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- 0:00No matter where you are in the continuum of prostate cancer,
- 0:06it's treatment or the contemplation thereof, I want
- 0:09you to never give up. Never give up on vitality.
- 0:13Never give up on living a full, healthy life.
- 0:17My goal for everybody in my practice and for you all
- 0:20listening is a horizontal lifespan.
- 0:23Feeling great, feeling great, feeling great, and then dying
- 0:26quickly. Kind of sad to think about death
- 0:28existentially, but we know it's out there.
- 0:31What most men, what most people fear is the infirmity and the
- 0:36withering. So we're talking now about all
- 0:41aspects of vitality, mind, body, spirit, sexual health in
- 0:45particular. Now for those of you that have
- 0:48already had treatment for the prostate, perhaps the Glen was
- 0:52removed, maybe radiation, maybe you had some other type of
- 0:57localized destructive cryotherapy, haifu, etcetera.
- 1:02They all have a negative impact, potential adverse effect on
- 1:07sexuality. Men will tell me I don't feel
- 1:11the same, something has changed. So the goal is to adapt to the
- 1:17change at the same time trying to overcome it.
- 1:20And there are things you can do regardless of where you are.
- 1:24So I'm going to focus in particular on those of you that
- 1:26have already had treatment with surgery or radiation.
- 1:30Now you know that I am very skeptical about its value.
- 1:34However, I respect the fact that there is no clarity of pathway
- 1:39forward and that many men will choose to get a prostatectomy or
- 1:45have radiation therapy. It's not the wrong decision as
- 1:49long as you make it with open eyes and with good information
- 1:55all the way around, including absence of fear and urgency.
- 2:01All right, So what can you do to maintain sexual vitality?
- 2:07The first part of that is expect to maintain sexual vitality with
- 2:13or without erectile function. Of course, you'd prefer to
- 2:17maintain erectile function. So things that men have done and
- 2:20some of the research can support this.
- 2:22In the preoperative phase, men who were started on daily
- 2:26tadalafil or Cialis. Now in the studies they did 5
- 2:29milligrams. But in practical treatment, most
- 2:33of the clinicians that are practicing andrology or
- 2:36testosterone therapy looking at 20 milligrams a day started
- 2:41preoperatively and continued postoperatively seem to
- 2:45correlate with better outcome regarding erectile vitality and
- 2:50tadalafil and the other PDE 5 drugs like Viagra, etcetera.
- 2:56They don't have any negative effect on the prostate cancer
- 2:59itself. So they're safe to use so long
- 3:01as your doctor agrees. Make sure that you're getting
- 3:04monitored carefully. So that's an important
- 3:07preoperative endeavor or pretreatment.
- 3:11If you're struggling with erections, how about afterward?
- 3:14Now, afterward, if you've had surgery and you're struggling
- 3:18with your erection, it can still be revitalized.
- 3:21I advocate the use of a vacuum. It can be used at the time of
- 3:27sex, so the vacuum can help negative pressure and gorges the
- 3:31penis. You can use a ring at the base,
- 3:34and now there's some erectile quality.
- 3:37However, it can also be used as part of penile rehabilitation.
- 3:42So postoperatively, you want to keep that penis engorged.
- 3:46You do not want us to suffer disuse atrophy.
- 3:50And even when you're not sexually energized, the libido
- 3:54is down, you still want to keep the anatomy healthy.
- 3:57So I advocate the use of a pump as soon as you can, even if it's
- 4:02been months or years, because there are cases of delayed
- 4:06recovery. So getting the tissue to stay
- 4:10healthy, that's an important detail.
- 4:13The PDE drugs can be of some value, although in many cases
- 4:18they're just not sufficient. So we've got an anatomical
- 4:22problem. There's been disruption of the
- 4:24nerve and the blood supply. Maybe the erections are just not
- 4:29functioning, perhaps they never will.
- 4:33We talked before about the value of physical intimacy.
- 4:37Your loved one wants to feel your touch, whether or not
- 4:43you're getting an erection. Do not deprive each other of
- 4:46touch comfort. There are no real supplements
- 4:50that I could recommend that in that are good unto themselves,
- 4:54but there are some used in complement with these drugs.
- 4:57L citrulline, in particular. L citrulline is a supplement
- 5:02that is a precursor to nitric oxide.
- 5:05Nitric oxide helps vasodilate. L citrulline is sometimes
- 5:10described as a supplement. Alternative or complement is a
- 5:14better way to think of it to drugs like sildenafil.
- 5:18You could take doses of 2000 up to 6000.
- 5:22It's also used for folks going to the gym.
- 5:25I take a dose before I hit the gym every morning.
- 5:27Vasodilates get a little bit better muscle pump, so it could
- 5:31also help at times of sexual activity.
- 5:34Couple hours beforehand when you're really stuck and you want
- 5:39to revitalize the erection, the Trimix or alprostedol, another
- 5:45option. These are injectable treatments.
- 5:48Now before you discard the notion, bear in mind the needles
- 5:53are tiny. In fact, I'm going to show you
- 5:54an example of 1. The alprostedol is also known as
- 5:58Caverjet. That's a trade name.
- 6:01It's an injectable prescription drug.
- 6:03It goes in the base of the penis.
- 6:06Think of it as local Viagra. It vasodilates, gives an
- 6:10erection. It gives an erection in the
- 6:13absence of foreplay, in the absence of sexual desire.
- 6:18It is a purely mechanical effect.
- 6:22Now, in some cases, feeling the erection happening can enhance
- 6:27libido because now there's a degree of confidence you don't
- 6:31need foreplay beforehand. You're going into the bedroom
- 6:34not hoping you get an erection, but already starting to feel 1.
- 6:38So folks, here's the needle. You can barely see it.
- 6:41It's about a 31 gauge. These are tuberculin syringes,
- 6:45and the needle typically goes into the base of the penis.
- 6:49So imagine, there we go, imagine my finger, the needle would go
- 6:53into the base right about there. And you do that about 10 minutes
- 6:59before sexual activity works very quickly.
- 7:03It can be prescribed by your doctor.
- 7:06The Alprostedol is a standard prescription drug available at
- 7:10most pharmacies. Trimix, on the other hand, is a
- 7:13blend of three different vasodilating agents that must be
- 7:18compounded for you. The dose can be varied, which is
- 7:22advantageous because you can adjust it according to the need.
- 7:26So that can restore erectile function.
- 7:30But bear in mind erectile function is not the be all, the
- 7:35end all, the only means of sexual satisfaction.
- 7:40If you have a female partner, she wants clitoral stimulation.
- 7:44Men, 15% of women can achieve climax without clitoral
- 7:48stimulation with just penetration.
- 7:50That means the vast majority need that clitoral stimulation,
- 7:54right? So step one, you got to know
- 7:56your anatomy, boys got to find out where the clitoris is.
- 8:00Sometimes you got to talk to your partner to ask them am I in
- 8:04the right spot? Right.
- 8:06If you are, then you can achieve a woman can achieve climax.
- 8:10And unlike unlike we men, after a woman has achieved climax,
- 8:15they remain sexually responsive much more so than men.
- 8:20So if you're contemplating in the bedroom, the order of
- 8:23activity, woman's climax comes first.
- 8:27This is not Hollywood, folks. You're not having a mutual
- 8:29climax all the time. That's quite uncommon.
- 8:34But if a man has a climax first, usually that's the end of the
- 8:37game. And that's not very satisfactory
- 8:40to most partners. So bear that in mind.
- 8:42It's OK to do things in sequence, so the trimix can help
- 8:47with the erections of L citrulline.
- 8:50Good play. In fact, in some cases, with the
- 8:53guidance of your doc, you can combine these things.
- 8:56They can be used together. The greatest risk is extended
- 9:01period of time with an erection called a priapism.
- 9:05That's pretty uncommon, but it can happen.
- 9:08Blood pressure changes on occasion.
- 9:11But what about what about the sex drive?
- 9:14Now things are disrupted doc, I don't think about sex.
- 9:18I have no desire. That's where the non hormonal
- 9:22peptides may be of some assistance.
- 9:25There is an FDA approved drug called Bremlinotide.
- 9:28It's also known as PT141. The PT141 as an FDA approved
- 9:37drug. It's approved for female sexual
- 9:40arousal disorder. It is an injectable.
- 9:43They do have it as a nasal spray, which I do not recommend.
- 9:46It just doesn't work that well as an injectable.
- 9:49It can be prescribed by the doc at a conventional pharmacy and
- 9:53when it's injected it stimulates the part of the brain where sex
- 9:58drive lives. So it enhances libido, desire
- 10:02and then it supports erection and climax.
- 10:06So this can in some cases help to stimulate the lost sex drive
- 10:11component that is a missing piece and that can be effective
- 10:17in cases of post operative loss of libido or radiation loss.
- 10:24How about those of you that may be on androgen deprivation
- 10:28therapy? Now you know how much I dislike
- 10:32that for you men, how much I am concerned about it being
- 10:36utilized too quickly. In particular, if you feel great
- 10:41and your PSA is starting to rise, I recommend being very
- 10:46cautious before you allow treatment that blocks
- 10:51testosterone simply to make the number go down.
- 10:54That's a complex reflection unto itself, but take time.
- 10:59Get information before you let them castrate you.
- 11:03Horrible things happen, but if you're in a circumstance where
- 11:07you are at a point that such treatment is in your best
- 11:11interest for the sake of symptom control, that's a that's a stage
- 11:15at which I would I would support androgen deprivation treatment.
- 11:20Bone pain for metastatic disease, right?
- 11:23There's a clear indication of potential benefit.
- 11:26You can safely use these peptides.
- 11:29They don't affect prostate cancer.
- 11:32They do have some potential side effects and uncommon cases.
- 11:36Low blood pressure, sometimes nausea, but properly monitored
- 11:40it's an option to consider. When injected about 6 hours
- 11:44before sexual activity. Sex drive increases, libido
- 11:48increases, erectile potential can enhance and that can last up
- 11:54to 24 hours and the PT141 can be used up to 8 * a month.
- 12:01There's another peptide called melanotan which is similar in
- 12:05its effect. That drug also has more of a
- 12:09skin tanning impact, a little bit less of the sex enhancing
- 12:13component. But both of these aging can can
- 12:16be used one or the other. Using them in combination is not
- 12:20something I'd recommend unless you have an experienced Dr. or
- 12:24nurse practitioner guiding you through it.
- 12:27So we've got you gentlemen have an ability to restore sexual
- 12:33activity by virtue of Trimix oral medications.
- 12:37Don't forget the pump for penile rehabilitation and shockwave
- 12:44therapy. Low intensity sound wave is an
- 12:48FDA approved device. You want to make sure you get
- 12:50the right kind of equipment. The Shockwave that I'm talking
- 12:54about is an FDA approved device. That's a distinction because
- 12:58there are lots of different pieces of equipment out there.
- 13:01When applied to the penis, it helps stimulate capillary
- 13:05regeneration, new blood vessels, it helps stimulate the
- 13:10tumescence, the erectile cells, the hydraulics, if you will.
- 13:15It helps those to regenerate. Now, in my experience, I've
- 13:20applied this to men at three month intervals.
- 13:23I don't think it needs to be stacked really closely together
- 13:27because it stimulates regeneration and that takes time
- 13:31and it takes several months. And if you do it diligently, my
- 13:35experience has been that men tend to acquire, maintain, and
- 13:40preserve sexual vitality with better erections over time.
- 13:45Things that have not worked that well that you'll read about.
- 13:48I've not been that impressed with stem cell injections and
- 13:52the corpus cavernosum. They're expensive.
- 13:54I think the shockwave is a better play if you're looking at
- 13:57regenerative treatments. I've not been that impressed
- 14:01with with platelet rich plasma or PRP.
- 14:05I think you're better off with Trimix.
- 14:07Less expensive, more reliable. So those are a few things that
- 14:12you can consider doing what it takes.
- 14:14I think most of all is an attitude, a spirit, a desire to
- 14:21be creative, a desire to maintain physical sexual
- 14:25intimacy, and a willingness to explore some of these
- 14:28alternatives. Your urologist may or may not be
- 14:33knowledgeable and comfortable with these, but there are docs
- 14:35out there who are. Typically they operate in the
- 14:38functional medicine space. One of the thing I should
- 14:42mention, penile implants. It's an option for those of you
- 14:48that are in a good stage of recovery, good medical health.
- 14:52It is not an option, generally speaking, for folks who've had
- 14:56radiation therapy because there's too much tissue damage.
- 15:00One of the many reasons I don't like radiation therapy, besides
- 15:04the fact that it doesn't work that great, but it leaves
- 15:07lasting lingering delayed tissue damage throughout the area.
- 15:12So I've had patients very satisfied with penile implants.
- 15:17You must go to somebody highly proficient.
- 15:21Go to a surgeon who does this all the time, not a doc who does
- 15:26it on occasion. The reservoir is in the scrotum
- 15:29so that the hydraulic is in the in the penis itself.
- 15:33And when having foreplay, the penis can be gradually inflated
- 15:38in a very natural manner. So it's really not as mechanical
- 15:42as the old ones used to be, or as it may seem, at least at face
- 15:46value. Other things you should
- 15:49contemplate that'll help your sex drive and erections.
- 15:52Be careful of drugs that you're taking for other reasons.
- 15:56Antidepressants are #1 libido and erectile killers.
- 16:02Now, sometimes postoperatively or through the course of this,
- 16:05depression can occur and drugs like Prozac or like Lexapro or
- 16:11others can be can be prescribed. They can add value, but they're
- 16:16going to kill in many cases, sex drive and knockout erection.
- 16:21They can cause fatigue and they can cause weight gain.
- 16:24So as you've become mentally adjusted to your new condition,
- 16:29talk to your doc about coming off of these agents.
- 16:32I like to do that concurrent with the other libido enhancing
- 16:36endeavors. The drugs that can be used
- 16:40without disrupting sexual vitality.
- 16:43Wellbutrin and Bupropion is 1 to consider, right?
- 16:46I mean, losing sexual vitality can be depressing enough.
- 16:50Adding a drug that makes that more of an issue is not
- 16:54necessarily the best path forward.
- 16:57Well, listen, I hope this has been of help to you guys.
- 16:59Remember, there's always hope, there's always a path forward.
- 17:03There's always a chance at recovery and restoring vitality.
- 17:08Keep looking, keep listening, and always stay positive guys.
- 17:12We'll talk soon.