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International Keyforge Players Finally Get Organized Play Announcement · Archons Corner

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  So Hi, this is Michael Hurley from Ghost Galaxy and you're listening to our
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  CON's corner. All right, what's going on? Everybody? I am the
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  one, the only, the w o okay. I joined here by the
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  normal cast of misfits. We got big z Hey, we got drazz Car.
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  Hey, guys, how's it going? See? I feel like I
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  should do it like like sheep y'alls brob and I should be like dras Car.
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  Do you that sounds right? Right? We got sheep yep, we
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  got the lakes of Ewaks. Wllo. Key Forge community, glad to be
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  here on another weekly rant of joyous key Forge talk. We have the elf
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  that hails from the south southerly off. Oh all right, some work to
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  do today, gentlemen. We have this article to go over and we have
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  predictions. So where should we start? We have one article to go through.
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  Well, there's three, but we've already we've already. I mean boys,
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  there were there were three talking about one stick and nail involved in the
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  three talks with us on time this. Yeah, well some of us are
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  with our family, but I mean Gigi, they wrote three well written,
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  they wrote three yes, yes, I mean put out. This is I
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  mean one was on play Styles, which is their new tournament software, UM,
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  which I don't know. It seems to me like it's a bit of
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  a Chalange clone. No, no, okay, I think that's how it
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  felt to me. But if you're telling me I'm wrong, then I'm wrong.
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  I mean it's focused on the individual players perspective of as opposed to the
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  overall tournament's perspective, which which is an interesting different take and might do,
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  which is which is weird because the overall players perscriptive is I got that right
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  right well, um of the tournament Bractice system. The play Style app itself
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  was fine. It was actually pretty good for it's like basically it's beta,
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  which is what we were like the first real group that used it in mass
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  So like, I think it's going to be something that will be really good
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  for us in the future, especially once the local organizers get access to it.
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  If it only if those can be run as not double elimination, it
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  should be great. I remember, Challenge is not great with a ninety nine
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  player to Challenge is actually were horrible like end user experience, It's actually fine
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  on the t O side. I've run Challenge many many types of ways and
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  as someone setting up that's actually not bad as far as getting your users to
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  use it well is not the easiest. Yeah, there's a lot of control
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  f and being like wait which round is this? Is this my matchup?
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  And you scroll to the top, Wait did I slide to the left or
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  right? Acape? Yeah? Play style app like it clearly shows you who
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  you're caired with, where you're supposed to go, the time left in the
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  round. And that was all just his first pilot run. So like I
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  think, but there's lots of positive a lot of credit, but like this
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  is not new technology, like Magic has been doing this for years. Yeah,
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  no, no, no, no, that that was good. We
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  didn't have it before for key Forge right up talking about but like, yeah,
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  this is not If you start talking about Magic, I'll tell you what.
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  I don't give a shit, Like, let's get to the next team
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  for than Magic has been using this for years, been using it for years
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  to bring us if you want to bring us the games that are new.
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  I also played fab they also did not have something like this really no wow,
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  Yeah I actually thought that this worked out really really well. It was
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  nice. Um they needed to clean up the TBD like versus your and that's
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  and they just right there, they'd already talked to them. Yeah, so
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  should that shouldn't really just be like you have a three hour break? Is
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  that what it should say? Well, no, it shouldn't say that at
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  all, because that should never be a damn thing. So you have not
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  going to support ways to promote bad ideas, and you have a buy this
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  round, then we're gonna do lunch, and it's possible you have to buy
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  the next round too. I mean if they keep it as is, if
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  you lose round one, the app should tell you you should drop from this
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  event and go play something else. We'd appreciate your money. The problem them
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  is is that you've now turned it from double elimination as single and you have
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  nothing else to do because most outside of Nationals for there being, I know
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  what he's trying to be facetious, but it's really being facetious. It's a
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  problem. It's a problem. Is anyway, I thought the play style app
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  was great. We then get into another article which is awesome as well,
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  vault Master's whoa community whoa whoa whoa. Well, people are just in love
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  with this right head over heels I think the article made it seem like things
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  were fine. The article's fine, there's nothing wrong with the article. It's
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  absolutely fine. But the world's on fire if you're international or didn't get an
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  opportunity to buy ball Master decks. So I do, except I wonder somehow,
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  I don't know how I'm okay with this, Like I should be tearing
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  these to shreds. And I think a lot of people look to it and
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  we're like, well, how are you not tearing these to shreds? You're
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  you're the contrarian, right, It doesn't exactly shift the meta, right,
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  Like, let's say this is this is like a master set to me,
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  right, Like it's a bunch of reprints, Like that'll be good, but
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  like, don't really take anything further. Wookie, Wookie, No, no,
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  you are not upset because that sheep who is very very oddly quiet over
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  in the background, gave you one of his vault Masters because it is so
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  important, it is so highly valued. It was just given to you.
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  Wow. The problem is I'm not open to my other one yet. I
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  haven't either. And the end result is because we saw one deck that has
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  frankly some good cards in it, people are absolutely losing their gourd over it.
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  And what's always been strong for us is the community, like, don't
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  tear each other apart. This is not that big of a deal. Um.
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  There's a lot of different reasons. There was one that was like one
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  oh five sass or speculated one oh five sass or whatever we hear all the
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  time that we shouldn't go ahead and pay attention to sad, which is so
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  funny because the same people who are like SAS doesn't matter also are the ones
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  that are complaining the most about this deck. This is true, and the
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  end result is play the deck. Let's see where it actually comes out.
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  It's gonna end up where every other hundred plus SAS deck is. It's going
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  to be good, but it's not winning anything. So I do so.
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  I don't necessarily now or feel like I have a crystal balls to how competitive
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  this is going to be. But I do sympathize with folks who are overseas
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  who haven't gotten woe yet, haven't gotten unchained yet, and now have another
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  thing they don't yet have. I'm hoping once their game bounds arrived and stuff
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  is in store, an watch some creepy video with a whole bunch of people
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  looking down then looking up with keyboards cards in their hand, telling us they
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  were getting a vault to her, A whole bunch of attractive but very attract
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  Actually, I forgot to watch that video and he didn't miss much. Let
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  go watch that right now. I mean, it's it's fine, but this
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  is a good video. I don't know, you gotta talk about I like
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  the Sheep's video much better. If you think I think that the video is
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  perfectly fine, I am happy that. Yeah, I thought it was a
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  good job. Where is this video? Actually? For those I already know,
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  but for the listeners some on YouTube, you do I believe it was
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  which is an Italian team Facebook? I don't do that. Yeah you don't.
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  I mean theoretically yeah whatever. So I mean, Vault Master is a
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  thing that exists. It's designed to get people to the Vault tours. Um.
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  Yeah, and again our cast has mostly set our stance on this.
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  We largely don't care. It's not going to impact a whole bunch. It
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  can impact anything, it's just it's too small of a pool to be the
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  reason it's not going to impact anything is simple. It doesn't have token,
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  it doesn't have to tokens in that set very soon. That's all that's going
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  to matter. So we'll see, all right. But the real article that
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  does matter, because I guess we're just going articles first, is I'm in
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  the wrong thing. Crown your national champion, which is new? This is
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  real news here, this is a new one. This one is interesting.
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  This is for both national championships. Correct? What are you talking for the
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  internationals? Is this the items that are also going to be at gen Con?
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  Uh? Yeah, I would expect that some level of the stuff will
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  be a gen Con. But you are right, we are in. Yes,
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  it does not say this is what's gonna be a jang down. You
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  know. I love it just cuts me off when I have like this question.
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  He's just like yeah, yeah, yeah, that's because you're trying to
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  make it come out of something. There's no drama and maybe because ship they
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  actually bring more of this leftover twenty twenty stuff leftover, so one thing is
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  not left over, that's right. So I mean, if you if you
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  win that mat, you're bringing that mat places, it'll be on my wall.
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  Well yeah, but I would have liked that, like I have.
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  I appreciate my math wall. Yeah, it says, uh, National you
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  know whatever, or Connor Alliance champion winning the Alliance when somehow I would just
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  sell that because I want it? Does Does anyone else see that? There
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  are three mats there? So I get that this is a National Alliance champion,
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  National Archon champion. What's the third map for? Is this second Ambert
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  champion? What? What's what? There's three mats? I think the first
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  word in that what is that there's something it's gonna be like top four thing
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  because if you read the thing, there's you get a top four mat.
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  Yeah, right right, and that pointless finish. Top eight No, top
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  eight is one set of arts in one set of acrylic. Yet going into
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  that, let's read, let's yeah, twenty twenty three National Championship kit.
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  The champion will receive one Champion play Matt, one key Forge Vault deck box,
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  one set of premium keys, which is our new pre These are the
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  twenty twenty one premium keys. We have no idea, We have no we
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  have no idea. Okay, they do not look like the traditional like very
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  first keys, so I said, they do look like the twenty twenty Grand
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  champ keys. But I'm not certain because you can't see the size of them.
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  You're gonna get a set of art sleeves which will tear up your fingers,
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  a set of acrylic Yeah, they're gonna hurt no matter what you do.
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  They definitely look like the old sleeves that they had, like the art
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  was always nice on them. But they are very hard and I have softer
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  hands, like these cut they cut my hands after hands. Yeah. Yeah,
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  you're gonna get a set of acrylic stunt tokens, which these ones are
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  yellow, not blue, and an invite to the World Championships. The runner
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  up will receive one runner up play map, one set of premium keys,
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  one set of art sleeves, one set of acrylic stun tokens, and it
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  invite to the World Championships. What are you not? What do you get
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  that you're not getting in the first Sun champions or you're not getting the deck
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  box which you can also well the pick. Sure they would be different,
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  Oh, I guess on the side. It's this one says second, so
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  I'm assuming it would be like first, second whatever. Top four receives a
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  Top four play matt, one set of art sleeves, and one set of
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  acrylic stunt tokens. Top eight will get one set of art sleeves and one
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  set of stunt tokens. They don't mention the armor tokens there at all,
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  do they know? They do? Continue second number for second number prize raffles
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  one through five, one set of art sleeves and one set of a metal
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  armor tokens metal who I like? Metal? Which? Which? Like?
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  What? Like there's still not a thing right, Well, I guess they
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  made armor tokens in winds Yeah. What is referring to is that technically there
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  are notes like the old based on the old floor rules we used to have,
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  which there are no armor tokens in key Ford, so therefore it is
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  not an It is just a note on the board. Um. I've never
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  seen anybody pressed about the super wit either way. But I've also actually never
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  seen anyone at an opie event use armor token, so like it's been the
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  moot to this point. But yes, technically there is no armor token and
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  keyboards, although it is produced by all Right. Price six will be a
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  set of art sleeves and one dust scrunch runner statuette. Price seven will be
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  one set of art sleeves and a security enforcer statuette ever heard of that card?
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  That's cool? And Rapple eight will be a set of art sleeves and
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  a nipple ape statuette. Also, Civil Enforcer is just security security enforcer,
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  Yeah, security orcer. I do think now they've never marketed that one before.
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  Is moon next set? It definitely needs to have a security Enforcer though,
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  just because like the Star Alliance is going to be in the next set,
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  I don't care if it is or isn't, just shove it in there.
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  Additionally, there will be nine extra sets of art slaves and a six
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  foot long key Forge National Championship Vinyl banner with a banner stand included in the
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  kits. What if you receive one of these, immediately send it to your
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  local joker. Yeah. So so this was one of those things where my
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  first reaction was like what, and then like immediately jokers like I must have
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  this, And I was like, Okay, this is definitely like a little
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  bit of a niche thing. But there are people who he said you must
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  have it because it is a synctom banner. Well yes, but still still
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  there are going to be people who want this sort of honestly, out of
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  literally everything listed here, other than the actual invite two worlds. That is
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  the only thing that I would want personally, because I would put it up
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  in my in the room I'm in right now. It would be something that
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  would hang on my wall. Yeah, I'd put down the wall for shure.
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  Yeah, put it in my bedroom. The wife would be with that.
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  When do you think yet? Just right next to the bad good mine
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  sick a leg Z there we go. Yeah, I feel so sanctimonious.
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  Hold on, let me retract this. If you could go ahead and have
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  it retract? Oh, so you can go ahead and bask in your glory.
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  Yes, does the disco ball aliso dropped down and start playing like some
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  manilo or something? Yo? Yeah, you gotta do it. You slowly
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  bring it back outtake time, all right. World Championship invites first and the
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  second place in each our kind an Alliance National Championship. We'll receive an invitation
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  to attend twenty twenty three keyboards from championships. There's November Adal first ten National
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  Championship applecations approved by Ghost Galaxies will be offered up to fifteen hundred dollars USD
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  in travel assistance to each of their two national Championships to help them attend the
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  twenty twenty three Key Forward World Championship event in Rooseville, Minnesota. Hey,
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  maybe we could win a travel stipend to Minnesota. Yeah. The only flight
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  that was at the right time happened to have a layover in Maui. It
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  was really weird. Yeah, so the only ticket left was first class guys
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  taking a limo all the way there. Whoa, that's right. I still
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  want Jeremy to pick us up. We can get a party can be expensed.
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  Yeah, only if it is the Wienermobile. Oh yes, now we're
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  talking. Okay, So for for all the people who will potentially win this,
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  it does give them a stipend. But are you reading this the same
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  fifty one hundred dollars travel assistance to each of them to reimbursement. That's what
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  I said. I got that and I totally understand it. But up to
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  their two national champions Yeah yeah, so if you take ten national championship applications
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  approved by Ghost Galaxy will be able to offer up to fifteen hundred dollars USD
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  in travel assistance to each of their two national championships to help them at time
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  the twenty twenty chap keyboard. Yep, but is that the Archon champion and
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  the Lions champions are really viewing it as both any other confusion? That's clearly
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  what they mean. You each country can only have one of these things,
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  like one of the Yeah. But the reason I'm saying this is our runner
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  up has a World Championship invite two. Well there, so you actually have
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  four people who are going so I read and that's why I'm trying to slow
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  it down. Well, but it says to each of their two national champions.
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  So I do believe first and only first place is national champion. Yeah,
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  second place get a World So you if you take second, you're seeing
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  this. I actually see it as that they're going to offer that stipend.
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  No, you sometimes you read things really weird. Only the champions get a
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  stipend. So if you get seconds, you're just They will offer up to
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  fifteen hundred dollars American in travel assistance to their two national champions. That means
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  one alliance and one says Ze and I are Scrubs and Drazz Corp as a
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  Vault Tour winner. Right, That's that's how this works. Like we didn't
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  get anything draft core really didn't get anything either. But that's besides the point.
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  How that how that travel reimbursement go for you? Dra not so great?
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  But I guess so you you guys still see it as that second isn't
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  gonna get No, I'm on here, see it correctly. That's how it's
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  right. That's exactly walk Rot. Well, why why does the definition of
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  champion for US? I can but the late listed for two national champions?
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  I hear that, But again, when that's fine, you can go home.
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  But again, if we want the best of the best, if you've
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  made it to one and two, if you're second in your nation and you
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  can't get over because of that, that yeah, that's that's rough. Tough
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  cookies. Just like if you went a volktur you don't get a stipend.
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  All right? There, sharees the walk bot champion. Person who has defeated
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  or surpassed all rivals in a competition, especially in sports. Wow, that's
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  job, walk Bot. I think I heard you say there. You must
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  have passed all rivals. If you are second, you are you are sol.
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  I'm fairly certain that, having read through all of these amazing articles,
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  that things have you know, changed as we've gone forward. So if that's
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  why I'm trying to be able to ask, I'm trying to stick up for
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  our international community because frankly, for worlds are all like five miles away from
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  each other. Okay, so like Germany can have one France a lot of
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  their countries. Yeah, how that a lot of their countries touched, so
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  you can you can attend multiple national championships overseas well, the imperial system doesn't
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  exist over there, so who's to say if it's five miles apart or not?
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  Right, that's right, Yeah, it's not like I can go down
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  to Illinois and be Illinois national champion. Doesn't it Europe like fit in Texas?
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  Yes, most of Europe fits in Texas. Yes, I know,
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  I know. That's just like the Texas day. Right. Well, so
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  this is think is interesting. This is the amount, right, they're giving
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  away up to three grand, which really it's probably not get a full fifteen
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  hundred dollars reimburse smith. Let's say it's three grand for each of these.
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  That's another thirty thousand dollars potentially that they just put up as prize money this
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  year, and they're ghost galaxies take well, but if you have to fly
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  um south our Spirit. I'm sorry, you have to fly Spirit. That's
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  the only stipulation. No, it's starts the stut on here. Oh that's
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  not in there. No, okay, never mind. So all they get
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  they get five hundred dollars for the kit, which really at the rate at
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  which they said these need to be ordered and started, like they're got to
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  pay expensive shipping for this box of stuff. Actually, if you read the
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  article, let's plus shipping, right, it was plush right. So anyways,
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  for the travel assistants, it's a reimbursement, so you got to shell
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  it out to get it back. No cash will be directly given to anybody.
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  What did I miss? Their contingents upon attendance minimums qualifying our kind of
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  alliance tournament must host eight plus attendees to provide twenty twenty three invite sixteen plus
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  to provide the travel assistance. So you at least have to have sixteen plus
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  people to get the travel assistants. So good luck winning Alliance or getting that
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  travel stipend for Alliance. It'll just run them separately. They'll have the same
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  sixteen people playing both events. All right, So the kit kit pricing and
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  availability. The kit is priced at five hundred dollars of US and includes free
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  international shipping. Yeah, you have to purchase it to run a national championship.
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  Ye, yes, please the prizes we got for free? Please please?
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  Let's see only one per country. I doubt they got it for free,
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  but well, I mean, I'm sure it was built into the cost.
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  Yes, yeah, but you're fluted in the Dealina like its own country.
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  Guy. Oh my god, you're not getting your own national ship.
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  I like your idea of doing one, not cruise ship. Yes, yes,
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  I think we should have one, an international water, international waters.
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  We can all book book cruise. We will have it while you wear elt
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  thinking too small. We get on a cruise ship, and then each port
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  has its own national championships. Let's go. Yeah, Granada, Barbados,
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  Saint Lucia, let's do this thing. Neither of you well maybe, but
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  cheap. Will be too wasted to play any key forge. Oh no,
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  I don't get the drink package. Oh you don't get the drink coffee package.
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  And I'm so hyped up on coffee it's crazy. Defined too wasted to
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  play key forge um Wookie on most days. Yes, yes, after a
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  long day work me all right, So let's get to the requirements. I
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  don't think there are anything too crazy in here. Uh. The must be
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  run between August thirteenth in October thirteenth, so you have a month to receive
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  it. What's today's date? Today is July twenty seventh, applied by August
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  eighth. I don't know if so we have to apply by August eighth at
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  the week. Better figure all that out. Boys like later they can have
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  an event. That's cool? Oh you mean you need to let everyone in
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  your country can get to it. Calm down, people, all right?
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  To receive any benefits outlined above and offer valid invites to the twenty twenty three
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  key Forge World Championships hosted in Roseville, Minnesota. Failure to run the event
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  in the time will forfeit those benefits and invites. Oh, come on,
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  shortness, that buddy? All right? No, I'm reading it all.
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  The highlight plan for a space for thirty two to sixty four seats is preferred.
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  Larger venues are preferred to smaller ones. You need to record your own
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  staff and qualified judges. What I wonder what qualifies is a qualified judge?
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  Anyways? Events must include they must include Alliance tournament and in our kind tournament
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  and second MdeR. I like how they lead with Alliance. You have to
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  have Alliance, you must they put it in ABC order. It is very
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  important that all of our tournament formats are represented. Purchasing a key fort NAP
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  National Championship Kit is an agreement to run all of these tournaments. These events
• 26:49
  may be spaced out across multiple days or run all in one day based on
• 26:53
  local factors. Play styles must be used to run the event. Wait,
• 26:59
  wait, can if I can space it out across multiple days? Ye?
• 27:03
  Could I run it on three different weekends? Why not it was lined this
• 27:07
  between October or I'm sorry, August thirteenth. In October thirteenth. I think
• 27:11
  the answer is yes, Yeah, that's what I mean. Like when I
• 27:15
  said they had to hit the sixteen people, like, it's gonna be the
• 27:17
  same sixteen players playing in both events, just like we're gonna have the same
• 27:19
  seventy two players playing at both events at gen Con, Like it's yeah,
• 27:26
  I just I just agree on that second statement. And I say that because
• 27:30
  there's a whole bunch of people I already know who signed up for our concent
• 27:34
  of the same players, I think that you're going to be closer to ninety
• 27:38
  percent or lower. And I do think that that's what some people are doing,
• 27:41
  especially with gen Con and the ability to go play other games. People
• 27:45
  a voice. No, I'm not playing a line, so I'm gonna go
• 27:47
  ahead and run something else. Okay, So I'm curious to see what those
• 27:52
  stats come out. I do think overall most of you probably, but for
• 27:56
  these people, yes, I agree. Talking about it nationally, it's gonna
• 27:59
  be largely the same group of people laying on both days. But you have
• 28:04
  to use play styles. Yeah, that's there. I'm set up to charge
• 28:08
  one event key for each ARCon an Alliance tournament. Instructions for how to access
• 28:14
  to software and set up event keys will be provided to the organizer once the
• 28:17
  tournament's proved to Organizers or event venues may charge additional reasonable entry fees to cover
• 28:22
  their costs. So what was interesting is one event key for each ARCon and
• 28:26
  Alliance tournament. Yep, So the two keys two keys, whereas the vaults
• 28:32
  have just been I mean, you're only playing on gen Con there, it's
• 28:37
  going to take two keys there as well. If you're playing in both,
• 28:41
  do you want to eat up those shards, boys and girls, I do
• 28:45
  need to buy two keys. How much is a key? Fifty keys?
• 28:52
  What he's saying is turning his called an event key. They have to spind
• 28:59
  And I thought you meant like you had to buy shards to buy a key.
• 29:03
  Yeah, I would like you don't be able to buy sixty seven more
• 29:07
  keys. Yeah all right, Southerly, you've been way, way, way
• 29:11
  too quiet. What do you think about this timing of the event requirements?
• 29:18
  Yeah, it's a it's a bit short for the event organizers, leaving two
• 29:22
  to three months to try and get everything together. Um. I mean,
• 29:25
  don't get me wrong, it's it's doable, but it's not ideal. I
• 29:33
  mean I think we've been like talking about how there might not be a large
• 29:37
  presence of internationals at Worlds. Um, this is a very truncated timeframe from
• 29:42
  being an organization that has run one of like a much larger size of what
• 29:47
  they're talking about here. Um, but at least there is an avenue,
• 29:51
  like that is the good in this There is now an avenue for actually way
• 29:56
  more international players to arrive at World than US players. Technology because like,
• 30:03
  well, no, that's just the voucher thing, like there's like fifty billion
• 30:07
  countries obviously not in Europe. There's a lot of countries in Europe, are
• 30:12
  they and some of them are tiny freaking countries. So they could have like
• 30:18
  a nationals championship literally an hour away from another nationals championship back to back.
• 30:23
  Like this could definitely be away for internationals to flood Worlds UM, and I'm
• 30:30
  taking that as a positive. There are a lot of players in Europe in
• 30:36
  Worlds UM, but yeah, like they could potentially like have way more international
• 30:41
  players at Worlds if they all um super hustle and get their crap together and
• 30:48
  get submit submitted down. So this was part of the argument with FFG is
• 30:52
  that many countries in Europe are very close proximity versus the vaults that were showing
• 30:59
  up in America. I know that there's a big argument that was basically posted
• 31:03
  with our vault master decks in regards to oh, anyone can drive a little
• 31:07
  distance in order to get to these vaults. That's just, frankly not the
• 31:10
  case. Zianoia stated fifty billion, there's a lot less countries there in Europe
• 31:15
  than that. There are a number, but it's interesting that this article is
• 31:22
  basically leaving it to the community to go ahead and set up the events,
• 31:27
  versus going ahead and saying this is where it's going to be. So I
• 31:30
  mean, we do have a contingent sprising. That's what they were trying to
• 31:33
  do with Vault Tours originally. Well that is what they are trying to do
• 31:37
  with Vault Tours, but it also is still a limiting factor. I mean,
• 31:41
  frankly, as I'm looking around our world, there is a large group
• 31:45
  that's in Vietnam, There's a large troup that's in Italy. That's a large
• 31:48
  group in France and Germany. I mean, we can go ahead and talk
• 31:52
  about there's a large group that's coming instually from South America that's over in the
• 31:57
  Brazil area. Australian Championship. All those places can have their championship now,
• 32:05
  like they actually, I mean, the the cost, the five hundred dollars
• 32:09
  kit, I think is the biggest sort of hurdle when you're talking about like
• 32:14
  we may only get a thirty two player event, so well, like like
• 32:20
  that's like people buying potentially tickets to World though like I think several people could
• 32:27
  afford to like FOURK over five hundred dollars for the chance to go to worlds.
• 32:30
  Like, if that was an option for the United States, there would
• 32:34
  be a bunch more national championships, Like cheap you would buy a national championship
• 32:39
  today if this was an option to have one up there in Milwaukee. Oh
• 32:43
  hell well yes, and actually and that's what there's just so there are plenty.
• 32:50
  So five hundred dollars is a big ask when you go to a store
• 32:53
  that has not successfully marketed key Forge much in a while, Like, that's
• 33:00
  that's a big as there are enough players, I think who will talk to
• 33:06
  their store and be like, hey, like I will cover the cost yep
• 33:10
  to make sure you don't lose money, right, Like I will pay for
• 33:13
  the kit and then we will repay me or whatever. Like I like key
• 33:17
  Forge sadly has lived on that for a long time and looks like it's likely
• 33:21
  going to live on that again. Here, five hundred dollars is not a
• 33:25
  small ask. Yeah, it's a limiting factor for some people. Yeah,
• 33:30
  I think thirty two players seats is not a hard thing to find. Like
• 33:38
  being able to fit down thirty two players is pretty easy. That's just like
• 33:43
  four big card tables, right, like, so I'm actually appreciative of this,
• 33:47
  knowing what the restrictions were for vaults and seeing like hearing and seeing some
• 33:52
  of that this is this is doable. So I appreciate that versus saying,
• 33:57
  oh, you must have a large amount capacity that frankly you're not going to
• 34:00
  fill up. So I know it seems very very small. But sixteen people
• 34:05
  to show too. I think the areas that want to run it pretty much
• 34:09
  probably already know who they're sixteen are going to be right, Yeah, they're
• 34:14
  not going like I wonder if we have sixteen players, They go, we
• 34:16
  know who our sixteen players are base and whoever else shows up, it's great
• 34:22
  bonus. Fifty there are fifty countries in Europe. I think you're already googled
• 34:30
  countries in Europe. There are one hundred and ninety seven countries in the world
• 34:36
  close to two billion. Yeah, nine seven does consistent round though it does?
• 34:43
  Um yes, there's between well, yes, seven sovereign countries. I
• 34:52
  wiel away from the articles this is actually a really good thing for the internationals.
• 34:55
  It is a very very short crunch time. I get all that I
• 34:59
  get. They would have liked to have known sooner Um, but I do
• 35:02
  think if they get are motivated, I don't actually see the five hundred as
• 35:07
  nearly as big of a hurdle as Sheep does. Um, just because I
• 35:10
  know a lot of the players over there, and that is just something that
• 35:14
  they would be here. You go. Um, So I'm going to see
• 35:19
  at dollars divided by sixteen people is just over thirty one dollars a person,
• 35:27
  and two of those folks get a plane ride too. Worlds like that,
• 35:32
  I'm saying, good, yeah, yeah, I mean, like that's three
• 35:37
  thousand dollars worth potentially, or five hundred dollars divided by that group of people.
• 35:43
  Like it's it is a very very good opportunity burns nationally, you know.
• 35:47
  Co word, So I will go ahead. And I was saying,
• 35:52
  like, when you look at it from a stores point of view, their
• 35:58
  opportunity to make a bunch of money is not great, right unless the player
• 36:02
  base is big enough. I don't know how much people would pay to play
• 36:07
  in this event either. I mean, stores don't really make much money off
• 36:12
  of the events. I actually talked about the chat though, like if I
• 36:15
  was running this through my store, Um, the ticket price would be fifty
• 36:19
  bucks I know I could get that. I know I could get the thirty
• 36:22
  people at that amount. I don't know. We have seen for our Cohn
• 36:30
  in the past just being twenty bucks. I don't I don't think fifty is
• 36:35
  reasonable. Man, like our store championships with thirty Our primes back of the
• 36:39
  day were thirty five or forty, but most of those still championships. Is
• 36:44
  your prime sealed? Most of the sealed is what we had seen it at
• 36:47
  that price was not sealed. This isn't sealed years per person without it having
• 37:00
  any sealed product behind it. Fifty dollars plus a because yeah, getting them
• 37:07
  sure whatever, fifty dollars plus they have to give some amber shards to someone.
• 37:13
  Hmm. I don't know. I think, I don't know. Fifty
• 37:16
  dollars seems like a lot to me. Again, guys, think you're in
• 37:20
  the three My freaking pack of sodas cost ten dollars and it used to cost
• 37:22
  three. I have everything costs more money. I understand that, but Z
• 37:29
  I think that there are more people than you're aware of who are not in
• 37:32
  the same boat that we are, and we have to be aware of that
• 37:36
  we want to have access to I'm not saying I'm not saying free, but
• 37:43
  I do think that for bringing in individuals, that you're looking closer to that
• 37:49
  thirty price point than you are at a fifty price point. And I'm saying
• 37:52
  that that can't be a thing anymore, Like that is not where our game
• 37:55
  is. It's going to be fifty, it's going to be a hundred.
• 37:59
  Like this is a not this is a luxury thing. It's pretty able to
• 38:02
  do this hobby. It is a luxury thing. Traveling to volts I see
• 38:08
  as a luxury. But when a Vault is seventy five bucks national, I
• 38:14
  mean, I guess, like the if we're getting the fifteen hundred dollars travel
• 38:19
  vouchers at nationals, like and it is a considering a national thing, like
• 38:24
  so you're supposed to compare it to gen Con Like that's what you're comparing this,
• 38:28
  dude, it's well, now comparing it to a vault because of vault
• 38:32
  seventy five bucks. And I'm just thinking about the prizes that are available there,
• 38:37
  like you, well, you get way more for your Vault seventy five
• 38:39
  dollars and you're getting for your fifty bucks at this way more, way more
• 38:44
  potential prizes and decks. Now, well, it just depends on what your
• 38:49
  valuation of is a chance to win a world What I'm saying is there are
• 38:52
  very few ways to get to Worlds. That chance to go to Worlds.
• 38:55
  If that if you're a competitive player, that's what a National's event would entail.
• 38:59
  Like you're there for the competitive element of our game. Like they build
• 39:04
  that whole screen during KFC, is this is your path the Worlds, Regionals,
• 39:08
  Nationals, Worlds. Vaults just the extra that also has money. So
• 39:14
  the only reason you're going to Nationals is the World's invite. Now, I
• 39:16
  think that that that price tag for that opportunity is is the valuation out put
• 39:22
  there? That is very interesting sheet that you are talking about the prizes,
• 39:25
  because honestly, I think that there are more prizes here listed for your nationals
• 39:30
  are more prizes, but the cash values at the vaults are better correct,
• 39:37
  But it's just for you. It's basically just for your top four. If
• 39:40
  you don't make four's too bad for you. The stuff that's how vaults are
• 39:45
  too. Remember there are like stor championship level stuff like whatevers and not only
• 39:53
  I mean it's something well not only something yes, how many people already have
• 40:00
  a lot of this stuff? Most of them? Yeah, unfortunately most of
• 40:04
  us. The figures have kind of lost their luster. Yeah, could have
• 40:07
  got them in the game found and you can just go to go buy the
• 40:13
  games enter and by them. Um there, I might have all these prizes
• 40:17
  available except the keys. Actually, yeah, do you have the sleeves?
• 40:23
  What I have some? It depends what art sleeves they're doing. If they're
• 40:28
  doing the Vault Warrior art sleeves. I only have the one pack I bought,
• 40:30
  so I had them. Yeah, it looks like the greed. I
• 40:34
  mean, it looks like the sin greed that's on the sleeve. That's what
• 40:37
  it looks like to me. So they are using the twenty twenty Prime prizes.
• 40:42
  That's that's a twenty twenty Prime prize. Um. Local car might have
• 40:46
  some of those all right, yellow stunt I mean we all have blue ones,
• 40:51
  but these are yellow. So I have some yellow ones from somewhere I
• 40:53
  don't know, so store champ kits mate, So I'm gonna say those metal
• 41:01
  armor tokens it was something like that too. This is a very minor thing
• 41:08
  and it only applies to a very small amount, but I think, GIG,
• 41:13
  this is more a plea to you look over for your judge staff.
• 41:16
  Send one item around. When when I went to had and was a mac
• 41:21
  Warrior individual and as running, there was something for being able to give up
• 41:25
  your time and so looking the judges are the responsibility of the event organizers or
• 41:30
  GG has nothing to do with that. I hear you, but I'm telling
• 41:35
  you you could simply have sent some little trinkets around that said you're a judge
• 41:39
  for a national championship, or you like some thank them a pin, like
• 41:44
  a cook. It doesn't need to be anything large, but for a vault
• 41:46
  or for for the national championship, give them something small, give them something
• 41:52
  that's in there. It's not going to run you a ton of extra,
• 41:55
  but it's a nice way to say, hey, you actually have credentials and
• 42:00
  the ability to take your time and not necessarily play, but help out our
• 42:05
  community to get to a bigger game state. Thank you. So. I
• 42:08
  again, it's a minor, but I think those are the small things that
• 42:12
  we want to see from a company that frankly have little cost that across the
• 42:19
  long haul will improve people being willing to judge. I don't know if the
• 42:24
  ten's getting me to give up my time to judge. Judge promos are definitely
• 42:29
  a thing in a lot of it's something, I mean you need, you
• 42:31
  need to give them like a judge deck or something like that, with some
• 42:35
  start of special treatment or something. I'm just saying something. But right now
• 42:38
  there's absolutely nothing. And that's where that is. He's cheap, He'll work
• 42:44
  for a pin I'm saying. I'm saying that I would like to see something
• 42:50
  there because there there is a group of individuals who have worked a ton.
• 42:53
  I mean goodness, I think about the time that went into Keypords, A
• 42:57
  like Keypords Live would not have happened without all of our staff, including our
• 43:00
  judges, and so we have to recognize them. We have to recognize our
• 43:04
  streamers, and so that's something that can be put into a kit like this.
• 43:08
  Oh we don't have to recognize our streamers and our judges. We don't
• 43:12
  get recognized all I disagree. We get recognized where we people at the event
• 43:20
  will recognize you. So like I hear what you're saying. Yeah, but
• 43:30
  like that's not like there are so many issues going on that that's that's so,
• 43:38
  Yes, it is, as I said it was small. We need
• 43:43
  to pick our battles double elimination, Double elimination number one, and we have
• 43:52
  events, so thank you for that. Yes you wait, not ready to
• 43:59
  position. I just don't need petitions. Goodness, change that, no change
• 44:07
  all right. Anyways, we need to move on one part of the show.
• 44:09
  We're we could come up with a bribe, a bribe, maybe can
• 44:16
  get rid of double elimination. I could bribe them. I will help fund
• 44:21
  a bribe. Okay, I'll go fund me. That's how we get rid
• 44:24
  of it. To double elimination? What kind of boats does CTP like?
• 44:31
  It's not about a boat, but it's about a boat. No, it's
• 44:36
  it's always about a boat. Something about a boat. All right, into
• 44:40
  predictions. We're going to predict gen Con. Yes, gets your predictions,
• 44:46
  so we're gonna get them to you all before the actual event this time.
• 44:50
  And we're not going to go ahead and record next week because we're gonna be
• 44:52
  at gen We're not recording next week because gen Con is next week. Yeah.
• 45:00
  And and uh, well, Southerly, are you going to drink con?
• 45:04
  No? I can, Okay, I am also not going to gen
• 45:08
  Con. SO four six otherwise known as two thirds. You can uh,
• 45:15
  you could do a whole show on the AT and T Fiber IV six issue.
• 45:21
  Well, Southerly, what do you think? But uh, yeah no,
• 45:27
  maybe me and Southerly will do a Patreon episode has a spend resolved.
• 45:30
  I think people realize, like, that's what I have and just shut that
• 45:36
  ship down. You guys ever had the drink Liquid Death? No, it's
• 45:40
  my new favorite drink. Wait, wait, more than flaming hot mountain dew.
• 45:45
  More than flaming hot mountain dew, which, by the way, while
• 45:50
  you guys are at um liquid, I'm looking this up. This it's not
• 45:55
  it's not cockey, it's it's water, mountain water. Yea, so they
• 46:01
  have a wat, it's spark they have a water. I like the sparkling
• 46:05
  water. Liquid Death Murder your thirst. It's it's the most metal water on
• 46:10
  the market. I love it. It's great. It's just the right on
• 46:15
  coffee. Everything else is for the week. Anyways, we also need you
• 46:19
  guys at while you are at gen Con to get the gig staff fight out
• 46:22
  what their favorite flavor of mountain dew is. Well, you did not give
• 46:28
  me my idea, doesn't drink it and doesn't drink it. Oh Josh,
• 46:32
  do you think Hurley drinks a mountain dew? He's a coffee guy. Hes
• 46:38
  a coffee guy, but he drinks mountain dew. But I bet you I
• 46:42
  don't know why I think that he's an og mountain dew drinker. Like if
• 46:45
  he's drinking mountain dew, it's one can of like just regular plane, just
• 46:51
  mountain who not white out, not white out, no whit out. Anyways,
• 46:58
  moving on to predictions that time, I'm gonna let you kind of run
• 47:01
  this because you know what you're gonna be typing, all right, So we're
• 47:06
  gonna start with the ark On field percentages. We're just talking about what percentages
• 47:10
  of decks are going to hit the whole ark On field. We're talking about
• 47:15
  gen Cons, who the expected its ends to seventy two. I'm not actually
• 47:17
  like a number. Um, so just what percentage do you think is gonna
• 47:22
  come out as whoe? And then what percentage do you think will come out
• 47:24
  as MM? And then obviously the rest will be other Who wants to start
• 47:30
  us off? What percentage do you think will be woe at gen Con for
• 47:32
  ARCon? But I want to say what how much is d okay, question,
• 47:37
  but it's very woe is twenty eight percent? All right, twenty eight
• 47:43
  what about mm, sheep? I need a calculator because I don't think in
• 47:46
  percentages. I think in whole numbers. That's thirty five percent. M oh
• 47:52
  you said for mm mm is thirty five percent? All right, I've got
• 47:59
  the sheep. Who wants to go next? Wait, he didn't do other
• 48:02
  I got that everything. That's just the remainder twenty alright and zero zero d
• 48:08
  t at gen con. We're not asking, it's just other percent. Oh
• 48:12
  that's later, all right, all right, so twenty one for well yeah,
• 48:16
  well, um, I believe it is going to be twenty three percent.
• 48:22
  Mm oh that's not right. Um okay, who wants to go next?
• 48:29
  That's fifteen point one two woe decks. I'll go for are you problems
• 48:42
  finding southerly? He's down here? Yep, yeah, yes, And then
• 48:47
  I think, uh was gon gonna go down, So I'll go twenty seven
• 48:52
  percent mm oh, twenty seven twenty seven percent mm and then we have the
• 48:58
  rest uh to your going to be at forty one other dras? What do
• 49:02
  you think for woe? A full third? Thirty three percent? Thirty three
• 49:07
  P and MM. I think we're I think it's gonna go down. I
• 49:14
  think with the Coda winner and everybody wanting to play Woe, people are like,
• 49:19
  ah, I don't know about my MM. I think it's gonna go
• 49:21
  down to twenty five. Yes, nice, that's gonna that would be very
• 49:24
  different from anything we've seen in a long time. Um JR. Well,
• 49:31
  Woki Wookie was there with Woe. But I'm gonna go with fifteen people,
• 49:35
  so there's twenty percent for Woe. And I'm gonna also say that MM is
• 49:40
  going to be very very very close. It's just going to go ahead and
• 49:44
  eke it out. So I'm gonna say, let's see here, that is
• 49:49
  twenty four percent, So seventeen people will show up with MM, and then
• 49:54
  we're a world's collide and Coda left. I'm telling you, I saw it
• 50:00
  ton of CODA, and I think between Coda, yes, I think Coda
• 50:04
  Rush is definitely there. Webs glide. I do think that you're gonna see
• 50:07
  some DT. So I'm going forty five percent of the whole field is LOW
• 50:15
  and twenty five percent MM, and then then the remaining is the third You
• 50:20
  are bananas. I think it's too early. Point of this is to have
• 50:24
  fun, be right, coming from the guy who that's just because that's where
• 50:30
  my brain works. Okay, got it, But have fun? How to
• 50:36
  have fun? But you can't fault somebody else for having fun. All right,
• 50:39
  let's we're gonna stick with Arkahn and then we're gonna move on to the
• 50:43
  top eight because we still have that top eight structure after the initial structure before
• 50:49
  we get to that. We got a response in the chat from Josh.
• 50:52
  We got liquid death rules, leakers, my jam Og Pitch black Do and
• 50:57
  coffee right when I wake up? Though, nice nice o pitch pitch black,
• 51:02
  you monster? What does that new age crap he's talking about. I
• 51:06
  don't even know what that's not. It is green and that's all there is.
• 51:09
  They don't drink coffee and I drink Diamond Do and that's basically, um
• 51:14
  well, number one og Pitch Black came out when I was in high school.
• 51:17
  I think, like my maybe my freshman year. Okay, well some
• 51:22
  of us are a little bit older, all right, so not that much.
• 51:27
  You never heard us. Also gave up drinking out and do before we
• 51:31
  got out of high school. Because you realize what awful stuff. It is,
• 51:37
  okay, top eight of mark On now we're talking about like there's only
• 51:39
  eight, so like what decks are there? How many like how many wo
• 51:44
  decks? How many mm? How many other? I mean, gives the
• 51:47
  winning set for the eight? You're gonna go for that. I'm just saying,
• 51:52
  while we have Josh, Josh, get rid of double elimination, get
• 51:58
  rid of double elimination. Whatever you like to send to the job right now.
• 52:01
  Hey, hey, hey, whatever there and I'm not running this shit.
• 52:07
  If this is you go ahead and or what boat do you need?
• 52:15
  That's apparently what our guns Corner is offering up. What do we need for
• 52:19
  a go fund? Bribe them with a boat? Well, I mean there
• 52:24
  is a little that we can go ahead. And we really even need to
• 52:29
  know is how much is it going to cost our Kun's Corner to get rid
• 52:32
  of double eliminations? We just need to please raise money. You can slide
• 52:38
  it into my d MS later. That's all we didn't know, is that
• 52:50
  it You just We're gonna go ahead and throw the worst horrible way to run
• 52:52
  in events until people complain so much and then we'll have to be bribed in
• 52:57
  order to change it. So what do we say? Okay, so top
• 53:00
  yeah, top eight? How many wods? How many mm decks? And
• 53:05
  then how many other? And then what wins? Three mm daks? Five
• 53:09
  other? And what's that wins? Mm? Alright, wait Nova's going right
• 53:17
  yep, yeah mm that's not her, not her, She's on World's clide
• 53:22
  this time, shock is yeah jacket? Oh is it really? Yep?
• 53:29
  Oh that I'm going World's clide its specifically shock alright, specifically got out a
• 53:36
  top eight? Oh I did do ten? It's important. Three numbers are
• 53:43
  not our thing? Correct? All right? Who wants to go next?
• 53:47
  Two wodacks? That was my answer? Four mm dacks cold is gonna win
• 53:55
  it? Koldo Wow, well, yes he has to have faith. He's
• 54:00
  running Coda. Oh, that's right, he's running Coda. Sometimes I forget
• 54:07
  three wodex, four mm dex one other, and I am going you are
• 54:15
  really pushing this woe agenda. I'm gonna say worlds collide? What damn it?
• 54:22
  Specifically, she's not gonna go for three bodex elf is three three wodex
• 54:30
  and then only going at three mm though two other two other? What set
• 54:34
  wins? Codada? Coda Classic Jr all right, So I am at two
• 54:43
  Wodex, two, mm Dex four other and I'm gonna go ahead and throw
• 54:50
  down for our MM gets some MM love, all right? Is dress back
• 54:55
  with us? Yeah, I'm back. I'm back all right Now many Wodex
• 54:59
  makes top A two two? Mm uh, I think it's gonna be three.
• 55:09
  And what set wins it? All? I literally got back when you
• 55:20
  asked. I don't know if anybody else said that, but I think MM
• 55:23
  wins. Like I think there's still a ton of good MM out there,
• 55:27
  even though people are like, oh wow, what happened with MM? I
• 55:30
  think I think MM still is gonna win. So so far we have two
• 55:34
  MM wins wins it, two worlds Clyde both are talking about a very specific
• 55:38
  deck, and then two Coda. One of those is talking about a very
• 55:42
  specific deck and nobody is gonna go whoa. So no one said WHOA wins
• 55:46
  it. We're literally going ahead and picking a fourth of the decks all of
• 55:51
  us at the very least ye are saying two woe decks, but none of
• 55:55
  them will take it. I don't think woe makes top table yet, but
• 56:00
  I think this, my prediction, is probably going to be changing once retail
• 56:04
  hits like actual retail. Yeah, and then my numbers are gonna be very
• 56:07
  different. All right, Where are we at Alliance Alliance field? Same as
• 56:13
  before? What percentages woe? We actually they have a little article that we
• 56:17
  went over the whole thing. There was way more woe percentile wise an Alliance
• 56:21
  that we'd expected. We are mostly expecting to hit the same seventy two number
• 56:27
  here. It might be slightly less people. Still, I'm still confident that
• 56:34
  will actually sell out. But I actually don't think seventy two people will show
• 56:37
  up. I think there are people that have an Alliance ticket that just won't
• 56:40
  show up to this. They're putting people that I might know, people that
• 56:46
  have an Alliance to just aren't going to play there. There might be people
• 56:51
  on this podcast with the Whites ticket might not show up. That's been voted
• 56:54
  by multiple people. Yes, they all since I have, however, come
• 57:00
  they will sell seventy two tickets to this event. We'll see how the drazz
• 57:04
  Car experience is the night before. Yeah, this is a character. So
• 57:08
  what you really need to ask h Z is our question, if we go
• 57:13
  ahead and win first or second for Alliance, can we transfer that to someone
• 57:19
  else. We're gonna put it out right away. You're not winning first or
• 57:22
  second. I'm gonna put this in there. How many people of the seventy
• 57:25
  two show up? Will be our all? Right, Well, he's got
• 57:30
  sixty four. We're gonna have a prediction champion. We have enough things actually
• 57:36
  ranked it. I'll give y'all ranking system next time, so we know who
• 57:38
  won right now. How many people of the seven seventy two seats? How
• 57:45
  many people actually show up? Sixty seven? Sixty seven? Bob Barker and
• 57:50
  me. I think it's a nice fifty one olyp, No, you're so
• 57:57
  under I'm gonna just gonna be yeah, nice, I'll take sixty nine.
• 58:05
  Yeah, my friend in the audience, I know he just said nice right
• 58:08
  now because he just came. I'm got nice. So, uh, this
• 58:15
  is the day after our con, the day after double elimination nine nine.
• 58:28
  We are drinking, aren't We are like pequila like sheep? If we go,
• 58:37
  we won't win the production. Yeah everybody, now, well you got
• 58:44
  you guys have so much caffeine you can't sleep well. Five people with with
• 58:49
  the live stickers. Hey, you want to go to the Draft Corp experience.
• 58:52
  So you're gonna go ahead and push caffeine and drazz. You're gonna try
• 58:55
  and push booze on me and the other pieces. When I actually show up,
• 59:00
  you'll continue to feed me booze because you're like, you're actually loose and
• 59:02
  play better when you're going ahead and intoxicated. I see how it don't win.
• 59:08
  I think we should take Jeremy and Josh and well, actually there's another
• 59:12
  factory here, right, Like the eight people that make Top Cut ARCon if
• 59:20
  they would rather play Arkon have no reason to play in this. No,
• 59:22
  but they'll still play. And why see what you got so I can conceive
• 59:27
  too, Mike, Oh that's terrible. Yeah, Like like if I make
• 59:31
  Top Cut in ARCon, obviously I would rather play Arkon on whatever day Sunday,
• 59:39
  and I can't play in both. So so we had experience make top
• 59:46
  eight day one like the first day of Arkon. I I have a ticket
• 59:50
  for this. I would did not go to this. So so this is
• 59:53
  an X ray experience again where you both you make top eights and then you're
• 59:57
  basically choose what you for her to play, and at that point you already
• 1:00:00
  know which one, Like if you're already won your preference, right, like,
• 1:00:06
  yeah, but the end result is again if you make top eight in
• 1:00:07
  both then be able to play in both. I just don't get this.
• 1:00:12
  Which the Internationals have the opportunity to structure the event differently. That's why I
• 1:00:15
  think they will do that. Like I think the entire Alliance event will be
• 1:00:22
  done and then the entire ARCon event will be done so that they have all
• 1:00:27
  I would suggest it. All right, So now we are talking about the
• 1:00:32
  actual field of alliance. Uh so what percentage do we think we'll just do
• 1:00:38
  woe first? Like, what percentage of the field of alliance do we think
• 1:00:42
  is woe um going into alliance for gen cong Again, forty two is the
• 1:00:51
  number of life, So thank you sheep. I was claiming that one.
• 1:00:55
  Yeah, I kind of saw that coming a while. So what do you
• 1:00:58
  call it? I'm gonna go like twenty nine percent, You're going forty okay?
• 1:01:09
  Uh thirty eight three R thirty three JR. Yeah. Well so it's
• 1:01:23
  actually really interesting. I'm gonna go ahead in rock and roll on the bottom
• 1:01:28
  at twenty seven percent. Now, this is kind of little um, and
• 1:01:34
  I'm tuning that because that puts us at twenty people out of the seventy two.
• 1:01:39
  But again this is distorted view because I don't think everyone's going to show
• 1:01:44
  up for Alliance, So I'm really why we're doing percentages though. Yeah I
• 1:01:46
  bet Yeah, you're really messing with me, man. Yeah, all right,
• 1:01:52
  so we're talking about MM. I'll start us off. MM literally one
• 1:01:55
  of the only two big events we have for this. Um, I think
• 1:02:00
  we have people's time time of that. But why did it win? And
• 1:02:05
  who is there? Because MM is really good at Alliance, So I'm going
• 1:02:08
  to say we have like more than what I said for those I'm say,
• 1:02:15
  um, before I go on to my bidding, can you tell me who
• 1:02:17
  won at KFC? Yes, I can, Gay, Yeah, everybody knows
• 1:02:22
  Jason won both of them, which point we had him on the cast.
• 1:02:25
  So what's what are you get in at I'm trying to say, it's the
• 1:02:28
  same players, same like yeah, but like the remember like the they're top
• 1:02:34
  eight at h Philly there were I think four wodex in there and there were
• 1:02:38
  only two mm Dex in top eight. Both of them hit top table,
• 1:02:43
  Like that's not an accident. They were total of nineteen gas yes, yeah,
• 1:02:46
  but two of the top like top table was MM versus emen like,
• 1:02:51
  this is not a fluke. MM is really really good at alliance. I
• 1:02:54
  think MM though, is it's harder to build the alliance in MM because you
• 1:03:01
  really have to dig for it. Both has to have the really good cards
• 1:03:07
  and kind of hit the enhancement suits. I don't know. I think the
• 1:03:10
  token dynamic makes um low much harder to build for Alliance, which is why
• 1:03:15
  I put it down there. I think that's a lot of people don't want
• 1:03:20
  this one to build. I think that's where people are and you can spam
• 1:03:23
  outside. There are so many good fish houses printed right now. Yeah,
• 1:03:30
  but you have to token and then you have to find two other good houses.
• 1:03:34
  But then alliance because you it doesn't have to be the token in any
• 1:03:37
  of the pod you pick, so the token is kind of easy to pick
• 1:03:40
  the token and then you can find a deck with a solid pod to pull
• 1:03:46
  the token. Like, I think it's easier than we'll see. I think
• 1:03:51
  it's easier to do. I don't know if it's actually great. You don't
• 1:03:53
  know shit about Alliance, right, Well, we come to donation for the
• 1:04:01
  game. It's not key Forge, see I know things. Oh my god,
• 1:04:09
  all right, all right, M m who else percentage? I'm going
• 1:04:14
  for twenty, shooting way lower. Well, now you have to go for
• 1:04:18
  nineteen. Thanks a lot, come on twenty was my answer being chair twenty.
• 1:04:29
  I'm gonna go with uh thirty one. Is this the closest without going
• 1:04:41
  over competition? No, we already said last time, Bob, just or
• 1:04:45
  not. In effect, it doesn't matter, go over cheap, just straight
• 1:04:48
  closest, straight closest. Well, if I put like forty percent in the
• 1:04:54
  other one, um, that would be twenty two six two six. All
• 1:05:08
  right, y are thirty percent? Okay? I think we're actually pretty close
• 1:05:15
  with each other, but we'll see who ends up taking it. I think
• 1:05:17
  the lowest one is what the nineteen at MM and twenty at MM that seems
• 1:05:23
  to be the most. Yeah, I happened. I mean, after our
• 1:05:27
  talk, I'm really feeling my twenty seven is low for WOE, and I
• 1:05:30
  think that's going to be increased. I do think that is harder to have
• 1:05:32
  a MM build than it is for a WOE build. And I will say
• 1:05:35
  that, all right, Top eight Alliance, top Eta Alliance. Number of
• 1:05:40
  WO decks the top at Alliance it was four at Philly four taking a four
• 1:05:46
  sticking a four four set four for ELF. Since I my attorneys, I'm
• 1:05:56
  going down to two jare, I'm at three drass top three okay U m
• 1:06:04
  M four top eight two two do I three, I'm gonna go four.
• 1:06:17
  I hold a bunch of people say too, so sheep looking at my answers,
• 1:06:21
  I have three three x three and ELF is two. Okay, um,
• 1:06:30
  so that makes others two two oh drass. You and I didn't see
• 1:06:36
  it, but we're even man. Everyone thinks it's gonna be too all right
• 1:06:43
  cool like if you ala, we would have come up with different answers.
• 1:06:48
  No, I do think that. I do think. I think codes sounded
• 1:06:51
  like we're talking in binary zero one one. I don't think the top coda
• 1:06:59
  makes topic. But anyway you don't think you don't think code is gonna make
• 1:07:03
  topic. I think code has been hammered for alliance, so I can see
• 1:07:06
  that. I do think aowa is can be very strong. I think one
• 1:07:11
  of these I think my two others, if I had to like break it
• 1:07:14
  truly a probably be both of them would be away from Yeah, like that
• 1:07:17
  would be my array. I would say two o four mm to it away,
• 1:07:21
  and that is that BT's ever going to do anything. It's an alliance,
• 1:07:26
  which means it's not gonna do anything. Well, all right, winning
• 1:07:31
  set, he can chatter someone's dreams. And then I heard l a away.
• 1:07:42
  Oh oh, Whookie, what's Jason's plan? Amm, that's the one.
• 1:07:47
  Let's go amm JR. Well, I see, m M see.
• 1:07:55
  Jason already has his access point. I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and throw
• 1:07:58
  this up as what is down though, so he doesn't care. I understand
• 1:08:01
  it's still pride. I'm gonna go whoa. That is the first woe win
• 1:08:08
  prediction of our season. So very very cool. I gotta I gotta push,
• 1:08:14
  all right, So d next one is like we did last time.
• 1:08:16
  Uh, Wookie, I think one? Um, how many Dark Tidings ark
• 1:08:21
  On Decks will be in the seventy two players? I mean we're not gonna
• 1:08:27
  have seventy two players. We're saying, no, we won't be one.
• 1:08:33
  Yeah, he's gonna going to show up. Who has a ticket? So
• 1:08:38
  you're looking at one? Yeah. I think it's just the one I lose
• 1:08:41
  to, if not more, because they don't want to play double elimination.
• 1:08:45
  Good reason, all right, Two Wookie sticking with two. Uh cheap,
• 1:08:53
  We're gonna go negative one this time. You can't pause, then hold on
• 1:08:59
  your row. If the one person that doesn't show up was gonna play dark
• 1:09:02
  tidings, No, it doesn't count. Doesn't count, man, I was
• 1:09:05
  just asking, you got I got bird? Was zer last time? I'm
• 1:09:09
  gonna go with one this time three? Hope that nine year old shows back
• 1:09:14
  up? Come on, DT, show up. Did any of you get
• 1:09:18
  his name? Or was he just nine year old? Don't don't beat me.
• 1:09:23
  Well, I'm not gonna say a nine year old name on kid.
• 1:09:26
  That's fine. I was just asking, yes, we got his name?
• 1:09:29
  Okay, it's a good player, man. Since many, Yeah, that's
• 1:09:38
  the lie. I have one. That's the deck. I lose to just
• 1:09:40
  the one? Sheep? What am I saying? How zero? I've said
• 1:09:47
  zero, like seven times seven? That's a big number, sheep. I
• 1:09:54
  think anyone that's thinking of bringing DT is gonna wake up in the morning,
• 1:09:57
  go to the hotel bathroom, wash their face off, you know, place
• 1:10:00
  their hands on the sink, slowly raised their head to meet themselves in the
• 1:10:03
  eyes in the hotel mirror, and say, you know what, I want
• 1:10:05
  to have fun today? Zero raise their head southerly. What I saw is
• 1:10:14
  they raised their head, they quickly closed the drain, poured water, and
• 1:10:17
  and then just smashed their head in until they couldn't breathe. That's what wow.
• 1:10:24
  You know, Yeah, you guys are missing out on the people.
• 1:10:27
  For a year and a half, almost two years, thought AOA was the
• 1:10:30
  greatest that ever. It still brought AOA to everything because they thought it had
• 1:10:33
  a chance when it had zero. Oh, Alliance A people just smash today.
• 1:10:40
  We're not talking about Alliance. We're talking about it. There are still
• 1:10:43
  there are still people think Dark Tidings is this great set and that just hasn't
• 1:10:48
  been discovered yet. No, it's been found. We understand. It sucked.
• 1:10:54
  And then they sunk the boat because they're like, if we put less
• 1:10:56
  decks of this out there will be less disappointment, right See. Maybe they
• 1:10:59
  sunk the boat intentionally, I hear you, because they thought that uh,
• 1:11:02
  you know, having less decks out there would make it, you know,
• 1:11:06
  more valuable, which it did not. Well, they probably also couldn't generate
• 1:11:10
  more decks. So the thing about DT, I think DT is a phenomenal
• 1:11:15
  set for fun playability. I don't think it falls in the top tier competitive.
• 1:11:20
  I feel that the need to be able to pay chains with the Tide
• 1:11:27
  mechanic is too much. Definitely not here to talk about why d I understand,
• 1:11:31
  but for me that is. I think DT is an absolutely fun,
• 1:11:35
  fun, fun set to play, but I do not think that it is
• 1:11:40
  top tier sealed DT. Listen, listen, Um, Josh is gone.
• 1:11:47
  Okay, we don't need to kiss, Okay, we can just there's no
• 1:11:54
  The algorithm that made it killed itself. So like twenty eight furnaces in furnace,
• 1:12:01
  right, So let's the numbers first. At Philly, I think I'm
• 1:12:04
  pretty sure that they counted in furnaces in you are correctors and our condex so
• 1:12:11
  they added them all well, no matter what format they were playing. So
• 1:12:15
  there were thirty one in furnaces out of one hundred and eighteen decks. Gin
• 1:12:18
  Con will have around one hundred and forty four decks. Let's say, based
• 1:12:24
  on our predictions, there's one hundred and thirty decks gonna be played at jit
• 1:12:27
  Con. So out of one hundred and thirty, which is twelve more than
• 1:12:30
  Philly, how many in furnaces do we get? Well, they're all playing
• 1:12:32
  DT, so zero in furnaces are being added unless it's a Maverick legacy.
• 1:12:39
  Maverick we said there was going to be more woe in general. So yeah,
• 1:12:42
  this is good. Like does the number go up? Does he the
• 1:12:45
  same does go down? This is I think it's going to be a wild
• 1:12:46
  one, all right. So here here's what I think. I think a
• 1:12:48
  lot of people were expecting a lot of in furnaces, and so they change
• 1:12:55
  their deck situation to a situation was relatively resilient to in furnace. So now
• 1:13:03
  people are like, well, maybe in furnaces are good again, And so
• 1:13:09
  I never stopped being they're gonna use for furnaces and we're gonna go up to
• 1:13:12
  forty five. I'm twenty nine. Wait a second, we are. We
• 1:13:19
  do a fewer decks though, so that doesn't make there as it's one hundred
• 1:13:25
  and thirty verses hundred eighteen, what does xpo? We go right? Yeah,
• 1:13:28
  yeah, forty five. Who wants to speak? He's been allowed now
• 1:13:33
  he's been allowed. What you want? How many in furnaces? One hundred
• 1:13:36
  thirty decks? Thirty one where there were plus three, so thirty four thirty
• 1:13:45
  four? Right, I'm gonna say twenty five I think the amount of woe
• 1:13:49
  spikes up their lesson furnace in the field jr. Thirty five, I go
• 1:13:55
  over the sheep, Dang, I agree? What was gonna take out some
• 1:14:00
  of those in furms decks? What okay? Double elimination? They've got lots
• 1:14:06
  of feedback and hopefully they probably got a few more. Are you asking this
• 1:14:12
  question whether it's gonna be whether Nationals will be double Um? He's so angry
• 1:14:24
  a lot of this week. Are they going to have double elimination at gen
• 1:14:30
  Con? Yes? In the sand, Yes, yes, I put my
• 1:14:38
  own answer in there. Yes, Z says no. No no, we
• 1:14:43
  put no please please please, We love you God and you are a good,
• 1:14:48
  amazing guy. But no, we do not doing that. Don't do
• 1:14:54
  nothing, no unless unless gets an epiphan from an angel the night before and
• 1:15:01
  goes don't run double elimination. It is running. I hate to tell you.
• 1:15:06
  I believe that they're not idiots like they Why did you put for me?
• 1:15:16
  I'm putting yes, it will be double elimination. Google. I don't
• 1:15:21
  want it. I don't want it at all. But oh, I what
• 1:15:25
  do you think they're gonna do? I think for Nationals it will be double
• 1:15:30
  elimination, but potentially for the other vaults there might be a change. Oh
• 1:15:34
  it's double elimb. Sorry sorry, I want hope. But have you heard
• 1:15:44
  about this great, great format where there are no dead games and every game
• 1:15:51
  that is it survival, No dead games, just dead peace and uh it's
• 1:15:58
  it's double elimb for life. Baby, Yeah, it's here to stay.
• 1:16:01
  Oh yeah, drazz car knows what's up. I think they're gonna see the
• 1:16:09
  light in some time, in this amount of time, they are going to
• 1:16:14
  change their evil ways and all right, what's next? I believe in you?
• 1:16:26
  All right? Who is going to win? ARCA? Who's gonna win
• 1:16:29
  a light like the person? Yeah? Oh, Nova will win ar Con,
• 1:16:36
  Jason will win Alliance, I will Second's fine, Sheep? What do
• 1:16:45
  you think she will win? Our count is Jared Cumming? Uh yes,
• 1:17:00
  it's taken Alliance? Okay, um ar Con, I don't know. Gotta
• 1:17:11
  be it's gotta be so desperate. Did you say, walk? They are
• 1:17:17
  got you gotta vote? All right? I can go now. Thank you
• 1:17:21
  Sheep, so much love, I last time disappointed. I'll get you six?
• 1:17:30
  Is that what you set me up for, sheep? Just to fail
• 1:17:32
  out? Thank you? I was gonna say, JR. Is like at
• 1:17:35
  the end to try to you know, Jared's gonna lose round one, play
• 1:17:40
  ten rounds and actually make top eight and then win it all. Okay,
• 1:17:45
  that would be the comeback story of the year. It's going to get maximum
• 1:17:49
  walk time out of this event. All games will go to time, that
• 1:17:55
  is, it will go to times, will be all three games, and
• 1:18:00
  it's gonna be like four and a half hours to play three games, and
• 1:18:03
  we're all gonna be sitting there staring at him like, would you just win
• 1:18:08
  our loose already? All right? Well, can we can we add a
• 1:18:14
  question of average Ewok game playtime? No? No, okay, no,
• 1:18:19
  we can't track that. Well, how many minutes aren't around? Can we
• 1:18:25
  can we add a how many Ewok games go to time? That is that
• 1:18:29
  a possibility? How many Ewok games go to time? Can we track that?
• 1:18:32
  No? Okay, that is something we could track, but we're not
• 1:18:35
  going to alight draft uh ze oh oh wow, thanks Alliance Sydney this time.
• 1:18:56
  Uh wait, cheep, did you say Jason or Jared? Jared?
• 1:19:00
  I wrote the wrong word? Did look wrong? Totally sending this bad juju
• 1:19:09
  right back? So that is all about Sheep, who is going to go
• 1:19:12
  ahead and uh, you know this deck that he paid a little bit of
• 1:19:15
  four is going to come back and actually fire consistently one hundred percent of the
• 1:19:19
  time. It's it's gonna but Sheep and Alliance Sheep, Sheep. I'm gonna
• 1:19:30
  go for Lord of Winter or Alex, even though I had said woe Um,
• 1:19:35
  I have his build, but that is what I'm going for. I
• 1:19:39
  will double off on both your edgy I got aheadge Hell food wins ARCon.
• 1:19:45
  Don't let me down. Now I'm gonna say fraud his fraud things in arkon
• 1:19:51
  true oh too for Sheep, well, now he's definitely all right. Popular
• 1:20:00
  votes Jason and then split between Nova and Sheep for arc on Um, I
• 1:20:05
  just gotta beat Nova because I don't think I beat that very well. So
• 1:20:13
  somebody else you got to get that very well. Let's not really, that's
• 1:20:15
  okay. You'll just make it through, you know, eleven games, m
• 1:20:20
  top eight again, Yeah, round one, Perry Um, All right,
• 1:20:30
  all right, you're in here, but mute questions. What do you want?
• 1:20:36
  X ray? Oh, I just came on when we were voting on
• 1:20:42
  he walks going to time. Oh, you here, I'm kicking you out.
• 1:20:47
  Now, how many how many do you walk games? Going to time?
• 1:20:54
  He'll be playing? To assume he's playing nine games, I really want
• 1:20:58
  to time him out quarters three quarters of them all three quarters per I was
• 1:21:04
  gonna say fifty, but extra just you know what, Bow, I'm not
• 1:21:11
  gonna be there, so good luck on that one. Oh, I know
• 1:21:15
  where you live. I'm gonna say thirty three percent of his games? Have
• 1:21:18
  another game go to Time? That was wild? Oh you mean the game
• 1:21:27
  time to Time? So one of them that was the first time ever in
• 1:21:30
  and like a OPI event. So you mean one of the two games I
• 1:21:34
  went to time was the same person you went to time? Was he interesting?
• 1:21:39
  Oh? You had it? What was that fresh? Because that was
• 1:21:43
  game one, whereas mine was game number that was that was game period.
• 1:21:54
  Interesting? Like GG says you should do it in less games. Guy,
• 1:21:58
  Yeah, that is exactly what G said. Suck it or do it in
• 1:22:00
  less games. Got it? Just don't lose? I mean this is true,
• 1:22:05
  like, don't like double elimination. Don't lose. You'll never have to
• 1:22:10
  you'll never have to play. That's their feedback, that's their philosophy. Um,
• 1:22:15
  so can I say, since x Ray has jutted in here that how
• 1:22:18
  many x Ray sucks decks are going to be shown up in the field zero,
• 1:22:23
  zero, four or five in the world? Oh, there are more,
• 1:22:28
  there are No e Walk is slow decks, although I kind of think
• 1:22:31
  I should have bought a slow your opportunity. Did you give us more deck
• 1:22:39
  names? Yeah? I want more gimmick names if I actually no, no,
• 1:22:43
  no, I don't want that. I don't want anything from you until
• 1:22:46
  Double Elimination is gone. That's the only thing I want, because everyone will
• 1:22:50
  see that we got Vault Master and and so it's not anything else. Slow
• 1:23:00
  Walk I think, I think that format is here to say. Unfortunately,
• 1:23:06
  no, I am moving about it. He's devoted so sore you going to
• 1:23:14
  actually make top eights or x Ray is not going to gen Con? Oh
• 1:23:18
  no he's not. But because rat because he didn't get to the last minute
• 1:23:25
  to buy tickets and they were sold out. I mean you could still go
• 1:23:30
  for Alliance if you want it or not? Good? No, you had
• 1:23:42
  your shot, you blew it. Grated? Oh what is what is with
• 1:23:47
  drunk Walk? Not enough? Why what do you want? X Ray?
• 1:23:53
  So I found gen Con to be less valuable than bolts to go to.
• 1:23:57
  So that's why I chose enough to go. You know, you don't go
• 1:24:00
  because you couldn't buy a ticket. I don't know that. I've been offered
• 1:24:04
  several tickets to go. I just it's not worth not not ticket to go
• 1:24:09
  to gen Con, ticket to be an ARCon somebody offered you. Yes.
• 1:24:15
  Yeah, So this is also what I say. They're gonna be people not
• 1:24:19
  playing in ARCon because there are tickets out there being offered about. So I
• 1:24:27
  mean, what were people that just lose track of time in the event room
• 1:24:30
  to because they have a ticket for gen Con and then said I don't want
• 1:24:38
  to play it if it's double limb. There is at least one person who
• 1:24:41
  has said, yeah, I've seen it actually too. But yeah, I
• 1:24:44
  think Southern Le's onto something. Though. Someone's gonna go ahead and miss around.
• 1:24:47
  They're gonna go wander the hall and then all of a sudden they're gonna
• 1:24:50
  be called in and miss the round because they're just wandering around and they're four
• 1:24:54
  hour by without an acknowledgement of when they're going to be playing. As they're
• 1:24:58
  talking what you want, No, you will be playing actually, unde,
• 1:25:02
  I'll actually be on stream talking about it and then be called over be one
• 1:25:08
  of the only sixteen players that has to play in round one. He's going
• 1:25:12
  to lose that he is going to win all the way up until round nine,
• 1:25:23
  and then we'll see what happened. I'm gonna go ahead and put in
• 1:25:25
  my arc on and Alliance predictions as well. I want to show I have
• 1:25:31
  already his name. His name is written. Yeah, what he got?
• 1:25:36
  Want more? I want more pressure on sheet. So I'm gonna say,
• 1:25:40
  Sheep, you just want me to finish paying you for that deck, I
• 1:25:47
  will say Jason for Alliance. All Right, That's not really like shocking news
• 1:25:53
  here, man, I'm disappointed, but I want this version of JR.
• 1:25:59
  Every week you watch Sheeps to know if you don't pay for that deck,
• 1:26:01
  he's gonna bust I can bust your knees going to Dallas and there's just gonna
• 1:26:06
  be a bunch of guys with baseball clubs wait ball taking money from the swear
• 1:26:14
  jar. If if anything ever made me realize Dan has never watched sports a
• 1:26:20
  day in his life, it's the fact that he just called it baseball clubs.
• 1:26:26
  This is when you're not using them to hit the ball. They are
• 1:26:29
  not bats when you're hitting me with them. They're clubbed. Oh crickets clubs.
• 1:26:33
  I don't think that's how that goes, but anyway I goes. Now
• 1:26:39
  I've made the rule. So our swear jar is what's helping to fund the
• 1:26:43
  boats. That's what I'm hearing. Yep, the swear jar is funding the
• 1:26:45
  boat. Thank you. Some goods coming out of this. Is the only
• 1:26:49
  one who pays into it. CTP. We are offering you a boat to
• 1:26:54
  get rid of doublehead is Yeah, we all know, we all do this.
• 1:27:00
  Listen home. We all know who wears the pants in that family.
• 1:27:02
  And I believe you're not a moron, Josh. You can get this done.
• 1:27:06
  Oh we're stepping it up. I believe all our hopes lie on you.
• 1:27:15
  Unfortunately, Josh, I'm pretty sure that the pants are owned by CTP
• 1:27:18
  and you don't control it. So pants with them anything not? So what
• 1:27:28
  I'm then, miraculously you have a new head of OLP. So what I'm
• 1:27:32
  pants? But what about the boat? What we're really learning here is z
• 1:27:35
  doesn't like Jeremy because he's trying to get Josh fired. So Jeremy has to
• 1:27:41
  go back to running OLP. I like lions just fun. That's not what
• 1:27:46
  I'm hearing. I'm reading between the lions here. All I'm saying, have
• 1:27:53
  you ever seen any of their faces? Whenever you start mentioning it, they
• 1:27:57
  all hate it too. Yeah. I don't mean you can't get it changed.
• 1:28:00
  Yeah, it's just really for them because they have to sit there throughout
• 1:28:04
  the full day, Like it's not they also have nine or ten rounds of
• 1:28:09
  boredom. So I do wonder if they're approaching this in the wrong way in
• 1:28:16
  terms of getting the shifted right, Like I don't think some people are complaining
• 1:28:26
  is going to sway CTV. I don't really know this, but this is
• 1:28:30
  my guestament, right. Like I, he's a very forward looking, like
• 1:28:34
  visionary guy. He's got this vision for the future, and his vision is
• 1:28:38
  no dead games, right, and so telling him that thing's not good,
• 1:28:43
  he's probably not gonna listen. But if instead you say, hey, we
• 1:28:45
  have an even better way to do that thing that you want to do,
• 1:28:49
  players are gonna love it. That might be an argument he listens to.
• 1:28:54
  Only if there's a place where that was presented as an option somewhere like maybe
• 1:28:57
  on a Facebook somewhere. Yeah, I heard, I heard there was a
• 1:29:00
  Facebook post about this. Yes, is there a petition? I don't recall
• 1:29:05
  that Facebook actually having a way to deal with the dead game situation. Now
• 1:29:12
  I did. My way is double elimination. Still, it's just not a
• 1:29:15
  bracketed one. Nothing changes the number of games played. Yeah, there's there's
• 1:29:23
  no dead games. But like, what about dead players in the corner who
• 1:29:27
  have died from boredom? M Is that is that included in our statistic?
• 1:29:31
  I did? I did address that option in my being that this is why
• 1:29:40
  loses round one because he wants maximum KeyForge time. I do like my maximum
• 1:29:45
  KeyForge time. Please hit me up at your nearest national or volt tour.
• 1:29:51
  I like to win as few games as I have to and be able to
• 1:29:56
  enjoy everything else on day two. Thank you. All right, that's said
• 1:30:05
  for our predictions. Right, that's all the predictions. There's nothing left.
• 1:30:10
  Let's I'll have some something else to ask saying lest So, what I'm hearing
• 1:30:15
  is if Josh goes ahead and just ticks over to d okay, we can
• 1:30:18
  run it as Swiss and we move on with like the Okay tournaments. I
• 1:30:23
  don't know, man, I happened to read this article. Um, I
• 1:30:28
  don't know. Maybe if you guys, maybe you read it earlier today.
• 1:30:31
  I'm not sure play style must be used to run events and set up to
• 1:30:38
  charge one event key from each arkon an alliance tournaments. I don't know where
• 1:30:42
  I read that. I was somewhere that's in the Oh, that's right,
• 1:30:46
  the guidelines to nationals. Yeah, that's right. Okay, Yeah, I
• 1:30:51
  missed your point. It's definitely going to be happening at Jena. Yeah,
• 1:30:57
  you're using play style. Play Style is not going to be double elimination only.
• 1:31:00
  It is going to be a fleshed out tournament software built in three days.
• 1:31:11
  Yea. They were actively working on it while we were at I mean
• 1:31:15
  we did offer a Southerly Billy. I think that it could. I think
• 1:31:23
  that it can be fixed. I don't think that it will. He wants
• 1:31:26
  a World Master deck. I think you are right. I think they probably
• 1:31:29
  spent time improving the quality of life features instead of programming in the next tournament
• 1:31:36
  structure. I think what we really need to look at is when EWOK loses,
• 1:31:43
  what's the likelihood that he's going to be lost in the event hall at
• 1:31:45
  gen Con and forget to come back probability line. That's that's right away at
• 1:31:54
  ten o'clock. So all right, that's not what I'm I might try to
• 1:32:00
  pick up. Barcelona isn't even sixteen players? A minimum of seven rounds to
• 1:32:08
  finish. A tournament with sixteen players gen Con will not finish until round No.
• 1:32:13
  No, I'm just thinking Nationals double limb. It's actually just sixteen players.
• 1:32:18
  You need four rounds to get to top eight, and then you gotta
• 1:32:21
  play three more. Yep, I don't know. Seven rounds for a sixteen
• 1:32:30
  player tournament. That sounds excessive, I guess. I mean like otherwise you're
• 1:32:39
  playing Swiss minutes designed for this kind of game. Now you're you're gonna be
• 1:32:48
  told you are wrong. No one said that was wrong. I'm just not
• 1:32:53
  gonna say what it was designed for. It wasn't designed for keyboards or any
• 1:32:59
  other our game on the planets. You mean forty five minute rounds? All
• 1:33:03
  right, guys, that's us. It's over all right. What we came
• 1:33:12
  together and we talked to about things, so we do need to do the
• 1:33:15
  hopes and dreams, the expectations. I think we've hammered that home beat,
• 1:33:19
  that horse whatever, what are your hopes and dreams? The best thing they
• 1:33:29
  can come out of next week? Someone go dress? What are your hopes
• 1:33:35
  and dreams for next week? Um? My hopes and dreams are to do
• 1:33:43
  well in the tournament. Hang out with lots of key forge folks here,
• 1:33:47
  hang out with some KeyForge listeners, find some good bars and restaurants, and
• 1:33:55
  just have a great time playing key Forage and enjoying friends. Sheep, Yeah,
• 1:34:01
  it's gotta be ewalk Top Cuts, drazz Cord does not get annihilated.
• 1:34:08
  Um, we actually want to lose to a ten year old this time,
• 1:34:14
  you know, like and then yes, and and we actually get to go
• 1:34:20
  out and enjoy some stuff that isn't waiting to play key Forge, Wookie,
• 1:34:28
  and I don't want to. You don't want to know my hopes and dreams.
• 1:34:30
  They're a little twisted. M h. I hope. I hope e
• 1:34:33
  Walk finally Top Cuts, but I hope he loses round one and has to
• 1:34:40
  go all the way through. R Well, I'm not done, Oh shit,
• 1:34:48
  I want him to get all the way through Top Cut, make the
• 1:34:50
  final late and lose first round and just be miserable. Are I will take
• 1:35:01
  top eight? Wookie? So I will go in. Um for me,
• 1:35:05
  I here for yeah, for Nationals, you get something actually okay, Um
• 1:35:15
  for me. I want to be able to actually have time. UM.
• 1:35:17
  So I'm gonna go big and I'm gonna say I am hoping in the next
• 1:35:21
  week that Gigi here's all the comments, all the posts, all of the
• 1:35:27
  community and actually response and gets rid of double elimination. And that's a really,
• 1:35:31
  really, really big ass. I know they've dug in, they've stuck
• 1:35:34
  their head in the sand for this, but that is my hope, wish,
• 1:35:39
  dream, and I just think it's better for the game. So people
• 1:35:42
  aren't sitting around waiting. I'd much rather play my rounds back to back with
• 1:35:46
  one person sitting and then go enjoy the rest of the time. Number two,
• 1:35:50
  I want to be able to hang out with everyone, because that's what
• 1:35:53
  key Forge is. I enjoy playing the games, but I missed I dearly
• 1:35:57
  missed at Philly all the socialization that came from because I was playing way too
• 1:36:00
  many games into many long, long nights. So I want to go out.
• 1:36:04
  I want to have a drink with you. Please hit me up.
• 1:36:06
  Let's play some key Forge with smile, Let's talk about our decks. Let's
• 1:36:10
  talk about key Forge as a whole. And I want to see Cheap with
• 1:36:16
  his investment for money pay that he gets to actually go to worlds. So
• 1:36:20
  that is my my last hope buy trips the world. That's no good.
• 1:36:26
  Well, you you've you've bought one man, you've bought watles are about to
• 1:36:30
  Um, you're traveling abroad to get your somebody else has bought their trips the
• 1:36:33
  World, then I can buy my trip to world I just don't want to
• 1:36:36
  be the first elf. What what's your what's your hopes for gin come next
• 1:36:41
  week? As far as the community and we know you can't be there,
• 1:36:44
  Well, I hope that the product actually gets to the event. That's my
• 1:36:48
  first thing I'm hoping for. I'll be cool. Yeah, yeah, that
• 1:36:51
  would be nice. Um. The second thing I'm hoping for is I'm playing
• 1:36:55
  a numbers game here, so I'm hoping that the Lichtenstein Nationals get announced.
• 1:36:59
  I'll catch you guys there, okay, x Ray if you are you still
• 1:37:06
  here, I'm still here. I know you can't be there, But what
• 1:37:11
  are your hopes come out of gen Con next week? In nationals for the
• 1:37:13
  US? Did I get a ticket to gen Con. He doesn't want my
• 1:37:24
  hopes and dream And I've talked to the staff about this is not only a
• 1:37:30
  gen Con, but future event. There needs to be a prize wall and
• 1:37:33
  a reason for people to play on the side because it's it's dreadful once you
• 1:37:39
  get eliminated from the main event. So my hope and dream is a prize
• 1:37:45
  wall. Yeah, and that kind of goes with my hopes from my hope
• 1:37:48
  from last time when we talked about Philly was specifically that whatever we did for
• 1:37:53
  Friday with the sealed event was really really engaging, and whatever Second Amber was
• 1:38:00
  was meaningful and worth it to the player base because, no matter how you
• 1:38:03
  look at it, in double elimination, a large chunk of people after two
• 1:38:06
  games are done so that they spend lots of money to attend to these things.
• 1:38:14
  And I think both of those we are aware that they had some products
• 1:38:17
  shipment issues, so they kind of got to pass on Philly because we have
• 1:38:23
  no idea what the intent was of those two things, but they need to
• 1:38:27
  be way way better than what they were. When we personally on this cast
• 1:38:31
  hosted live, we busted our butts to make sure that up to one hundred
• 1:38:36
  and twenty five people could be actively engaged in keyboards the entire time and having
• 1:38:41
  a good time to do that. We ran more than pods during the downtime,
• 1:38:45
  like Friday night, we had a full event Saturday as people were losing
• 1:38:50
  from the main event. We had two full events back to back, and
• 1:38:55
  then we finished Sunday with a team event that people A lot of people still
• 1:38:59
  say it was their most fun event that they played in during that time.
• 1:39:02
  Like d t ARCon, the ARCon DT only turnout was that was the only
• 1:39:09
  one that did every one person signed up for Higher Graphs signed up. I
• 1:39:14
  walked over there and honoring as the to of the whole thing, I played
• 1:39:18
  a game with them and gave him his prize. Like I still honor he
• 1:39:21
  got some sweet tokens, he got some tokens the person to sign up to
• 1:39:25
  play DT. But like, I don't know how many games of keyboards were
• 1:39:29
  played over those three days, but lots of people were playing keyboards the entire
• 1:39:32
  time, and almost all of it was a meaningful to them, Like if
• 1:39:38
  they won pods, they got stuff from the prize wall, which expert kind
• 1:39:41
  of just mentioned. There's a lot of ways to engage our community at an
• 1:39:45
  event like this UM, and that needs to be looked at heavily UM because
• 1:39:50
  it costs money to go to these things. We spend a lot of our
• 1:39:53
  time and earned money for this. So like my hopes and dreams, is
• 1:39:57
  that gets drastically better and continues. And I guess, like it was already
• 1:40:03
  said by everyone else, really really root for JR. To make top cut.
• 1:40:09
  I also would like to see my boy Zach mctop cut. I think
• 1:40:12
  it's it's their time. They've been putting in the work. Well, Jared's
• 1:40:15
  probably gonna put them in more then Zach because like him, like me,
• 1:40:19
  he can't get it into TCO anyway. So those are my main things.
• 1:40:25
  I'm continuing what I wanted for Philly. All of the stuff around the main
• 1:40:30
  event needs to continue to grow, get better and engage everyone more. And
• 1:40:34
  JR and Noble you got this. So what I think is interesting is that
• 1:40:41
  we see the little trinkets that prize wall, the patches, the pins,
• 1:40:45
  whatever it is, those little things engage more individuals versus the top two,
• 1:40:51
  and that's got to be something that's looked at from Gigi. While the money
• 1:40:54
  is great, the short answer is it's this very very very small group.
• 1:40:58
  And if you want to piece more individuals, engage them in games and the
• 1:41:02
  items that they can walk away with. Yep, I still SI occasionally the
• 1:41:11
  key forts live pin. People liked that I did find my pin good.
• 1:41:17
  I think mine's still on my bag. All right, that's all of us
• 1:41:24
  have everybody? I think, Yeah, I was last. No cast next
• 1:41:28
  week and look forward to seeing a whole bunch of people at Jinka ye.
• 1:41:31
  Maybe me and do something since we're around. Maybe we'll bring X around too,
• 1:41:36
  since I can talk about the draw better can do something. We'll see.
• 1:41:43
  We'll see what happens that's gonna do for us tonight. We'll see y'all
• 1:41:50
  next week. No, not next week, two two weeks everyone, and
• 1:41:58
  hopefully you also will enjoy a pre release event. May the Forge be with
• 1:42:03
  you, and I look forward to seeing you at gen Con if you're gonna
• 1:42:05
  be there, and we don't forget to make your form saying double Limb sucks.
• 1:42:10
  We didn't trash talk ads B day at all and they needed it,
• 1:42:13
  and we missed our chance to trash talk f f G. We failed today,
• 1:42:16
  we did, We'll fail again in two weeks. Bye. Bye with
• 1:42:31
  every day a brand new chest, gotta swear a trauma. Best to out each other