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Who had the greatest superstitions in sports? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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It looks like he's in a wonderful place.
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I had that wonderful background. Looks like an animated
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background. We are now talking to USF
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basketball assistant head coach, our friend Tobin Anderson.
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Tobin, What's up, buddy? What's up fellas, How are you?
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We're good, man. I mean, obviously you're you're
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sitting pretty. You're an assistant coach for
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USF. You have a good basketball
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program over there. I believe that you're going to
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get another head coaching job more sooner than later.
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Tell us a little bit about your time in Iona and what worked and
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what didn't work and why obviously, did you choose USF in
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the offseason? Yeah, so, you know, it's been a
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crazy last few months, obviously, and and, you know,
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crazy the last few few years. And so we had to run an FDU, you
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know, D2 head coach to FDU. And things are all along pretty
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good with Iona. And you know, to be quite
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honest, we had a lot of rebuilding to do and I really
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felt good about where we were going, what we're doing.
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We were 12 and 4 the last two months, went to the conference
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championship and all of a sudden, you know, they were, I
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was told I couldn't, you know, I was done there.
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So it was a harsh, A harsh end to what I thought was a very
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promising situation. Like, I don't feel bad about
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what we did there at all. You know, it was a rebellion.
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I've, I've been a head, I've been a college coach, right?
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Six head jobs, right, Division Three, division two, Division
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One. My journey has been a little bit
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crazier than most. So I felt good about the
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direction we're heading. It didn't happen as quick is
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FDU, but like FDU was kind of a crazy one year, 10 month.
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That doesn't happen all the time.
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I mean, it's like it's like a minor miracle.
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Just be honest with you, right? So you can't walk in every place
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and, and go and win 2 NCAA games and go to the tournament and
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have all that kind of success. And so it took us a little more
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time to get it going in Iona. Not as quick as I wanted, not as
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quick as other people wanted. And but I think we had it going
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and I loved it. I actually had a really
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enjoyable year to be honest with you.
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I really enjoyed the team. I enjoyed the guys, the staff,
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we got to a really slow start and then we turned the whole
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thing around. So I actually really enjoyed the
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year and had a great time and have nothing but great memories
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until the until the very end, at the very end was not great.
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And so I'm now I'm so that happened and it was it was a
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shocking thing for me. And and you know, when this
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thing's those things happen to your staff, your family is
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affected more than anything else.
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You know, there we're we're we have to go find someplace else.
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So I had some options, but I think I found a great option in
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the University of South Florida. Brian Hodgson, he helped build
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both the Buffalo program, the Alabama program has an
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unbelievable success. Many, you know, people label him
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as an unbelievable recruiter, the Britain, but the best
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recruiter the country. He's also held a coach.
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He won 25 games the last couple years at Arkansas State, won the
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conference 2 times. And so I think we're in a great
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spot down here. It's obviously it's a great
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place to live. The sun shines.
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My pool's right outside my door right here.
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I get up in the morning, I go jump in, I jump in the pool.
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I swim around for a little bit. I come home at night and get in
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the pool again. It's not a bad life.
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My family's still up in New York for a few more weeks.
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I'm kind of I'm a bachelor here for a while.
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Don't call Jabba. Don't call Jabba.
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He might get you in the trouble. The door's always open down
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here. You want.
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To come. Hey 100%, I'm always in.
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Yeah, but it's Thomas got eligibility.
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It's a good place to live and, and, and we're going to get
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things going down here and make a run and, and go to the NCAA
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tournament. I'm lucky to be you're happy to
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be here and it's going to be a lot of fun.
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So I want to take your predecessor, obviously Rick
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Pitino at Iona, obviously making big waves at St.
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John's this year. They were #2 seed in the NCAA
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tournament. Did he?
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Do you have any connection with him?
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But when you got the Iona job and what is your thoughts,
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everything that's gone on with that program with St.
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John's? Well, first of all, he's one of
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the best, if not the best college coach is in the top
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three of all time, right. And there's there's no doubt
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about it. I mean, probably, you know, John
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Wood and Coach K and Rick Pitino as far as just having that kind
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of success. And so, yeah, man, I knew I knew
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of it. I knew of and we knew each other
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a little bit for the five star basketball camp.
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We we crossed paths a few times. I got the job.
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We talked a couple times here and there.
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But you know, listen, he's got he had a big job to do at St.
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John's and and he's an unbelievable job there.
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And that place was rocking this year.
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New York City was going, was going great and, and I think
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quite frankly, probably hurt us at Iona because I think Iona
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wanted to be do the same thing that Saint John's did.
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And is people will tell you it, you know, there's, there's with
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the money, the way it is now with the, with the NIL and now
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the revenue sharing, it's a different world.
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The whole thing's change. It's like you have to have the
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resources, the financial resources to compete at the
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highest level. And so he obviously has that at
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Saint John's, but he also is a hell of a coach and does a great
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job and knows how to to motivate young man and and get the most
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out of them. So he's done a great job of
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Saint John's, incredible and and it's fun to watch, to be
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honestly fun to watch. And and I'm excited to see they
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they they have a great class coming in this year.
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They should be a top three program in the country this year
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too. So number he listen, he was a
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great coach. Now, now, when he left, there
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wasn't much left at Iona. You know, I just be honest, he
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took, he took the took a lot of all the players and most of the
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furniture, a lot of things, but like that.
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And so we had to, we had to totally rebuild, which is fine.
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That's, that's part of what it is right now.
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And so I think as a college coach, you have to adjust.
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You have to, you have to figure out how to win this in this
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climate. And I think I can just say for
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being here for two months and being around Brian Hodgson,
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who's in Alabama, the highest level, I've learned a ton about
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recruiting and succeeding at this level, at the highest
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level, at the highest level. So Tobin, like you're obviously
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from Iowa, I'm from Nebraska, that that's part of it.
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But the one thing that I I always under try to understand,
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which I don't, is my son is now he's at a junior college.
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And so you've coached at so many different levels.
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What is the difference between those levels and how you get
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kids to either a different level, whether it's JUCO because
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I started V2 and then I went there.
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But you as a coach seeing it from a different perspective, me
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seeing it now as a father like I, I would like to know because
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I'm trying to learn every day and, and as we all should.
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But you as a coach seeing it through so many dynamics.
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How do you see what the? What is the difference?
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Let's see what I'll tell you right?
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When you cross the lines, it's, it's all the same, right?
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So we had, we had, you know, when I was in division two, we
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had a really good players, really good team.
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And when we made a run at FDU, we brought 3 starters from
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division two to Division One and they were three of the best
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players in the court in the NCAA tournament, right?
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We signed here at USFI. Think 4 guys who played who
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started at the division two level and now our transfer in
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Division One and are doing great.
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So there's great players. I don't care where you play
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JUCO, NAIA, division two, Division Three, Division One,
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You got to be a really good player at all levels to, to, to
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succeed. Then once you cross those lines,
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it's all the same. Obviously, you know that you go
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up the level more resources, more, more help more.
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You know, we got a strength coach, we got, we got a
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nutritionist, we got a we fly, we fly.
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We chartered all of our games. You know things.
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Listen, I I was in division two. We were driving vans to games.
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You know, like, I mean, I'm used to I'm like a blue.
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I'm like a. Hey, I've been there.
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I get it. Trust me.
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I know. I know.
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Nothing's going to bother. Nothing's going to bother me as
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far as like, well, this is not what is good as it should be,
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but like now you got the resources, so you have to be
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able to use those to the best of your ability.
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But I think at the end of the day, it's about getting the
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right kind of kids who compete, who play hard, who play together
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and want to do something special.
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And that's what you're trying to do.
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I don't care. You're at Division 321 JUCO
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Roberts that like, I'll tell you what, JUCO players and JUCO
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coaches are having a lot of success right now because
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they're used to kind of like scrambling and finding the right
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kind of mix and the right kind of formula.
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And I'm, you're seeing a lot of guys.
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I mean, the head coach at Texas Tech, Grant McCausland was a
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JUCO coach, right? Brian, Brian Hodge and my boss
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started out at junior college, right?
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There's a lot of guys in junior college.
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We're doing great things. And then it's kind of get the
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world's got a little bit crazy where it's like you have to put
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things together in a short period of time.
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And I think the key is just get the right kind of kids who can,
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who can who at the end of the day, it's still about competing,
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right? It's still about I don't care
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what, what level. It's about how, how hard you
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want to play, how much better you want to get.
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And so you got to find the right kind of guys who will do that.
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But I've, I've enjoyed all levels.
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Like I loved, I loved division two maybe most of all because
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we're just kind of a little more like hardcore blue collar.
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Like we walk in the gym and sometimes.
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Did you feel like you had something to prove?
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Because I wasn't that D1. Yep, a chip on your shoulder,
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right? And the best guys I've coached
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always had a chip on their shoulder.
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I think. I think that's, that's what you
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want to find guys who want to prove themselves.
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And that's why when I went to FTU and the three guys have
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brought with me, they were trying to prove, hey, we can
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play Division One. We're we're able to play at this
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level. And that kind of gave them an
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edge for that whole year. And I was a Division 2 coach.
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I wanted to prove too, that I could win at that level.
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That's kind of what what pisses me off about what happened.
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I own it because I'm like, we were still doing good things and
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moving in the right direction. And but the reality is sometimes
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people don't always see it that way.
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And people above you don't always see it that way.
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So you have to kind of like, that's the way it is and you
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move on. You know, what's been good for
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me is I've talked a lot of pro coaches and like, no, they just
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fired Tom Thibodeau for the Knicks, right?
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Tom Thibodeau, the team of the Eastern Conference finals.
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It is like that stuff happens sometimes.
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And like, you can't sit around and and worry about it or pity
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me or feel sorry for yourselves. You got to suck it up and go
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right back at it. We are talking to USF basketball
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assistant head coach Tobin Anderson.
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He's been on our show. He was the head coach of Iona
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last year, 17 and 17, a record that was over 500.
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Like you were saying, you know, being that you're 500, he
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shouldn't have been let go. But obviously Iona wanted to go
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another route. You know what's interesting to
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me, Tobin, I've I've never been a coach and I never tried to
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recruit players. I as a radio guy, you know, I
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try to recruit people to come on our show and how do I do that?
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I show them a different attitude, a different look to
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sports media. We're not like everybody else.
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And I want people to know we're not like every other
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interviewer. We go out there, we try to be
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different. We try to be funny.
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Well, we don't try. We just talk crazy.
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But the same thing when you go into a house and you're trying
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to recruit somebody. Now you have Rick Pitino or you
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have somebody of that or Coach K, these big names, Oh my God,
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or Nick Saban, you know when they go into your home, you're
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like, Oh my God, it's Nick Saban.
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He's sitting right in front of me.
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I watched him win 5 national championships and then you're
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like just enamored by who he is. Rick Pitino, he's been over
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there in the NBA. He's made hundreds of millions
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of dollars as a head coach and he's now coaching Saint Johns.
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So the first thing that pops in your head when you're you want
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to go over there to St. John's is when am I going to
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meet Rick Pitino? I don't care about this
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recruiter. I don't care about this lady
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coming into my house and telling me about my academic
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opportunities. I don't give a crap.
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I care about playing in the NBA and Rick goddamn Pitino.
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So you you're obviously, you're a head coach.
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You over there at D1 and you're walking into these kids houses,
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OK? And yeah, you have Rick Pitino.
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You have all these different guys coming.
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In OK, hold, hold on there. They don't do that as much as
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they used to. Well, I hold.
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On why? Why has that changed?
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But I'll let you answer that question.
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But I, I want to know how, how Tobin, when he's picking
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somebody that he wants to go to and, and try to sell to his
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parents. Do you go in there with a
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suitcase and a suit on and you say, I got to swindle his mom
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and hope his father's not a big asshole?
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Or are you going to go in there and you're going to say, listen,
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I'm going to wear my nice Jordans.
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I'm going to wear, you know, I'm going to wear my my Nike sweats
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and I'm going to walk right in and say, listen, come to my
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school because I'm going to let you hang free.
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I'm going to let those balls hang free.
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And mom and dad can come and watch you play anytime you want
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and you can sleep with this woman and that woman.
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It doesn't matter. Come to USF, come to you, come
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to Iona and you get a chance to experience what it is to be a
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great basketball player and work with a great head coach.
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Is that how you do it or do you do it?
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Tobin, That's why you know he wasn't a college at I.
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First of all, I wouldn't. By the way, Tobin.
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By the way, Tobin. He always stayed.
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I would have been a college athlete if I didn't hurt my
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knee. OK, I was a really great hockey
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player and I was playing. I was going to play D1 hockey
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and I hurt my knee. So obviously I'm not Jabba
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Chamberlain, who played for the New York Yankees, but maybe I
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was. I would have been drafted by the
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Maple Leafs, so the Montreal Canadiens, like some of my
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counter partners were when I played Team USA hockey.
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So eat your ass, Jabba. Go ahead, Tobin.
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First of all, I love Jabba. I remember watching Jabba.
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The Yankees enjoy that whole that whole that whole run, which
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was awesome. But listen, I I'm a little bit
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like you. You got to be unorthodox.
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Well, you don't have a big name or the big, the big all the the
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you know, the Patino, the Schefsky, the that behind you
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got to be a little bit different, right?
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You got to you got to sell. You got to sell your style.
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Like for us, like we always play up tempo, press, play fast, like
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play like an NBA style. That's how Brian plays here too
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at USF. So like you got to, you got to
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sell like there he is Java right there.
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You got to sell something different.
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Like that's like a chip on your shoulder.
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Try to prove yourself. Things have changed.
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Now it's about the money. I mean, the money, the money's
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the biggest. I mean, that's part of the
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conversation. We don't go into people's homes
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anymore as much anymore. We try to sell playing time.
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We try to sell style of play. We try to sell relationships,
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but the relationships are a lot quicker.
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Like a lot of these guys we have, we may only have them here
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for like 10 months. You know, the guards I handed F
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to you, they played 150 college games for me, 150, right?
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That's a lot of college basketball games.
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Guys we have now, most of them play one season, one season and
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then they move on. So it's a, it's a whole
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different world right now. So I just think those
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relationships are still important though.
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Like you got to be on the gym with them.
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You got to be part, you got to be part of their lives.
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You got to you guys spend time with them.
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I don't talk to the parents as much as I used to.
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You know, we talk to agents now. You talk to more people around
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them. It's like, I don't necessarily
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love doing that all the time. The idiots, the agents, Don't
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you love them? They're pros now, they're making
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money, they're professionals. They have to kind of deal with
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things themselves a little bit too, you know?
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How do you sell yourself to an agent?
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I mean, you're calling them up and saying, hey, I'm Tobin
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Anderson, your son or your because some of these guys have
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their fathers as their agent. Your son or your your cousin can
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come over here. Hey, I'll get I'll throw, I'll
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slip you 100 or I'll slip you on autographed jersey by Jabba
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Chamberlain. If you're a Jabba fan, just come
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over here to US S how do you do it?
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Like what do you say to them? You've been to Tampa.
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Like you should come down here and tell you what this is a it's
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a hell of a I mean, there are beaches and restaurants and bar
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scene and I was downtown this past weekend.
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I'm not. I was still downtown for a
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college. Were you at channel side or red?
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Channel side, channel side, waterside down there, that
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whole, that whole area on the Wall Street.
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I lived there for 13 years. I'll tell you what, if you're a
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college, college age or in that area somewhere, man, it's a it's
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a great place to live. Great.
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I mean, there's a great, great place to go out.
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Have you? Experienced South Tampa.
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I've been in for quite a few of those places already.
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I've been down to Ybor City, a lot of a lot of good spots down
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there. So you know, it's a great place
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to live, great place to go to school.
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They have some money now and our facilities are top notch.
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And listen, if we start winning, we'll sell out 15,000 people, be
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packed into our arena and and it's going to be big.
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We're playing a hell of a schedule playing, we're playing
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great teams. So it's a great, a great
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situation. And the biggest thing is, hey,
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you get better. You're playing a good style, got
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a chance to go play, you know, a lot of guys go play in the NBA
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or go play the G League or go play overseas.
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So it's a, it's a you got to sell that and, and sell those
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relationships. And you know, my boss, Brian
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Hodgson, he's put 15 guys in the NBA in the last five years.
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So he's had a lot of success putting guys from Alabama and
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they guys from Buffalo in the NBA.
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So we're, we're, we're trying to keep on doing that.
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So I wanted to ask about the kind of the modern changes in in
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college sports that we've seen. Obviously the transfer portal
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being the biggest 1. You saw Florida win a national
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championship this past year with a third year head coach and a
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lot of transfers. And you've seen a lot of these
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other programs really grow because of it too.
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And like you were saying, you're seeing a lot more stronger non
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conference scheduling than you saw in years past where they
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used to schedule in five years in advance.
18:35
So what are your thoughts with that whole those whole changes
18:38
and how do you think it's affected coaching from your
18:40
standpoint as well? It's going to help the high
18:42
major level because a lot of those guys are getting paid
18:44
money now just and they'll they'll stay in college as
18:46
opposed to going to the NBA and being a a second round pick or
18:49
trying to hang around or whatever.
18:50
They're making more money in college.
18:51
They would be in the pros right now.
18:53
So a lot of guys at the, the highest of the power, the power
18:56
fours and the schools right in that, in that stratosphere are
19:00
going to stay in college and make more money.
19:01
So that the, that's a good thing for the, for those schools,
19:04
right? The mid majors and low majors
19:06
are getting killed because their best players are getting,
19:09
getting eaten up by the, the high majors are getting poached
19:12
by those schools. And so if a guy has a Goodyear
19:14
playing for a low major, playing for an FDU, playing for Iona,
19:17
well, somebody's going to come in and offer them $500,000 and
19:20
they'll go play for a power four.
19:22
So the power fours are going to be really good.
19:25
They're playing, like you said, they're playing better
19:26
schedules, the competition's better, more TV games.
19:30
So that part's that part's gotten better.
19:32
Like there's, you know, there's some really good players that
19:35
are in college next year that in the past would have gone pro.
19:38
So I think it's I think in that, in that respect, it's great.
19:41
But for the rest of them, there's there's 250 Division One
19:45
schools who don't belong in that level, right?
19:49
And they're kind of like a fish out of water.
19:51
Like what what is FDU have in common with Alabama, right?
19:55
What's Iona have in common with Duke or Ohio State?
19:58
They don't have their money is not even close to what what they
20:01
have as far as revenue sharing the NIL stuff.
20:04
So it's almost like two different worlds are exist right
20:08
now, and one's one's a pretty good world and 1's.
20:12
One's going a little bit. The the separations get old.
20:14
Like to see what happened with with like Saint Peter's making a
20:17
run and FDA making a run and Florida Atlantic not going to
20:22
see as much of that anymore. It's like Shane McMahon.
20:24
Remember that money song? I, I, I don't know.
20:27
I, I do. I did watch wrestling at one
20:29
point. Money, money, money, money,
20:30
money. That song.
20:32
That's what that's. What he's saying, but he always
20:34
had money. No, I know, but I'm, I'm just
20:37
thinking of the song. I'm thinking of the track here.
20:40
You literally mentioned it or Ted Devios, see the money?
20:42
What did they call him? The $1,000,000 man.
20:44
So maybe that's what it is. Maybe they have Ted Diviasi
20:47
hanging out. I don't know.
20:48
I know he's dead broke now. He's an old rag.
20:50
But anyways, go ahead, John. I just want to mention before
20:53
Java, you asked you a question. So you mentioned you mentioned
20:55
the FA youth team that obviously you played.
20:57
You guys played and then they end up going to the Final Four.
20:59
Elijah Martin was literally on that team and now he's with
21:01
Florida and won a championship. Johnny Davis went to to
21:05
Arkansas, went to Arkansas and then Vlad was in Michigan last
21:08
year and three guys who were who were three, you know, three of
21:10
the best players in the country last year who end up going to
21:13
the the highest level. Their their combined salaries
21:15
last year probably about $3,000,000.
21:19
Sobin, what do you like obviously playing playing
21:23
college sports and now having a son in college sports, right?
21:29
Do you think what they're doing right now is beneficial?
21:33
Like, and we've had this argument a lot about getting
21:36
paid this another saying, but do you, do you think it's helping
21:42
the game or do you think it's hurting in some type of capacity
21:47
or is it creating parity to other teams that yeah, if you,
21:53
if you're not going to get that. And now with what just happened,
21:56
obviously we saw the $2.8 billion thing that 20.5 goes to
22:01
this school and whatever. Do you think that's helped or
22:07
hurt? Because I, I love seeing it from
22:11
because as a player, I would have loved to got paid and do
22:15
what I do. Like I'm sitting in a College
22:16
World Series and I'm the only person to ever win from Nebraska
22:20
and I would have got paid a lot of money.
22:24
Do you think it's it's hurt the guys athletically?
22:29
And that's the question, do they work harder?
22:32
Do they work less because they know they're getting paid?
22:36
That's a great, that's a great question, right, Because it's,
22:38
it's funny. It's like it's a lot of Times
22:40
Now, you know, I told two of our players today, I've said like,
22:43
you know, you guys are pros now you got to be in shape all the
22:45
time. There's no excuse for not being
22:47
in shape. Like you're getting paid like
22:48
you're, you're basically like, you know, if you went to trap
22:51
the, the Lakers tomorrow, you come in in unbelievable shape.
22:54
You come in mentally ready to go, you'd be arrested, You'd be
22:57
all, all that kind of stuff. I said it's the same thing in
22:58
college. Now you got to you got to get
22:59
yourself in great position to to have you want to make money.
23:04
You're going to have a great year.
23:05
And I do think there's a motivation now to have a great
23:07
year, can help you earn more money, and I think it's a great
23:11
thing, Jabba. So do you see it on both sides?
23:14
Like it could be good. And bad, well, definitely bad.
23:16
Could be bad too. Could absolutely be bad.
23:18
And guys get paid almost so they can get lazy.
23:20
They get, I see it all the time. Guys start spending money on
23:22
stupid things and they buy, they buy things they shouldn't buy.
23:25
I mean, what, what's I'd tell you what, what, what's, what's
23:28
bad is that the NCAA has not done anything as far as
23:30
educational programs to help kids who are making this kind of
23:33
money as far as like financial education.
23:36
Like we do it ourselves. And we'll have people come in
23:37
and talk to our guys and speak about that.
23:39
Those guys who had no money, who were all of a sudden making
23:41
$500,000, who have no idea how to open a checking account, how
23:46
to invest it, how to pay taxes. There's a lot of parts of that.
23:49
NCA has done nothing as far as like educating those student
23:54
athletes. I think there's a part of it
23:55
like once you get paid, you know, I've made it.
23:58
You know, we had guys, you know, making not that much.
24:00
Funny thing I have, I made it. I made it.
24:02
I'm gonna go buy a gold chain and go buy a go buy a car and
24:06
life is good. Well, listen, that that money
24:08
goes, as we all know, it goes by pretty fast and it's one.
24:11
But I do agree, though, that they should get paid.
24:14
I think student athletes deserve to get paid.
24:16
There's so much money being made by all these teams, all these
24:19
programs. And for a long time, coaches
24:21
made lots of money. You're you're building new
24:24
buildings, you're building, you're putting on new things,
24:26
you're hiring new people. So they definitely deserve to
24:28
get paid. I just think we need to put
24:31
things in place to help them understand like this might be
24:34
the most money they'll ever make.
24:36
You know, you don't make a ton of money overseas playing
24:38
professor overseas. You don't make crazy money.
24:40
But right now they're guys in, in our league making half
24:43
$1,000,000, you know, or more. That's a lot of money for a kid
24:47
who's 20 years old and has no idea what to do with it.
24:50
You know, we have guys in our team and I owner last year who
24:52
transferred, who are making crazy amounts of money.
24:55
And it's like, I hope they don't don't.
24:56
And I talked to them all the time like don't, don't waste
24:58
your money. Don't make sure you're smart.
24:59
Make sure you invest, make sure you save it.
25:01
But we need something in place to help them.
25:04
We are talking to USF basketball assistant head coach Tobin
25:09
Anderson. I don't want to keep you on too
25:10
much longer, but this story has really burst my bubble.
25:15
OK, You are a recruiter, you're a head coach and this guy is on
25:19
the Bill Simmons show and with this this idiot writer
25:24
costerman, I call him colostomy bag, OK, Because that's all he
25:27
is. And he comes out and he tries to
25:30
compare probably the best American born player we've seen
25:34
come out of college basketball in about let's just say 12
25:37
years, OK? And Cooper Flag.
25:40
And he had the audacity to come out.
25:43
As we all know, he's a former writer.
25:45
He's not a writer anymore for anybody but himself.
25:49
He should be writing about something else, maybe something
25:52
he does. And when he's sitting on a
25:53
toilet, I don't want to listen to him talk about Cooper Flag.
25:56
But he came out and tried to compare Cooper Flag to Deadlift
26:01
Strip. Now, as a recruiter, as a guy
26:04
that knows a little bit about college basketball, and I'm sure
26:07
you do and I know you do because we've had you on this show and
26:11
you've coached Division One schools, D2 schools, and you're
26:14
a great coach. Could you even think of just how
26:20
stupid a dumb person could be comparing this kid to to a guy
26:27
that was a good player but nowhere close to the talent as
26:30
Cooper Flag? And please tell me what this guy
26:34
is drinking, because he might be drinking something that has a
26:37
lot of protein but you shouldn't be drinking if you know what I
26:40
mean. Cooper Flag is a generational
26:42
talent man. I saw him at the, at the, at the
26:45
EYBL, the Nike thing like 2 years ago.
26:48
And I'm like, man, there's I mean, I thought you were going
26:50
to say because I hadn't heard the conversation.
26:51
I hadn't been following Bill Simmons that much.
26:54
I thought I'm going to see Larry run for your life.
26:55
I thought it was compared to Larry Bird.
26:58
I'm like, why be a that's a comparison.
27:00
I think Cooper flag will be a, you know, a ten time All Star,
27:05
first team, all NBA guy. He's got like he's got all the
27:08
talent, all that ability. He's also got mentally, he's a
27:11
he's a tough dude. I mean he went to Duke this year
27:13
and he handled all that exposure, all that all that hype
27:16
and he was fantastic. So no, I think he's a
27:18
generational talent. I think he's fantastic.
27:19
He's going to be great. Man, I wish the Mavs would have
27:23
kept Luca. It'd been fun to see that that
27:26
whole. Thing they would have never
27:27
gotten him. They would have never gotten
27:28
him. I think the NBA was pretty much
27:30
handing him over. The Spurs probably would.
27:33
Have gotten him Errol. Errol.
27:34
Tell him what you think the NBA is.
27:37
What do you mean? What do I think the NBA is?
27:38
The LJA, LeBron James Association?
27:41
It's the LeBron James Association.
27:43
It's not the NBA, it's the LJA. It's you Like what?
27:47
I, I think he's a generational town.
27:49
I think he's the second greatest basketball player all of all
27:53
time, even though he likes to say he's the greatest and so
27:55
does his family. And he wants to tell everybody
27:57
he's retiring when he's not retiring.
27:59
Why would you retire when you're getting 52 and a half million
28:01
dollars? You'd have to be stupid.
28:03
LeBron James thinks we're stupid, so we're going to
28:06
believe it. The fact is, is the NBA wanted
28:09
Luka Doncic to go over there to the Lakers because the Lakers
28:12
need another player to lean on after LeBron James goes away.
28:17
And we all know that's what the NBA is doing.
28:20
And because of that, the LJA handed over Cooper flag to The
28:26
Mavericks and said, here you go. We're sorry.
28:29
We're sorry that you gave up, Lucas.
28:31
So you know what we're going to do?
28:32
We're going to give you even a better player.
28:34
You got damn idiots. That's what the NBA is, the LJA,
28:39
the LeBron James Association, or you could call them the GA.
28:46
No, the GI. God damn.
28:49
God, GDI association. Goddamn idiot association.
28:54
That's even better, but it's the LJA.
28:57
I mean, we all know LeBron James runs the lead.
28:59
How many years? What's he played 22 years?
29:01
I mean, it's pretty impressive what he's done.
29:02
Yeah, he's. Unbelievable.
29:04
He's not human. He's not human.
29:06
He's not human. He's like 20 years, two years.
29:08
Playing and then he spent 12 years of the GM and now five
29:11
years as the commissioner of the league.
29:13
It's pretty simple to being. You know more it's a little I
29:16
will agree with that. It's a little bit a little bit
29:18
too much. So just.
29:18
Say it. Say it.
29:19
The LJA LeBron James Association.
29:22
That's what it is. It is.
29:24
I'm going back to the original Cooper Flag is a stud.
29:27
He's going to be a great player. He's going to be.
29:29
Hear that fish? Hear that fish, Sink that in.
29:32
Sink that in for that Mister colostomy bag.
29:34
That idiot on that stupid show. That's a.
29:38
That's a bad. Oh my God, what a horrible
29:40
comparison. That's a terrible comparison.
29:43
I thought you'd say Larry Bird. I'm like, it's two different
29:46
guys, but like, you know, whatever.
29:48
That's he's the white. And I said this, I've watched
29:51
Cooper Flag develop as a high school player.
29:53
We've been trying to get him on on the show for a long time.
29:56
I've been following him since 8th grade.
29:57
He reminds me of the white Kevin Durant.
30:01
That's who he reminds me of his game.
30:03
What he did, what Kevin Durant played when he was over there in
30:06
Texas with the Longhorns and he did.
30:08
He was a good shooter. He's a little bit better.
30:10
Well, he's he's definitely better as a shooter than Cooper
30:13
Flag. But his game is all around game.
30:16
And remember Kevin Durant developed his shot even better
30:19
in the NBA. He wasn't the shooter he is now,
30:22
but when he came to the NBAI think he's no don't like Kevin.
30:26
Durant, he had a 2 to one assist to turnover ratio this year.
30:29
Kimber flag like can score, but he can also pass the ball.
30:31
He plays, he's a he can rebound, he can defend me.
30:34
He's a he's a beast man. He's fantastic.
30:36
No, he'll be great. He'll be great.
30:39
He'll be fun. He'll be fun to watch the NBA
30:41
too. He's got more space and things
30:42
like that. He'll be, he'll be, he'll be
30:43
outstanding. All right, Tobin.
30:46
So Tobin before you. Get Yes, go ahead.
30:48
As a coach, when you get a talent like that and you get
30:54
somebody in that realm. You masturbate.
30:57
That's what I would do. How do?
30:58
You like, how do you play like that?
31:03
Get him to stay grounded and especially the game has changed.
31:08
Like we, we've talked, how do you get them to stay to
31:11
understand like this is what we want to get to.
31:16
We, we don't want to just get to the tournament.
31:18
We want to win. And how do you do that as a
31:21
coach? Because, you know, I've been
31:24
fortunate enough to do a lot of cool things, but I never got to
31:29
the pinnacle in college. And I got close, but I didn't.
31:35
And as a coach, and I've never coached at that level.
31:39
Where do you like, Where is the balance between because they are
31:44
still student athletes? Yep.
31:46
But now they're business people. Yep.
31:49
Like so where do you find that balance?
31:52
Well, I think first of all, if they're they got to be good
31:54
people. Like you can tell Cooper fly,
31:56
he's got good parents, he's been raised well.
31:57
He's got he's got good people around him.
31:59
He's had a good coaches. Like, you know what, just even,
32:01
even you recruit kids, you can tell who's going to stay
32:03
grounded, who's going to not go out and spend their money and go
32:05
and do crazy things and, and, and who's going to be like,
32:08
who's going to get better and work?
32:10
And like at the end of the day, right, the better the team does,
32:13
the better you do, right? You know, if you can get
32:15
yourself, get your team to a final four, it's going to help
32:17
the team. It's also going to help you too.
32:18
So more exposure, more, more eyes on you, all that kind of
32:23
stuff. So I think that we you try to
32:25
sell, Hey, what's good for the team is also good for you.
32:27
What's good for you is also good for the team.
32:29
Hope they have high character. Hope they were raised well by
32:31
great parents and understand the big picture, you know.
32:35
But I think where, where does, where do you come in?
32:38
Because they're with you more than they're with.
32:40
Them all the time. Yep, My dad was a high school
32:43
coach. My dad said I'll know your kid
32:46
better than you will because I see him all the time.
32:47
I see him every day in in in winning, losing practice, the
32:50
whole thing. So like, I'm there, I'm there to
32:53
kind of kick him in the ass where they need it, right?
32:56
Also to be encouraging to be positive.
32:58
I think the part about like, you know, being a positive voice in
33:01
their ear all the time is great, especially with social media and
33:04
how you get they get knocked down all the time by all these
33:06
people. So I think just being around and
33:08
you know, we will, we watch a lot of film, we watch a lot of
33:11
NBA stuff. We show them, we show them
33:12
clips, like just being a a person who's there for them
33:15
anytime they need us. You know, I think a lot of
33:19
times, you know, to keep them grounded when things are going
33:23
well is is harder then when they're not doing well and
33:28
motivating them to do better. You know, you know what I'm
33:30
saying? It's like.
33:31
Because you're a parent, I'm assuming.
33:34
Right. Yeah.
33:34
My son's actually a sophomore at Alabama, my daughter.
33:37
My son, my son's a sophomore at Hutchinson playing.
33:41
So does the parent instincts kick in sometimes?
33:45
I'm a better coach now that I've had my kids go through high
33:48
school sports, you know? Trust me, that was awful.
33:53
Yep, Yep. Well, you got to use, you got to
33:55
use the goose. You said it's good for you and
33:58
good for that. It's it's good for the goose.
34:00
It's good for the gander. The Gander.
34:02
I like that. I like that saying.
34:04
That's a. Good.
34:04
So you so you you as a father, like being coached and I've
34:08
never coached at your level. I've I've coached travel
34:11
baseball and whatever. But do you do you think that
34:15
helps too? Like when you have that
34:17
understanding, because it's like, hey, I know you're going
34:22
through some shit and that's OK, and be like, hey, we're here for
34:29
you and all you got to do is, is just talk to.
34:33
Me. Because if I don't know, I can't
34:36
help. You Yep, think back to this job
34:39
with my son when I coached him and travel ball AU, which is one
34:42
of the hardest things I ever had to do when he was like in 8th
34:44
grade and I was trying to coach his team and you know, he
34:46
wouldn't listen to me the more after a game I was like trying
34:51
to critique him or try to coach him.
34:52
That didn't work so much. What you just said is a great
34:55
point. Let them talk, let them you
34:57
know, how do you feel? How's things going?
34:59
What are you, what are you thinking?
34:59
What are your goals like? And just being kind of there for
35:02
them as a resource as opposed to tell them all the time what to
35:05
do and how to do it right. Because sometimes it's too much.
35:10
It's just too, it's just too much.
35:11
You know, the too much, too much coaching, too much over
35:14
overloading them or whatever. So you got to pick and choose
35:16
the right spots. And listen, I'm not perfect at
35:18
it. I was not a perfect parent.
35:20
I drove my son crazy sometimes The best thing my son did, he
35:23
started running cross country. I'd go to the meats and he was
35:25
like, run as fast as you can, turn left.
35:27
That's all you got to do, man. Get back here as fast as you
35:29
can. Like that's, that's an easy
35:30
sport to, to, to be. And we know nothing about it, so
35:33
thank you. I I, I will, I will say this
35:36
Tobin. And you said what it's job I
35:38
asked you is like, what do you do when you get a town?
35:40
Something like that? And I made a joke and I said, I
35:42
get off, I I masturbate because if I got a player that good, I'm
35:46
having a I'm having a ball. I'm enjoying myself and just so
35:50
happy that I landed somebody that great.
35:53
This guy was the best player in the world coming out of.
35:57
My flag to South Florida, I'd be I'd be doing pretty well here.
36:00
I'd be I'd like I'd I might have three pools instead of 1.
36:05
I will kindly love. The other swap, he love you.
36:07
Catching it too. Just have me recruit them.
36:12
I don't know. We got to pick and choose your
36:14
moments that day, Darrell. I know, I know Errol will love
36:17
you coaching a Duke right now. I'd be a great coach.
36:21
Are you kidding me? Me out there having and pumping
36:24
these kids up. I'm one of those crazy guys.
36:27
I'm not Danny Hurley crazy. I'm not going to attack somebody
36:30
or threaten people on a basketball court.
36:32
But I'm going to tell the guys, listen, we're going to go out
36:34
there, pretend I'm out there as the 6th man.
36:37
Pretend I'm just I'm, I'm like an Angel, Angel on your
36:40
shoulders. Pretend I'm just like riding
36:42
your shoulders all the way to the hole.
36:44
OK? Remember that hole, Make sure
36:47
that hole opens and jam it in. That's what I'd say.
36:52
At least I'm not in New York. You've got a Jets hat on.
36:55
Just I'm not in New York. I'm going to do Jets going to be
36:57
good this year. I'm fine with Duke first.
37:00
I'm so first. Of all now Tobin, Tobin, Tobin,
37:05
Tobin, Tobin, Tobin. Now you've done it.
37:07
Now you've done it, now you've lost yourself.
37:10
Whatever you're doing over there, whatever you're drinking,
37:12
keep drinking it. Just don't get too drunk.
37:15
Nobody said The Jets are winning anything this year.
37:18
All we know is we got to see if they got the right guy in place.
37:22
I think they do. I think Aaron Glenn's a good
37:25
coach. I think he's a Jet.
37:27
The Jets have never hired somebody that was a part of the
37:30
organization. So we understand what it takes
37:33
to bring in somebody that could say, I know what it is to lose.
37:37
I know what it takes to figure out how to win and be a great
37:41
player. Aaron Glenn was a good player
37:43
and he knows how to win, as we've seen with Detroit.
37:46
And we all know what Bill Parcell said.
37:48
He's he's one of the greatest. He knows that Aaron Glenn is
37:51
going to be special. So I understand what you're
37:53
saying. The fact that you brought up the
37:55
New York Jets in this conversation makes me sick, OK?
37:59
It makes me sick as a Jet fan and as a, you know.
38:04
Yeah, because we usually have to deal with Jets conversation.
38:07
Never. Never. 90%.
38:09
Never. We haven't spoken.
38:10
All we bring up when it comes to it is making jokes about Aaron
38:14
Rodgers. We do not.
38:15
We have not spoken about The Jets.
38:17
We don't talk about it. We have nothing to talk about
38:20
with The Jets. Why are you bringing them up?
38:22
Because you're just trying to find a way to stir things up.
38:25
And if you want to stir me up, it's very simple.
38:29
I'm not going to sit here and back down from nobody.
38:32
And as far as the New York Jets are concerned with ownership, by
38:35
the way, Woody Johnson's trying to buy a soccer team for 200
38:38
million. Woody, stay away from the soccer
38:41
team and worry about your God damn football team.
38:44
Stay the hell away from anything you touch because you're going
38:48
to make me hurl, all right? I don't want to hear about Woody
38:51
Johnson and the tabloids. I don't want to hear about James
38:54
Dolan. I don't want to hear about Chris
38:55
Jury because he sucks for all your range of fans.
38:58
I just sit here, hear and laugh every single time we talk about
39:01
it. You know why?
39:02
Because we live in this disgrace.
39:05
We live in a disgraceful state where disgraceful, disgraceful
39:10
sports. That's all I'm going to say.
39:12
Let's cut it out. That and we love you.
39:15
We love you, my friend Tobin, We appreciate you.
39:18
I hope you guys thank. You very nice, very nice to meet
39:22
you man. All right, man.
39:22
Good to see you guys. All right, we'll talk soon.
39:25
When? Are you going to invite us to a
39:26
basketball game so we can you come to?
39:28
Tampa, you come see me. All right, let's do it.
39:30
Let's do it. You got my number coming to
39:32
Tampa. Come see.
39:32
I'd love to have you. Let's do it.
39:33
Stay at the house. Let's do it.
39:35
That sounds like a fun time. We'll hang out with Tobin.
39:37
Just stay, you know, we'll and Jabba, you know we'll sign a
39:40
couple autographs. And I kind.
39:44
Of Run Tampa. So we can, we can, we can get it
39:46
done. You come down, let me know.
39:48
Just keep guys. Tobin.
39:50
Just keep him away from your pool.
39:51
I don't know what he doesn't. Anyways.
39:54
Tobin. Take care, fellas.
39:56
Tobin Anderson, ladies and gentlemen, fantastic.
39:59
Great personality, great head coach.
40:01
Iona was stupid. I was stupid.
40:04
They're a stupid organization, stupid school.
40:06
Keep the guy. Let him grow.
40:08
This isn't the Knicks. He, I think Tobin.
40:11
It takes a while to recruit the right guys to put them around in
40:15
college basketball and put it in a good situation where they're
40:18
going to succeed. Tobin didn't get enough time to
40:21
do that, and unfortunately he he didn't.
40:25
It fell short for him, but I think Tobin's a great coach,
40:27
he's a great personality and anybody that's never heard him
40:30
or didn't get a chance to hear the interview, well then shame
40:33
on you. Watch the replay and bug off, as
40:37
I always said, as Aaron Rodgers married his hand tonight, as
40:40
we've learned. And we don't know what Jabba
40:42
does in his pool. OK, whatever pool he is, he
40:45
let's keep him away from Jeff because that pissed off.
40:49
I mean, I don't, I don't, I do pee in the pool.
40:51
I'm not going to lie. I.
40:52
Figured Jeff's not going to like that.
40:53
That's it, that I knew. Chlorine pool, yeah.
40:57
But I I I check the pH and make sure.
40:59
It's fine. Emphasis on the pH.
41:03
Well, that's true. It figures you do something like
41:06
that, man. I, I'm not going to say I never
41:09
did it, but I I don't do that where I'm going out of my way
41:12
and saying, hey, you know what, is anybody watching?
41:15
I'm going to just piss in the pool.
41:16
I I mean, that's not something I would do and it's not sanitary.
41:20
I know tell you, I'll tell you somebody that likes to pee all
41:22
over things. Tommy scoops over here.
41:24
Mr. Pooper himself. He he doesn't know how to, you
41:28
know, he doesn't know how to shoot the rim or, you know, he
41:31
tries to sink it and dunk it, but it just doesn't dunk right.
41:35
It hits the IT hits the rim and rubs, if you know what I mean.
41:37
Speedy, you know how to rub right?
41:40
Why you rub yours like a genie in a bottle, right?
41:42
You'd ever done that before? Is he?
41:45
Is he Christina Aguilera? Oh well, I love that song.
41:48
I love that song. I mean, is she she's definitely
41:51
my genie in a bottle. If I got her in a bum and I'll
41:53
I'll rub her off, you know, I'll rub it off before I rub her off.
41:56
But anyways, let's go to a call to the.
42:03
I think. You can throw a strike on this
42:05
pitch. It's not going to be my John at
42:06
my arm. Feels like jello right there.
42:07
Just get it over. The plate I want him to swing.
42:09
Last time I did. That the guy hit one that hasn't
42:11
landed yet. For a call to the pen.
42:16
I like that. All right, guys, a call to the
42:19
pen. This is our this we're saving
42:23
where Again. Eat your heart out, Errol.
42:25
I know you wish that was true, but the drop is.
42:28
A lot. My rear end is burning.
42:31
That one might be true. He.
42:32
Does Grobar have some food? That is Grobar sketch.
42:36
Grobar, A. Call to the pen is when we go
42:42
and get some real stories from the history of our professional
42:48
athletes that are on. Our I need a blow.
42:50
Job Goody should be joining us later.
42:55
Sullivan heard back from him. But we're going to talk.
42:57
He's coaching. You got to you got to give him a
42:59
chance over here. He's winning.
43:00
By the way, he is 3 and O as a head coach.
43:03
I mean, if he. Was a really good coach the game
43:04
would they'd win the game real quick and it'd be over and he'd
43:07
be on the show already. I mean, if he was Dodger.
43:13
All right, let's get serious. A call to the pen.
43:16
I've always wondered about this because you always hear baseball
43:20
players have some of the most unique superstitions when
43:23
compared to really all sports. A lot of athletes are
43:25
superstitious, you know, may wear like for football.
43:29
I know like I used to wear like the same shirt under my pads.
43:32
You know, when I would play every game, like I wanted it to
43:34
be that shirt. So I made sure I had it ready
43:36
for every game. That's just a small one that I
43:38
just like, had a habit of. That's not even really a
43:40
superstition. I didn't say my.
43:42
Weiner, I know that we're going to hear some interesting ones
43:45
tonight. Jabba, tell me about some of
43:47
yours if you have any. But definitely want to hear
43:49
about some of the weirdest ones you've ever seen in your days
43:52
man. It was, it was for me.
43:56
I I put everything on right side first.
44:00
So what I always do, and I still do it to this day, I would, when
44:05
I started, I always ate the same thing.
44:08
I went to the same restaurant. I remember like when I first got
44:12
to the big leagues, everybody was telling me about Wade Boggs.
44:15
Like he ate Fenway, Frank's like he literally got them too thin.
44:21
And it could be no matter what was going on he always ate them
44:28
and then you literally could be mid conversation and he would
44:34
leave you with like I got a hit because he hit at the same time
44:38
every day and it didn't matter. He ate the same ass, he did
44:43
everything, everything the same. Everything the same.
44:46
Don't know he was eating ass at that point, but I.
44:49
Mean he was too young. Streak alive, you know.
44:52
Yeah, I mean, he is a Hall of Famer, so.
44:55
And he's from Omaha, NE, so. Why they eat ass over there?
45:01
I mean, I'm not going to say I'm not going to say I haven't, not
45:08
going to say I. Haven't the way dogs really do
45:12
all the fried chicken stories stuff that you hear in the case
45:16
races of beer beer? Yeah, don't.
45:18
Don't ever, don't ever try to drink with that beer that that
45:23
will not happen. I mean, everybody knows someone
45:27
from like, I had a friend in College in the fraternity who
45:30
like could do like, remember what was the show, the man show
45:34
where they had the guy did the Ziggy, Ziggy, Ziggy Zig and then
45:37
he would one gulp the, the pint. I had a friend that could do
45:40
that and it was impressive. But every once in a while you,
45:43
you know, you put it, you got to put to the test and that that
45:47
guy always killed all of us. Yeah, and it's like, but for
45:50
mine, it's like, and seeing guys like CC was crazy too, because I
45:58
knew him and then got to play with him and he was just the
46:01
most laid back dude when he would start.
46:04
And you're like, there's some that aren't.
46:06
Like when I played with Rodger, it was like you didn't talk to
46:10
him. AJ Burnett when he came over in
46:15
O9 with CC, he had this like Buddha head, right?
46:20
And he would turn it to what his demeanor was that day.
46:25
OK, So it's like you could see like, OK, he's happy, OK, we can
46:29
talk to him. He's pissed off.
46:31
You don't talk to him. And I'm like, all right, well,
46:37
all right. Like, and I was like, you're
46:39
learning these things. I'm a 23 year old kid at the
46:42
time and I'm like, all right, well, learning these things.
46:46
And I was like, man, there is a lot more than you thought
46:50
because we're, we're all superstitious in our own way.
46:54
But when it comes to like sports and, and different things,
46:58
people do things different ways. And it was like learning those
47:01
things was completely like boggled my mind because I'm
47:07
like, oh, all right. They're like, Hey, you can't
47:10
talk to him if it's turned this way.
47:12
And I'm like, oh, all right, well, here we go.
47:14
You mean the cheerful pie everyone in the face guy was had
47:18
like AJ in the in the locker room where if he turned to the.
47:22
Left, there was 4 heads, there was 4 heads on it.
47:25
And it was just kind of the way you did it.
47:27
And I love AJ. AJ was awesome.
47:30
He's been great to my family, been great to me.
47:33
But yeah, he was just a, he was a different, he was a different
47:37
cat. And it was just like he had that
47:41
trigger of what he wants. My God wants your pussy cut.
47:48
Jesus Arrow. Didn't he throw a no hitter with
47:50
nine walks or something like that when he first came up?
47:53
Something something crazy like that.
47:54
That like anyone. Else would have done 88 when he
47:56
was with the Marlins. 8 Ridiculous it.
47:59
Was eight. It was.
48:00
Like a million. People, he still has one of my
48:01
favorite, favorite ever clips in baseball.
48:06
Mike Redmond's the catcher who was a manager in the big
48:10
leagues, and he knocks out the window when the truck is driving
48:16
by. And Mike Redmond, I like, I'd
48:21
look at small things, right? Mike Redmond frames the pitch
48:26
and it's literally in the window and it's one of my favorite
48:31
clips ever in baseball. Oh, you mean this one right
48:34
here? OK, a warm up pitch.
48:38
Coming through. Watch Redmond.
48:39
He frames it. See.
48:44
Jesus. Told ya it's pretty.
48:47
Dumb. That's it's.
48:49
One of the best ones ever. And then they're cleaning up the
48:51
glass. It's one of the best ones ever.
48:55
Look at J, look at AJ is like oops, I'm putting you on a leash
49:01
now. That's ridiculous.
49:07
It was perfect, the best, but literally it's like AJ knew what
49:10
he was doing, but the best is Redmond because they probably
49:14
already talked about it. I've never had that conversation
49:16
with AJ, but literally like Redmond, just watching him just
49:21
frame the pitch like because he knew what was happening.
49:24
I always wondered what AJ had in his mouth all the time because
49:28
it looked. Like he always did.
49:29
Always did. Oh.
49:30
My. God.
49:31
Well, I will. I will say, I will say one
49:34
thing. AJ Burnett, one of my favorite
49:38
teammates, he literally went to a convenience store and you
49:43
know, like behind the convenience store you see like
49:47
the rack of like old school. So this that have been 2009.
49:52
You can't. Do that now they would never
49:54
leave the leave the dip open for you to take.
49:56
It'll be gone within hours. So they would never allow he,
50:00
he. Bought the rack and bought all
50:05
of the cans and he put it in his locker and he's like, if you
50:09
need a dip, get a dip. And he did it.
50:13
And so I never dipped and he was like, you're from Nebraska.
50:16
It's. Wonderful when you have money,
50:19
right guys? It's wonderful, it's wonderful.
50:23
I'll just buy the whole dip here.
50:24
I'll just buy all of them. He bought all of them.
50:28
And that one and that one. All of it.
50:31
He lived in Bowie, MD, at the time.
50:34
Bowie, MD. Wonderful.
50:36
Yeah, still there. Sounds like Swamp Thing.
50:38
Bowie, MD. And remember that movie Swamp
50:42
Thing? He told me he goes, yeah, but
50:46
you'll be fine because that was never a different.
50:49
Oh somebody they just stored. Cool tie game figures.
50:57
Oh, wow, Came in a hockey game. Yeah, tie game, came back all
51:00
the way back. That's pretty great.
51:03
And so he literally told me he goes, you'll be fine.
51:06
And I never, I never dipped. I took a dip in the first inning
51:11
and then after I fished, that was it.
51:13
I didn't do anything. The only thing I'm dipping, The
51:16
only thing I'm dipping is the crap that goes in the ball and
51:18
splashes me in the ass. That's the only thing I'm
51:21
dipping. Well, let's we, we kind of got
51:23
off target here a little bit. Let's just finish this up.
51:26
Errol, how about you? Any superstitions from Hawaii
51:29
base? I had a lot of superstitions.
51:32
One, I didn't speak to anybody before the game and I never said
51:35
anything throughout the game. I actually set up shop.
51:40
There's a dressing room or the, you know, there's a locker room.
51:43
I was in the other room. Now, if you heard the story
51:46
about Billy Smith, before every playoff game, he would hide
51:49
himself and lock himself in a dark room and if anybody walked
51:52
through it, he beat the hell out of them.
51:53
I didn't do anything crazy like that before the game, especially
51:57
a playoff game or if we're in a tournament, I would go into the
52:00
other room. I would get dressed.
52:02
I wouldn't say anything. The only time I would say
52:04
anything is when the coach is yelling at me about to get on
52:08
the ice before my first shift and tells me if you don't play
52:12
hard, you're sitting at the end of this bench.
52:15
That was the only. And I tell the coach go fuck
52:17
himself. That's what I tell him.
52:18
When I got on the bench, that's it.
52:20
That would be the words that came out of my mouth before I
52:23
got on the ice. That was it.
52:25
And he'd laugh at it because he knew what was coming out of my
52:27
mouth before I would even say it.
52:29
So he was waiting. For you on line one or what?
52:32
I wasn't on line one. I'm sorry.
52:34
What are you talking about? Are you talking about playing
52:36
hockey? Yeah, I was online, I was
52:38
either, I was either playing wing, I played defense, I played
52:41
every position in hockey. I even played goalie in certain
52:44
aspects of those, you know, certain games if they needed a
52:47
goalie, I was the second string goaltender that would go.
52:50
I was better than the starter, but I was better more suited to
52:53
play, you know, as a starting right wing, left winger, even
52:56
center. But I was mainly a wing man.
52:58
I was a right winger and I also was a center.
53:01
So I I play multiple positions, but I was on the first line all
53:05
the time. So, but some sometimes if the
53:08
third line, like let's say we needed like a rough line, we
53:11
used to call it the rough line. If if one of the guys was not,
53:15
you know, healthy or something like that, they put me on that
53:17
rough line because I. Like so did did you play rough
53:22
light and and power? Play, you know, it's crazy and
53:25
it's funny that you said that. I, I, you know, during the game
53:29
I would do like minute and 42nd shifts.
53:32
An average hockey player could only do between 45 and a minute
53:35
and 10. I was doing a minute and 45
53:38
minute and 52nd shifts and I would play like 30 minutes in
53:43
the game. So I was, I had a tremendous
53:47
amount of stamina. Now, if I got on the ice, I
53:49
probably I'll be lucky to do 25 seconds. 30 seconds.
53:52
It's a, it beats the hell out of your body.
53:54
People don't realize 30 seconds is like an eternity when you're
53:58
run, when you're skating up and down the ice.
54:00
So that was a superstition, another superstition I had.
54:04
And I never wore my cup, never wore my cup in the playoffs,
54:09
never did. It didn't matter what position I
54:11
played. I never because I liked the,
54:13
the, the air going to my, you know, my trousers.
54:17
So when I I don't know if anybody knows anything about
54:20
hockey, so. By the way, it's not trousers,
54:22
they're Breezers. Yeah, whatever trousers.
54:26
Anyways. So I if you know anything about
54:29
hockey, when you put your pads on, you tape them to your leg
54:33
and then you put the socks on. OK, well, I didn't do that guys.
54:36
I did something different. I wore 2 sets of socks.
54:40
I put the socks on under the pads and then I taped them and
54:44
then I put another pair of socks over them and taped them on top
54:47
of it. You're asking me why I did that?
54:50
Because I never liked to wear the hooks that, you know,
54:53
obviously they were like, what do they call that?
54:55
Like they were straps that locked.
54:59
Onto your. Breath.
55:00
Yeah, onto your breezers. Yeah.
55:01
So I didn't like to do that. So if I did that, there were too
55:05
much air going to my trousers where I wasn't wearing a cup.
55:09
And it would it would like I like to breathe in there.
55:13
So what I did was during the playoff games, I wouldn't wear
55:16
the cup. And I'll tell you this, there
55:18
were some games that I wish I did because people, especially
55:22
the coach, knew during the game that I wasn't wearing it.
55:26
And we'd come over there with one of the other guys sticks and
55:29
hit me over there. He'd go over when I'm not doing
55:32
something right or I wasn't, you know, skating stronger or
55:35
whatever the hell. During a power play or a penalty
55:38
kill, he would take the stick and jab me over there where I
55:41
wasn't wearing a cup and I would be holding my nuts at the end of
55:44
the bench. So this was a true story, by the
55:46
way. And he knew that I was never
55:48
wearing a cup. And he told me, see, This is why
55:50
I tell you to wear your freaking Mr. Marks.
55:53
And he would just tell me. I was like, I'm not Mr. Marks,
55:55
my father's up there. You can tell him I'm Errol.
55:58
And he said, I don't give a fuck.
55:59
Get out there and play your fucking game.
56:00
That's what he used to tell me all the time.
56:02
And he's like, if you don't play your game, you're going to be
56:04
sitting on the bench and you're going to be riding the high.
56:06
The the what do they call the high honey horse or whatever the
56:09
hell he called it? Ride the Pines.
56:12
Yeah, no, he said. Something with a horse, a honey
56:14
horse or whatever the hell he said.
56:17
Are you? Riding your high horse.
56:18
No Hiney horse. You'd be riding the Hiney horse.
56:21
So anyways, yeah, I'm not going to mention, I'm not going to
56:25
mention the coach that said that because if he's listening to the
56:27
show. He's he had a filthy mouth.
56:30
Apparently, dude, you know what you have.
56:32
He's probably the worst. Dude, you have no idea what
56:35
these guys say to you. Yeah, your parents, your father.
56:38
My father used to love him because my father says he's got
56:41
a dirtier mouth than I do, and my father had a dirty freaking
56:44
mouth. So.
56:45
And my father used to tell me you could curse all you want
56:49
inside my house. You walk out and you disrespect
56:52
a parent, I'm going to smack you in the face.
56:54
So I couldn't curse to anybody. But inside my house to my
56:57
brothers, my brother and my two sisters and my parents, we had
57:01
like this connection of cursing and using the F word, you know,
57:04
speedy and all about it. But you know, so I, I, that's,
57:08
that's how it is. And my coach, he had the
57:10
dirtiest freaking mouth, the dirtiest freaking mouth.
57:13
I mean, you can, you can put soap in his mouth and it still
57:15
wouldn't be clean. It was horrible.
57:17
Anyways, that that was probably the two things that I used to do
57:21
during the playoffs and during tournaments.
57:24
I wouldn't wear a cup and obviously I wouldn't speak to
57:27
anybody during the game, but the coach maybe one or two words
57:30
when I told him to go fuck himself.
57:32
So and I always did it by the way, all the time when he told
57:35
me I don't fuck you coach and I get on the ice, I I don't curse
57:39
on his show, but I'm just telling you I have to I have to
57:42
be fair here. I'm going to tell you the truth,
57:44
so. You got to give him credit where
57:46
credit's due. If he, if he that's what he said
57:48
to you, you got. To say it.
57:49
I got to say it. Yeah.
57:50
So that's pretty much what I said to him.
57:52
Coach, you know I love you if you listen to the show, if
57:55
you're, you know, if you remember my dirty mouth, too.
57:58
So there you go. Well, dirty mouths and well,
58:01
actually, you know what they. Call me the ladies man and Mr.
58:03
Still your girl. Well, on that note, I got to ask
58:06
Mr. Speedy. Breaking News A.
58:08
Lot of hot, right? Out of this segment, you got any
58:12
superstition, Speedy? Yeah, play with themselves every
58:14
single night. Grabs one nut and then grabs the
58:17
other. Not, not, not habitual, you
58:20
know, you know, kind of problematic things I'm saying.
58:23
He doesn't wipe his ass, he uses his right hair, not his left.
58:37
Does he use a magnifying glass? Well, it gets raunchy down here
58:50
on a call. I need a magnifying glass.
59:00
You're crazy, man. I love you.
59:04
I love you. Were you crazy?
59:12
I I. Why did I why did I ever sign on
59:15
but. Anybody that hasn't listened to
59:21
this show, well, now you have so.
59:23
You must have been the most fascinating teammate anyone's
59:27
ever had. Her I was definitely.
59:28
Feels like like just craziness. You never knew what you're going
59:33
to get. Like just.
59:35
Madness. Well, I'm like The Nutcracker,
59:38
just the nut didn't crack. I can see you being like,
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remember in like the Mighty Ducks movie, like the second one
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where he's going back to the the AHL and then he gets injured for
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life by the dentist Wolf Stanton.
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You'd be a great dentist Wolf Stanton era.
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I could see that, you know, just like checking people's Acls in
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half. I wasn't that bad take this.
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I wasn't that bad. I just, I didn't take crap from
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anybody when I was on the ice. Just because I was skinny and I
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was small. I could, I can lay one out and
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lay somebody out and I knew how to hit you.
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I knew how to get. What was your playing weight?
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I was like 1/25, 1:30 when I was in high school.
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Really. OK.
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So you were like just very fast. So things have changed.
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Things have changed. Well, I'm, I'm big.
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I'm a big, a bigger guy. When, when I, when I graduated
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from high school, I, I started hitting more weights, but I was,
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I was caught. I'm when I say I'm like 130
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between 1:25 and 1:35. I was I was in good shape and
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and I was fast lightning, lightning fast.
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And that's why when I was coming full force, you wouldn't see me
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stop. I'd just fly right into you.
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That's how I'd stop hitting you and make sure that you felt it
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every single time I hit you. And and and The funny thing is,
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is I would do it in a way like a figure skater.
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It would be like one of those like pirouettes.
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You know, I can't explain it you I could actually show it if even
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the other day. Well, not the other day.
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A couple couple of months ago I went on the ice on a pond and I
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told you I fell back and hit my head.
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But even my friend when after I got up and I shook it off, I
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skated around and the guy says there was a bunch of guys
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skating around with us. He says how how long did you
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play hockey? I said I play a little hockey a
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long time, just like he's like you, you skate like you did so
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and I haven't been on. I didn't been on.
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I haven't been on the ice for like over a year.
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So you never lose it. It's like riding a bike.
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Anything you do, it's like Jabba throwing a baseball.
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You don't lose something you're so comfortable doing, you know,
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so it, it just becomes an, a second nature to you, you know,
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so you know the technique, you know how to, you know, put it on
1:01:50
and, and, and how you, how you can shut it off It it's like
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anything. It's like telling Sidney Crosby,
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Hey, you know what, you're too old, but you can't score
1:01:58
anymore. Sidney Crosby will go and play
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in like a, you know, a men's league right now and put up like
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910 goals and and laugh at you when you said that, you know, so
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you don't lose something that you have.
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You just you lose the, you know, the athletic ability that you
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had as you get older, you just don't have the same ability
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because you get older. So it was a great show.
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Thank you to Jabba at the World Series, the College World
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Series. Thank you to Goody for joining
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us. Congratulations to Goody on
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another win. So congratulations to him and
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extra OT thank you to all the fans on social media.
1:02:32
Thank you to again back to the fans, all the Blue Wire fans
1:02:36
that are tuning into us and checking out our stuff, all the
1:02:39
fans on TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, all of them Spotify
1:02:44
video, Spotify audio, Apple audio, all the different
1:02:48
platforms. Thank you all that all all of
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you guys. I will not be here on Monday and
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Thursday next week. I'll be on vacation.
1:02:55
So you will have Jabba. You will fish runt helping out
1:02:58
and helping run the show. You'll have Tommy off speedy off
1:03:01
Nick. You'll have all the whole crew
1:03:03
and even our interns, but you will not have me.
1:03:06
So I might sneak in maybe if I have, if I can on on the boat,
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I'll. Sneak.
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We don't, we don't want you. You're on the boat.
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Go enjoy it, you stupid ass. I.
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Mean you could pay $30.00 for 5 minutes of Wi-Fi to call in.
1:03:20
I guess, no, actually we have free Wi-Fi.
1:03:21
I paid for it there. You go, I paid for.
1:03:23
It already. So all right, that's it.
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Can I it? Is the worldwide sports radio
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network.