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- 0:00Warning. The following podcast contains an entertaining look at astronomy, physics, and
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- 0:23of stars, Made of stars? Made where Stars? You could be from
- 0:34High Hollywood, New Mexico, Mars, Where Stars? When we are made
- 0:55of stars. I'm West Carroll joined, I'm a good friend doctor Sean Cruisen
- 0:58from Columbus State University. He's Coca Cola Space Science Center. Hey Sean,
- 1:03Hey Wes, it's good to be with you today. Man. Do we
- 1:06have a information packed show? Well, and it's a show filled with huge
- 1:14stories, and it's like each one of these would probably be the main story
- 1:19on any other week. So when you've got that, you have to kind
- 1:23of figure out, well, which one is the most important story? And
- 1:27I mean we could Talco Cyrus Rex first. That's been a story that I've
- 1:32had more than one person ask me about since our show last week. Knowing
- 1:37that you know it's now down and it's been opened and all that stuff,
- 1:42we could be talking about anti matter and Einstein. I mean, that's kind
- 1:48of a big deal also, but I feel like we have a local tie
- 1:53to the story that is obviously the record breaking story as now Frank Rubio formerly
- 2:01of the Chattahoochee Valley area, formerly at Fort Benning or now Fort Moore,
- 2:07but when he was there, it was for Benning. But Frank Rubio has
- 2:10returned to Earth and he is now a record breaking astronaut. Yeah. So
- 2:16there are people who you and I both know who know Frank Rubio really well,
- 2:23because again, as you said, he was part of our community,
- 2:25right. So, so, I mean, you know, it's like cheering
- 2:30for your favorite football team. It's not necessarily that you know all the players
- 2:32on your favorite NFL football team. I'm trying to decide which team that is
- 2:37right now, by the way, because my old team was done some really
- 2:39horrible things. But anyway, sorry, anyway, sorry about the seventy that
- 2:44we're hung on your Broncos. Last week. That was I felt the pain
- 2:49for you every single time I got a scoring wait wait wait this just in
- 2:53Miami just scored again. Sorry, it was so after the six touchdowns,
- 3:01I was kind of like, wait, was that seven? Wait? Was
- 3:05that eight? Wait? Was that nine? Are we going double digits?
- 3:13Yes? Was the answer. Yes. So anyway, yeah, and I
- 3:16watched every painful minute of that game because it's one of the rare Denver Bronco
- 3:22games that was on national broadcast rather than local. I'll bet they regretted that
- 3:28decision, or maybe they didn't, because it was just like that much of
- 3:30a roller coaster ride. They had fans in the stands screaming for blood.
- 3:34They wanted that seventy three, or they wanted to beat the seventy three and
- 3:38get a new record. But I know it was painful for you, and
- 3:43sorry that I had to we had to even bring it up and talk about
- 3:46it. But anyway, speaking of records, West, let's get back to
- 3:51space, shall we. The that part of my life is still bleeding,
- 3:54all right, So all right, here we are back in space. Frank
- 3:58Rubio, as we talked talked about, has ties to our local area,
- 4:01which is really cool. But Frank Rubio also just became the United States single
- 4:09longest flight participant of a space flight. So in other words, he is
- 4:15the NASA astronaut who has spent the longest time in space on a single flight,
- 4:21and that all came to a conclusion on Wednesday of this week, and
- 4:27we tip our hat to miss Rubio astronaut Rubio for riding out the storm in
- 4:34orbit and staying the extra time. Because see, folks, here's the thing.
- 4:40He wasn't originally scheduled to spend that long in space. It was not
- 4:45a plan of NASA to make Frank Rubio its longest serving single flight astronaut.
- 4:51It happened because of something that no one can control. A micro meteorite hit
- 4:59the spacecraft that he had ridden to space in that was a soy use capsule.
- 5:04In other words, he flew Russian, all right, so you gotta
- 5:09make your choices about airlines. He flew Russian, but you know that the
- 5:13Russians couldn't help. But if a microbetr right's coming along and it's gonna hit
- 5:16your it's gonna hit your cooling system for the second time in a row.
- 5:21Oh wait what, No, I don't know about anything about that anyway.
- 5:27Yeah, apparently a micro meteorite hit their system and caused their ammonia to leak
- 5:32all into space like a gigantic Doctor Shivago like blizzard, which just completely coded
- 5:40their spacecraft and frozen ammonia, which is fairly spectacular to watch. By the
- 5:44way, that video's out there, friends, you can go out and watch
- 5:46that. Anyway. That delayed Frank's flight, so his return flight to home
- 5:53by six months, the equivalent of the time he planned to spend in space
- 5:58in the first place, which means it doubled the length of his stay in
- 6:03orbit around the planet Earth. And that's why it is a newsworthy story.
- 6:09Friends. So we've had other astronauts that have passed the one year mark,
- 6:15just not from the US. And the previous record holder for an American astronaut
- 6:21was almost a full year. It was ten days, shy or whatever.
- 6:27Is there a reason that they don't necessarily enlist them to be there longer?
- 6:32Or is I mean, obviously with the previous record, you know, was
- 6:38he scheduled to be there three hundred and fifty five days? So you know,
- 6:45I know, we get hung up on records. I mean, you
- 6:47know, seventy points, you know that kind of thing. We get hung
- 6:50up on milestones. Why didn't they go to seventy three? I don't know,
- 6:55they could have easily anyway, They probably could have gotten to seventy seven
- 6:59was no problem quite frankly, but that's a different story. I thought they
- 7:01were getting there. They had one run at the end, and it looked
- 7:04like it was about to happen, And I mean, I think people were
- 7:08taking a knee anyway. So NASA really doesn't plan their missions according to that.
- 7:15They don't say, you know, a calendar year is three hundred and
- 7:18sixty five days long, perhaps we should have an astronaut who stays more time
- 7:24than that. That's just not really a consideration. And again for those of
- 7:30us who are outside of their field, we think, well, wouldn't it
- 7:32be cool of you? I mean, why don't we Actually, he's only
- 7:35a few days, shy, let him stay up there and pass a calendar
- 7:39year. Okay, So the last person, as you said, who had
- 7:43who had held the rector was Mark Vandeheigh. And Mark VandeHei by the way,
- 7:46is he's got one of the greatest astronaut pictures ever. It's the day
- 7:51he came down on the Soyuz capsule, and he's got these weird sunglasses on
- 7:57his decidedly square head, and is it looks like an AI generated photograph of
- 8:05an astronaut. It's just the greatest picture ever Mark VandeHei, who, while
- 8:09taking that photograph had just returned to board to se US after spending three hundred
- 8:13and fifty five days in space. And again the average person might say,
- 8:18well, he's only ten days short. Well, NASA doesn't care a lick
- 8:22about that. What they care about is the set of task that they have
- 8:28assigned to an astronaut to complete in orbit, and if they're going to decide
- 8:33on a long duration spaceflight, it has a lot to do with the frequency
- 8:39or the arrival schedule of various spacecraft and what it is that that astronaut needs
- 8:46to be accomplishing while they're in orbit for all of the experiments that they've been
- 8:50trained to carry out, and some of those experiments can be in long duration
- 8:56spaceflight. They can be a series of biomedical battery of tests that you know,
- 9:03the longer they spend up there than they can investigate more things about muscle
- 9:07mass loss or bone density loss or that kind of thing. But that's never
- 9:11going to be the main reason that they decide to send an astronaut astronaut to
- 9:16space. With the possible exception of Scott Kelly doing the twin test with his
- 9:24twin astronaut brother Mark Kelly. That may have been the one time that was
- 9:26like, okay, yeah, let's let's calendar the days. But even then
- 9:31it's still it still was a consideration. But but yet it really wasn't the
- 9:37main motivation. It's still it's all about safety, and it's all about the
- 9:41jobs and tasks that they have them lined up to do. So, so
- 9:46when there's a milestone that we think is important, like three hundred and sixty
- 9:48five point two four days making a calendar year, then that's just us,
- 9:56with our strange numerology fixations, trying to you know, pass a milestone that
- 10:01seems important, and NASA really doesn't buy off on that much. So that's
- 10:05really the reason why for folks that do care about the records. This puts
- 10:11Rubio in third place, is that right? For longest? Yeah, third
- 10:16place all time for any nation. He's number one with US astronauts. Turns
- 10:26out that his two crewmates, who are Sergate procopy of and Dmitri Pellatin,
- 10:33they were on the same they were on the same soil us that sprung the
- 10:37league. They had to wait them the same amount of time to come home,
- 10:39so they have the exact same number of days, hours, and minutes
- 10:43in space, which at this point, by the way, unofficially is three
- 10:46hundred and seventy days, which is more than a year. Three hundred and
- 10:48seventy days, twenty one hours, twenty two minutes. So they had that
- 10:52same amount of time in space. So that ranks all three of them in
- 10:58third position on the all time list, because two other Russians spent longer periods
- 11:05of time in orbit. Trying to think where they yeah, they were Soviets,
- 11:09I believe at the time right two other Soviet astronauts, well, at
- 11:13least one was for sure. Anyway, I will argue that point they were
- 11:16from Russia. So the longest flight by any one astronaut was four hundred and
- 11:20thirty seven days. That was a Russian doctor named Valeri Paulyakov. He was
- 11:28aboard the Mirror Space Station, so that was even prior to the International Space
- 11:33International Space Station or ISS. And then there's also a retired astronaut by the
- 11:41name of Sergei Avdevyev. And Sergei Avdevyev spent three hundred and eighty days in
- 11:50space aboard the Mirror Space Station between nineteen ninety eight and nineteen ninety nine anyway,
- 11:54So so both of these Russian astronauts are ahead of the trio that just
- 11:58returned to Earth, including Frank Rubio. So that's why that team now falls
- 12:03into number three all time for a single flight. And Frank is still now
- 12:11the longest serving American astronaut five thousand, nine hundred and thirty six orbits.
- 12:18He circled the planet five thousand, nine hundred and thirty six times. Well,
- 12:22why didn't they let him go to six thousand, because it doesn't mean
- 12:26anything. That's fine. I would have traveled one hundred and fifty seven million
- 12:31miles. I would imagine the biggest adjustment for someone like Rubio. And we
- 12:37always talk about the training and the amount of focus these guys have because they
- 12:43work through problems in a way. They're trained to work through problems in a
- 12:46way that most of us don't. They have no room for panic, they
- 12:50have no room for emotion when they're in a crisis situation. However, I
- 12:54would imagine, and this is just me guessing, but when you tell one
- 13:00hey, your six months time is going to now be a year. Rubio,
- 13:03a family guy with four kids and a wife back on Earth, it
- 13:11didn't surprise me to see that he's planning on really focusing on them while he's
- 13:18in the immediate time that he's back on Earth. Yeah, and he did.
- 13:22He took the unusual step. And mind you, this is an unusual
- 13:24situation, so no one really blames him, I think, but he did
- 13:28take the unusual step of saying, of admitting that had he known that his
- 13:35time was going to double, he might have declined the flight. You don't
- 13:41really hear NASA astronauts ever saying in public that they might decline the flight.
- 13:46And again, it is football season. We use our NFL analogies. This
- 13:50would be like the offense talking badly about their own defense or vice versa.
- 13:56I mean, it'd be like the Jets defense well on their mind anyway.
- 13:58So so the the point of this story is that because of the unusual situation,
- 14:05I think Frank felt like he could open up about how it affected him
- 14:09a little bit more. And so we have some very interesting comments that he
- 14:11shared with various members of the press and folks. Just to give you a
- 14:15reference, this is from a story on spaceflight now dot com that is one
- 14:20of our favorite space reference sites, so we often quote that website here on
- 14:24this podcast, So if you want to read the story, go check out
- 14:28spaceflight now dot com. I think there's like three different stories about Frank Rubio,
- 14:31and I pulled quotes from more than one of them. So rubio father
- 14:37afore said quote hugging my wife and kids is going to be paramount, and
- 14:43I'll probably focus on that for a couple of days. We're blessed to have
- 14:48a quiet kind of backyard, and I think just going out in the yard
- 14:52and enjoying the trees and the silence up here, we kind of have the
- 14:58constant hum of machine. So I'm looking forward to just being outside and enjoying
- 15:03the peace and quiet. Now, we don't really think of the long term
- 15:09physical and maybe psychological effects of being in a tiny mechanical tube that orbits the
- 15:16Earth five thousand, nine hundred plus times for over three hundred and sixty five
- 15:20days, but you can imagine that you start to feel a tad housebound maybe
- 15:26a way of thinking about it. And so these effects that Frank Rubio's describing
- 15:33are probably common to lots of different astronauts, right, but because he's now
- 15:37the record holder for the US, he's feeling kind of free to say,
- 15:41hey, it gets a little tiring being up in that environment for an extremely
- 15:45long time, just because you can never escape the sound of machines running.
- 15:48Right, you don't get to see green and breathe fresh air and all those
- 15:52kinds of things that that calm us and make us whole. Right, So
- 15:56he went on to say this, He said, it will take him a
- 15:58few months to get his legs, his land legs back under him. And
- 16:02so the quote is, quote your vestibular system is probably the most affected.
- 16:07And then after that, really it's a couple of months to regain your strength.
- 16:11Our trainers do a great job of keeping us in shape up here,
- 16:15but the reality is we're not standing, we're not walking, we're not bearing
- 16:21our own weight, and so it just takes some time to get your bones
- 16:26and your muscles used to doing that consistently back on the Earth. So it'll
- 16:30be anywhere from two to six months before I essentially say that I feel normal
- 16:37unquote. So that's that's that's a really important aspect of long duration spaceflight is
- 16:42that these astronauts have to feel these effects that Frank Rubio described and so so
- 16:48yeah, it's it's going to be it really does affect their bodies. It's
- 16:52going to be a recovery time when he's back on Earth before he can just
- 16:56kind of do normal things. So it's an interesting, an interesting set of
- 17:00circumstances. And obviously, and we talk about the family aspect of it,
- 17:04the things that you miss when you're gone. You know, he's gone for
- 17:08a whole year, so all four kids and his wife have all had a
- 17:11birthday. He's had a birthday. You know, they've all missed that with
- 17:15each other. Yeah. Again, this is another quote from Frank Rubio quote.
- 17:22On a personal level, it was pretty tough just because I was missing
- 17:23my family and I knew I was going to miss some pretty big milestones for
- 17:29my kids, especially birthdays, anniversary. My son's going to head off to
- 17:33college this year. My oldest daughter is finishing up her first year in college.
- 17:37We've tried really hard to stay in touch with one another, my wife,
- 17:41my kids. They've been troopers and they've really handled it incredibly well.
- 17:47And how well they've handled it has made it easier for me to just focus
- 17:52on work and make do with the hand we've been dealt. Unquote. Anyway,
- 17:56So as you just talked about West that's a lot of personal impacts.
- 18:00Well, and you know, as we select astronauts, as we think about
- 18:03colonizing the Moon and going off to Mars and all these incredible adventures as many
- 18:10generations of sci fi movies have portrayed, there are human impacts. And I
- 18:15think it's very interesting to hear Frank's words and think about the human impacts of
- 18:21long duration spaceflight. So Jill, my wife from Australia, has regular calls
- 18:27with her family skype calls where they chat and or FaceTime or whatever, and
- 18:33they talk, and she was talking weekly and it's a weekly call that she
- 18:38makes sure that she has with family. Anybody who asks about her accent.
- 18:41By the way, you just need to talk to her the day after one
- 18:44of those calls and you hear it kind of recharged. That's when it gets
- 18:47a little bit more Ozzie in the in the tank, I guess. But
- 18:52anyway, she was talking with my father in law over the weekend, and
- 18:57this was Sunday evening and as soon as I walked by the camera and he
- 19:03said hi to me, immediately, Hey tell me about Osirius Rex. So
- 19:08this is a big story, and that's when you know the magnitude of the
- 19:11story is it's they're talking about it around the world. So it really is
- 19:18an incredible story. And as you said at the top of the show,
- 19:22it was kind of hard to decide this week who was going to be the
- 19:25leadoff hitter, right because the Frank Rubio accomplishment, it really is amazing.
- 19:30But returning an eight ounce cup worth of material basically from the surface of a
- 19:38primortially formed asteroid, what does primortially formed mean? That means it was formed
- 19:45at the time that the Solar System came together. Friends, It's like a
- 19:48time capsule from the formation of the Sun and the planets that has been undisturbed
- 19:53until the spacecraft touchdown on surface. So the spacecraft was able to do that,
- 20:00grab up that sample, turn around, fly home, and like a
- 20:06newspaper boy on a fast bicycle, tossing that newspaper to land it right there
- 20:11on the welcome matt of your front door. That's how the spacecraft, as
- 20:17it was traveling at over twenty thousand miles an hour, perfectly timed the drop
- 20:23of its sample return capsule the SRC and nail it right on target in a
- 20:32test area in the Utah Desert. Almost said in Nevada, because I'm just
- 20:37so used to test sites in the Nevada Desert. But it was Utah,
- 20:40so an area fifty one like area, but in Utah nailed the landing.
- 20:45Oh my goodness. What an incredible accomplishment for the Osiris REX team, their
- 20:52spacecraft, all of their planning, all of their programming, all of their
- 20:56automation. Hats off to Dante Loretta, the principal investigator and all of the
- 21:03folks who worked on Osiris REX. What an amazing achievement. And you mentioned
- 21:07getting it on Earth on time, and my father and all pointed out that
- 21:11it was actually maybe two minutes early, and he's just fascinated at how accurate
- 21:17they could be the fact that it could be within two minutes they had this
- 21:19thing planned. It really is an absolute marvel of so many different accomplishments.
- 21:26And I mean, that's probably the least significant one is that they timed out
- 21:30getting it back to Earth. They sent basically a machine that was like a
- 21:34mosquito into space to retrieve this sample from an asteroid and then send it back
- 21:42home and timed its delivery to Earth within two minutes. And it was early.
- 21:49Nothing's ever early, right, so maybe the most amazing part about the
- 21:56two minutes is that it would have been even much more close to the correct
- 22:02time to like, the actual correct time a multi year mission would have been
- 22:08almost to the minute had it not been for the prevailing winds over the Utah
- 22:15Desert, something they couldn't have predicted back when they set it all up.
- 22:18All of that time change, all of that uncertainty that led to the two
- 22:23minutes early happened in the last seven minutes of flight. They got some downwind,
- 22:32right, they had some some wind that was blowing the spacecraft down just
- 22:36a little quicker than everybody had anticipated. And so the time that was you
- 22:41know, the delta, shall we say, the difference in time all occurred
- 22:45within just that last small portion of the journey coming back through the Earth's atmosphere,
- 22:52which that is astounding. Had that not, had the atmosphere not played
- 22:56a role, it would have been almost to the second unbelievable. Well,
- 23:03I mean, and it is right, it is absolutely unbelievable. Now,
- 23:06friends, before we get too far, we gotta do a little bit of
- 23:08a hat tip. This is not the first time that sample material has been
- 23:15returned from an asteroid that milestone belongs to the Japanese Space Agency with their High
- 23:21Abusa vehicle, and the High Abusa spacecraft basically did this same thing. It
- 23:26went out to an asteroid, it collected samples, it brought them back to
- 23:30Earth, and it did return them safely to the Earth. So the first
- 23:34sample return mission was done by the Japanese. But that return, they counted
- 23:40the number of grains of material return, right, there was a finite Oh
- 23:45and I guess that they're all finite in a sense, but there was an
- 23:48easily countable number of grains of material in their sample. So this is like,
- 23:52you know, maybe somebody spilled a sugar packet and a few of the
- 23:56sugar grains got out. That's kind of the level that the Japanese vehicle return
- 24:02material from another world Osirius rex. It's a full on eight ounce cup,
- 24:10right, like imagine a small coffee at your favorite coffee store. That kind
- 24:15of level of material. Right, You're not going to sit there and count
- 24:18the individual grains and that kind of a sample and tell us how many grains
- 24:22of material you return from space. It's freaking eight ounces. So anyway,
- 24:26so that it's an amazing achievement and in the Osirius REX team a beautiful thing.
- 24:32Friends. We actually got to go down to the Kennedy Space Center,
- 24:36and when I say we, it was a team of students from Columbus State
- 24:41University staff, never from the Space Science Center. We got to take these
- 24:45folks down and actually see the launch from the press area, and we did
- 24:51a webcast of that event with our students, and those students got to meet
- 24:55scientists who actually worked on the Osiris REX vehicle. So they got to meet
- 25:00people who are part of this mission and part of planning it all out.
- 25:03And the fact that we got to be there see these people at work here,
- 25:08what their expectations were, see the spacecraft launch. We have felt connected
- 25:14with Osiris REX at Space Science Center for its entire multi year mission out to
- 25:18the asteroid Benu. And so the fact that it was successful and has now
- 25:23dropped material and there are samples of the asteroid Benu in possession of the of
- 25:29the folks who handle space material samples at the Johnson Space Center in Houston,
- 25:33Texas. Now it is unbelievable that all of that came together and high five
- 25:38to all of the Osiris REX team. So it's been opened and they're digging
- 25:42around in this canister there, you know, somebody took it out and just
- 25:47open it up and sniffed it right just right up in there, just to
- 25:52see what it smelled like. I mean, I'm not primity to the entire
- 25:56video. You know, maybe that happened. I don't think so, but
- 26:00baby, but there is video now out there of the of the unveiling of
- 26:03this process, and the scientists in the room literally gasped as the sample was
- 26:11unfolded. It was just kind of it's just cool to hear these typically unemotional
- 26:15people have these visceral reactions to what is clearly a fantastic achievement for all humankind.
- 26:22Right, So that's just it's just neat to be part of that moment
- 26:25to hear them do that. They did report, and uniquely, this is
- 26:30the public affairs officer Shaniqua Vereen, who was kind of narrating the unveiling of
- 26:34the sample. She did report that there was black dust and debris on the
- 26:40avionics deck of the canister. So, in other words, there was some
- 26:44dust on the outside of that, but it's still made it back, right,
- 26:48it clung on through all of this stuff. Now, it was sealed
- 26:51inside the spacecraft, but it was not sealed inside the safety container that held
- 26:55the actual samples. So this is interesting that there's even more sampling of this
- 27:00asteroid material than they had anticipated. It was just kind of stuck on the
- 27:03outside of things, so that was kind of a cool thing. All of
- 27:07these steps have been taken now to bring the asteroid sample back to Houston to
- 27:14open it up, go through the process. They had to remove what's called
- 27:18the tag sam it's a portion of the actual vehicle that picked up the sample
- 27:22in the first place. They had to mechanically disconnect all of that. That's
- 27:26all been done. Now there's only one final step in the rest of the
- 27:30unveiling process, and that's the actual removal of the sample from its container.
- 27:36And that's so special, so interesting to so many people like your father in
- 27:41law in another continent, right, so many people around the world. That
- 27:44NASA is actually going to hold a live webcast of that event. They've got
- 27:48it scheduled. It's October the eleventh. It's going to occur at eleven am
- 27:52Eastern daylight time, so you can actually tune in to a live NASA stream
- 27:57and watch them bring these materials that are four and a half billion years old,
- 28:03effectively out of this canister and put them on display. Friends, that's
- 28:10gonna be a great day. I hope you tune into that stream as I
- 28:12will, and then we can all get back together here a native stars and
- 28:17we'll talk about all the fun stuff that we saw coming up. After a
- 28:21quick break, we got some breaking news. Albert Einstein kind of smart.
- 28:26We'll talk about that next. So I've seen these pictures of this guy,
- 28:51kind of crazy hair mustache. Everybody says he's smart, and then it seems
- 28:57like as time goes on, there seems to be more and more confirmations that
- 29:00this guy was way ahead of his time, way ahead of his time.
- 29:06I mean, you know, to borrow the words of another network and say,
- 29:11what if I told you, what if I told you Wes Carol that
- 29:15Einstein was right about something? I don't think that's very much of a surprise.
- 29:19I mean, when somebody says something that Captain Obvious should say, everybody
- 29:22else says, yeah, Einstein, no kidding, as if Einstein's name should
- 29:29be used as some kind of degradation. No, no, friends, Einstein
- 29:33was actually smart. Let's stop using his name that way. It's rather insulting
- 29:37to a very famous person. All right, So here's the idea. Einstein
- 29:41did predict that this material that we know of called anti matter responds to gravity
- 29:51in exactly the same way that matter responds to gravity. So, in other
- 29:56words, even though anti matter has different charge and there are other different properties
- 30:03between matter and their anti matter counterparts, there appears to be no such thing
- 30:11as anti gravity, which only works on anti matter. The big news coming
- 30:18out of cern Over in Europe, which is the Giant Particle Collider, is
- 30:23that anti gravity does not exist and that antimatter responds to gravity just like Einstein
- 30:33said it would. Well, there you go, no kidding, Einstein,
- 30:38I mean there it is. Friends. So he Uh, it's just amazing
- 30:48when when we're at this stage so many years later and I got I'm I'm
- 30:55you have to pardon my knowing exactly when he passed away. So his all
- 31:00these years later, were able to conclude this, this thing that he predicted,
- 31:07this thing that he was able to discern, were able to bring this
- 31:12now all these years later. Uh, And it really is fascinating how far
- 31:17ahead of all of this he was. Yeah, So Einstein passed away in
- 31:22nineteen fifty five, live past all of the all of the World War two
- 31:27and the Manhattan Project, and was actually kind of a conscientious objector you can
- 31:33go see that Barbenheimer film or whatever that is and figure all that stuff out.
- 31:37But anyway, so so the notion is though that Einstein was actually right
- 31:41about a lot of things. Now, he was famously wrong about a couple
- 31:45of things, and and so I don't know if people just think, well,
- 31:49he was wrong about these couple of things. Quantum mechanics was one of
- 31:52those, and the expansion of the universe was the other one. Anyway,
- 31:56so because he was not quite right on those areas which are already quasi outside
- 32:00his field, people just think, well, maybe he's just wrong about all
- 32:05the rest of this stuff too, and this stuf is too fantastic and it's
- 32:07just too weird. Special relativity general relativity do have some very unusual consequences that
- 32:13are attached to them. So when I was a grad student, this is
- 32:16a fun grad student story of the one of the projects that our faculty gave
- 32:22us is when strange letters from unknown people arrived at our physics department with ornate
- 32:30mathematical proofs demonstrating that Einstein was wrong about general relativity. The faculty, instead
- 32:37of responding to them themselves, would simply send those letters down to us grad
- 32:42students and say, hey, this will be fun. Why don't you prove
- 32:46why this guy's wrong? And so proving that someone's wrong is hard, but
- 32:52I knew they were wrong in the first place, because they said, in
- 32:57this proof, you will see that I have clearly demonstrated that Einstein was incorrect
- 33:00about general relativity. And that's really all I needed to read, because I
- 33:05knew the error was just a matter of time after that, because Einstein's been
- 33:09right about general relativity for a long time. However, the good folks at
- 33:14CERN thought they needed to do one more experiment to confirm it. And by
- 33:17the way, it is an experiment that had never been done before. To
- 33:22try to demonstrate the gravitational effects on antimatter, you have to set up some
- 33:28extraordinarily special conditions in order to even be able to test that, and it
- 33:34has to do with isolating antimatter in magnetic fields and then allowing it to be
- 33:38free from those magnetic fields to respond to the force of gravity while not interacting
- 33:44with any kind of normal matter. So, in other words, in an
- 33:46extreme vacuum to be able to test this. That's not an easy setup,
- 33:51friends, which is why it hasn't ever been done before. But the brilliant
- 33:58physicists at CERN have accomplished that experiment, and today that's what we're all tipping
- 34:04our hat too. Not only does it give us an experimental confirmation that anti
- 34:10manner does not respond to anti gravity, it responds to normal gravity. There
- 34:15is probably no such thing as anti gravity, but it also gives us new
- 34:21experimental tools in which to investigate more information about the very intricate and delicate field
- 34:29of particle physics through experimentation, not just through theory. So particle physics is
- 34:35just one of these fields that it's extraordinarily difficult to carry out the confirming experiments
- 34:42necessary to say that yes, we do actually know this because we've done the
- 34:45tests and we've proven all of the theoretical work correct. So hats off,
- 34:50discern way to go. And a lot of that actually was run by professors
- 34:53out of the University of California at Berkeley. There were some of the lead
- 34:57professors on that program, so good jobs all of the all of those folks
- 35:00involved. Let's quickly talk about the Psyche mission because SpaceX getting ready to launch.
- 35:08I guess this will be there first interplanetary mission for the Falcon heavy YEP.
- 35:16So there's a few good stories here. The headline really is that it's
- 35:22next week. We're giving you kind of a preview. We're gonna be watching
- 35:24for the NASA's Psyche asteroid mission. Now, there's a there's an asteroid called
- 35:29Psyche, and so this mission is also called Psyche, so we're gonna have
- 35:32as Psyche visiting Psyche. So there's gonna be a lot of Psyche as we
- 35:37talk about all this. But the spacecraft Psyche is going to visit the asteroid
- 35:40Psyche and launching on October five. At least that's the currently scheduled launch.
- 35:46Remember, there's a looming government shutdown as we record our show, so we're
- 35:52not exactly sure if the government's going to be remaining open till October five.
- 35:57And we're also not sure of what effects government shutdown would have on that impending
- 36:01launch, because they can actually file for a waiver and go ahead and launch
- 36:06the thing anyway. All right, So having said all that, there's a
- 36:08one hundred and seventy mile wide asteroid called Psyche. It's in the main asteroid
- 36:14belt between Mars and Jupiter. But it doesn't look a lot like the other
- 36:17asteroids from there on because it's not really rocky. In fact, it looks
- 36:22I don't mean rocky, babbo, it's not really rocky. So the interesting
- 36:30thing is it appears to be made almost entirely of metals, and most of
- 36:37them would be rare earth metals. So this is from a mineral standpoint,
- 36:44and extraordinarily valuable piece of metal hanging out there, full of all kinds of
- 36:51rare earth materials that we use in oh, I don't know, telecommunications and
- 36:54computing and all kinds of high tech industries back you're on Earth. This will
- 37:00be the first mission to fly out to that chunk of very valuable metal and
- 37:05try to better assess it. It's scheduled to launch next week, pending government
- 37:08shutdowns or not, and it will arrive at that asteroid in twenty twenty nine.
- 37:14So again we're giving you kind of a hint of things to come.
- 37:16We will certainly be talking about this very interesting mission again next week on Made
- 37:21of Stars, and we can start to fill you in on some of the
- 37:23interesting things that this mission is going to carry out government shutdown or no.
- 37:30Music under the Dome is happening next week. Our concert series, Music under
- 37:35the Dome has no ties to the federal government and therefore will be continuing regardless
- 37:40of whether the federal government shuts down or not. However, our online tickets
- 37:45are already sold out all Snap you miss that opportunity, but that's okay.
- 37:51If you're in the area, you can still come down and line up at
- 37:53the door the way we used to do when we try to get Van Halen
- 37:57tickets back in the day and try to get your tickets on the day of
- 38:00the show. Good Love friends. Now we do have a certain limited number
- 38:04of those tickets available. You can come down and check out that concert.
- 38:07Ladies and gentlemen. It's going to be a great concert. It's going to
- 38:10feature some extraordinarily talented musicians from the Schwab School of Music here at Columbi State
- 38:15University and our very own Lance Tankers Lee from the Coca Cola Space Science Center
- 38:22has employed some brand new techniques and animation to create the visuals that are going
- 38:27to be shown on the Dome. It's going to be stunning and spectacular.
- 38:31I've got a chance to sample a little bit of that. However, if
- 38:36you can't get in, you can't get in, So so maybe come down
- 38:38and hang out and see if you can get in, or don't miss out
- 38:43on November's concert tickets because they're already on sale too, and you still have
- 38:49time to get tickets online for the November concert Music under the Dome series here
- 38:53at Columbis State University's Coca Cola Space Science Center. That's not the only thing
- 38:58happening in October. And I know we're gonna be talking more about this as
- 39:00we get closer to it, but it's worth at least mentioning that we do
- 39:06have a partial solar eclipse coming. Yeah, this is just kind of a
- 39:10save the date card. So once again, if you're in a drivable distance
- 39:15to the Coca Cola Space Science Center, or heck, even if you're not,
- 39:19there's gonna be an eclipse over your head on October fourteenth. Friends,
- 39:22if you want to come join us, we're gonna have telescopes set up that
- 39:25day. October fourteenth is a Saturday. It's gonna be here in Columbus about
- 39:30a sixty to sixty five percent eclipse it's not that there's uncertainty in that it
- 39:36depends on the way you measure it. But somewhere larger than half the Sun
- 39:38is going to be covered up by the moon. Heck, if you get
- 39:43out to the desert southwest, you can see the whole thing where it's a
- 39:45total annular eclipse. So an annular eclipse means the moon's just a little farther
- 39:51from the Earth than normal, so it can't cover up the entire disc of
- 39:53the Sun that produces a tremendous ring of fire. So for all of our
- 39:59listeners out there on the western side of the United States, there is the
- 40:01ability for you to drive into the path of what effectively amounts to totality even
- 40:07though it's not going to be total because it's annular. Check out that on
- 40:10NASA dot gov. You can find out the eclipse path there. If you're
- 40:14in the area, come join us, plan on joining us for October fourteenth.
- 40:17Thank you for listening, and we'll do it again next week. Overhead
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