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2120 - BONUS: Interview with Ross Mathews · Pink Shade: Reality TV with Mary Payne

• 0:14
  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Welcome to Pink Shade. Guess what, guys? This
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: is a bonus episode. You're welcome. I have the one
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: and only Ross Matthews back to chat. Hey.
• 0:26
  Speaker 2: I love that I'm a bonus episode. I love that.
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: You're a bonus. You guys, if you don't know Ross, well,
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: you live under a rock, but he's the host of
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: Drag Race. He's the co-host on the Drew Barrymore Show.
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  Speaker 1: He's an author. And most importantly to our group of people,
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  Speaker 1: the host of the 90 Day Beyonce Hunt for Love reunion. No,
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  Speaker 1: not Hunt for Love. hassle in the castle.
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  Speaker 2: Hassle in the castle listen yeah hunt for love is
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  Speaker 2: coming out soon.
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch that too yes but i
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  Speaker 1: have to.
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  Speaker 2: Tell you you were so kind to me my first
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  Speaker 2: uh hotel all hosting job when i was doing the
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  Speaker 2: single life i got to talk to you last time
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  Speaker 2: thank you for being so supportive i watched our episode
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  Speaker 2: i was in there like in the comments with your
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  Speaker 2: listeners you know i really appreciate like the support you
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  Speaker 2: were really kind to me and i was so thrilled
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  Speaker 2: at the reception to that so i'm back i'm back.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh. Yes. Everybody is so excited. They think
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  Speaker 1: this is such a perfect fit. Now, of course, we
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  Speaker 1: love our Shawn Robinson.
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  Speaker 2: Of course we love Shawn.
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  Speaker 1: We love Shawn Robinson. But I think it's fun to
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  Speaker 1: sort of mix it up because we call it the
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  Speaker 1: Sunday show and the Monday show, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So this is the second time you've done the reunion
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  Speaker 1: for the Monday show. Yeah. And the Monday show is
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  Speaker 1: sometimes a little, hmm, it's a little more spicy. And
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  Speaker 1: so I think you're a good fit.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, I just love it. I'm just grateful they let
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  Speaker 2: me in. You know, I think, I hope that came
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  Speaker 2: across in the single life tell all that I really
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  Speaker 2: love the show and I'm like invested in a way
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  Speaker 2: that I think is healthy, but I don't know. We'd
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  Speaker 2: have to talk to a therapist about it, but I
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  Speaker 2: do care, you know? And so I really, I have
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  Speaker 2: to say this is a different beast though. You know, uh,
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  Speaker 2: the last resort is really for couples. They're married couples
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  Speaker 2: really trying to save their marriage. There are kids involved.
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  Speaker 2: There are bigger stakes. And so this tell-all is a
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  Speaker 2: different beast. You're going to see a lot of drama,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of tears, heartbreak, desperation, really. I took it
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  Speaker 2: very seriously. I really want to deliver for you guys.
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  Speaker 2: I hope I make you proud again.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think that because you're such an avid viewer
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  Speaker 1: that it comes across in the questions that you ask
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  Speaker 1: because you kind of don't let something fly because you're like, no,
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  Speaker 1: wait a minute. I watched that episode and I can
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  Speaker 1: tell you X, Y, Z.
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  Speaker 2: Now, not only I watched that episode, but I've been
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  Speaker 2: watching you since your first season and I know how you,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like that comes in real
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  Speaker 2: handy when you're doing things. Cause you can sort of,
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  Speaker 2: you'd understand when some people are being evasive, all of that.
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  Speaker 2: And I do want to like ask the questions that
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  Speaker 2: I want to know. And I think I go in
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  Speaker 2: there as a representative of the fans. I'm keeping my notebook,
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: you know, when I'm watching it, I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: you do the same thing. But I have my notebook
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  Speaker 2: and I got my questions going. I have larger themes.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes you have to make the call, like let something
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  Speaker 2: go for the bigger question. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: You can't get every answer. You just have to be,
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  Speaker 2: you have to discern what's most important, you think, to
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  Speaker 2: the audience.
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  Speaker 1: So we just had the 90 Day OG Part 1
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  Speaker 1: tell all with Sean.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I watched it. Yes, of course.
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  Speaker 1: And we... We're disappointed that, and maybe it's coming up
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  Speaker 1: later because it is three parts. Sometimes they circle back.
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  Speaker 1: We were disappointed that they didn't give us more clips
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  Speaker 1: of Marissa being mean to Edward. The only one we
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  Speaker 1: got was about the fence. And we're like, there were
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  Speaker 1: 30 clips we could have shown. Or maybe it's just like,
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  Speaker 1: we get it. She thinks he's dumb. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean?
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  Speaker 2: I think maybe we get it at this point. To
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  Speaker 2: be quite frank, I'm good not seeing those clips anymore.
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  Speaker 2: They were so uncomfortable that one was just sort of representative.
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  Speaker 2: But who knows? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen it.
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  Speaker 2: So didn't it feel like she kind of owned her
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  Speaker 2: behavior a little bit? She said, I feel awful watching that.
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  Speaker 2: I feel awful.
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  Speaker 1: She felt awful, Ross. But she sat down and said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: don't go on tangents.
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  Speaker 2: Never mind.
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  Speaker 1: You don't know what that means.
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  Speaker 2: Oh God. Yeah. No, listen, it's rough. I hope, I hope, listen,
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  Speaker 2: oh God. I hope, I would like to think there's
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  Speaker 2: some reflection going on for everybody. Not, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean? Like if there was a camera on you
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  Speaker 2: or me and like we saw our behavior in a
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  Speaker 2: couple of months, I'm sure there's a couple of things
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  Speaker 2: we'd be like, oh God, is that what I do?
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  Speaker 2: You know? Oh sure. So I don't want to be
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  Speaker 2: too harsh on these people, but yeah, I really hope
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  Speaker 2: she's reflecting a little bit because she was harsh. And
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  Speaker 2: I do have to say, I loved, I forget who
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  Speaker 2: it was. It said like, you know, but he speaks
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  Speaker 2: two languages. You're calling him dumb, but he's like sitting here,
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  Speaker 2: you wouldn't even have a relationship if he didn't know English.
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  Speaker 2: And it's true. You know, you have to, you have
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  Speaker 2: to think, I mean, my husband was born in the
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  Speaker 2: Dominican Republic. He comes here, he knows two languages. He
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  Speaker 2: is so vastly more and more intelligent than I am.
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  Speaker 2: And so I hate when people get a rap just
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  Speaker 2: because they're like, they don't have a grasp with the
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  Speaker 2: language that you speak. You think they're stupid. It's so ethnocentric,
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  Speaker 2: which is a word I learned in college.
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  Speaker 1: Ah, ah, well, I did like, I got to tell you,
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  Speaker 1: we were clapping on our couches when Sean Robinson's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: let me ask you this.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: When you go over there and you don't speak their language,
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  Speaker 1: do you think they think you're unintelligent? Great question.
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  Speaker 2: Right? Yes.
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  Speaker 1: So good.
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  Speaker 2: Great question.
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  Speaker 1: So good. So good. Then she kept going with it.
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  Speaker 1: She didn't let it go either. We were like, OK,
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  Speaker 1: Sean Robinson, you go, girl.
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  Speaker 2: That was a great moment. That's a great tell all
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  Speaker 2: moment because that's what these are for. You hope that
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  Speaker 2: they have watched and they're coming back with some perspective
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  Speaker 2: on themselves. And if they don't have it, I think
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  Speaker 2: you got to sort of like highlight it for them.
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  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. When Kara walked in to
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  Speaker 1: this reunion, what were your thoughts?
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  Speaker 2: Thrilled.
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  Speaker 1: Thrilled. Okay. Do you think she, do you think she
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  Speaker 1: did it for you? She did it for the gays. I,
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  Speaker 1: you know what?
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  Speaker 2: I think she did it for the right reasons. I
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  Speaker 2: think she did it to give them something to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? I do. She's smart like that.
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  Speaker 2: She's a smart girl and she's getting the most. And I'm,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, when I say this, this is not shade.
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  Speaker 2: She's getting the most mileage out of this as she can. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Which is.
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  Speaker 1: I like Kara and maybe you and I are the only,
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  Speaker 1: you can, maybe you and I are the only ones.
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  Speaker 1: But I really like Kara. She gets so much shit online.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think she cares.
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  Speaker 1: No, no. She definitely doesn't care. But our whole thing,
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  Speaker 1: the whole time she and Guillermo were together, every time
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  Speaker 1: they're together, we're like, why can't these two hot people
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  Speaker 1: make it work?
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  Speaker 2: I know. Or at least, like, do it one more time.
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  Speaker 1: Just do it. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Just do it.
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  Speaker 1: Please, just once.
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  Speaker 2: You're so beautiful. Just do it. And, like, let the
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  Speaker 2: cameras roll. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Every time I was like, do it, do it, do it,
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  Speaker 1: do it.
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  Speaker 2: How strong was he to just, like, at that one
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  Speaker 2: moment at the tall or the, um, the last resort,
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  Speaker 2: like the night before the commitment ceremony, they're all hot
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  Speaker 2: and heavy. And he just stands up, shakes her hand
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  Speaker 2: and walks out. I'm like, how blue are your balls
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  Speaker 2: right now? Guillermo, right? How did he do that?
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  Speaker 1: They both had to, they both had to take themselves
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  Speaker 1: to an interior room immediately. Okay. Now here's a question
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  Speaker 1: for you.
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  Speaker 2: Anything.
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  Speaker 1: If you had to choose, would you rather go caving
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  Speaker 1: or rappelling?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 1: And would you do it for love? Because I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if I would.
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  Speaker 2: Can I just sit home and watch 90 Day at
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  Speaker 2: the castle? You know what I mean? Like, I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to do it either. I'm not really an activity
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  Speaker 2: person necessarily, unless it's happy hour, right? Like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the biggest activity I want to do is half off
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  Speaker 2: jalapeno poppers and a house lunch. So, yeah, neither. The
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  Speaker 2: caving seemed awful.
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  Speaker 1: Horrible.
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  Speaker 2: A claustrophobic awful. So I guess rappelling because it's just
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  Speaker 2: like get me to the ground as fast as gravity
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  Speaker 2: can do it and get this over with.
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  Speaker 1: I've done rappelling before. I had to do it at
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  Speaker 1: camp one time in my youth. I'll never forget it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you literally step backwards off a cliff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I want to do that. Uh-uh.
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  Speaker 1: Uh-uh. I would be like, I'm on the ground. I'm
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  Speaker 1: on the ground. I'm very good. But the caving, they
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  Speaker 1: didn't have a choice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the caving. You know, I guess I could just
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  Speaker 2: go to those little lakes in the caving. But when, like,
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  Speaker 2: Sarper was trying to go to those tight little spots
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  Speaker 2: and getting stuck. And, no, that would be like, William
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  Speaker 2: Shatner would come down and be Rescue 911 on a
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  Speaker 2: new episode.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I, there was no way. And then at the
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  Speaker 1: end to add insult to injury, they had to zip
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  Speaker 1: line out of there.
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  Speaker 2: That I would do. I like the zip lining.
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  Speaker 1: I think that was fun. Yeah. And it wasn't, it
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  Speaker 1: was pretty low. So if you fell, you probably might
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: just break an ankle.
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  Speaker 2: Totally. You know, you got to do what you got
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  Speaker 2: to do for love.
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  Speaker 1: Um, how did you feel about Dr.
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  Speaker 2: Tara?
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  Speaker 1: I felt like coming in, none of the couples really
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  Speaker 1: had major sex issues except for Patrick and Thais, where
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  Speaker 1: he is like over sex and she's like, Like, I'm young,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm tired. So they send them to the sex dungeon.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Russ and Pal had sex issues, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, our joke the whole time was Dr. Tyrone hated
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  Speaker 1: Russ so bad. You could tell every time he would talk, Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Tyrone was like, just do it or I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: throw her in the fire and do it for you.
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  Speaker 1: Let me show you how. Like, it was every time.
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  Speaker 2: You got to get Dr. Tyrone on here and ask him.
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  Speaker 1: I would never. That's so insulting to a professional. Um, but,
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  Speaker 1: but how did you feel about the sex dungeon? I
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: kind of felt like maybe it was, you know, it
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  Speaker 1: was a fun episode and I get, you know, visually
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  Speaker 1: they needed to do it and all that, but I
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  Speaker 1: just didn't, I think Dr. Tara maybe didn't have much
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  Speaker 1: to do.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I mean, listen, I liked, I
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: think sex is a big part of a relationship, right?
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  Speaker 2: So you kind of got to talk about, it. I
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  Speaker 2: think there's legitimate sex issues with some of these couples.
• 9:59
  Speaker 2: For me, it was worth it just to see Jenny
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: walk Sumit like a dog. You know, like that, that
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  Speaker 2: is like spank pick material I didn't want or need.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, not me. No, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: So wild.
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: I love that this show can still like shock us,
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: you know, even when I'm like, what are they, what
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: is going on? And then you go, well, that was
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: worth it. Jenny walking Sumit with Alicia. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Well, when Patrick came out in that skin tight shirt,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I mean, it's so funny.
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: Like, can you believe some of the stuff that happens? Like,
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: specifically on this season. The ghost with the tarot card reader.
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Ross, I looked her up. Because we were like, this
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: is a missed opportunity. Like, that place is legit haunted.
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  Speaker 1: It has been on an episode of Ghost Hunters. That
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: ID show. Yes. Like, it is legit haunted. And we
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  Speaker 1: were like, this is a missed opportunity to really... do something,
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: you know? And then instead it's like, pal, we heard
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: your dad was mean to you or Rebecca. We heard
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: your boyfriend is in the words of Sophie online, cheating.
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: And I was like, this is a missed opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: really kind of get into the, I would have been
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  Speaker 1: super interested in the ghosts.
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, the castle was so haunted that Guillermo ghosted Cara.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: That sounds like a drag race joke.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what are you going to do? I can't
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: help myself.
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: You can't help yourself. Okay, y'all. What is one thing
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: you do to feel good? For me, even if I'm
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: just running some errands, I always put on mascara. It
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: gives me confidence that I look okay when I go
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: out because you never know who you might run into.
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: I could see producer Ingrid at the store and she'd
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: be like, girl, what's wrong with you? You know, and
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: also sometimes you need a little refresh. So you might
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: change up your lip color or cut your hair a
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: little shorter or These are all just things you can
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• 13:31
  Speaker 1: let's talk about when this tell-all was filmed. When did
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: you film it?
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: In a time, in a place that's not important. I mean,
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm supposed to say when we
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: did it, but you know, they got to edit it.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: Well, right, right, right.
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  Speaker 2: So long enough ago that they could have put it together.
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  Speaker 2: So you know what I mean for television. But not
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: crazy amount of time long ago. It wasn't that long ago. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: The reason I'm asking this is because in December last year,
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: TLC had the 90-day Christmas party in New York. And
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: I was there and Jenny was there. And we met
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  Speaker 1: her and we were thrilled. Our first thought is, holy cow,
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: we never knew Jenny was like up to my shoulder
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  Speaker 1: and I'm only 5'5. She's so tiny. And she was
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: lovely and we loved talking to her. She told us
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: all about the parents who moved out of the apartment
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: and the family cafe. Nobody wanted to work. She gave
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: us the whole scoop. And at the time, right after
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: that was when people started posting online that fans were
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: alarmed at how her speech was.
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  Speaker 2: I was following all that and with her daughter who
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: was so lovely.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and her daughter who's so great and was saying, like,
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: we're on it. We're trying to– and her daughter went there.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: And then, of course, she eventually got the ALS diagnosis.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: So that's why I'm wondering if it was– how much
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: after that time it was when you were able to
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: see her.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: It's summer. Summer. Okay. And I would say, you know,
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: as you'll see– And, um, we, we, we don't shy
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: away from this in the tell all we, we talked
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: to her about her health, um, what it means now,
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: what it means in the future, how submit who has
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: been in a tug of war with, you know, loyalty
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: to his parents versus loyalty to Jenny, how, and if
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: he's stepping up to be a caretaker. Um, but we mostly, we,
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: most importantly, we talk about the diagnosis and her health and,
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: you know, she's very candid about, um, how she is now, um,
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: and how dramatically her health has turned.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: She has this attitude and I don't want to speak
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: for her. I want her to speak for herself, but
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: I will say, I just, I didn't expect to go
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: into this tell-all and be one of the people crying,
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: but it was really beautiful. Um, Jenny, Jenny is kind
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: of extraordinary and, Yeah. I'm eager for people to connect
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: with her in that way. I don't want to speak
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: for her, so I just want people to watch it.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: But we don't shy away from any of it.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, good. Because, you know, for those of us, you know,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: who've watched it from day one, we know their story.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: And so when we were covering The Last Resort, we
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: were really– we were– recapping what we saw, we're trying
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: not to do it with the lens of, we know
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: now that she's not well or any of it. We were,
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: so we were like making our jokes about, um, we
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: know Jenny's never going to, she talks about submit going
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: in a circle. And, and I was like, she, she
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: also goes in a circle. She never, she, she found
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: out he had another wife and didn't even leave. Um,
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: but you.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Know, how long have we been following Jenny and Smith?
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Now think about the journey they've taken on with them.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: That's wild. Um, Remember at the very beginning, he sent
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: her a different photo, even, you.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Know, his name was like Michael Crawford and it was
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: some like buff Australian guy coming out of the water.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: He has grown so much. You think about that, like
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: how to be that insecure to where he is now
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: is amazing. Right. That is.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Listen, she took his virginity in the upstairs of the
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: house when the mom was in the house. I mean,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: she has said that. I was like, I.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Love it. We know that.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I know. Anyway, I love them and I've always loved
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: their love, even though he is like a nonstop, you know,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: man child. He's avoidant times a million, but they just
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: love each other so much.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: They do. There is great love there. That's always been evident.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: And I'll tell you, it's more evident than ever. It
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: really is. I'm really, in a way, and you'll see why,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: I'm very proud of Sumit.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, good. All right. I'm so glad to hear that. Now,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: all right. This Patrick and Thais, this is another situation
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: where we're like, how come these hot people can't make
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: it work? Although we don't necessarily think Patrick is so hot.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: But they are so at the last resort. They are
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: the only couple that when they see each other, they
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: hug and they kiss. When they're with each other, they're
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: holding hands. They seem to have genuine... attraction and love
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: for each other and affection, right? Just affection.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: And I will argue, I think, I think Patrick's very
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: good looking, you know, I really in person and I'm married.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: I don't say it like in a lustful way, but I.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Okay. But I will tell you that shocked me the most.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: I saw them commit at the final episode. If you
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: haven't seen the final episode of where have you been,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: but they recommit and this beautiful recommitment, wherever you go,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: I'll follow. Right. Right.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: And then we see the headlines everywhere. of arrests, divorce, right?
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: And these headlines are like TMZ, like top of the
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: top sort of pop culture echelon, right?
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: We had to go there. Listen, there are legal things.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: There are reasons. They have to be delicate about certain
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: things with that, you know? I mean, there was an arrest.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: But I would not have gone there. I wouldn't go
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: to this tell all and not bring that up. That'd
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: be a disservice to the viewers. So I have to,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I set it up. And I ask, what do you
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: have to say about that? And I think there was
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: some hesitancy to talk. And you know, the best way
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: to get people to talk is silence.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Right? Yes. So you will see me not pushing too
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: hard because I didn't want to shut them up. But
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: let me tell you something. We get everything. We find out,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: you know, we find out as much as we can
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: about what happened, but also how that was a fracture.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: and what happened from that point, you know? Um, and I,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Patrick was a little tight. He, he, I don't know
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: that he was thrilled to be there necessarily. Um, but I,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: you know, we really opened them up. I have to say,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: and yeah, I'm not convinced they're done. Okay.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Well, I just, we, the whole time we're watching it,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: like when they went to that bar opium and they're
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: all down there and immediately everybody comes in separate.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: So well, you know, the name of the bar, you
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: study it so well. Yeah.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Of course, now I'm like, next time I'm in Bath,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I'm going to opium.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Of course. Proud of you.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: But, you know, you're like, they go in, and the
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: first thing we notice is the two of them immediately
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: go to each other, and they're like hugging.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: And we kept going, what happened here?
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: What could have happened? That's the question I ask. What happened?
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: What happened?
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: In my head, I can't reconcile... what I saw happened
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: at the end of the tell all the recommitment ceremony,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: the end of the resort at the recommitment ceremony and
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: how they are at the tell all, I cannot understand
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: what happened between then and now. And so we go there,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: we try to try to get the answer, but I'm
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: telling you, I also am relentless that there's still love there.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: At least, at least from one side, there's still love there.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: It's okay.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I can't wait for you to
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: see it in person. Speaking to people that are short,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Thais was also at that, uh, holiday party yeah and
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: she's at amazon she's so tall.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: She's so god you know i should have gone to
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: that holiday party i was invited i couldn't go i
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: should have gone can you but i know i know
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: was it the boat one which one was.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: It no the boat one was really good too we
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: went all the way to the statue of liberty with
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: the immigrants the boat wow it was incredible no this
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: one was at tavern on the green oh yeah yeah
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: with all the little this twinkle lights and the thing and.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I need to really check my priorities. The fact that
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: I couldn't make that work.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Darcy and Stacy were there. Of course. And then we
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: did an after party.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: No one knows this, but I went to Chili's with
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Darcy and Stacy. I've never told a single soul this.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Okay. Were you involved in one of those mukbang videos
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: where they're eating?
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: No, but I asked them, I wanted, I said, I
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: need you to take me to a Chili's and I
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: want to taste, but like, I want to do the
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: cheese pull. You know, she does the cheese pull on
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: the mozzarella sticks.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: I did all that with them. I did it all.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Where was this chili located?
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I was in Connecticut. I, yeah, I did it. And
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: we filmed some, maybe I'll release it one day. I
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: don't know, but I did. I had in Georgie and
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: my husband, Wellington, we went to a chill. I just
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: was like, I love their little video. I love Stacey
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: and Darcy. Of course, like legitimately. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I love their food reviews. You know, I like that.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: They taste, I love the noises they make when they
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: eat and taste. Sure. Sure. You know, I wanted to
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: see it up close and I did, and it was great.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: And they're lovely. And like, They're just sweet. They're really sweet.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: They are sweet. They do talk in Home Good sayings.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: They do only talk in platitudes. There's a little bit
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: of that.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: There's a little bit of.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Hashtag boss. Hashtag power couple.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Kitchen's the heart of the home. Right. There's
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: a lot of like sayings.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Home is where the heart is and your heart is
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: not with me. Yes.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. There's a lot of that. By the way, not
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: making fun of you, Stacey and Darcy, just observing.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I met them at that party and they were great.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: And they are also teeny tiny, teeny tiny. It's so
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: funny when you see people in person like, Jamal is
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: exactly the height and size you would think he would be.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: And so is Josh. Rob is a bit shorter, but
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: also so good looking that he's hard to look at directly.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, interesting.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: You know, everybody is what you think they are. And
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: then you see like Thais, who's super tall. And then
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Jenny and Darcy and Stacey, who are like scraping five feet. Totally.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, little. Yeah, itty bitty. Anyway, please lead with that
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: as the headline here, in addition to Tell All's Part
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: 1 and 2 of The Last Resort. But Ross had
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Chili's dinner with Stacey and Darcy. That's a scoop. I've
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: never told anybody.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: It's a scoop. It's exclusive.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: It is exclusive, yeah.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Also, speaking of people in person, Guillermo.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: We are all hot for Guillermo. Sure, of course. He's corny,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: and he talks about sex... too descriptively for my taste, um,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: in public, but he's hot. Okay. And did you find
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: him intense? Did you find him attractive in person?
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Um, I want to just, again, reiterate that I'm married
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: and not lustful.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: For other people, but I do get it. Nobody thinks
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: you're lustful for other people.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, good.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I feel that your husband's in the room, like.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: No, I just wanted, I would never be disrespectful to
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: my husband. So I just want to say that out loud,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: but listen, yeah, I get it. And I do think
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: that there are, I think that attraction is one of
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: the things that has affected their bond in that. Like,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: I think that's still there, but there's just too much
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: miscommunication and expectations and disappointments for them to wade through.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: And I think, you know, Kara's, entrepreneurship was a bridge
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: too far for him. I just think he could never
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: get over that. And I, but I think he wanted to,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I think that's why he was at the resort. Part
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: of me, when the, when the season first started, I
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: was like, who is really here for their marriage and
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: who's here for the camera. Right. That's a legitimate question
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: at the beginning. What I came to learn watching and
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: then especially at the tell-all is that they were there
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: for their marriage. All these people were there for their marriage.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Guillermo included. I just don't think he could quite get there.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: You know, and we go after him about the ghosting
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: at the commitment ceremony. Of course we go there. You know,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: because I read everything online from that he was a
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: coward to some people getting why he did it. So
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: I wanted to know what he had to say for himself.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: And he does the best he can to explain himself.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I think that he could have respectfully told Kara exactly
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: what he said to us. That, of course, when you
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: love someone, you always love them. But he feels that
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: it's just not going to work for X, Y, Z reason.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: He wants to co-parent with her. He wants to continue
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: to support her and have her support him and be
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: great parents. And they've made a beautiful child and they
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: had a beautiful life. But it's over. He could have
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: said that respectfully. And I didn't like when he was packing.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: He said, if I go to the commitment ceremony, there's
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: going to be all this yelling. she wasn't going to
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: yell at him. She was probably going to cry and
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: say she understands.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: But maybe that comes from past experiences with her. There
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: are things we don't know necessarily. I don't know if
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: it was avoidance on Guillermo's part or life experience, lived
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: experience that he knew it was best not to go.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: But what I want to know if he stands by
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: it and we're going to find out.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: And I didn't like too because on the actual show,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Patrick was like, oh, yeah, I'm glad he did that.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: That was great. He totally, like, he deserved to do that, blah, blah, blah.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: And then on, between the sheets, he's sitting there with Kara.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, that was terrible. I can't believe he
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: did that. Patrick.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Patrick. You know two things can be true at
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: the same time.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: You're so diplomatic. I know.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, I am, but I'm not. Listen, I'm human,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: so I'm like, I want to give them we all
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: say things like that, but the tell all is where
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: you need to come clean and what you really feel.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: So that's where we're going to get these answers. Oh, Patrick.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Um, now I will say it's too bad that she
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: kind of didn't come because, because I understand she was
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: fighting with all the other people and she didn't want
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: to feel like she was being ganged up on, but
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: she really did in a way that maybe she didn't
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: realize she had a lot of the cast behind her
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: on the way that Sarper spoke to her. They were
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: on her side in that way. And except for Zied,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: because he's like, you know, Sarper as my, as my
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: bro Migo, but, but they were all kind of like, we,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: we may not love her, but the way he speaks
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: to her is terrible.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I, I think it was a real missed opportunity
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: for Shekinah not to come. I want to tell you
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: just like, and I want her to know I've never
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: met her, but I was a fan of hers. Right.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: I loved her for all her seasons. I thought this
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: is sort of a new Shekinah that we saw at
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: the resort. And I wanted to know why. Again, the
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: tell-all is a chance for people to come clean, set
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: the record straight, explain themselves, learn from their behavior, own it,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: all of that stuff. I thought it could have been
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: a chance for her to sort of reset herself, you know?
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: I will tell you also, though, it was important to
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: me that we not pile up on Shekinah. I have
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: no interest in that, piling up on somebody. So luckily
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: for us, she has been very vocal on her social media, right?
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Very vocal.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Lucky for us, okay.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean, lucky for us in that, like,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: because I wanted to bring Shekinah's point of view to
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: the table, you know, to the tell-all. And so in
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: that way, we could. Because I didn't want it to
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: be just one-sided. Okay. So she's not there, but her
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: point of view is there in the best way that
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I could.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I just, I'm sorry that she did that because
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: I feel like, yes, she could have actually said, I'm
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: sorry for what I said to Thais. But then, you know,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: I did double down at the end and say, well,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: she said she wanted to go back to Brazil, but
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: she didn't like it when I said it. Oh, girl,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: just whoosh. Just one step too far. Just quit talking.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: That's it. You know, I think we can all forgive mistakes,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: but it's the doubling down. Yeah. But even with all that,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: had she come to the tell all and mea culpa, you.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Know, I said I was in a horrible place with
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Sarper and I was not acting like myself and I
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: apologize for my behavior, but I was. in such a
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: bad headspace that all the anger was coming out.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Totally. And misdirected anger. And I was in a
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: corner and I was trapped and I was scared and
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: I was, we would understand, you know, and I really think,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but I, I listen, I don't want to,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: does it matter what I think? I guess it does.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: I do think that's the case. Like, I don't think
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: she's an awful person. We spent a lot of time
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: with Shekinah before and she wasn't an awful person, you know? Right.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: So I just would have, and I would never, I
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: would have brought her there and said the same thing
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: to her, you know, was that just an awful moment?
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: that you're doubling down on, you know? Yeah.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I think you would have been very gentle
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: with her.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I would have been firm, but not mean. And I,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: and I would have given her space to explain it. Yeah.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: That's what I wanted to do. But I'm going to
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: tell you, we do have somebody who comes on, who
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: gives us insight into Shikina's mind. Now, somebody we know
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: and love. Okay. So just that's a deep tease.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Okay. I hate that. Um, I love that. You know,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I actually, okay. We have a mutual friend, Heather McDonald.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, I love, you know how much I love her.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: And you know that she had that juicy scoop 10th
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: anniversary party last year. And I went, I flew into,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I just flew into LA, went to the party and
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: like flew home because I, I will, I will travel
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: for an event. Just everybody that's listening, just invite me.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I'll come. Um, I don't care. I'll hop on a plane. Um, So,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: and my friend Matt Marr went with me that you've
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: met from Reality Gaze.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: I love, love, love them. I just spoke to them.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Yes. So Matt went with me as my date and
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: we're standing there and Heather tells me, she goes, I
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: wanted to tell you that my PR people have some
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: of these 90 day people coming, but I don't know.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: And she just kind of.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Blew it off.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I was like, what? Who? And she was like, I
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: don't know. My PR people are having them come, blah, blah, blah.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: It was Shekinah and Zarper.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: So great.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: And she didn't know them. They were just there because
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: they had a mutual PR team or something. And Matt
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: and I were the only people talking to them because
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: nobody there knew.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Who we were. Did you lose your mind when they
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: walked in? Yeah.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: And I have to tell you that Sarper, I told him,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: here's the two funny things he said. First funny thing
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I said, what do you think about Shekinah's sisters? We
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: think they should have their own spinoff. And he said, no.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: When they come towards you, it's like the cast from
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: that movie Twilight. Right. They're all vampires.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: He said they're so scary.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: I am fascinated by her sisters. Uh-huh.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: And that dynamic. Me too. And then he said, no,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: they all fight. It would be terrible. And I said, well,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: that's why. It would be good. And then we told
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: him our idea, which is that he needs to have
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: a calendar of Turkish sayings with like a shirtless picture
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: every month of like in Turkey we have saying.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. You know that I. I love those Turkish
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: sayings so much.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Some of them make no sense.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: You might get a couple of those on the tell-all.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, good. I mean, a couple of seasons. At the
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: season where they were getting married, it was literally like,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: in Turkey we have saying, pig go into hen house,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: and hen house has the biggest dick, and then you
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: give your phone. And we're like, I know.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: But then the worst part is every once in a while,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: they make so much sense and they're so appropriate for
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: the moment. And they're so, you know, that's like, and
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: so you never know what you're going to get. Yeah.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: But I'm always down for the journey.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Well, we told him the calendar idea and then, yeah,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: we were.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: Like, have you seen the standup yet?
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Uh, no, he and she kind of came to Baltimore,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: which was, is the closest to me here in DC.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: And it, it was like laugh bootcamp. And I was like, well,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: you know how I feel about exercising. I'm not, I'm
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: not going to, I'm not doing that. But if he
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: did a comedy show, I was going to go. And
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: then later he did a comedy show, but I was
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: out of town. But if he comes back around this way,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I'm going to definitely go.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: I went, I went to it when he was in Prince.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Of course you did.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: And of course I had to, we brought all about
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: a ton of my 90 day people from the text chain,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: you know, Nikki, Arlene, we all went and you got
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: to go.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Um, I've heard that it's a lot of, uh, take
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: my wife, please. Kind of jokes. Okay. But, but listen,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: he's making money.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then, and then just like with everything else,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: there's like, sometimes it's like, I remember I was like,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: that was funny.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Like that was, that was good.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: You know? Yeah. So like, it's a, it's a very, it's,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: it is, it's a channel that you would want to watch.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Let me just say that. Okay.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: So y'all, we're heading into fall and it's time to
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: get rid of stuff in your closet. I call it
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: fall clean out. I really love it. I end up
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: getting rid of so much stuff that I didn't wear
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: all summer and also stuff that I never wore last fall.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: But what I never get rid of are my quince pieces.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: My quince pieces are the staples of my fall wardrobe.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: The cashmere cardigans are perfect for this time of year.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: You could just throw them on if it gets chilly.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: I always have one nearby, white or black, of course,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: because I'm basic. And I'm also obsessed with their stretch denim.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: It's so great for this time of year because it's
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: stretchy and it's light and it doesn't feel too hot
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: because it's not quite winter. Lately, I have been on
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: a Quince shoe kick. I just got the cutest boots
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: are going to look great on my upcoming trip. And
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: since I'm doing so much traveling, I just added another
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Quince suitcase blue to my collection and an Italian leather
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: travel bag for the plane because I need to look
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: chic while I'm traveling. Quince makes elevated everyday essentials using
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  Speaker 1: The designs are timeless, thoughtfully crafted, and made to be
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: worn again and again, which is great because I'm literally
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: wearing all of my Quince pieces over and over. And
• 35:55
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• 36:43
  Speaker 1: That's q-u-i-n-c-e dot com slash pinkshade. Okay, let's talk about
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: the therapist on the show, okay?
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: So we have Dr. Tyrone, who every time he came
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: on the screen, we're like, hello, Tyrone. And then we
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: had Persia, who doesn't seem to have any sort of
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: like therapy degree. She's like a life coach. And then
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: we had Tara, who likes to talk about sex. If
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: you had to have a therapist, if you and Wellington
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: had to go to a therapist, who would you choose?
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, out of them?
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. From Dr. Tyrone, Dr. Tara, or Portia. Yeah.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: It's Persia.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Persia. When I say Porsche, you said Porsche.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: And that's crazy. Cause my cohost, Kimberly called her Porsche
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: the whole season. I was like, it's Persia. It's Persia.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: It's Persia. Of course it is. Um, I would probably go,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, I think, I think they all are
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: qualified to do this kind of work.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: There are things.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yes, of course. And I'm, you know what I mean? Uh,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: who would I go to? Um, I mean, I'm curious
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: about the sex dungeon.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: A little bit.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Like, you know, put me in an outfit like that.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Don't you want to see me in chaps?
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I'd like to see you in those little, those little,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: the little thing that Guillermo was wearing.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Give me a whip. Can you imagine?
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: And the hat. The hat.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Total dom.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Wellington's like.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Listen to my voice. Imagine you're a bad boy. Yeah.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: So that'd be funny. I would do that. Okay.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: We'll let, we'll let Wellington know to be afraid. Um, okay. Now,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: last time we played this game. Now we will once again,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: say you're a married man.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah okay now you're doing now you're we're going overboard
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: because i was going overboard with.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: It yeah yeah so now i get statement yeah yeah
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: yeah so now we're doing it okay great so we're
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: gonna do instead of fuck marry kill i don't like
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: to say kill because that's not nice so we say
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: shag because it's british shag marry.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Exile okay shag marry exile got it.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Okay patrick submit and russ okay These choices are only
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: going to get worse.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is all awful. Okay. I would check Patrick.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, because he seems to know what he's doing.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: He seems to be proud. of how good he is
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: at it. And so that, I'd want to know.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: I would... What was the other one? Something exile.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Marry and exile.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: I would marry Sumit. Uh-huh.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Because he's sweet.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And like, you know, I could walk him. You know,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: they're into that now, right? And then I would exile... Russ,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: just because Russ, I feel, has a hard time hearing
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: what is being said to him.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Well, that's a nice way of saying that. Mm-hmm.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Russ, geez. Okay. Shag, Mary, Exile, the bad boy edition, Jamal, Rob,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: and Josh. Even though we know that Jamal is no
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: longer with the bad boys.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: I know. That's, I mean, right? It hasn't been that
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: torn up since the Spice Girls broke up. Terrible.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Terrible.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Terrible. Um, okay. Shag, marry, exile. Okay. I would probably, um, God,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: this is really, this is really difficult. Um, because this
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: could go either way right now. You understand?
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Okay. I'm going to, I'm going to exile Josh. Josh.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: because the way he came on, and I like Josh
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: a lot. I always like when he's on, but I'm
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: not exactly sure how he got into this world. Just
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: like dating Natalie, right? Exactly.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Why are you here?
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: His origin story doesn't make sense to me, but I
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: don't want him to go anywhere.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Just he's going to go to an island for a bit. Great.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: And I'm so curious. I can't wait to see what
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: happens there. I really like him, but I just.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, ready?
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: So I need an origin story to really get into this.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: I would probably... Shag, Rob, Mary, Jamal, because I love
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Kimberly and I'd love to have her as a mother-in-law.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Perfect. Perfect. Okay. I told you these are going to
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: get harder. So Shag, Mary, Exile from the current 90
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Day OG season.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Josh of Josh and Katie. Josh, Mido, Rashid.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I told you they're getting harder. The next one's going
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: to be worse.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Okay. I love this game. I would
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: exile Mito. I would exile Mito.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, good. Good choice.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: I would... Who's the other? It was Josh and you
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: said someone... Rashid. I'm taking it that I'm going to
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Fantasyland and, like, pick Rashid.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: So I would shag Rashid and marry Josh. And the
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: reason is because, like, you marry Josh, you can do anything. Right? Like, he...
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: He doesn't care. He doesn't care. You just do anything
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: you want. He does not care. He's going to be
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: fine with it. Yeah.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: And by the way, on this latest episode where he
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: said he's trying to be a journalist, I think he's
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: confusing those words journalist with influencer because he's just always
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: on the gram talking.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Just talking to the camera always.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Interesting. But that storyline is fascinating, the Katie and John.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, really fascinating, right?
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Speaking of... Somebody who could use three therapists. I mean,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: God bless.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: This is one of those moments. And she gets so much,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: so many opinions on her way, you know? And so, like,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: you got to feel for everybody a little bit. But, wow,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: you know, it's all coming from behavior. So this is
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: a learning opportunity, Katie.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: I was so bad at New Year's. I was bad.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: I kissed four people. I was bad. I was so bad.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: I was making out with four different guys.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know if things would have gone further, but
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: luckily my friends stopped me.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I was wearing a short skirt, but
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: No, this is not shaming. If people want to do that,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: they should be able to do that.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: It's not consensual. Right.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: And also, you're married.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: And you're married.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: To somebody who asked you not to do that.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: And you agreed to be monogamous in your marriage.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Precisely. But if someone's single and they want to do that, girl,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: have fun. Do your thing as long as it's consensual.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: If you're in an open marriage and it's all fine,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: do what you want. But this is not the case.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: That's not the case.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine?
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: No. No.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. I would be like, oh, immediate divorce. Okay.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: We wouldn't get married in the first place, right? There
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: were some warning signs along the way, just FYI.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: She's like, I didn't even want you to come here, God.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Now you want to buy a couch?
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Hold on. I know we're getting married tomorrow, but like,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: it's like, Marriage serious is like real. Is it serious?
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Like, are you think I could never make out with anybody?
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Just like one time. Like what about New Year's? You know.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Okay. Last one. Shag Mary exile from the current season
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: of 90 day OG. Thomas. Shay. Maxwell. Wait.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Thomas Shea, Maxwell, Maxwell, Maxwell.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Maxwell, Asia and Maxwell in Nigeria.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. Of course. Thank you so much. Um,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: by the way, I love her.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: I love Asia. Right.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: At first I was like, I don't know. And now
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: I have, she is so determined. Like even when the
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: mother of Maxwell is telling her, no, her family's telling her, no,
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: she's like, it has been ordained by God.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Like there is no way we're in her. And that's it.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: And that's it.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: And she, and she convinces them all, you know, and
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: she's just so, I just love her. Like I would
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: hire her to represent me in any court.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: She says Sarah in the Bible was 99. Right. Who
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: are you to judge me? I'm not even 40.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: 40.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Argue with that.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Um, okay. I, so Shay.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Thomas Maxwell.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Okay. I'd have to exile, uh, Thomas. Because I mean,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: I have too many fragrances.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: You'd love a candle.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: I love, I love a scented candle. You should see
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: my cologne collection. You know what I mean?
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: I love a room spray.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: When people are coming over, you have to spray the
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: decorative throw pillows. You must. Yes. I love it all.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not going to give up my Febreze
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: for love. I'm sorry.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: I have my Pura thing that plugs in the wall
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: and I've got my volcano scent. So I always feel
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: like I'm in anthropology.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: When you walk into my house, it smells. If you
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: close your eyes, you're in a hotel lobby.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Ooh. Yeah.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: And like, not even, doesn't even have to be high end.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm talking like this could be a Ramada
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: and you know, it smells good. Like it's just going to,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: my house smells recently cleaned and chemical. Yes.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: And, and Thomas would have to stand in the yard. Right.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: So you're gone. Shay. Oh my God.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Well, it's too bad choices.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: I guess, I guess I can't even say this, but
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: I guess I would shag Shay. Yeah. just one and done.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: And then I would, you know, I'd marry Maxwell. Wow.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: I feel if.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: You marry Shay, you're gonna have to go to those
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: lake parties. I, I, I do.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, well now actually that might, you might've just convinced
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: me to make those lake parties look fun. He does
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: have a vacay, a lake house. Nevermind. Let me swap me.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Cause then I, And I wouldn't, that could be an
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: open marriage. You know what I mean? If he wanted
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: to have fun, he could totally do that, but I'll
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: be up at the lake house making snacks. I got,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: I got Triscuits and cheddar, you know.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: And you're getting on the pontoon boat. Yeah, of course
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: I am.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Hello. I came all the way up to the lake.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Oh my God. That is so damn funny. Okay. Um, okay.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Um, okay.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Tell me who's calling you. Cause last time we were
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: on RuPaul called you while we were talking, right?
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: No, this is my brother. My brother's calling me now.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Okay. Well, that's exciting too.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Okay. Are you, what other TLC shows are you watching?
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm a really pretty loyal to 90 day
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: and it's like a full-time job, as you know, so
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: many iterations. And now, you know, I watch it and
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I watch it differently now because like, I have to,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: you know, I can't just be like on an edible
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: on the couch. Like I have to be like paying
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: attention like deep deep attention so um what else are
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: you watching people tell me um uh little little singles
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: is good really good um the one about yeah so
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: i'm going to start that and then the one about
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: wives who are on only fans i want to watch
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: that really bad so i do i'm curious yeah.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Okay i'll tell you we're covering it because we cover
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: everything on tlc almost and um it's um it's upsetting upset.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Good upsetting? No.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Bad upsetting because all of their children are on the
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: show and like their parents are on the show but
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: none of them know why they're on the show because
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: they don't tell them. They just say we're filming a
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: show about housewives like it's a Bravo show. Like we're
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: filming a show about housewives outside of St. Louis. Great.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Let's go to a picnic with all your friends. Let's
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: have all our I know all the names of the
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: children and their ages and these people are literally doing
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: like double penetration on OnlyFans. So it's upsetting in that
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: way and that I don't think the children should have
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: been on the show.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: How about that? Understood. Understood. Well, that's an interesting turn
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: of events.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: But stylistically, it's interesting because at the beginning, they sort
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: of make it a little Desperate Housewives-ish in that they
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: have a voiceover and the women are all like serving
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: lemonade on trays and it's all very idyllic. Yeah. But
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: they didn't keep that theme. And there's a one girl
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: whose dad is a pastor and she has him on
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: there a lot talking to him about other things. He
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: does not know. This is what his daughter is doing,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: and he's a pastor. That's upsetting to me.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Do they reveal it to the family and everybody?
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: We've got two episodes left, and I do believe it
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: will have to be revealed because they keep saying, this
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: show that we're filming right now is going to come out.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: We're going to have to tell your mom. The show
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: is coming out. We're going to have to tell the kids. Wow.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: And that's worrisome. But, I mean, of course, I'm watching
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: every minute. Of course.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Of course. Yeah, okay. So, well, then I don't know
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: if that deterred me or encouraged me. I have to
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: wrestle with that.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I've told you the best show on TLC. I've told
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: you already.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, you told me about it. Yes, that's right. I'm
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: supposed to watch it. I talk to other people about that.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm going to watch. Welcome to Plathville.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm going to start season one. You said there's
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: six seasons, I think. So I'm going to start season one.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: There's eight. They're filming nine. You just, you will not,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: especially if you're watching it straight through. Cause I'm, I'm
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: doing a recap of it straight through from the beginning
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: now for like the third time. And it's so shocking
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: when you watch it all the way through and you
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: don't have those three, four month breaks to see how
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: it progresses so quickly, how it just goes so downhill. It's, fascinating. Great.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: I can't wait. You know, we are caught up because
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: I'm diligent, you know what I'm saying? So on, on
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: 90 day. And so I would love to watch. Welcome.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: I'm going to pitch that.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: Last night I said to my husband, what.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Did we watch?
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: And we watched some stupid things last night that were
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: on other channels, like that we just like quit halfway through.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: It was no good. So I would love to watch
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: this with him. So thank you for that.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: And you can have an edible on the couch and
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: judge the people.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: I think we, I think we covered it all.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, I think we did too. And I, I
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: just want to tell you, you know, I, I love
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: this stuff and I really am proud of this tell all.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: I was part of the last one too, but.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: I'm really proud of this.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Thank you. And I'm, I'm even like the first time
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know what I was going into. So
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: this one, I kind of understood a little bit to
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: go into. And I want to tell you, I think
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: part one is a 10 out of 10. And I
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: think part two is in a absolute firework show. Okay.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: Yes. I really, and I just, I can't stress that enough.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Which episode are you crying? Both episodes?
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: Two. And I will say, I just like, I think
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: you're going to love part one and you're not going
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: to know what to do with yourself. You're going to
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: run around like a puppy with zoomies for part two.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: I just got a visual of my dog running around.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: This is exciting.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: You're going to be on your couch scratching into your
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: throw pillows and like rolling on your back and asking
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: for belly rubs. That's how excited you're going to be
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: with part two.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: I'm dying at this visual thinking about my dog. So
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: my dog gets on the couch and sticks her butt
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: in the air because she wants you to slap her butt.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You're going to do that too. You're going to
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: do all of it. Okay. You're just going to be
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: so riveted and thrilled and it's, heart wrenching and emotional
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: and hilarious. And it's just, it's part one. We, we,
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: we go through a lot and it's great, but you're
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: going to like, um, just, you're going to fucking love
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: part two.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: I'm so excited.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: I'm so excited for everybody.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Well, listen, I'll be DMing you about, um, hunt for
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: love when it comes out. Cause we'll have a lot
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: to chat about. You better.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: I love hunt for love. I loved last season. I'm, like,
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: thrilled with the cast. Like, some unexpected choices, some... Steven. Yes.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Steven. I'm so excited. He's so cute.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: I'm just excited about... I just... I love this franchise.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: I love the way they do it. They know what
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: they're doing. And that's not me kissing ass. That's just
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: me being a fan. Like, I just love it. Same.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: So I'm 100% in. Okay.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: And The Other Way is coming. And that's, to me,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: I love The Other Way the most.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: I love The Other Way too, right? Taking... Americans out
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: of their comfort zone, right? I've like, I, I decided
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: that I don't need to travel anymore because, um, or
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: read books about geography or anything because my education of
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: the world is through 90 day the other way.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Do you find yourself, if somebody says something about, well, dah, dah, dah, dah, Morocco.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: And you're like, no, actually.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Little known fact about Morocco. And I know I'm in.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And they're like, yeah.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: And they're like, wow, have you traveled extensively through to Morocco?
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: And I, I answered in a way.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: I say the learning channel. I'm learning things. Of course.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: That's the whole point.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Listen, I think right now I could fill out a
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: K-1 visa application just in my sleep.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: Like that. I could represent us in immigration court. I
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: got you. Totally.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Ross, thank you very much.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Was that the crystal shop member, Gino's lawyer?
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: Remember that Gino couldn't work on the K-1 application because
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: the weather was too nice. So he couldn't.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: He had to do that. Well, hello, it's Michigan in
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: the summer.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: He had to be outside.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Tell everybody where they can find you, Ross, if they
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: Well, I just, you can find me here on your
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: podcast anytime there's a new tell-all because I.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Love talking to you.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Because you get it. You really do. You care like
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: I care. Otherwise, you can find me on my social
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: media at HelloRoss across every platform, you know, and I
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: have a lot of fun with my social media. And
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: I'm on the Drew Barrymore show every single day. We
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: have so much fun. I say thanks to Drew and
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: I get to produce that show and we come up
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: with the craziest ideas and the most, like, insightful chats
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: and talks. And I really, I'm so proud of that show.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: RuPaul's drag race. I'm a producer on that judge. I
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: love that. And, uh, 90 day, the last resort tell
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: all part one airs. This is Monday, the 21st, September
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: part two airs the 28th. And, um, this, this new
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: part of my career, like doing this makes me so happy.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: I love that, that I can, uh, there's been so
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: many times where I'm like, you know, just like you
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: want to gig. And so you sort of wedge yourself
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: into something and like those, I don't ever want to
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: do that anymore. I just want to do what I
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: really am drawn to. I really love what I really
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: care about. And I really love this and I really
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: care about it. And it's just kind of my favorite.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: It's really fun.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: We love it for you. Thank you. Okay. Thank you, Ross.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: So great to see you.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Bye.