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Not the Yankees' Year? · The 3-0 Take

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take where we talk
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all things Major League Baseball.
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Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
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It all starts right now. Welcome back to the Three O Take
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presented by Chinook Cedry. This is episode 562.
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I'll be your host, Kyle Corwin. I'm here with my Co host and
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just dear wonderful friend Nate Reyes.
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The last thing you said to me before we hopped on this
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episode, you said I hate baseball.
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So I feel like this is a great day to talk about it.
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We got a lot of things to get into here, some things that I
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know you're just thoroughly going to enjoy talking about.
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We're going to talk. We're going to talk some socks
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Yanks. We're going to talk about your
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favorite team in the NL, the Pirates, who you just can't talk
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about enough. Yeah, I mean, every time we talk
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about the Pirates, he said, please, Kyle, can we can we make
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sure we cover the Pirates next episode, too?
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I just love the Pirates. We're going to talk about the
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the the Baltimore Orioles and some other items as well.
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But before we do any of that, we got to talk about the
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unfortunate news of Zach Wheeler being done for the year.
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I'm pissed. I'm going to keep it real with
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you. I'm pissed.
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I've been pulling for this guy to win a Cy Young for years now.
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And every opportunity that this guy gets a he's been, he's been
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at or near the the top of the Cy Young voting for what seems like
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every one of the lasts 5 years I feel like and just either gets
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robbed. I, I feel like or there's
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something that happens like this and the guy's chances get cut
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short and now we're, we're finding out that he is out for
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what's expected to be 6 to 8 months following the the
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surgery. To.
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Square way thoracic outlet syndrome, you sort of alluded to
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knowing a little bit about this and and having some background
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on this, what, what all does this entail?
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I don't fully know. I'm not any kind of doctor.
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I think there was the the update that there was a blood clot
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situation. I can't really speak too much
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about like the the thoracic outlet syndrome, I believe.
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Sorry mom, I don't mean to like out you but like my mom had
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something similar a few years back when I was in college and
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it was she had a rib removed and I want I trying to remember it
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but I feel like this is what she had.
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And if for those who don't know, like your highest rib is like up
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near your collarbone, so it kind of adds up with it being close
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to the shoulder. Yeah, they said in the in the
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article that this this surgery typically entails the removal of
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a rib. And I'm just like this so
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nonchalantly thrown in there as like a footnote like, Oh yeah,
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Zach Wheeler may or may not have a rib removed.
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I if. You didn't know if you didn't
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know that that was like a thing, if you didn't know that a rib
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could be taken out of your body. I remember hearing that for the
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first time and I was like, what do you mean?
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Like, how is that? How is that a thing?
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How is that going to solve anything?
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But it is a pretty serious issue, obviously.
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And it is like it it's like a life thing.
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It's not, you know, I, I think it's difficult to always have
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the lens of like a fan in our sport in mind.
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But like when you have blood clots, when you have this type
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of situation, it's you got to remind yourself, it's like that
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this is kind of like a life decision that was made.
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But it when she had it removed, she had like, it's, it's not
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fun. It's a pretty serious thing.
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And she had to wear this like at least right after the surgery
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because like when you're when you're learning how to like
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breathe without a rib, what that you've had your whole life,
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you're like your body when you're sitting in this hospital
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bed. And if you're sitting up, she
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said that like there wasn't really like every once in a
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while you could find this perfect angle of not laying flap
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and not sitting up all the way that that provided some type of
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relief. And she couldn't really sleep at
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night. You're not laying on your side.
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Like there's like a lot that goes into that.
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And then she'd requested they came in with like this huge like
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corset strap thing that like, it's like this harness that kind
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of just like squeezes your and compresses your body to where
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your ribs aren't like relaxing down as you're inhaling,
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exhaling kind of thing. So crazy to even consider it,
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but also crazier to imagine getting back into book like a
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competing phase, you know what I mean?
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Like getting back to an athletic phase where you can compete at a
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high level, the highest of levels.
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We got to remember that like it's, it's like there are levels
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of having to like learn how to breathe again and like training
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your body how to get something removed from it.
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It's not very simple. So he's going to have to learn
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how to throw again. He's going to learn how to like
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go through that whole process. It's.
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That's tough. And you, you brought up a good
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point and I'm guilty of it. I I mean I could not have.
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We all are. I could not have been more
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guilty of it right off the top. I'm like, I'm pissed, dude, this
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guy loses his chance at another Cyong.
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And you bring up a good point like this, like a a very serious
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condition here that Zach Wheeler is is facing and a a tough
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decision had to be made. And, you know, I got to be able
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to step back and be like, there are things, as much as we love
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baseball is as dedicated as we are, as fans, as dedicated as
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these players are, like sometimes you have to step back
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and realize like it's like this is this is more.
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Important to he, He. Protects his health and and you
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know, the rest of his life with some with with the decisions
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like this. So like we said last time, when,
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when the news officially broke about Wheeler, you know, you,
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you, you wish for a healthy recovery.
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You wish nothing but the best for, for Wheeler and his family
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and, and just hope that he can for his sake.
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Because you, you know, this guy's a competitor.
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This guy just wants to get back out and, and continue dominating
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the way he has pretty much for the entirety of his career.
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And you just hope that he can get back quickly and, and
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healthily and, and continue to do what he does efficiently and
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effectively. So yeah, just some some tough
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news for the for the Phillies, tough news for Wheeler, tough.
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Tough to like just sit here and and like pencil them in or
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Sharpie them. I I should say to like
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automatically been be in the NLCS and like have a I'm not
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going to say like a shoo in attempt at the World Series, but
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like it felt that way. It's felt that way for a good
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two months now of just really good baseball, top of the NL.
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Like removing an ace in a Cy Young candidate.
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I don't care who you are. I don't care how deep your
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rotation is. Like that is a blow.
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It, it, I mean, it really is. But we can honestly, you, you
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circle back to the team of destiny conversation every year,
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you sort of you sort of pick out a team around the league and
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you're, you're, you're sort of keeping an eye on them going OK,
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like, is this going to be the team that sort of sort of fits
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that label? And I'm not saying just yet that
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that's the Phillies, but I, I will be curious to see how this
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team continues to play over the remaining month and change of
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the regular season. Because if they can, if they can
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keep winning, in fact, if they can even figure out ways to sort
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of roll through this last month, it might be worth having a
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conversation of like, OK, are, are the Phillies going to be
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this team that even though they similar to we, we mentioned it
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last time we talked about the Wheeler news similar to the
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Braves with Acuna. You look at the Braves, you're
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going, there's no way you can absorb a blow like losing A and
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what do they do? They go out and win the World
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Series. So if the Phillies can can, you
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know, keep their heads above water and even maybe go on a
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little bit of a roll here in this last month, it's like, all
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right, maybe their rotation is deep enough that it can absorb
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this blow. But to your point, it's it's a
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blow nonetheless. Nobody wants to lose a guy like
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Zach Wheeler. That's a That's just a fact.
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I thought I, I thought it sounded familiar by the way, I
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texted my mom and I said, hey, when you had your rib removed,
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what was the reason for that again?
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Thoracic outlet syndrome. Yeah.
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And she said, man, I mean, I'm not going to out my mom's health
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here on on on live social media, but she's had some stuff and
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that I remember that one being like one of the tougher things
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she's dealt with. So you just hope that like,
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again, like just kind of taking that step outside the lines a
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little bit. And I know that's that's what
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we're here for. Look, we're not doctors.
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We don't know all the details. We're here to cover our our
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favorite sport. But it is hard to remind
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yourself. It's like, you know, this is
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this one isn't as like a oh, it's a baseball injury.
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He didn't blow his ACL out. He didn't blow his elbow out.
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This is just kind of a freak thing that like sometimes people
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get and you just hope that like #1 priority is that he as a
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human, as a person and for his family, that he can get back to
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full health. And then from there, it's like,
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you know, I hope he does get the chance to compete at at his
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maximum again. And like, I hope he gets another
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bit at a Cy Young because like, you're right, dude, he's been so
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good for so long. And like, he is at that point of
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creeping into, I don't know what the overall numbers look like.
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But I can guarantee you that if he was keeping up at this rate
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that there was a Hall of Fame consideration or conversation
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that was going to start to be had.
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So you hope that he's able to get back to that level.
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I don't know. I don't know, man.
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It's hard for me to just slot in the Phillies.
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I understand the destiny thing but like.
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I mean Chris Sanchez, his his his fellow fellow rotation mate.
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He'd probably be an ace anywhere else.
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Also in the mix for Cy Young here, like let's not lose sight
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of that. So going back to the point about
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what that rotation looks like, I think that it's not that they
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just have depth, they've got Cy Young caliber arms, plural
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multiple that they're able to work with.
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So I that's. Suarez went out and dealt today
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too, so it's like they have depth.
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That's I'm telling you, man, even you know, sans Zach
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Wheeler, that rotation is going to be something to behold this
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offseason or excuse me, this postseason.
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Speaking of the postseason, do we think let's let's switch
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gears here to what I believe your your most highly
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anticipated topic of the day is? Yeah, let's do this do.
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We think, no, look, I'm going to, I'm going to take the
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proverbial Red Sox hat off here for just a moment.
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OK? I have AI have a literal hat on,
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but I'm going to take the proverbial hat on.
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And I want to ask you, one of the most intense Yankee fans
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that I know so much to the point where I didn't even really text
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you. I appreciate it.
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The last three days. We we've, you know, I've, we've
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learned over the years that things, things can often go
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unsaid between us during series like this.
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We're, I think we're past the point of ribbing.
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You just know, you know what I'm thinking.
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I know what you're thinking. And we kind of have this.
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And we both know what we're dealing with whenever.
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We're on the low end of that. We both know what our wives are
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dealing with. Oh yeah, Oh, yeah.
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But I want to ask you some of the hard hitting questions here.
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We need to let it air out. The series isn't even over.
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I mean, as of as of right now, they haven't.
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We're still in the others on the other side of Sunday night
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baseball game for the series tonight, but three straight wins
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for the Sox and absolute bludgeoning on Saturday.
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Roman Anthony making his mark Thursday night, sort of
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introducing himself to the Yankee fans that may have not
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been all that familiar with who he was.
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A lot of talk. I I did text you last night,
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However, I didn't I didn't say anything in response to the
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game, but I did say I text you and I said, hey, your quote
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graphic from a couple weeks back about Aaron you saying that
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Aaron boot needs to be fired. Posada would be a dream.
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And it hit a lull after I had posted it, but I noticed a lot
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of comments. Some, yeah, it must have hit the
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Yankee stratosphere because it got picked up by some pretty
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distraught, some pretty distraught Yankee fans.
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And it's starting to starting to pick up some traction with some
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with some pretty angry comments. So let me ask you this.
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And I even see it in the chat here from our from our dear
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friend Pudge. Maybe he doesn't get fired
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tonight, but when does the when does the conversation about
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Boone being let go actually begin to get serious?
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Because I feel like it's been nothing but a talking point,
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something that people like us, these mainstream media networks
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can easily just float around as a as a topic to debate.
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But I don't feel, and you correct me if I'm wrong, I don't
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feel as though the conversations have actually gotten serious
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about what it would look like to have a Yankees team managed by
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somebody other than Aaron Boone. Is that are we, are we even
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getting anywhere close to that you think?
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I think the only way it happens is if, if Cashman gets fired and
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I'm, I, I, I need that to happen.
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I want that to happen. I need this overhaul of, of
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philosophy to change. I think the voice in the
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clubhouse is important. And I think that you got to have
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like, I don't know, I, my only reference is, is the Yankees
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that I grew up with. That's my only reference.
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And it was successful, obviously.
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So I, when you look at like, if I'm not saying that's the only
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recipe to have success, but when you look at that, you have a,
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you have a captain that goes out and is only worried about
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winning. And then you have these role
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players that just kind of slot in and fit in.
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You have your quiet leaders, you have your emotional leaders, you
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have your policing that happens. And that's why I brought up the
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name of like a Posada is because like for again, we've talked
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about this a few weeks ago about you as a Sox fan, like Veritec
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was a captain, but Veritec was very like, this is how we play
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here. And you got to have that vocal.
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You got to have that watch how I do it and lead by example type.
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Like there's got to be this right recipe to create this,
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this winning culture, if you will.
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I think I think Aaron Judge is a great captain.
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I I think he is probably learning as he goes.
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But this whole buddy, buddy, I'm going to back you, I'm going to
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support you no matter what kind of it's just it's done.
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It's not working and. A little bit of a tip between a
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little bit of a misunderstanding, a little bit
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of drama here between Judge and Boone I'm I'm reading about.
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I don't know, it's just like it's this coddling that I just
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don't understand. And I, I, I can get behind
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players wanting to play for a, a player's manager.
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I understand that philosophy, but if you don't have someone
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else in that clubhouse, and I think Stanton kind of tries to
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play that role of like policing it, but it's just it's not
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working. This doesn't work.
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They're they're soft. There is no bounce back.
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There's no attitude, there's no punch you in the mouth, There's
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no step on your throat. There's no embarrassed.
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I'm embarrassed as a Yankee fan. Why is there no embarrassment on
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their end? It's this weird combination of
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like it has players have to play well, obviously managers have to
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say and do the right things and press the right buttons.
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Your front office has to develop the correct roster.
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And when you look down that path, they've passed on names.
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Bryce Harper never even got an offer.
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We passed on Corey Seeger for Anthony Volpe.
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We've shipped out, I don't know, near 1/2 a dozen catchers for
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Austin Wells there. There's a there's a development
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issue, there's a scouting issue, there is a look in the mirror
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issue. There are so many issues that go
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beyond Boone, so I can't just sit here and lay it all on his
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at his feet. There's a lot to go around here
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as far as blame goes. And I don't know if I can
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specifically peg it in in, in any One Direction, but I can
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tell you that this doesn't work. And for for this team to sit
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here and continue to gaslight their their their fan base for
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this entire era, it just doesn't make sense.
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I can't do it. Kyle, let's go to you.
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Yeah. Yeah, I just had quick something
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to say. OK, so honesty hour here because
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you for the last we'll we'll just say last 2-3 weeks I have
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been on you every time. Dryer and even though my there's
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my wife scrambling to get to the dryer.
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Sorry about that. Love that.
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Hey, that's life. That's the business we call
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show. No, I've been on you for the
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last 2-3 weeks. Any time that you bring up like,
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oh, the season's over, man. I can't watch baseball anymore.
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I'm on the football. I got my fantasy draft coming
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up. That's the only thing I have to
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look forward to. And I would look at the at the
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wild card standings and be like, what are you talking about?
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I'd want to like reach through the camera, smack it across the
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face and be like, what are you talking about?
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Now you get it. I got I had a little change of
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heart after this weekend showing from the Yankees.
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I go I I get it because this if this is what you've had to put
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up with all year, despite it's insane, despite holding a wild
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card spot, the fact that you know, again, we've talked about
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the American League is weaker this year.
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If this is sort of the the the lackadaisical, lackluster team
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that that you've had to watch as they've strolled out there, I'd
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be kind of frustrated. Too.
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That's what I'm saying, man. Is that like you?
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It's this false hope that you get during certain stretches.
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Obviously I was high. I was on a high.
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After the deadline, I feel like certain buttons are pressed and
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you're like, makes sense. That's a good button.
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I think you pulled the right trigger here.
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I like that button. But it's so frustrating that
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you're seeing the same thing happen over and over again to
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where at a certain point, it doesn't matter who's on the
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roster. It's bad defense.
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It's contagiously bad offense. Anthony Volpe, do you want to
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talk defense? Not good.
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Horrendous. Not good, just betting.
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Ball hit his way into the the the third the. 3rd go down the
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series by the way. What are we doing?
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How are you going down to your knees on ground balls so often?
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What is that? Haven't they doing?
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Didn't they say he wouldn't have a job if you hadn't met Jeter
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back in the day? Like is there any, any truth to
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that? Because there's no way.
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And the same go, like we said for Boone, The same goes for
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Boone. If he doesn't hit that home run
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in 2003. What are like are are we having
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different conversations here because there is a lot of a lot
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of weird misconstrued loyalty being shown here when I don't
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know that it's entirely deserved or at the very least it's it
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maybe it was initially, but I think it's run its course more
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so with Boone. Volpe is a different situation.
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Boone's been there much longer, but how like it?
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I don't want to. I don't want to keep, you know,
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barking up the Boone tree. But let's let me ask you, this
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was this was this weekend. And I, I don't want to be a
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victim of the moment here, but haven't watched them go up
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against what I believe to be a post season team in the Boston
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Red Sox this weekend and have the showing that they had.
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Again, we haven't even played the 4th and final game of the
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series, but even just the first three games of the series.
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I don't know that the Yankees are the the way that they're
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built right now. I don't know that it's a post
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season team. So with that said, was this
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weekend their their funeral given, given who they're going
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up against, given the way the weekend went?
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And, you know, I feel like we've reached a boiling point with
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some of these things that we've talked about like Boone and and,
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and, and other things. Is there hope for this Yankees
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team? Laura doesn't think so.
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She says afternoon name Kyle. Yankees are toast.
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I mean, they just cut right to it.
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I'm not going to full on say they they missed the post
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season. They have a they're they're
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facing, they can't beat good teams.
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They don't know how to beat anybody that's good.
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Anthony Volpe is trying to turn to.
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What? And gets nobody.
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Out. I don't know what that was.
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That was the one of the most insane.
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There's there's so much, there's a lack of baseball IQ.
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It's crazy. That's a wide issue.
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All right, That is, but it's clear here as well.
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I don't think that I can fully say they missed the post season
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because I think there there's enough talent on the roster to
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keep it afloat and the schedule is really bad the rest of the
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way. They're they play well against
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bad teams. You saw what they did in it.
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I think they had something insane.
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It was like 12 or 14 home runs in A2 game series with the Rays
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before this series last week. Clearly, they unloaded all of
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their offense. 100% they don't know how to.
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They don't know how to beat anybody that's good.
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They're not going to make a run in the postseason.
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I think there's some flexibility that comes around when when
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Judges is going to bounce back to the outfield here in the
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coming weeks. I think that the official
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trigger needs to be pulled on rotating between Caballero and
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Ahmed Rosario at shortstop and Volpi's.
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It's just it's done. It's got to be done.
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It's horrendous. Both.
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He's one of the worst qualified shortstops defensively and
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offensively. It's got to be done.
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They've already kind of like started to force Ben Rice behind
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the dish more than Austin Wells at this point.
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Which, by the way, he had a little bit of a rough show in.
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Early in the series too. You can't blame him.
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You can't blame him because he spent the last two years trying
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to figure out first base and not catching and then you suddenly
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he starts hitting surprise. That's why we kept him around.
26:04
He started hitting and doing that.
26:05
And then you're like, oh, well, we have a, we have ADH.
26:10
So oh, oh, we brought in a first baseman.
26:12
So maybe we'll try him at catcher again.
26:15
You're like, oh, that's great. By the way, the catcher across
26:20
the across the diamond in the other dugout who was in an All
26:23
Star game this year was something that you said no to
26:27
for an Uber driver. I, I don't I it doesn't compute.
26:34
There's the analysis of their own team does not check out.
26:42
It doesn't make sense. There's something off with the
26:45
entire organization on how they evaluate, how they scout, how
26:51
they develop, how they coach. All of it needs to be washed
26:57
away and and rebuilt entirely. Now you know why I'm I've
27:09
mentally moved on to football. I think I saw something on the
27:13
on the broadcast the other night where it said this is their and
27:17
you may have seen it. It's like their what, third or
27:20
fourth longest title drought? Yeah, yeah.
27:26
I think there was 1 like the longest ones in the 20s.
27:30
It was like the pre Babe era. Yeah.
27:33
So we're like right. We're like they're I think, I
27:36
think it's a third, I may be way off on that, but I think it was
27:38
right around third longest title job.
27:41
But they continue to like you said, I think gaslighting is, is
27:45
is a keyword here. They continue to just, you know,
27:48
push the company line. You know, we're, it's right in
27:51
front of us, we're doing the right things, yadda, yadda,
27:55
yadda. They continue to lose.
27:57
They continue to get embarrassed.
27:59
They continue to not win the World Series title, which is the
28:02
ultimate goal. And I'm not saying it's easy or
28:05
that it should be easier that it, it should be something
28:08
that's viewed as guaranteed or automatic, even with a team like
28:11
the Yankees, who have historically been good for the
28:13
last quarter century, just not good enough to to to get it
28:17
done. I just to that point, though, I
28:20
don't think they're doing themselves any favors by, again,
28:24
you know, showing loyalty maybe where it doesn't need to be
28:27
shown any longer or continuing to slot personnel in positions
28:31
that they don't need to be in. Again, we're not, we're not in a
28:35
front office, but there's certain decisions that I just
28:38
feel like 9 out of 10 people could look at and be like, well,
28:42
maybe we should go with this option instead.
28:44
But the Yankees continue to assist upon insist upon their
28:47
own way, and that's why they're at where they're at.
28:50
Yep, yeah, they see. I told you last year that that
28:56
team was not good enough because I watch them everyday and this
29:01
is the stuff I see. The valleys are so, so, so low,
29:09
lower than any other playoff contending team.
29:14
Every team has bad stretches. Every team has bad performances.
29:17
This is hands down this chapter, this era.
29:22
It's just it gets so bad, then we get told it's it's baseball.
29:32
We get told that. Well, our evaluation says that
29:38
he'll turn it around. Our evaluation says he ranks
29:41
higher than that. It doesn't work.
29:46
And like, say what you about Yankees fans, but for the most
29:49
part, we're pretty tapped in and we're pretty involved and we're
29:52
pretty into it. And like, fans in general across
29:56
all sports have more access to stats and are watching more than
30:01
they ever have. So you can't sit here and tell
30:08
us that we're wrong when we're just clearly watching it,
30:12
there's an eye test and there's actual stats confirming our
30:15
opinion and you're telling us we're wrong for years now.
30:22
It's insane. You know what else is insane?
30:26
Nate Cal Raleigh stands alone as the all time Homer leader as a
30:44
catcher. I think he he's already got 2 on
30:47
the day. He hit his 48th about 1/2 hour
30:51
ago, just hit his 49th. Well, I say all time,
30:58
specifically season in the season, obviously 49 homers for
31:02
Cal Raleigh. What a feat for big dumper man.
31:06
And on this beautiful Sunday, I'm I'm, I'm looking at it right
31:10
now. Could not be a better day for
31:12
baseball in Seattle. It's cool, man.
31:21
It's cool. Is it?
31:24
I don't know what it is, but like it just hits harder.
31:28
It hits harder when you have offensive catchers that are able
31:33
to do this. They're able to do this kind of
31:35
damage man. Not to mention a well above
31:39
average defender as well. Like this is awesome to see.
31:45
It's good to see for Seattle too.
31:49
They need it. Hey, since you're talking to Cal
31:51
Raleigh, who wins the ALMVP? No, I'm just kidding.
31:54
We're we're not we don't we don't have to.
31:56
We don't need to go down this road anymore.
31:59
But big news for Cal Raleigh. Again, to to clarify what I said
32:03
earlier, not the not the all time leader in home runs as a
32:08
catcher, but for a single season has passed Sal Perez, who had 48
32:16
prior to this. And honestly, if this year
32:19
hadn't happened with Cal Raleigh, I would have been like,
32:22
does a catcher end up hitting more than 40?
32:23
Like the 48's, a lot of homers, a lot for a catcher.
32:27
And I would have been if you would have told me, hey, nobody
32:29
hits. No, no catcher hits more than
32:31
48. I'd have been like, yeah, that
32:33
that tracks. I'm I'm with you on that.
32:35
But Cal Raleigh having having an absolute career year good for
32:43
good for big dumper. Wanted to just put a little plug
32:46
there as it happened. Mirror, mirror moments ago.
32:50
But let's let's talk, let's talk about another guy that's could
32:58
be could be quite a star. Bubba Chandler made his debut
33:01
this weekend as a bulk reliever. But I'm over it now.
33:07
I, you know, I, I got all my frustration out.
33:11
You know, whatever I've, I said my piece, You still think it was
33:16
anti climatic and I was informed that teams are not in the
33:20
business of trying to be. You know, you feed into the, the
33:25
climactic nature of of events like this, but you know it.
33:29
My response to that is what else do the pirates have going for
33:31
him? Like why, why, why, why pull the
33:34
trigger? Why empty the chamber with with
33:36
the one bullet you had to, you know, to bring him up for a
33:42
debut against the Rockies as a bulk reliever.
33:44
But you know, that's just me. What do I know?
33:48
Any who's had had an exceptional outing, allowed just two hits,
33:53
struck out three across 4 innings, and got a save to which
34:00
I thought was wild, becomes the first pitcher to throw 4
34:04
scoreless innings and record a save in his debut since saves
34:07
became an officially recognized statistic in 1969.
34:12
So this is exactly I think what the Pirates were hoping for to
34:16
see him sort of right the ship after little little bit of a
34:19
rocky stretch there in AAA, sort of sort of got things back on
34:22
track and and hopefully continue this this continue to build off
34:30
the success he's he found in his debut.
34:32
So I'm still looking forward to what that rotation will look
34:36
like with him in it. I don't need, I don't need Bubba
34:38
Chandler in a in a bulk reliever role.
34:41
I don't either I. Don't want to fixate on that,
34:44
but it's just I'm we're still looking ahead to next year.
34:47
I think I've started to wrap my mind around the fact that like,
34:50
obviously innings are kind of under watch here.
34:53
I don't know what his innings were like as a starter in the
34:56
minor leagues, but that's got to be a part of the equation.
35:00
I think as a reliever, it allows you to have that flexibility.
35:04
If there's success, if there's failure, there's not that
35:07
pressure of having to pitch every fifth day, There's not
35:11
that locked in schedule of having to pitch every fifth day.
35:17
As much as we want to see success, as much as we want to
35:23
see dominance the way we saw it with Mr. Skeens, I think this is
35:31
probably the smarter way to go about it.
35:34
I do agree with, I think it gave them flexibility because if he
35:38
comes in as a starter and debuts and goes seven shot, you know,
35:42
just lights out, you're kind of locked in is like, oh, he's a
35:46
starter, I guess. And then we don't know what to
35:48
do where the innings are at. Do we get chastised for shutting
35:53
him down? Like there's a lot of that going
35:54
on. So I can see coming in as a
35:58
reliever, let's ease in. If he still struggles, he can
36:01
hide behind the struggles. If he succeeds, we can manage
36:04
that. Stop.
36:05
There's a lot of a lot of sense that.
36:09
Stop. I don't I don't want to hear it.
36:12
I don't want to hear it. I don't care about I don't care
36:16
about what it might look like if he struggles and, you know,
36:19
approaches and innings limit. I don't I want to see, I want to
36:23
see Pirates pitching like the world on fire.
36:29
That's what I want to see. OK, that's that's what I want to
36:36
see. Stupid song to get deleted off.
36:40
It's never coming off the soundboard unless you fly out
36:43
here, break into our home and and you know how to remove it
36:49
from the soundboard. That's the toughest part.
36:52
I feel like I could get it. No, that's the toughest part.
36:54
Not the flight out here, not breaking into the house.
36:57
It's just figured out how to take it off the soundboard.
36:59
That's right. Yeah, Well, no, No Fear.
37:03
It's it's not coming off the soundboard that that is staying.
37:07
Speaking of staying, gosh man, these Segways are some point
37:12
some, well, Besayo is staying in Baltimore.
37:14
They locked them up with an 8 year extension where $67 million
37:19
includes a $5,000,000 signing bonus.
37:23
Obviously the the talking points to come from this is what does
37:28
this mean for Adley, which we did talk about when, when the
37:35
call up happened. Yeah, briefly, but obviously now
37:39
that the Orioles have, you know, reaffirmed their commitment to
37:43
Besio, it does beg the question, like, what does this mean for
37:47
Bradley? I saw that there.
37:51
Obviously he he can catch. He did see some time at first, I
37:56
think I read more than 100 games across 5 minor league seasons
38:02
and then obviously can slide in as ADH.
38:04
So there is some positional flexibility there, sort of a
38:07
typical, the the typical versatility you'd get
38:10
positionally when it comes to a guy that catches you know you
38:13
can slot him in at first you can obviously DH him, but I don't my
38:21
initial reaction is that this doesn't necessarily mean
38:24
anything long term for Adley. I think the Adley thing is sort
38:28
of its own conversation. I don't know that this move
38:33
directly reflects the Orioles desire to move on from Adley.
38:38
Because. See, I think you can make both
38:40
work if you want to make both work of.
38:43
Course, it's just you got to see we need time.
38:45
It Yeah, I. I what I don't want to see is a
38:50
full on commitment to either one behind the dish.
38:57
I think the flexibility needs to start getting developed with
39:01
adly of getting some first base time.
39:07
I love what it does to a roster to have a flexibility of a
39:10
backup catcher that doesn't have to just sit there as dead weight
39:13
on the bench. Great.
39:15
Point. And and can provide a stick to
39:17
DH and can provide the glove at first because that's such, it's.
39:23
So what does that do to your roster to have that one spot
39:27
freed up to not have to, you know, completely worry about a
39:32
backup catcher? It's going to be interesting.
39:37
I, I don't want to see Paseo fully transitioned to a first
39:42
base in DHI. Don't want to see him because
39:46
what if Adley struggles over the next few years and then all the
39:49
sudden he is coming up on on the end of his control and Basayo
39:53
hasn't caught in two years and the Orioles are like, well, you
39:57
know, Adley hasn't succeeded, so we're going to let him walk.
40:01
Let's try and get Basayo to catch again.
40:03
Like they got to figure out how to manage this properly or vice
40:06
versa, you know what I mean? Or vice versa.
40:10
Like say Adley just starts kicking it into gear and Sam,
40:14
well, Basayo starts kicking it into gear and then you're like,
40:17
well, what do we do? They're both catchers.
40:20
Like they have to. Develop some ability to to play
40:24
first base. I hope they go about this the
40:28
right way and I hope they both succeed.
40:29
I've, I've never really jumped on the adly train.
40:37
I've, I've, I understood how good he was, but I, I've never
40:43
really viewed him as the savior in Baltimore.
40:49
But a little competition never hurts anybody, by the way.
40:52
I think we forget that. No, no doubt.
40:55
But I think to that point, I think the reason we, you know,
40:59
not, not that we're rewriting history, but I think we did get
41:02
excited when, when Adley first came up because if I'm not
41:05
mistaken, he was the, he was like the first, yeah of the
41:09
group. He was like the first of the
41:11
baby birds to really come up and and make a a splash, pun
41:15
intended. And I think that's why we're
41:18
like, OK, OK, we're here. Like we're, we're, we're right
41:23
around the corner from what this could be.
41:25
And as it progressed, we're going OK, like we're falling
41:29
right in line. Like this is tracking exactly
41:31
how it's like we got gunner up here, We're getting some of
41:33
these other guys up here and we're like, OK, we're we're,
41:38
we're coming up on 100 win seasons.
41:40
We're we're making it to the postseason.
41:42
And then, you know, obviously things sort of took a step back
41:46
and now we're going, OK, we need to re, you know, reset, reassess
41:50
things. And now with with Paseo up, it's
41:53
like, OK, now we really got to take a step back and, and take
41:57
into account what we have here, especially considering the lack
41:59
of what they did at the deadline and regarding moving personnel
42:03
and maybe offloading some, some of the depth that they had.
42:08
So it'll be interesting to see. I don't think the, the window
42:12
has closed for the Orioles, but some some harder, some tougher
42:17
decisions I think are going to have to be made.
42:18
And you, these are decisions that you can't kick down the
42:21
you, you can't kick these cans down the road and be like, oh,
42:24
we'll just figure it out later. Like you.
42:26
If you want to to keep this window open, you're going to
42:29
have to make some signings, something that I think Orioles
42:32
fans were anticipating more of at this point in this window,
42:38
signings that are actually noteworthy and not just like,
42:41
well, we'll throw what was it, 40 something million at Tyler
42:46
O'Neill like that. That's that's kind of like a
42:48
Band-Aid really. So I I don't know, we'll see,
42:53
but. I need to have an honest
42:55
evaluation too, and make sure that the pieces that move on
42:58
from don't bite them stours. That hurts, you know what I
43:04
mean? Like, see him doing what he's
43:06
doing in Miami. It's like you got to figure out
43:12
who to keep. Then they do have to figure out
43:15
who to like, you can't just sit on it.
43:19
You got to move guys because there is this, I think time
43:26
period where like you can't allow these guys to just sit in
43:30
the minor league system for too long and then kind of get ruined
43:36
and lose their value. You know what I mean?
43:38
Like it's this is not easy to manage.
43:41
I guess they tanked for too long.
43:48
Closing the book here just some items it I didn't feel as though
43:53
it warranted a full segment here but I just wanted to say a quick
43:57
little something on the Padres Dodgers series.
43:59
I hope the Dodgers fans that were running their mouth after
44:03
the sweep of the Padres like a week ago take take a good look
44:07
in the mirror when they wake up Monday morning.
44:10
We're on those kind of we're on the verge.
44:13
We're on the verge as as the Padres go up two to one on the
44:20
Padres go up to one on the Dodgers here in the third.
44:23
We're if you know, there's still a lot of ball left.
44:25
But if this were to hold, we're looking at a sweep and the
44:29
opposite direction of what we saw a week ago and we saw
44:31
dodgers fans running their mouth a lot of a lot of Dodgers fans.
44:34
Sorry, this is more just me getting this off my chest.
44:37
This doesn't really have much to do with, you know, anything that
44:40
we've talked about. But for sure, my, my quote, my,
44:44
my, my quote graphic as I'm as I've alluded to on here, were
44:48
from a couple episodes ago where I said if A7 game NLCS started
44:52
today between these two teams, I'm taking the Padres.
44:55
I'm 100% taking the Padres. A lot of Dodgers fans taking
44:59
their victory laps and here we are again.
45:01
If this were to hold they they've already won the series.
45:04
But if they go on to sweep, we're looking at a a tie, a tie
45:09
NLCS in this hypothetical scenario.
45:11
So I don't know what what exactly what victory lap the
45:14
Dodgers fans were were running, but any who's just just goes to
45:19
show you how finicky this game can be sometimes and how quickly
45:22
things can change. Very true, But I'm kind of
45:26
hoping that, you know, we keep this score 21 because I've got
45:29
Yamamamoto on on the fantasy bump and I really need a good
45:33
show in from him. So let's let's hope this score
45:36
holds. However Speaking of on the bump,
45:41
Shane Bieber made his debut over the weekend.
45:43
Struck out nine across 6 Indians of one run ball in his debut
45:49
with the Jays 1st. At a certain point we're going
45:54
to have to have a a serious discussion about because they
45:58
have not faded, dude, not falling off.
46:02
For I mean, if there were Blue Jays fans that wanted to take
46:06
it, I'll hear, I'll hear out those victory laps.
46:09
If there were Blue Jays fans that were coming after me,
46:11
coming after you about being like, well, I don't this isn't
46:14
going to this isn't going to maintain.
46:17
This isn't going to last. I was saying that.
46:21
We're eating crow on that for sure.
46:23
I'm eating crow. They, they can take their, they
46:25
can take your lap on that. Shane Bieber is a as a scary
46:29
addition to an already scary Blue Jays team.
46:33
Yeah. So, but even aside from how the
46:36
Jays are doing, just good, good news for Shane Bieber.
46:39
I think it was like it's like almost a year and a half, I
46:41
think away. So love to see that for for
46:44
Biebs, some unfortunate news. Austin Riley's out for the year
46:50
having core injury surgery. I want to be honest with you.
46:52
I don't entirely know what core injury surgery is.
46:56
Me neither. I thought that was just in
46:59
reference to where the injury was, but apparently core injury
47:03
is something more specific. I don't know.
47:06
It's I'm not a doctor. I don't know.
47:10
Can't tell. You couldn't even.
47:12
Guess This is why I keep my core soft.
47:20
There's no, there's no straining over here.
47:22
They're not there, you know. Well, I mean no disrespect, but
47:29
I don't know. I don't, I don't know that
47:30
Austin Riley is is the chiseled Schwarzenegger that maybe we
47:36
think he is. Country strong.
47:37
How far, how long is he out? I mean like how long is the
47:41
recovery? Obviously he's done, but like,
47:44
he's fine to come back next year on time, right?
47:48
I would imagine so. There's no rib.
47:52
There's no rib being removed, you know.
47:56
Yeah, I mean, we're not talking like an Adam and Eve situation
47:58
here. Like you're hopefully just, you
48:00
know, back back for opening day, I think should be pretty.
48:05
I would have had to imagine if this was something more.
48:08
Well, more more. Urgent.
48:10
There's 17 games out of it so. Still.
48:14
Hopefully, probably smart just shut him down.
48:18
Still hope well-being a Speaking of being out of it, the Rockies
48:23
were eliminated from post season contention today.
48:26
So that's tough. You know, they gave it their
48:29
best go. We'll maybe run it back next
48:32
year, see if maybe next year is the Rockies here October.
48:36
You'd hate to hate to see a repeat.
48:38
They are currently -349 runs on the run differential.
48:47
Which, you know, the numbers don't tell the whole story.
48:50
You know, the Rockies were it's, it's a shame.
48:53
It's a shame the season is only 162 games because the Rockies
48:57
were right on the cusp. They were in the corner.
49:00
They were turning the corner and they were getting ready.
49:04
I mean, they're five and five in their last ten.
49:06
They granted they lost four straight, but they were, they
49:08
were so close. They were so close.
49:12
Four games. Again, win, loss, record doesn't
49:17
tell the whole story. They were.
49:20
They were. They were better.
49:28
Yo. Just trying to be positive here,
49:31
man. Just trying to be positive.
49:32
Keep it up, keep it up. How are we feeling?
49:39
Positive. Negative about the Craig Kimbrel
49:41
addition to the Astros staff. Can I just, I'll just go ahead
49:50
and say what you think of your answer.
49:52
I don't, I don't necessarily think that this is going to do
49:54
much of anything. I feel like this is just kind of
49:56
another blip on the radar. Be like, oh, that's interesting.
50:00
Has a few saves, maybe some important saves, has some blown
50:04
saves. And then maybe he finds a job
50:07
somewhere else or just retires and we kind of go from there.
50:13
I don't. I don't.
50:14
The the hater thing is pretty serious.
50:17
Yeah, it's on the it's on the 10 day.
50:22
It's let's see. I don't know if or, excuse me,
50:25
the 15 or no. He's yeah, he's done for the
50:28
year. That's right, haters.
50:30
Yeah, yeah, it said he would take him three more three more
50:37
weeks to ramp up after his three-week shutdown, meaning he
50:41
likely won't pitch again in the regular season.
50:43
So and that was a week ago. So I think.
50:46
There would have to be like a deep post season run for see him
50:49
return. No, I don't I mean no
50:57
disrespect. How how did how did the
50:59
opportunities keep coming up? You're telling me there isn't
51:03
someone better in your organization?
51:07
You're telling me there's not a better option?
51:09
It does look, well, sorry about the hater thing.
51:11
It does look like October's still in the mix.
51:15
So not ruling that out. But either way, still tough blow
51:19
for for the Astros. But yeah, I'm I'm with you.
51:22
Like is there? Is there not a better option?
51:27
Why did why did teams act like anyone in the minor league
51:32
system is like bagging groceries like they're they're
51:37
professional athletes? I'd like to give one of these
51:39
guys a shot. Well then whatever.
51:42
On the on the flip side, you bring in a guy like Craig
51:44
Kimbrel and then everybody acts surprised when he goes out and
51:47
blows 2 saves in a weekend like that's.
51:50
Insane. That's just what he does.
51:52
No disrespect, one of the best to ever do it.
51:54
But at this stage in his career, what, like, what are you really
51:57
hoping for here? And I get it.
51:59
You kind of have to make tough decisions when when some of your
52:02
better arms go down, you're like, OK, well, what do we do?
52:05
But going back to what you said, there's got to be somebody else.
52:08
No, I don't know. Gosh, just enough.
52:12
Enough is enough. And lastly, here we'll end on a
52:16
positive note. Adrian Beltre, did you let me
52:20
let me get this on, let me get this up here.
52:22
Did you see the statue that they put it's.
52:27
Bad. Dude, no, no, no, no.
52:30
I'm putting it up. I'm putting it up.
52:32
I'm putting it up. Check out this statue.
52:35
Dude, look at this thing. Tell me that.
52:44
I mean, that's that's top shelf. I need to see the face.
52:49
I don't care about the face. Nobody's looking at the face.
52:53
The pose is all you need. You know, they could have went,
52:56
they could have went something stupid, like, like just him
53:01
standing there, him waving to the crowd.
53:03
No, you go with you go with Beltre on a knee and you call it
53:08
a day. And not to mention the the
53:13
funny, the funny part about it. Let me see if I can find this
53:15
picture. One of the first people, one of
53:22
the the. Picture with him standing next
53:24
to it is sick. One of the Here we go, here it
53:30
is. One of the first people to touch
53:32
it after it was unveiled. Was Elvis Andrews touching this?
53:37
Yeah. I thought that was fantastic.
53:39
That I mean, that's that's good. That's good baseball lure right
53:44
there. I think the face looks pretty
53:47
good. Job well done.
53:48
Because I feel it's it's been a rough stretch of statues as of
53:53
late in the in the sports realm. How are we missing so often
53:58
these? Days like it's just like, how
54:00
are these? I feel like that's a very
54:02
specific job. Literally one job.
54:06
Make it look like the person. Can't mess it up.
54:09
You see the Tom Brady 1? It's like 15 feet tall.
54:14
It's the biggest statue of all time.
54:17
Well, I mean, there's Statue of Liberty outside of Gillette
54:21
Stadium bro, like. Was it outside or was it was it
54:28
outside Gillette? Why do I feel like it was like
54:30
near the tunnel? Was it not?
54:32
I think it's outside I get. Yeah, I guess that'd make sense.
54:34
I don't know why I thought I saw.
54:35
Well, they. Have like a weird entrance into
54:37
their stadium but and also the chose like another props to the
54:45
Beltre is that like the statue is just like so spot on with
54:51
like a pose moment like that. He's known for that.
54:56
Exactly. Like the Brady ones, just like,
54:59
like there's so many sick Brady snapshots that are like holding
55:05
up the the Lombardi Trophy, like the.
55:07
Or like the the holding the head.
55:08
The holding the head, like there's so many, like, sick
55:11
moments that you could have just been like, this is the one we're
55:15
going with. OK, I don't know, man.
55:18
And to your point about make it not like having so many misses,
55:22
like all it should have taken was for these teams and these
55:25
organizations who, you know, have situations where they have
55:29
statues, all it would take is for them to look at the the
55:33
Ronaldo statue. What?
55:36
Are the worst. If we need, we need to have a
55:40
lockdown process of hiring whoever were like.
55:44
It needed to be a a very real look in the mirror across across
55:49
the statue game. Yeah, the the sculptors out
55:53
there, I hope you, I hope you took a good look in the mirror
55:57
and ask yourself, am I, am I really cut out for this?
56:00
Yeah, the D Wade one like a month ago, Not good.
56:04
Yeah, he was like 6 inches tall and that one wasn't he?
56:06
Is it? That's the AI one, the Allen.
56:09
Iverson 1 is so like. That's so mean.
56:12
That's so disrespectful, man. What's that about?
56:16
Come on. That was oh, that was that had
56:18
been humiliating. Any.
56:19
News. Yeah.
56:21
Big good on the Rangers. Excellent job.
56:24
Big moves. For the Rangers in Beltre, Love
56:26
to see it. Any other thoughts before we get
56:30
out of here? I did all right.
56:33
I did all right. Talking socks, Yanks I.
56:35
I do appreciate you. I really do.
56:37
I really do. I don't, I, I don't have the
56:40
heart to take it. I mean, we, I had to chaperone
56:45
our our youth. Group to King's Dominion
56:48
yesterday and we're, we're like like riding bumper cars and I'm
56:52
watching socks pour on like 7 in the 9th and I'm getting like hit
56:57
in the back and I'm just taking it and I'm going to got nothing
57:00
but a smile on my face and I'll pause, you know?
57:04
First of all, the. You guys, sorry, I had to read.
57:14
I had to backtrack that I was like, what?
57:15
What did I say? Yeah, yeah, you got some.
57:17
Cool, you got some cool chaperone opportunities popping
57:21
up, man. It's Orioles games.
57:23
It's amusement. Park summer work summer with our
57:26
church. You know, it is, it is what it
57:28
is. But I'm, yeah, I've gotten to go
57:29
some cool places. But yeah, I'd I'd I was too busy
57:35
keeping track of our of our little of our kiddos and and I
57:38
didn't have time to. Doing your job?
57:40
To really take, take shots at you, you know?
57:43
I appreciate it. I didn't have the heart, I mean.
57:45
12 to one. Full transparency, I've I've
57:48
I've turned multiple games off in this in this series and I'm
57:51
I'm not watching tonight so. Did you see that?
57:54
Did you see that clip of Josie McFly after the Roman Anthony
57:59
Homer on on Thursday night? He said, well, because he
58:03
streams the games and he's sitting there watching them and
58:06
you can hear the crack of the bat and immediately picks up the
58:10
remote, turns the TV off and just turns the stream.
58:13
Off Yeah, dude. And I'm like, I get it.
58:16
I, I've been there. Like I'm going to sit there and
58:18
laugh and I'm going to rejoice in, in watching the demise of
58:21
the Yankees. But at the same time, I get it.
58:23
I'm like, I've been there. I I don't even want to.
58:27
I don't even know what they. Did at this point, yeah.
58:29
Like I'm struggling to to care about any baseball.
58:35
So just give me some time once we get into the postseason, I'll
58:40
oh, thanks. I'll, I'll see if I can turn it
58:43
around. I don't know.
58:45
Alex in chats. I'm glad to see Nate smiling,
58:47
considering the bloodbath, his shake.
58:49
Yeah, I'm, I'm honestly, I'm, I'm impressed you're even here.
58:51
So, yeah, and one last one for the for the road Yankees are
58:56
toast. So I think on that note, we'll
58:58
wrap it up. Oh, check out the merch.
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Merch dropped, in case you missed it.
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Merch dropped Friday. Got some got some pretty sick
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collection once, once it gets a little cooler, there's a little
59:21
bit of chill in the air, obviously not out there, but
59:25
there's not yet a little a. Little.
59:28
Some leaves are falling out of here, so post season baseball
59:32
right around the corner. But yeah, check out
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shop3otake.com/shop and we'll see you guys.
59:43
Oh yeah, that hat's there too. I threw that.
59:45
I had. I did you a salad.
59:47
I threw it. I know how much you love that
59:49
design. I threw it on a shirt there for
59:51
you. And that's I know.
59:52
I showed I showed my sister's boyfriend yesterday and he was
59:55
like that is unbelievable. I got to get one of these.
59:58
These are nice and the green bill underneath his.
1:00:02
That's so top tier. Nothing beats an underbill green
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Nothing. It doesn't.
1:00:11
It's this, whatever that brand is, the classic.
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Yeah, I threw, I threw that design on the on the PEC and
1:00:20
then on that same shirt, it's on the back as like a large like
1:00:23
back. Yeah, I'm getting that for show.
1:00:27
Pretty clean. Yeah, pretty clean.
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Pretty, pretty cool. Check that out and like I said,
1:00:32
we'll see you guys Wednesday. If you guys ever have any
1:00:36
questions, if you ever if you just want chat ball, hit me up
1:00:41
in the DMS. You know, if if you have things
1:00:43
that you want us to, you know, there's a lot of baseball.
1:00:46
Going on, if there's things about a miss, maybe maybe we're
1:00:49
at the Air it Out segment of for a lot of teams where we're just
1:00:53
going to say goodnight to a lot of teams.
1:00:57
Maybe there's some fans out there that you just need to air
1:01:00
it out a little bit. DM us.
1:01:01
Say their, say their. What's the word their?
1:01:06
You say their team's eulogies. You've said, you've said you've
1:01:10
said a eulogy for the Yankees on here more than once.
1:01:12
So I think some fans would enjoy that option.
1:01:15
Pretty good at it. Any who's that's all I got.
1:01:21
Don't go chasing curveballs. We'll.
1:01:23
Have you on as always, looking forward to talking more baseball
1:01:25
with you guys soon. Until next time, stay filthy.