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10-6 H3: Gene Steratore Joins, Everett Fitzhugh Stops By & Seahawks RB's · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: All right, 8 o'clock hour here on this Tuesday. You
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  Speaker 1: know what that means. It's our weekly conversation with the
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  Speaker 1: greatest NFL official of all time, current CBS Sports rules
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  Speaker 1: analyst during their NFL and college coverage. And every week
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  Speaker 1: we get a chance to chat with Gene Steratore. But
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  Speaker 1: I think our audience has been more looking forward to
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  Speaker 1: this week with Gene than any week. And Gene's already like, great,
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  Speaker 1: let me buckle up for this. We've got a lot
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  Speaker 1: to discuss today, sir. A lot to discuss.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we sure do, Chuck. You know, even though I
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  Speaker 2: have to live this world where, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, I was a ref all those decades, and if
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  Speaker 3: everything was going great, nobody wanted to talk to me
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  Speaker 3: or know what was going on. It seems like you
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  Speaker 3: become really popular when everybody thinks the.
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  Speaker 2: House is burning down. So I guess, you know, as
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  Speaker 2: my late.
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  Speaker 4: Father said, look, if they're paying attention to you for
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  Speaker 4: 10 minutes for something, then consider yourself lucky.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah. Here we go. Let's have at it.
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  Speaker 1: Think of yourself as a firefighter, Gene. That would probably
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  Speaker 1: make your grandma proud that you became a firefighter. You're
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  Speaker 1: going to put out the fire here today.
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  Speaker 2: We want to be a firefighter, Chuck. We don't want
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  Speaker 2: to be the arsonist, right?
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: We want to be the firefighter.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well, let's get into a few things. Let's
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  Speaker 1: talk about the big headline because this is one of
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  Speaker 1: the big headlines in the NFL. We don't see this
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  Speaker 1: happen a lot. The NFL has suspended two officials, I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure friends of yours or at least acquaintances, Jeff Seaman,
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  Speaker 1: who was caught on camera telling a player, dropping a
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  Speaker 1: couple F-bombs in his direction, and then Adrian Hill. who
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  Speaker 1: is a gene steritor. I mean, he's the guy making
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  Speaker 1: the calls on the field, for goodness sake. And he
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  Speaker 1: got knocked to the ground, got up, was very demonstrative
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  Speaker 1: in yelling at the player that had accidentally hit him.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't even his fault. And that got caught on
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  Speaker 1: camera as well. And so for their conduct, Seaman was
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  Speaker 1: suspended by the league for two games. Hill suspended for
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  Speaker 1: one game altogether. I won't lead you in any specific direction.
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  Speaker 1: I just am interested your thoughts on how the NFL
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  Speaker 1: handled those two situations.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, both, both officials, not only, uh, colleagues and peers
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  Speaker 4: of mine, uh, both were on my crew, uh, for
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  Speaker 4: multiple years. So, uh, definitely have relationships with both are
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  Speaker 4: good men and, and, and they're human.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, and again, I, it's, we saw what television captured, uh,
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  Speaker 4: It's not a great look.
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  Speaker 2: It's not something that any official really wants to.
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  Speaker 4: Have occur in those types of situations at all.
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  Speaker 2: I can assure you of that. We're human.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not in defense of that kind of back and forth. Also,
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  Speaker 4: can't tell you that. Was that conversation in its own vacuum,
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  Speaker 4: you know, with the verbal back and forth that we saw?
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  Speaker 4: Was there things that occurred throughout this game where there
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  Speaker 4: just was some that back and forth, which quite frankly
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  Speaker 4: happens constantly, Chuck, on the field? You know, you look,
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  Speaker 4: you're a referee in one of the most intense sporting
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  Speaker 4: events that are played. where collisions are expected, right? Imposing
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  Speaker 4: your will isn't expected. Players playing to the edge of
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  Speaker 4: intensity is required. So you do have human beings out
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  Speaker 4: there on the edge. And as an official, you kind
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  Speaker 4: of want to encourage that. That's what makes them great.
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  Speaker 4: But there's a trust place there, right? Where when they
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  Speaker 4: step over that line where you think it's this and
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  Speaker 4: not good for the game, they have to trust you're
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  Speaker 4: going to interject. Now, granted, Again, they're all human. If
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  Speaker 4: players said things to me that I didn't like, yeah, sure,
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  Speaker 4: they did. Coaches, most definitely. How we temper that, how
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  Speaker 4: we address it is where you get into different levels.
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  Speaker 4: And unfortunately, in this situation, addressing it like that, having
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  Speaker 4: it captured the way it is, this isn't good for
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  Speaker 4: the game. I'm sure that all officials would understand that.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm not excusing the behavior, right? So when these
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  Speaker 4: things show themselves, action should be taken. And they decided
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  Speaker 4: to take those actions. As I said, I don't know
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  Speaker 4: the backstory to the entire engagement between player and official
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  Speaker 4: throughout the day. It doesn't excuse what we saw. And
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  Speaker 4: that's what will come out or maybe not come out.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm sure that'll be discussed as we move forward
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  Speaker 4: from the officiating thing. What's the most important part in
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  Speaker 4: Adrian's play? Look, you're running in there. You got two
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  Speaker 4: big guys that are way bigger and stronger than you
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  Speaker 4: and you want to break them up. And unfortunately now
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  Speaker 4: that collision or those big people.
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  Speaker 2: Go a different direction than you anticipated.
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  Speaker 4: And, uh, you, you know, you're, you're, you're on your
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  Speaker 4: bucket with your feet in the air and you're hitting
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  Speaker 4: your head hard or whatever that is.
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  Speaker 2: And you're an older gentleman and you bounce up and
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  Speaker 2: you're not happy.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, I understand that, um, the gesturing, the pointing, uh,
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  Speaker 4: the showing of that type of, of emotion, right. it's,
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  Speaker 4: it's just something that we normally don't see from officials. So, um,
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  Speaker 4: that's not something that you want to convey either from,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't want to speak for them. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know how he was saying gestures mean things, uh, behaviors
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  Speaker 4: mean things.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, and, and the.
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  Speaker 4: Unfortunate situation is we had a handful of those types
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  Speaker 4: of things or more than one of those isolated incidents
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  Speaker 4: at one time. And the league has taken their actions and, uh,
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  Speaker 4: And you respect that, and now you allow those people
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  Speaker 4: to discuss what they do and how they move forward.
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  Speaker 2: Most importantly now, it's moving forward.
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  Speaker 4: It is the player-official interaction, which is extremely important and
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  Speaker 4: happens all the time, nonstop. That's my bigger concern, truthfully,
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  Speaker 4: at this point, right? Where are we this coming week?
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  Speaker 4: How are those engagements, which happen all game? They have
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  Speaker 4: to continue to be in that trusting back and forth
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  Speaker 4: between two differing elements on the field but human beings
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  Speaker 4: at that level.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the goal now.
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  Speaker 4: Is let's push forward and continue to keep these open channels.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand the discipline, and I was actually happy
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  Speaker 1: that the NFL didn't just outright protect them. And did
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  Speaker 1: make an example of it. But I would also defend
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  Speaker 1: the officials a little bit here, too. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: think this is just Gene Steratore's influence on me. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: how often are there exchanges that take place?
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  Speaker 7: I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Teammates cuss at each other all the time. These aren't
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  Speaker 1: some wilting flowers that have never seen any more than
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  Speaker 1: a PG-13 movie. I would imagine a lot of these
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  Speaker 1: little exchanges have occurred. This one just happened to get
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  Speaker 1: caught on camera. And I'm not going to have some
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  Speaker 1: big bleeding heart for Trey McBride that an official cussed
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  Speaker 1: at him, that same official that probably got cussed at
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  Speaker 1: 55 times by different players on the field that day.
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  Speaker 2: Very possibly true, right?
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  Speaker 4: And I will say this, as I got better with
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  Speaker 4: my experience, too, and basketball helped me from the 80
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  Speaker 4: games a year I was working, I was a master
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  Speaker 4: of folding the arms and putting one of the hands
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  Speaker 4: over the mouth region. whenever we were having conversations so
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  Speaker 4: there was a subtle art to the pensive folding of
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  Speaker 4: the arms with one hand that just covered the mouth
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  Speaker 4: and then the hand disappeared and that we were back
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  Speaker 4: to play and again so uh there's an art to
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  Speaker 4: conveying some messages at times as well so when.
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  Speaker 1: You said that i'm like i could picture that i
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  Speaker 1: think i remember seeing you do that a few times.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, there's a few of those out there in the ether, Chuck,
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  Speaker 2: for sure.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: All right. So let me talk about the thing that
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  Speaker 1: did bother me more. And you already know this about me.
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  Speaker 1: My biggest problem with officials are ones that make themselves
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  Speaker 1: too big a part of the game. Um, we got
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  Speaker 1: to win here in Seattle Sunday, but if I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: watching the Seahawks, I would have turned that off and
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  Speaker 1: probably watched Bob beat Bobby Flay, uh, or something, anything
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  Speaker 1: else other than football, because, um, as Rex Ryan put
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  Speaker 1: it yesterday, there's about one thing that can ruin the
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  Speaker 1: NFL watching experience. And that is over officiating by, uh,
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  Speaker 1: an NFL referee crew. We had 30 penalties thrown. on
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  Speaker 1: Sunday in our game against the Chargers. It was on CBS.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that you are monitoring that game yourself.
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  Speaker 1: And look, a lot of those were earned, as we've
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  Speaker 1: pointed out. A lot of those were earned. Maybe most
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  Speaker 1: of them were, maybe a large percentage of them were earned.
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  Speaker 1: But I also think that that crew set the tone
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  Speaker 1: that they were going to call a really tight shift
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  Speaker 1: And then the next thing you know, Gene, it ends
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  Speaker 1: up being a little bit too much after the whistle.
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  Speaker 1: And the combination of the two things led to a
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  Speaker 1: game that lasted 45 minutes too long. And there was
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  Speaker 1: way too much Scott Novak in my life on Sunday, Gene.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand it. And listen, as you said, The
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  Speaker 2: officials hate it, I can promise you.
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  Speaker 4: They really do. I never like to throw out that
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  Speaker 4: there is no agenda, but there's a sweet spot, right?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, if we end up with a dozen fouls
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  Speaker 4: throughout the course of the game, hopefully eight of them
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  Speaker 4: are just simple five fouls, offsides, false start, illegal motion,
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  Speaker 4: and maybe there's three or four plays that require the flag,
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  Speaker 4: and there's holds here, there's a pass interference here.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's the sweet spot. That's how the game moves, flows.
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  Speaker 4: It appears that we've officiated and gotten just the big fouls. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: were there a couple no calls there that maybe could
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  Speaker 4: have gone this way, but they let them play. That's
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  Speaker 4: the best thing we could all live for. Viewer, player, coach, official,
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  Speaker 4: trust me. But then you end up in some of
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  Speaker 4: these types of games, and I'm not defending all of
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  Speaker 4: the calls, I'm sure. if the one thing that happens
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  Speaker 4: to now you've had 30 flags, you can be sure
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  Speaker 4: that anything that was like that 50-50 marginal play that
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  Speaker 4: was called now, that will be frowned upon by that
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  Speaker 4: crew as well.
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  Speaker 2: Because they know they're in that. That's part of being
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  Speaker 2: in that moment.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't mean, hey, there were three false starts and
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  Speaker 4: two offsides in the last series. let's make sure we
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  Speaker 4: don't throw anything this next time they get the ball,
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  Speaker 4: whoever it is, so we don't have to stop the game. No,
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  Speaker 4: that's not happening, but there is a feel there. Again,
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  Speaker 4: it's a whale fish for the big stuff, not the
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  Speaker 4: little stuff.
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  Speaker 8: If they're the kind of mental unforced errors, false starts,
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  Speaker 8: they're lined up in the neutral zone, they're illegal formations.
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  Speaker 4: If I had two or three of those in a series,
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  Speaker 4: sometimes I might even lean in the huddle if there
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  Speaker 4: were two offensive simple fives like that that just stop
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  Speaker 4: the game and.
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  Speaker 2: Just kind of say real quick, let's go, fellas.
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  Speaker 6: Come on.
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  Speaker 2: Here we go.
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  Speaker 6: Come on.
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  Speaker 4: Let's get back in that rhythm, kind of like a cheerleader,
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  Speaker 4: knowing that that occurs. Look, when you're really aware of
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  Speaker 4: this business, if you have a false start in the NFL,
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  Speaker 4: just think about it. A simple false start means the
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  Speaker 4: play clock was at 40 when the last play ended.
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  Speaker 4: Most times they bleed the play clock down to six
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  Speaker 4: or seven seconds. So we've had 35 seconds of no action.
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  Speaker 2: Now we have a false start.
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  Speaker 4: If that referee takes too long to announce the false
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  Speaker 4: start and all this, and we now push that another
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  Speaker 4: 25 seconds, then he winds the clock from 25 down
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  Speaker 4: to six again. We all just sat for a minute
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  Speaker 4: and 35 seconds without a play. And then, God forbid,
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  Speaker 4: now we have another foul right then that stops the snap.
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  Speaker 4: We could be two minutes out of not seeing another
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  Speaker 4: six-second play.
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  Speaker 2: That's palpable.
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  Speaker 4: As an official, you feel that if you're tuned in.
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  Speaker 4: And you don't want it to happen. So I encourage
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  Speaker 4: when we would have those mental breakdowns. And then, quite frankly,
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  Speaker 4: not to push it anywhere. Is some of this a
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  Speaker 4: result of a shorter preseason? The starters really didn't play
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  Speaker 4: all preseason together.
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  Speaker 2: So are we having more of these type.
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  Speaker 4: Of, you know, administrative type files, these little quick mental
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  Speaker 4: ones now than we've had in the past?
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  Speaker 2: I can't answer that.
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  Speaker 4: And then another one of the bigger questions is, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 4: there were 30 flags in that game.
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  Speaker 2: And there were more flags, I think, from some of the.
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  Speaker 4: Data that I've seen through news in the last 48
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  Speaker 4: hours that may be some of the most penalized week
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  Speaker 4: ever in the history of the NFL. How many of
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  Speaker 4: these plays are we talking about that happened over the
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  Speaker 4: last weekend that weren't called?
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: How many no calls were there as opposed to they
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  Speaker 4: just threw a bunch of flags? So there's a there's
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  Speaker 4: a there's a dance here. The NFL always preaches, as
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  Speaker 4: do all good supervisors, in my opinion. take breaths, let
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  Speaker 4: plays happen. There's areas in there where it's not like
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  Speaker 4: we can let him get away with it, but was
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  Speaker 4: it enough to really.
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  Speaker 2: Start to draw that line in the game? Let's make
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  Speaker 2: sure they're big fouls and then let the game unfold.
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  Speaker 2: From there, last week was.
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  Speaker 4: I can't say overly too technical, but unprecedented in the
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  Speaker 4: amount of fouls. So everybody's going to be pinned back
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  Speaker 4: more now. Let's make this stuff big, and hopefully let's
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  Speaker 4: get these players and teams to not have these simple
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  Speaker 4: five fouls that slow down the movement of the game.
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  Speaker 1: You know, every time we have a week like this,
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  Speaker 1: you see fan reaction of, They must have had a
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  Speaker 1: meeting since last week, and they were instructed to be tighter,
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  Speaker 1: to call more penalties. Does that ever happen? And if so,
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  Speaker 1: would that be an explanation for why there were more
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  Speaker 1: flags on Sunday?
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  Speaker 4: The message is always, let's make sure all the fouls
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  Speaker 4: are big. So the message is never the opposite or
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  Speaker 4: what you.
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  Speaker 2: See in the snow.
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  Speaker 4: Social sphere or whatever they start to put out there
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  Speaker 4: in the conspiracy theory, things like that.
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  Speaker 2: No, that isn't the case with that.
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  Speaker 4: Said, if you start to see, uh, Receivers pushing off
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  Speaker 4: at the top of the route subtly, but Hey, it's
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  Speaker 4: trending where they're pushing.
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  Speaker 2: A little more than, than they should be.
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  Speaker 4: Or, or there's something there now that yes, we let
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  Speaker 4: them do this little one, but Hey, you know what?
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  Speaker 2: The players and teams, they're all watching.
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  Speaker 4: And saying, it doesn't feel like they're really calling this
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  Speaker 4: that much. Let's push the envelope, because it seems like
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  Speaker 4: they're not lax there, but they're giving us some wiggle room.
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  Speaker 4: It's a copycat league, so now you may start to
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  Speaker 4: see something like those types of plays start to trend
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  Speaker 4: more as the season evolves, and now you.
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  Speaker 2: Recognize that as you're breaking things down.
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  Speaker 4: So when that occurs, then it's not like, hey, we're
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  Speaker 4: letting them hold too much, so everybody starts calling holds,
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  Speaker 4: but It may be that, listen, when we see this action,
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  Speaker 4: this action we feel has risen to the level of
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  Speaker 4: enough material effect to be a foul, and we've seen
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  Speaker 4: this repeat for two or three weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Let's make sure we're in that.
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  Speaker 4: Teams would be alerted of that too if the NFL
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  Speaker 4: officiating department felt like something was trending and copycatting and
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  Speaker 4: not good for the game. So the teams would also
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  Speaker 4: be alerted before there would be then kind of a
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  Speaker 4: message like, We need not to clamp down, but we
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  Speaker 4: need to pay a little more attention on this type
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  Speaker 4: of action. It's risen now that we need to call
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  Speaker 4: a foul here, right? Because we don't want it to
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  Speaker 4: get out of hand.
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  Speaker 2: So that's how you keep this thing ever evolving.
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  Speaker 4: But the teams are aware, the players are aware, and
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  Speaker 4: then eventually the officials are understanding that what we may
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  Speaker 4: have thought wasn't the line has now become the line.
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  Speaker 2: So we kind of all move through this together as well.
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  Speaker 1: Just one more question on this. Um, personally, I mean, what,
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  Speaker 1: what was your philosophy? If you felt like, did you,
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  Speaker 1: if you started a game, like this is how I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to call it. And then I'm going to stick
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  Speaker 1: with it all the way to the end come hell
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  Speaker 1: or high water, whether I throw 25 fat flags today,
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  Speaker 1: or if I don't throw two, or did you ever
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  Speaker 1: adjust on the fly? Like, man, this is getting out
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  Speaker 1: of hand. I got to like crack down on this,
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  Speaker 1: or I got to loosen this thing up because we're
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  Speaker 1: calling way too many flags. Did that, did that happen
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  Speaker 1: to you regularly ever? I mean, how, how did you
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  Speaker 1: handle that?
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  Speaker 2: I never felt like I had to loosen it up, right?
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  Speaker 4: You would encourage if you felt like there was a
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  Speaker 4: lot of fouls and all of them were there. I
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  Speaker 4: was very, very aware, and some of this, again, was
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  Speaker 4: my bridging in basketball. You knew when you had a
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  Speaker 4: ticky-tack foul that wasn't a good whistle, and you knew
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  Speaker 4: you might get some guff from the sideline about it.
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  Speaker 2: Be transparent. You know what, coach?
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  Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not disagreeing with you here. Now, we're
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: going to make sure everything that happens from here on.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Now, we can't be repeating it. Two wrongs don't make
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: a right.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: Now, in the event that you want, I was a
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: communicator that had a longer fuse and I wanted players
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: to be emotional.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: And if they weren't listening in both sports, I'd verbally
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: let them know.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: You put your hand over your mouth that you.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Would let them know. Yeah, I mean, yeah, kind of
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: you did.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: But, you know, you did want to get that message
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: to them.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: I thought it was fair to let them know that.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: I felt like it would be unfair if we lived
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: with this long fuse throughout this period of.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Time and then all of a sudden, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. No, no,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: I called you down for dinner twice. You're not listening.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: The third time, I'm not calling. I'm just coming up
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: the steps to get you, right? So I think that's fair.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: And I think players, I never had a player tell
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: me that he did not like knowing that.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: And I've had those discussions, right? They want to be
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: alerted and aware. Where is this line?
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: And so many things, emotionally especially, especially in that case.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: So there is that dance. That's the art of the business.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: But you've got to get the plays right. Because when
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: we start missing layups, man, in any game, you miss
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: two easy calls in the first half of a football game.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: You come out for the second half. Don't think that
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: the country, the world.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: Or anybody is going to give you any love on
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: a 50-50 play from.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: This point on.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: And quite frankly, you earn the right to be criticized
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: on every close play because of what you did in
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: the first half.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: That's part of the business.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: As a staff now, the NFL, in my opinion, and
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: officiating now, when you have a tough week, It's like
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: almost having a tough first half in a game now.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: So we had a tough week this week. That makes
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: this upcoming.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: Week one where you should expect all the country not
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: to go with you or trust you in any 50-50
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: play for this coming week, but we have to earn
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: it back. You earn it back now, right? And that's
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: part of how this business evolves. And these are not
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: easy things to do either.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: So really, everybody will be on the game. Interesting.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I got a couple more. We're going to have to
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: be quick on this. As a matter of fact, the
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: USC Washington, there was a P I call in a
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: big moment that went against the dogs. And I think
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: that we know it's pretty cut and dry. And we
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: just want to hear from the greatest official of all
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: time that they.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Screwed that up. Miss it's a miss, right? It's not
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: just a miss by that official either.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: And quite frankly, when you see misses like that, that's
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: a miss on the team. There's two other officials that
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: transitioned to that football at the end may not have
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: been their players when the ball was snapped, but by
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: the time that ball went in the air, There's a
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: couple other officials that moved from their players to that ball,
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: and you saw action there. Now, don't let somebody who
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: may have gotten fooled or got the jerseys wrong go
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: down the rabbit hole of then pushing down a bad result.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: There are other people involved. So, yes, miss, not just
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: by that one individual. Miss by a couple people. And
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: miss is you don't want to see your crew break
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: down because people have reactions and make mistakes, but that's
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: when you need help.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: That's when you need somebody to come in and in.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: A huge pressure situation look at you and say tell
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: me what you called what did you see i saw
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: this that's not what happened i watched it this is
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: what happened trust me we're in this moment there's 80
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: 000 we've got to change this right now can you
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: do that can you trust me so breakdown team was Great.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Great.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it makes anybody feel any better
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: because they're not going to change it now.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: That's for sure. None of these dudes, Chuck.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: No, exactly.
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: And we close out all of our conversations with a
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: good example of officiating. And I'm going to nominate. I
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: don't know if you watch Sunday Night Football, but there
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: was a. Tet McMillan catch on the sideline where he
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: was pretty much perpendicular to the ground and somehow got
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: both toes scraped across. I didn't think there was any
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: chance that he caught it, and I certainly didn't think
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: there was any chance that the official was going to
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: believe that he caught it. And the official called it
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: a catch. We saw the review, and damn if he
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: didn't catch it. So credit. I don't even know who
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: it was, but the Sunday Night Crew got another one.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir, Chuck.
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: Eugene Hall, Eugene Hall, good official. He has a Superbowl ring.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: Eugene Hall saw it all the way. And look, happened
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: to me my first year, Wayne Corbett. Played very similar.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: I completely missed it. Was waving incomplete. The challenge flag
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: was in the air before I waved incomplete for the
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: second time. And Coach Parcells looked at that veteran official
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: that was in front of him. When I waved incomplete,
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: the red flag was in the air before it hit
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: the ground. Coach Parcells said, Tom, tell this rookie in
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: this league, when in doubt, they did it.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: That's how good they are.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: I never forgot it.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: So anytime I had plays like that where my brain said, humanly,
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: this is impossible. breathe it's the nfl he did it
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: real catch and you're probably right both times did not
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: because uh uh it's amazing what they can do and
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: even more special in this house for somebody to digest
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: and see it and prove everybody wrong even after you
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: know a hundred replays frame by frame so yeah shout
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: out to eugene hall last week.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: You said that before. I didn't know it was the
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: origin to your philosophy stemmed back to Parcells. Now I've
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: got the story as well. You just keep adding layers
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: to this.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: I love it. All right, Gene.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Well, hopefully a better week ahead. But we have a
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: great conversation every week. So thank you very much, sir.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: We appreciate it.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Chuck. Have a great week.
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Gene Steratore joining us here on the program. CBS rules analyst.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: His segment brought to you by the Emerald Queen Casino.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Everett Fitzhughes back on Tuesday. He joins us next. Sports
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Radio 93.3 KJR FM. Oh, great morning to you. And
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: now we're getting back into the rhythm of the hockey season.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: And that means an Everett Fits You conversation every week
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: at this time on Sports Radio 93.3 KJRF. And the
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: voice of the Kraken already in form. Oh, my gosh.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Do you sound great with Al? So we appreciate you
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: joining us here this morning.
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: Oh, morning.
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: Always a pleasure to talk about some winning hockey. It
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: feels good to have a 2-1 team tied for second.
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: Stop the count. We're going to playoffs.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. I'm going to tell you
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: this much. I don't know how good the Kraken are
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: going to be this year, but I can tell you
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: right now they are a lot better than the Calgary Flames.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I'll say that.
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: They are.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: They are.
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: But hey, listen. You can't help the schedule. You have
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: to play the teams that you're given. You have to
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: beat the teams that you're given. I don't think the
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: Seahawks are... are taking Sunday's win any less because it
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: was against the Chargers, right? You don't want to be
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: sitting here in the end of April seven points, six
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: points out of a playoff spot knowing that you left
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: four games on the table between Calgary, Vancouver, teams who
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: aren't supposed to be very good this season. So you've
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: got to handle your business. In the first three games
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: of the season, they've handled their business twice, and I
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: will say they did look pretty good in that loss
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: against Edmonton, I mean, really it was, they overcame the
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: first period. They couldn't stay out of the box. But
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: other than that, I mean, it wasn't a terrible game
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: in Edmonton, but they just couldn't generate enough offense.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Well, 13 goals in three games. I mean, scored, what,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: four goals every game in the preseason as well, or
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: practically did. I mean, I don't know. I don't read
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: too much into preseason. Certainly three games is a small
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: sample size, and it looks like Calgary's not going to
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: be very good this season, but can we kind of
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: read into it that maybe some things have gotten fixed
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: offensively here for the 2026-27 version of Seattle?
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, you can guarantee at least four goals a night.
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think that should be standard. That should
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: be the bar. No, seriously, I do think that there
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: has been more of an emphasis on on shooting the
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: puck this offseason and this training camp. And I think
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: a lot of that comes from just you've got second-year
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: Lane Lambert. This was something that he tried to instill
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: last year. You're trying to break old habits, things that
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: you want your teams to do. Well, it's kind of
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: hard to do that if you haven't had a lot
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: of time with that team. So now you've had a
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: full offseason. You've had a full training camp. A full
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: preseason times two now with Lane Lambert. So there has
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: been more of an emphasis on shooting the puck. And
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: I also think when you add in a Bobby McMahon
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: who has not met a shot in this world he
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: doesn't like, he would shoot from anywhere. We saw Mackie
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: Samuskiewicz in that game against Calgary two nights ago using
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: the speed and the skill that he possesses that... was
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: why the Kraken were happy to give up a first
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: round pick for him because they knew the kind of
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: player that he could be. And then also there's that expectation,
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: I think, from the Matty Beneers, from Shane Wright, even
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: Jared McCann, who doesn't have a goal yet, but he's
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: got forces. He's done a lot of good things offensively
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: so far this season. There's been this expectation of we
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: need to look internally for more goal scoring. We have
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: to step it up. It's the we coming from the
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: coaching staff, but it's the we coming from the individual
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: players looking at themselves in the mirror and saying, I
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: have to do more. I need to do more. Berkeley
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: Catton probably should have four or five goals already this season.
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: His confidence has been through the roof these first three games.
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: You're looking at a team that's got more confidence. You're
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: looking at a team that now fully understands the system
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: and what Lane Lambert is trying to do here because
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: you've got him now for a second season with a
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: largely unchanged roster which we talked about last week potentially
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: that could be a good thing that doesn't always necessarily
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: mean it's a bad thing so I do think there
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: has been more emphasis on on shooting more and generating
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: more offense What about the kid line?
• 27:32
  Speaker 9: That's been a huge kind of talking point through the
• 27:34
  Speaker 9: first couple games of the season. Shane Wright, Berkeley Katton,
• 27:37
  Speaker 9: and now Kapo Kako on with them. So talk about
• 27:41
  Speaker 9: how they have kind of meshed in the early season
• 27:44
  Speaker 9: and how high can their ceiling get this year?
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: Well, Wright and Katton played together quite a bit last year.
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: Those were the pair. That was the pair that was together.
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: Lane Lambert likes to find pairs on each line that works.
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: and then maybe change up the winger now and again.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: Exactly, right?
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: And it works. But Shane Wright and Berkley Catton, they've
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: been together quite a bit last year, obviously this year.
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: They have a lot of speed. Shane Wright came into
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: this training camp in really good shape. He had a
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: renewed excitement and confidence. I think that he got tired
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: of all the noise and the nonsense that was out
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: there over the summer. And I said it last week, right?
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: I don't think he's trying to prove anyone wrong. I
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: think he's trying to prove Seattle, right. And say, listen, they,
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: this team stuck by me. They didn't trade me. They
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: didn't listen to all the noise. And here we are.
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: So I think Katman, right. They played really good together.
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: Katman's confidence is growing. I said it last year, uh,
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: Every single night, he did something that left you believing
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: that this is going to be that superstar of the
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: future for this team. And you've seen it through the
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: first three games. That speed that they have, their ability
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: to find their way to the net, I get it.
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: Small sample size, only three games. But, I mean, they're
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: doing a lot of things right early on. They're looking
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: mid-season form early on. And then you add Kapo Kako
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: on that line, who is a shooter. who can get
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: to the net, who can win battles for you. I
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: think that really is kind of the secret sauce for
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: the Kraken right now, is that line and the youthfulness
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: and the energy that they bring. And I will say this,
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: Ryan Winterton was on that line for a little bit
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: earlier in the year as well, the first game of
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: the year as well. And Al and I talk about Winterton.
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: Once he truly figures out just how fast he is,
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: and uses that speed more to his advantage, Ryan Winterton
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: is going to be a very dangerous player in this league.
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: They drafted him thinking that he could be kind of
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: like that Jaden Schwartz 2.0, right? He could get to
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: the net. He can win battles. He's going to score
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: a goal off his face if he has to, right?
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: And I think that just comes with maturity. That comes
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: with more games and getting older in the league. But
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: I think once Winterton... And I think he's starting to
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: get there. He's fast. And once he realizes, oh man,
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: I've got speed to burn, I think he's going to
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: be a very dangerous player for this lineup.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: What you're telling me is Winterton is coming? Is that what.
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: You're telling me? Winterton is coming.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Finally, someone who joins our show that knows Game of Thrones. Right, right.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Somebody that actually has some pop culture relevance here. Or
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: the anti-Greg Bell on this show.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Right now, if it fits you.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: All right, so tonight those dastardly Las Vegas Golden Knights
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: are in town. And here's an opportunity to prove we're
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: going to beat more than the Calgary Flames this season.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: So what's this going to come down to tonight?
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, this is going to be very similar
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: to the Edmonton game. You're going up against a team
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: that's got more skill. They've got size. They've got good goaltending.
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: I mean, listen, Calgary, they are who we thought they were, right?
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: It's going to be a struggling year for them. You
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: feel bad for them because it's the last year of
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: their historic building and you want things to go right.
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: But unfortunately, they're a team that's going to take a
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: lot of their lumps this season. So if you're Seattle,
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: You need to put together a very similar performance that
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: you had in Edmonton. You won puck battles. You were
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: able to skate with elite McDavid and Dreisaitl. You're going
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: to have the same with Eichel and Marner as well tonight. Vegas,
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: they're coming off of a loss a couple of nights ago.
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: So I think that for Seattle, if they can win
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: this game, if it's close, if they can show all
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: of the things that they did in the Calgary games,
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: weren't just, Oh, we're playing Calgary. So we're going to
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: win this game, which I think they can, the Kraken
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: can win this game. And I think this would go
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: a long way and, and maybe not silencing the narrative,
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: but definitely quieting that narrative a little bit of the
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: Kraken just aren't going to be very good. If they
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: can win some of these early season games, it's a
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: pretty tough schedule for the crack in the next couple
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: of weeks because I mean, you've got Detroit twice. They're struggling.
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: Philly's 0-4. But you've got Washington in there. You've got
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: both Florida teams. And then you come back home. I
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: know Toronto's on the schedule once you're back home. I
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: think San Jose before you go off to Finland. So
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: that pre-Finland schedule for Seattle... isn't easy there are some
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: some games that you should win but tomorrow is one
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: of those or tonight rather is one of those games
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: that if you're a playoff team you want to call
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: yourself a contender you got to beat the best and
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: for the last couple of years the golden knights have
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: been the best.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Six o'clock starts 5 30 pre-game with a great mike
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: benton um we will be tuned in you're all you're
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: off to a great start i'll tell you that much
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: it's like every night is calgary for you Like, you're
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: just dominating.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Dominating out there.
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: Thank you very much. Al and I, every year, Al
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: and I, we will go 82-0. There may be an
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: overtime win. There might be a shootout win in there.
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: It might not be a shutout every night. But every night,
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: Al and I win. We go 82-0, and that's our goal.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: I can't believe that he brought up there haven't been
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: any penalties the other day. What was that?
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: And then what happened? And then, Al, you know, listen,
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: every broadcaster tells me all the time, I guess that
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: is sacrilege, right? I believe in the broadcaster's jinx, but
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  Speaker 6: It's true. I've lost two shutouts in my career while
• 33:45
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  Speaker 6: mucked it up. He sure did.
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  Speaker 4: He sure did.
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  Speaker 1: And a grinder. All right, well, have a great call tonight.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week.
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  Speaker 6: All right, buddy.
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  Speaker 2: See you.
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• 34:01
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• 35:38
  Speaker 1: running backs. That is certainly the big story of the day.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Joe Mixon and Robert Henry Jr., a rookie signed by
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: the team yesterday. It speaks to maybe a state of desperation.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: for the world champion Seattle Seahawks in their running back
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  Speaker 1: room with Jadarian Price out for an indefinite period of
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: time and Emmanuel Wilson right now having to carry the
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: load without Zach Charbonnet being available. So when I asked
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell earlier this hour about this Sunday, what's the
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: running back depth chart look like?
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  Speaker 7: Emmanuel Wilson is still the number one. He had 21
• 36:14
  Speaker 7: rushes for 81 yards against the Chargers. He has a
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: 91-yard rushing game against Arizona the day that Price got hurt.
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: George Helani will still be the third down running back type,
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: pass blocking, pass catching back, and Vellis Jones spelling Wilson.
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  Speaker 7: And I can see Robert Henry Jr. getting carries, not
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: a ton, but in the mix of rushing carries. He
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: also was known as a pretty good receiver at Texas
• 36:37
  Speaker 7: San Antonio. as well and then on that depth chart
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  Speaker 7: you'd have kind of out as a sidecar rashid shaheed
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  Speaker 7: and that would be their potential game breaker get into
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: the open field type.
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  Speaker 1: Running back too i'm going to use my game of
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• 36:52
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• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Do you think Rashid Shahid can be a weapon like
• 37:03
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  Speaker 1: of Thrones during the wildfire scene when Tyrion launched the
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: fire and destroyed Stannis' navy? And then Baratheon said afterwards...
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  Speaker 1: The imp can only play his trick one more time
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  Speaker 1: and he's played it. So do you think that Shahid
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: can be used weekly or did we use the weapon,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: caught a team off guard and we can never use
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  Speaker 1: it again? Ha, I get your joke. Well done, sir.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen Game of Thrones.
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  Speaker 9: No, I do think that I think this will be
• 37:37
  Speaker 9: a thing moving forward for the Seahawks, that they'll use
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  Speaker 9: Shahid a little bit more and more often, especially while
• 37:42
  Speaker 9: they don't really have a change of pace guy, so
• 37:44
  Speaker 9: to speak. Because I know Holani is kind of known
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  Speaker 9: as always the third down back. He can catch the
• 37:48
  Speaker 9: ball to the backfield. He can pass block. That must
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  Speaker 9: mean he's fast.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 9: I don't think he's that quick, to be completely honest. No,
• 37:57
  Speaker 9: he's not. So they need someone who can kind of
• 37:59
  Speaker 9: open up the defense a little bit. And even if
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  Speaker 9: it's just like sweeps, right?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Just get to the outside.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think you can get more than
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: two or three carries out of them a game. But
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: it certainly looked good. Teams will now prepare for it,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: which gives you a little bit of an advantage and
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a disadvantage. Teams are going to
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: have to spend time on, hey, 22 might line up
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  Speaker 1: as a tailback. Yeah, it's just a threat of it, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But also, they're going to be prepared for it. So
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: it's not going to be as easily executed, you would think,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: in theory. Um, Henry might play. I mean, he's the
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: only one of Joe Mixon and Robert Henry jr. That
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: can play, uh, Joe Mixon's going to be going on
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: the public, uh, goes on the practice squad, excuse me,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: where Henry has to be on the active roster. You
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: took him off of another practice squad. So he has
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: to be on an active roster if you're going to
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: do that. So he's going to be in uniform. It
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean Joe Mixon couldn't be activated, just not very likely.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: And Zach Charbonnet, Mike McDonald, ruled out for this week.
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  Speaker 1: So that's your setup right now. And so what it
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  Speaker 1: looks like five weeks from now, I can't tell you.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: This Jadarian Price, this almost sounds morbid, what they're talking
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: about with this injury of his, which we didn't think
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: was any big deal. And suddenly John Schneider, without being prompted,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: makes the suggestion, well, it's not like he's going to
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: be out for the entire season.
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  Speaker 3: What?
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Nobody thought that. So, yeah, a lot of unknowns. I
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: don't know what the running back depth chart or running
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: back room is going to look like even five weeks
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: from now, but right now you just got to, you know,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: arts and crafts this thing together. to make sure that
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: you've got a decent running game for your biggest game
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  Speaker 1: of the year this week.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, and signing not just one but two running backs
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  Speaker 9: tells me that they think this is more than just
• 39:47
  Speaker 9: the four weeks for Jadari Price.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: So we'll see what ends up happening. Yeah, no question.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: All right, coming up next, Rick Neuheisel joins the show
• 39:54
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• 39:57
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