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Vikings Free Agency - Who Stays, Who Goes and the Lying Game | TSH Ep. 128 · The Skol Hop

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  Speaker 1: All right, Hey Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode
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  Speaker 1: of the School Hoop.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Evan, I'm Austin.
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  Speaker 1: We're just a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like
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  Speaker 1: drinking beer and talking about the Viking.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we do. And Evan, have I ever lied to you?
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you have. I mean we've known each other
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  Speaker 1: for basically like twenty five years.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, I have a feeling I think tonight one
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  Speaker 2: of us is gonna lie to each other.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was kind of fun.
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  Speaker 2: We played it.
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  Speaker 1: We played a game. We're gonna talk about pretty much everything,
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  Speaker 1: Vikings free agency, at least players that are with the
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  Speaker 1: Vikings currently and our free agents, so that's kind of interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's always fun. And of course we tried another
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  Speaker 2: great Iowa beer tonight, the Forage Nut Brown Ale from
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  Speaker 2: Exile Brewing, which is delicious.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was awesome. So wherever you are, grab a
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  Speaker 1: cold one and join us for episode one eight of
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  Speaker 1: the School School School. All right, we are going to
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  Speaker 1: that's coming. It's going to resemble this thing behind us,
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  Speaker 1: but it'll be in three dimensions and it'll be made
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  Speaker 1: out of wood, and we're excited about it. If you're
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  Speaker 1: They're pretty cool. I actually watched one of his videos
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  Speaker 1: the other day of how he assembled the the Viking
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  Speaker 1: head logo, this logo right here, the Norseman logo, and
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  Speaker 1: it was just really cool how he kind of he
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  Speaker 1: custom cuts each piece and then he hand lays them
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  Speaker 1: in on the design and glues them all together and
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  Speaker 1: the end product is cool. We've got this little school
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  Speaker 1: piece here. It's got the Minnesota outline in the oh,
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  Speaker 1: probably one of his more popular pieces. It's pretty small,
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  Speaker 1: by six inch, yeah, something like that twelve inch by
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  Speaker 1: six inch little frame all the way up to like
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  Speaker 1: bigger custom pieces like we've got. But no matter what
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, that's bad. That's whatever.
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  Speaker 1: We need to drink some beer.
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  Speaker 2: We do need to drink some beer.
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  Speaker 1: Tell us about the beer that you brought tonight.
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  Speaker 2: So this one is one that I don't think we've
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  Speaker 2: had before. It is from Exile Brewing Company. It is
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  Speaker 2: their forage nut brown ale. So Evan, I'm getting a
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  Speaker 2: little self aware. I realize most of the time when
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  Speaker 2: I bring the beer it's like a double dry hopped
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  Speaker 2: ipa or like a citrus ipa. And I think I've
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  Speaker 2: had moments, you know, time periods in this podcast where
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  Speaker 2: I'm a little bit more friendly to your favorite types
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  Speaker 2: of beer. But then I also always just fall back
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  Speaker 2: into the same rud of getting the hazy IPAs that
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  Speaker 2: I like. So knowing that I saw this nut brown
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  Speaker 2: ale and I was like, that's in Evans category. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you like the IPAs, but like, yeah, I like anything.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you also like these brown ales and the
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  Speaker 2: ambers and the full flavored, like the darker beers too,
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  Speaker 2: probably a little bit more. So That's that's what I
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  Speaker 2: was going for. I didn't know until we opened them
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  Speaker 2: up here, uh, they were. They're four point seven percenters,
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  Speaker 2: so not bad at all. Yeah, you can definitely throw
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  Speaker 2: a few of these back and not feel too bad
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  Speaker 2: the next day. And I'm just excited to give these
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  Speaker 2: a try.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're this is week two of drinking out
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  Speaker 1: of these top cups. These are recycled aluminum dishwasher safe
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  Speaker 1: top cups. Not a sponsor, but could be maybe. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but they graciously gave us some of their cups.
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  Speaker 2: So how did did you obviously cleaned the cups that
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  Speaker 2: we used last week? Did you throw them in the dishwasher?
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  Speaker 2: Did you wash my hand? How did they hold up? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: They held up just fine. They looked exactly like these
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  Speaker 1: ones that we have in our hands right now. We
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  Speaker 1: are using new ones right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they sent us like twenty of them, but.
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  Speaker 1: I've got they're around somewhere. They're clean, So we did fine.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing bad happened.
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  Speaker 2: That's good. I think they say like on the website,
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  Speaker 2: it says you can use them up to like ten times, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: which means you could probably actually use them up twenty
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  Speaker 2: times or something like that. But yeah, these are still
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  Speaker 2: pretty sweet. I like having these cool cups.
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited to try the beer school school.
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  Speaker 2: The clink just doesn't feel the same though, and it
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  Speaker 2: done the aluminum cup, but that's okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that a lot earthy nutty. Yeah, like
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  Speaker 1: it says smooth though. Oh yeah, it's got a good
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  Speaker 1: foamy head to it.
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  Speaker 2: That's high quality. That's nice. Well, do you if you remember,
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  Speaker 2: wasn't our second skull hot beer that were brood with
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  Speaker 2: front of the show for us? Wasn't that a nut
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  Speaker 2: brown aile? You know? Forrest? I love you, man, but
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  Speaker 2: I'll give the credit where credits due. I think this
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  Speaker 2: one's probably a little bit better than the batch that
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  Speaker 2: we brewed, although ours wasn't bad. But yeah, this is nice.
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  Speaker 1: This is this is a good beer. I like this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you like kind of the darker there, you
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  Speaker 2: can definitely tell the nut flavor there's it's almost like
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  Speaker 2: a toasted flavor in there. It's really nice.
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  Speaker 1: In multi two, which is something that I like. I
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  Speaker 1: like the malt flavor.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we got a few more of these, we'll go
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  Speaker 2: through them here, but we got some more things to
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  Speaker 2: talk about today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to play a game first, so we'll
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  Speaker 1: set it up like we'll talk about it then we'll
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  Speaker 1: physically set it up, because there is.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit of setup.
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  Speaker 1: A little bit of setup that we'll have to do here,
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  Speaker 1: and then we'll play and it'll be fun. So we
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  Speaker 1: were we were scrolling and we came across an idea.
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  Speaker 1: We've seen a few different iterations of this game where
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  Speaker 1: each player brings an object, and the players will have
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  Speaker 1: the object in front of them, and the players either
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  Speaker 1: have to tell the truth or the lie about what
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  Speaker 1: they have, and then the other player has to determine
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  Speaker 1: if they're telling the truth or lying.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll ask each other questions and have you actually
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  Speaker 2: do things like, oh, tap it on the table or oh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, if it's a pen, like click the pen
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  Speaker 2: a few times, stuff like that. So I think you've
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  Speaker 2: set it up. The rules are kind of varying. I
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  Speaker 2: think the game is called the Lying Game, and every
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  Speaker 2: person that plays it has different rules. But you've kind
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  Speaker 2: of set up we're actually gonna draw some pieces of
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  Speaker 2: paper to determine if we're going to tell the truth
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  Speaker 2: or lie about it.
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  Speaker 1: So in our school mug, I've got some papers here.
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  Speaker 1: In this way, we don't have to decide whether or
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  Speaker 1: not we're going to tell the truth or tell a lie.
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  Speaker 1: It'll just be on these pieces of paper and we'll
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  Speaker 1: draw from the mug. We'll mix them up really good,
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  Speaker 1: and then if you get one that says truth, you
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  Speaker 1: have to tell the truth. So if you have a pen,
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  Speaker 1: you've got to say I have a pen. But if
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  Speaker 1: you get a lie and you have a pen, you
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  Speaker 1: can say, I have a.
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  Speaker 2: Bar of soap or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: And then we will ask each other questions and determine
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  Speaker 1: if the other one is telling the truth or not.
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  Speaker 2: I like it. I'm excited. We won't do it this time,
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  Speaker 2: but if we like this, maybe we can play this
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  Speaker 2: in the future. And then if, like I guess that
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  Speaker 2: you're lying but you're actually telling the truth, maybe you
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  Speaker 2: have to do like a little purple punishment or purple punishment,
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  Speaker 2: take a shot I'm a lord or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of that, I ran into Blue today. Oh really,
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  Speaker 1: he said he he has been brainstorming some purple punishments
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  Speaker 1: right laying on us. So shout out to Blue.
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  Speaker 2: That's awesome. Yeah, that's hilarious. All right, Well are we ready?
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  Speaker 2: Let's go ahead, and.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break here and we'll be right back. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we're set up. I can't see you over there.
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  Speaker 2: Who are you? I don't even know are you over there?
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  Speaker 1: Of exactly? But we have our items and we are
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  Speaker 1: ready to go. All right, I'm gonna put this coffee
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  Speaker 1: right on the divider. I need you to pick one
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  Speaker 1: slip of paper please.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna there we go.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, uh, and I will select one as well. All right,
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  Speaker 1: show it to the camera. You don't have to show
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  Speaker 1: it to me.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, Okay, let's see I've shown it to the camera.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. You know what you're doing.
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  Speaker 2: I know what I'm doing. Okay, all right, So how
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  Speaker 2: do we want to do this? Do we just announce
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  Speaker 2: what it is and then just start asking each other questions.
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  Speaker 1: I'll start Okay, I have a stapler?
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, is it a red stapler?
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  Speaker 3: Like?
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  Speaker 2: What movie is that? Office space? Okay? I have I
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  Speaker 2: have a vikings helmet?
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  Speaker 1: M okay? Interesting? All right, why don't you start by
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  Speaker 1: asking me a question?
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  Speaker 3: All right?
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  Speaker 2: If you have a stapler, go ahead, and don't like,
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  Speaker 2: like fully punch a stapler through, but like give it
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  Speaker 2: a few squeezes a couple mmmm. All right, try going
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  Speaker 2: a little faster like Okay, all right, all right, interesting, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, if you have a Viking helmet, just tap that
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  Speaker 1: thing on the on the desk for me.
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  Speaker 2: Tap like physically tap it on the desk. Yeah hmm, okay,
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  Speaker 2: your turn, man, all right, kind of like slide it
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  Speaker 2: around the desk like it's a mouse, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Yep, yep, hang on, I got it. Move my beer
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  Speaker 1: out of the way, oh man, alright, okay, here you go.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah hmm. Interesting all right, okay, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Can you can you take the helmet in your hand
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  Speaker 1: and knock your knuckles up against it like, uh, just
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  Speaker 1: like tap on.
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  Speaker 2: It with your knuckles like I'm knocking on a door.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, interesting, all right, all.
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  Speaker 2: Right, go for itv go ahead and punch a few
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  Speaker 2: staples out, just like like let it, let it go.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, here we go.
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  Speaker 2: Some dry fires. Oh man, gee, okay, it's good grief.
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  Speaker 2: That sounds very stapler, like like I'm trying to think
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  Speaker 2: of what else that sound could be.
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  Speaker 1: All right, okay, can you I'm trying to think of
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  Speaker 1: anything else you could do with it.
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  Speaker 2: We'll think about like what would be on the helmet
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  Speaker 2: and like what I could do with it. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know is that that wasn't very helpful.
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  Speaker 1: Is it a full sized football helmet?
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  Speaker 2: It is? It is a full sized football helmet.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, can you I mean, I'm gonna lean forward so
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  Speaker 1: I can't see you, But can you put it on
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  Speaker 1: your head?
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  Speaker 2: I can't physically put this one on my head. It
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  Speaker 2: is a full size home but it's a youth sized helmet.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, I could.
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  Speaker 2: I could try, but I have tried before and it
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  Speaker 2: does not go on my head. It goes on my
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  Speaker 2: kids' heads.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's not try. Let's not try like an er
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  Speaker 1: visit here. Can you grab it by the face mask
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  Speaker 1: and shake it a little bit? Just shake it? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's not helpful at all.
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  Speaker 2: But I when you watch back, you'll see that I
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  Speaker 2: gave it a good shake.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm thinking each of us get one more question.
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  Speaker 1: We have to determine if it's a truth or a lie.
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  Speaker 2: All right? What brand of stapler does it say on
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  Speaker 2: the side there or anywhere on it? Does it say
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  Speaker 2: the brand? What brand does it? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: It's a Stanley Bostitch.
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  Speaker 2: Ah. Okay, all right, I think the Vikings head They
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  Speaker 2: signed him as a tight end this this year.
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  Speaker 1: What about that's actually a good question for the helmet.
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  Speaker 1: What brand of helmet is that?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? This is you know, tried and true. This is
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  Speaker 2: a riddle evolution like the ones we were in high school.
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  Speaker 1: But is it like a Riddell?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, riddle riddell whatever, riddell however you say? That's right?
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  Speaker 1: Are you ready to make a determination about whether I'm
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  Speaker 1: telling the truth or lie?
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  Speaker 2: Evan? I think you're telling the truth. I think you
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  Speaker 2: have a stapler over there.
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  Speaker 1: I am. I am telling the tweet.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think? What do you think about me?
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking you're telling the truth as well?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well I am nice.
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  Speaker 1: That's a sweet helmet.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the one that I painted myself.
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  Speaker 1: Nicely done. All right, we're ready for a round two.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to do another round. Let's go.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't happen to see my other item when you lean.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't. And my other item is still in the
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  Speaker 2: bag at my feet, so I need to need to
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  Speaker 2: grab that and get this thing.
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  Speaker 1: I'll let you get that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not looking over your way.
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  Speaker 1: Don't knock the divider over. The divider is very tipsy
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  Speaker 1: for the listener out there. We don't want it to
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  Speaker 1: fall over on us.
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  Speaker 2: That would be bad.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good memory from our youth days.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I am ready. Are we gonna read draw?
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  Speaker 1: Yep? Oh, I will mix up the Do.
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  Speaker 2: You want my my tag back?
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  Speaker 1: Nope, I've got plenty of them in here, so we'll
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  Speaker 1: just pull some new ones out, all right, go ahead
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  Speaker 1: and pick all right, determine whether you are telling the
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  Speaker 1: truth or a lie. Show it to the camera.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. All right, I have my instructions.
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  Speaker 1: Here, and here's mine. Okay, I'll let you go first.
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  Speaker 2: All right, tell me what you got, evan I have.
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  Speaker 2: I've got Victor the Viking here, Victor of the Viking okay,
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  Speaker 2: and I have.
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  Speaker 1: A bag of cereal.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right, like okay, all right, so I've
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  Speaker 2: got a question right now. Okay, so I'll just start
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  Speaker 2: it off. Is it like like ready to eat? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: go ahead and go ahead and eat a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Take a bite there, all right. Let me let me
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  Speaker 1: just pull some out here. Okay, there you go.
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  Speaker 2: Was that it.
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  Speaker 1: Was a bite? Al right? It was an interesting bite.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was good. Alright, Okay, get some minerals, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: All right, some nutrients. Okay, you said you have Victor
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  Speaker 1: of the Viking?
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  Speaker 2: I do.
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  Speaker 1: Hmmm? Is he is he plush? Is he like a
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  Speaker 1: soft victor of the Viking?
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  Speaker 2: No, no, he's a it's a victor of the Viking.
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  Speaker 2: Funk o pop? Oh okay, yes, m hmm. So those
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  Speaker 2: are like plastic? Right, yeah, it's your turn. Okay, all right, Evan?
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  Speaker 2: What kind of cereal is it?
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  Speaker 1: Captain crunch, cap'n?
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  Speaker 2: Okay? All right, all right, how's how's your mouth doing
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  Speaker 2: right now? After that bite? Does it hurt? Pretty good? Interesting? Okay,
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  Speaker 2: all right, we're good.
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  Speaker 1: Beer's good too, Beer is good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna.
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  Speaker 1: Grab another one. Actually I'm not looking at yours another beer?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, just reaching behind me. All right, Well
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  Speaker 1: it's your turn. Okay. Can you tap Victor if he's
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  Speaker 1: plastic on the desk please? Okay? All right, that's fair Evan.
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  Speaker 2: I'm kind of forgetting what colors are the are the
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  Speaker 2: like fruity like pieces of the berries? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well this is just straight up capt'n Crunch. So
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  Speaker 1: it's just the yellow ones, no berries, okay.
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  Speaker 2: All right? And what shapes here? Those again?
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  Speaker 1: They're like squares, little squares? Can you don't throw them
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  Speaker 1: super high? But can you throw them up and catch
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  Speaker 1: him in front of you without too much to do? Okay?
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  Speaker 2: All right? Interesting, all right, Evan, can you like like
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  Speaker 2: just manipulate the bag of cereal in your hand? Okay,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: all right, that's that sounds good.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: What do you think too? A question? Sure, we'll go
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  Speaker 1: for it, all right. My second to last question for
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  Speaker 1: you is mmmmmmmmmm does Victor open at all?
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  Speaker 2: Like?
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Is like?
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, no, he's just like a stationary figure.
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  Speaker 1: It's completely enclosed. Okay, all right, that was that's my question.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Can you take the bag and from
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know, a couple of inches above the desk,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: just like drop it on the desk a couple of times?
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Is that good?
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: That's great?
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Of Okay, I can tell you're loving this.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, this is this is great? All right?
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: All right? Can you mm hmm can you like scratch
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: the little Victor on the table for me?
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Like rub him on the table?
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, all right, it's fair.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Evan. How much do you think do you think that
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: bag of cereal cost? Hmmm?
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Just a thinking at least five dollars?
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, is that it? Or do we have anymore?
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: No? I'm I'm thinking you're telling the truth again.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: I am, I am telling the truth.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: You're not a great liar.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I didn't have to lie, but I had to tell
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: the truth.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Did you figure out what mine is?
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: I'm lying.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I know you're lying. That's my official guess. I don't
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: think I have to like as a part of the game.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: It's a bag of change, right. Yes, that was fun.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not very creative either.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: What did you do when I said eat it?
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I took a nickel out and put it in my mouth. Yep,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: that's awesome. It was very metallic and not very tasty
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: at all.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Well, that was fun. If we should we should do
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: that again. And yeah, I think maybe if we do
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: it again, incorporate some purple punishments.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was good. I liked the victor. Yeah, I thought,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: let me see him. I thought he was more like
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: like completely round, like I almost like a like one
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: of those Russian doll things. That's why I asked you
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: to like open him up. Oh yeah, okay, but this
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: is cool though.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: I like I like that a lot. It sits with
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I've got a few funkos that are well just funkos.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: In general, and then obviously a handful of.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Vikings related from stand up there he should Yeah, yeah, school, but.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: I've got like Adrian Peterson and Dalvin Cook and Justin
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Jefferson as like players fault party, vowel Victor, Victor fell, a.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Few too many beers for Victor tonight?
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, TV back on, Well, I think we uh,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: we tied pretty much if we were going to compete
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: in that game, I think so. Yeah, that was fun
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: though we could play it again sometime, although I think
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: maybe I should have played it off like like it
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: wasn't like I had to tell the truth. I had
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: to tell you to tell the truth, but maybe I could.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: But maybe like been a little bit more misleading by
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: telling the truth.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah no, I just went straight for it. Not a
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: good bluffer.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I'm not a good bluffer either. On air production.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Meeting, All right, what are we thinking?
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I was thinking the other day before we get into
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: talking about free agents, and you can pooh pooh this
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: idea if you want. I don't know why I would,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: but you remember back in college when we would play
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: video games a lot.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, where are you going with this? Up?
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: We should play video games on the podcast sometime and
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: you've got video games at your house.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, or you could like a live stream or something.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Or just like we could go for our podcast some
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: night and we could talk about Viking stuff. But we
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: could also play Madden in your basement, all right. I
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: think we should do that.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: I do also remember of sometimes those Madden games didn't
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: go so.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: I think that would add entertainment value because to be
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: fair or in full transparency, I haven't played Madden on
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: that type of console since we were in college.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Oh man, and it has been like twenty two hours
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: since the last time I.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Played into and it's probably been twenty two years.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Not that long.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been pretty long.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, yeah, I like it. Well, we'll figure
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: that out. Maybe we can figure out the best way
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: to do that.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I think we should. That'd be fun, be fun.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Almost like a on location type.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: And you'd absolutely obliterate me. I can guarantee it. But
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: maybe we could have some fun with it, like Okay,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I'll play as the Browns, you will play as the Browns,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: and I'll get to play as the best all you know,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: all ninety nine's.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we could do that. Although funny you mentioned that
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: because a little over a year or so ago, now
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: front of the show, Forest and I we had a
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: night where we just we popped in n CAA football.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: And I'm not lying or exaggerating at all when I
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: say we played two games. Of the two games, I
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: think I scored maybe like sixteen points and in the
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: two games he scored like one hundred and eighty points.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: So he obliterated me.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: And those games that will probably be reversed. I will
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: be you and you will be Forest.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that would be That would be great. And
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: much like I said in your face to Canada when
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: the US won the gold medal hockey game the other day,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: I would definitely say in your face to you, yeah,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: that's a good idea. If we should, we should do that.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, back to the Vikings, because we are
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: a Vikings podcast, we talk about Vikings things. We haven't
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: really talked about the Vikings yet, but we're going to
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: start now and we're gonna keep drinking some great beer.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: And you brought in a pretty good article from friend
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: of the show Dustin Baker Yep on nineteen free agents
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: that he ranks kind of from worst to best in
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: terms of like who's the first out the door in
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Dustin's opinion all the way down to who's a guy
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: that the Vikings absolutely need to fight to keep? And
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I like this list. I think the commentary is pretty
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: spot on. Let's talk about it.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, yeah, it's on Vikings Territory dot com. We'll
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: link the article in the show notes here from the
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: twenty second of February he posted so yesterday for us,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: but probably longer for you guys listening. The article is
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: called Vikings have nineteen free Agents, Here's who matters most.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I thought it was a good tool and
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: after reading it to quick read, I definitely recommend listeners
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: go check it out. But after reading it, I think
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: I agree with Dustin's like priority ranking of who the
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Vikings should sign first and who you know, who should
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: be the least priority. So I guess with nineteen we
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: could just read off the names and kind of talk about.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Let's just go in there condescending order for lack of
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: a better term.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so from least important to most important for the
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Vikings to sign, as far as what Dustin thinking, and
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I'll agree with it too. Left tackle Matt Nelson, then
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: quarterback Brat Rippon, quarterback John Walford, cornerback Tavier Thomas, quarterback
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Carson Wentz, tight end Ben Simms, and then defensive tackle
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Taki Tai Minnie. It's at this point of the article
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: where he kind of starts turning to like, all right,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: this is where maybe the Viking should sign these guys.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: That's kind of where it's taking the turn here. So
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: then running back Xavier Scott, cornerback Jeff Okudah, and importantly
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: he mentions because Jeff Akuda didn't play great and then
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: he missed most of the year. I think he had
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: like two concussions. But importantly Dustin said like, yeah, he'd
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: be interesting as like a cornerback four. So it wasn't
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: like Dustin was saying, yeah, let's get him as you know,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: the Byron Murphy replacement, because that's just not the truth.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: But I mean, I guess Sokuda is still has a
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: little bit of equity and worth at least, you know,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: trying to make the team.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Then running back Ty Chandler, cornerback Fabian Moreau, and then
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: punter Ryan Wright, ed rusher Bo Richter, left tackle Justin's
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: school school school linebacker Ivan Pace Junior. This one kind
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: of confuses me because I think he's still under contract.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: It's just whether or not he's gonna sign, or come
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: back or retire. But safety Harrison Smith Harryt the hitman,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: and then he rounds it out with the three most
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: important to sign from three to one, wide receiver Jalen Naylor,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: linebacker Eric Wilson, and then his most important to resign.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Who is definitely my most important to resign defensive tackle
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Jalen Redmond so evan. After reading that or listening to that,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: just who are some names that stand out to you
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: that are yes, the Vikings should resign these guys. I'd
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: be upset if they didn't at least make an effort
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: to resign these guys.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna start at the opposite end. I actually start
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: with the last slash first name on the list. I
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: don't even know who Matt Nelson.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Is, which is interesting because he's a former Hawkey.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Is he really Yeah?
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: I guess I didn't even know that he got a
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: season engine injury. I'm pretty sure in like early training camp.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, which would explain why I just I'm unfamiliar with him. No,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: no disregard, no shade throwing that guy's way. I just
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: didn't even know he was a name on the roster.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: So I mean, if that's the case, you know, okay,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: we can move on from him. Best of luck elsewhere.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Hope you get healthy again. No, no shade, no no
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: ill feeling.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Another thing that's interesting to me, excuse me, is three
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks in this really in this like lower tier of
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: the list, with Rip and Wolford and Carson Wentz, and
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: I think that just underlies the whole quarterback situation, you know,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: like we've we've been going round and round and round
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: and round about the Vikings quarterbacks. That's really interesting to me.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: The other names, I'm like, yeah, there, I know their names.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: They played, but probably aren't going to play for the Vikings.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: But then I like kind of this like four tier approach,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: because then it's like, okay, the next tier up, It's like, well, okay,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: maybe right, It's like there could be some redeeming factors
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: for some of these guys. Ty Chandler isn't terrible, but
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: it depends on like what happens with the running back position,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: and it depends on Aaron Jones, it depends on Jordan Mason, right,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of factors involved there, and Chandler
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: could be serviceable as an RB two, RB three elsewhere probably.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Which is crazy because there was a not too distant
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: time and our fan hood passed where we were thinking
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: ty Chandler he could be RB one, Yeah, and then
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: they signed Aaron Jones, and ty Chandler when he did
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: get the opportunities.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: He just never he just kind of flopped.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he had like one good game ish and then
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: you know, every once in a while he'd come in
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: and look okay, and even in twenty twenty five, in
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: this most recent season, he missed a lot of the
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: season for injury, and then towards the end he came
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: off the IR and he would get into a game
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: for a few carries and look not terrible, but also
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: not start games, you know, not great.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Then you get to the the we'll say not quite
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: upper tier, but they like the mid tier, the upper
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: mid tier. I'd take all those guys back if we could.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I think all of those guys played well. Bo Rick
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: is probably the one that I'm like, yeah, we've got
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: enough edge guys, especially if if Dallas Turner is playing well,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: and if you get Van Ginkle and Grenard back and
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: they're healthy, and you've got Dallas Turner coming in. I
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: don't know that that room seems to be pretty crowded
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: at that point.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: As I think, I agree with you as far as
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: like starters go. But if you're looking at I mean,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: successful teams are successful because they have depth. You know,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: every team needs a superstar, the Super Bowl winner, team
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: winning teams, they need their superstars. They need, you know,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: the quarterback that plays all year and looks great and
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: throws to the wide receiver that plays all year and
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: looks great and stuff like that. But you also need
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: to fill in gaps. So you can't just win a
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl if you know the best team, I mean,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: we see it with Justin Jefferson, he might be the
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: best player in the league. And you know it's not
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: necessarily the only piece that is going to push the
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Vikings to a super Bowl. So you need depth, and
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: I think that's what bo Richter is at this point
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: in his career. Depth and probably not a bad guy
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: to bring back if you get the chance.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: But of all those guys eight through five on Dustin's list, here,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Ryan right, bou Richter justin school, I haven't paid junior
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: and Harrison Smith. Yeah, he seems to me to be
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: the most expendable, and that might be controversial, and Dustin
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: might even disagree, And that's why he would say Ryan
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Right is eight and Bo Richter is seven. But I
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: think Ryan Right is worth the price of admission if
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: it's not super costly. Obviously you don't want to pay
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: out the nose for a punter, yeah, but I would
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: pay some insurance for a good punter who doesn't mess up,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: who puts the ball where you want it most of
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: the time. You know, he had a down year there,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: what was it two years ago? And then yeah, or
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: was it last season?
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Well, Dustin he not only listed each player, but he
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: gave like a sentence or two blurb about why he
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: put them where he put them. And for Right, he
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: said Ryan Wright was a machine as a rookie, and
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I think that was a good thing. And then he
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: returned to Earth in twenty three and twenty four, and
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: then resurged in twenty five. Dustin goes as far to
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: say like, he'll likely be the punter in twenty six,
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: and then he mentions kicker will Rekord trusts him as
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: a holder, which is not small at all.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: And so that's where like I would maybe start to
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: disagree a little bit with the list. Move Ryan Right
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: a little higher on the list, like.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: More important, more important.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: And move down Bo Richter, maybe even moved down Harrison Smith,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: not solely because he's likely on his way out anyways,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: but also he's getting up there and we saw production
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: go down. Granted, I think it took him a really
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: long time to get going in the T five season
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: because he was dealing with whatever illness or injury or
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: whatever it was that was just totally a mystery to
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: everybody outside of probably a select few people. I'm guessing
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: teammates didn't even know what was going on with him
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: to some extent. But anyways, I would almost flip Ryan
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Right and Harrison Smith in that order and put Ryan
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Right in four and Harrison Smith at eight just because
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: and aging Harrison Smith isn't a top priority. But a
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: solid special teamer who plays multiple roles, doesn't just punt
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: the ball but holds the ball for your kicker and
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: your kicker trusts him. That's worth quite a bit. And
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: special teams you have to win in all three phases. Yeah, right,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Like you could be great offensively and defensively, and then
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: you know, crap the bed in special teams and lose
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: games that way. That's how you lose those close games.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: You muff a punt or now the punter is not
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: muffing the punts, but you get a punt blocked, You
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: get these airball punts that only go twenty yards or
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: go out of bounds at really inconvenient times. You know,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: he's he's consistent, and Dustin says he returned to Earth,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: but he was still serviceable. He was still a good punter.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: And I don't know, I like Ryan right, and I
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: like the consistency we have with him in that position.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, and like I said, being the holder
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: for will Rekerd like the kicking game, punting or you know,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: field goal kicking can be so fickle at times, and
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: we've seen throughout our fandom of Viking's history, like the
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: field goal kicking has been something that you know, it's
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: the most Viking thing. Ever, when when Blair Walsh misses
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: the twenty seven yard kick wide left or wide right,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: whatever it was, and any consistently consistently see you can
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: have in that equation, you know, the holder if if
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: it's not broke, you know, don't try to fix it.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: So I also think signing Ryan Wright, like you said
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: a little bit ago, isn't like it's gonna break free
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: agency for the Vikings. They're not gonna not be able
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: to pay you know, Christian Darisaw because they chose Ryan Wright.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: You know, it's it's gonna be a relatively cheap deal.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Which that's that's fine, even if it's an expensive punter deal,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: that's still a relatively cheap deal.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Let me finish my perspective on the list and then
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I'll toss it back to you. So he finishes with
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Jalen Naylor, Eric Wilson, and Jalen Redman. I think those
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: are the three obvious choices for kind of that top
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: tier list. It is interesting. Dustin writes that some reports
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: say Naylor's next contract will get five million, and some
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: reports say twelve million. The Vikings can pay him five,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: but they can't pay him twelve. It's pretty simple, is
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: what Dustin says. And I have to agree with him.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, the Vikings are forty three million in like
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: forty six even. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's the the
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: cap situation is not looking good for the Vikings. I
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: think if Naylor wants to stay, he'll take a team
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: friendly deal and stay and continue to play that probably
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: that number three role, as long as Jordan Addison doesn't
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: do stupid stuff off the field. Otherwise, if he wants ten, twelve, fourteen,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: maybe he'll go somewhere else. Yeah, and I think he's
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: a He's a serviceable number two guy in a lot
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: of other places.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: So yeah, as far as Naylor is concerned. For me,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: I've been up and down on him his whole Vikings career.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: I think he's He's had flashes and he's had you know,
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: games where it's like, ah, how did you drop that
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: obvious touchdown right there? I think he I'm pretty sure
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: he's only ever had one one hundred yard game as
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: a Viking, which not like those are the easiest things
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: in the world to get. I mean, shoot, justin Jefferson
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: only had a few this year. But for him, like
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: if the Vikings ended up signing him, cool, Like that's
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: that's fine. I wouldn't be happy even if they had
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: all the money in the world. I wouldn't be happy
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: if they gave him twelve million. But it's not my money.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: If it's five Okay, whatever, but I really do think
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: another team is gonna, you know, give him a twelve
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: or fourteen million dollar type deal just because we've we've
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: seen that in the last few years, there's been you know,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: a up and coming wide receiver that'll out of nowhere
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: just get ten to eleven twelve million dollars a year,
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: and it's like, oh, okay, I guess free agency is
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: going to be expensive this year. But yeah, I could
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: take it or leave it with Jalen Naylor. My my
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: off season as a vikingspan isn't going to be made
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: on his, you know, roster decision for the Vikings.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Other than that, Eric Wilson, Jalen Redmond. I like both
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: of them. I like what Justin or Dustin not Justin.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: I was reading Justin and meant to say Dustin. I
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: like what Dustin said about Jalen Redman, like he might
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: have been the Vikings best player outside of Justin Jefferson
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: in the season, and he's got one of the greatest
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: like rags to rich, his stories to boot, like from
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: the UFL to the NFL and just the climb that
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: he's made it's pretty awesome, pretty special. He seems like
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: a really solid guy. Yeah, I think you do whatever
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: you can to keep that guy back. And Eric Wilson,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: he's older. I like what Dustin says here too, draft
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: a young guy. Let Brian Flores find the best option
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: that way in the draft, trust his gut on that
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: and that let the young guy develop under Eric Wilson's tutelage,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: let him ride off into the sunset when his career
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: is over, and let's see what happens from there.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I would be really excited to get
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Eric Wilson back. He was a former Viking and then
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: a former packer and now at the moment a current Viking.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: He may be one that another team would be like, oh, hey,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: we'll give him some We've got some extra dollars. Let's
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: let's get him. He's obviously proven at that position now,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: and he's he's had a year with Brian Flores and
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: he's showing that he's actually good with good coaching. So
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: let's get him. So maybe another team will offer him
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: more than the Vikings will be able to, or we'll
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: be comfortable offering him. And if that happens, good for him.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: You know, get get get all the money. But I mean,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: he obviously likes it in Minnesota. You know, he chose
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: to come back once and then he really took off.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if that is a Brian Flores
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: connection where he's always been fine. You know, he's always
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: been a borderline starter, maybe you know, special teams guy,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: and then he'll spot start some games. Maybe he's had
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: a couple of seasons where he started more games than not.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: But this year was definitely by far his best year
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: on the field. And I mean Dustin mentions he'll turn
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: thirty two in September and that he's not a long
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: term fix, so yeah, you're not signing him to an
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: eight year deal. But also, like I mean, thirty two
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: is not ancient, Like if he played really well at
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: thirty one, I mean, unless he gets injured, thirty two
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: is not that much older. So yeah, I'd be all
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: for it. Jalen Redmond. That's where we're starting to get
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: into the conversation of types of free agents, which we
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: can kind of hit here a little bit. But Jalen Redmond,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: he may be the most important, you know, upcoming free
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: agent for the team to sign, but he's also probably
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: the easiest one for the team to sign. Out so,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: and that's because he is an exclusives free agent. So
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: for people like me four hours ago that didn't know
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: the exact difference between the types of free agents. There's
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: unrestricted free agents, which are most of the guys the
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Vikings have as upcoming free agents. Those are guys that
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: it says the definition of that is any player with
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: four or more accrued seasons and an expired contract. If
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: they're you know, if the new year starts and they
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: don't have a contract, they're free to negotiate with any team.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: That's Eric Wilson, Jeff Acuda, Ryan Wright, Carson Wentz, Andrew
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Depaula is even an unrestricted free agent. So most of
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: the guys on that list are unrestricted free agents, you're
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: gonna have to compete a little bit more with other teams.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Then there's another tier, which is restricted free agency and
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: or restricted free agents, and that's probably the most It
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: probably has the most to do. Not confusing, because I
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: don't think it's super confusing once you read it, but
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: it's definitely the most involved process.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: And it's it's definitely a part of the collective bargaining
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: agreement with the NFLPA. Like if you're in the league
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: long enough, you basically get to you're unrestricted. When you're
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: a free agent, you're contract's up. You get to decide
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: to go wherever you want to go.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: But restricted free agents those are players with three accrued
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: seasons and an expired contract, so they're free to negotiate
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: with any team once free agency starts, but their original team,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: whoever they were just with most recently, they can offer
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: them like a qualifying tender. So we see, like, oh,
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: you know, I think Lamar Jackson was one a few
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: years ago. He was he was tendered with like two
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: first round picks, so any team during that time could
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: negotiate with him to include the raven and that example.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: But if you know, if another team chose to sign
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson during that time, the Ravens would have the
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: opportunity to be like, you know what, we'll do that
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: deal and that's it. They would just sign the contract
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: and nobody else could say anything about it. Or they
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: could be like, you know what, you can have him
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: other team, but you have to send us two first
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: round picks. So there's tenders, you know, all the way
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: up from multiple first round picks down to like like
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: nothing like seventh round picks, you know. So that's a
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: way that a team can kind of let a player
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: see his value, let another team kind of negotiate for them,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: and then they wouldn't be totally out if they lost
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: a player to another team that would sign them to
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: a bigger contract than they want, because they'd still get
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: some kind of compensation. So the Vikings only have two
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: restricted free agents. That's tight end Ben Simms and then
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: linebacker Ivan Pace Junior, and then one more type and
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: then I'll pass it over to UF. But there's also
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: exclusive rights free agents, so that's Jalen Redmond, Bo Richter,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: and Xavier Scott. So those are any player with fewer
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: than three accrued seasons and an expired contract, they can
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: talked to any other team. But basically that's only if
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: their original team doesn't offer them the minimum. So if
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: the Vikings want Jalen Redmond, I looked it up today,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: they can have him for like it's either just under
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: or just over one million dollars whatever the league minimum
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: is for him. If they offer it to him, he
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: instantly he has to sign it. That's his exclusive rights
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: free agency or playing football yeah or like yeah, but
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: the pretty much so the Vikings they could have him
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: for twenty twenty and it's a one year contract. They
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: could negotiate and you know, sign him to a giant
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: deal and then you know, but at minimum. If they
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: hold all the power the Vikings do, they can just
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: say like, yep, we've got you. It's almost like a
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: franchise tag but not quite and a lot less money.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: But yeah, if the Vikings for Jalen Redmond, decided they
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: didn't want him, then he'd be totally unrestricted and could
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: sign anywhere for however much money he wanted. But yeah,
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: that's why I say it's nice that Jalen Redmond, even
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: though he's the highest priority for the Vikings to sign
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: of their free agents, he's probably the easiest to sign
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: because all they'd have to do is say, oh, it's
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: only the minimum, Yep, we will do that. Here you go.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that definitely makes sense. And he's obviously still young
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: enough and doesn't doesn't have the freedom that some of
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: the other players have to move about the country as
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: they would say Southwest Airlines.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: So I I really think for Jalen Redmond specifically, what's
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: probably gonna happen is he'll be with the team, and
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: the Vikings will either try to negotiate with him and
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: if he's asking for too much, they'll just be like, fine,
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: we'll just have you for this upcoming season. We'll give
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: you the whatever the minimum is a million bucks for
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: this year, and then we'll try to negotiate again next year.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Or the Vikings could just say like, yeah, we're just
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: gonna you're you're worth a multi year deal and you're
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: worth x amount of ten million dollars a year or
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: whatever it is, and they'll just get him for five
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: years or so and go for that.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: And that makes Jalen Naylor's situation even more interesting because again,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: the Vikings could come in and say we'll offer you
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: five million dollars and he might come back and say, well,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: this other team's offering me ten. Sorry, yeah bye.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: And Jalen Naylor he is an unrestricted free agent, so
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: the second the league year ends and free agency starts,
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: he's not with the Vikings at all, and he can
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: talk to or not talk to any team he and
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: his agent wants to talk to. So which is I mean?
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Good?
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Free agency is good for players to be able to
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: get fair dollars and be compensated fairly and get as
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: much as they can while they're playing.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: So let me ask this question. Carson Wentz is a
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: name on this list that we haven't really talked about
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: a ton and by the time we get to August Man,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: we're going to be beating this stupid horse to death.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: I'm so done talking about quarterbacks.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: But I feel like we have to, Like there's just
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: nothing else worth talking about. Fans out there, friends of
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: the show, give us something else to talk about, yeah,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: and I will. I'll read up, I will educate myself
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: on something if there's something else out there. These games
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: have been fun, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll keep playing some games.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: But anyways, Carson Wentz unrestricted free agent. There's been all
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: this talk about bringing back a veteran somebody to help.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: There's been all these names tossed around, Kirk Cousins, Aaron Rodgers. Obviously,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: some of them and I'm not listing all of them
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: on purpose because you can go back to Probabs episodes
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: and get all that information. But some of them would
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: come in and be immediate starters. Some of them would
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: come in and be that veteran presence off the bench. Obviously,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is kind of in that weird middle ground
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: where he was actually the better starting quarterback for the Vikings.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: But not by a mile, not by much.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: But he was the better, more consistent starting quarterback, played
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: the game the way Kevin O'Connell wanted him to. Has
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: all the fundamentals, the mechanics, everything was there. The game
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: managing was there. Of the ball too long was there?
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: He just held onto the ball too long and he
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: got hurt. I mean, there's that, But Carson Wentz, is
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: he a sneaky like dark horse pick for that like
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: second string quarterback to continue to back up JJ McCarthy.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: If he's healthy and he wants to come back and
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: all the stars aligned, do you think the Vikings opt
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: not to go out and find somebody else and just
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: stick with him because he's a known quantity and he'll
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: probably get him for relatively jeez.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: I would say, yeah, I don't. I don't think they
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: really have anybody competing with them to sign him if
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: they even wanted to, if they wanted to resign him.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: I Dustin says, you know, he could be considered for
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: QB two, but he's probably the most interesting is like
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: a QB three. I mean, I would take Carson Wentz
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: over Max Brosmer, and at this point in their careers,
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: maybe not, you know, in both of their primes. Obviously
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: not in both their primes, because in his prime Carson
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: Wentz was an MVP level player that just prime you know,
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: injuries and age and everything kind of sizzled that one out.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: But at this moment, like if they came out and said, hey,
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: we've resigned Carson Wentz for one year, two million dollars
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: or whatever, ended up being something cheap, something that didn't
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: hinder the team from doing anything else, fine, I mean
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: he did valiantly, you know, stay on the field too long,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: and he put some blood, sweat and tears into keeping
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: the Vikings afloat and keeping Max Brosmer off the field
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: for as long as possible. Yeah, I think it'd be fine.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: I would be upset if they said, hey, we're signing
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: Carson Wentz for ten million and he's going to compete
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: for the QB one job like that. That would not
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: make me feel good about the team. But yeah, I
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: think if they brought him in as a backup or
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: a support player, maybe that emergency QB three or whatever, Sure,
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: that's fine.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Carson Wentz was a caphead of one point one nine
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: million dollars, So like, yeah, a million dollars, Like, that's
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: what I would pay for, and it.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: Well, we're not paying anything.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But if I were the GM, if I were
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: the owners, which the Vikings don't even have a GM
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: right now, which is kind of interesting, it.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: Will Robbie b.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: A million dollars for a backup quarterback. You've said before
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: on the show that the QB two is one of
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: the more important positions in football. QB one is obviously
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: the most important position in football, but on the short
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: list of important positions, QB two is on that short list.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: If you need an insurance policy if your best player
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: goes down, and you need a pretty good darn football player
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: to be that insurance policy. And I think Carson Wentz,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I wouldn't be if I were Vikings
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: management Kevin O'Connell, I wouldn't be completely dismissing Carson Wentz
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: at this point on February twenty third, twenty six.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: I would as a starter, But I don't think that's
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: what you're saying.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying as a starter. I'm just saying, like,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: as QB two. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna just
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: sniff my nose and say, nope, best of luck. You
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: did great. We literally hung you out to dry. You
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: were crucified on the field for us.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Although and I agree, I agree with what you're saying.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: But if you're looking at QB two for the Vikings
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: this year, it's gonna be one of two things. Hopefully,
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: if they do things aggressively and have the kind of
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: quarterback room they said they want to have, the QB
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: two will either be JJ McCarthy because.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: Someone else is gonna come in and start ahead of
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: him and he's gonna learn and develop behind them, ye.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Or you know, JJ McCarthy might be QB two because
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: they brought somebody in to compete with him and then
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: that other guy won the job outright.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Or which won't be hard to do.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Or QB two will be the guy that didn't win
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: the job outright against JJ McCarthy. So I think if
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: they're doing this right in the quarterback position, they need
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: to add somebody that's going to be somebody that is
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: a starter quality player, because it's got to be, you know,
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: an outright, honest, open competition between anybody in that quarterback room.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: And what I hope happens is that JJ McCarthy wins it,
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: and actually wins it, not just like, hey, you're still
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: a first round pick, so you kind of want it.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: And I hope you know, they bring somebody or somebody's
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: in to compete for a starting job, And if JJ
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: McCarthy's number two, that means he lost that starting job,
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: fair and square. And if they're bringing Carson Wentz in
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: to be QB two, they're not bringing him in to
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: beat JJ McCarthy for the job.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and so I guess a few caveats. Number one,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: I don't think it would. It would be the most
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: Vikings thing ever for the Vikings to go through all
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: this drama of Kyler Murray's out there and Anthony Richardson's
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: out there, and Aaron Rodgers could come over here, and
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins could come back, and there's there's all this right,
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: and it's all seemingly very plausible, very possible. It would
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: be the most Vikings thing ever for all this hype.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: And then we just announced today we're signing Carson Wentz
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: two million dollars one year. We're excited to have him
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: back consistency. We love the guy he really, you know, Like,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: am I wrong? Yeah? That's so. I'm just saying, like
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: we sit around and speculate all day long, but I
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: could see that being a legitimate reality. I don't hope
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: it is. I don't want it to be the case,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: but I'm just saying I'm trying to think through some
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: realistic lens. Is here another thing I keep thinking about
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: with what you've said now, is there kind of seems
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: to be these kind of like three levels. There's kind
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: of there's kind of like a middle ground, and then
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: there's kind of an extreme one way and extreme the
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: other the other way. The middle ground is JJ McCarthy
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: paired with a guy like Carson Wentz or someone like that,
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: right where JJ's not gonna have a ton of competition
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: for the job. The job is his, but he needs
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: that solid veteran to back him up.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: The extreme to one side would be what you said,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: somebody comes in to compete with him for the starting
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: job and wins the starting job over him, knocking JJ down,
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: and now it's Kyler Murray or it's whoever. I think
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: the other side of that coin is the Vikings go
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: the opposite direction. Instead of bringing in a competitive guy,
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: they bring in the proverbial starter, Like it's no question
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones, if he comes over, he's probably going to
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: start over JJ McCarthy. Aaron Rodgers, you would have to
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: guess he's going to start. Aaron Rodgers is not going
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: to sit the bench behind a third year quarterback anywhere
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: in the league. He didn't do it in Pittsburgh, he
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: didn't do it in New York. And he only did
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: it for a few years behind Brett Favn Green Bay
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: before he got the starting nod and then he won
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl and won the NFC North how many times? Right,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: And I.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Don't think Aaron Rodgers to say something I think you'll
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: agree with. I don't think Aaron Rodgers would come to
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Minnesota at all if he wasn't so like, all right,
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: come be our started this year, Like if unless it
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: was you know, if they were saying, hey, come compete
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: with JJ, he'd be like, I'm good, I'll just retire.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: But right, those are the two extremes though, right, Like,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: it's the extreme bring a guy in to compete with him,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: or bring a guy in. He's benched and this guy
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: is the starter until that starter loses it and then
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: JJ will come in. Right, It's kind of the like,
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: it's kind of like what the Colts did this year.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: It was like Daniel Jones and then he got hurt
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: and then did Richardson even start for them?
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Because when Jones went down, Richardson was still dealing with
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: that flute I socket injury that he had. He like
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: broke his orbit of bone with like a.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Band. Did you not know the worst?
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: It's yeah, from what I heard, it was like, you know,
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: pregame or some kind of practice. I think even warming
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: up before the game. He was like using one of
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: those big stretch like workout bands, like rubber bands things,
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: and it like hit him in the face and broke
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: like his orbital bone. And he was out for most
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: of the season because of that. And like so still
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: why they brought Philip Rivers in the air? Yeah, and
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: even then they've got who's it Riley Leonard?
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Is that that sounds right?
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Is that the rookie year, second year guy they have
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: when Daniel Jones went down, Leonard the guy that would
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: be you know QB two to step in. He got
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: like some knee injury, so they literally had nobody, nobody
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent healthy. So that's why they went and
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: got Philip Rivers because it was like a good story
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: and like no commitment. They didn't have to like try
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: to commit to him.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, actually he kind of played okay for a game.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it was fun. I had fun watching it.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: But when you have to bench him for a play
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: because you need to throw a hail mary and he
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: can't throw it that far, listen listeners. Me myself, I
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: probably can't throw a football forty yards like I maybe
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: thirty yards. So yeah, I'm no better than Philip Rivers.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: But also an NFL quarterback should be able to throw
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: a hail mary. But yeah, that's all it was is
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: Richardson was on IR and Leonard was at the time.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: All that to say, the most Vikings thing ever would
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: be all this hype, all this noise in the off season.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: Just to get back to now, we really like Carson Wentz.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: He's gonna be a solid QB two option. We're gonna
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: stick with JJ McCarthy. Yeah, we're gonna see what happens.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: I don't want Carson Wentz as a QB two. If
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: they bring him in, it's almost like camp arm or
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: QB three and just let him ride it out with
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: the Vikings for a year or two as that, like,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: so we don't have to sign Philip Rivers if four
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: guys go down, you know, like because like I said,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: I think QB two this year is either gonna be
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy or the guy that JJ McCarthy beats out.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: And I hope it's the guy that he beats out,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: because I think you hit the nail on the head
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: if they bring Murray, and it's probably not going to
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: be an open and honest competition. It's gonna be Kyler Murray.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: They bring Aaron Rodgers in, he's not even gonna come
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: in if he's got to compete for playing time. But
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: then mac Jones, I think is closer to I think
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: if they bring mac Jones in, it's still an open
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: and honest competition. And if mac Jones wins, which I
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: think he'd be the betting favorite to win the job,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: then good. It should be a competition for every position
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: every year unless you have a Hall of Famer starting
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: at that position, and even then compete. He's a Hall
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: of famer, he's gonna win.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: Who cares? Yep, that I think mac Jones is probably
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: a little bit more talented than J. J. McCarry.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: Probably, I'm not saying he's not, but I think mac
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: Jones is in that category, probably the highest level of
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: that category. That it's like, Okay, we still have a competition.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: I don't disagree. There are only thirty two starting quarterback
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: jobs in the NFL. Only thirty two men can hold
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: those positions, and right now Mac Jones isn't one of them. Correct.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Rock Perty is the starting quarterback for the forty nine ers,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it would be a little bit closer, but
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: I still think mac Jones wins that job. There's some
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: interesting ones too, Like we haven't really talked about Kirk Cousins,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: and I hope that we don't.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: Always going to bring this up.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: I hope we don't like have to, like have more
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: in depth conversations about Kirk. I love the guy and
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: I wanted to keep him, but at this point now
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, no, let's be done with that.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Well, you're kind of surprising me now, because really I
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: was I thought about this as you were talking a
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: few minutes ago. It's going to ask you the question
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: straight up on a scale of one to ten, how
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: much do you want Kirk Cousins back in Minnesota? And
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: not to throw shade at you, love you, ev, but
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: of the two of us, you're the one that would
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: more consistently bring up cousins name, So regardless of what
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: the cituuation was, Hey, he's you know, coming back and
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: starting right away, or well he's coming in to be depth,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: regardless of what the definition of his you know situation was,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: how much one to ten, ten being you want you
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: give your left arm for it, and one being like, ad,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: don't do it? How much do you want Kirk Crisons
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: back in Minnesota?
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: I think we saw enough in two seasons in Atlanta
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: with him to figure out, Like I think Atlanta even
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: knew before he'd even really taken a snap because they
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: drafted Michael Pennix like a.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: Month after they gave him to almost two hundred million dollars.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what's baffling is why did they pay him so
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: much money if they if they knew that Pennix was
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: the guy, and if they were going to trade up
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: to get him and all this.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: We were talking last week about that that GM coach
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: quarterback needs to be in line.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: YEP, and there was they were not in line. There
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: was definitely a misalignment there in a pretty egregious way.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: I think Kirk Cousins as great of a guy as
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: he is, and as many great seasons as he gave
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: the Vikings, and truth be told, he's near the top
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: of the list in Vikings quarterback history. Like yeah, probably
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: in a lot of statistical categories. He's not a no
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: name quarterback for the Vikings. We know who he is,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: we know what he did, and nobody can nobody can
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: talk bad about anything he's done off the field. He's
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: only ever had a positive reputation. It would be interesting
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: to see him back, But I'm gonna put my foot
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: in the ground and say I don't want that right now.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: The time is now for the future, and Kirk Cousins
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: is not the future of the Vikings franchise. JJ McCarthy
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: might be he's hanging onto that title by a thread,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: but he might be. There are other names out there
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: that might be Mac Jones, might be Kyler Murray, might
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: be that those are weird names to say, they might
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: be right, even like I think you had posted something
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: on our accounts earlier this week about Anthony Richardson comparing
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: him to JJ and who would win in a camp
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: battle essentially like, Okay, maybe let's let's see, you know,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: if we could do that like in a simulation and
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: not actually like play out some of those realities, I'd
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: be all for it. Kirk Cousins doesn't fit in that mold,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: and Kirk Cousins would have to be a QB two
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: and he would be a very expensive QB two.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and some team is going to sign him as
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: QB one and he's gonna have some success with them.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: And I think he's a better QB one than a
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: QB two. I think he's still got a little bit
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: of playing in him, but he's going to be more
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: of the like he's going to be more of the
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, the Philip Rivers this year that he's gonna
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: I think spots start a little bit more and start
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: to see his consistency as a starter Wayne, and he'll
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: be He'll be that guy that comes in and fills
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: in the gap for some teams. That's my prediction. And
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't foresee him back in Minnesota in
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: a in a in a long term QB two role
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: where he's just sitting the bench waiting to go in.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that's the reality for him.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I enjoyed Kirk Cousins as the Vikings quarterback. I
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: had my ups and downs as a fan of his,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: but he's a good dude overall. I think he was
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: a positive presence for the Vikings when he was here.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: We don't need him back. I feel like saying we
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: want Kirk Cousins back is the same as saying we
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: need shoot, we need who's the This is so major
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: brain fart right now, Case Keenum. It's like saying when
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: he Case Keenum back, you know, like.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: Let's let's five years ago, I would have taken Case
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: Keenan back. I really would have.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: Were you one of those same well, I.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: Mean after the miracle game and after that season, I
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: mean what Sam Bradford played one game, Yeah, he looked
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: like an MVP and then won hurt and then Keenum
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: took over and the Vikings made the playoffs, made it
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: to the NFC Championship game and lost, And I don't know,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: I was I was pro Keenum at that point. And
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: the Vikings have a way of doing that to us too,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: where they're like, yeah, we had this really great quarterback.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah we traded him. Yeah we let him walk in
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: free agency. Yeah we cut him.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: Come on, guys, yeah it I mean, Keenum was different
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: than Sam Donald. Keenum went on to not do anything ever.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: Has been a journeyman. He's been a journeyman quarterback. I
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: think it wasn't Keenum the backup on a Super Bowl team.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: M maybe, I don't know.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: I think he I could be wrong, but I feel
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: like he has a ring I don't know, as a
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: back interesting anyways, not that that matters a ton, Yeah,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: but I was definitely pounding the table for case Keenum
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: after the Minneapolis Miracle and they let him go. I
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: would have loved to see him back. I thought he
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: brought a lot of consistency, but he also brought a
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: lot of just enthusiasm energy. He's a good guy too.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: I mean he's kind of like a Kirk Cousins. He's
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a louder Kirk Cousins, a little
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: bit more of a flamboyant Kirk Cousins. Good guy, wholesome guy,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: family guy, you know, not getting awakened by the cops
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: at three in the morning in his sports car on
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: the freeway because he fell asleep drunk, right, Like, we
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: all know who we're talking about there, What a good dude,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: you know. Did he ever win a super Bowl? By
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: your quick cursor research.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: There, No, he was on the Rams in twenty sixteen,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: but I don't know if that's the year they lost
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: the super Bowl. Either way, I don't think Keenum has
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: a ring. Yeah. Either way, we've got plenty of time
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: to hash out the quarterback position for the Vikings. It's
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: that rut that we keep falling into every episode. But
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: either way, there's a ton of free agents, and I
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: think the silver lining for the Vikings this year, even
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: with a ton of free agents, is there's not a
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: it's not most of the list that you're thinking, a crap,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: Now we have to try to find a way to
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: sign all these guys back. I think a lot of
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: these free agents are able to be replaced by other
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: free agents or cheaper deals with the same guys, or
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: draft picks. It is interesting that they don't have a
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: ton of like heavy hitter guys that it's like, oh,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: we have to sign Justin Jefferson or it's the worst
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: and I'm you know, throwing away all my jerseys because
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: you know, they've signed some of the big name guys
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: that they've had. Dustin Baker kind of pointed out in
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: this article, which again guys go read that article, but
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: he points out, I mean, there's not a ton of
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: heavy hitters because Quacy didn't draft very well. So like,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: you're not talking about guys that are in their third
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: and fourth years that are like, oh man, this this
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: guy that we drafted in twenty twenty two is all
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: of a sudden the best wattenbacker in the league, and
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: we need to make sure that we keep him. I mean,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: the closest we have is you know, ive and Pace.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: For a minute, looked like he might turn into that,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: and even now his his career is pretty young enough
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: that he can kind of turn it around. But yeah,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: none of these guys that are about to be free
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: agents are guys that I'm like, I was super excited, like, oh,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: the Viking's drafted in the first round, so we need
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: to make sure that, you know, they keep him because
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: he's been playing great the last few years.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: Well, to take a similar thread, like if you look
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: on spot rack right now, some of the highest paid
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: Vikings players are either players that Quaycy brought in through
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: free agency or weren't drafted by Quaycy. Like Justin Jefferson
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: not drafted by Quaycy. Highest paid player going into the
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: next year, Jonathan Allen brought in by Quaycy. So that shows,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: you know, and a few others Jonathan Grenard Hargrave, Van Ginkel,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: Will fries Aaron Jones brought in by Quacy. He was
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: really good at playing the free agent game, really good
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: at working it out with other teams, working it out
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: with players agents to bring these guys in. But like
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: Brian O'Neill, another big time player for the Vikings, not
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: drafted by Quaycy. And I don't I think you can
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: go down the line. I don't think really anybody but
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: Christian darrisaw on this list. He was not drafted by
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: Spielman's last Spielman's last draft. Okay, so I stand corrected.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: I think the biggest draft successes Quaycy has had and
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: we've done this episode is Jordan Addison. And then you're
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: talking a bunch of undrafted guys, Like I've in pace
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: for a minute, was like, oh he found a diamond
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: in the rough, and then he had a rough season
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five, lost his starting job, but still
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: like decent guy Jalen Redmond another diamond in the rough guy,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: but not a draft pick. Nobody drafted him. He was
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: in the UFL for a year or two. But yeah,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: it's it'd be different. We would be having a lot
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: different conversation if Quacy was like a draft guru and
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: he would still have a job with the team, you know,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: like if he had hit on draft picks. So like, yeah,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: it's a at the moment, it's kind of nice that
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: we don't have to sweat the Vikings signing ten guys
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: that they're about to lose that they can't afford to lose.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: But also that's a bigger sign of worse things.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: One more question. Yeah, we'll keep it quick because running
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: out of beer. Yeah, we need to get things wrapped
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: up here. But the thought just occurred to me. We
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: always talk about Quacy couldn't draft, Cauaysey couldn't draft, and
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: I myself just pointed out this list of like all
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: non Quacy draft picks that are the highest paid Vikings players.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: But on the other side of that sentiment is and
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: like teams like the Packers are known for this draft
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: and what.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: Draft and what I mean. The Packers are not the
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: greatest example because they've never been huge like free agent signings,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: but it's draft and free agency you build, you or
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: draft and develop.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, draft and develop, right, draft and develop.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: I'll correct myself. The Packers are good the example of
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: that because they do draft and develop pretty well.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: So I would ask the question, and I'm just playing
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: Devil's advocate here, do the Vikings develop well? And is
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: that Quaysy's fault? I mean, he can draft all he wants,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: He could find great players all he wants, But if
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: those players aren't developed, if they aren't worked into the system,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: you know that that could be the other side of
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: the coin that I mean at the end of the day.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: And we talked about this last week. It was the
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: title of our episode last time. Who's to Blame? I
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: think we both kind of said Quacy, but he kind
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: of seemed like the fall guy, right, Like I wonder.
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  Speaker 2: He was absolutely at least the first fall guy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if that's part of this equation. It's
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  Speaker 1: not just about drafting players, it's about developing them too, right,
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  Speaker 1: Like we didn't the Vikings didn't draft Marcus Davenport, right,
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  Speaker 1: we brought him in in free agency, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that was a quacy thing, was it?
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  Speaker 2: That was his first big free agent, was first free agent.
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  Speaker 1: But so it kind of goes against my point, but
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  Speaker 1: it kind of plays into my point too, like we
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  Speaker 1: brought in a guy and we didn't develop it. He
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  Speaker 1: stayed the same and he continued to be this like
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  Speaker 1: bump on a log that didn't do anything. All the
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  Speaker 1: talent in the world could have been a world class
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  Speaker 1: NFL defensive player could have been had had the potential,
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  Speaker 1: but never tapped into it, and nobody on the on
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  Speaker 1: the Vikings organization really was able to get that out
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  Speaker 1: of him. And no one else anywhere else has really
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: gotten that out of him either, to be fair, and
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  Speaker 1: there are just some people that are like that for sure,
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  Speaker 1: but draft and develop, Like how many of these draft
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: picks had we been excited about And once the Vikings
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: drafted him, we started going back to like, oh man, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they were pretty good in college, and he got all
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: excited about him and then they just flopped right, Like
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: maybe development is part of it too, and maybe maybe
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: that's part of the soul searching ownership has to do
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: here is we don't need to just find a GM
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  Speaker 1: who can assemble a roster, but then we need to
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: find staff that can develop that roster and not just
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: put all of that on KOC and the coaching staff.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: Like I think there's a bridge there between management and coaching,
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  Speaker 1: and there are legitimate positions in the NFL called player
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  Speaker 1: development that help players not just on the field, but
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: in all aspects of life, you know, acclimating to making
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: a lot more money, and acclimating to playing on the
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: biggest stage in the sport, and so many other things.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: The mental health part of it, the like just nutrition, diet,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: all that stuff, like player development. I wonder if that's
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: maybe a missing piece here, And maybe organizations like the
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: Packers have figured it out, Like they've got a good GM,
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  Speaker 1: they draft quality talent players, and then they've got other
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: people in the organization that develop those young players into
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: the players they want them to be.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think you're absolutely right. All right, man,
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  Speaker 2: I think I think we did what we did last week.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: We squeezed all the juice out of this episode. Really really,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: it's it's dry now. So what were your final thoughts
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: on this beer from Exile the forage nut brown Ale.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: This is a super good beer. Like, we don't have
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: clear glasses, but I'm kind of looking at it. Yeah empty,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: It's it's darker, which I like. I like a good
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: dark beer, especially right now in the winter. Yeah, it's
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: cold out, something that warm me up a little bit.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: I also like that it's not super heavy alcohol. Like, yeah,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of favoring the lighter stuff.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: There's a time and a place for the seven eight percenters.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: There's also a lot more times and places for the
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: four sevens and the five.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: Percent and and like I don't need the super boozy
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: ones like this is this just hits the spot. It's good,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: and I know that I will not be worse off
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: tomorrow morning when I wake up, I'll be great. It'll
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: be good. And that's the way I want to feel.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: I want to enjoy a few I want to have
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: good conversation, and I want it to taste good. And
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, if it can check
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: those boxes, I don't care if it's an I P
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: A or if it's a brown ale or a whatever. Yeah,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: give me, give me anything like this. This is good,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: good stuff.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: I agree. And this one's really good. It's full flavor,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: It's everything you'd want. When you pick up this can,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: you read Nut Brown Ale Exile. I say it about
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: everything every brewery, but it's true about every Iowa brewery.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: For the most part, they just only put out good beers.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: So if this is in your wheelhouse, go ahead and
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: seek it out. The Exile Brewing Company forage Nut Brown Ale.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: It's got a cool squirrel on the can. Can art's
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: pretty cool. I've liked it a lot. I've really enjoyed it.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: Evan.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: If people want to keep the conversation going, how can
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: they reach out to us, Well.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: I think they should first comment on anything, Comment on Spotify,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: comment on YouTube. Those are where we publish our episodes.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: Obviously they go out to other places from there, but
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: you can directly interact with us on those two platforms.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: You can also drop us a line on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: Those are kind of the big ones that were on
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: a lot. Comment on something there, drop us a message,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: But yeah, those are kind of the best places. Otherwise,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: it's a good old email the schoolhap at gmail dot
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: com hit us up. We check that pretty regularly too.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I will be making an appearance here
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: in the next handful of days on another podcast, the
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: Bare Minimum Show. They used to be it's the guys
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: that used to do the the Mainstream podcast. We did
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: a live event with them, shoot just over a year
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: ago now, but yeah, I'm gonna be on with them.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: We might bring up how Quasi Dafamensa did the Bare
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: Minimum as the Vikings GM, so keep an eye out
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: for that. We'll probably put repost or you know, send
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: a link out to whenever that episode comes out here
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: in the next handful of days. But yeah, pretty excited
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: about that.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be fun. Sad I have to miss it.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be okay, one of these times we'll get
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: you out there, all right, man, Well, this is a
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: really good episode. Even though we fell into the quarterback
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: conversation Rod, it was still pretty good.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: I have a feeling it's gonna happen a lot more.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: We probably got another couple of years at least of
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: well quarterback I don't know, so hopefully they get that
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: figured out.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: Well until then, Yeah, good beer. Maybe best episode yet.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's cool.
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