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Draymond Green on his 3 favorite NFL players, NFL vs NBA toughness rules, loyalty to Golden St. Warriors · NFL explained.

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  Speaker 1: Hey, welcome on in.
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  Speaker 2: out to the Saints beating the Buccaneers or Buck Cantiers.
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  Speaker 1: Either way. You know, I'm super excited.
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  Speaker 2: You know that not only guys are here off the
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  Speaker 2: edge the podcast with me, your host Cam Jordan, but
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  Speaker 2: I got to introduce one of my guys that I've
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  Speaker 2: known for quite a long time, inadvertently on the other
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  Speaker 2: side of the league. You know that the NFL, then
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  Speaker 2: there's the NBA. You know the talle as hell they
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  Speaker 2: make all you know, they make great plays and their
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  Speaker 2: own rights. But he even had a little touch, a
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  Speaker 2: little stint with football. We'll get in that later, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking about Michigan State alum.
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  Speaker 1: You know it was spartan if you will.
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  Speaker 2: Fourteenth season with the Golden State Warriors, time NBA champion
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  Speaker 2: four time NBA All Star, one of the greatest picks
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  Speaker 2: in the image of second round picks and NBA Draft,
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  Speaker 2: one of the greatest.
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  Speaker 1: Defenders that we're gonna talk about, and Dremond Green.
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  Speaker 2: It's time for this week's Drive for Success Conversation, presented
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  Speaker 2: by Toyota.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go places, my guy.
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  Speaker 3: What's up, my brother? How are you?
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  Speaker 4: Man?
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  Speaker 2: You know, just from a guy who who loves defense,
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  Speaker 2: loves Washington defense being played.
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  Speaker 1: I love I love the aggressive manner in which you
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  Speaker 1: bring to the table.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I say all basketball players are soft, but
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  Speaker 2: I don't mean all of them. I mean the new
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  Speaker 2: ones and I really mean, you know, like the ones
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  Speaker 2: that don't have a defensive mindset like yourself.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about this before.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate that, brother.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I agree with you, like a lot of
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  Speaker 4: basketball players are soft. That's just the reality. I think
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  Speaker 4: the game has gotten a lot softer than it is.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, I think the toughness that a lot
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  Speaker 4: of guys used to bring to the NBA isn't really
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  Speaker 4: accepted in the NBA anymore. So I I agree with you,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of guys are soft. You're not wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, you know my My wife played ball over
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  Speaker 2: in California, went to uh, you know, went to Marlborough
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  Speaker 2: High School McDonald's all American back in the gap, back
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  Speaker 2: in like two thousand.
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  Speaker 1: Who lord, when we got out high school.
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  Speaker 2: Two thousand, she was twenty twelve million in two thousand
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  Speaker 2: and eight. Who yeah, yeah, way back way back then.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, she talks about you know, her favorite
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  Speaker 2: point guard was was Isaiah Thomas. So she talks about
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  Speaker 2: the Detroit bad Boys all the time. So she's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the game soft woo the wool. It's always you know,
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  Speaker 2: everybody old always wants to talk about how the game
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  Speaker 2: used to be playing, like it's it for next game now.
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  Speaker 3: And it's definitely it's definitely a for next game. Listen.
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  Speaker 4: Like I said, I agree that the game is softer.
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  Speaker 4: I do also think like there are some guys that
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  Speaker 4: are more physical than the game allows, you know, but
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  Speaker 4: the rules that say Isaiah Thomas or you know, older
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  Speaker 4: guys played or that we're not allowed to play under
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  Speaker 4: those same.
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  Speaker 3: Rules though, you know, so it does piss me off
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  Speaker 3: on some of those.
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  Speaker 4: Guys going to be like yeah, they soft as hell,
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  Speaker 4: and like the game soft as hell, like because we're
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  Speaker 4: not in control of all of that, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like, yes, there's a group of soft guys,
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  Speaker 4: but by the way, just so we're clear, there were
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  Speaker 4: a group of soft guys that played in the league
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  Speaker 4: back then as well, Like everybody wasn't tough that played
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  Speaker 4: in the league in the nineties, you know. So there
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  Speaker 4: is a group of guys that are soft, but there's
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  Speaker 4: also a group of guys that are physical, that play
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  Speaker 4: the game physical as well, And you're.
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  Speaker 3: Not always allowed to play that way.
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  Speaker 4: You're not allowed to do the things that they were
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  Speaker 4: allowed to do back in the day.
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  Speaker 3: So I think there's you know, there is some truth
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  Speaker 3: to every statement, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, but I think a little bit of it is
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  Speaker 4: pushed a little far because they try to make it
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  Speaker 4: like one size fits all, and that's not the case.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Look, you know, guys, guys looked at you know, ray
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  Speaker 2: Lewis the way he would come down to smack a
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  Speaker 2: receiver in the middle.
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  Speaker 1: You can't do that anymore, you cannot. I used to
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  Speaker 1: look at it gone, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Safety safety Joey Brown aer over it at the Minnesota Vikings.
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  Speaker 2: They called him the claw, like he was going by
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  Speaker 2: and snagging you from your neck is not loud anymore.
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  Speaker 2: You can't do that, Like I know, there's rules in
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  Speaker 2: just the advantage of time.
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  Speaker 4: It happens, absolutely, I think, you know, you can even
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  Speaker 4: go like more recently, a cam Chancellor like Cam Chancellor
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  Speaker 4: couldn't play INNFL today, He just wouldn't. He'd be suspended
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  Speaker 4: every other week. No, you think of a Vantae perfect
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  Speaker 4: who was suspended a lot even during.
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  Speaker 1: His time, but he lay in heralded in the nineties.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, but you look at when he played and even now,
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  Speaker 4: like taking a step further to advantage played now, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and he played well years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, he's been kicked out two times over. They
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  Speaker 2: were trying to kick it out while he was playing exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So I think you know when you look at it.
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  Speaker 4: But that's also like the sports were more violent then,
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  Speaker 4: but they didn't make as much money as they do now,
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  Speaker 4: you know, And so you look at taking some of
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  Speaker 4: the violence out and what the revenue did. You know,
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  Speaker 4: It all makes sense at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 4: So we can on complaining to be like, oh man,
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  Speaker 4: they call it too soft, you know, or yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 4: on both on both sides of the NBA and NFL.
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  Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, it's clearly has
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  Speaker 4: some benefiting. I don't I'm not complaining about that. I
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  Speaker 4: know you're not complaining about that. So it is give
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  Speaker 4: and take with.
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  Speaker 1: Everything, no doubt, no doubt.
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  Speaker 2: So do you see the uh you saw the Chargers
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  Speaker 2: uh Eagles game, you know, and the way it concluded.
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  Speaker 1: You saw the just charge of squeak one out.
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  Speaker 2: I said, okay, okay, you know, justin Herbert trying to
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  Speaker 2: go celebrate with his with his with his teammates, trying
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  Speaker 2: to be a team guy.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Laura Relative, who I think is a great, a great reporter,
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  Speaker 2: comes up, Hey, you gotta get a second with Hey,
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to celebrate my teammates. Yeah, I hear you
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  Speaker 2: come talk to me, you know. And then I thought
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  Speaker 2: nothing of it. But I see, you know, social media
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  Speaker 2: going on rampage, like you know what you play. You know,
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  Speaker 2: somebody say, you know how much you make and you
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  Speaker 2: have to you have to do these report, you know,
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  Speaker 2: talk to the reporters. I'm like, in the moment, he's
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  Speaker 2: trying to celebrate with his team. I see from both sides.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you got to got a chance
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  Speaker 2: to see that.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I did see it. I see it from both
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  Speaker 3: sides as well.
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  Speaker 4: You know, that goes back to like just talking about
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  Speaker 4: the money of it, right, like the business of football,
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  Speaker 4: the business of basketball. I was talking to a friend
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  Speaker 4: of mine yesterday who plays overseas and he used to
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  Speaker 4: play in the league, and he was just telling me,
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  Speaker 4: like some of the complaints that he has over there,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like we all shore our complaints with our boys, right,
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  Speaker 4: and he was telling me like some of the complaints
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  Speaker 4: that he has. And when he finished, I just said
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  Speaker 4: to him, I said yeah. He was like, but all
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  Speaker 4: in all them good, bro, Like it's great. And when
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  Speaker 4: he finished, I said, yeah, the business of basketball, because
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  Speaker 4: you know, you dealt with the business of basketball in
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  Speaker 4: the NBA. You go overseas, you're gonna deal with the
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  Speaker 4: business of basketball there too. It's not going away, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And it was just kind of like my subtle reminder
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  Speaker 4: for him of like, yeah, we played this game, but
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  Speaker 4: don't forget.
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  Speaker 3: About the business of basketball, you know.
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  Speaker 4: So speaking the law, she's going to do her job,
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  Speaker 4: which which like you said, she's a great at it.
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  Speaker 3: Take nothing away from her.
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  Speaker 4: And her job isn't really going to require her to
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  Speaker 4: have any feel right, So she ain't, you know, She
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  Speaker 4: just like, I gotta get this interview because that's my
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  Speaker 4: job and that's what I'm required to do. Justin Herber
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  Speaker 4: hand surgery a week ago, comes out, play through a
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  Speaker 4: lead these guys getting crushed like he's been getting crushed
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  Speaker 4: all year. Still leads these guys to victory. And that's
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  Speaker 4: who we need to talk to. She's doing her job.
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  Speaker 4: I can't be mad at her for doing her job.
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  Speaker 4: But in that moment, he want to go. He want
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  Speaker 4: to go celebrate with his teammates. Now here's what I
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  Speaker 4: will say. He's probably a little pissed off in that
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  Speaker 4: moment about something, right although they want, it's pissed off
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  Speaker 4: about something that taking place in that game.
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  Speaker 3: So I really don't feel like.
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  Speaker 4: Talking to you right now. I'm gonna go over here
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  Speaker 4: and talk. I'm gonna go over here and celebrate with
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  Speaker 4: my teammates. I really don't feel like when she grabbed
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to celebrate my teammates. Where I will give
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  Speaker 4: Justin Herbert credit is he stopped. He did the end,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and I can respect that. To your point,
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  Speaker 4: I didn't think it was a very big deal either.
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  Speaker 3: And then I saw people like, well, you know how
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  Speaker 3: much money you making? How much?
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  Speaker 4: And I'm just like, hmm, if all Justin Herbert wanted
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  Speaker 4: to do his interviews, he don't make that money. So
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  Speaker 4: miss me with the you know how much money you made?
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  Speaker 4: You got to do that? No, no, no, what he
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  Speaker 4: has to do is what he did. He has to
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  Speaker 4: go win football games. And if he win football games,
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  Speaker 4: he makes that money for being a quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: He don't make that that type of money.
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  Speaker 4: Tom Brady makes that type of money for talking about
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  Speaker 4: the game. Just Herbert doesn't make that type of money
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  Speaker 4: for talking about the game. So miss me with the
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  Speaker 4: when people try to act like, oh man, you just
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  Speaker 4: got to do this, and I don't have to do
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  Speaker 4: anything but go play this game.
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  Speaker 3: And as long as I play this game at a
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  Speaker 3: very high level, even.
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  Speaker 4: If I don't do the interviews Mark Shawn Lynch, they
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  Speaker 4: still gonna pay me at a very high level.
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  Speaker 3: So miss me with that.
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  Speaker 2: I was.
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  Speaker 1: What fills the seats is the talent involved.
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  Speaker 2: You know, like Justin Herbert is a is a is
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  Speaker 2: a headliner.
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  Speaker 1: You know that there's nothing throws he made.
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  Speaker 2: There's a reason why they won, you know, and that's
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  Speaker 2: the reason why they want to interview him.
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  Speaker 1: When you make big plays, you get big questions.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly, they didn't go interview the third string quarterback. So again,
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  Speaker 4: don't tell me it's it's responsibility and that's why he's paid.
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  Speaker 3: Stop with that. That's not why he's fade.
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  Speaker 2: It's not, no doubt. Look, that's that's I just wanted
• 9:22
  Speaker 2: to see if he was taking a spin. I was
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: just like you, you're on the podcast side. I'm on
• 9:25
  Speaker 2: this podcast side. I was like, I get both sides
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: of it, you know, like we can you know, we can,
• 9:30
  Speaker 2: we can pivot, you know, as pro pro athletes says dads,
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: you know, congratulations your fifth one coming up. Well, I'm
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: saying in advance, you know, whenever, whenever, Uh, as long
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: as as long as the baby's healthy. That's all we
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: really pressed for his dads.
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  Speaker 3: That's it. That's it. Healthy baby, healthy mama. With the birth.
• 9:46
  Speaker 4: You know, everything goes smooth. You know, we get them
• 9:49
  Speaker 4: through it. Uh, but that's a little rough right now.
• 9:51
  Speaker 4: My grade's about to pop through this die and start
• 9:54
  Speaker 4: coming back.
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know he's gonna put the die out there.
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  Speaker 4: The Beijing Absolutely, it's not Beijing. But I did die
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  Speaker 4: for sure. No, I you know, I am not ashamed
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  Speaker 4: about it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not there yet. I'm not there.
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: I got I think I got a couple, but I'm like,
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: you know, I keep it normally. I keep it low anyways,
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  Speaker 2: And what does when it does sticking out? It's just
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  Speaker 2: a few, and I'm cool.
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  Speaker 3: A few checked this out.
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  Speaker 4: So this past summer, my wife and I great friends
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  Speaker 4: with Taylor Rooks, and we goes to Taylor's wedding and
• 10:28
  Speaker 4: Taylor does this thing where the portraits and the black
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  Speaker 4: and white, and so we go take the portrait and
• 10:38
  Speaker 4: we get the portrait, and I with my wife, I'm
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  Speaker 4: like holding her like like this, like like the way
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  Speaker 4: that she's like sitting on the stool and my arm
• 10:47
  Speaker 4: is like wrapped around the shoulder and I'm leaning in.
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  Speaker 3: And man, my wife.
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  Speaker 4: Looked gorgeous, like she looked like a beautiful young lady,
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  Speaker 4: and I looked like her grandfather. I had like the
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  Speaker 4: gray stuck out so crazy on the black and white portrait.
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  Speaker 3: It was that day that I said, oh I'm done.
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  Speaker 3: That's it.
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  Speaker 4: Like I hit my barber bro. I was so anti
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  Speaker 4: like all of the enhancement stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Bro.
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  Speaker 4: I used to go crazy at my barber. I'm like, bro, like,
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  Speaker 4: don't spray up. I hit my barber. As soon as
• 11:19
  Speaker 4: he walked through walking the door. He walked on the door,
• 11:22
  Speaker 4: he started cutting my hair. I'm like, blince to die
• 11:24
  Speaker 4: like where. He's like, what what you talking about? I'm like,
• 11:26
  Speaker 4: blin is to die, Like it's time, bro. And he's
• 11:30
  Speaker 4: sitting there like.
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: Like like, what are you talking about?
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  Speaker 3: Bro? Like like I need to die blaz. He's like,
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  Speaker 3: what you coming on to the other side.
• 11:38
  Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, bro, it's time. We door dashed to die.
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  Speaker 4: And we've been rewinding it ever since.
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  Speaker 1: Rewind time. You know, you just want to look good.
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  Speaker 1: You just want.
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  Speaker 2: Especially on the court, y'all ain't got no help. Macy
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  Speaker 2: all hide nowhere, you camera here no more.
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  Speaker 3: Man. They after you know, everybody saying I'm older than
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  Speaker 3: what I am.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, nah, bro, I'm getting up there, but I'm
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  Speaker 4: thirty five.
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  Speaker 3: I can still go out, and so I'm like, nah,
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  Speaker 3: I gotta go.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta go. I mean, that is hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: I just think with four kids, how much how much
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  Speaker 2: locker room access do they get? Do they get the
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: whole you know, I got I got four kids, right,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and my son gets come with me. You know,
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  Speaker 2: my girls like, Dad, can I go to work? I
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: can't bring you to the locker room. Baby, I'm not
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: gonna lie to you. Guys, get guys, get undressed there.
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  Speaker 2: I can't bring you.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry.
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: I can bring you, know I can. I can bring
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  Speaker 2: you to the to the field. I can bring you
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  Speaker 2: to the game. Can't go to the locker room. So
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: as Saturday's I take my kid, my boy tomorrow, Davis,
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: he brings his kid. I make him run. They do
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  Speaker 2: routes at this point, like last couple of weeks, you know,
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: they're like they're like, man, how hard are we going?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: We're gonna go get in the morning before it starts up.
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  Speaker 2: I get my little jog in with you. But like,
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  Speaker 2: how much access do your kids get?
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  Speaker 4: You know, Steve curR is incredible about family and so
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  Speaker 4: like my kids, my wife, they can fly on our
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  Speaker 4: team playing anytime they want, like whole trip, one flight.
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  Speaker 4: Steve Kerr has been or is and has always been
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  Speaker 4: amazing about that access any practice, any game.
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  Speaker 3: Break them. You know, like my son comes in the
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  Speaker 3: locker room.
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  Speaker 4: My girls, they come down the stairs from the game
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  Speaker 4: with us and they go to the court, you know,
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  Speaker 4: Like they go off to the court and it's it's
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  Speaker 4: like a full blong daycare, like like they're they're out
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  Speaker 4: there running a month, you know, and and.
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  Speaker 3: So they get access. I'm very grateful for that. My son.
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  Speaker 3: Last week, I hadn't seen my son in a month.
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  Speaker 4: With our with the way our schedules, the way our
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  Speaker 4: schedule were, I hadn't seen him in a month, and
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  Speaker 4: so we were home and I was going to be
• 13:54
  Speaker 4: able to see him for twenty four hours. He sat
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  Speaker 4: on the bench with us that day, you know, like
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  Speaker 4: and he gave a handed out time and stuff. Again,
• 14:01
  Speaker 4: like Steve curR is amazing when it comes to that stuff,
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  Speaker 4: And that was so important to me just to spend
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  Speaker 4: that time with him, Like even when I'm about.
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  Speaker 3: To gain because i haven't seen him in a month
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  Speaker 3: and I'm about to be gone in.
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  Speaker 4: Twenty four and I got twenty four hours and I'm
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: about to be gone, you know. So I'm very grateful
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: in that aspect that our organization is great about that
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: you allow them to spend as much time as they
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: want to spend or we want to have them, So
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: I appreciate that side of.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: It, no doubt. Have you introduced them to the coltels yet.
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: My son has been in the colt My girls have not.
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: But he's hopped in there and these kids. Crazy man,
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: He's like, oh yeah, oh he embraced it.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: Hey, good for him. Bro, I don't believe in the Kolto.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: But my son was having some growing pains, you know, like,
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: oh damn, my ship's hurt, my knees hurt. I said, hey, bro,
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: I know a way to get you right. And you
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: put them in to put them in the Kolto. My man, Dad,
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: what is this. We're not supposed to be here, going.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: To goat up. I don't, I don't. I don't.
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: All these years, you're not in the Kolto.
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: No, sir, I believe in heat. I believe in heat. Restore,
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: restore me at my fullest. I'm from Arizona, with school California.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: I've been in the South of the last fifteen I
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: deserve heat. If it's ninety degrees, I'm happy. If it's
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: sub seventy five, what are we doing? Oh my god, Hey,
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: I'm big.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: I'm big. Hot tub.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't even get to the hotel to year ten.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: Look, right around twenty nine thirty, I started like, all right,
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: I gotta really start taking care of my body. I
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: really used to just flex it. I'm here for all
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: the smoke with none of the repercussions. And now I'm
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: in all the rehabs. I'm in all the prehabs.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: I'm in the hotel every day, steamroom.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, all of it, all of it.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: But I mean, you know, as we get older, you know,
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: mortality catches up with all of this.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: I used to be like I getting up, I get
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: in a hot to. I used to treat it like
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: people drinking coffee. Now I'm eventually gonna get there. I
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: was like, when I get old enough, i'mnn get hot tub.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna give me some coffee too. I was like,
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: what do you do after that, some some zin.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: I'm like what, I don't know. I might start taking
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: energy drinks.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I wake up and go get it.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: After that, you get class, you go home.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: You go home.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: You know, God, look anything past some flower seats. I'm like, dang,
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: he's old. So like now now now I'm on the
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: other side in the hot tub, like, dang, I mean
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: these meanings, you know what I do need some flower seeds.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: I gotta.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: It's different anything anything past like what thirty in the league?
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: Is anything past thirty? I get the question, Hey, man,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: so how many more years you're gonna play for the NBA?
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: You got y'all got a longer career.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: But as you know, as you get, as you get
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: up there he is, year fourteen, thirty five, he starts up.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Hey, how much long are you gonna play? Is there
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: an answer?
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: You know? What's correctly? My boy asked me the other day.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: We was in Cleveland, live in Ohio, and he was like, man, man,
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: it's been great. Bro, Like so dope, Bro, Like what's
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: naxt And the way he said it, I was like,
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: so I slowed him all little bit. I'm like, oh yeah, man,
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: you know, bro, I feel great, you know, competing at
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: a high level. You know what I'm saying.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, bro, you don't have a great run. Man.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: He started naming off stuff. He like, so what's next?
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: I started defending myself again, and like I'm going to
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: full defense mode now.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Because I'm like, all right, that's two times. He just
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: what's next? Me?
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: So I go on, I go to defending myself like, hey, bro,
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: I was third in defensive Player in the Year Voter
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: last year, first team All Defense at thirty five, Like
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: I'm still playing at a high level. I don't know
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: what's next year? Like you mean, what's next? Like I'm
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: still doing this and I'm doing that. I love, Like
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: I don't know, like you know, I'm gonna do some
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: TV stuff, but ain't no what's next.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: I'm still so I got real defensive about it. I
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: had to take a step back like yo, you're all right, bro,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: like you know and saying all of that. So then
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: I had to go there with him, like, no, bro,
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: At least another three you know what I'm saying, two
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: three years at least, you know what I'm saying.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: I'm at top of the DP on why I still
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: do this?
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: At least another three Like I said, so if if
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: my fault, if I'm there, even if I fall a
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: little bit, my fall is still out hot.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: You know. So That's where I'm at with it. Broke
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: another two three? I love that.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when were you getting mad about it? You through
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: you realize you know this passion there, this passion. I'm
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: not willing to give it up yet.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: I'm not not yet.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: Like I thought, if you asked me this two years ago,
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: I would have probably told you two years. Two years later,
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: I'm like, ah, like I'm still doing this at an
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: eligue level, and I still love to compete, Like I
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: still love going out there battling with these young guys,
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: you know, Like how went at it with Winby two
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: games in a row a few weeks ago, Like well, actual, yeah,
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: well yeah, well it was two games, so we stayed
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: in San Antonio, we played Wednesday Friday, and like just
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: like competing at that level with guys who's like he's
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: closer to my daughter's age and he's closer to my age,
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: you know, and like having those battles with young guys
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: to where you then got old guys who's long gone
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: talking about me battling a twenty one year.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Old and like, oh man, you know this, that and
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: the other the era you play.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: But you're saying this twenty one year old is great, Right,
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: I'm thirty five and you're saying hum, but you're arguing that.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Oh man, you're doing this to him. These arguments ain't
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: really making sense.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: To each other, you know, So I'm enjoying this still,
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: bro and competing at that level.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Is it's nothing to replace it?
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Like I do the podcast, you know, I do the
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: TV stuff like it's all fun, it's all great, but
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: it's nothing like when you step out there on that
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: floor at seven o'clock and it's twenty thousand fans and
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: you know, everybody in case you walk in the arena and
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: everybody you dramon like it's nothing like that.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Come on, who needs coffee?
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: When I exactly like, it's nothing like that.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: And you say that until you know and one day
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: when you do put it up, are you gonna look
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: at the game like, dang I should come back.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, can, but I have zero interest in playing
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: basketball at forty four, coming out of retirement at forty four.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: What I do, what I do believe is.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: I've given so much to this game, and I'm still
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: giving so much this game.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: When I'm done, I won't have.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: Nothing left, like like I won't have a YO in
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: three years. I'm no, I'm done, Like I've left it
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: all out there. I've seen guys over the years that
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: you know, they leave stuff in the tank and then
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: they're either going longer than they should be going, you know,
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: or always trying to come. It's because you didn't get
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: everything out of the tank that you need to get
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: out of the tank. I'm getting everything out to tank
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: that i need to get out of the tank when
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm done. Congrats to Philip, you know, if his
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: dream was to come back with the Indianapolis coach, more
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: power to him.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: But I do not foresee that being the path for me.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: I just when I'm done, they can have it.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Like I'm moving on, We'll be right back. You've played
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: your entire career with the Warriors. I played my entire
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: career with the Saints. Like there's the pride that you
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: have for playing with one team, you know. Like I've
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: never seen free agency. I've like, if I get close
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: to the end of a contract, I'm like, man, come on,
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: just update me to be I don't need to be
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: top dollar. I just want to be respected, you know.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: And then that's like I've gone peer off respect dollars.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: After I walked to the game, I said, oh, wow,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: if I could get ten million dollars, And once I
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: passed that point, I said, man, I never have to
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: work again.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: So now I'm playing for what I want.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I want the black and go to win the Super
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Bowl I want and that's what I hunt for every
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: year and if it comes short, whatever, This might be
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: the first time I've like am entering free agency or
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: whatever that looks like at fifteen, completely different landscape than
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: it would be at entering free you know, a free
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: agency at year eight. But just the idea that you
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: could play for another team, does that do something for you?
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Not really? No.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: I over the course of my fourteen years, I've entered
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: free agency a couple of times. Once I was a
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: restricted free agent after my first three years, which I
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: never truly hit free agency like that, we got a
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: deal done in like day one restrictor freance here at
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: day two.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: And then after this this current contract I'm on.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: I was a free agent technically for a little but
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: so they changed the rules to where you can negotiate
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: with your team before you can negotiate with good team.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: And so I was, you know, I was in free
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: agency and we were working on a deal right like
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: I was about the free agency, and we got a
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: deal done. So I've never really gone through the full ringroup,
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: you know, of what free ac is taking meets from
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: this team, meets from that team, you know, being towed.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: But I've never gone through that, and I'm appreciative of it.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: I've never really wanted to go play for another team.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: I understood that in this business there would always be
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: the chance, you know, or you know, I'm not going
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: to be disrespected on my contract and just say, oh man,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: I just want to play for this team, so you
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: can disrespect me. But to your point, I've never gone
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: for just absolute top dollar either, you know, where you know,
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: I could have waited six months and went for the
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: full total max. I've never done that. I've always just
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: done extensions. Uh you know, I've done extensions that helps
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: me financially, that helps the team financially, that allows us
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: to continue to build. But yeah, just like at this
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: point in my career, especially going to play for another team,
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: it's like, I don't want to do that at this point,
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: as I said, always going to want to respected for
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: what I bring, you know, and be at some sort
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: of level that of page that say yeah I'm respected
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: in that aspect, but they don't have to be the
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: absolute most I can make, like I'm doing all right.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just respect me.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Just don't disrespect me, Like, just don't go out to
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: way and be like, hey, this is it.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: This is it?
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Not like you're forcing my hand to go somewhere or
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: you know, like in my mind, I've always I've always
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: gone through it. Like it's crazy. You think about some
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: of the greats of all times, right, and you see
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: him in another jersey. Right, you got Ricky Jackson, who's
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: with the New Orleans Saints for thirteen years, and then
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: you got two years with the.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers. I'll be it a championship year.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: But it's like, dang does that so what.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: It taints the New Orleans Ricky Jackson that I that
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I think about, Like, I'm not think's Ricky Jackson.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I think New Orleans.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden you put him in a
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: red and gold jersey. You know, you got Jerry Rice,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: and all of a sudden you put them and not
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: in a Niners Like yeah, you get.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: The what it looks different? Yeah, the random Seattle jersey.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: You're like, wait, wait a.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Minute, what what is that that's.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, it didn't feel like it feels disloyal.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: It does. It's just like you've been viewed a certain way.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: You put on a jersey for so long, like you
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: become kind of synonymous with that jersey.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Once you take that jersey off, you know, and it's
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: one thing.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Once you put on a different jersey, then it becomes
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: a totally different thing, you know, and it just looks different,
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: like it's not it's not easy on the eyes, you know.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: And so I think for me personally, I don't I
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: don't want to ever put on another jersey, but I
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: don't want to be forced into retirement and I can
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: still play, you know, or like just because say my
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: team that I've been with, it's like we're kind of
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: at the end of it now if I still got
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: some left to give, and I got some left to give,
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: but I don't want to.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: I don't have interest in play for another team. I
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: just don't see it, Like it don't add up to me, right.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Even if it was a home team. You're a Detroit kid.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I'm an Arizona boy. Like, yeah, I mean as.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: Dope as it would be to play for the Pistons.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: Got respect what they got going, you know, they got
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: they got a good, young, physical team. They're putting it together.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: I always like to see the Pistons do well. So
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: as dope as it would be to like be like, man,
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: I'm playing at home, like go to State is my
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: home now, you know, like NBA basketball, that's my home,
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: you know, like, yeah, I'm from Michigan. Still got a
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: sacon Off area code nine A nine that will never change,
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: you know, like I will always be rooted there, no question.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: That's that's home for me, absolutely, But when it comes
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: to NBA basketball, like the Golden State Warriors is my home.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: I'm lucky enough to be one of the guys one
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: of the few guys in this league.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: That can say, yo, I have a home like and
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: I don't take that for granted.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: No doubt.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: All Right, last, when I'll get you out of here,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: who's your favorite NFL player to watch?
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: My favorite NFL player to watch today today, I would
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: say Jamiir Gibbs.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: He he he.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: He's an electric man like you, like you just need
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: to get the ball into his hands and like once
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: he got the ball in his hands, like anything goes.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: So I I truly enjoy watching Jamiir Gibbs.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: And then that's an offensive guy from a from a
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: from defensive siety.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Ball. It's impossible to not watch Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Miles Garrett is insane, Like.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: Like the stuff that he's doing, the euro Steps, what
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: we call you're like on these euro Steps is like
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: like they don't fit in the they don't fit in
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: the camera.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Like, I mean, it's insane. So what he's doing. And
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: then I have a huge appreciation appreciation for what Trent
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Williams is still doing as well. Elite, elite level office alignment.
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  Speaker 2: There's only one I'm gonna argue on. I can appreciate that,
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• 28:19
  Speaker 2: You know, I know, I know you are literally on
• 28:22
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  Speaker 4: Man, Thank you brother. I appreciate you having me. It's
• 28:26
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