. This is
• 31:53
  Speaker 21: a former policeman who's facing a series of charges of
• 31:57
  Speaker 21: armed robbery. He's denied that. He says he's innocent. His lawyers, however,
• 32:03
  Speaker 21: so he's got months to live. The DPP is unmoved
• 32:08
  Speaker 21: and says the trial will continue. This man has been
• 32:13
  Speaker 21: issued with his voluntary assisted dying kit, so this could
• 32:18
  Speaker 21: all come to a screaming hault at any stage.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: It's a very sad case.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: Indeed, There's a lot to talk about on that one.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately I don't have any more time, Chris, but thanks
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: so much for joining me tonight.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: Quite okay, Well, still to come.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: That wild video of nine chairman Peter Costello in a
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: clash with a journalist. We'll talk more about that, plus
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: should counselors be allowed to use aliases online?
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: All of that with my panel.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Next, we'll confronting scenes out of canber Lake today, when
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: former treasurer and chairman of the Nine network Peter Costello
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: was caught on camera in an altercation with journalist Liam
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Mendez from the Australian newspaper have look at what happened?
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Were you aware of the allegations against mister Wick before
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: he left nine?
• 33:05
  Speaker 12: Thank you?
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Were you aware of those allegations? Mister Cortillo? Why won't
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: you support mister sneezebe publicly good? Well, you've got to
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: answer the questions, mister Costello. Don't you've just assaulted You've
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: just assaulted me?
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Pitt Costello has since responded to that clash. Here's what
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: he had to say. Just a short time ago, when
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: I came.
• 33:35
  Speaker 13: Through camera airport, there was a reporter walking backwards with
• 33:40
  Speaker 13: his phone filming. As I walked past him, he walked
• 33:43
  Speaker 13: back into an advertising platcard and he fell over. I
• 33:47
  Speaker 13: did not strike him. If he's upset about that, I'm sorry.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: However, here's what two witnesses to the incident say they
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: saw unfold.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: He's all that, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He liked picking
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: about here. I don't know what's your fall over there.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: I was just say there, I'm going to spoke on
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: the fine.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I just saw we've been shacking up. But
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: he was trying to say that I walked.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Into there, yeah, yeah, yeah, Earth we saw it.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: This comes after nine spent weeks in the headlines over
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: allegations of bullying and harassment by the network's former news
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: boss Darren Wick and allegations of a cover up by
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: the nine board. Joining me to discuss this is Hobart
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: City councilor Louise Elliott and Sky News host of The
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Royal Report Caroline de Russo. Louise, let me start with you.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: This is an extraordinary situation, but also a pretty bad
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: move by Costello.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah it is.
• 34:46
  Speaker 9: I actually think both parties might be to blame here.
• 34:48
  Speaker 9: Peter was clearly not having a good day, and I
• 34:50
  Speaker 9: imagine there's a whole lot of regret going on now,
• 34:53
  Speaker 9: but also you can imagine that sort of personal space
• 34:56
  Speaker 9: invasion and also the bit of the you know, plane
• 34:59
  Speaker 9: for the Free King for the rep and glumping straight
• 35:01
  Speaker 9: to that I've been assaulted. So I think both people
• 35:05
  Speaker 9: are responsible, but I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't
• 35:09
  Speaker 9: the last or the end of the story for Peter
• 35:11
  Speaker 9: and has more to be heard.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: About this, Caroline, I'm keen to get your view because
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: you kind of straddle politics and media, you're involved in both.
• 35:19
  Speaker 22: What do you think, Well, I think when you're in
• 35:23
  Speaker 22: the public eye, you always got to be really careful
• 35:26
  Speaker 22: about what you do. And you know, we've seen, you know,
• 35:30
  Speaker 22: there's a couple of those eyewitness reports. There's obviously that
• 35:33
  Speaker 22: bit of footage. None of us were there, so you know,
• 35:37
  Speaker 22: I don't know exactly what has happened, so I don't
• 35:39
  Speaker 22: want to comment precisely, but it doesn't look good and
• 35:44
  Speaker 22: it looks very untidy, and it's not something that we
• 35:46
  Speaker 22: will consider appropriate in either the commercial.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: World or the political world.
• 35:51
  Speaker 22: And you know, I actually just think it's really unfortunate
• 35:55
  Speaker 22: when these things happen I just don't think it's good
• 35:58
  Speaker 22: enough to be perfectly The highlight here is actually the witnesses.
• 36:02
  Speaker 22: I love the I was out the front having a
• 36:04
  Speaker 22: smoke and fing oath, which I think is actually the
• 36:08
  Speaker 22: highlight of what is otherwise a really rubbish set of circumstances.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: Good take, good, take all. Right onto other news.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: An antique shop in Katoomba is under fire for its
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: shopfront signage, which Jewish groups have slammed as anti Semitic.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: The president of the New South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies,
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: David Ossip, said the sign would not be out of
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: place in Nazi Germany. Now here's the painting. It's a
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: depiction of puppet Master Crampus, a centuries old devilish character
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: known for its anti Semitic features and connotations. Featured on
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: the painting was this message, riddled with spelling and grammar mistakes.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: Mind you quote.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: The Zionists own your government, install all politicians, control the
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: justice system, print all currency, own pharmacy and medical. The
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: military and police are their lapdogs. The shop front also
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: featured a free Palestine flag. Louise I continue to be
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: amazed at how anti Semitism is just so blatant in
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: this country. You'd thought it would have died down by now,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: but it seems to be ramping up.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right.
• 37:18
  Speaker 9: It's a really heartbreaking situation and it's actually quite hard
• 37:21
  Speaker 9: to believe that this is happening in our own country.
• 37:23
  Speaker 9: But this is what happens when leadership is nonexistent and
• 37:28
  Speaker 9: it's allowed to flourish. There's a gap, and this is
• 37:31
  Speaker 9: what's coming through. I mean, there's it seems to be
• 37:34
  Speaker 9: that there's some sort of immunity around anti Semitic behavior.
• 37:38
  Speaker 9: It's allowed to continue on, it's allowed to escalate with
• 37:41
  Speaker 9: no sort of consequence, and it's like how far can
• 37:44
  Speaker 9: you push the barriers, And that's what we're seeing, push, push, push,
• 37:47
  Speaker 9: So I think this really is the result of a
• 37:50
  Speaker 9: lack of leadership, a failure of leadership, and some people
• 37:53
  Speaker 9: take advantage of that, and this is the really terrible
• 37:56
  Speaker 9: consequence of that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, speaking of consequence, as Caroline, will there be any
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: consequences for this kind of thing or it's just bad press, It'll.
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  Speaker 22: Be interesting to see what happens. Look, there's obviously civil
• 38:12
  Speaker 22: laws that are already in place which say that you
• 38:14
  Speaker 22: can't vilify, and we also know that there's talk about
• 38:19
  Speaker 22: potential criminal laws that relate to the same sort of conduct.
• 38:24
  Speaker 22: The issue is you might have laws, but you actually
• 38:26
  Speaker 22: have to enforce them. So it'll be interesting to see
• 38:29
  Speaker 22: whether the police force or any other relevant body, human
• 38:33
  Speaker 22: rights commission, whoever, decide to make an example out of
• 38:37
  Speaker 22: something like this, because it's actually really revolting. It's every
• 38:41
  Speaker 22: trope that you can possibly think of in one shot
• 38:44
  Speaker 22: front and you would think, mate, of all things, it
• 38:47
  Speaker 22: would be safe to go antiquing, and that's not even
• 38:51
  Speaker 22: a respectable, decent.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: Hobby for people.
• 38:55
  Speaker 22: To partake in these days without getting this sort of
• 38:58
  Speaker 22: rubbish shoved in their face.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely, all right. Let's talk about local council for
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: a moment. An independent counselor has sparked an interesting debate
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: within Sydney's in a West Council over whether politicians should
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: be able to use aliases on social media now. Councilor
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: John Stamelos was concerned council members might go on Facebook
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: and argue for their own policies but under an alias,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: but his motion to ban the use of aliases was defeated.
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  Speaker 2: The council members wanted the ability to use them Luise,
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  Speaker 2: you're a local counselor, what do you think?
• 39:33
  Speaker 9: Well, I wouldn't need to comply with this policy because
• 39:36
  Speaker 9: I have a tendency to say whatever I think needs
• 39:38
  Speaker 9: to be said using my own name, and often that's
• 39:41
  Speaker 9: something that does get me in trouble with what I
• 39:43
  Speaker 9: believe are often woke code of conduct panels. I think
• 39:47
  Speaker 9: this whole issue stems from ader a broader issue where
• 39:51
  Speaker 9: elected representatives, elected counselors aren't allowed to do the role
• 39:54
  Speaker 9: that they're allowed to do, which is represent the diversity
• 39:57
  Speaker 9: of views out.
• 39:58
  Speaker 12: There in the community.
• 39:59
  Speaker 9: It's only one perspective that's often allowed to be portrayed,
• 40:03
  Speaker 9: and if you don't go along with that group think,
• 40:05
  Speaker 9: you are penalized, which I think is why that comes
• 40:08
  Speaker 9: back to. Some people might think that okay, well, if
• 40:11
  Speaker 9: I can't say what I actually think, then I'll use
• 40:13
  Speaker 9: an alias to do so. But instead the problem needs
• 40:16
  Speaker 9: to be looking at our free speech rights and the
• 40:19
  Speaker 9: importance of having different views heard. Because local government elected
• 40:24
  Speaker 9: representatives across Australia, including myself, are being shut down. We've
• 40:28
  Speaker 9: been canceled for not saying what is politically correct or
• 40:31
  Speaker 9: going along with the group think, and I think that's
• 40:33
  Speaker 9: where the reform needs, not policies on fake profiles.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: Caroline, do you reckon we might have local counselors trolling
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: their opponents online using fake names.
• 40:46
  Speaker 22: I think there's probably a whole subgame going on here.
• 40:50
  Speaker 22: But you know, essentially, we elect people to local government
• 40:54
  Speaker 22: to look after the basics of their local government area,
• 40:58
  Speaker 22: and we talk about roads, rates and rubbish all of
• 41:01
  Speaker 22: the time. The fact that you need an alias to
• 41:04
  Speaker 22: pat yourself on the head or have a crack at
• 41:07
  Speaker 22: one of your opponents just shows how you are totally
• 41:11
  Speaker 22: totally missing the whole idea of what you're there for
• 41:14
  Speaker 22: in local government. If you have a policy, you should
• 41:17
  Speaker 22: get out there and articulate it. You shall get local
• 41:20
  Speaker 22: support for it, and if you want to criticize someone
• 41:22
  Speaker 22: else's policy, get out there and criticize the substance of
• 41:26
  Speaker 22: it on your own, because ultimately, when it comes round
• 41:29
  Speaker 22: to council elections, you can only vote the once, so
• 41:32
  Speaker 22: you might as well actually have the support do the
• 41:34
  Speaker 22: work before you get there.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: All right, let me go to another story which really
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: captured my attention today. The Spanish government, as people might know,
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: has just recognized Palestine as a state and as such,
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: they've decided to put an embassy in the West Bank.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: There's just one problem.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: No Spanish diplomats are willing to diplomats rather are willing
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: to move there. They all want to stay in the
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Israeli embassy. They're citing safety and quality of life concerns, Louise.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Spanish diplomats happy to recognize Palestinian statehood, but from a distance, well.
• 42:08
  Speaker 9: Surprise, surprise. Unless you're a male Muslim that believes in
• 42:12
  Speaker 9: the annihilation of Jewish people, you're not going to have
• 42:14
  Speaker 9: a good time.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: So yeah, consequences, Caroline, This story reflects so much of
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: the pro Palestinian argument, doesn't it. I mean, queers for
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Palestine would never actually want to live in Palestine, and
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: the Spanish are all about solidarity with Palestine as long
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: as they can live in Israel.
• 42:32
  Speaker 22: Yeah, this is like state sanctioned slack divism right like.
• 42:35
  Speaker 22: It is just absolutely the worst of the worst. I
• 42:38
  Speaker 22: was in the West Bank last year, and quite frankly,
• 42:40
  Speaker 22: I have never seen so many shiny black Mercedes in
• 42:43
  Speaker 22: all my life. So maybe if they can line them
• 42:45
  Speaker 22: up some fresh new cars, maybe that'll be enough to
• 42:47
  Speaker 22: entice them over the border.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Louise Elliott and Caroline Deruso, thank you so much for
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: your time. Well plenty more to come After the break,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: the UK election heats up as Nigel Farage closes in
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: on the Tories plus and up eight on that milkshake
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: woman who attacked the Reform Party leader. All of that
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: in just a moment. Well, let's go to the UK
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: where the election race is ramping up. Nigel Faraja's Reform
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: UK Party has been boosted by seven thousand new members
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: since the form at Brigstier became leader just a couple
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: of days ago. New polling has Nigel Faraga's party just
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: two points behind the Tories. Let's get the latest with
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: gb News host Patrick Christie's. Patrick, is this a surprising result?
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Farage so close to the Tories only a couple of
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: days after announcing You'll stand.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: Absolutely not no.
• 43:40
  Speaker 20: I mean the Conservatives are called the Conservatives, but they're
• 43:42
  Speaker 20: not bothered to actually conserve anything about Britain. They're a
• 43:45
  Speaker 20: parts of this country now that are completely unrecognizable. Nothing works,
• 43:49
  Speaker 20: our health service is absolutely naked, the roads are full
• 43:52
  Speaker 20: of partholes and two club. Culturally, we've absolutely gone to
• 43:55
  Speaker 20: the dogs and so shock horror. You see a man
• 43:57
  Speaker 20: there who actually wants to find understand up for Britain,
• 44:01
  Speaker 20: and he does rather well. He's played an absolute blinders
• 44:03
  Speaker 20: so far as Nigel Paradi waited and waited and waited
• 44:06
  Speaker 20: and let the Conservatives think he wasn't going to stand
• 44:08
  Speaker 20: and then swoops in at the last minute just two
• 44:11
  Speaker 20: points behind them. The only issue that he's got, and
• 44:13
  Speaker 20: it is a massive issue, is the under our current
• 44:15
  Speaker 20: voting system, he could get and wait for this, twenty
• 44:19
  Speaker 20: percent of the popular vote and get two or three
• 44:23
  Speaker 20: seats in the House of Commons in our parliament, whereas
• 44:26
  Speaker 20: another party, the Liberal Democrats, the Socks and Sandals brigade
• 44:29
  Speaker 20: in the tofu eating Workerti, they could get ten percent
• 44:32
  Speaker 20: of the vote and get thirty nine seats. So he
• 44:36
  Speaker 20: is onto a bit of a loser here. But what
• 44:38
  Speaker 20: he said is he wants to lead a revolt and
• 44:39
  Speaker 20: that's what he's doing.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: He was actually saying that his goal was after the
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: election to be the main opposition.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: Is that possible, yeah, I mean it is possible.
• 44:50
  Speaker 20: Well, it's possible in a moral sense, in a number sense,
• 44:53
  Speaker 20: if he's going to have to wait a couple of
• 44:54
  Speaker 20: electors to actually be physically the main opposition in the
• 44:57
  Speaker 20: House of Commons, but it is possible. I was the
• 45:00
  Speaker 20: Conservative Party, like I've said, of eating themselves alive. They've
• 45:02
  Speaker 20: decided that their solution to a nation that voted for Brexit,
• 45:06
  Speaker 20: has consistently voted for lower immigration, has consistently wanted to
• 45:10
  Speaker 20: deport people who arrive here illegally, is to fill their
• 45:12
  Speaker 20: party with a load of people who think the exact
• 45:14
  Speaker 20: opposite of that, and then get them to stand for
• 45:17
  Speaker 20: election so they get a massive kicking, don't they, So
• 45:20
  Speaker 20: when they get wiped out, Nigel Farrage could be there
• 45:23
  Speaker 20: to be the man of actual serious opposition. There is
• 45:26
  Speaker 20: a genuine concern though, and I'm not exaggerating this. I
• 45:29
  Speaker 20: know we're going to talk a bit about the milkshake,
• 45:31
  Speaker 20: but there is a genuine concern for Nigel Ferrage's safety
• 45:35
  Speaker 20: though whether or not he actually survives for the next
• 45:38
  Speaker 20: few years, because of the way that the fractured nature
• 45:41
  Speaker 20: of politics at the moment and how easy it is
• 45:43
  Speaker 20: to get at politicians, and I think people underestimate that.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: Okay, well you've got my attention. Let's talk about that.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: We'll start with the milkshake that was thrown at him
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: after his campaign launch in Essex, although he did take
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: it all in his stride.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: Let's have a look at hell, he respond on, my
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: milkshake brings all the people to the rally.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: So he's making light of it, and you know, it's
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: all a bit of a laugh, which says something about
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Nigel Farage, doesn't it.
• 46:14
  Speaker 20: Look it does say a lot about Nigel Farage. But
• 46:17
  Speaker 20: the people on the left, you know, the b kind brigade,
• 46:19
  Speaker 20: the people who think we should all love each.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: Other and everyone's fantastic. They all laughed at this. Well,
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: that is absolutely disgraceful.
• 46:27
  Speaker 20: When you have a liquid pornover, you don't know for
• 46:29
  Speaker 20: a split second if it's a banana milkshake or acid,
• 46:32
  Speaker 20: you know, and if it is a banana milkshake today,
• 46:34
  Speaker 20: the next day it could be acid. Then we're talking
• 46:37
  Speaker 20: about the step up to you know, petrol bombs, et cetera,
• 46:39
  Speaker 20: et cetera. So there was a concern that it turned
• 46:42
  Speaker 20: out she was an OnlyFans model. Okay, so a lot
• 46:44
  Speaker 20: of people thought, ha, this is the youth of today
• 46:46
  Speaker 20: making a process as Nigel Farag's politics. No, this is
• 46:49
  Speaker 20: a woman who was trying to drum up publicity for
• 46:51
  Speaker 20: her rear end on the Internet, so I think it's
• 46:53
  Speaker 20: important to have a bit of context there. What I
• 46:55
  Speaker 20: will say though is Nigel Farag has got a lot
• 46:57
  Speaker 20: of very strong views when it comes to cultural assimilation,
• 47:00
  Speaker 20: when it comes to integration, and when it comes to
• 47:02
  Speaker 20: certain aspects of the Muslim community in Britain.
• 47:05
  Speaker 12: Now we do.
• 47:05
  Speaker 20: Also know that they tend to take that very badly
• 47:09
  Speaker 20: and there is a big, big, big concern that if
• 47:11
  Speaker 20: Nigel Farage keeps saying the kind of things that he says,
• 47:14
  Speaker 20: which by the way, millions and millions of people in
• 47:16
  Speaker 20: Britain agree with him on Millions of people will say
• 47:18
  Speaker 20: absolutely is a huge issue of Britain going forward, that
• 47:21
  Speaker 20: there will be concerns for his safety and there is
• 47:24
  Speaker 20: an idea, I think, amongst millions of British roads that
• 47:26
  Speaker 20: we need to protect Nigel at all costs.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean there has been cases of politicians having
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: been at TechEd famously, one while he was wasn't his
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: electric office, but he was doing a public meeting when
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: he was a tech That was just recently, wasn't it.
• 47:42
  Speaker 20: Yeah, absolutely that he died. He died and it wasn't
• 47:45
  Speaker 20: million miles away from there. He was stabbed to death
• 47:47
  Speaker 20: during a surgery. We've also had MPs who have to
• 47:50
  Speaker 20: walk around in stab proof best. One of them is
• 47:52
  Speaker 20: Jewish in a big area with the big Jewish population,
• 47:56
  Speaker 20: get routinely gets death threats. His office was actually fire
• 47:59
  Speaker 20: bomb as well.
• 48:00
  Speaker 6: Well.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: We've had a labor to a left wing MP.
• 48:04
  Speaker 20: An asylum seeker has just been convicted of stalking them
• 48:07
  Speaker 20: because they were saying they claim wasn't being processed quickly enough.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: Look, this stuff exists, this stuff happens.
• 48:12
  Speaker 20: What really winds me up, though, is every time this
• 48:14
  Speaker 20: stuff happens, people managed to blame it on everything other
• 48:16
  Speaker 20: than Islam.
• 48:17
  Speaker 12: Is it?
• 48:17
  Speaker 20: They go, Oh, it's the toxic culture of social media.
• 48:20
  Speaker 20: Well no it's not. Is It really is the fact
• 48:23
  Speaker 20: that someone here has got a rabid is Limist ideology
• 48:25
  Speaker 20: and they are now rolling in the streets of Britain.
• 48:27
  Speaker 20: So yeah, that is a big conserve ven argel parade.
• 48:30
  Speaker 20: But he's going to keep saying what he says, and
• 48:31
  Speaker 20: nowhere else in British politics at the moment can you
• 48:34
  Speaker 20: get a bloke with a few hours notice who will
• 48:36
  Speaker 20: say I'm going to be standing on the end of
• 48:37
  Speaker 20: a pier in a British seaside town. A drastric.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: I've got to interrupted, Patrick. Sorry, I've run out of time,
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: but I really appreciate.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: You joining me.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Well that's it from me. I'll see you next week.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: But up now is sharing markson