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  Speaker 1: Yes, congratulations. No one's paying attention. Football season has started.
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  Speaker 1: We have let an angry Sal Licata go. His microphone
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  Speaker 1: just wasn't working. He is so upset. He's going to
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  Speaker 1: take it all home with him. He's going to be
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  Speaker 1: angry for 24 hours, and hopefully we'll get him reconnected
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  Speaker 1: and we'll do the show tomorrow. But man, is Sal upset. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: he is so mad. Dan, an emotional night for you
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  Speaker 1: last night. You're Seahawks, you know, raising a banner. Big
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  Speaker 1: win over the Patriots.
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  Speaker 4: I'll tell you how last night ended up feeling because
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  Speaker 4: I felt that New England had a lot of momentum.
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  Speaker 4: It was nice to see Taylor's boy, Mac Hollins, for
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  Speaker 4: Taylor's benefit, still get the run that he deserves when
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  Speaker 4: everybody's being out. But it felt like a game of
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  Speaker 4: cutthroat kitchen. Did you ever watch that show on Food
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  Speaker 4: Network where they have to throw different obstacles? Maybe they'll
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  Speaker 4: take away like your blender, but it was like, guess what?
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  Speaker 5: Seahawks.
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  Speaker 4: Now you're not going to play with Sam Darnold Patriots.
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  Speaker 4: Now you're not going to have AJ Brown. You already
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  Speaker 4: don't have Travion Henderson. It felt like a bit of
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  Speaker 4: a watered down game when all of the pieces ended
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  Speaker 4: up settling at the end, exciting and crazy, but it
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  Speaker 4: was just weird on how inefficient it ended up being
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  Speaker 4: offensively because of all of the offensive players that were out.
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  Speaker 6: Yep.
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  Speaker 5: AJ Brown, high ankle sprain. He'll be out.
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  Speaker 1: It looks like maybe a couple of weeks here. Those
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  Speaker 1: are tricky. Did you laugh? Because I did.
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  Speaker 5: A.J.
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  Speaker 1: Brown, wide open, first half. But Drake May didn't have
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  Speaker 1: a big enough arm to get him the ball. He
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  Speaker 1: left Jalen Hurts to go to a quarterback who can
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  Speaker 1: get him that ball, and Drake May underthrew him. They
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  Speaker 1: got a pass interference penalty, but I was laughing because
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  Speaker 1: Drake May felt so badly that he could not connect
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  Speaker 1: with a wide open A.J. Brown who came to the
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  Speaker 1: Patriots so a quarterback could connect with him on a
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  Speaker 1: deep ball.
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  Speaker 5: How about that? And it was their best play of
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  Speaker 5: the game, arguably. Like, it truly was.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And then they score a touchdown, and no one's heard
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  Speaker 5: of the guy.
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  Speaker 4: So everybody who's been waiting seven, eight months for fantasy
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  Speaker 4: football are waiting for A.J.
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  Speaker 2: Brown.
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  Speaker 4: They're like, hey, I'm playing Ramondre Stevenson. There's no Travion Henderson.
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  Speaker 4: And they throw it to someone that no one has
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  Speaker 4: heard of.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I was feeling really good when Darnold went out.
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  Speaker 1: I was feeling great about my Seahawks not making the playoffs.
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  Speaker 5: You even retweeted the tweet. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think 10 years from now, if a Seattle
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  Speaker 1: starting quarterback goes down, that Drew Locke is still going
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  Speaker 1: to be coming in?
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  Speaker 5: I mean....
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  Speaker 4: The Drew Locke slander was so much that NFL insiders
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  Speaker 4: were saying... Jalen Milrow can't play unless Drew Locke gets hurt. Like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know who people like we're thinking, but people
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  Speaker 4: were obviously thinking in their mind, boy, Drew Locke, is
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  Speaker 4: it going to work out? Who could the Seahawks turn
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  Speaker 4: to instead? That was the Drew Locke slander before he
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  Speaker 4: pulled off another Houdini act. He did this a couple
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  Speaker 4: of years ago, filling in for Gino Smith against the
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  Speaker 4: Eagles on Monday Night Football. I don't know why people
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  Speaker 4: are questioning the greatness that is Drew Locke.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they questioned him in spurts in a
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  Speaker 1: moment like that, like last night. They questioned him if
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  Speaker 1: he has to start 16 more games, you know?
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  Speaker 5: Fair enough.
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  Speaker 4: I thought Mike Tomlin made a really good point in
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  Speaker 4: the postgame. He said, Drew Locke got most of the
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  Speaker 4: reps in the preseason games. So if this was an opportunity,
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  Speaker 4: he said this would have been maybe different in week
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  Speaker 4: 10 or 11 where he'd been removed from game action
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  Speaker 4: and wasn't getting a lot of reps in practice. But
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  Speaker 4: his point was that Locke was probably in step because
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  Speaker 4: of all of the preseason action there. He played a
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  Speaker 4: majority of the two games, didn't end up playing the
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  Speaker 4: last game for them. But yeah, he had a lot
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  Speaker 4: of work in the preseason.
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  Speaker 3: So I know Drew Locke wasn't part of the Seahawks
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  Speaker 3: original game plan. But if you looked at the Patriots
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  Speaker 3: game plan before the game and you told somebody from
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  Speaker 3: the Patriots. that Mack Hollins would have more receiving yards
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  Speaker 3: than A.J. Brown, Pop Douglas, and Romeo Dobbs combined, they
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't like their chance to win that game, right?
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  Speaker 5: No, you would say, yeah, we're losing.
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  Speaker 3: And yet, it came down to a Drake May interception
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  Speaker 3: where the Patriots could have driven for the score to
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  Speaker 3: win the game, or at the very least, kick a
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  Speaker 3: very manageable field goal to have a chance to win
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  Speaker 3: in overtime.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I thought was so interesting because Mike Vrabel
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  Speaker 4: said afterwards, he's like, we want to be aggressive, I think,
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  Speaker 4: and not reckless or whatever the phrase was. But if
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  Speaker 4: you're New England on that time, do you want to
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  Speaker 4: play for overtime? And I think most of us are like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: because they have drew lock on the other side. And again,
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  Speaker 4: it's no disrespect for him, but you would think normally
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  Speaker 4: on the road, let's go for the win.
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  Speaker 5: Let's close this out.
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  Speaker 4: You know, if there would be a chance you needed
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  Speaker 4: to go for two, we're going to go for two,
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  Speaker 4: the whole deal, but they were in field goal range.
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  Speaker 4: And I felt at that point that that's what made
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  Speaker 4: the interception. The third interception so bad was that new
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  Speaker 4: England could play for overtime and still be in a
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  Speaker 4: pretty good spot to win the game, but it was
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  Speaker 4: thrown away by the, by the underthrow.
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  Speaker 5: Listen, I understand going for the victory.
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  Speaker 1: They had time. They had time out. So I understand
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  Speaker 1: going for the victory. Your safety net there is three points.
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  Speaker 1: It's the field goal. So what you can't do is
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  Speaker 1: exactly what Drake May did, which is force a pass
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  Speaker 1: he never should have made. Patrick McEnroe and Brock, you
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  Speaker 1: are going to join us in hour number two. It
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  Speaker 1: is a Think About It Thursday here. Give me the
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  Speaker 1: imaging and let's do it.
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  Speaker 2: You know that segment, Talk About It Tuesday on Hockman, Crowder,
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  Speaker 2: and Solero? This is like that, but bigger and better.
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  Speaker 2: And 48 hours later, this is Think About It Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: Think About It Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: This is Taylor's attempt to counter-program a local radio show
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  Speaker 1: down here in Miami.
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  Speaker 5: Hockman, Solero, and Crowder. What do you have for us today, Taylor?
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  Speaker 3: So tonight's game, Niners versus Rams in Australia. Two different
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  Speaker 3: styles of preparing. San Francisco arrived more than a week
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  Speaker 3: early to acclimate. The Rams trained in California and arrived
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  Speaker 3: in Melbourne only about a day before kickoff, trying to
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  Speaker 3: keep their players closer to Pacific time. Which Australia strategy
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  Speaker 3: would you guys rather have? Arrive a week early like
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  Speaker 3: San Francisco or basically get off the plane and play
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  Speaker 3: like Los Angeles?
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  Speaker 5: Wow, that's a good question. 877-99 on Fox. 877-99 on Fox.
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  Speaker 1: So I've been to Australia, and I can tell you,
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  Speaker 1: having been there for two weeks, after a week, I
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  Speaker 1: still wasn't properly adjusted. There is no adjusting to that.
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  Speaker 1: Raheem Morris missed his birthday on the flight to Australia.
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  Speaker 1: It's a long trip. I would rather just get off
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  Speaker 1: the bird, play football, get back on the bird and
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  Speaker 1: go home.
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  Speaker 5: That's just me. I think that's the right strategy. Dan,
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  Speaker 5: what do you think? Give me a week.
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  Speaker 4: I'd love to see the sights and sounds. Get the
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  Speaker 4: body clock adjusted. I'm on the 49ers plan, opposite of you,
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  Speaker 4: Stu Gatz. I've never been to Australia. It's a long
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  Speaker 4: flight I've seen.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're telling you, as someone who's been to Australia,
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  Speaker 1: what I'm telling you is a week is not enough.
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  Speaker 1: You're not adjusted after a week. You might think you're adjusted,
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  Speaker 1: but you're not adjusted. I think too many bad things
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  Speaker 1: can happen when you go a week in advance, you know?
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  Speaker 5: And you're not there to see the sights, Dan. They're
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  Speaker 5: going to win a football game. I mean, what do
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  Speaker 5: you think? Vacation? Promote the game.
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  Speaker 4: Isn't that what Kevin Demoff or whatever was fighting one
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  Speaker 4: of the fans or one of the 49er reporters about
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  Speaker 4: the Rams did not do their part to spread the game,
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  Speaker 4: spread the love of the game while the 49ers have
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  Speaker 4: been doing all of the goodwill in Australia this past week?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Taylor, what do you think?
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  Speaker 1: Because I didn't have to think about that for long.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just like, yeah, let's hop off the bird, play football,
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  Speaker 1: and go home, you know?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that sounds good. But if tonight we
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  Speaker 3: turn on this game and Matthew Stafford gets off to
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  Speaker 3: a sluggish start and the Rams look pretty bad early on,
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  Speaker 3: how quickly are we going to blame Sean McVay for
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  Speaker 3: this travel strategy?
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  Speaker 4: They sent people to Australia. Multiple times to test out.
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  Speaker 4: That's the Rams excuse that they have. This is not
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  Speaker 4: just something they came up with, that they have been
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  Speaker 4: sending people over the last year back and forth to
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  Speaker 4: see what their biometrics or whatever say.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And it came back is just hop off the bird
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  Speaker 1: and play football.
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  Speaker 4: The result said Stugatz theory. That's what it said. Stugatz
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  Speaker 4: theory is the best theory.
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  Speaker 3: So, Dan, I saw that report that they sent staffers.
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  Speaker 3: No offense to the Rams, because I'm sure the Rams
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  Speaker 3: know more about how to do this than me. Well,
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  Speaker 3: what is sending your analytics guy supposed to do to
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  Speaker 3: help prepare, play a football game?
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  Speaker 5: It's all about body adjustment. That's it. Like, how long
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  Speaker 5: did it take you to adjust to the time in Australia, right?
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  Speaker 5: It doesn't matter who you are. Todd feels fine.
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  Speaker 4: Todd's great.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Look at Todd right now. He looks great.
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  Speaker 3: Look at Todd punching numbers into his calculator in our
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  Speaker 3: apartment whatsoever. Our accounting department is a lot different than
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  Speaker 3: how miles Garrett's body adjusts coming off the edge against
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  Speaker 3: Trent Williams.
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  Speaker 4: But what about if Neil was okay as well, you know,
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  Speaker 4: or Donna, like any of those, like if they're all
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  Speaker 4: still at the top of their level, I think the
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  Speaker 4: numbers will show that the Rams are making the right decision.
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  Speaker 1: It seems excessive to send staffers out there just to
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  Speaker 1: see how their body is reacting to being in Australia.
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  Speaker 5: Staffers who aren't playing football. Would you volunteer? That's the question.
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  Speaker 4: Like they tell you, you got to go on a
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  Speaker 4: flight and you got to immediately come back after a day.
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  Speaker 4: Is that a perk or not?
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  Speaker 7: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: How am I flying?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, that's... I would think you would have to
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  Speaker 4: fly first class because the Rams are flying first class.
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  Speaker 5: Right. Right.
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  Speaker 8: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: You want to recreate it. Exactly. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: A charter jet for time.
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  Speaker 3: What a ridiculous premise.
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  Speaker 5: Melissa.
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  Speaker 3: Melissa got on this 16 hour flight and was able
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  Speaker 3: to do her social media job. That's the same thing
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  Speaker 3: as Matthew Stafford having to play a football game.
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  Speaker 5: Give me a break.
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  Speaker 4: The Rams said that they slept. And again, it's like
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  Speaker 4: 16 or 17 hours. But there's still like five or
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  Speaker 4: six hours after you sleep. That you would probably wake up.
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  Speaker 4: I think I probably would volunteer at least once to see,
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  Speaker 4: but I don't know if you have to make like
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  Speaker 4: a three trip commitment because I think that's really how
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  Speaker 4: you would also get the data as well.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And Taylor, to answer your question, if the Rams lose
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  Speaker 1: the game, yes, of course, we'll blame McVay for taking
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  Speaker 1: them too late. And if the 49ers lose the game.
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  Speaker 1: We will blame Shanahan for taking them too early.
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  Speaker 3: Also, I know this was going to be too quick
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  Speaker 3: of a turnaround for Aaron Donald to play in this game.
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  Speaker 3: You can't make the trip with the team. They're paying
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  Speaker 3: you all this money. You can't go out there and
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  Speaker 3: get your pom-poms and support your teammates.
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  Speaker 1: I would say if you're Aaron Donald, you can have
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  Speaker 1: it any way you want to have it. And if
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  Speaker 1: he said, hey, I'll sign this contract, I ain't going
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  Speaker 1: to Australia. The Rams are OK with that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and why shouldn't they be? Aaron Donald is back playing football.
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  Speaker 1: And if they only get it for 16 games, who cares?
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  Speaker 3: He's like Roger Clemens when he came back and Roger
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  Speaker 3: Clemens was like, I'm not going on any road trips.
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  Speaker 3: And the Yankees were like, well, we need this guy
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  Speaker 3: to pitch. So I guess he's not going on any
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  Speaker 3: road trips that he doesn't have to pitch in.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, my gosh. Aaron Donald is in Georgia's box. That's
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  Speaker 4: my Susan Waldman. That was a good one.
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  Speaker 5: I've never done it before.
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  Speaker 3: And it wasn't that good.
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  Speaker 5: I know it was awful, but that's okay. Great job.
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  Speaker 5: I'll take it. Thank you. Great job. I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to recreate that if we could. Can we
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  Speaker 1: get Susan Walman actually saying that, Derek Cheater?
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  Speaker 4: Sam Stamisi playing Drops of Me right now. That's a
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  Speaker 4: great job.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to do a side-by-side comparison of the real
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  Speaker 1: one and the fake one.
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  Speaker 5: Because the fake one was dreadful. It was a good attempt, though.
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  Speaker 1: Let's take a call here. 877-99... Oh, the caller dropped.
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  Speaker 1: 877-99 on Fox. That is 877-99 on Fox. How do
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  Speaker 1: you feel about a game on a neutral field? I
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  Speaker 1: can't stand these games. I really can't.
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  Speaker 5: I have, like.
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  Speaker 1: Rams 49ers is a game I should be excited for,
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  Speaker 1: and yet it's hard to get excited for it, A,
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  Speaker 1: after last night's game, and B, when it's being played
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  Speaker 1: across the country in Australia. I mean, what kind of
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  Speaker 1: ridiculousness is this? There's going to be no atmosphere. There's
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  Speaker 1: going to be nothing there. It's going to be a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of people just happy to be in an NFL game.
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  Speaker 5: I don't like it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, can we start playing enough with college football
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  Speaker 1: starting the season in Dublin, Ireland, and enough with the
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  Speaker 1: NFL starting the season, although it started last night in Seattle,
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  Speaker 1: but enough with them having one of their first two
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  Speaker 1: games in Melbourne, Australia.
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  Speaker 5: Nobody cares.
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  Speaker 1: And nobody, and I mean nobody, not a single player,
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  Speaker 1: not a single staffer, not a single coach on either
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  Speaker 1: of those teams wants to be in Australia right now.
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  Speaker 5: They don't.
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  Speaker 3: So just a quick correction. You said across the country
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  Speaker 3: in Australia. It would be across the globe.
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  Speaker 5: That's what I meant. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Other side of the world. You know, listen, we lost
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  Speaker 1: the caller. We lost Sal. I'm very upset. Mikey is
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  Speaker 1: not here. I have no idea what's going on. And
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  Speaker 1: Dan Beyer has been forced into a co-hosting role that,
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  Speaker 1: quite frankly, he wasn't expecting when he stepped in today.
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  Speaker 5: I love it. I even love my Waldman. Let's hear the–
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  Speaker 5: Do we have Susan Waldman? Yes, you're going to have
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  Speaker 5: to do it again, though, okay? So you're going to
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  Speaker 5: have to– All right, you got it. All right, so
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  Speaker 5: let's hear the real one first.
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  Speaker 1: This is the real– this is what Dan was just
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  Speaker 1: attempting to do.
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  Speaker 5: This is the real Susan Waldman making a call here.
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  Speaker 5: Roger Clemens is in Georgia's box, and Roger Clemens is
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  Speaker 5: coming back. Oh, my goodness gracious. All right, Dan. Aaron
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  Speaker 5: Donald is in George's box. Goodness gracious. Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 5: Why are you giving him applause? I look over before
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  Speaker 5: Dan starts and he's like stretching his face out.
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  Speaker 4: He's getting ready for the Northeast accent, you know?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, you have to. Great job.
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  Speaker 3: That Yankee season, Stu, I got tickets before the season
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  Speaker 3: started to two games. One of them was to that
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  Speaker 3: game against the Mariners where Roger Clemens announced his comeback
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  Speaker 3: from George Steinbrenner's box. And the second game that I
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  Speaker 3: randomly had tickets to was against the Pirates where Roger
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  Speaker 3: Clemens made his debut back at Yankee Stadium. And when
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  Speaker 3: I went to Tahoe, I told Roger Clemens that story.
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  Speaker 3: He could still what I tell you, he couldn't care less.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 3: I told him that story and he looked right through
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  Speaker 3: me because his wife had just asked me to take
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  Speaker 3: a picture of him and of him and his wife
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: together with Lake Tahoe in the background. I was like, hey, Roger,
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: big Yankee fan back in 2007. This is what happened.
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: And he just looked at me, goes, just take the picture.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: I've taken that picture. I know exactly the hotel you're
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: speaking of. I've been in that restaurant. They eat breakfast
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: there every single morning. I have taken that picture of
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Roger and his wife. with the lake in the background.
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: I have.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: I've taken that same exact picture, and he wasn't listening
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: to me either. I was trying to small talk him.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Did it ever dawn on you when you're talking to
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: Roger Clemens to ask him to come on the show,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: or did you just.
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: Say, hey, Yanks, go Yanks, rock it? No.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: Stu, when I tell you he looked right through me
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: when I said that, the 12-year-old in me was very
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: excited about to tell Roger Clemens how big of a
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: Yankee fan I was. And he couldn't even give him–
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: if I asked Roger Clemens the time of day at
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: that moment, he would have spit on me.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: It's an amazing quality he has where he could be
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: in Lake Tahoe for five days and nobody sees him.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: It's also a heck of a lot easier to not
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: say anything than to say, just take the picture. Like
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: that is another level as well.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: He might as well have snarled that.
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: He gave you high heat.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: He was actively dismissing you. He could have passively done
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: it and just ignored it and fake that he didn't
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: hear it. But that is a next level jerk.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: I think he misremembers. No, definitely not. After I handed
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: him the phone back.
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: In my head, I said, I'm glad he's not in
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame.
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: Really?
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: You started insulting him. Just to yourself. Just to myself.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: I said, I think the Hall of Fame made a
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: good decision.
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: Internally, yes.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Is Drew Locke on the Mount Rushmore backup quarterbacks? Put
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: it on the poll, Taylor.
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: I think he is. Mr. Reliable, right? Drew Locke. I
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: think he is on the Mount Rushmore of backup quarterbacks.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Backup quarterback has become such an important position in the
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: NFL because the quarterback position is the most important position
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: in sports.
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: They get hit a lot.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: They go down occasionally and they get hurt occasionally. And
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: I'm telling if you remember, Dan, Patrick Mahomes went down
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: for a drive or two. And I think it was
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Damon Eward and Brock Eward's going to come on an
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: hour number two. But I think it was Damon Eward
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: who led them on a 98-yard drive.
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: It was not. It was somebody else.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: It was Chad Henney.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Chad Henney is on the Mount Rushmore backup quarterbacks. That's
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: who I was thinking of, yes.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: So Mount Rushmore has four spots.
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Nick Foles has to be on there.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Well, Nick Foles won a Super Bowl. Jeff Hostetler probably
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: has to be on there.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Hostetler's the second spot. And if you have Chad Henney,
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: now you're looking for a fourth spot.
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: I think it's Drew Locke.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: I feel like Gardner Minshew is our generation's backup. Like
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: right now, like the key is the backup quarterback. Like
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: Jacoby Brissett is good enough to now start for Arizona
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: where Minshew's, you know, backing up. I feel like Minshew
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: is our guy right now. But if Locke could have
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: this just for a couple more weeks, he could be
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: the guy. I mean, there is Minshew mania and all.
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Drew Locke has to be careful because, you know, you
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: get exposed when you start multiple games in the NFL.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Just take your quick stints, get in, get out. It's
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: kind of like the L.A.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Rams.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Hop off the bird, play football, hop back on the
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: bird and go home. Drew Locke doesn't want to start
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: 16 games.
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: No, you don't want to hire him full time. Just
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: give him a part time job on the weekends. That's right.
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: What is Ricardo muttering back there? I keep hearing Ricardo
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: in the background.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: He is upset that we have left someone off the
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore backup quarterbacks.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he keeps saying Earl Morrell.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: Oh, he's right.
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: Morrell.
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: Morrell.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Sorry. Sorry, I don't know the 1972 Miami Dolphins.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: The only undefeated team in the history of the NFL.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Bob Greasy went down. Earl Morrell came in. Preach. And
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: took him all the way to the Super Bowl. I
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: think Greasy came back for that Super Bowl.
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: But I don't think Earl Morrill should be on the
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore backup quarterbacks.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: I'm not even certain Hostetler should.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: I'm just thinking of guys who come in, they go out,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: they do their job, they keep you afloat, they get
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: you a W.
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: Davis Mills is the perfect example. That is the guy.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: He's a great backup.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: I think part of it, too, is you have to
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: have a good backup quarterback name, like Bubby Brister. Yeah.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: That's a great backup quarterback name.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Chris Sims has told us that backup quarterback is the
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: best position, best job in sports. You get paid seven figures,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: you hold a clipboard and nobody hits you. I mean, it's,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: it's hard to argue.
• 19:37
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• 19:40
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• 19:45
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• 20:02
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• 20:05
  Speaker 1: 877-99 on Fox. We have a ton of calls here. Again,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Patrick McEnroe. I finally get to talk some tennis. He's
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: going to join us in hour number two. Brock Eward
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: is going to join us in hour number two as well.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Does a local show. The biggest show in Seattle. Looking
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: forward to speaking to him about what transpired last night
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: and the status of Sam Darnold.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: Let's go out to John, who's in Iowa today. John,
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: go ahead. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: How are you guys doing this afternoon?
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: Good.
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: How are you, John? Good.
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: Good. say, you know, the whole, the, the, the Mount
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: Rushmore backup quarterbacks, you know, this guy didn't, didn't win
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: a championship, but I'm wondering if Frank Reich is worth
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: throwing into that conversation that he authored one of the biggest, well,
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: at the time it was the biggest comeback in NFL history.
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: And actually I think it was only recently eclipsed by
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: my Minnesota Vikings, maybe two or three seasons ago when
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: they came back massively against, I think it was the
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: Indianapolis Colts. But that game that Frank Wright.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: Came in, masterful.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Yes, automatically puts them on the Mount Rushmore of backup
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks just for that game and that game alone. I
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: believe it was a wild card game. They were down
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: big to the Oilers going into the second half. He
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: came in, he brought them back. That team went back
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl and, of course, lost. But Frank
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Wright is deserving, Dan, no doubt.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: And I also think that his quarterbacking career has followed
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: his coaching career better as an offensive coordinator than as
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: a head coach.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: You know what?
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: Frank Reich is your normal starter. He's good as the backup.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Maybe you don't want him as the head coach, but sure.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: Have him run an offense and he'll put that to
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: test this year with the Jets. So if the Jets
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: have any success, the theory ends up handing out.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: It is locked in concrete in ink.
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: Done.
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: A movable object versus the unstoppable force.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Something has to give. Ricardo, we'll get back to the
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: calls in a second. He has not stopped during the
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: break with Earl Morrill. And perhaps we should reconsider this.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: He did help the Dolphins to an undefeated season in
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. What else do you have for us, Ricardo,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: as his biggest fan?
• 22:18
  Speaker 9: Well, just looking him up on FootballReference.com, in 1968, he
• 22:22
  Speaker 9: went 13-1 as the backup quarterback at Baltimore for Johnny Unitas.
• 22:28
  Speaker 9: And then he actually played in the Super Bowl that
• 22:31
  Speaker 9: Namath beat you guys.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: So he's lost one game essentially as a starter. No, no, no, no.
• 22:36
  Speaker 9: As a starter, he went 63 and 36 in his career.
• 22:40
  Speaker 9: And these are backup quarterback stats right here. 161 touchdowns
• 22:44
  Speaker 9: and 148 interceptions.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: No, but what I'm saying is he came in for
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Johnny Unitas. They lost a single game. He came in
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: for Bob Greasy. They didn't lose any games. That's right.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: So if you don't start him, that's the key. And
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: our moral might have to be in consideration. Mount Rushmore
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: How about that?
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: And Kurt Warner is someone who was a backup quarterback,
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: but he was just disguised as one. He was a
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: Hall of Fame quarterback, but he just ended up. So
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: even though he started as a backup quarterback, some of
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: these guys do, but they're just not in that backup realm.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: It's a special sort of group. You either have it
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: or you don't.
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Let's go to Kurt, who's in Nevada today. Kurt,
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: go ahead. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: Hey, one of the greats who's also a field goal
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: kicker and had a single-bar face mask, George Blanda.
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: Oh, yes, Blanda. Back when football was football, right?
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: Yep, exactly.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: All right, thank you for the call. George Blanda. Listen,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: you never know what's going to get the phones ringing.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: And I had no idea that Mount Rushmore of backup quarterbacks.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: And we should be playing the sound of Taylor saying
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: black up quarterback on Martin Luther King Day.
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: But somehow we haven't gotten to it yet. But this
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: is the thing. Backup quarterback.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Backup quarterback. Black backup quarterback. No disrespect to George Blanda.
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: What about backup quarterback?
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: When you say that, you're about to disrespect someone, just
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: so you know.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: I don't respect anybody whose helmet looks like something they
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: bought from Toys R Us. It looks like such a
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: cheap helmet. That's what they were wearing back in the day?
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: A one-step evolution from the leather helmet, what George Blanda
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: was wearing.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't even say back in the day. Joe Theismann
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: wore that helmet in the 80s.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: He did. Single bar.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at a picture of George Blanda playing quarterback.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: I'm assuming he's like 29 in this photo. He looks
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: like he's 45.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: Oh, wow.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: He played until he was 48.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: He did. It was a different time.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: That's a testament to how bad football was back then.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: How old was Brady? Brady, technically a backup Brady, by
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: the way, to Drew Bledsoe.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: Fair enough. Yes, the only quarterback on both Mount Rushmore's.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Gatz and
• 25:05
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• 25:10
  Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Brock, you are going to join us in about 10
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: minutes or so. Patrick McEnroe, I finally get to talk
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: some tennis.
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: U.S.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Open has been great. Taylor and Mikey A. will not
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: indulge me. So therefore, I had to go to my
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: friend Patrick McEnroe to talk some U.S.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: Open tennis.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: We do have a call here, 877-99 on Fox. Again,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Brock Eward, Patrick McEnroe coming up later this hour. Taylor
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: just said to me in my headphones right before we
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: got started, if Cooper Rush starts for the Falcons... I
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: am not turning that game on.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: If my two options were watch tennis or watch Falcons
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: with Cooper Rush against the Steelers.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Then I'm with you, Stu. I'm choosing tennis every time.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: The only reason you're tuning into the Falcons because they
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: have a talented team and good players at the skill position.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: And Bijan Robinson was on with us earlier this week.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: But you want to see if Tua could turn it around.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I have no interest in watching Cooper Rush try
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: to keep them afloat.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: A rush to change the channel. That's what it would be.
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: No, he's flatly saying it's never landing on his television.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Won't even get quad box consideration.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: Let's go out to Michael, who's in Virginia today. Michael,
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: go ahead. You're on Fox Sports Radio.
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: Hey, Steve Dodge. First time caller. Just want to appreciate
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: you're doing a very good job. I love the show.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: Thank you, buddy. Appreciate it.
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: So, this backup... One of the reasons why he's in
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: the Hall of Fame, not the reason why, there's many
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: reasons why he was above it, but one of the
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: reasons why he's in the Hall of Fame was because,
• 26:48
  Speaker 8: and this guy is Steve Young, he was backing up
• 26:50
  Speaker 8: Joe Montana for like one or two seasons before he
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: became the starter. And he got a ring.
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: Yes, yes.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Right, but I don't recall Young ever coming in as
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: a true backup. I feel like Young was just waiting
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: his turn until Montana left.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: Is that fair?
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but it was like one or two, maybe three seasons.
• 27:08
  Speaker 8: He was just there as backup. And he also, he
• 27:10
  Speaker 8: was the highest paid backup at the time when he
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: was backing up the, you know, the all-time great Joe Montana.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: If we count Steve Young, it feels like we would
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: almost have to count Aaron Rodgers backing up Brett Favre
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: for a couple of years.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Or Brady backing up Bledsoe for that first season, right?
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: It's got to be a true backup, a guy who's
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: just not good enough to start, but when he comes in,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: he gets the job done.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: A backup quarterback's name has to make you laugh a little,
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: like Charlie Batch.
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: Perfect. Yes, yes, Charlie Batch. Jason Garrett.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, who's benefited more from being a backup quarterback
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: with the Cowboys than Jason Garrett?
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: Nobody has.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: He parlayed it into head coaching jobs and a position
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: at NBC Sports.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Taylor feels like Jason Garrett is. Do you agree with this, Dan?
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Why don't you give him your Jason Garrett take here?
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: It's laugh out loud funny.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Jason Garrett.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: Oh, I'm sorry.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Jason Garrett reminds me of an alien who's dressed in
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: a human suit.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: And when he gets back to the hotel, he unzips
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: his skin. What a long day.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Really fooled the humans today.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Dan is a professional broadcaster and you are one, the
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: only one on this show. How'd you feel about Tomlin's
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: performance at.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: NBC last night? Solid. I think he's good. Really? Yep. Okay.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I have him coaching the Jets by week five. Brock,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: you are going to join us coming up next.