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Joely Williams on Digital Detox and Her Book 'Put The Phone Down, We Have A Job To Do' · The All About Nothing: Podcast

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  wanted
• 4:26
  to
• 4:26
  do.
• 4:26
  Right.
• 4:26
  So
• 4:27
  I've
• 4:27
  always
• 4:27
  been
• 4:29
  huge
• 4:30
  on
• 4:31
  expression,
• 4:32
  even
• 4:32
  as
• 4:32
  a
• 4:33
  child.
• 4:33
  Right.
• 4:34
  I
• 4:34
  was
• 4:34
  always
• 4:35
  writing,
• 4:35
  journaling,
• 4:36
  drawing.
• 4:37
  And
• 4:37
  so
• 4:38
  that
• 4:38
  always
• 4:39
  drew
• 4:39
  me
• 4:40
  to
• 4:40
  wanting
• 4:41
  to
• 4:41
  sort
• 4:42
  of
• 4:42
  help
• 4:42
  people
• 4:43
  do
• 4:43
  the
• 4:43
  same
• 4:43
  thing.
• 4:44
  So,
• 4:44
  yeah,
• 4:45
  for
• 4:45
  me,
• 4:45
  it's
• 4:46
  always
• 4:46
  been
• 4:46
  about
• 4:47
  creating
• 4:47
  and
• 4:47
  writing.
• 4:48
  And
• 4:49
  writing
• 4:50
  for
• 4:50
  me
• 4:50
  is
• 4:50
  the
• 4:51
  root
• 4:51
  of
• 4:51
  everything
• 4:52
  that
• 4:52
  I
• 4:52
  do.
• 4:52
  I've
• 4:53
  always
• 4:53
  been
• 4:53
  drawn
• 4:54
  to
• 4:54
  it.
• 4:54
  And
• 4:55
  so
• 4:55
  I
• 4:55
  think
• 4:56
  these
• 4:56
  are
• 4:56
  things
• 4:57
  that
• 4:57
  are
• 4:57
  not
• 4:57
  separate
• 4:58
  from
• 4:58
  healing.
• 5:01
  It's
• 5:01
  the
• 5:01
  language
• 5:02
  that
• 5:03
  we
• 5:03
  use
• 5:03
  in
• 5:04
  writing
• 5:04
  and
• 5:04
  literature
• 5:05
  and
• 5:05
  things
• 5:05
  of
• 5:05
  that
• 5:05
  nature
• 5:06
  that
• 5:06
  help
• 5:07
  us
• 5:07
  to
• 5:08
  say
• 5:08
  what
• 5:08
  we
• 5:09
  feel
• 5:09
  inside
• 5:09
  and
• 5:10
  say
• 5:10
  it
• 5:10
  plainly.
• 5:12
  So
• 5:12
  when
• 5:12
  I
• 5:13
  couldn't
• 5:13
  explain
• 5:13
  my
• 5:14
  traumas
• 5:14
  and
• 5:15
  different
• 5:15
  aspects
• 5:16
  of
• 5:17
  life
• 5:17
  that
• 5:17
  I
• 5:18
  was
• 5:18
  going
• 5:18
  through,
• 5:19
  I
• 5:19
  wrote
• 5:19
  it.
• 5:20
  I
• 5:20
  wrote
• 5:20
  it
• 5:20
  out.
• 5:20
  And
• 5:21
  when
• 5:21
  I
• 5:22
  couldn't
• 5:22
  name
• 5:22
  depression
• 5:23
  or
• 5:23
  joy,
• 5:24
  I
• 5:24
  let
• 5:25
  my
• 5:25
  metaphors
• 5:26
  and
• 5:26
  different
• 5:27
  writing
• 5:28
  techniques
• 5:28
  speak
• 5:29
  for
• 5:29
  themselves.
• 5:30
  Poetry
• 5:30
  for
• 5:31
  me
• 5:31
  has
• 5:31
  always
• 5:31
  been
• 5:34
  my
• 5:34
  voice
• 5:34
  and
• 5:35
  it's
• 5:35
  always
• 5:35
  helped
• 5:36
  me
• 5:37
  make
• 5:37
  something
• 5:38
  meaningful
• 5:39
  out
• 5:39
  of
• 5:39
  the
• 5:39
  chaos
• 5:40
  that
• 5:40
  I've
• 5:40
  experienced
• 5:41
  in
• 5:41
  life.
• 5:42
  And
• 5:42
  so
• 5:42
  that's
• 5:43
  how
• 5:43
  my
• 5:44
  book
• 5:44
  started.
• 5:46
  Put
• 5:46
  the
• 5:47
  Phone
• 5:47
  Down.
• 5:47
  We
• 5:47
  have
• 5:47
  a
• 5:47
  job
• 5:48
  to
• 5:48
  do.
• 5:49
  It's
• 5:49
  structured
• 5:50
  like
• 5:50
  a
• 5:50
  workbook.
• 5:51
  So
• 5:51
  there's
• 5:52
  a
• 5:52
  lot
• 5:52
  of
• 5:52
  writing
• 5:52
  and
• 5:54
  those
• 5:55
  type
• 5:55
  of
• 5:55
  ideas
• 5:55
  in
• 5:56
  it.
• 5:56
  But
• 5:56
  it
• 5:57
  was
• 5:57
  born
• 5:57
  from
• 5:58
  sort
• 5:58
  of
• 5:59
  the
• 5:59
  same
• 5:59
  place
• 6:00
  that
• 6:00
  my
• 6:00
  poems
• 6:01
  come
• 6:02
  from
• 6:02
  and
• 6:02
  my
• 6:02
  writing
• 6:03
  comes
• 6:03
  from.
• 6:03
  And
• 6:04
  it's
• 6:04
  from
• 6:04
  feeling
• 6:05
  deep
• 6:05
  feelings
• 6:06
  and
• 6:07
  listening
• 6:08
  and
• 6:08
  needing
• 6:09
  a
• 6:09
  space
• 6:09
  to
• 6:10
  translate
• 6:11
  my
• 6:11
  pain
• 6:12
  into
• 6:12
  something
• 6:12
  that's
• 6:13
  useful
• 6:13
  and
• 6:13
  beautiful
• 6:14
  and
• 6:14
  to
• 6:14
  share
• 6:14
  with
• 6:15
  the
• 6:15
  world.
• 6:16
  So
• 6:16
  that's
• 6:17
  how
• 6:17
  I
• 6:17
  got
• 6:18
  here.
• 6:19
  Just
• 6:19
  going
• 6:19
  through
• 6:20
  life
• 6:20
  and
• 6:21
  realizing
• 6:21
  that
• 6:21
  people
• 6:22
  also
• 6:22
  need
• 6:23
  help.
• 6:23
  So
• 6:24
  that's
• 6:24
  how
• 6:24
  this
• 6:24
  book
• 6:24
  came
• 6:25
  to
• 6:25
  me.
• 6:25
  Now
• 6:26
  the
• 6:26
  name
• 6:26
  of
• 6:26
  the
• 6:26
  book,
• 6:27
  Put
• 6:27
  the
• 6:27
  Phone
• 6:27
  Down.
• 6:28
  We
• 6:28
  have
• 6:28
  a
• 6:28
  job
• 6:28
  to
• 6:28
  do.
• 6:29
  I
• 6:29
  think
• 6:29
  the
• 6:30
  only
• 6:30
  appropriate
• 6:31
  question
• 6:31
  for
• 6:31
  me
• 6:32
  to
• 6:32
  ask
• 6:32
  is
• 6:33
  how
• 6:33
  much
• 6:33
  do
• 6:33
  you
• 6:34
  on
• 6:34
  average,
• 6:35
  what
• 6:36
  is
• 6:36
  your
• 6:36
  screen
• 6:36
  time
• 6:36
  usage
• 6:37
  on
• 6:37
  average
• 6:38
  on
• 6:38
  your
• 6:38
  phone?
• 6:38
  That's
• 6:38
  a
• 6:38
  great
• 6:39
  question.
• 6:40
  So
• 6:41
  I
• 6:42
  rarely
• 6:42
  use
• 6:42
  my
• 6:43
  phone
• 6:43
  throughout
• 6:43
  the
• 6:43
  day.
• 6:43
  I
• 6:44
  don't
• 6:44
  have
• 6:44
  the
• 6:44
  exact
• 6:45
  percentage,
• 6:46
  but
• 6:46
  I
• 6:47
  do,
• 6:48
  I
• 6:48
  do
• 6:48
  mainly
• 6:49
  just
• 6:49
  have
• 6:49
  music
• 6:50
  playing
• 6:50
  on
• 6:50
  my
• 6:50
  phone,
• 6:51
  that's
• 6:51
  all.
• 6:52
  And
• 6:52
  on
• 6:53
  a
• 6:53
  daily
• 6:53
  basis
• 6:54
  I
• 6:54
  probably
• 6:54
  use
• 6:55
  it
• 6:55
  about,
• 6:56
  you
• 6:56
  know,
• 6:56
  probably
• 6:56
  like
• 6:57
  four
• 6:57
  hours
• 6:57
  a
• 6:58
  day,
• 6:58
  not
• 6:59
  too
• 6:59
  much.
• 7:00
  That's
• 7:00
  impressive.
• 7:01
  That's
• 7:01
  impressive.
• 7:02
  I,
• 7:03
  I
• 7:03
  receive
• 7:04
  I
• 7:04
  think
• 7:04
  so
• 7:05
  many
• 7:05
  notifications
• 7:06
  during
• 7:06
  the
• 7:06
  day
• 7:06
  that
• 7:08
  I,
• 7:09
  I
• 7:10
  mean
• 7:10
  I
• 7:10
  could
• 7:10
  tell
• 7:10
  you
• 7:10
  my
• 7:10
  screen
• 7:11
  time
• 7:11
  usage
• 7:11
  right
• 7:11
  now.
• 7:12
  I
• 7:12
  could,
• 7:12
  I
• 7:13
  could
• 7:13
  very
• 7:13
  easily
• 7:13
  pull
• 7:13
  that
• 7:14
  up
• 7:14
  because
• 7:16
  holy
• 7:16
  cow.
• 7:16
  And
• 7:17
  this
• 7:18
  is
• 7:18
  offensive
• 7:19
  even
• 7:19
  to
• 7:19
  me.
• 7:20
  But
• 7:22
  that
• 7:22
  is,
• 7:22
  I
• 7:23
  don't
• 7:23
  know
• 7:23
  if
• 7:23
  you
• 7:23
  can
• 7:23
  see
• 7:23
  it.
• 7:24
  Oh,
• 7:24
  I
• 7:24
  won't
• 7:24
  show
• 7:24
  on
• 7:24
  there.
• 7:25
  It's
• 7:25
  a
• 7:25
  little
• 7:26
  too
• 7:26
  bright.
• 7:26
  Yes.
• 7:26
  Oh,
• 7:27
  hold
• 7:27
  on.
• 7:27
  Was
• 7:27
  that
• 7:28
  11,
• 7:28
  is
• 7:28
  that
• 7:28
  11
• 7:29
  hours?
• 7:29
  11
• 7:29
  hours
• 7:30
  and
• 7:30
  54
• 7:31
  minutes.
• 7:31
  That
• 7:31
  sounds
• 7:32
  about
• 7:32
  right.
• 7:32
  Honestly,
• 7:33
  I'm
• 7:34
  probably
• 7:34
  the
• 7:35
  exact
• 7:35
  same
• 7:35
  way.
• 7:35
  My
• 7:36
  phone
• 7:36
  is
• 7:36
  going
• 7:36
  off
• 7:36
  all
• 7:37
  the
• 7:37
  time.
• 7:37
  I
• 7:37
  read
• 7:38
  the
• 7:38
  news
• 7:38
  immediately
• 7:39
  as
• 7:39
  it
• 7:39
  comes
• 7:39
  out.
• 7:42
  So
• 7:43
  having
• 7:45
  very
• 7:46
  not
• 7:46
  yet
• 7:47
  adolescent
• 7:48
  children,
• 7:49
  I
• 7:49
  have,
• 7:49
  I
• 7:49
  have
• 7:50
  10
• 7:50
  year
• 7:50
  old
• 7:50
  twins
• 7:52
  that
• 7:52
  when
• 7:52
  they
• 7:53
  go
• 7:53
  down
• 7:53
  is
• 7:54
  when
• 7:54
  I
• 7:54
  go
• 7:54
  down.
• 7:55
  So
• 7:55
  generally
• 7:56
  probably
• 7:56
  try
• 7:57
  around
• 7:57
  9:30,
• 7:58
  10:00
• 7:58
  clock.
• 7:59
  If.
• 8:00
  If
• 8:00
  I'm
• 8:00
  lucky.
• 8:02
  So
• 8:02
  I
• 8:03
  am.
• 8:03
  I
• 8:04
  am
• 8:04
  actually
• 8:04
  a
• 8:04
  little
• 8:05
  appalled.
• 8:05
  Today
• 8:05
  may
• 8:05
  be
• 8:06
  a
• 8:06
  little
• 8:06
  off.
• 8:06
  Today,
• 8:07
  the
• 8:07
  day
• 8:07
  we're
• 8:08
  recording
• 8:08
  this
• 8:09
  is
• 8:09
  Wednesday,
• 8:09
  May
• 8:10
  28,
• 8:11
  and
• 8:12
  today
• 8:12
  is
• 8:12
  different.
• 8:13
  Likely
• 8:13
  by
• 8:14
  now
• 8:14
  I
• 8:14
  probably
• 8:14
  would
• 8:15
  not
• 8:15
  have
• 8:15
  used
• 8:15
  that
• 8:16
  much
• 8:16
  time,
• 8:16
  but
• 8:17
  because
• 8:17
  the
• 8:18
  Best
• 8:18
  of
• 8:18
  Columbia
• 8:18
  opened
• 8:19
  up,
• 8:19
  I
• 8:19
  had
• 8:19
  web
• 8:20
  pages
• 8:20
  to
• 8:20
  update,
• 8:21
  I
• 8:21
  had
• 8:21
  to
• 8:21
  set
• 8:21
  schedules
• 8:22
  for
• 8:23
  these
• 8:24
  social
• 8:24
  media
• 8:25
  posts
• 8:25
  and
• 8:25
  things
• 8:26
  like
• 8:26
  that.
• 8:26
  So
• 8:27
  I
• 8:27
  started
• 8:28
  doing
• 8:28
  that
• 8:28
  very
• 8:28
  early
• 8:29
  this
• 8:29
  morning,
• 8:30
  which,
• 8:30
  you
• 8:30
  know,
• 8:31
  obviously
• 8:33
  has
• 8:33
  risen
• 8:34
  on
• 8:34
  the
• 8:35
  bell
• 8:35
  curve
• 8:35
  of
• 8:35
  my
• 8:36
  screen
• 8:36
  time
• 8:37
  usage.
• 8:37
  Even
• 8:38
  though
• 8:38
  that's
• 8:39
  the
• 8:39
  title
• 8:39
  of
• 8:39
  my
• 8:39
  book.
• 8:40
  I've
• 8:40
  had
• 8:41
  to
• 8:41
  use
• 8:41
  my
• 8:41
  phone,
• 8:42
  like,
• 8:42
  you're
• 8:42
  saying
• 8:42
  like
• 8:43
  a
• 8:43
  lot
• 8:43
  during
• 8:44
  the
• 8:44
  whole
• 8:45
  making
• 8:45
  of
• 8:45
  it,
• 8:46
  doing
• 8:46
  all
• 8:46
  of
• 8:46
  this
• 8:47
  promo
• 8:47
  work.
• 8:47
  It's
• 8:48
  crazy,
• 8:48
  but
• 8:49
  I'm
• 8:50
  still
• 8:50
  trying.
• 8:51
  It's
• 8:51
  still
• 8:52
  a
• 8:52
  work.
• 8:52
  Well,
• 8:53
  okay,
• 8:54
  let
• 8:54
  me
• 8:54
  ask
• 8:55
  you
• 8:55
  this.
• 8:56
  As
• 8:56
  far
• 8:56
  as
• 8:56
  the
• 8:56
  promo
• 8:57
  work
• 8:57
  for
• 8:57
  the
• 8:57
  book,
• 8:58
  this
• 8:58
  is
• 8:58
  your
• 8:58
  first
• 8:58
  book,
• 8:59
  but
• 8:59
  you
• 8:59
  have
• 9:00
  had
• 9:00
  other.
• 9:01
  You
• 9:01
  have
• 9:01
  authored
• 9:02
  other
• 9:02
  projects.
• 9:03
  And
• 9:04
  I
• 9:04
  have
• 9:05
  here
• 9:06
  the
• 9:06
  Scales
• 9:06
  of
• 9:07
  Dust
• 9:07
  Festival
• 9:08
  for
• 9:08
  poetry,
• 9:09
  Coffee
• 9:10
  Runs
• 9:10
  Through
• 9:10
  My
• 9:10
  Lineage,
• 9:11
  Northern
• 9:11
  New
• 9:11
  England
• 9:12
  Review,
• 9:13
  Poetry
• 9:14
  in
• 9:14
  Mag
• 9:15
  Cloud
• 9:15
  and
• 9:16
  Liminal
• 9:17
  Woman,
• 9:17
  A
• 9:18
  Drink
• 9:18
  from
• 9:18
  the
• 9:18
  Wellspring.
• 9:19
  So
• 9:21
  this
• 9:21
  isn't
• 9:21
  your
• 9:22
  first
• 9:22
  piece,
• 9:22
  but
• 9:23
  as
• 9:23
  far
• 9:23
  as,
• 9:24
  like,
• 9:24
  the
• 9:24
  book,
• 9:24
  what
• 9:24
  sort
• 9:24
  of
• 9:25
  promotional
• 9:25
  stuff
• 9:26
  have
• 9:26
  you
• 9:26
  done
• 9:26
  to
• 9:27
  try
• 9:27
  and
• 9:28
  get
• 9:28
  it
• 9:28
  out
• 9:29
  there
• 9:29
  in
• 9:29
  front
• 9:29
  of
• 9:30
  people?
• 9:30
  Honestly,
• 9:31
  I
• 9:32
  am
• 9:32
  not
• 9:33
  trying
• 9:33
  to
• 9:33
  do
• 9:33
  much.
• 9:34
  I'm
• 9:34
  just
• 9:34
  trying
• 9:35
  to
• 9:35
  post
• 9:35
  as
• 9:35
  much
• 9:36
  as
• 9:36
  I
• 9:36
  can
• 9:37
  on
• 9:37
  social
• 9:37
  media
• 9:38
  and
• 9:39
  I'm
• 9:39
  just
• 9:39
  kind
• 9:40
  of
• 9:40
  going
• 9:40
  with
• 9:40
  the
• 9:41
  flow
• 9:41
  with
• 9:41
  it.
• 9:43
  I'm
• 9:44
  also
• 9:44
  trying
• 9:45
  to
• 9:45
  put
• 9:45
  more
• 9:46
  of
• 9:46
  my
• 9:46
  poetry
• 9:47
  out.
• 9:47
  So
• 9:47
  that's
• 9:48
  another
• 9:48
  outlet
• 9:49
  of
• 9:49
  getting
• 9:49
  people
• 9:50
  to
• 9:50
  know
• 9:51
  me
• 9:51
  and
• 9:51
  to
• 9:52
  know
• 9:52
  what
• 9:52
  I've
• 9:53
  created
• 9:53
  with
• 9:54
  this
• 9:54
  book.
• 9:54
  Yeah,
• 9:55
  absolutely.
• 9:56
  Well,
• 9:56
  then
• 9:57
  I'll
• 9:57
  ask
• 9:58
  my
• 9:58
  previous
• 9:58
  question
• 9:59
  again.
• 10:00
  How
• 10:00
  is
• 10:00
  it
• 10:00
  that
• 10:01
  you
• 10:01
  arrived
• 10:01
  in
• 10:01
  Columbia,
• 10:02
  South
• 10:02
  Carolina,
• 10:03
  Bronx,
• 10:04
  New
• 10:04
  York
• 10:04
  City
• 10:05
  is
• 10:05
  much
• 10:06
  different
• 10:06
  from
• 10:06
  Columbia.
• 10:07
  What
• 10:07
  was
• 10:07
  the
• 10:08
  journey
• 10:08
  that
• 10:08
  brought
• 10:08
  you
• 10:08
  here?
• 10:09
  So
• 10:09
  the
• 10:09
  journey
• 10:10
  that
• 10:10
  brought
• 10:10
  me
• 10:11
  here,
• 10:12
  it's
• 10:12
  definitely
• 10:12
  been
• 10:13
  a
• 10:13
  journey,
• 10:14
  not
• 10:14
  only
• 10:14
  geographically.
• 10:15
  I
• 10:16
  was
• 10:16
  born
• 10:16
  in
• 10:17
  the
• 10:17
  Bronx,
• 10:17
  and
• 10:18
  that's
• 10:18
  a
• 10:18
  place
• 10:18
  where
• 10:18
  it's
• 10:19
  always
• 10:19
  loud.
• 10:20
  People
• 10:20
  are
• 10:20
  always,
• 10:22
  you
• 10:22
  know,
• 10:23
  making
• 10:23
  noise.
• 10:23
  They're
• 10:24
  really
• 10:24
  blunt
• 10:25
  and
• 10:25
  they
• 10:26
  don't
• 10:26
  care.
• 10:26
  It's
• 10:27
  a
• 10:27
  place
• 10:27
  that,
• 10:28
  it's
• 10:28
  a,
• 10:29
  A
• 10:29
  place
• 10:29
  that's
• 10:29
  full
• 10:29
  of
• 10:30
  heart.
• 10:30
  And
• 10:31
  it's
• 10:31
  definitely
• 10:32
  great
• 10:32
  that,
• 10:33
  you
• 10:33
  know,
• 10:34
  you
• 10:34
  can
• 10:34
  get,
• 10:34
  you
• 10:35
  can
• 10:35
  walk
• 10:35
  outside
• 10:36
  and
• 10:36
  go
• 10:37
  get
• 10:37
  a
• 10:37
  nice
• 10:37
  deli
• 10:38
  plate
• 10:38
  at
• 10:38
  2
• 10:39
  in
• 10:39
  the
• 10:39
  morning.
• 10:40
  And
• 10:41
  Colombia
• 10:41
  has
• 10:42
  been
• 10:42
  a
• 10:42
  big
• 10:42
  adjustment
• 10:43
  for
• 10:43
  me.
• 10:46
  First
• 10:46
  of
• 10:46
  all,
• 10:46
  the
• 10:47
  transportation
• 10:48
  aspect,
• 10:49
  that
• 10:49
  was
• 10:49
  so
• 10:50
  new
• 10:50
  for
• 10:50
  me,
• 10:51
  not
• 10:51
  being
• 10:51
  able
• 10:51
  to
• 10:52
  just
• 10:52
  get
• 10:53
  on
• 10:53
  a
• 10:53
  train
• 10:53
  or
• 10:53
  a
• 10:53
  bus
• 10:54
  somewhere
• 10:54
  quickly,
• 10:55
  or
• 10:55
  just
• 10:56
  being
• 10:56
  able
• 10:56
  to
• 10:56
  walk
• 10:57
  somewhere
• 10:57
  quickly.
• 10:57
  Is
• 10:58
  really
• 10:58
  hard
• 10:58
  to
• 10:58
  adjust
• 10:59
  to.
• 11:00
  So
• 11:01
  that's
• 11:02
  definitely
• 11:02
  one
• 11:02
  of
• 11:02
  the
• 11:03
  things
• 11:03
  that
• 11:03
  it's
• 11:04
  been
• 11:04
  a
• 11:04
  change.
• 11:04
  And
• 11:05
  then
• 11:05
  also
• 11:06
  just
• 11:06
  racially
• 11:07
  and
• 11:07
  socially,
• 11:08
  it's
• 11:08
  been
• 11:09
  kind
• 11:09
  of
• 11:09
  hard
• 11:10
  to
• 11:10
  deal
• 11:10
  with
• 11:10
  because
• 11:11
  in
• 11:11
  the
• 11:11
  Bronx,
• 11:11
  you're
• 11:12
  always
• 11:12
  like,
• 11:12
  immersed
• 11:13
  in
• 11:13
  a
• 11:14
  deep,
• 11:14
  diverse
• 11:15
  cultural
• 11:15
  soup,
• 11:16
  you
• 11:16
  can
• 11:16
  say,
• 11:17
  and
• 11:17
  the
• 11:18
  languages
• 11:18
  that
• 11:19
  people
• 11:19
  speak,
• 11:20
  the
• 11:20
  different
• 11:20
  foods
• 11:21
  on
• 11:22
  every
• 11:22
  block,
• 11:22
  you
• 11:23
  just
• 11:23
  have
• 11:23
  so
• 11:24
  many
• 11:24
  different
• 11:24
  types
• 11:25
  of
• 11:25
  people
• 11:25
  coexisting.
• 11:27
  And
• 11:27
  sometimes
• 11:28
  it
• 11:28
  can
• 11:28
  be
• 11:28
  chaotic,
• 11:29
  but
• 11:29
  it's
• 11:29
  always
• 11:30
  really
• 11:30
  vibrant.
• 11:31
  And
• 11:31
  so
• 11:32
  in
• 11:32
  Colombia,
• 11:33
  it's
• 11:33
  just
• 11:33
  been
• 11:34
  really
• 11:34
  spread
• 11:35
  out,
• 11:35
  I
• 11:35
  guess
• 11:35
  you
• 11:35
  can
• 11:36
  say,
• 11:36
  like,
• 11:39
  there's
• 11:39
  like.
• 11:40
  I
• 11:40
  don't
• 11:40
  know
• 11:40
  if
• 11:40
  this
• 11:41
  is
• 11:41
  the
• 11:41
  right
• 11:41
  term
• 11:42
  to
• 11:42
  put
• 11:42
  it
• 11:42
  as,
• 11:43
  but
• 11:43
  it's
• 11:43
  like
• 11:43
  a
• 11:44
  racial
• 11:44
  segregation
• 11:46
  sort
• 11:46
  of
• 11:46
  like
• 11:47
  most
• 11:47
  events
• 11:48
  that
• 11:48
  I
• 11:48
  go
• 11:48
  to,
• 11:49
  I
• 11:50
  don't
• 11:50
  see
• 11:51
  many
• 11:51
  people
• 11:51
  like
• 11:52
  me
• 11:52
  and
• 11:52
  my
• 11:52
  family
• 11:53
  out
• 11:53
  there.
• 11:53
  And
• 11:53
  it's
• 11:54
  always
• 11:54
  like
• 11:54
  stares
• 11:55
  and
• 11:55
  little
• 11:56
  comments
• 11:56
  and
• 11:57
  it's
• 11:57
  like,
• 11:57
  oh,
• 11:58
  it's
• 11:58
  a
• 11:58
  little
• 11:58
  scary,
• 11:59
  but.
• 12:00
  And,
• 12:01
  you
• 12:02
  know,
• 12:02
  I
• 12:02
  just
• 12:02
  noticed
• 12:02
  how
• 12:03
  different
• 12:03
  systems,
• 12:04
  even
• 12:04
  in
• 12:04
  school
• 12:05
  or
• 12:05
  different
• 12:06
  community
• 12:06
  spaces,
• 12:07
  they're
• 12:07
  still
• 12:08
  sort
• 12:08
  of
• 12:08
  catching
• 12:09
  up
• 12:09
  to
• 12:11
  the
• 12:11
  inclusion
• 12:12
  that
• 12:12
  is
• 12:12
  spoken
• 12:13
  of.
• 12:13
  But
• 12:14
  I
• 12:14
  don't
• 12:14
  really
• 12:15
  see
• 12:15
  it.
• 12:16
  And,
• 12:16
  you
• 12:17
  know,
• 12:17
  I
• 12:17
  do
• 12:17
  like
• 12:18
  Colombia,
• 12:18
  and
• 12:19
  it's
• 12:19
  sort
• 12:20
  of
• 12:20
  small
• 12:21
  power
• 12:21
  that
• 12:21
  it
• 12:22
  has.
• 12:24
  It's
• 12:24
  somewhere
• 12:25
  that
• 12:25
  I
• 12:25
  can
• 12:25
  sense
• 12:26
  that
• 12:26
  people
• 12:26
  want
• 12:27
  things
• 12:27
  to
• 12:28
  change.
• 12:28
  And
• 12:29
  when
• 12:29
  there
• 12:29
  are
• 12:29
  events,
• 12:30
  there
• 12:30
  are
• 12:31
  people
• 12:31
  that
• 12:31
  show
• 12:31
  up
• 12:32
  for
• 12:32
  the
• 12:32
  communities,
• 12:33
  and
• 12:35
  there's
• 12:35
  a
• 12:35
  lot
• 12:35
  of
• 12:35
  space
• 12:36
  here
• 12:37
  to
• 12:38
  grow
• 12:38
  things.
• 12:39
  And
• 12:39
  I
• 12:39
  think
• 12:39
  that's
• 12:40
  really
• 12:40
  great
• 12:40
  about
• 12:40
  here.
• 12:42
  And
• 12:42
  also
• 12:43
  the
• 12:44
  parking
• 12:44
  here,
• 12:45
  I
• 12:45
  think
• 12:45
  is
• 12:46
  very,
• 12:46
  very
• 12:47
  positive.
• 12:49
  Is
• 12:49
  a
• 12:49
  definitely
• 12:50
  great
• 12:50
  change,
• 12:51
  huh?
• 12:51
  Don't
• 12:52
  get
• 12:52
  me
• 12:52
  started
• 12:52
  on
• 12:52
  parking.
• 12:52
  I
• 12:53
  heard
• 12:53
  you
• 12:53
  mention
• 12:53
  it
• 12:53
  before.
• 12:54
  Yeah,
• 12:57
  we
• 12:57
  did
• 12:57
  a
• 12:58
  whole
• 12:58
  episode
• 12:58
  on
• 12:58
  Columbia's
• 12:59
  parking.
• 13:01
  That
• 13:01
  was
• 13:01
  just
• 13:02
  a
• 13:02
  few
• 13:02
  episodes
• 13:02
  ago.
• 13:03
  But
• 13:03
  no,
• 13:04
  I
• 13:04
  completely
• 13:04
  agree.
• 13:05
  So
• 13:05
  I
• 13:05
  grew
• 13:05
  up
• 13:06
  in
• 13:06
  Atlanta,
• 13:06
  and
• 13:07
  Atlanta
• 13:07
  is.
• 13:08
  The
• 13:08
  diversity
• 13:09
  in
• 13:09
  Atlanta
• 13:09
  is
• 13:11
  done.
• 13:12
  When
• 13:12
  I
• 13:13
  was
• 13:13
  a
• 13:13
  child
• 13:13
  in
• 13:13
  Atlanta,
• 13:15
  I
• 13:16
  recognized
• 13:16
  a
• 13:17
  lot
• 13:17
  of
• 13:17
  diversity,
• 13:17
  but
• 13:17
  it
• 13:17
  was
• 13:17
  in
• 13:18
  very
• 13:18
  specific
• 13:18
  parts
• 13:19
  of
• 13:19
  Atlanta.
• 13:19
  We
• 13:19
  had
• 13:19
  Buford
• 13:20
  highway,
• 13:21
  which.
• 13:21
  Which
• 13:21
  was
• 13:22
  dubbed
• 13:23
  at
• 13:23
  one
• 13:23
  point
• 13:23
  International
• 13:23
  Boulevard.
• 13:24
  And
• 13:24
  you
• 13:25
  know,
• 13:25
  like,
• 13:25
  there
• 13:26
  were.
• 13:26
  There
• 13:26
  were
• 13:26
  a
• 13:27
  lot
• 13:27
  of
• 13:27
  different
• 13:27
  restaurants
• 13:28
  and
• 13:28
  markets
• 13:29
  and
• 13:29
  things
• 13:29
  like
• 13:29
  that.
• 13:30
  But
• 13:30
  it's
• 13:30
  not
• 13:31
  like
• 13:31
  the
• 13:31
  Bronx
• 13:31
  where
• 13:32
  you
• 13:32
  can
• 13:32
  go
• 13:32
  to
• 13:32
  a.
• 13:33
  A
• 13:33
  Deli
• 13:34
  at
• 13:34
  2
• 13:34
  o'
• 13:35
  clock
• 13:35
  in
• 13:35
  the
• 13:35
  morning.
• 13:35
  You
• 13:35
  know,
• 13:36
  here
• 13:36
  in
• 13:36
  Colombia,
• 13:37
  everything
• 13:37
  just.
• 13:38
  You
• 13:38
  know,
• 13:38
  there's
• 13:38
  a
• 13:38
  point
• 13:38
  at
• 13:39
  which
• 13:39
  almost
• 13:39
  everything
• 13:39
  shuts
• 13:40
  down.
• 13:40
  It's
• 13:40
  almost
• 13:40
  like
• 13:41
  there's
• 13:41
  some
• 13:41
  sort
• 13:42
  a
• 13:43
  time
• 13:44
  of
• 13:44
  11:30
• 13:45
  or
• 13:45
  midnight
• 13:46
  or
• 13:46
  whatever
• 13:46
  where
• 13:46
  everything
• 13:47
  just
• 13:47
  cuts
• 13:47
  off
• 13:47
  and
• 13:48
  that's
• 13:48
  it.
• 13:49
  We
• 13:49
  don't
• 13:50
  have
• 13:50
  a
• 13:50
  lot
• 13:50
  of
• 13:50
  businesses
• 13:51
  in
• 13:51
  Columbia
• 13:51
  that
• 13:51
  are
• 13:52
  open
• 13:53
  all
• 13:53
  night.
• 13:53
  Long,
• 13:55
  but
• 13:55
  it
• 13:55
  is,
• 13:56
  I
• 13:56
  do
• 13:57
  see
• 13:57
  hints,
• 13:57
  I
• 13:58
  do
• 13:58
  think
• 13:58
  that
• 13:59
  the
• 13:59
  city
• 13:59
  of
• 13:59
  Columbia
• 14:00
  does
• 14:00
  try
• 14:01
  to
• 14:02
  allow
• 14:02
  for
• 14:03
  there
• 14:03
  to
• 14:03
  be
• 14:03
  festivals
• 14:04
  and
• 14:05
  things
• 14:05
  like
• 14:05
  that,
• 14:05
  but
• 14:05
  it's
• 14:06
  not
• 14:06
  really,
• 14:07
  it's
• 14:08
  not,
• 14:09
  it
• 14:09
  doesn't
• 14:09
  give
• 14:09
  you
• 14:10
  the
• 14:10
  sense
• 14:10
  that
• 14:10
  it's
• 14:10
  a
• 14:11
  diverse
• 14:11
  community
• 14:11
  all
• 14:12
  the
• 14:12
  time.
• 14:12
  It's
• 14:12
  only,
• 14:12
  it
• 14:13
  feels
• 14:13
  diverse
• 14:13
  when
• 14:14
  we
• 14:14
  have,
• 14:15
  you
• 14:15
  know,
• 14:15
  June
• 14:15
  is
• 14:15
  Pride
• 14:16
  Month,
• 14:16
  so
• 14:16
  we'll
• 14:17
  have
• 14:17
  a
• 14:17
  Pride
• 14:17
  Festival.
• 14:18
  We
• 14:18
  have,
• 14:20
  we
• 14:20
  have,
• 14:21
  I'm
• 14:22
  trying
• 14:22
  to
• 14:22
  think
• 14:23
  other
• 14:23
  one.
• 14:23
  We
• 14:23
  have
• 14:23
  Korean
• 14:24
  festival,
• 14:24
  we
• 14:24
  have,
• 14:25
  we
• 14:25
  have
• 14:25
  Mexican
• 14:26
  or
• 14:26
  Spanish
• 14:26
  festival
• 14:27
  and
• 14:27
  things
• 14:27
  like
• 14:28
  that.
• 14:28
  So
• 14:28
  we
• 14:28
  do
• 14:28
  have
• 14:29
  some
• 14:30
  of
• 14:30
  those,
• 14:31
  but
• 14:31
  they
• 14:31
  seem
• 14:31
  specific
• 14:32
  to
• 14:33
  time
• 14:34
  periods
• 14:35
  or
• 14:36
  when,
• 14:36
  when
• 14:37
  there's
• 14:37
  a,
• 14:38
  when
• 14:38
  the
• 14:38
  city
• 14:39
  has
• 14:39
  a
• 14:39
  permit
• 14:40
  that's
• 14:40
  been
• 14:41
  available
• 14:41
  for
• 14:42
  it.
• 14:43
  So
• 14:43
  I,
• 14:43
  I
• 14:43
  agree.
• 14:44
  I,
• 14:44
  I,
• 14:44
  you
• 14:44
  know,
• 14:45
  I
• 14:45
  live
• 14:45
  in
• 14:45
  a
• 14:46
  neighborhood
• 14:46
  that
• 14:47
  I
• 14:47
  recognize
• 14:48
  as
• 14:48
  being
• 14:48
  very
• 14:49
  diverse.
• 14:49
  We're
• 14:50
  a,
• 14:50
  we're
• 14:50
  a
• 14:50
  lower,
• 14:50
  mid
• 14:51
  to
• 14:51
  middle,
• 14:51
  middle
• 14:52
  class
• 14:52
  neighborhood.
• 14:54
  I
• 14:54
  was
• 14:54
  telling
• 14:54
  you
• 14:54
  before
• 14:54
  we
• 14:55
  started
• 14:55
  recording,
• 14:55
  I
• 14:55
  have
• 14:56
  Dominican
• 14:56
  neighbors
• 14:57
  on
• 14:57
  my
• 14:57
  left.
• 14:58
  I
• 14:58
  have
• 14:59
  Vietnamese
• 14:59
  neighbors
• 15:00
  across
• 15:00
  the
• 15:00
  street.
• 15:01
  I
• 15:01
  have
• 15:01
  Chinese
• 15:02
  neighbors
• 15:02
  down
• 15:02
  the
• 15:02
  street.
• 15:02
  I
• 15:03
  have
• 15:03
  Pakistani
• 15:03
  neighbors
• 15:04
  down
• 15:04
  the
• 15:04
  street.
• 15:04
  I
• 15:04
  have
• 15:06
  Indian
• 15:07
  neighbors,
• 15:07
  you
• 15:07
  know,
• 15:08
  so
• 15:09
  when
• 15:09
  I
• 15:09
  walk
• 15:09
  through
• 15:09
  the
• 15:10
  neighborhood
• 15:10
  on
• 15:11
  just
• 15:11
  a
• 15:11
  daily
• 15:11
  walk,
• 15:12
  I
• 15:12
  smell
• 15:13
  all
• 15:13
  of
• 15:13
  the
• 15:13
  foods
• 15:14
  that
• 15:14
  people
• 15:14
  are
• 15:14
  cooking
• 15:15
  and
• 15:15
  it
• 15:15
  smells
• 15:15
  amazing.
• 15:16
  And
• 15:17
  that's
• 15:18
  the
• 15:18
  kind
• 15:18
  of
• 15:18
  environment
• 15:19
  that
• 15:19
  like,
• 15:19
  I
• 15:20
  want
• 15:20
  to
• 15:20
  raise
• 15:20
  my
• 15:20
  children
• 15:20
  in.
• 15:21
  That's
• 15:21
  the
• 15:21
  kind
• 15:21
  of
• 15:21
  environment
• 15:22
  I
• 15:22
  want,
• 15:22
  I
• 15:22
  want
• 15:23
  to
• 15:23
  live
• 15:23
  in.
• 15:23
  Because
• 15:25
  Bill
• 15:25
  and
• 15:25
  I
• 15:25
  talked
• 15:26
  about
• 15:26
  on
• 15:26
  the
• 15:26
  last
• 15:26
  episode.
• 15:27
  One
• 15:27
  of
• 15:27
  the
• 15:27
  things
• 15:27
  that
• 15:28
  the
• 15:28
  United
• 15:28
  States
• 15:28
  thrives
• 15:29
  on,
• 15:29
  in
• 15:30
  my
• 15:30
  opinion,
• 15:30
  is
• 15:32
  migration
• 15:32
  and
• 15:33
  immigrants
• 15:33
  and
• 15:34
  having
• 15:34
  that
• 15:34
  diversity.
• 15:35
  Because
• 15:35
  that's
• 15:36
  what
• 15:36
  keeps
• 15:36
  the
• 15:36
  United
• 15:36
  States
• 15:37
  young
• 15:37
  and
• 15:38
  vibrant
• 15:38
  and
• 15:40
  unlike
• 15:41
  what
• 15:41
  the
• 15:41
  current
• 15:41
  administration
• 15:42
  wants
• 15:42
  to
• 15:42
  do,
• 15:42
  in
• 15:42
  my
• 15:43
  opinion,
• 15:44
  which
• 15:44
  is,
• 15:45
  you
• 15:45
  know,
• 15:45
  whitewash
• 15:46
  everything,
• 15:47
  but
• 15:48
  okay.
• 15:48
  So
• 15:49
  to
• 15:50
  get
• 15:50
  back
• 15:50
  to
• 15:50
  your
• 15:50
  book,
• 15:52
  what
• 15:52
  is
• 15:52
  the
• 15:53
  meaning
• 15:53
  of
• 15:54
  Put
• 15:54
  the
• 15:54
  Phone
• 15:54
  Down?
• 15:55
  What
• 15:55
  is
• 15:55
  it
• 15:55
  that
• 15:55
  inspired
• 15:56
  the
• 15:56
  title.
• 15:56
  And
• 15:57
  the
• 15:57
  message
• 15:58
  Put
• 15:58
  the
• 15:58
  Phone
• 15:58
  down,
• 15:59
  we
• 16:00
  have
• 16:00
  a
• 16:00
  job
• 16:00
  to
• 16:00
  do?
• 16:03
  The
• 16:03
  book
• 16:03
  is
• 16:04
  about,
• 16:05
  it's
• 16:05
  sort
• 16:05
  of
• 16:05
  like
• 16:05
  a
• 16:05
  wake
• 16:06
  up
• 16:06
  call,
• 16:07
  I
• 16:07
  want
• 16:07
  to
• 16:07
  say
• 16:09
  not
• 16:09
  only
• 16:09
  for
• 16:09
  myself,
• 16:10
  but
• 16:12
  for
• 16:13
  the
• 16:13
  world.
• 16:13
  I
• 16:13
  want
• 16:14
  to
• 16:14
  be
• 16:14
  able
• 16:14
  to
• 16:15
  tap
• 16:15
  people
• 16:16
  on
• 16:16
  the
• 16:16
  shoulder
• 16:16
  and
• 16:17
  say,
• 16:17
  hey,
• 16:18
  the
• 16:18
  world
• 16:18
  is
• 16:18
  not
• 16:18
  going
• 16:19
  to
• 16:19
  fix
• 16:19
  itself
• 16:19
  and
• 16:20
  our
• 16:20
  government
• 16:21
  isn't
• 16:21
  going
• 16:22
  to
• 16:22
  do
• 16:22
  it
• 16:22
  for
• 16:22
  us
• 16:22
  either.
• 16:23
  So
• 16:23
  it
• 16:23
  comes
• 16:24
  from
• 16:24
  this
• 16:25
  idea
• 16:25
  where
• 16:27
  I
• 16:27
  was
• 16:27
  actually
• 16:28
  in
• 16:28
  the
• 16:29
  same
• 16:29
  boat
• 16:29
  as
• 16:29
  everyone
• 16:30
  else.
• 16:30
  I
• 16:31
  was
• 16:31
  constantly
• 16:31
  using
• 16:31
  my
• 16:32
  phone
• 16:32
  and
• 16:33
  constantly
• 16:34
  scrolling,
• 16:36
  comparing
• 16:36
  and
• 16:37
  disconnecting
• 16:38
  from
• 16:38
  real
• 16:39
  life.
• 16:39
  And
• 16:41
  while
• 16:41
  I
• 16:41
  was
• 16:41
  thinking
• 16:42
  that
• 16:42
  I
• 16:42
  was
• 16:42
  staying
• 16:43
  connected
• 16:44
  to
• 16:44
  my,
• 16:44
  my
• 16:45
  friends,
• 16:45
  my
• 16:45
  family,
• 16:46
  to
• 16:46
  the
• 16:46
  world,
• 16:47
  really,
• 16:47
  I
• 16:47
  was
• 16:47
  just
• 16:48
  always
• 16:49
  scrolling
• 16:49
  and
• 16:50
  scrolling.
• 16:50
  And
• 16:51
  just
• 16:51
  one
• 16:51
  day
• 16:52
  it
• 16:52
  hit
• 16:52
  me
• 16:52
  that
• 16:53
  we're
• 16:53
  not
• 16:53
  just
• 16:54
  wasting
• 16:54
  our
• 16:54
  time,
• 16:55
  but
• 16:55
  we're
• 16:55
  wasting
• 16:56
  our
• 16:56
  purpose.
• 16:57
  And
• 16:57
  that
• 16:58
  what,
• 16:59
  that's
• 16:59
  what
• 17:00
  the
• 17:00
  book
• 17:00
  for
• 17:00
  me
• 17:01
  is
• 17:01
  really
• 17:01
  about,
• 17:01
  is
• 17:02
  pulling
• 17:02
  us
• 17:02
  back
• 17:03
  together
• 17:03
  as
• 17:03
  a
• 17:04
  community
• 17:05
  and
• 17:05
  to
• 17:05
  our
• 17:05
  greater
• 17:06
  calling.
• 17:07
  It's
• 17:08
  a
• 17:08
  workbook
• 17:08
  and
• 17:09
  a
• 17:09
  reflective
• 17:10
  journal
• 17:10
  that
• 17:10
  I
• 17:11
  think
• 17:11
  will
• 17:11
  help
• 17:12
  people
• 17:12
  reconnect
• 17:12
  with
• 17:13
  themselves
• 17:13
  and
• 17:14
  the
• 17:14
  world
• 17:14
  around
• 17:15
  them
• 17:15
  without
• 17:15
  relying
• 17:16
  on
• 17:16
  screens
• 17:17
  so
• 17:17
  much.
• 17:18
  So
• 17:21
  the
• 17:21
  book
• 17:21
  has
• 17:22
  30
• 17:22
  full
• 17:22
  length,
• 17:23
  full
• 17:23
  length
• 17:24
  chapters
• 17:25
  and
• 17:26
  each
• 17:26
  centered
• 17:27
  around
• 17:27
  major
• 17:27
  themes
• 17:28
  of
• 17:28
  reconnection
• 17:29
  and
• 17:29
  healing.
• 17:30
  And
• 17:30
  these
• 17:31
  themes
• 17:32
  go
• 17:33
  from
• 17:33
  digital
• 17:34
  detoxing
• 17:36
  to
• 17:36
  having
• 17:37
  a
• 17:37
  presence
• 17:38
  and
• 17:38
  for
• 17:39
  yourself.
• 17:39
  It
• 17:40
  goes
• 17:40
  to
• 17:41
  family
• 17:42
  abandonment
• 17:42
  and
• 17:43
  cultural
• 17:43
  memory.
• 17:44
  Different
• 17:45
  topics
• 17:45
  of
• 17:45
  parenting.
• 17:48
  And
• 17:48
  a
• 17:48
  lot
• 17:49
  of
• 17:49
  it
• 17:49
  also
• 17:50
  talks
• 17:50
  about
• 17:51
  identity.
• 17:53
  So
• 17:53
  yeah,
• 17:54
  each
• 17:54
  chapter
• 17:55
  comes
• 17:55
  with
• 17:57
  10
• 17:57
  to
• 17:57
  12
• 17:58
  reflective
• 17:58
  questions
• 17:59
  and
• 18:00
  thoughtful
• 18:00
  prompts
• 18:01
  designed
• 18:01
  to
• 18:01
  help
• 18:02
  readers
• 18:02
  unpack
• 18:03
  their
• 18:03
  patterns,
• 18:04
  belief
• 18:04
  and
• 18:04
  experiences.
• 18:05
  And
• 18:05
  it
• 18:06
  also
• 18:06
  has
• 18:06
  a
• 18:07
  lot
• 18:07
  of
• 18:07
  different
• 18:07
  tasks
• 18:08
  that
• 18:08
  the
• 18:09
  readers
• 18:09
  can
• 18:10
  engage
• 18:10
  in.
• 18:11
  And
• 18:11
  it
• 18:11
  ranges
• 18:12
  from
• 18:12
  different
• 18:12
  artistic
• 18:13
  exercises
• 18:14
  to
• 18:14
  memory
• 18:15
  work,
• 18:16
  breathing
• 18:16
  practices,
• 18:17
  storytelling
• 18:18
  challenges,
• 18:19
  and
• 18:20
  different
• 18:21
  things
• 18:21
  that
• 18:21
  you
• 18:21
  can
• 18:21
  do
• 18:22
  in
• 18:22
  your
• 18:22
  community
• 18:23
  to
• 18:23
  not
• 18:23
  only
• 18:24
  put
• 18:24
  to
• 18:24
  action
• 18:25
  all
• 18:25
  of
• 18:25
  that's
• 18:26
  coming
• 18:26
  out
• 18:27
  as
• 18:27
  far
• 18:27
  as
• 18:27
  your
• 18:28
  trauma
• 18:28
  and
• 18:29
  the
• 18:29
  healing
• 18:29
  work
• 18:30
  that
• 18:30
  comes
• 18:30
  from
• 18:30
  it.
• 18:31
  And
• 18:31
  then
• 18:31
  it
• 18:32
  also
• 18:32
  has
• 18:34
  a
• 18:34
  lot
• 18:34
  of
• 18:34
  space
• 18:35
  for
• 18:35
  writing
• 18:36
  and
• 18:36
  journaling,
• 18:37
  brainstorming,
• 18:38
  drawing,
• 18:40
  planning.
• 18:41
  And
• 18:41
  each
• 18:42
  chapter
• 18:42
  is
• 18:42
  almost
• 18:43
  like
• 18:43
  a
• 18:43
  personal
• 18:44
  retreat
• 18:44
  that
• 18:44
  you
• 18:45
  can
• 18:45
  take
• 18:45
  time
• 18:46
  for
• 18:46
  yourself
• 18:47
  to
• 18:47
  learn
• 18:47
  about
• 18:48
  yourself
• 18:48
  and
• 18:49
  learn
• 18:49
  what
• 18:49
  you
• 18:49
  want
• 18:50
  to
• 18:50
  do
• 18:50
  with
• 18:51
  your
• 18:51
  time
• 18:51
  when
• 18:51
  you
• 18:52
  start
• 18:52
  to
• 18:52
  put
• 18:52
  the
• 18:53
  phone
• 18:53
  down.
• 18:53
  And
• 18:54
  that's
• 18:54
  the
• 18:54
  job,
• 18:55
  really,
• 18:55
  the
• 18:56
  job
• 18:56
  is
• 18:56
  your
• 18:57
  life.
• 18:57
  And
• 18:58
  how
• 18:58
  much
• 18:58
  time
• 18:58
  and
• 18:59
  work
• 18:59
  are
• 18:59
  you
• 18:59
  going
• 18:59
  to
• 19:00
  put
• 19:00
  into
• 19:00
  that
• 19:01
  to
• 19:01
  feel
• 19:02
  fulfilled
• 19:02
  at
• 19:03
  the
• 19:03
  end
• 19:03
  of
• 19:03
  the
• 19:03
  day
• 19:04
  or
• 19:04
  end
• 19:05
  of
• 19:05
  your
• 19:05
  life
• 19:05
  whenever
• 19:06
  that
• 19:06
  comes?
• 19:07
  Yeah,
• 19:07
  yeah,
• 19:08
  absolutely.
• 19:08
  So
• 19:10
  it's
• 19:10
  available
• 19:10
  on
• 19:11
  Amazon
• 19:12
  and
• 19:13
  just
• 19:13
  looking
• 19:14
  at
• 19:15
  some
• 19:15
  of
• 19:15
  the
• 19:15
  information
• 19:16
  is
• 19:17
  the
• 19:17
  print
• 19:17
  length
• 19:17
  is
• 19:18
  769
• 19:19
  pages
• 19:20
  and
• 19:20
  you
• 19:20
  mentioned
• 19:20
  that
• 19:21
  it
• 19:21
  is
• 19:21
  partially
• 19:22
  a
• 19:22
  workbook.
• 19:23
  I'm
• 19:23
  assuming
• 19:24
  that
• 19:24
  there
• 19:24
  are
• 19:24
  some
• 19:24
  pages
• 19:25
  that
• 19:25
  some
• 19:25
  of
• 19:25
  that,
• 19:26
  the
• 19:26
  bulk
• 19:26
  of
• 19:26
  that
• 19:27
  is
• 19:27
  the
• 19:27
  availability
• 19:28
  to
• 19:28
  do
• 19:29
  some
• 19:29
  journaling,
• 19:29
  to
• 19:30
  do
• 19:30
  some
• 19:30
  self
• 19:31
  reflection
• 19:31
  and
• 19:32
  writing
• 19:32
  in
• 19:32
  there.
• 19:32
  So
• 19:34
  I
• 19:34
  think
• 19:34
  that's
• 19:34
  great.
• 19:35
  It
• 19:35
  says
• 19:35
  the
• 19:35
  reading
• 19:36
  age
• 19:36
  is
• 19:36
  between
• 19:36
  13
• 19:37
  and
• 19:37
  18
• 19:37
  years
• 19:37
  old.
• 19:38
  But
• 19:38
  I
• 19:38
  assume
• 19:39
  that
• 19:39
  knowing
• 19:40
  some
• 19:40
  of
• 19:40
  the
• 19:40
  adults
• 19:40
  that
• 19:41
  I
• 19:41
  know
• 19:44
  that
• 19:45
  some
• 19:45
  of
• 19:46
  this
• 19:47
  would
• 19:47
  be
• 19:47
  pretty
• 19:47
  good
• 19:47
  for
• 19:47
  young
• 19:48
  adults
• 19:48
  or
• 19:48
  even
• 19:48
  adults
• 19:49
  my
• 19:49
  age.
• 19:50
  I
• 19:50
  have
• 19:50
  a
• 19:51
  house
• 19:51
  full
• 19:53
  of
• 19:53
  ADHD
• 19:56
  and
• 19:57
  I
• 19:57
  know
• 19:57
  that
• 19:58
  we,
• 19:59
  we
• 19:59
  found
• 19:59
  some
• 20:00
  incorrect
• 20:00
  information
• 20:01
  earlier
• 20:02
  related
• 20:02
  to
• 20:02
  autism.
• 20:03
  But
• 20:03
  one
• 20:03
  of
• 20:03
  the
• 20:04
  things
• 20:04
  that
• 20:04
  I
• 20:05
  believe
• 20:05
  when
• 20:05
  it
• 20:06
  comes
• 20:06
  to
• 20:06
  ADHD
• 20:08
  and
• 20:08
  being
• 20:08
  on
• 20:09
  the
• 20:09
  spectrum
• 20:10
  that
• 20:12
  it's
• 20:13
  finding
• 20:13
  ways
• 20:13
  to
• 20:14
  work
• 20:14
  through
• 20:15
  what
• 20:16
  it
• 20:16
  is
• 20:16
  that
• 20:16
  your
• 20:16
  ADHD
• 20:17
  might
• 20:18
  be
• 20:18
  blocking
• 20:18
  you
• 20:19
  from
• 20:19
  or
• 20:19
  what
• 20:19
  your
• 20:20
  autism
• 20:20
  might
• 20:21
  potentially
• 20:21
  be
• 20:21
  blocking
• 20:21
  you
• 20:22
  from.
• 20:22
  But
• 20:23
  recognizing
• 20:24
  that
• 20:25
  I
• 20:25
  think
• 20:25
  ADHD
• 20:26
  and
• 20:27
  anyone
• 20:27
  that's
• 20:27
  on
• 20:27
  the
• 20:27
  spectrum,
• 20:28
  they,
• 20:29
  they
• 20:29
  have
• 20:29
  special
• 20:30
  skill
• 20:30
  sets
• 20:31
  and
• 20:31
  we
• 20:31
  have.
• 20:31
  And,
• 20:32
  and
• 20:32
  finding
• 20:33
  how
• 20:33
  my
• 20:34
  children
• 20:36
  learn
• 20:36
  and
• 20:36
  take
• 20:37
  in
• 20:37
  knowledge
• 20:37
  and,
• 20:38
  and
• 20:38
  how
• 20:38
  they,
• 20:39
  you
• 20:39
  know,
• 20:39
  the,
• 20:40
  one
• 20:40
  of
• 20:40
  the
• 20:40
  things
• 20:40
  that
• 20:41
  they
• 20:41
  have
• 20:42
  in
• 20:42
  them
• 20:42
  is
• 20:43
  that
• 20:43
  they
• 20:43
  are
• 20:44
  very
• 20:44
  much
• 20:45
  addicted
• 20:46
  to
• 20:46
  their
• 20:46
  electronics
• 20:47
  when
• 20:47
  they're
• 20:47
  in
• 20:47
  their
• 20:47
  hands.
• 20:48
  When,
• 20:48
  when
• 20:49
  you
• 20:49
  deviate
• 20:50
  from
• 20:50
  that
• 20:50
  and
• 20:50
  you
• 20:50
  get
• 20:51
  them
• 20:51
  onto
• 20:52
  any
• 20:52
  sort
• 20:52
  of
• 20:54
  creative
• 20:55
  path
• 20:55
  or
• 20:56
  creative
• 20:56
  instruction,
• 20:57
  schooling,
• 20:58
  that
• 20:58
  sort
• 20:58
  of
• 20:58
  thing,
• 21:00
  they
• 21:00
  go
• 21:00
  to
• 21:00
  it
• 21:01
  very
• 21:01
  well.
• 21:01
  But
• 21:01
  it's,
• 21:02
  it's,
• 21:03
  it's
• 21:03
  the
• 21:03
  fact
• 21:03
  that
• 21:04
  the,
• 21:04
  the,
• 21:05
  the,
• 21:05
  the
• 21:05
  phones
• 21:06
  and
• 21:06
  the
• 21:06
  tablets
• 21:06
  are
• 21:07
  such
• 21:07
  an
• 21:07
  easy
• 21:08
  distraction
• 21:09
  from,
• 21:09
  from
• 21:09
  just
• 21:09
  regular
• 21:10
  life
• 21:10
  that,
• 21:11
  that
• 21:11
  it's,
• 21:12
  it's
• 21:13
  almost
• 21:13
  like
• 21:14
  severing
• 21:14
  a
• 21:15
  lifeline
• 21:15
  for
• 21:15
  them.
• 21:16
  They
• 21:16
  have,
• 21:16
  they.
• 21:17
  All
• 21:17
  of,
• 21:17
  they're
• 21:18
  homeschooled,
• 21:18
  so
• 21:19
  all
• 21:19
  of
• 21:19
  their
• 21:19
  friends
• 21:20
  are
• 21:21
  also
• 21:21
  homeschooled.
• 21:22
  So
• 21:22
  that's
• 21:22
  their
• 21:22
  connection
• 21:23
  to
• 21:23
  their,
• 21:23
  to
• 21:23
  the
• 21:24
  outside
• 21:24
  world
• 21:24
  for
• 21:25
  them
• 21:25
  in
• 21:25
  a
• 21:25
  lot
• 21:25
  of
• 21:25
  ways,
• 21:25
  except
• 21:26
  for
• 21:26
  the
• 21:26
  activities
• 21:27
  that
• 21:27
  they
• 21:28
  go
• 21:28
  to
• 21:28
  and
• 21:28
  things
• 21:28
  like
• 21:29
  that.
• 21:29
  But
• 21:30
  this
• 21:30
  is,
• 21:30
  this,
• 21:32
  I've
• 21:32
  already
• 21:33
  added
• 21:33
  it
• 21:33
  to
• 21:33
  my
• 21:33
  cart,
• 21:34
  so
• 21:34
  this
• 21:34
  is
• 21:34
  something
• 21:34
  that
• 21:35
  I'm
• 21:35
  going
• 21:35
  to
• 21:36
  have
• 21:36
  to
• 21:36
  bring
• 21:37
  home
• 21:37
  so
• 21:37
  we
• 21:38
  can
• 21:38
  have
• 21:38
  them
• 21:38
  take
• 21:38
  a
• 21:38
  look
• 21:39
  at
• 21:39
  it
• 21:39
  as
• 21:39
  well.
• 21:40
  It
• 21:40
  does
• 21:41
  have
• 21:41
  that
• 21:41
  age
• 21:42
  frame
• 21:42
  because
• 21:43
  that
• 21:43
  was
• 21:43
  mainly
• 21:44
  the
• 21:44
  ages
• 21:45
  that
• 21:45
  I
• 21:46
  started
• 21:46
  to
• 21:47
  have
• 21:47
  sort
• 21:48
  of
• 21:49
  a
• 21:49
  knowledge
• 21:50
  of,
• 21:50
  of
• 21:51
  or
• 21:51
  idea
• 21:52
  that
• 21:52
  I
• 21:52
  was
• 21:52
  going
• 21:53
  through
• 21:53
  so
• 21:53
  much.
• 21:54
  And
• 21:54
  I
• 21:54
  need
• 21:55
  help
• 21:55
  at
• 21:56
  these
• 21:56
  times,
• 21:56
  but
• 21:57
  for
• 21:59
  this
• 21:59
  book
• 21:59
  is
• 22:00
  for
• 22:00
  everybody.
• 22:00
  I
• 22:01
  wanted
• 22:01
  it
• 22:01
  for
• 22:02
  parents,
• 22:02
  caregivers,
• 22:03
  for
• 22:04
  therapists
• 22:04
  and
• 22:05
  counselors,
• 22:06
  college
• 22:06
  students,
• 22:07
  creatives,
• 22:08
  anybody
• 22:08
  really,
• 22:09
  that
• 22:09
  needs
• 22:10
  to
• 22:10
  just
• 22:12
  get
• 22:12
  back
• 22:12
  to,
• 22:13
  to
• 22:13
  themselves,
• 22:14
  I
• 22:14
  think.
• 22:14
  And
• 22:14
  that's
• 22:15
  what
• 22:15
  this
• 22:15
  book
• 22:15
  has
• 22:16
  helped
• 22:16
  me
• 22:16
  do
• 22:17
  because
• 22:18
  a
• 22:18
  lot
• 22:18
  of
• 22:18
  this
• 22:18
  comes
• 22:19
  from
• 22:19
  work
• 22:19
  that
• 22:20
  I've
• 22:20
  actually
• 22:20
  done.
• 22:21
  It
• 22:21
  started
• 22:21
  out
• 22:22
  as
• 22:23
  me
• 22:24
  writing
• 22:24
  questions
• 22:24
  for
• 22:25
  myself,
• 22:25
  and
• 22:26
  then
• 22:26
  after
• 22:27
  I
• 22:27
  dealt
• 22:27
  with
• 22:28
  those
• 22:28
  issues
• 22:29
  and
• 22:29
  questions,
• 22:30
  I
• 22:30
  started
• 22:30
  to
• 22:30
  write
• 22:31
  them
• 22:31
  for
• 22:31
  my
• 22:31
  husband,
• 22:32
  for
• 22:32
  my
• 22:32
  kids.
• 22:33
  And
• 22:33
  then
• 22:33
  I
• 22:34
  started
• 22:34
  to
• 22:34
  look
• 22:34
  at
• 22:35
  the
• 22:35
  broader
• 22:35
  scope
• 22:36
  of
• 22:36
  like
• 22:36
  everybody
• 22:37
  needs.
• 22:38
  Everybody
• 22:38
  has
• 22:39
  traumatic
• 22:39
  events.
• 22:40
  So
• 22:40
  I'm
• 22:40
  going
• 22:40
  to
• 22:40
  just
• 22:41
  create
• 22:42
  a
• 22:42
  lot
• 22:42
  of
• 22:42
  questions
• 22:43
  for
• 22:43
  all
• 22:43
  types
• 22:44
  of
• 22:44
  issues
• 22:44
  and
• 22:45
  hopefully
• 22:45
  this
• 22:46
  will
• 22:46
  help
• 22:46
  somebody.
• 22:47
  So
• 22:47
  I
• 22:48
  don't
• 22:48
  want
• 22:48
  it
• 22:48
  to
• 22:48
  come
• 22:48
  off
• 22:49
  like,
• 22:49
  oh,
• 22:49
  I'm.
• 22:50
  I'm
• 22:50
  the
• 22:51
  queen
• 22:51
  of
• 22:51
  not
• 22:51
  having
• 22:52
  my
• 22:52
  phone
• 22:52
  in
• 22:52
  my
• 22:53
  hand.
• 22:53
  But
• 22:53
  more
• 22:54
  so
• 22:54
  I
• 22:54
  just
• 22:54
  want
• 22:55
  to
• 22:55
  say,
• 22:55
  look,
• 22:56
  we're
• 22:56
  all,
• 22:57
  we're
• 22:57
  all
• 22:57
  addicted
• 22:58
  to
• 22:58
  our
• 22:58
  phones,
• 22:58
  but
• 22:59
  we
• 22:59
  can
• 23:00
  do
• 23:00
  better.
• 23:00
  We
• 23:01
  can
• 23:01
  definitely
• 23:01
  tell
• 23:02
  our
• 23:02
  stories.
• 23:03
  And
• 23:04
  yeah,
• 23:05
  I
• 23:06
  reflect
• 23:06
  on
• 23:06
  what
• 23:06
  I've
• 23:07
  seen
• 23:07
  and
• 23:08
  I
• 23:08
  try
• 23:08
  to
• 23:08
  ask
• 23:09
  those
• 23:09
  questions
• 23:10
  in
• 23:10
  this
• 23:10
  book
• 23:11
  to
• 23:11
  help,
• 23:12
  to
• 23:12
  help
• 23:13
  everybody,
• 23:14
  honestly.
• 23:15
  But
• 23:15
  I
• 23:16
  also
• 23:16
  laugh
• 23:16
  at
• 23:16
  myself
• 23:17
  when
• 23:17
  I
• 23:17
  Do
• 23:18
  overuse
• 23:18
  my
• 23:19
  phone.
• 23:19
  I
• 23:19
  do
• 23:20
  poke
• 23:20
  fun
• 23:21
  at
• 23:21
  others
• 23:21
  like,
• 23:22
  hey,
• 23:22
  you're
• 23:22
  on
• 23:22
  your
• 23:23
  phone.
• 23:23
  Too
• 23:23
  much
• 23:23
  time
• 23:24
  to
• 23:24
  get
• 23:24
  off.
• 23:25
  But
• 23:25
  it's
• 23:26
  definitely
• 23:27
  nobody's
• 23:28
  perfect.
• 23:28
  And
• 23:28
  I
• 23:29
  know
• 23:29
  that
• 23:30
  sometimes
• 23:30
  as
• 23:31
  parents,
• 23:31
  we
• 23:31
  also
• 23:32
  feel
• 23:32
  like,
• 23:32
  this
• 23:32
  deep,
• 23:33
  deep
• 23:33
  shame.
• 23:33
  Like,
• 23:34
  I
• 23:34
  let
• 23:34
  my
• 23:35
  kid
• 23:35
  use
• 23:35
  their
• 23:35
  phones
• 23:36
  for
• 23:36
  more
• 23:36
  than
• 23:37
  what
• 23:37
  I
• 23:37
  wanted,
• 23:38
  but
• 23:38
  nobody's
• 23:39
  perfect,
• 23:39
  and
• 23:39
  we're
• 23:39
  all
• 23:40
  capable
• 23:40
  of
• 23:41
  creating
• 23:41
  that
• 23:41
  change
• 23:42
  in
• 23:42
  our
• 23:42
  homes
• 23:43
  that
• 23:43
  we
• 23:43
  want
• 23:43
  to
• 23:43
  see.
• 23:44
  And
• 23:44
  so,
• 23:45
  you
• 23:45
  know,
• 23:45
  I
• 23:45
  want
• 23:46
  this
• 23:46
  book
• 23:46
  to
• 23:46
  feel
• 23:47
  like,
• 23:47
  you
• 23:48
  know,
• 23:48
  it's
• 23:48
  a
• 23:48
  conversation
• 23:49
  with
• 23:50
  ourselves
• 23:50
  or
• 23:50
  with
• 23:51
  me
• 23:51
  or
• 23:52
  with
• 23:52
  a
• 23:52
  family
• 23:53
  member
• 23:53
  or
• 23:54
  whatever
• 23:54
  the
• 23:54
  case
• 23:54
  may
• 23:55
  be,
• 23:55
  but
• 23:55
  without
• 23:56
  all
• 23:56
  the
• 23:57
  guilt
• 23:57
  and
• 23:58
  shame
• 23:58
  that's
• 23:59
  attached
• 23:59
  to
• 24:00
  using
• 24:00
  our
• 24:00
  phones
• 24:01
  as
• 24:01
  much
• 24:01
  as
• 24:02
  we
• 24:02
  don't
• 24:02
  want
• 24:02
  to.
• 24:03
  Yeah,
• 24:04
  yeah.
• 24:04
  And
• 24:04
  I'm.
• 24:04
  I'm
• 24:05
  fully
• 24:05
  addicted
• 24:06
  to
• 24:06
  mine.
• 24:06
  I
• 24:06
  mean,
• 24:06
  it's
• 24:07
  like,
• 24:07
  at
• 24:07
  least
• 24:07
  I
• 24:08
  want
• 24:08
  to
• 24:08
  say
• 24:08
  every
• 24:08
  10
• 24:08
  minutes,
• 24:09
  I
• 24:09
  get
• 24:09
  buzzes
• 24:10
  and
• 24:10
  notifications.
• 24:11
  I
• 24:11
  just
• 24:11
  look
• 24:11
  over
• 24:11
  and
• 24:12
  check
• 24:12
  or
• 24:13
  something
• 24:13
  else.
• 24:13
  I
• 24:13
  mean,
• 24:13
  it's.
• 24:15
  It
• 24:15
  has
• 24:15
  become
• 24:16
  just
• 24:16
  also,
• 24:17
  I'm,
• 24:17
  like,
• 24:17
  dependent
• 24:18
  on
• 24:18
  it.
• 24:18
  I
• 24:19
  mean,
• 24:19
  I
• 24:19
  take
• 24:20
  too
• 24:20
  many
• 24:20
  phone
• 24:20
  calls.
• 24:21
  I
• 24:21
  have
• 24:21
  phone
• 24:21
  calls
• 24:22
  all
• 24:22
  the
• 24:22
  time,
• 24:22
  text
• 24:23
  messages.
• 24:23
  Always
• 24:24
  something's
• 24:24
  happening.
• 24:25
  And
• 24:25
  so
• 24:25
  I
• 24:25
  feel
• 24:25
  like
• 24:25
  there's
• 24:26
  some
• 24:26
  level
• 24:27
  of.
• 24:28
  I
• 24:29
  don't.
• 24:29
  I
• 24:29
  don't
• 24:29
  want
• 24:29
  to
• 24:29
  say,
• 24:30
  like.
• 24:30
  Well,
• 24:30
  I
• 24:31
  feel
• 24:31
  like
• 24:31
  one
• 24:31
  of
• 24:31
  the
• 24:31
  pros
• 24:32
  is
• 24:32
  that
• 24:32
  you
• 24:32
  can
• 24:33
  be
• 24:33
  social
• 24:33
  with
• 24:33
  it,
• 24:34
  but
• 24:34
  there's
• 24:35
  still
• 24:35
  that.
• 24:35
  That's
• 24:36
  not
• 24:36
  what
• 24:36
  I'm
• 24:36
  always
• 24:37
  doing.
• 24:37
  A
• 24:37
  lot
• 24:37
  of
• 24:37
  the
• 24:38
  time.
• 24:38
  It's
• 24:38
  also
• 24:38
  like
• 24:38
  reading
• 24:39
  and
• 24:40
  watching
• 24:40
  videos.
• 24:41
  That's
• 24:41
  just.
• 24:41
  I
• 24:42
  mean,
• 24:42
  I
• 24:42
  look
• 24:42
  down
• 24:42
  and
• 24:42
  then
• 24:43
  an
• 24:43
  hour
• 24:43
  has
• 24:43
  gone
• 24:43
  by.
• 24:44
  I
• 24:44
  mean,
• 24:44
  it
• 24:44
  really
• 24:45
  is
• 24:47
  some.
• 24:47
  Some
• 24:48
  sort
• 24:48
  of
• 24:48
  addiction
• 24:48
  that
• 24:49
  I
• 24:49
  will
• 24:50
  admit
• 24:50
  that
• 24:50
  I
• 24:50
  have.
• 24:51
  I
• 24:51
  am
• 24:51
  absolutely
• 24:52
  of
• 24:52
  the
• 24:52
  mindset
• 24:52
  that
• 24:53
  there
• 24:53
  is
• 24:53
  an
• 24:53
  Eden
• 24:54
  somewhere
• 24:55
  that
• 24:55
  I
• 24:56
  am
• 24:56
  not
• 24:56
  connected
• 24:57
  to
• 24:57
  anything,
• 24:58
  that
• 24:58
  I
• 24:58
  don't
• 24:58
  have
• 24:59
  any
• 24:59
  devices
• 25:00
  that,
• 25:01
  you
• 25:01
  know.
• 25:02
  And
• 25:02
  I
• 25:02
  realize
• 25:02
  that
• 25:03
  it's
• 25:03
  going
• 25:03
  to
• 25:03
  probably
• 25:03
  be
• 25:04
  about
• 25:04
  the
• 25:04
  time
• 25:04
  that
• 25:04
  my
• 25:05
  dementia
• 25:05
  sets
• 25:05
  in
• 25:05
  and
• 25:06
  I'
• 25:06
  in
• 25:06
  a
• 25:07
  home
• 25:07
  where
• 25:07
  I'm
• 25:07
  strapped
• 25:08
  to
• 25:08
  a
• 25:08
  bed
• 25:08
  and
• 25:09
  can't
• 25:09
  make
• 25:09
  any
• 25:10
  decisions
• 25:10
  for
• 25:10
  myself.
• 25:11
  But,
• 25:11
  you
• 25:12
  know,
• 25:12
  it's.
• 25:12
  But
• 25:12
  I
• 25:13
  do.
• 25:14
  I
• 25:14
  do
• 25:14
  appreciate
• 25:15
  the
• 25:16
  times
• 25:16
  where,
• 25:17
  let's
• 25:17
  say
• 25:17
  I
• 25:18
  sit
• 25:18
  down
• 25:18
  and
• 25:18
  just
• 25:18
  read
• 25:19
  a
• 25:19
  book
• 25:19
  or
• 25:20
  watch
• 25:20
  a
• 25:20
  movie.
• 25:21
  Like,
• 25:22
  there
• 25:22
  is
• 25:23
  significant
• 25:25
  desire
• 25:26
  to
• 25:26
  have
• 25:26
  that
• 25:27
  time
• 25:27
  more
• 25:27
  often,
• 25:28
  or,
• 25:29
  you
• 25:29
  know,
• 25:29
  just
• 25:29
  to
• 25:29
  sit.
• 25:30
  To
• 25:30
  sit
• 25:30
  down
• 25:30
  and
• 25:30
  read
• 25:30
  with
• 25:31
  your
• 25:31
  children
• 25:31
  or
• 25:32
  to.
• 25:34
  I
• 25:34
  love
• 25:35
  having
• 25:35
  the
• 25:35
  discussions
• 25:36
  because
• 25:36
  one
• 25:36
  of
• 25:37
  the
• 25:37
  things
• 25:37
  that
• 25:37
  my
• 25:37
  kids
• 25:38
  really
• 25:38
  enjoy
• 25:39
  is
• 25:40
  talking
• 25:40
  about
• 25:40
  history.
• 25:41
  My
• 25:41
  daughter
• 25:42
  Vivian
• 25:43
  is
• 25:43
  very
• 25:44
  much
• 25:44
  obsessed
• 25:45
  with
• 25:45
  the
• 25:45
  Broadway
• 25:46
  show
• 25:46
  Hamilton,
• 25:47
  and
• 25:50
  she
• 25:50
  has
• 25:51
  researched
• 25:51
  on
• 25:51
  her
• 25:52
  own
• 25:52
  just
• 25:53
  some
• 25:53
  of
• 25:53
  the
• 25:53
  things
• 25:54
  from
• 25:55
  the
• 25:55
  play
• 25:55
  or
• 25:55
  from
• 25:56
  the
• 25:56
  Broadway
• 25:57
  from
• 25:57
  the
• 25:57
  musical
• 25:58
  and
• 25:58
  the
• 25:59
  differences
• 25:59
  between
• 26:01
  what
• 26:01
  Hamilton
• 26:02
  and
• 26:02
  who
• 26:03
  he
• 26:03
  was
• 26:03
  and
• 26:04
  the
• 26:04
  things
• 26:04
  that
• 26:04
  he
• 26:05
  really
• 26:05
  stood
• 26:05
  for
• 26:05
  versus
• 26:06
  what,
• 26:06
  what
• 26:06
  is
• 26:07
  in
• 26:07
  what
• 26:07
  makes
• 26:07
  a
• 26:07
  good
• 26:08
  Broadway
• 26:08
  show.
• 26:09
  But
• 26:10
  learning
• 26:10
  history
• 26:10
  about
• 26:11
  him
• 26:11
  and
• 26:11
  then
• 26:12
  also
• 26:12
  learning
• 26:12
  history
• 26:13
  about
• 26:14
  some
• 26:15
  of
• 26:15
  the
• 26:15
  characters
• 26:15
  that
• 26:16
  were
• 26:16
  in
• 26:16
  that.
• 26:17
  That
• 26:17
  are.
• 26:17
  That
• 26:17
  are.
• 26:17
  That
• 26:18
  are,
• 26:18
  that
• 26:18
  are
• 26:18
  in
• 26:18
  the
• 26:19
  play
• 26:19
  or
• 26:19
  that
• 26:19
  are.
• 26:19
  That
• 26:19
  are
• 26:19
  described
• 26:20
  in
• 26:20
  the
• 26:20
  musical
• 26:21
  and,
• 26:21
  and
• 26:22
  learning
• 26:22
  that
• 26:22
  history
• 26:25
  telling
• 26:25
  her
• 26:25
  that,
• 26:26
  you
• 26:26
  know,
• 26:26
  that
• 26:27
  slavery
• 26:28
  wasn't
• 26:29
  just
• 26:29
  confined
• 26:30
  to
• 26:30
  the
• 26:30
  south,
• 26:31
  that,
• 26:31
  that
• 26:31
  early
• 26:32
  on
• 26:33
  that,
• 26:33
  you
• 26:33
  know,
• 26:34
  and
• 26:34
  that.
• 26:34
  That
• 26:35
  the,
• 26:35
  the
• 26:35
  heroes
• 26:36
  that
• 26:36
  we
• 26:37
  have
• 26:37
  recognized
• 26:38
  as
• 26:38
  being
• 26:39
  these
• 26:40
  forefathers
• 26:40
  of
• 26:40
  the
• 26:41
  United
• 26:41
  States
• 26:42
  aren't
• 26:43
  heroes
• 26:43
  in
• 26:44
  the
• 26:44
  sense
• 26:44
  that,
• 26:45
  that
• 26:45
  they
• 26:45
  still,
• 26:46
  they
• 26:46
  still
• 26:47
  used
• 26:47
  slavery
• 26:48
  to
• 26:49
  amass
• 26:50
  their
• 26:50
  wealth,
• 26:51
  whether
• 26:52
  it's,
• 26:52
  you
• 26:52
  know,
• 26:52
  Madison
• 26:53
  or
• 26:53
  Washington
• 26:54
  or.
• 26:55
  I
• 26:55
  think,
• 26:55
  I
• 26:55
  think
• 26:56
  one
• 26:56
  of
• 26:56
  the,
• 26:56
  One
• 26:56
  of
• 26:56
  the
• 26:57
  very.
• 26:57
  One
• 26:57
  of
• 26:57
  the,
• 26:57
  One
• 26:58
  of
• 26:58
  the
• 26:58
  only
• 26:58
  like
• 26:59
  original
• 26:59
  or
• 26:59
  the
• 27:00
  first
• 27:00
  few
• 27:00
  presidents,
• 27:01
  John
• 27:01
  Adams
• 27:02
  was
• 27:02
  that
• 27:03
  didn't
• 27:03
  have
• 27:03
  slaves.
• 27:03
  And
• 27:03
  then,
• 27:04
  and
• 27:04
  then
• 27:04
  he
• 27:05
  did
• 27:05
  have
• 27:05
  slaves
• 27:05
  when
• 27:06
  he
• 27:06
  was
• 27:06
  president
• 27:06
  because
• 27:07
  he
• 27:07
  was
• 27:07
  the
• 27:07
  first
• 27:08
  president
• 27:08
  to
• 27:08
  move
• 27:08
  into
• 27:09
  the
• 27:09
  White
• 27:09
  House,
• 27:09
  which
• 27:10
  still
• 27:10
  had
• 27:11
  slaves
• 27:11
  building
• 27:11
  it.
• 27:13
  So,
• 27:13
  you
• 27:13
  know,
• 27:13
  but
• 27:14
  she's.
• 27:14
  I
• 27:14
  enjoy
• 27:15
  talking
• 27:15
  to
• 27:16
  her
• 27:16
  about
• 27:16
  history
• 27:16
  and
• 27:17
  learning,
• 27:18
  learning
• 27:18
  along
• 27:19
  with
• 27:19
  her
• 27:20
  and,
• 27:20
  and,
• 27:20
  and,
• 27:20
  and
• 27:21
  both
• 27:21
  of
• 27:21
  them,
• 27:22
  those
• 27:23
  sorts
• 27:23
  of
• 27:23
  things.
• 27:23
  So,
• 27:24
  but,
• 27:24
  but
• 27:24
  I
• 27:24
  also
• 27:25
  recognize
• 27:25
  that
• 27:25
  that
• 27:25
  is
• 27:26
  disconnection
• 27:26
  time.
• 27:27
  That
• 27:27
  is
• 27:27
  time
• 27:27
  that
• 27:27
  I
• 27:28
  am
• 27:28
  not
• 27:29
  holding
• 27:29
  my
• 27:29
  phone,
• 27:30
  that
• 27:30
  they're
• 27:30
  not
• 27:31
  staring
• 27:31
  at
• 27:31
  their
• 27:31
  tablets.
• 27:34
  Again.
• 27:34
  I
• 27:35
  want
• 27:35
  to
• 27:35
  tell
• 27:35
  everybody
• 27:36
  we
• 27:36
  have
• 27:37
  author
• 27:38
  Joelie
• 27:39
  Williams,
• 27:39
  who
• 27:40
  has
• 27:40
  written
• 27:41
  a
• 27:41
  book
• 27:41
  available
• 27:41
  on
• 27:42
  Amazon,
• 27:42
  Put
• 27:42
  the
• 27:42
  Phone
• 27:43
  Down.
• 27:43
  We
• 27:43
  have
• 27:43
  a
• 27:44
  Job
• 27:44
  to
• 27:44
  Do.
• 27:44
  It
• 27:44
  is
• 27:45
  available
• 27:45
  in
• 27:45
  paperback,
• 27:46
  large
• 27:46
  print
• 27:47
  on
• 27:47
  Amazon.
• 27:48
  You
• 27:48
  can
• 27:48
  find
• 27:48
  links
• 27:48
  in
• 27:48
  the
• 27:48
  show
• 27:49
  notes.
• 27:50
  The
• 27:50
  tagline
• 27:50
  at
• 27:51
  the
• 27:51
  bottom
• 27:51
  of
• 27:51
  the
• 27:51
  description
• 27:52
  says,
• 27:52
  for
• 27:52
  anyone
• 27:53
  ready
• 27:53
  to
• 27:53
  put
• 27:53
  the
• 27:54
  distractions
• 27:54
  down
• 27:54
  and
• 27:55
  pick
• 27:55
  up
• 27:55
  the
• 27:55
  pieces
• 27:55
  of
• 27:56
  themselves,
• 27:57
  this
• 27:57
  book
• 27:57
  is
• 27:57
  for
• 27:57
  you.
• 27:59
  When
• 28:00
  you
• 28:00
  wrote
• 28:00
  this,
• 28:01
  obviously
• 28:02
  a
• 28:02
  lot
• 28:02
  of
• 28:02
  it
• 28:03
  was
• 28:03
  also
• 28:04
  tied
• 28:05
  to
• 28:05
  your
• 28:06
  personality
• 28:06
  or
• 28:07
  to
• 28:08
  your
• 28:08
  situation.
• 28:09
  You
• 28:09
  mentioned
• 28:10
  your
• 28:10
  trauma.
• 28:12
  Was
• 28:12
  there
• 28:12
  anyone
• 28:13
  else
• 28:13
  close
• 28:13
  to
• 28:14
  you
• 28:14
  that
• 28:14
  you
• 28:15
  also
• 28:15
  recognized
• 28:16
  that
• 28:16
  this
• 28:16
  is
• 28:17
  something
• 28:17
  that
• 28:17
  would
• 28:17
  benefit
• 28:18
  them?
• 28:19
  So
• 28:20
  it
• 28:20
  was
• 28:21
  definitely
• 28:22
  something
• 28:23
  that
• 28:23
  I
• 28:23
  think
• 28:24
  was
• 28:24
  needed
• 28:24
  for
• 28:25
  my
• 28:26
  husband
• 28:28
  and
• 28:29
  just
• 28:29
  my
• 28:29
  family
• 28:29
  in
• 28:30
  general,
• 28:30
  or
• 28:31
  just
• 28:31
  everybody
• 28:32
  around
• 28:32
  me,
• 28:32
  but
• 28:33
  specifically
• 28:34
  my
• 28:35
  children.
• 28:35
  I
• 28:35
  saw
• 28:36
  that
• 28:36
  they
• 28:36
  were
• 28:36
  having
• 28:36
  a
• 28:37
  lot
• 28:37
  of
• 28:37
  trouble
• 28:38
  getting
• 28:39
  me
• 28:39
  and
• 28:39
  my
• 28:39
  husband's
• 28:40
  attention.
• 28:41
  And
• 28:41
  that
• 28:41
  was
• 28:42
  something
• 28:42
  that
• 28:42
  sparked
• 28:43
  the
• 28:44
  desire
• 28:44
  for
• 28:44
  me
• 28:44
  to
• 28:45
  create
• 28:45
  this
• 28:45
  book.
• 28:46
  I
• 28:46
  was
• 28:47
  ignoring
• 28:48
  the
• 28:48
  job
• 28:48
  of
• 28:48
  being
• 28:49
  their,
• 28:49
  their
• 28:49
  parent.
• 28:50
  And
• 28:50
  that
• 28:51
  was
• 28:51
  really,
• 28:52
  it
• 28:53
  was
• 28:53
  just
• 28:53
  hurtful
• 28:53
  to
• 28:54
  see.
• 28:54
  And
• 28:54
  then
• 28:55
  I
• 28:55
  would
• 28:55
  see
• 28:56
  it
• 28:56
  on
• 28:56
  social
• 28:57
  media
• 28:57
  as
• 28:58
  well.
• 28:58
  Parents
• 29:00
  scrolling
• 29:00
  and
• 29:00
  their
• 29:01
  kids
• 29:01
  trying
• 29:01
  to
• 29:01
  get
• 29:02
  their
• 29:02
  attention.
• 29:03
  And
• 29:03
  that
• 29:03
  was
• 29:04
  something
• 29:04
  that
• 29:04
  really
• 29:04
  sort
• 29:05
  of
• 29:05
  like
• 29:05
  smacked
• 29:05
  me
• 29:06
  in
• 29:06
  the
• 29:06
  face,
• 29:06
  like,
• 29:06
  I
• 29:07
  have
• 29:07
  to
• 29:07
  stop
• 29:08
  ignoring
• 29:09
  my
• 29:09
  responsibilities
• 29:10
  and
• 29:10
  duties
• 29:11
  to.
• 29:12
  To
• 29:12
  myself
• 29:12
  and
• 29:13
  to
• 29:13
  my
• 29:13
  children.
• 29:15
  And
• 29:15
  then
• 29:15
  on
• 29:16
  a
• 29:16
  larger
• 29:16
  scale,
• 29:17
  it
• 29:17
  was
• 29:17
  speaking
• 29:18
  up
• 29:18
  for
• 29:18
  my
• 29:19
  community
• 29:19
  and
• 29:19
  having
• 29:20
  the
• 29:20
  awareness
• 29:21
  to
• 29:21
  help
• 29:22
  others
• 29:22
  around
• 29:22
  me.
• 29:24
  You
• 29:25
  know,
• 29:25
  when
• 29:26
  it
• 29:26
  comes
• 29:26
  to
• 29:26
  being
• 29:26
  married,
• 29:27
  a
• 29:27
  lot
• 29:27
  of
• 29:28
  it
• 29:28
  has
• 29:28
  to
• 29:28
  do
• 29:28
  with
• 29:28
  listening
• 29:29
  to
• 29:30
  one
• 29:30
  another.
• 29:31
  So
• 29:31
  I
• 29:31
  was
• 29:31
  not
• 29:32
  doing
• 29:32
  that
• 29:32
  as
• 29:33
  well,
• 29:33
  or
• 29:33
  I
• 29:33
  was
• 29:34
  listening,
• 29:34
  but
• 29:34
  not
• 29:35
  really
• 29:35
  listening.
• 29:35
  And
• 29:36
  it
• 29:36
  was
• 29:36
  just
• 29:36
  causing
• 29:36
  problems
• 29:38
  in
• 29:39
  the
• 29:39
  household
• 29:39
  in
• 29:40
  general.
• 29:40
  So
• 29:41
  those
• 29:41
  were
• 29:42
  some
• 29:42
  of
• 29:42
  the
• 29:42
  relationships
• 29:43
  that
• 29:43
  I
• 29:43
  saw
• 29:43
  that
• 29:44
  were
• 29:44
  changing
• 29:45
  due
• 29:45
  to
• 29:45
  my
• 29:46
  own
• 29:46
  phone
• 29:46
  addiction.
• 29:49
  So,
• 29:49
  yeah,
• 29:50
  I
• 29:51
  think
• 29:51
  that's
• 29:51
  amazing,
• 29:52
  the
• 29:53
  amount
• 29:53
  of
• 29:53
  self
• 29:54
  reflection
• 29:54
  that
• 29:54
  that
• 29:55
  takes
• 29:55
  to.
• 29:56
  And
• 29:56
  then
• 29:56
  to
• 29:57
  put
• 29:57
  that
• 29:57
  to
• 29:57
  task,
• 29:58
  to
• 29:58
  try
• 29:58
  and.
• 30:00
  Because
• 30:01
  is
• 30:01
  it
• 30:02
  working?
• 30:03
  That's.
• 30:03
  That.
• 30:03
  I
• 30:03
  guess
• 30:04
  that's.
• 30:04
  That's
• 30:04
  one
• 30:04
  of
• 30:04
  the
• 30:04
  big
• 30:05
  questions.
• 30:05
  And
• 30:05
  not
• 30:06
  as
• 30:06
  a
• 30:06
  reflection
• 30:06
  of
• 30:07
  the
• 30:07
  book,
• 30:07
  but
• 30:08
  everything
• 30:08
  that
• 30:08
  you've
• 30:09
  put
• 30:09
  in
• 30:09
  place,
• 30:09
  are
• 30:09
  you
• 30:10
  seeing
• 30:10
  improvements
• 30:11
  and
• 30:12
  results?
• 30:13
  As
• 30:13
  far
• 30:13
  as
• 30:14
  my
• 30:14
  relationships
• 30:15
  go
• 30:15
  now,
• 30:17
  it
• 30:18
  has
• 30:18
  improved
• 30:18
  a
• 30:19
  lot,
• 30:19
  actually.
• 30:20
  We
• 30:20
  all
• 30:21
  try
• 30:21
  our
• 30:21
  hardest
• 30:22
  to
• 30:22
  stay
• 30:22
  connected
• 30:23
  to
• 30:24
  one
• 30:24
  another.
• 30:26
  I
• 30:26
  started
• 30:26
  listening
• 30:27
  more,
• 30:27
  I
• 30:28
  started
• 30:28
  being
• 30:28
  present,
• 30:29
  and
• 30:30
  I
• 30:30
  was
• 30:30
  finding
• 30:31
  different
• 30:32
  spaces
• 30:32
  where
• 30:33
  I
• 30:33
  could
• 30:33
  put
• 30:34
  my
• 30:34
  phone
• 30:35
  down.
• 30:35
  And
• 30:36
  like,
• 30:36
  at
• 30:36
  dinner
• 30:36
  time
• 30:37
  or
• 30:37
  just
• 30:37
  having,
• 30:38
  you
• 30:38
  know,
• 30:40
  moments
• 30:40
  with
• 30:41
  my
• 30:41
  husband
• 30:41
  and
• 30:41
  my
• 30:41
  kids,
• 30:42
  I
• 30:42
  was
• 30:42
  able
• 30:43
  to
• 30:43
  teach
• 30:43
  them
• 30:44
  more
• 30:44
  because
• 30:44
  I
• 30:44
  also
• 30:45
  homeschool.
• 30:46
  So
• 30:46
  I
• 30:46
  was
• 30:46
  able
• 30:47
  to
• 30:47
  use
• 30:47
  my
• 30:48
  time
• 30:48
  more
• 30:48
  wisely
• 30:49
  to
• 30:49
  create
• 30:50
  lesson
• 30:50
  plans
• 30:51
  and
• 30:51
  things
• 30:52
  of
• 30:52
  that
• 30:52
  nature.
• 30:53
  My
• 30:53
  husband,
• 30:54
  he
• 30:54
  even
• 30:54
  noticed,
• 30:55
  and
• 30:55
  he
• 30:55
  was
• 30:55
  like,
• 30:56
  you
• 30:56
  know,
• 30:57
  I
• 30:57
  want
• 30:57
  to
• 30:57
  try
• 30:58
  this.
• 30:58
  I
• 30:58
  want
• 30:58
  to
• 30:58
  stop
• 30:59
  using
• 30:59
  my
• 30:59
  phone
• 30:59
  as
• 31:00
  much
• 31:00
  too.
• 31:00
  It's
• 31:01
  a
• 31:01
  little
• 31:01
  harder
• 31:01
  for
• 31:02
  him.
• 31:03
  But
• 31:04
  that
• 31:04
  goes
• 31:04
  back
• 31:04
  to.
• 31:05
  To
• 31:05
  mental
• 31:05
  health
• 31:06
  and
• 31:06
  just
• 31:06
  learning
• 31:07
  how
• 31:07
  to
• 31:07
  deal
• 31:08
  with
• 31:08
  your
• 31:08
  issues
• 31:10
  instead
• 31:10
  of
• 31:10
  picking
• 31:11
  up
• 31:11
  the
• 31:11
  phone
• 31:11
  when
• 31:11
  you're
• 31:12
  stressed
• 31:12
  out,
• 31:12
  you
• 31:13
  know,
• 31:13
  you
• 31:13
  have
• 31:13
  to
• 31:14
  learn
• 31:14
  different
• 31:14
  tactics
• 31:15
  to
• 31:16
  stay
• 31:16
  rooted
• 31:16
  in
• 31:17
  your
• 31:18
  feelings
• 31:18
  and
• 31:19
  actually
• 31:19
  address
• 31:20
  them
• 31:20
  in
• 31:20
  that
• 31:21
  moment.
• 31:21
  So
• 31:22
  it
• 31:22
  definitely
• 31:23
  has
• 31:23
  shifted
• 31:24
  the
• 31:24
  energy
• 31:24
  in
• 31:25
  our
• 31:25
  house,
• 31:26
  but
• 31:26
  it
• 31:27
  wasn't
• 31:27
  really
• 31:28
  easy.
• 31:29
  It
• 31:29
  was
• 31:29
  really
• 31:29
  hard.
• 31:30
  Just
• 31:31
  acknowledging
• 31:32
  it
• 31:32
  and
• 31:32
  then
• 31:32
  doing
• 31:33
  it
• 31:33
  is
• 31:33
  two
• 31:34
  different
• 31:34
  things.
• 31:35
  We
• 31:35
  had
• 31:36
  to
• 31:36
  have
• 31:36
  some
• 31:37
  really
• 31:37
  strong
• 31:37
  conversation
• 31:38
  about
• 31:38
  attention,
• 31:39
  about
• 31:39
  presence,
• 31:40
  and
• 31:40
  digital
• 31:41
  boundaries
• 31:42
  that
• 31:42
  we
• 31:42
  wanted
• 31:42
  in
• 31:43
  our
• 31:43
  home.
• 31:43
  While
• 31:44
  those
• 31:44
  talks
• 31:44
  were
• 31:45
  extremely
• 31:45
  uncomfortable
• 31:46
  for
• 31:46
  us
• 31:46
  at
• 31:47
  first,
• 31:47
  they
• 31:48
  did
• 31:48
  bring
• 31:48
  us
• 31:48
  closer
• 31:49
  as
• 31:49
  a
• 31:49
  family.
• 31:51
  When
• 31:52
  one
• 31:52
  person
• 31:52
  shows
• 31:53
  up
• 31:53
  and
• 31:53
  really
• 31:54
  wants
• 31:54
  to,
• 31:55
  you
• 31:56
  know,
• 31:56
  lead
• 31:57
  as
• 31:57
  an
• 31:57
  example
• 31:58
  in
• 31:58
  your
• 31:58
  house,
• 31:59
  everyone.
• 32:00
  Everyone
• 32:00
  feels
• 32:01
  it.
• 32:01
  Everyone
• 32:01
  wants
• 32:02
  to
• 32:02
  be
• 32:02
  a
• 32:02
  part
• 32:02
  of
• 32:02
  that,
• 32:03
  especially
• 32:03
  kids.
• 32:04
  They
• 32:04
  see
• 32:04
  mom
• 32:05
  and
• 32:05
  dad
• 32:05
  interacting
• 32:06
  more
• 32:06
  and
• 32:06
  taking
• 32:07
  time
• 32:08
  to
• 32:08
  be
• 32:08
  with
• 32:08
  one
• 32:08
  another.
• 32:09
  They
• 32:09
  want
• 32:09
  to
• 32:09
  join
• 32:10
  in
• 32:10
  on
• 32:10
  the
• 32:11
  night
• 32:11
  card
• 32:12
  games
• 32:12
  or
• 32:13
  the
• 32:13
  reading
• 32:13
  sessions
• 32:14
  or
• 32:14
  the
• 32:15
  quiet
• 32:15
  time
• 32:16
  that
• 32:16
  we
• 32:16
  have
• 32:17
  at
• 32:17
  home.
• 32:17
  They
• 32:18
  want
• 32:18
  to
• 32:18
  do
• 32:18
  the
• 32:18
  same
• 32:19
  thing.
• 32:19
  So
• 32:20
  I'm
• 32:20
  always
• 32:20
  Thinking
• 32:21
  of
• 32:21
  different
• 32:22
  ways
• 32:23
  to
• 32:24
  stay
• 32:24
  physically,
• 32:25
  emotionally
• 32:25
  and
• 32:25
  mentally
• 32:26
  connected
• 32:26
  to.
• 32:27
  To
• 32:27
  my
• 32:27
  family.
• 32:28
  And,
• 32:30
  you
• 32:31
  know,
• 32:31
  it's
• 32:31
  never.
• 32:32
  It's
• 32:32
  never
• 32:33
  always
• 32:33
  a
• 32:33
  positive
• 32:34
  thing,
• 32:34
  like,
• 32:35
  for
• 32:35
  one
• 32:36
  instance,
• 32:38
  has
• 32:38
  required
• 32:39
  to
• 32:40
  let
• 32:41
  go
• 32:41
  of
• 32:41
  some
• 32:42
  difficult
• 32:42
  situations
• 32:44
  and
• 32:44
  relationships.
• 32:46
  So
• 32:46
  as
• 32:46
  I
• 32:47
  continue
• 32:47
  to
• 32:48
  dive
• 32:48
  deeper
• 32:49
  into
• 32:49
  the
• 32:49
  trauma
• 32:50
  healing
• 32:50
  that
• 32:51
  this
• 32:51
  book
• 32:51
  has
• 32:52
  provided,
• 32:53
  I
• 32:53
  had
• 32:53
  to
• 32:53
  acknowledge
• 32:54
  that
• 32:54
  not
• 32:54
  every
• 32:55
  relationship
• 32:56
  could
• 32:56
  stay
• 32:57
  with
• 32:57
  me.
• 32:57
  I
• 32:57
  had
• 32:58
  to
• 32:58
  stop
• 32:58
  at
• 32:59
  some
• 32:59
  point
• 32:59
  answering
• 33:00
  phone
• 33:00
  calls
• 33:01
  and
• 33:01
  messages
• 33:01
  from
• 33:02
  people
• 33:02
  that
• 33:02
  I
• 33:03
  needed
• 33:03
  to
• 33:03
  distance
• 33:04
  myself
• 33:04
  from.
• 33:05
  So
• 33:07
  it
• 33:07
  wasn't
• 33:07
  easy,
• 33:08
  but
• 33:08
  it
• 33:08
  was
• 33:08
  definitely
• 33:08
  necessary.
• 33:10
  And
• 33:10
  because
• 33:11
  healing
• 33:11
  isn't
• 33:12
  just
• 33:12
  about
• 33:12
  what
• 33:13
  you
• 33:13
  do,
• 33:13
  it's
• 33:14
  also
• 33:14
  about
• 33:14
  what
• 33:14
  you
• 33:15
  stop
• 33:15
  doing,
• 33:16
  and
• 33:17
  that's
• 33:17
  important
• 33:18
  as
• 33:18
  well.
• 33:19
  And
• 33:19
  sometimes
• 33:20
  healing
• 33:20
  asks
• 33:21
  you
• 33:21
  to
• 33:22
  be
• 33:22
  there
• 33:22
  for
• 33:23
  you.
• 33:23
  And
• 33:24
  it
• 33:25
  may
• 33:25
  be
• 33:25
  really
• 33:25
  hard
• 33:26
  to
• 33:26
  do
• 33:26
  it,
• 33:26
  like
• 33:27
  stopping
• 33:27
  some
• 33:28
  relationships
• 33:29
  or
• 33:29
  stopping
• 33:29
  some
• 33:30
  behaviors,
• 33:30
  but
• 33:31
  it's
• 33:31
  a
• 33:31
  way
• 33:32
  that.
• 33:32
  Or
• 33:32
  it's
• 33:33
  something
• 33:33
  that's
• 33:33
  going
• 33:33
  to
• 33:34
  change
• 33:34
  you
• 33:34
  in
• 33:35
  a
• 33:35
  way
• 33:35
  that
• 33:35
  you've
• 33:36
  never
• 33:36
  been
• 33:36
  before,
• 33:37
  and
• 33:37
  it's
• 33:37
  going
• 33:38
  to
• 33:38
  bring
• 33:38
  you
• 33:38
  closer
• 33:39
  to
• 33:39
  your
• 33:40
  real
• 33:40
  self,
• 33:41
  I
• 33:41
  guess
• 33:41
  you
• 33:41
  could
• 33:42
  say.
• 33:42
  Yeah,
• 33:42
  absolutely.
• 33:43
  Bill,
• 33:43
  I
• 33:43
  want
• 33:43
  to
• 33:44
  ask
• 33:44
  you,
• 33:44
  because
• 33:44
  you
• 33:45
  are
• 33:46
  between
• 33:46
  all
• 33:47
  of
• 33:47
  us,
• 33:47
  I
• 33:47
  assume
• 33:48
  you
• 33:48
  are
• 33:50
  the
• 33:50
  most
• 33:50
  recent
• 33:51
  to
• 33:52
  education
• 33:53
  as
• 33:53
  far
• 33:53
  as,
• 33:53
  like,
• 33:54
  university
• 33:54
  and
• 33:55
  high
• 33:55
  school.
• 33:55
  Bill
• 33:55
  is.
• 33:56
  Bill
• 33:56
  is
• 33:56
  23
• 33:57
  now.
• 33:57
  I
• 33:58
  am
• 33:58
  23
• 33:59
  and
• 33:59
  just
• 34:00
  graduated
• 34:00
  in
• 34:01
  December.
• 34:01
  So
• 34:02
  how,
• 34:03
  how.
• 34:04
  What
• 34:04
  do
• 34:04
  you,
• 34:04
  what
• 34:04
  do
• 34:05
  you
• 34:05
  believe
• 34:06
  your
• 34:06
  skills
• 34:07
  in
• 34:07
  poetry
• 34:08
  are
• 34:08
  like?
• 34:08
  Did
• 34:08
  you
• 34:09
  have
• 34:09
  to
• 34:09
  write
• 34:09
  poetry
• 34:10
  when
• 34:10
  you
• 34:10
  were
• 34:10
  in
• 34:10
  school?
• 34:11
  Poetry?
• 34:11
  I
• 34:12
  did
• 34:12
  a
• 34:12
  little
• 34:12
  bit.
• 34:14
  I
• 34:15
  remember
• 34:15
  for
• 34:16
  my
• 34:16
  specific
• 34:16
  major,
• 34:17
  they
• 34:17
  required
• 34:19
  either
• 34:20
  a
• 34:22
  English
• 34:23
  literature
• 34:24
  class,
• 34:24
  which
• 34:25
  is
• 34:25
  actually
• 34:25
  a
• 34:26
  British
• 34:26
  English
• 34:27
  literature
• 34:27
  class,
• 34:28
  or
• 34:29
  a
• 34:29
  poetry
• 34:30
  class.
• 34:30
  And
• 34:30
  I
• 34:31
  opted
• 34:31
  to
• 34:31
  take
• 34:31
  the
• 34:31
  British
• 34:32
  literature
• 34:32
  one
• 34:32
  just
• 34:33
  because.
• 34:34
  Yeah,
• 34:35
  we.
• 34:36
  Yeah,
• 34:36
  we.
• 34:36
  Yep,
• 34:38
  a
• 34:38
  lot
• 34:39
  of
• 34:39
  that.
• 34:40
  We.
• 34:40
  We
• 34:40
  probably
• 34:41
  read
• 34:41
  eight
• 34:42
  books.
• 34:42
  It
• 34:43
  was.
• 34:43
  So,
• 34:43
  I
• 34:44
  mean,
• 34:44
  to
• 34:44
  be
• 34:44
  honest,
• 34:45
  I.
• 34:45
  I
• 34:45
  thought
• 34:45
  it
• 34:45
  was
• 34:46
  very
• 34:46
  interesting,
• 34:46
  but
• 34:47
  there
• 34:47
  were
• 34:47
  very
• 34:47
  dull
• 34:47
  parts
• 34:48
  of
• 34:48
  it.
• 34:48
  Poetry
• 34:51
  I,
• 34:51
  I
• 34:52
  enjoy.
• 34:52
  I
• 34:53
  remember
• 34:53
  when
• 34:53
  I
• 34:53
  was
• 34:53
  in
• 34:53
  high
• 34:54
  school,
• 34:54
  I
• 34:54
  did
• 34:54
  some
• 34:55
  poetry
• 34:56
  and,
• 34:56
  you
• 34:56
  know,
• 34:56
  I
• 34:57
  always
• 34:57
  loved
• 34:57
  a
• 34:57
  shell.
• 34:59
  Is
• 34:59
  it
• 34:59
  Silverstein?
• 34:59
  Silverstein.
• 35:00
  Shel
• 35:00
  Silverstein?
• 35:01
  Yeah.
• 35:02
  Shout
• 35:02
  out
• 35:03
  to
• 35:03
  Shel
• 35:03
  Silverstein.
• 35:06
  You
• 35:06
  know,
• 35:06
  I
• 35:07
  love
• 35:07
  that.
• 35:07
  But
• 35:08
  I
• 35:08
  never
• 35:08
  really
• 35:09
  got
• 35:09
  into
• 35:09
  a
• 35:09
  whole
• 35:10
  lot
• 35:10
  of.
• 35:10
  It
• 35:11
  was
• 35:11
  a
• 35:11
  long
• 35:12
  one.
• 35:12
  I
• 35:12
  don't
• 35:12
  think
• 35:12
  Shel
• 35:12
  still
• 35:13
  around,
• 35:15
  so
• 35:15
  I
• 35:15
  can't.
• 35:16
  No,
• 35:16
  I
• 35:16
  don't
• 35:16
  think
• 35:16
  so.
• 35:18
  No.
• 35:18
  The
• 35:18
  reason
• 35:19
  I.
• 35:19
  So
• 35:19
  I
• 35:19
  am
• 35:21
  and
• 35:21
  because
• 35:21
  I
• 35:21
  want
• 35:21
  to
• 35:22
  get
• 35:22
  into
• 35:22
  some
• 35:22
  of
• 35:22
  your.
• 35:22
  Your
• 35:23
  poetry,
• 35:23
  Joel.
• 35:25
  But
• 35:25
  I
• 35:25
  am.
• 35:26
  I
• 35:26
  am
• 35:26
  not
• 35:26
  very
• 35:27
  good
• 35:27
  at
• 35:27
  reading
• 35:27
  poetry
• 35:28
  and
• 35:29
  getting
• 35:29
  the
• 35:30
  meaning
• 35:30
  out
• 35:30
  of
• 35:30
  it,
• 35:30
  getting
• 35:31
  the
• 35:31
  feeling
• 35:31
  out
• 35:31
  of
• 35:32
  it.
• 35:32
  I
• 35:32
  have
• 35:32
  a
• 35:32
  really
• 35:33
  difficult
• 35:33
  time.
• 35:34
  I
• 35:34
  can.
• 35:35
  I
• 35:35
  can
• 35:35
  listen
• 35:36
  to
• 35:36
  music
• 35:36
  and
• 35:37
  learn
• 35:37
  the
• 35:37
  lyrics
• 35:38
  and
• 35:39
  repeat
• 35:39
  them
• 35:39
  back
• 35:40
  along
• 35:40
  with
• 35:40
  the
• 35:40
  music
• 35:41
  and
• 35:42
  sing
• 35:42
  in
• 35:43
  the
• 35:43
  car
• 35:44
  and
• 35:44
  not
• 35:45
  recognize
• 35:46
  any
• 35:46
  of
• 35:47
  the
• 35:47
  words
• 35:47
  and
• 35:48
  what
• 35:48
  the
• 35:48
  meaning
• 35:48
  of
• 35:48
  those
• 35:49
  words
• 35:49
  is
• 35:50
  until
• 35:50
  I
• 35:50
  hear
• 35:50
  an
• 35:51
  artist
• 35:51
  explain
• 35:52
  what
• 35:52
  it
• 35:52
  is
• 35:52
  that
• 35:53
  that
• 35:53
  song
• 35:53
  was
• 35:53
  about.
• 35:55
  And
• 35:56
  sometimes
• 35:56
  then
• 35:56
  I
• 35:57
  have
• 35:57
  to
• 35:57
  reflect
• 35:57
  and
• 35:57
  go,
• 35:58
  should
• 35:58
  I
• 35:58
  have
• 35:58
  been
• 35:58
  singing
• 35:59
  that
• 35:59
  in
• 35:59
  front
• 35:59
  of
• 35:59
  my
• 36:00
  children?
• 36:00
  And
• 36:00
  the
• 36:00
  answer
• 36:00
  is
• 36:01
  probably
• 36:01
  no.
• 36:01
  Rage
• 36:02
  against
• 36:02
  the
• 36:02
  Machine.
• 36:03
  While
• 36:03
  I
• 36:03
  want
• 36:03
  them
• 36:03
  to
• 36:03
  have
• 36:04
  that
• 36:04
  political
• 36:04
  drive,
• 36:05
  I
• 36:05
  certain
• 36:05
  I
• 36:06
  don't
• 36:06
  need
• 36:06
  them
• 36:07
  repeating
• 36:07
  some
• 36:08
  of
• 36:08
  those
• 36:08
  words
• 36:08
  in
• 36:08
  front
• 36:08
  of
• 36:09
  their
• 36:09
  friends
• 36:09
  or
• 36:09
  their
• 36:10
  grandparents.
• 36:11
  But,
• 36:11
  Joeli,
• 36:12
  you
• 36:13
  are
• 36:13
  a
• 36:13
  poet.
• 36:15
  You
• 36:15
  have
• 36:15
  several
• 36:16
  pieces
• 36:17
  that
• 36:17
  have
• 36:17
  been
• 36:18
  published
• 36:23
  with
• 36:23
  some
• 36:23
  of
• 36:23
  them
• 36:24
  that
• 36:24
  I
• 36:24
  got
• 36:24
  off
• 36:25
  the
• 36:25
  list,
• 36:25
  the
• 36:25
  Scales
• 36:25
  of
• 36:26
  Dust.
• 36:26
  So
• 36:27
  I
• 36:27
  have
• 36:28
  not
• 36:28
  read
• 36:28
  it.
• 36:29
  I
• 36:29
  look
• 36:29
  at
• 36:30
  a
• 36:30
  title
• 36:30
  like
• 36:30
  that
• 36:31
  and
• 36:31
  in
• 36:32
  my
• 36:32
  head
• 36:32
  I
• 36:32
  start
• 36:32
  to
• 36:32
  think,
• 36:33
  okay,
• 36:33
  what.
• 36:34
  What
• 36:34
  could
• 36:34
  this
• 36:34
  potentially
• 36:35
  be
• 36:35
  about?
• 36:35
  So
• 36:35
  I'm
• 36:35
  judging
• 36:35
  the
• 36:36
  book
• 36:36
  by
• 36:36
  its
• 36:36
  cover.
• 36:40
  So
• 36:41
  I
• 36:41
  would
• 36:41
  prefer
• 36:41
  you
• 36:42
  tell
• 36:42
  me
• 36:42
  before
• 36:42
  I
• 36:43
  go
• 36:43
  into
• 36:43
  a
• 36:44
  spiel
• 36:44
  where
• 36:44
  I'm
• 36:45
  completely
• 36:45
  wrong,
• 36:46
  because
• 36:46
  that
• 36:47
  is
• 36:47
  not
• 36:47
  good.
• 36:49
  So
• 36:50
  what
• 36:50
  is
• 36:50
  this
• 36:50
  poem
• 36:51
  about?
• 36:51
  Let
• 36:51
  me
• 36:51
  pull
• 36:51
  it
• 36:52
  up.
• 36:52
  Because
• 36:52
  I've
• 36:53
  written
• 36:53
  so
• 36:54
  many
• 36:54
  poems
• 36:54
  that
• 36:55
  I
• 36:56
  can't
• 36:56
  remember
• 36:57
  verbatim
• 36:57
  the
• 36:58
  words.
• 36:58
  So
• 36:59
  let
• 36:59
  me
• 36:59
  just.
• 37:00
  Well,
• 37:01
  well,
• 37:01
  let
• 37:01
  me
• 37:02
  ask
• 37:02
  you
• 37:02
  this.
• 37:04
  Where
• 37:04
  can
• 37:04
  people
• 37:05
  find
• 37:05
  your
• 37:05
  poetry?
• 37:07
  So
• 37:07
  right
• 37:07
  now
• 37:08
  I
• 37:08
  don't
• 37:08
  have
• 37:08
  a
• 37:09
  specific
• 37:10
  place.
• 37:10
  I
• 37:11
  just.
• 37:11
  I
• 37:12
  like
• 37:12
  to
• 37:12
  just
• 37:13
  post
• 37:13
  it
• 37:13
  to
• 37:13
  different
• 37:14
  magazines
• 37:14
  and
• 37:15
  journals
• 37:15
  and
• 37:16
  do
• 37:16
  it
• 37:16
  that
• 37:16
  way.
• 37:17
  I
• 37:17
  am
• 37:17
  working
• 37:17
  on
• 37:18
  an
• 37:18
  anthology
• 37:19
  of
• 37:19
  my
• 37:20
  poems
• 37:20
  because
• 37:20
  I
• 37:21
  do
• 37:21
  have
• 37:22
  years
• 37:22
  and
• 37:22
  years
• 37:22
  worth,
• 37:23
  but
• 37:23
  most
• 37:24
  of
• 37:24
  my
• 37:24
  stuff
• 37:24
  is
• 37:24
  published
• 37:25
  in
• 37:25
  other
• 37:26
  people's
• 37:28
  releases,
• 37:28
  publications.
• 37:29
  So,
• 37:30
  yeah,
• 37:30
  I
• 37:30
  don't
• 37:30
  have
• 37:31
  a
• 37:31
  specific
• 37:31
  place,
• 37:32
  but.
• 37:33
  So
• 37:33
  the
• 37:33
  scales
• 37:34
  of
• 37:34
  this.
• 37:34
  I'm
• 37:34
  just
• 37:34
  gonna
• 37:35
  read
• 37:35
  it
• 37:35
  and
• 37:35
  then
• 37:35
  sort
• 37:36
  of
• 37:36
  say
• 37:36
  what
• 37:37
  it's
• 37:37
  about.
• 37:37
  So.
• 37:39
  The
• 37:39
  Scales
• 37:40
  of
• 37:40
  Dust
• 37:41
  by
• 37:41
  Joelie
• 37:42
  Williams.
• 37:43
  The
• 37:43
  judge
• 37:43
  and
• 37:44
  robes
• 37:44
  a
• 37:44
  gavel
• 37:45
  poised
• 37:45
  to
• 37:45
  break
• 37:46
  a
• 37:46
  measured
• 37:47
  breath
• 37:47
  before
• 37:47
  the
• 37:48
  verdict
• 37:48
  falls
• 37:49
  the
• 37:49
  jury's
• 37:49
  eyes
• 37:50
  like
• 37:50
  iron
• 37:51
  gates
• 37:51
  opaque
• 37:52
  behind
• 37:52
  them
• 37:53
  hum
• 37:54
  the
• 37:54
  distant
• 37:54
  present
• 37:55
  walls
• 37:55
  the
• 37:55
  lawyer
• 37:56
  paces,
• 37:56
  weaving
• 37:57
  webs
• 37:57
  of
• 37:57
  doubt
• 37:58
  his
• 37:58
  silver
• 37:59
  tongue
• 37:59
  a
• 37:59
  blade
• 38:00
  behind
• 38:00
  a
• 38:00
  smile
• 38:01
  yet
• 38:01
  truth
• 38:02
  and
• 38:02
  fiction
• 38:03
  wrestle,
• 38:03
  flail
• 38:04
  about
• 38:04
  and
• 38:05
  both
• 38:05
  may
• 38:05
  lose
• 38:06
  if
• 38:06
  dressed
• 38:07
  in
• 38:07
  right
• 38:07
  denial
• 38:08
  the
• 38:08
  witness
• 38:09
  shakes
• 38:09
  a
• 38:09
  hand
• 38:10
  upon
• 38:10
  the
• 38:10
  book
• 38:11
  yet
• 38:11
  perjury's
• 38:12
  a
• 38:12
  coin
• 38:13
  that
• 38:14
  all
• 38:14
  may
• 38:14
  spend
• 38:15
  the
• 38:15
  guilty
• 38:16
  sit
• 38:16
  with
• 38:16
  innocence
• 38:17
  look,
• 38:18
  the
• 38:18
  innocent
• 38:18
  are
• 38:19
  guilty
• 38:19
  in
• 38:19
  the
• 38:20
  end
• 38:20
  what
• 38:20
  is
• 38:20
  law
• 38:21
  but
• 38:21
  paper
• 38:21
  turned
• 38:22
  to
• 38:22
  dust?
• 38:23
  A
• 38:23
  game
• 38:23
  of
• 38:24
  gold,
• 38:24
  A
• 38:25
  theater
• 38:25
  of
• 38:25
  trust.
• 38:26
  So
• 38:27
  this
• 38:27
  poem
• 38:28
  talks
• 38:28
  about
• 38:29
  sort
• 38:29
  of
• 38:29
  all
• 38:30
  of
• 38:30
  the
• 38:31
  pros
• 38:31
  and
• 38:32
  cons
• 38:32
  of
• 38:32
  the
• 38:33
  judicial
• 38:33
  system.
• 38:37
  It's
• 38:37
  sort
• 38:38
  of
• 38:38
  like
• 38:40
  a
• 38:40
  theater
• 38:41
  or
• 38:41
  a
• 38:41
  show.
• 38:42
  In
• 38:42
  the
• 38:42
  theater,
• 38:43
  everybody's
• 38:44
  dressed
• 38:44
  up.
• 38:44
  Everybody
• 38:45
  has
• 38:45
  to
• 38:45
  come
• 38:45
  looking
• 38:46
  a
• 38:46
  certain
• 38:46
  way,
• 38:48
  and
• 38:48
  everybody
• 38:49
  has
• 38:49
  these
• 38:49
  specific
• 38:50
  roles
• 38:51
  that
• 38:51
  they
• 38:51
  need
• 38:51
  to
• 38:52
  Play
• 38:53
  to
• 38:53
  be
• 38:53
  able
• 38:54
  to
• 38:54
  either
• 38:55
  put
• 38:55
  someone
• 38:55
  in
• 38:55
  jail
• 38:56
  or
• 38:56
  not.
• 38:57
  And
• 38:57
  then
• 38:58
  a
• 38:58
  lot
• 38:58
  of
• 38:58
  the
• 38:59
  times,
• 39:01
  no
• 39:01
  one's
• 39:02
  ever
• 39:02
  really
• 39:02
  right
• 39:03
  in
• 39:03
  these
• 39:03
  situations
• 39:04
  because
• 39:05
  everybody's
• 39:05
  just
• 39:06
  trying
• 39:06
  to
• 39:06
  get
• 39:06
  the
• 39:06
  best
• 39:07
  outcome
• 39:07
  for
• 39:08
  themselves,
• 39:09
  you
• 39:10
  know,
• 39:10
  regardless
• 39:11
  of
• 39:11
  the
• 39:12
  crime
• 39:12
  or
• 39:12
  the
• 39:12
  criminal.
• 39:13
  For
• 39:14
  me,
• 39:14
  a
• 39:14
  lot
• 39:14
  of
• 39:15
  crime
• 39:15
  stems
• 39:16
  from.
• 39:16
  From
• 39:16
  the
• 39:17
  lack
• 39:17
  of
• 39:18
  care
• 39:18
  and
• 39:19
  services
• 39:20
  provided
• 39:20
  to
• 39:21
  certain
• 39:21
  communities
• 39:22
  and
• 39:23
  people.
• 39:24
  So
• 39:24
  I
• 39:24
  feel
• 39:24
  like
• 39:25
  that
• 39:25
  really
• 39:26
  what
• 39:26
  this
• 39:27
  poem
• 39:27
  is
• 39:27
  about
• 39:28
  is
• 39:29
  the
• 39:29
  lack
• 39:29
  of
• 39:29
  trust
• 39:30
  that
• 39:31
  everyone
• 39:31
  has
• 39:32
  for
• 39:32
  each
• 39:32
  other.
• 39:33
  And
• 39:33
  then
• 39:33
  when
• 39:34
  it
• 39:34
  comes
• 39:34
  down
• 39:35
  to
• 39:35
  the
• 39:35
  judicial
• 39:36
  system,
• 39:36
  it's
• 39:37
  really
• 39:37
  a
• 39:37
  lack
• 39:38
  of
• 39:39
  care
• 39:39
  for
• 39:40
  the
• 39:40
  person
• 39:41
  committing
• 39:41
  the
• 39:41
  crime.
• 39:44
  Just
• 39:44
  everything
• 39:44
  that
• 39:45
  lawyers
• 39:45
  have
• 39:46
  to
• 39:46
  do
• 39:46
  in
• 39:46
  order
• 39:46
  to
• 39:47
  prepare
• 39:48
  to
• 39:48
  share
• 39:48
  their
• 39:49
  story
• 39:50
  so
• 39:50
  that
• 39:50
  people
• 39:51
  can
• 39:52
  sway
• 39:53
  to
• 39:53
  whichever
• 39:54
  story
• 39:54
  they
• 39:54
  feel
• 39:54
  makes
• 39:55
  more
• 39:55
  sense.
• 39:56
  I
• 39:56
  feel
• 39:56
  like
• 39:57
  this
• 39:57
  has
• 39:57
  been
• 39:57
  a
• 39:58
  long
• 39:59
  history
• 40:00
  of
• 40:00
  this,
• 40:01
  of
• 40:01
  just
• 40:02
  people
• 40:03
  just
• 40:03
  trying
• 40:04
  to
• 40:04
  look
• 40:05
  out
• 40:05
  for
• 40:05
  themselves
• 40:06
  instead
• 40:07
  of
• 40:07
  caring
• 40:08
  for
• 40:08
  those
• 40:08
  below
• 40:09
  them.
• 40:09
  So
• 40:10
  far
• 40:10
  as
• 40:10
  the
• 40:10
  judicial
• 40:11
  system
• 40:11
  goes,
• 40:11
  they
• 40:12
  don't
• 40:12
  really
• 40:12
  care
• 40:12
  about
• 40:13
  mental
• 40:13
  health.
• 40:14
  They
• 40:14
  care
• 40:14
  about,
• 40:15
  you
• 40:15
  know,
• 40:15
  how
• 40:15
  many
• 40:16
  people
• 40:16
  can
• 40:16
  we
• 40:16
  put
• 40:17
  away
• 40:17
  in
• 40:18
  jail?
• 40:18
  Or
• 40:19
  how
• 40:19
  many.
• 40:20
  How
• 40:20
  much
• 40:20
  money
• 40:20
  can
• 40:21
  we
• 40:21
  make
• 40:21
  from
• 40:22
  this?
• 40:22
  So
• 40:23
  those
• 40:23
  are
• 40:23
  some
• 40:23
  of
• 40:24
  the
• 40:24
  ideas
• 40:24
  behind
• 40:24
  this
• 40:25
  poem?
• 40:25
  Yeah,
• 40:25
  absolutely.
• 40:26
  No,
• 40:26
  and
• 40:28
  I
• 40:29
  think
• 40:29
  that
• 40:29
  the
• 40:29
  poem
• 40:30
  was
• 40:30
  written
• 40:31
  very
• 40:31
  well,
• 40:31
  and
• 40:31
  I
• 40:31
  think
• 40:32
  it
• 40:32
  expressed
• 40:32
  that
• 40:33
  very
• 40:33
  well.
• 40:34
  And
• 40:36
  I
• 40:36
  am
• 40:36
  a
• 40:36
  firm
• 40:36
  believer
• 40:37
  that
• 40:38
  there
• 40:38
  is
• 40:38
  no
• 40:38
  one
• 40:39
  that
• 40:39
  is
• 40:39
  a
• 40:39
  criminal
• 40:39
  because
• 40:40
  they
• 40:40
  just
• 40:40
  want
• 40:40
  to
• 40:40
  be
• 40:40
  a
• 40:41
  criminal.
• 40:41
  There's
• 40:41
  nobody
• 40:42
  that.
• 40:42
  That.
• 40:42
  That
• 40:43
  is
• 40:43
  committing
• 40:43
  crimes
• 40:44
  against.
• 40:45
  Whether
• 40:45
  it's
• 40:46
  an
• 40:46
  institution
• 40:47
  or
• 40:47
  someone
• 40:47
  committing
• 40:48
  crimes
• 40:48
  against
• 40:48
  their
• 40:49
  neighbors.
• 40:49
  They
• 40:49
  aren't.
• 40:50
  No
• 40:50
  one
• 40:51
  does
• 40:51
  it
• 40:51
  just
• 40:51
  out
• 40:52
  of
• 40:52
  this
• 40:52
  desire
• 40:53
  to
• 40:53
  cause
• 40:54
  harm.
• 40:54
  I
• 40:54
  mean,
• 40:54
  we
• 40:55
  do
• 40:55
  have
• 40:55
  sociopaths,
• 40:56
  but
• 40:56
  I
• 40:56
  think
• 40:57
  that
• 40:57
  for
• 40:57
  the
• 40:57
  most
• 40:57
  part,
• 40:58
  most
• 40:58
  people
• 40:59
  that
• 40:59
  are
• 40:59
  convicted
• 40:59
  of
• 40:59
  a
• 41:00
  crime
• 41:00
  because
• 41:00
  they
• 41:01
  were
• 41:01
  found
• 41:01
  guilty
• 41:02
  of
• 41:02
  whatever
• 41:02
  it
• 41:03
  is
• 41:03
  they're
• 41:03
  charged
• 41:03
  with,
• 41:04
  it's
• 41:05
  purely
• 41:05
  out
• 41:05
  of
• 41:05
  necessity
• 41:06
  that.
• 41:07
  Because
• 41:08
  here
• 41:08
  in
• 41:09
  the
• 41:09
  United
• 41:09
  States,
• 41:09
  and
• 41:10
  it
• 41:10
  happens
• 41:10
  in
• 41:10
  other
• 41:11
  countries
• 41:11
  as
• 41:11
  well,
• 41:11
  but
• 41:12
  here
• 41:12
  in
• 41:12
  the
• 41:12
  United
• 41:12
  States,
• 41:13
  we
• 41:13
  have
• 41:14
  a
• 41:14
  social
• 41:14
  structure
• 41:15
  that
• 41:15
  really,
• 41:17
  it
• 41:18
  doesn't
• 41:18
  provide
• 41:20
  enough.
• 41:20
  Either
• 41:21
  it's
• 41:21
  an
• 41:21
  education,
• 41:22
  or
• 41:22
  it
• 41:23
  is
• 41:23
  the
• 41:23
  social
• 41:24
  net
• 41:24
  or,
• 41:25
  you
• 41:25
  know,
• 41:25
  the
• 41:27
  socioeconomic
• 41:28
  net
• 41:29
  that
• 41:29
  is
• 41:29
  absolutely
• 41:30
  necessary.
• 41:30
  We
• 41:30
  have
• 41:31
  such
• 41:31
  a
• 41:31
  difference
• 41:32
  in
• 41:33
  what
• 41:34
  it
• 41:34
  is
• 41:34
  that
• 41:35
  people's
• 41:35
  value
• 41:36
  is,
• 41:36
  you
• 41:36
  know,
• 41:37
  like
• 41:37
  the
• 41:37
  poor
• 41:38
  and
• 41:38
  the
• 41:38
  poverty
• 41:39
  and
• 41:39
  middle
• 41:39
  class
• 41:39
  and
• 41:40
  then.
• 41:40
  And
• 41:40
  then
• 41:40
  upper
• 41:41
  class,
• 41:41
  you
• 41:42
  know,
• 41:42
  but
• 41:42
  we
• 41:42
  see
• 41:42
  criminals
• 41:43
  in
• 41:43
  the
• 41:43
  upper
• 41:43
  class,
• 41:43
  too.
• 41:44
  You
• 41:44
  know,
• 41:45
  I
• 41:45
  mean,
• 41:45
  just.
• 41:45
  Just
• 41:46
  today,
• 41:46
  a
• 41:46
  very
• 41:47
  popular
• 41:47
  television
• 41:48
  show
• 41:48
  that
• 41:48
  I
• 41:48
  watched
• 41:49
  for
• 41:49
  several
• 41:50
  years
• 41:51
  with,
• 41:52
  with
• 41:52
  Todd
• 41:53
  and
• 41:53
  his
• 41:53
  wife,
• 41:54
  the
• 41:54
  Chrisleys.
• 41:55
  They
• 41:56
  were
• 41:56
  pardoned
• 41:56
  by
• 41:57
  President
• 41:57
  Trump
• 41:57
  yesterday
• 41:58
  for
• 41:59
  bank
• 41:59
  fraud
• 41:59
  and
• 41:59
  tax
• 42:00
  evasion.
• 42:00
  And
• 42:00
  I
• 42:00
  think
• 42:01
  to
• 42:01
  myself,
• 42:01
  why?
• 42:02
  $30
• 42:02
  million?
• 42:03
  Yeah,
• 42:03
  why?
• 42:03
  Why
• 42:04
  would
• 42:04
  he
• 42:05
  why
• 42:05
  would
• 42:05
  he
• 42:06
  pardon
• 42:07
  these
• 42:07
  people
• 42:08
  for
• 42:08
  what
• 42:08
  they
• 42:08
  did?
• 42:08
  And
• 42:08
  then
• 42:08
  I
• 42:09
  think
• 42:09
  about
• 42:09
  it
• 42:09
  as
• 42:09
  like,
• 42:09
  well,
• 42:10
  he's
• 42:10
  been
• 42:11
  accused
• 42:11
  of
• 42:11
  both
• 42:12
  of
• 42:12
  those
• 42:12
  things
• 42:13
  and
• 42:13
  we
• 42:13
  know
• 42:14
  that
• 42:14
  he's
• 42:14
  done,
• 42:14
  he's
• 42:15
  had,
• 42:15
  he's
• 42:15
  done
• 42:15
  bank
• 42:16
  fraud
• 42:16
  because
• 42:16
  of
• 42:17
  his
• 42:17
  filings
• 42:17
  with
• 42:17
  the
• 42:18
  fec.
• 42:19
  So,
• 42:20
  yeah,
• 42:20
  I
• 42:20
  guess
• 42:20
  it
• 42:20
  kind
• 42:21
  of
• 42:21
  makes
• 42:21
  sense
• 42:21
  that
• 42:21
  if
• 42:21
  there's
• 42:22
  somebody
• 42:22
  out
• 42:22
  there
• 42:22
  that's
• 42:23
  committed
• 42:23
  the
• 42:23
  same
• 42:23
  sort
• 42:24
  of
• 42:24
  crimes
• 42:24
  that
• 42:24
  he
• 42:24
  would
• 42:25
  potentially
• 42:25
  pardon
• 42:25
  him
• 42:26
  just
• 42:26
  because
• 42:26
  they
• 42:26
  say
• 42:27
  they
• 42:27
  like
• 42:27
  him.
• 42:28
  He
• 42:29
  pardoned
• 42:29
  a
• 42:30
  sheriff
• 42:30
  or
• 42:30
  a
• 42:30
  sheriff's
• 42:31
  deputy
• 42:31
  in
• 42:31
  Virginia
• 42:32
  yesterday.
• 42:33
  That
• 42:33
  is
• 42:33
  that
• 42:34
  he
• 42:34
  pardoned
• 42:34
  the,
• 42:35
  that
• 42:35
  insurance
• 42:36
  guy.
• 42:36
  Yeah,
• 42:37
  like,
• 42:37
  but
• 42:38
  who
• 42:38
  was
• 42:38
  it?
• 42:38
  He
• 42:38
  like
• 42:39
  withheld
• 42:40
  $7.3
• 42:41
  million
• 42:42
  of
• 42:42
  the
• 42:42
  Social
• 42:42
  Security.
• 42:43
  Yeah,
• 42:43
  yeah.
• 42:44
  And
• 42:44
  then
• 42:44
  he
• 42:44
  just
• 42:45
  like
• 42:45
  had
• 42:45
  a
• 42:46
  million
• 42:46
  dollar
• 42:46
  dinner
• 42:47
  with
• 42:47
  his
• 42:47
  wife
• 42:47
  or
• 42:47
  something
• 42:48
  and
• 42:48
  pardoned
• 42:48
  him.
• 42:49
  But
• 42:49
  I
• 42:49
  am,
• 42:50
  I
• 42:50
  am
• 42:50
  a
• 42:50
  firm
• 42:51
  believer
• 42:51
  of
• 42:52
  the,
• 42:52
  the
• 42:53
  idea
• 42:53
  that
• 42:53
  that
• 42:54
  and
• 42:56
  we
• 42:56
  don't
• 42:56
  have
• 42:56
  a
• 42:56
  system
• 42:58
  that
• 42:58
  really
• 42:59
  prevents
• 43:00
  crime.
• 43:00
  We
• 43:00
  have
• 43:01
  a
• 43:01
  system
• 43:01
  that
• 43:01
  really
• 43:02
  sort
• 43:02
  of
• 43:02
  encourages
• 43:03
  people
• 43:04
  to
• 43:04
  fight
• 43:06
  out
• 43:06
  of
• 43:06
  necessity.
• 43:07
  And
• 43:08
  sometimes
• 43:09
  in
• 43:09
  those
• 43:09
  situations
• 43:10
  it's
• 43:10
  taking.
• 43:10
  So
• 43:12
  while
• 43:12
  I
• 43:13
  would
• 43:13
  prefer
• 43:14
  that
• 43:14
  they
• 43:14
  not
• 43:14
  commit
• 43:15
  crimes,
• 43:16
  I
• 43:16
  certainly
• 43:17
  think
• 43:17
  that
• 43:17
  the
• 43:18
  system
• 43:18
  should
• 43:18
  be
• 43:19
  better
• 43:19
  to
• 43:19
  try
• 43:19
  and
• 43:19
  prevent
• 43:20
  those
• 43:20
  crimes.
• 43:21
  If
• 43:21
  we
• 43:21
  could
• 43:21
  have
• 43:22
  a
• 43:22
  system
• 43:22
  that,
• 43:23
  that
• 43:23
  builds
• 43:24
  people
• 43:24
  up
• 43:25
  out
• 43:25
  of
• 43:25
  poverty,
• 43:26
  that
• 43:26
  helps,
• 43:26
  you
• 43:26
  know,
• 43:27
  that
• 43:27
  helps
• 43:27
  people
• 43:29
  take
• 43:29
  care
• 43:30
  of
• 43:30
  their
• 43:30
  families
• 43:31
  and
• 43:31
  their
• 43:31
  children,
• 43:32
  that
• 43:32
  other
• 43:32
  countries
• 43:33
  do
• 43:33
  it
• 43:33
  and
• 43:33
  they're
• 43:33
  not
• 43:34
  nearly
• 43:34
  as
• 43:34
  wealthy
• 43:34
  as
• 43:35
  our
• 43:35
  country.
• 43:36
  So
• 43:38
  I
• 43:38
  think
• 43:38
  that's
• 43:39
  fantastic.
• 43:39
  You
• 43:40
  have.
• 43:41
  Before
• 43:42
  we
• 43:42
  start
• 43:42
  wrap
• 43:43
  this
• 43:43
  up,
• 43:43
  I
• 43:44
  did
• 43:44
  want
• 43:44
  to
• 43:45
  ask
• 43:45
  about
• 43:45
  Coffee
• 43:46
  runs
• 43:46
  through
• 43:47
  my
• 43:47
  lineage.
• 43:48
  This
• 43:49
  one,
• 43:50
  I'm
• 43:50
  not
• 43:50
  sure
• 43:50
  if
• 43:51
  you
• 43:51
  have
• 43:51
  access
• 43:51
  to
• 43:52
  that
• 43:52
  one
• 43:52
  in
• 43:52
  front
• 43:52
  of
• 43:53
  you,
• 43:53
  but
• 43:54
  I
• 43:54
  am
• 43:54
  very
• 43:54
  interested
• 43:55
  in
• 43:55
  this
• 43:55
  one.
• 43:57
  It's.
• 43:57
  It
• 43:57
  was
• 43:58
  in
• 43:58
  the
• 43:58
  Northern
• 43:59
  New
• 43:59
  England
• 43:59
  Review.
• 44:01
  And.
• 44:02
  And
• 44:03
  is
• 44:03
  it,
• 44:04
  is
• 44:04
  it
• 44:04
  out
• 44:05
  of
• 44:05
  heritage?
• 44:05
  Is
• 44:06
  this
• 44:07
  because,
• 44:07
  you
• 44:08
  know,
• 44:08
  you
• 44:09
  were
• 44:09
  born
• 44:09
  and
• 44:09
  raised
• 44:09
  in
• 44:10
  the
• 44:10
  Bronx,
• 44:10
  but
• 44:10
  obviously
• 44:11
  your
• 44:12
  family
• 44:12
  is.
• 44:13
  Is
• 44:13
  not
• 44:13
  necessarily
• 44:15
  a
• 44:16
  New
• 44:16
  England
• 44:17
  New
• 44:17
  York
• 44:17
  family.
• 44:18
  Family.
• 44:18
  So
• 44:19
  how
• 44:19
  is.
• 44:19
  What
• 44:19
  is
• 44:20
  a
• 44:20
  coffee
• 44:20
  runs
• 44:20
  through
• 44:21
  my
• 44:21
  lineage?
• 44:21
  I'm
• 44:21
  curious.
• 44:22
  Yeah,
• 44:22
  so
• 44:23
  let
• 44:23
  me
• 44:23
  pull
• 44:24
  it
• 44:24
  up.
• 44:24
  The
• 44:25
  pink
• 44:25
  and
• 44:25
  orange
• 44:26
  halo
• 44:26
  sign
• 44:27
  still
• 44:27
  gleam
• 44:28
  on
• 44:28
  frosted
• 44:29
  roofs
• 44:29
  where
• 44:30
  morning
• 44:30
  breath
• 44:31
  collects.
• 44:32
  We've
• 44:32
  built
• 44:32
  religion
• 44:33
  on
• 44:33
  caffeine
• 44:34
  and
• 44:34
  cream.
• 44:35
  We
• 44:35
  sip
• 44:36
  a
• 44:36
  right
• 44:37
  that
• 44:37
  ancestry
• 44:38
  respects.
• 44:39
  My
• 44:39
  mother's
• 44:40
  voice
• 44:41
  came
• 44:41
  steep
• 44:42
  in
• 44:42
  caramel
• 44:43
  My
• 44:44
  father
• 44:44
  drove
• 44:44
  with
• 44:45
  one
• 44:45
  hand
• 44:45
  on
• 44:46
  his
• 44:46
  cup.
• 44:47
  A
• 44:48
  drive
• 44:48
  through
• 44:48
  priestess
• 44:49
  knew
• 44:49
  our
• 44:50
  name
• 44:50
  so
• 44:50
  well
• 44:51
  she
• 44:51
  blessed
• 44:52
  the
• 44:52
  lid
• 44:52
  before
• 44:53
  we
• 44:53
  pulled
• 44:53
  it
• 44:53
  up.
• 44:55
  No
• 44:55
  siren
• 44:56
  song,
• 44:56
  no
• 44:57
  beings
• 44:58
  from
• 44:58
  distant
• 44:59
  lands
• 44:59
  can
• 45:00
  match
• 45:00
  the
• 45:00
  comfort
• 45:01
  of
• 45:01
  this
• 45:01
  waxen
• 45:02
  gold.
• 45:03
  We
• 45:03
  live
• 45:04
  and
• 45:04
  die
• 45:04
  with
• 45:05
  coffee
• 45:05
  in
• 45:05
  our
• 45:05
  hands
• 45:06
  and
• 45:06
  generations
• 45:07
  passed
• 45:08
  before
• 45:08
  it
• 45:08
  cooled.
• 45:10
  You'll
• 45:10
  find
• 45:10
  us
• 45:10
  Here
• 45:11
  through
• 45:11
  war,
• 45:12
  through
• 45:12
  storm,
• 45:13
  through
• 45:13
  rust,
• 45:13
  a
• 45:14
  powdered
• 45:14
  donut
• 45:15
  nation
• 45:15
  built
• 45:16
  on
• 45:16
  trust.
• 45:18
  So,
• 45:18
  yeah,
• 45:19
  this
• 45:19
  story
• 45:19
  or
• 45:20
  this
• 45:20
  poem
• 45:21
  comes
• 45:22
  from
• 45:23
  our
• 45:23
  family's
• 45:24
  love
• 45:24
  for
• 45:24
  coffee.
• 45:26
  It's
• 45:26
  the
• 45:27
  reflective
• 45:27
  narrative
• 45:28
  almost
• 45:28
  of
• 45:29
  how
• 45:30
  coffee
• 45:30
  is
• 45:31
  more
• 45:31
  than
• 45:31
  just
• 45:31
  a
• 45:31
  drink
• 45:32
  for
• 45:32
  us.
• 45:32
  It's
• 45:32
  the
• 45:33
  time
• 45:33
  for
• 45:33
  our
• 45:33
  family
• 45:34
  to
• 45:34
  connect
• 45:35
  with
• 45:35
  one
• 45:35
  another.
• 45:37
  Whether
• 45:37
  we're
• 45:37
  drinking
• 45:38
  coffee
• 45:38
  at
• 45:38
  home
• 45:39
  or
• 45:39
  coffee
• 45:40
  on
• 45:40
  the
• 45:40
  go.
• 45:41
  As
• 45:42
  this
• 45:42
  poem
• 45:42
  speaks,
• 45:44
  it's
• 45:44
  always
• 45:44
  a
• 45:45
  moment
• 45:45
  where
• 45:45
  we
• 45:45
  can
• 45:46
  just
• 45:46
  talk
• 45:47
  and
• 45:47
  reflect
• 45:48
  on
• 45:48
  our
• 45:49
  family.
• 45:50
  Anything
• 45:50
  that
• 45:51
  is
• 45:51
  either
• 45:51
  in
• 45:52
  disagreement
• 45:52
  with
• 45:53
  each
• 45:53
  other
• 45:53
  or
• 45:53
  agreement.
• 45:54
  A
• 45:55
  time
• 45:55
  for
• 45:55
  coffee
• 45:56
  or
• 45:56
  a
• 45:56
  time
• 45:56
  for
• 45:56
  tea
• 45:57
  is
• 45:57
  always
• 45:58
  a
• 45:58
  great
• 45:59
  time
• 45:59
  for
• 46:00
  me
• 46:00
  and
• 46:01
  my
• 46:01
  family.
• 46:01
  Coming
• 46:02
  up,
• 46:02
  I
• 46:02
  think
• 46:03
  the
• 46:03
  appropriate
• 46:03
  follow
• 46:04
  up
• 46:04
  question
• 46:04
  is
• 46:04
  how
• 46:05
  do
• 46:05
  you
• 46:05
  take
• 46:05
  your
• 46:05
  coffee?
• 46:06
  Well,
• 46:06
  I
• 46:06
  don't
• 46:07
  drink
• 46:07
  coffee
• 46:08
  as
• 46:08
  much
• 46:08
  now
• 46:09
  as
• 46:09
  I'm
• 46:09
  older
• 46:10
  and
• 46:11
  neither
• 46:11
  do
• 46:12
  any
• 46:12
  of
• 46:12
  my
• 46:12
  family
• 46:13
  members.
• 46:13
  We're
• 46:14
  on
• 46:14
  this
• 46:14
  whole
• 46:14
  like
• 46:15
  Matcha.
• 46:19
  Not
• 46:19
  the
• 46:19
  South.
• 46:21
  We're
• 46:21
  on
• 46:21
  this
• 46:22
  Matcha
• 46:23
  thing
• 46:23
  now.
• 46:23
  So
• 46:24
  it's
• 46:25
  just.
• 46:25
  But,
• 46:26
  well,
• 46:26
  we
• 46:27
  did
• 46:27
  used
• 46:27
  to
• 46:27
  love
• 46:27
  it
• 46:28
  black
• 46:28
  with
• 46:28
  a
• 46:28
  little
• 46:29
  sugar.
• 46:29
  And
• 46:30
  that's
• 46:30
  it.
• 46:30
  Yep.
• 46:31
  Yeah,
• 46:31
  that's
• 46:32
  how,
• 46:32
  that's
• 46:32
  how
• 46:32
  I
• 46:32
  take
• 46:33
  mine.
• 46:33
  Black
• 46:33
  with
• 46:34
  artificial
• 46:35
  flavoring.
• 46:35
  So
• 46:35
  I'm
• 46:36
  going
• 46:36
  to
• 46:36
  get
• 46:36
  cancer,
• 46:36
  I'm
• 46:36
  sure,
• 46:37
  but
• 46:37
  that's,
• 46:38
  that's
• 46:38
  how
• 46:38
  I
• 46:38
  drink
• 46:38
  mine.
• 46:38
  Bill,
• 46:39
  how
• 46:39
  do
• 46:39
  you,
• 46:39
  how
• 46:40
  do
• 46:40
  you
• 46:40
  take
• 46:40
  your
• 46:40
  coffee?
• 46:41
  Straight
• 46:41
  black.
• 46:41
  Straight
• 46:42
  black.
• 46:42
  I
• 46:42
  don't.
• 46:43
  Just
• 46:43
  straight
• 46:43
  black.
• 46:43
  Nothing
• 46:44
  else
• 46:44
  in
• 46:44
  it.
• 46:44
  Straight
• 46:44
  black
• 46:45
  coffee.
• 46:45
  So,
• 46:46
  so
• 46:46
  then,
• 46:46
  then,
• 46:46
  Bill,
• 46:47
  the
• 46:47
  question
• 46:47
  is,
• 46:47
  is
• 46:48
  it
• 46:48
  a
• 46:48
  medium
• 46:48
  roast?
• 46:49
  Is
• 46:49
  it
• 46:49
  a
• 46:49
  dark
• 46:49
  roast?
• 46:51
  Dark
• 46:51
  roast.
• 46:51
  I
• 46:52
  have
• 46:52
  a
• 46:52
  question.
• 46:53
  So
• 46:53
  if
• 46:53
  you
• 46:53
  guys
• 46:54
  were
• 46:55
  stranded
• 46:55
  on
• 46:55
  an
• 46:55
  island
• 46:56
  and
• 46:57
  somehow
• 46:57
  had
• 46:59
  Wi
• 46:59
  Fi,
• 47:01
  what
• 47:01
  apps
• 47:02
  or
• 47:02
  what
• 47:02
  three
• 47:02
  apps
• 47:03
  would
• 47:03
  you
• 47:04
  keep
• 47:04
  in
• 47:04
  order
• 47:05
  to
• 47:05
  survive?
• 47:06
  My
• 47:07
  gosh.
• 47:07
  To
• 47:08
  survive.
• 47:08
  Bill,
• 47:09
  I'll
• 47:09
  let
• 47:09
  you
• 47:09
  go
• 47:09
  first.
• 47:10
  Well,
• 47:10
  I
• 47:10
  tell
• 47:10
  you
• 47:10
  what,
• 47:10
  Bill,
• 47:11
  you
• 47:11
  name
• 47:11
  your
• 47:11
  first
• 47:11
  one,
• 47:12
  I'll
• 47:12
  name
• 47:12
  my
• 47:12
  first
• 47:12
  one.
• 47:13
  That's
• 47:13
  how
• 47:13
  we'll
• 47:13
  do
• 47:13
  that.
• 47:14
  Order
• 47:15
  in
• 47:15
  order
• 47:16
  to
• 47:16
  survive.
• 47:17
  Am
• 47:18
  I
• 47:18
  trying.
• 47:18
  Can
• 47:18
  I
• 47:19
  contact
• 47:19
  someone
• 47:20
  if
• 47:20
  I
• 47:20
  have
• 47:20
  an
• 47:20
  app?
• 47:21
  Well,
• 47:21
  you're
• 47:21
  stranded.
• 47:22
  I
• 47:22
  don't.
• 47:23
  But
• 47:23
  if
• 47:24
  I
• 47:24
  have
• 47:24
  WI
• 47:24
  fi
• 47:25
  without
• 47:25
  wi
• 47:26
  fi.
• 47:26
  No,
• 47:26
  no.
• 47:28
  With
• 47:28
  or
• 47:28
  without
• 47:28
  WI
• 47:29
  fi,
• 47:29
  Joel?
• 47:29
  I
• 47:30
  guess
• 47:30
  that's
• 47:30
  easier
• 47:30
  with
• 47:31
  Wi
• 47:31
  fi.
• 47:32
  Okay,
• 47:32
  so
• 47:32
  you
• 47:32
  have
• 47:32
  WI
• 47:33
  Fi.
• 47:33
  But
• 47:33
  let's,
• 47:33
  let's,
• 47:34
  let's
• 47:35
  assume,
• 47:35
  let's
• 47:35
  assume
• 47:35
  that
• 47:36
  the
• 47:36
  outside
• 47:36
  world
• 47:36
  is
• 47:37
  not
• 47:37
  available.
• 47:38
  So
• 47:38
  far.
• 47:39
  You
• 47:39
  can't
• 47:39
  contact
• 47:39
  me
• 47:39
  as
• 47:39
  far
• 47:40
  as
• 47:40
  like,
• 47:40
  you
• 47:40
  know.
• 47:41
  You
• 47:41
  can't.
• 47:41
  Yeah,
• 47:41
  you
• 47:41
  can't.
• 47:42
  Yeah,
• 47:42
  it's
• 47:43
  not
• 47:43
  like
• 47:43
  I
• 47:43
  could
• 47:43
  just
• 47:43
  have
• 47:44
  WhatsApp
• 47:44
  or
• 47:44
  something
• 47:45
  and
• 47:45
  contact
• 47:45
  anybody.
• 47:46
  Right?
• 47:46
  You're
• 47:46
  on
• 47:46
  a
• 47:47
  local
• 47:47
  network,
• 47:47
  sir.
• 47:48
  There's
• 47:49
  no
• 47:49
  outside
• 47:49
  for
• 47:50
  survival.
• 47:51
  I
• 47:51
  mean,
• 47:51
  I'm
• 47:52
  gonna.
• 47:52
  I
• 47:53
  feel
• 47:53
  like
• 47:53
  I
• 47:53
  would
• 47:53
  have
• 47:53
  to
• 47:53
  download
• 47:54
  a
• 47:54
  lot
• 47:54
  of
• 47:54
  music.
• 47:54
  Okay.
• 47:55
  I
• 47:55
  would
• 47:55
  need
• 47:55
  a
• 47:55
  lot
• 47:56
  of
• 47:56
  music.
• 47:56
  Music
• 47:57
  app.
• 47:58
  I
• 47:58
  think
• 48:00
  if
• 48:00
  I'm
• 48:01
  stranded
• 48:01
  on
• 48:01
  a
• 48:01
  desert
• 48:01
  island,
• 48:02
  I
• 48:02
  think
• 48:02
  the
• 48:02
  first
• 48:03
  app
• 48:03
  that
• 48:03
  I
• 48:03
  would
• 48:03
  want
• 48:03
  to
• 48:04
  make
• 48:04
  sure
• 48:04
  that
• 48:04
  I
• 48:04
  had
• 48:04
  would
• 48:05
  be
• 48:06
  like
• 48:07
  not
• 48:09
  Kindle,
• 48:09
  like
• 48:10
  the
• 48:10
  Kindle
• 48:10
  app
• 48:10
  on
• 48:10
  my
• 48:11
  phone.
• 48:11
  So
• 48:11
  I'd
• 48:11
  be
• 48:11
  able
• 48:11
  to.
• 48:12
  I'd
• 48:12
  still
• 48:12
  be
• 48:12
  able
• 48:12
  to
• 48:13
  read
• 48:13
  books
• 48:13
  and
• 48:14
  I'd
• 48:15
  have
• 48:15
  the
• 48:15
  ability
• 48:15
  to
• 48:15
  entertain
• 48:16
  myself
• 48:16
  that
• 48:16
  way.
• 48:18
  Maybe
• 48:18
  a
• 48:19
  little
• 48:19
  book
• 48:19
  on.
• 48:19
  Instruction
• 48:20
  manual
• 48:21
  on
• 48:22
  how
• 48:22
  to
• 48:22
  build
• 48:22
  a
• 48:22
  shelter
• 48:23
  or
• 48:24
  how
• 48:24
  to
• 48:24
  build
• 48:25
  a
• 48:25
  fire,
• 48:26
  how
• 48:26
  to
• 48:26
  fish.
• 48:27
  That
• 48:27
  would.
• 48:27
  Those
• 48:27
  would
• 48:27
  be.
• 48:27
  That's
• 48:28
  what
• 48:28
  I
• 48:28
  was
• 48:28
  thinking.
• 48:28
  I
• 48:29
  was
• 48:29
  thinking
• 48:29
  more
• 48:29
  so
• 48:30
  apps
• 48:30
  for
• 48:30
  like
• 48:32
  life
• 48:32
  saving
• 48:33
  skills.
• 48:33
  I
• 48:34
  don't
• 48:34
  know,
• 48:35
  but
• 48:36
  Instagram
• 48:36
  is
• 48:36
  not
• 48:37
  going
• 48:37
  to
• 48:37
  help.
• 48:37
  Yeah,
• 48:38
  that's
• 48:38
  a
• 48:38
  good
• 48:38
  idea.
• 48:39
  WikiHow.
• 48:39
  That
• 48:40
  would
• 48:40
  work.
• 48:40
  Yeah,
• 48:40
  yeah,
• 48:41
  WikiHow
• 48:42
  would
• 48:42
  probably.
• 48:43
  WikiHow
• 48:43
  has
• 48:44
  an
• 48:44
  apple.
• 48:44
  They
• 48:45
  could
• 48:45
  probably
• 48:46
  tell
• 48:46
  me
• 48:47
  how
• 48:47
  to
• 48:47
  do
• 48:47
  everything
• 48:47
  I
• 48:47
  need
• 48:48
  to
• 48:48
  do.
• 48:48
  All
• 48:48
  right,
• 48:49
  so
• 48:49
  Is
• 48:49
  that
• 48:50
  your
• 48:50
  second
• 48:50
  app?
• 48:50
  You
• 48:50
  need
• 48:51
  your
• 48:51
  wikiHow?
• 48:52
  Yeah,
• 48:52
  wiki.
• 48:53
  I'd
• 48:54
  have
• 48:54
  access
• 48:54
  to
• 48:55
  all
• 48:55
  human
• 48:55
  knowledge.
• 48:56
  Ooh,
• 48:57
  okay.
• 48:59
  That's
• 49:00
  a
• 49:00
  tough
• 49:00
  one
• 49:00
  to
• 49:00
  follow.
• 49:02
  I
• 49:02
  think
• 49:02
  that
• 49:02
  I
• 49:03
  would
• 49:03
  still
• 49:04
  want.
• 49:05
  Because
• 49:05
  there's
• 49:06
  always
• 49:06
  the
• 49:06
  possibility
• 49:06
  that
• 49:07
  if
• 49:08
  I've
• 49:08
  been
• 49:08
  here
• 49:08
  long
• 49:09
  enough
• 49:09
  that
• 49:09
  after
• 49:09
  I've
• 49:10
  expired
• 49:10
  that
• 49:11
  someone
• 49:11
  will
• 49:11
  find
• 49:11
  my
• 49:12
  phone.
• 49:13
  I
• 49:13
  think
• 49:13
  that
• 49:14
  I
• 49:14
  would
• 49:14
  probably
• 49:14
  like
• 49:14
  to
• 49:14
  have
• 49:15
  a
• 49:15
  voice
• 49:15
  record,
• 49:15
  the
• 49:16
  voice
• 49:16
  recording
• 49:16
  app
• 49:17
  so
• 49:17
  that,
• 49:18
  so
• 49:18
  that
• 49:18
  my
• 49:19
  thoughts
• 49:19
  can
• 49:19
  be.
• 49:19
  I
• 49:20
  can
• 49:20
  record
• 49:20
  my
• 49:20
  thoughts
• 49:21
  so
• 49:21
  that
• 49:21
  somebody
• 49:21
  could
• 49:21
  potentially
• 49:22
  use
• 49:22
  those
• 49:22
  for,
• 49:23
  you
• 49:23
  know,
• 49:24
  the
• 49:24
  good
• 49:24
  of
• 49:24
  all
• 49:24
  mankind
• 49:25
  later
• 49:25
  on.
• 49:25
  I
• 49:26
  have
• 49:26
  zero
• 49:26
  ego.
• 49:27
  You're
• 49:27
  not
• 49:27
  doing,
• 49:28
  you're
• 49:28
  not
• 49:28
  doing
• 49:28
  camera
• 49:29
  or
• 49:29
  video.
• 49:29
  You're
• 49:29
  just
• 49:29
  doing
• 49:30
  straight
• 49:30
  voice.
• 49:31
  This,
• 49:33
  this
• 49:33
  face
• 49:33
  was
• 49:34
  made
• 49:34
  for
• 49:34
  radio,
• 49:34
  sir.
• 49:36
  I
• 49:36
  see,
• 49:37
  I
• 49:37
  see.
• 49:38
  What's
• 49:38
  your,
• 49:39
  what's
• 49:39
  your
• 49:39
  third
• 49:39
  ad
• 49:39
  there,
• 49:39
  Bill?
• 49:41
  I
• 49:41
  think
• 49:41
  camera.
• 49:42
  Camera
• 49:42
  would
• 49:42
  have
• 49:42
  to
• 49:42
  be
• 49:42
  it
• 49:43
  because
• 49:43
  then
• 49:43
  I
• 49:43
  can
• 49:44
  like,
• 49:44
  if
• 49:45
  I'm
• 49:45
  describing
• 49:45
  something,
• 49:45
  I'm
• 49:46
  just
• 49:46
  like,
• 49:46
  yeah,
• 49:46
  there
• 49:46
  was
• 49:46
  this
• 49:47
  thing
• 49:47
  that
• 49:47
  happened
• 49:47
  to
• 49:47
  me.
• 49:48
  Check
• 49:48
  it
• 49:49
  out
• 49:49
  and
• 49:49
  then
• 49:49
  I
• 49:49
  can
• 49:49
  flip
• 49:50
  it
• 49:50
  and
• 49:50
  show
• 49:51
  like,
• 49:52
  or
• 49:52
  create.
• 49:52
  Videos
• 49:53
  and
• 49:53
  something
• 49:53
  happening.
• 49:54
  I
• 49:54
  don't
• 49:54
  know
• 49:54
  what
• 49:54
  it
• 49:54
  would
• 49:55
  be.
• 49:55
  No,
• 49:56
  go
• 49:56
  ahead.
• 49:56
  I
• 49:56
  don't
• 49:56
  know.
• 49:57
  I
• 49:57
  guess
• 49:57
  I
• 49:57
  would
• 49:57
  just
• 49:57
  be
• 49:57
  like,
• 49:57
  man,
• 49:58
  check
• 49:58
  out
• 49:58
  this
• 49:58
  animal
• 49:59
  I
• 49:59
  found
• 49:59
  out
• 49:59
  here.
• 49:59
  Could
• 49:59
  turn
• 50:00
  it
• 50:00
  to
• 50:00
  a
• 50:00
  whole
• 50:00
  documentary.
• 50:01
  After
• 50:01
  like
• 50:02
  a
• 50:02
  cool
• 50:02
  looking
• 50:02
  bird
• 50:02
  or
• 50:03
  monkey.
• 50:03
  I
• 50:03
  mean,
• 50:03
  if
• 50:03
  you're
• 50:04
  stranded,
• 50:04
  that's
• 50:04
  about
• 50:04
  it.
• 50:05
  Yeah,
• 50:06
  yeah,
• 50:06
  yeah.
• 50:07
  I'm
• 50:07
  going
• 50:07
  to
• 50:07
  say
• 50:07
  my
• 50:08
  third
• 50:08
  app
• 50:08
  would
• 50:08
  be
• 50:08
  the
• 50:09
  New
• 50:09
  York
• 50:09
  Times
• 50:09
  crossword
• 50:10
  puzzle.
• 50:11
  That
• 50:11
  would
• 50:12
  be.
• 50:12
  That
• 50:12
  would
• 50:12
  be
• 50:12
  my
• 50:13
  last
• 50:13
  one.
• 50:13
  I
• 50:14
  would,
• 50:14
  I
• 50:14
  would
• 50:14
  want
• 50:14
  the
• 50:14
  New
• 50:14
  York
• 50:15
  Times
• 50:15
  crossword
• 50:15
  puzzle
• 50:17
  unlimited
• 50:17
  subscription
• 50:18
  so
• 50:18
  that
• 50:18
  I'm
• 50:18
  not
• 50:19
  paying
• 50:19
  for
• 50:19
  it
• 50:19
  while
• 50:19
  I'm,
• 50:20
  you
• 50:20
  know,
• 50:20
  deserted
• 50:21
  on
• 50:21
  some
• 50:22
  island
• 50:22
  somewhere.
• 50:23
  So,
• 50:23
  you
• 50:24
  know,
• 50:25
  I
• 50:25
  don't
• 50:25
  know,
• 50:25
  I
• 50:26
  just,
• 50:26
  I,
• 50:26
  I
• 50:27
  think
• 50:27
  it'd
• 50:27
  be
• 50:27
  interesting
• 50:28
  to
• 50:28
  keep
• 50:28
  my,
• 50:28
  my
• 50:29
  skills,
• 50:30
  my
• 50:30
  skills
• 50:30
  up
• 50:30
  on
• 50:31
  that,
• 50:31
  so.
• 50:32
  Well,
• 50:33
  Joeli,
• 50:34
  we
• 50:34
  really
• 50:34
  appreciate
• 50:35
  you
• 50:35
  being
• 50:36
  on
• 50:36
  the
• 50:36
  show
• 50:36
  with
• 50:36
  us.
• 50:36
  Before
• 50:36
  we
• 50:37
  let
• 50:37
  you
• 50:37
  go
• 50:37
  though,
• 50:37
  because
• 50:38
  you
• 50:38
  are
• 50:39
  a
• 50:39
  first
• 50:39
  time
• 50:39
  guest
• 50:40
  and
• 50:41
  having
• 50:41
  authored
• 50:42
  a
• 50:42
  book,
• 50:43
  it
• 50:43
  makes
• 50:43
  you
• 50:44
  a
• 50:44
  celebrity
• 50:44
  in
• 50:44
  our
• 50:44
  eyes.
• 50:45
  So
• 50:46
  you
• 50:46
  have
• 50:46
  to
• 50:47
  do.
• 50:48
  I
• 50:48
  have
• 50:49
  to
• 50:49
  ask
• 50:49
  you
• 50:49
  to
• 50:49
  do
• 50:50
  our
• 50:51
  seven
• 50:51
  questions
• 50:52
  again.
• 50:52
  The
• 50:52
  light's
• 50:53
  too
• 50:53
  bright.
• 50:53
  You
• 50:53
  can't.
• 50:54
  You
• 50:54
  can
• 50:54
  barely
• 50:54
  see
• 50:54
  these
• 50:55
  things.
• 50:55
  So
• 50:56
  the,
• 50:57
  if
• 50:57
  you,
• 50:58
  if
• 50:58
  you've
• 50:58
  heard
• 50:58
  this
• 50:58
  segment,
• 50:59
  then
• 50:59
  you're
• 50:59
  probably
• 51:00
  prepared,
• 51:00
  but
• 51:01
  hopefully,
• 51:02
  hopefully
• 51:02
  you've
• 51:02
  heard
• 51:03
  it
• 51:03
  and
• 51:03
  just
• 51:03
  forgotten.
• 51:05
  So
• 51:05
  the
• 51:05
  first
• 51:05
  question
• 51:06
  is,
• 51:07
  what
• 51:07
  was
• 51:07
  the
• 51:07
  last
• 51:08
  thing
• 51:08
  that
• 51:08
  you
• 51:09
  probably
• 51:10
  had.
• 51:10
  To
• 51:10
  do
• 51:10
  with
• 51:11
  something
• 51:12
  along
• 51:12
  the
• 51:12
  lines
• 51:13
  of
• 51:14
  my
• 51:14
  children,
• 51:15
  because
• 51:15
  I
• 51:15
  am
• 51:16
  a,
• 51:17
  like
• 51:17
  a
• 51:18
  frantic
• 51:18
  parent.
• 51:19
  So
• 51:19
  anything
• 51:20
  that's
• 51:21
  wrong,
• 51:22
  I
• 51:22
  will
• 51:22
  google
• 51:23
  it.
• 51:23
  Like
• 51:23
  if
• 51:23
  they,
• 51:24
  I
• 51:25
  don't
• 51:25
  know,
• 51:25
  have
• 51:25
  a
• 51:25
  mark
• 51:26
  on
• 51:26
  their
• 51:26
  arm
• 51:26
  or
• 51:27
  they're
• 51:28
  telling
• 51:28
  me
• 51:28
  something
• 51:28
  hurts,
• 51:29
  I'm
• 51:29
  like,
• 51:29
  google,
• 51:30
  what
• 51:30
  does
• 51:31
  this
• 51:31
  mean?
• 51:33
  So
• 51:33
  that's
• 51:33
  probably
• 51:34
  one.
• 51:35
  Okay.
• 51:36
  All
• 51:36
  right,
• 51:36
  second
• 51:37
  question.
• 51:37
  If
• 51:37
  you
• 51:37
  could
• 51:37
  have
• 51:38
  one
• 51:38
  superpower,
• 51:39
  what
• 51:39
  would
• 51:39
  it
• 51:39
  be?
• 51:40
  This
• 51:40
  is
• 51:40
  actually
• 51:40
  funny
• 51:41
  because
• 51:41
  I
• 51:41
  was
• 51:41
  watching
• 51:42
  the
• 51:42
  series
• 51:43
  of
• 51:43
  X
• 51:43
  Men
• 51:44
  recently,
• 51:45
  so
• 51:46
  I
• 51:46
  would
• 51:46
  want
• 51:46
  to
• 51:47
  have
• 51:47
  the
• 51:48
  power
• 51:49
  of
• 51:49
  Dr.
• 51:49
  X
• 51:50
  being
• 51:50
  able
• 51:50
  to
• 51:50
  control
• 51:51
  people's
• 51:51
  minds
• 51:52
  and
• 51:52
  read
• 51:52
  their
• 51:52
  minds.
• 51:53
  Okay.
• 51:54
  All
• 51:54
  right.
• 51:55
  That's
• 51:55
  a
• 51:55
  good
• 51:55
  one.
• 51:56
  He
• 51:56
  is
• 51:56
  an
• 51:57
  omega
• 51:57
  level
• 51:59
  mutant.
• 51:59
  So
• 52:00
  you,
• 52:01
  you
• 52:01
  have
• 52:01
  picked
• 52:01
  one
• 52:01
  of
• 52:02
  the
• 52:02
  strongest.
• 52:03
  The.
• 52:04
  The
• 52:04
  third
• 52:04
  question.
• 52:05
  If
• 52:05
  your
• 52:05
  life
• 52:05
  were
• 52:05
  a
• 52:06
  movie,
• 52:06
  and
• 52:06
  we
• 52:06
  change
• 52:07
  this
• 52:07
  one
• 52:07
  a
• 52:07
  little
• 52:07
  bit.
• 52:08
  If
• 52:08
  your
• 52:09
  life
• 52:09
  were
• 52:09
  a
• 52:09
  movie,
• 52:10
  what
• 52:10
  would
• 52:11
  be
• 52:11
  the
• 52:11
  opening
• 52:12
  sound
• 52:12
  or
• 52:12
  the
• 52:13
  opening
• 52:13
  song
• 52:13
  to
• 52:14
  that
• 52:14
  movie?
• 52:14
  I
• 52:14
  don't
• 52:14
  know
• 52:14
  if
• 52:15
  you
• 52:15
  guys
• 52:15
  listen
• 52:15
  to
• 52:16
  Kid
• 52:16
  Cudi,
• 52:17
  but
• 52:17
  it
• 52:17
  would
• 52:18
  be
• 52:18
  Kid
• 52:18
  Cudi.
• 52:19
  Rose.
• 52:20
  Yes.
• 52:21
  Rose
• 52:21
  Gold
• 52:22
  with
• 52:22
  Willow
• 52:23
  Smith.
• 52:23
  That's
• 52:23
  a
• 52:23
  good
• 52:24
  song.
• 52:24
  Okay,
• 52:25
  okay,
• 52:26
  okay.
• 52:27
  Kid
• 52:27
  Cudi
• 52:27
  in
• 52:27
  the
• 52:28
  news
• 52:28
  this
• 52:28
  week
• 52:29
  having,
• 52:30
  or
• 52:31
  I
• 52:32
  guess
• 52:32
  it
• 52:32
  was
• 52:32
  last
• 52:32
  week
• 52:33
  because
• 52:34
  he
• 52:34
  was
• 52:34
  on
• 52:35
  the
• 52:35
  stand
• 52:35
  for
• 52:36
  the
• 52:37
  P.
• 52:37
  Diddy
• 52:38
  and
• 52:39
  apparently
• 52:39
  he
• 52:40
  said
• 52:40
  that
• 52:42
  P.
• 52:43
  Diddy
• 52:44
  would
• 52:44
  be
• 52:45
  like
• 52:45
  the
• 52:45
  Marvel
• 52:45
  supervillain.
• 52:46
  Oh,
• 52:47
  my
• 52:47
  goodness.
• 52:47
  Trafficking.
• 52:49
  Wow.
• 52:52
  I'm
• 52:52
  like,
• 52:52
  you
• 52:53
  know
• 52:53
  what?
• 52:55
  It
• 52:55
  would
• 52:55
  take
• 52:55
  an
• 52:55
  artist
• 52:56
  like
• 52:57
  Kid
• 52:57
  Cudi
• 52:58
  to
• 52:58
  come
• 52:58
  up
• 52:58
  with
• 52:59
  that.
• 52:59
  I
• 52:59
  would
• 52:59
  not
• 52:59
  have
• 53:00
  thought
• 53:00
  of
• 53:00
  that.
• 53:00
  That
• 53:01
  was
• 53:01
  really
• 53:01
  good.
• 53:02
  All
• 53:02
  right,
• 53:03
  fourth
• 53:03
  question.
• 53:04
  If
• 53:04
  you
• 53:04
  could
• 53:04
  eat
• 53:05
  one
• 53:05
  food
• 53:05
  for
• 53:05
  the
• 53:06
  rest
• 53:06
  of
• 53:06
  your
• 53:06
  life,
• 53:06
  what
• 53:06
  would
• 53:07
  it
• 53:07
  be?
• 53:07
  I
• 53:07
  would
• 53:07
  eat
• 53:07
  mangoes.
• 53:08
  Mangoes
• 53:09
  are
• 53:09
  so
• 53:10
  filling
• 53:10
  and
• 53:10
  delicious
• 53:11
  and
• 53:12
  they're
• 53:12
  just
• 53:12
  great.
• 53:13
  I
• 53:13
  could
• 53:13
  eat
• 53:14
  20
• 53:14
  mangoes
• 53:15
  a
• 53:15
  day
• 53:15
  and
• 53:15
  I'll
• 53:15
  be
• 53:16
  fine.
• 53:17
  Man,
• 53:17
  that
• 53:18
  does.
• 53:19
  I
• 53:19
  do
• 53:19
  like.
• 53:19
  I
• 53:20
  do
• 53:20
  like
• 53:20
  mangoes.
• 53:20
  I
• 53:21
  do
• 53:21
  like
• 53:21
  mangoes.
• 53:22
  All
• 53:22
  right,
• 53:23
  fifth
• 53:23
  question.
• 53:24
  What
• 53:24
  is
• 53:24
  your
• 53:24
  least
• 53:25
  favorite
• 53:25
  candy
• 53:25
  and
• 53:26
  why?
• 53:26
  It's
• 53:27
  hard.
• 53:28
  My
• 53:29
  least
• 53:29
  favorite
• 53:30
  candy.
• 53:31
  Oh,
• 53:32
  man,
• 53:32
  do
• 53:32
  I
• 53:32
  have
• 53:33
  one.
• 53:33
  I
• 53:33
  love
• 53:34
  candy.
• 53:37
  Okay.
• 53:37
  Twizzlers.
• 53:39
  Twizzlers.
• 53:40
  And
• 53:40
  those
• 53:40
  types
• 53:41
  of
• 53:41
  candies
• 53:41
  because,
• 53:43
  yes,
• 53:43
  they
• 53:43
  are
• 53:43
  delicious,
• 53:44
  but
• 53:45
  they're
• 53:46
  so
• 53:46
  hard
• 53:47
  to
• 53:47
  eat.
• 53:47
  I
• 53:47
  have
• 53:47
  to
• 53:48
  pull
• 53:48
  so
• 53:48
  hard
• 53:48
  on
• 53:49
  it
• 53:49
  to
• 53:50
  bite
• 53:50
  it.
• 53:50
  It's
• 53:51
  so
• 53:51
  complicated.
• 53:52
  But
• 53:52
  they
• 53:52
  are
• 53:52
  tasty.
• 53:54
  So
• 53:55
  the
• 53:56
  licorice
• 53:57
  in
• 53:57
  general.
• 53:58
  So
• 53:59
  I
• 53:59
  used
• 53:59
  to.
• 54:00
  When
• 54:00
  I
• 54:00
  would
• 54:01
  go
• 54:01
  to
• 54:01
  movies,
• 54:01
  because
• 54:01
  I'd
• 54:02
  go
• 54:02
  by
• 54:02
  myself.
• 54:03
  If
• 54:04
  they
• 54:04
  had
• 54:04
  a
• 54:04
  pack
• 54:05
  of
• 54:05
  Twizzlers,
• 54:05
  that
• 54:06
  was
• 54:06
  what
• 54:06
  I
• 54:06
  got
• 54:06
  as
• 54:06
  my
• 54:07
  snack.
• 54:07
  I'd
• 54:08
  get
• 54:08
  a
• 54:08
  water
• 54:08
  or
• 54:08
  a
• 54:08
  soft
• 54:09
  drink,
• 54:09
  and
• 54:09
  I'd
• 54:09
  get
• 54:10
  my.
• 54:10
  My
• 54:10
  pack
• 54:10
  of
• 54:10
  Twizzlers.
• 54:11
  And
• 54:11
  that's
• 54:11
  what
• 54:11
  I
• 54:11
  had
• 54:12
  during
• 54:12
  the.
• 54:13
  But
• 54:14
  I
• 54:14
  don't
• 54:14
  see
• 54:14
  the
• 54:15
  pack
• 54:15
  of
• 54:15
  Twizzlers
• 54:15
  very
• 54:16
  often
• 54:16
  anymore.
• 54:17
  It's
• 54:18
  not
• 54:18
  because
• 54:18
  it's
• 54:18
  not
• 54:18
  there,
• 54:18
  but
• 54:18
  it's
• 54:19
  probably
• 54:19
  just
• 54:19
  because
• 54:19
  I'm
• 54:19
  not
• 54:19
  looking.
• 54:20
  All
• 54:20
  right,
• 54:21
  question
• 54:22
  number
• 54:22
  six.
• 54:22
  What
• 54:23
  is
• 54:23
  one
• 54:23
  strange
• 54:24
  or
• 54:24
  unusual
• 54:25
  talent
• 54:25
  that
• 54:25
  you
• 54:26
  have
• 54:27
  that
• 54:28
  you're
• 54:28
  comfortable
• 54:28
  with?
• 54:30
  So
• 54:31
  I
• 54:31
  like
• 54:32
  to
• 54:32
  rap.
• 54:33
  I
• 54:33
  like
• 54:34
  to
• 54:34
  rap,
• 54:34
  and
• 54:35
  sometimes
• 54:35
  it
• 54:36
  doesn't
• 54:36
  make
• 54:36
  any
• 54:36
  sense,
• 54:37
  and
• 54:38
  most
• 54:38
  times
• 54:39
  it's
• 54:39
  just
• 54:40
  a
• 54:40
  whole
• 54:40
  bunch
• 54:40
  of
• 54:40
  nonsense,
• 54:41
  but
• 54:42
  I
• 54:42
  like
• 54:42
  to
• 54:42
  just
• 54:43
  randomly
• 54:43
  rap
• 54:44
  throughout
• 54:44
  the
• 54:44
  day.
• 54:44
  I
• 54:45
  just
• 54:45
  start
• 54:45
  rapping
• 54:46
  about
• 54:46
  stuff.
• 54:46
  Well,
• 54:47
  I
• 54:47
  won't
• 54:47
  put
• 54:47
  you
• 54:48
  on
• 54:48
  the
• 54:48
  spot
• 54:48
  and
• 54:48
  ask
• 54:48
  you
• 54:49
  to
• 54:49
  do
• 54:49
  one,
• 54:50
  but
• 54:50
  I
• 54:51
  think
• 54:51
  Bill
• 54:51
  wants
• 54:51
  me
• 54:51
  to.
• 54:52
  So
• 54:52
  I
• 54:52
  really
• 54:53
  want
• 54:53
  you
• 54:53
  to.
• 54:55
  Do
• 54:55
  you
• 54:55
  need
• 54:55
  a
• 54:55
  beat?
• 54:56
  Okay,
• 54:56
  go
• 54:56
  ahead.
• 55:00
  Okay,
• 55:00
  I
• 55:01
  could
• 55:01
  put
• 55:01
  on
• 55:01
  a
• 55:01
  beat.
• 55:01
  I
• 55:02
  don't
• 55:02
  know.
• 55:04
  I
• 55:04
  would
• 55:05
  do
• 55:05
  it.
• 55:08
  I
• 55:08
  would
• 55:08
  love
• 55:08
  to
• 55:09
  hear
• 55:10
  just
• 55:10
  something.
• 55:11
  Just
• 55:11
  something.
• 55:11
  Okay,
• 55:11
  I'm
• 55:12
  going
• 55:12
  to
• 55:12
  find
• 55:12
  a
• 55:12
  beat
• 55:12
  real
• 55:13
  quick.
• 55:13
  Can
• 55:13
  I
• 55:13
  do
• 55:13
  that?
• 55:14
  I
• 55:15
  was
• 55:15
  going
• 55:15
  to
• 55:15
  say
• 55:16
  worst
• 55:17
  case
• 55:17
  scenario.
• 55:18
  Then
• 55:18
  the
• 55:18
  requirement
• 55:19
  is
• 55:19
  that
• 55:20
  at
• 55:20
  some
• 55:20
  point
• 55:20
  in
• 55:21
  the
• 55:21
  next
• 55:21
  week
• 55:21
  or
• 55:21
  so,
• 55:22
  you
• 55:22
  send
• 55:23
  me
• 55:23
  a
• 55:23
  leak
• 55:23
  to
• 55:23
  a
• 55:24
  social
• 55:24
  media
• 55:24
  post
• 55:25
  of
• 55:25
  you
• 55:25
  rapping
• 55:26
  and
• 55:27
  just
• 55:27
  nonsense.
• 55:30
  We
• 55:30
  can.
• 55:31
  We
• 55:31
  can
• 55:32
  do
• 55:32
  that.
• 55:32
  We'll
• 55:32
  do
• 55:32
  it
• 55:33
  that
• 55:33
  way.
• 55:33
  All
• 55:33
  right,
• 55:34
  last
• 55:34
  question
• 55:34
  number
• 55:35
  seven.
• 55:36
  If
• 55:36
  you
• 55:36
  could
• 55:37
  have
• 55:37
  dinner
• 55:37
  with
• 55:37
  any
• 55:38
  three
• 55:38
  people,
• 55:38
  dead
• 55:38
  or
• 55:39
  alive,
• 55:39
  who
• 55:39
  would
• 55:39
  they
• 55:39
  be?
• 55:40
  Okay.
• 55:41
  Dead
• 55:42
  or
• 55:42
  alive,
• 55:43
  I
• 55:43
  would
• 55:43
  choose
• 55:46
  probably
• 55:47
  one
• 55:47
  of
• 55:47
  my
• 55:47
  great
• 55:48
  grandparents
• 55:51
  from
• 55:51
  my
• 55:51
  mom
• 55:52
  and
• 55:52
  dad's
• 55:52
  side.
• 55:54
  And
• 55:54
  then
• 55:55
  so,
• 55:56
  like,
• 55:56
  maybe
• 55:57
  my
• 55:57
  maternal
• 55:58
  great
• 55:58
  grandmother
• 55:59
  and
• 56:00
  my
• 56:00
  paternal
• 56:01
  great
• 56:02
  grandfather,
• 56:04
  and
• 56:05
  then
• 56:05
  maybe
• 56:06
  Shakespeare.
• 56:07
  Shakespeare.
• 56:08
  Because
• 56:09
  I
• 56:09
  want
• 56:09
  to
• 56:10
  know,
• 56:10
  okay,
• 56:11
  if
• 56:11
  he
• 56:11
  was
• 56:11
  actually
• 56:12
  a
• 56:12
  real
• 56:12
  person
• 56:13
  or
• 56:13
  not.
• 56:13
  And
• 56:13
  then
• 56:14
  also
• 56:14
  if
• 56:15
  he
• 56:15
  really
• 56:15
  wrote
• 56:16
  those
• 56:16
  pieces
• 56:17
  or
• 56:17
  not.
• 56:18
  If
• 56:19
  that
• 56:19
  makes
• 56:19
  sense.
• 56:20
  So
• 56:20
  you
• 56:20
  need
• 56:21
  Shakespeare.
• 56:21
  Yeah.
• 56:22
  Shakespeare
• 56:22
  needs
• 56:22
  to
• 56:22
  be
• 56:23
  sitting
• 56:23
  down
• 56:23
  at
• 56:24
  dinner,
• 56:25
  and
• 56:26
  he
• 56:26
  has
• 56:26
  to
• 56:26
  be
• 56:26
  honest,
• 56:28
  that
• 56:29
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• 56:29
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• 56:29
  a
• 56:29
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• 56:29
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• 56:30
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• 56:30
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• 56:30
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• 56:30
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• 56:30
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• 56:31
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• 56:31
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• 56:31
  Shakespeare,
• 56:31
  I
• 56:32
  think,
• 56:32
  would
• 56:32
  probably
• 56:32
  lie
• 56:33
  to
• 56:33
  us.
• 56:34
  That's
• 56:34
  good.
• 56:35
  All
• 56:35
  right.
• 56:36
  And
• 56:36
  who
• 56:36
  would
• 56:37
  be
• 56:37
  your
• 56:37
  third
• 56:37
  choice
• 56:38
  at
• 56:38
  dinner?
• 56:40
  It's
• 56:40
  not
• 56:40
  an
• 56:41
  easy
• 56:41
  question
• 56:42
  because
• 56:42
  there's
• 56:43
  always
• 56:43
  the
• 56:43
  obvious
• 56:44
  ones.
• 56:44
  There's
• 56:44
  always
• 56:44
  the
• 56:44
  obvious
• 56:45
  ones.
• 56:45
  Like
• 56:45
  people
• 56:45
  will
• 56:45
  be
• 56:45
  like,
• 56:46
  oh,
• 56:46
  I'd
• 56:46
  like
• 56:46
  to
• 56:46
  sit
• 56:46
  down
• 56:46
  and
• 56:47
  have
• 56:47
  dinner
• 56:47
  with
• 56:47
  Jesus
• 56:47
  Christ.
• 56:48
  But
• 56:49
  I'm
• 56:50
  just
• 56:50
  going
• 56:50
  to
• 56:50
  put
• 56:50
  this
• 56:50
  out
• 56:50
  there.
• 56:51
  I
• 56:51
  believe
• 56:51
  he's
• 56:52
  probably
• 56:52
  a
• 56:52
  bit
• 56:52
  of
• 56:52
  a
• 56:52
  showboater.
• 56:53
  He's
• 56:53
  always
• 56:54
  pulling
• 56:54
  off
• 56:55
  these
• 56:55
  tricks
• 56:55
  and
• 56:55
  whatnot.
• 56:56
  He's
• 56:56
  trying
• 56:56
  to
• 56:56
  entertain
• 56:57
  the
• 56:57
  audience.
• 56:57
  He
• 56:58
  might,
• 56:58
  he
• 56:58
  might
• 56:58
  take
• 56:58
  a
• 56:59
  little
• 56:59
  bit
• 56:59
  of
• 56:59
  attention
• 57:00
  away
• 57:00
  from
• 57:01
  what
• 57:01
  the
• 57:01
  dinner
• 57:01
  is
• 57:01
  intended
• 57:02
  for.
• 57:03
  So
• 57:03
  I'll.
• 57:04
  Maybe
• 57:05
  John
• 57:05
  the
• 57:05
  Baptist
• 57:05
  or
• 57:06
  something.
• 57:06
  This
• 57:06
  is
• 57:07
  a
• 57:07
  hard
• 57:07
  one.
• 57:07
  I'm
• 57:07
  not
• 57:08
  sure.
• 57:10
  So
• 57:10
  maybe
• 57:11
  Kanye
• 57:12
  West's
• 57:12
  mother.
• 57:14
  Oh,
• 57:15
  that's
• 57:15
  a
• 57:15
  good
• 57:15
  one.
• 57:16
  That's
• 57:17
  a
• 57:17
  good
• 57:17
  one.
• 57:17
  Because
• 57:18
  I
• 57:19
  honestly,
• 57:19
  I'd
• 57:20
  like
• 57:20
  her
• 57:20
  opinion
• 57:21
  on
• 57:22
  what,
• 57:22
  what
• 57:22
  exactly
• 57:22
  has
• 57:23
  happened.
• 57:24
  And
• 57:25
  then
• 57:25
  maybe
• 57:26
  right
• 57:26
  now
• 57:26
  trying
• 57:27
  to.
• 57:27
  Actually
• 57:27
  get
• 57:27
  recovery
• 57:28
  like
• 57:28
  it
• 57:28
  happened
• 57:29
  this
• 57:29
  past
• 57:29
  week
• 57:30
  that
• 57:30
  he's
• 57:30
  just
• 57:31
  like,
• 57:31
  I'm
• 57:31
  sorry
• 57:32
  I
• 57:32
  did
• 57:32
  these
• 57:32
  things,
• 57:33
  but
• 57:33
  I'm
• 57:33
  like,
• 57:33
  I
• 57:33
  don't
• 57:34
  know
• 57:34
  what,
• 57:35
  I
• 57:35
  don't
• 57:35
  know.
• 57:35
  I
• 57:36
  will,
• 57:36
  I
• 57:36
  will
• 57:37
  just
• 57:37
  say
• 57:37
  I
• 57:37
  think
• 57:37
  Kanye
• 57:38
  west
• 57:38
  is
• 57:38
  easily
• 57:39
  one
• 57:39
  of
• 57:39
  the
• 57:39
  most
• 57:39
  talented
• 57:40
  artists
• 57:41
  when
• 57:42
  it
• 57:42
  comes
• 57:42
  to
• 57:43
  the,
• 57:44
  his,
• 57:45
  his,
• 57:46
  his
• 57:46
  ability
• 57:47
  to,
• 57:47
  to
• 57:47
  express.
• 57:48
  I
• 57:48
  think
• 57:49
  he's
• 57:49
  incredibly
• 57:49
  talented.
• 57:51
  I,
• 57:51
  I
• 57:52
  absolutely
• 57:52
  enjoy
• 57:53
  many
• 57:54
  of
• 57:54
  his
• 57:54
  albums
• 57:55
  and
• 57:55
  his
• 57:55
  singles
• 57:55
  and
• 57:56
  B
• 57:56
  sides
• 57:57
  and,
• 57:57
  and
• 57:58
  so
• 57:58
  Kanye
• 57:58
  West,
• 57:59
  I
• 57:59
  think
• 57:59
  is
• 57:59
  extremely
• 58:00
  talented.
• 58:01
  I
• 58:01
  just
• 58:02
  wish
• 58:02
  he
• 58:02
  wasn't
• 58:03
  a
• 58:03
  Nazi
• 58:04
  or
• 58:04
  a
• 58:04
  self
• 58:05
  proclaimed
• 58:06
  Nazi.
• 58:06
  Like,
• 58:06
  I
• 58:07
  wish,
• 58:07
  you
• 58:08
  know,
• 58:08
  there
• 58:09
  will
• 58:09
  be,
• 58:09
  there
• 58:09
  will
• 58:09
  be
• 58:09
  two
• 58:10
  different
• 58:10
  stories
• 58:10
  of
• 58:11
  Kanye
• 58:11
  west
• 58:11
  that,
• 58:12
  that
• 58:12
  I
• 58:12
  eventually
• 58:12
  tell
• 58:13
  my
• 58:13
  grandchildren
• 58:13
  and
• 58:14
  great
• 58:14
  grandchildren
• 58:14
  and
• 58:15
  that
• 58:15
  is
• 58:15
  that
• 58:17
  I
• 58:18
  hopefully
• 58:18
  will
• 58:18
  be
• 58:18
  able
• 58:18
  to
• 58:19
  leave
• 58:19
  out,
• 58:20
  I
• 58:20
  hopefully
• 58:21
  believe
• 58:21
  be
• 58:21
  able
• 58:22
  to
• 58:22
  leave
• 58:22
  out
• 58:22
  the
• 58:23
  crazy.
• 58:23
  All
• 58:23
  of
• 58:24
  this
• 58:24
  crazy
• 58:24
  stuff.
• 58:25
  But
• 58:25
  he
• 58:26
  also
• 58:26
  made
• 58:27
  graduation
• 58:27
  at
• 58:27
  the
• 58:28
  end,
• 58:28
  so
• 58:28
  we're
• 58:28
  going
• 58:29
  to
• 58:29
  just
• 58:30
  swipe
• 58:30
  all
• 58:30
  that
• 58:31
  stuff
• 58:31
  out
• 58:31
  and
• 58:32
  he's
• 58:32
  still
• 58:32
  a
• 58:33
  great
• 58:33
  guy.
• 58:34
  Yeah,
• 58:34
  let's
• 58:35
  not,
• 58:35
  let's
• 58:35
  not,
• 58:35
  let's
• 58:36
  not
• 58:36
  call
• 58:36
  it
• 58:36
  the
• 58:36
  end.
• 58:36
  Let's,
• 58:37
  let's,
• 58:37
  let's
• 58:37
  hope
• 58:38
  for
• 58:38
  reformation.
• 58:39
  You
• 58:39
  know,
• 58:39
  he'll,
• 58:39
  he'll
• 58:40
  make
• 58:40
  some
• 58:40
  changes,
• 58:40
  so.
• 58:42
  Well,
• 58:42
  Joel,
• 58:43
  those
• 58:43
  were
• 58:43
  fantastic
• 58:44
  answers.
• 58:44
  Thank
• 58:45
  you
• 58:45
  very
• 58:45
  much
• 58:45
  for
• 58:45
  participating
• 58:46
  in
• 58:46
  that.
• 58:47
  Also
• 58:47
  thank
• 58:48
  you
• 58:48
  very
• 58:48
  much
• 58:48
  for
• 58:48
  being
• 58:48
  on
• 58:48
  the
• 58:49
  show.
• 58:49
  Joel's
• 58:50
  book
• 58:50
  is
• 58:51
  available
• 58:51
  on
• 58:51
  Amazon.
• 58:51
  It's
• 58:52
  called
• 58:52
  Put
• 58:52
  the
• 58:52
  Phone
• 58:53
  down,
• 58:53
  we
• 58:53
  have
• 58:53
  a
• 58:53
  Job
• 58:53
  to
• 58:54
  Do.
• 58:54
  It's
• 58:54
  available
• 58:55
  on
• 58:55
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• 58:55
  again.
• 58:55
  You
• 58:56
  can
• 58:56
  check
• 58:56
  for
• 58:56
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• 58:56
  in
• 58:56
  the
• 58:57
  show
• 58:57
  notes.
• 58:57
  So
• 58:58
  go
• 58:58
  check
• 58:58
  that
• 58:58
  out.
• 58:59
  Purchase
• 58:59
  it
• 59:00
  because
• 59:01
  ultimately
• 59:01
  I
• 59:02
  think
• 59:02
  that
• 59:02
  for
• 59:02
  a
• 59:02
  lot
• 59:02
  of
• 59:03
  us,
• 59:03
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• 59:03
  if
• 59:03
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• 59:03
  listening
• 59:04
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• 59:04
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• 59:04
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• 59:04
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• 59:04
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• 59:05
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• 59:05
  there's
• 59:05
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• 59:05
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• 59:05
  possibility
• 59:06
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• 59:06
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• 59:06
  scrolling
• 59:06
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• 59:07
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• 59:07
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• 59:07
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• 59:07
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• 59:07
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• 59:07
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• 59:08
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• 59:08
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• 59:08
  So
• 59:09
  you
• 59:09
  know,
• 59:09
  that's
• 59:10
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• 59:10
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• 59:10
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• 59:10
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• 59:11
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• 59:11
  So
• 59:11
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• 59:11
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• 59:11
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• 59:12
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• 59:12
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• 59:12
  Joel,
• 59:13
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• 59:13
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• 59:13
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• 59:13
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• 59:13
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• 59:14
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• 59:14
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• 59:14
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• 59:14
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• 59:15
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• 59:15
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• 59:16
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• 59:16
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• 59:16
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• 59:16
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• 59:18
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• 59:25
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• 59:48
  Joelie
• 59:48
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• 59:49
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• 59:49
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• 59:49
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• 59:49
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• 59:51
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• 59:51
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• 59:52
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• 59:52
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• 59:52
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• 59:52
  Also
• 59:53
  Bill
• 59:53
  Fry,
• 59:54
  thank
• 59:54
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• 59:54
  for
• 59:54
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• 59:54
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• 59:55
  I
• 59:56
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• 59:56
  that
• 59:56
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• 59:56
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• 59:57
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• 59:57
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• 59:57
  King
• 59:57
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• 59:58
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• 59:58
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• 59:59
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• 59:59
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