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HHBSO 127: David's Here · He's Hot but Something's Off...

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  OK, I don't think I. Just ruined it.
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  Just shut up until I say hello, David.
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  OK, Hello. And welcome to.
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  He's hot. But something's off,
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  unfortunately. Today with a special guest.
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  Hi, David. Yes, you can talk now.
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  Oh, I heard there was an intro. We were trying, I was trying to
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  get the intro music up and he kept talking, doing.
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  It I didn't, I didn't hear it. It was like a surprise intro,
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  but I said it was the intro. It was coming.
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  Didn't you just hear the music? Just now I did actually.
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  And then I was like, you talked over the intro, OK, Anyways.
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  So if you go back to one of the really early episodes of the
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  podcast, I don't know, episode 5 or 10 or something like that, I
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  used to force David to come on to the podcast every once in a
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  while and. Now you said it's two years, it
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  was a two year pot of versary. Yeah, I think the podcast has
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  been on for about two years. I don't know the exact data of
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  the first one. I would need to look it up but
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  it's been a while since. And what year is it today?
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  2025 and December? Well, someone could watch this
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  in the archives in like 20, you know, 2002 or something, 2000
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  and the future one. And then like, yes, so this is
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  whatever the 6th of December or whatever it is.
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  Yeah, it's gonna go up on. It's gonna go tomorrow on
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  Thursday. OK.
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  And what's? What's the Thursday date?
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  It's the 20th, today's the 10th, OK, I think.
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  I don't have my phone so two weeks till Christmas.
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  Sure. Yeah, No, I just thought I would
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  have David back as a special treat for all of you for the end
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  of the year, I guess. Yeah, we it's, it's it's.
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  Sorry, it's not Thanksgiving so we can be ungrateful today.
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  OK. And it's a new set up.
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  Look, it's a new there's a lights.
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  Well, it's a new set up for you, yes, Because yeah, if you go
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  back and watch the last time that David was on the podcast,
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  that was like 2 years ago. That was in the special audio
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  room. Yeah, that was in my one of my
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  bedrooms where I had the podcasting set up, but the
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  lighting was nowhere near as good.
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  And I do. I didn't have this last time.
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  You did? I gave you headphones.
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  Yeah. Whether?
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  These ones I don't know. I feel weird I'm not used.
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  To it might be a different set of headphones, but I gave you
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  headphones. You had headphones.
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  If you watched that video back, it will show that you were
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  wearing headphones. OK, I'm pretty sure I gave.
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  Oh, I'm pretty sure I gave you. I don't remember.
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  It's a long time ago. Never remember.
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  It was a it was a long time ago. This year's gone by.
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  Actually, two years has gone by so.
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  Far two years has gone by now you're.
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  Like you're like a mega entrepreneur now.
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  Yeah, apparently you are. You're.
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  Like a multiple CEO of like travel.
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  I'm not ACEO, I don't think it's the technical term to be used.
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  I'm a business owner. Business President, President,
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  LLCPTYLTD Whatever. All the all the letters.
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  Yeah, you are right. ABCD.
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  LBTQSP. TYI don't.
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  Know the PTYLTD stuff is I see it everywhere.
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  This is why I think TL. CLLCLLC is a thing.
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  I think This is why my audience likes to have you on the podcast
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  because I usually get positive comments when when I used to
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  have you on the podcast, I think I did get positive comments from
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  that. Something is wrong with you?
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  What something is wrong with? Your audience, OK, What?
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  They're listening right now you just call my audience idiots.
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  I. Did because I'm an idiot.
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  I I it's an unconscious stream of unconsciousness stream of I
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  don't edit. But you edit I I have to edit?
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  He's a master editor, yeah. Well, anyways, because it is
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  year end, I thought it would be kind of fun for us to, you know,
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  talk about some of like the things that have happened with
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  us during this year of 2025 you've.
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  Been like nuts. You've gone, like I said, you're
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  president LLC, you're TLC. You know, are you just saying
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  random letters? I want to sound smart like LLC
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  Pty. You're sounding stupid.
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  Pty Pty Ltd I'm not that shit. You know when people try to
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  sound smart. Is that what it is?
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  It doesn't work. It usually doesn't work.
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  We just use big words. Or because when you say things,
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  it's either when you say stuff like that, acronyms and stuff,
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  it's either you're using it properly or you're not using it
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  properly at all. Like NASA.
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  NASA. Yeah, if you just randomly say
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  NASA in a conversation you'd be like what the fuck?
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  NASA's the Texas space. It's not.
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  Well, it's not just Texas. Wait, am I stupid?
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  It's it's fucking national, bitch.
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  Is it North America Space Agency or something?
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  I don't know what the letter sounds.
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  I hope that's dude, I guess that and hopefully.
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  It's right? I don't know.
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  It has to be. Anyways, why are you talking?
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  About this We'll chat we'll chat GPTB chat GP.
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  I'm going to give you some advice for the rest of the
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  episode. Don't try to sound smart.
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  Hey, I'm I'm. I'm instead of artificial
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  intelligence, I'm real. It's artificial.
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  I'm real unintelligence, but all the.
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  Junk food you eat? You're just artificial.
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  I'm real unintelligence. Yeah, yeah, I'm actually very
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  processed. I don't need anything because he
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  has the diet stuff. Yeah, that's true.
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  You watch what you eat. So listeners of the podcast,
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  like I do a podcast preneur every week.
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  So like, the audience knows what's up with me and.
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  What is this podcast called Just Joey?
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  You still you still don't know the name of the podcast?
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  No. Because there's no, you know,
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  there's two now, 2 that I don't know now.
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  You don't know the names for any of my shit.
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  It's just Joey travel and some it's travel.
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  And it's just Joey Travels. That's the name of the travel
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  agency. But Oh no, but the podcast is
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  like, it's something really generic, like just.
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  Great. Thanks.
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  Gay and travel. It's it's something and
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  something like noun and noun like travel and adventures.
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  It's it is I'm close right? Just.
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  Everything is something and something, bitch.
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  Just it's no, no, it's just Joey, send me something and
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  podcast. But travel's in there too.
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  So just travel, just just Joey travel and something travel and
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  adventures travel and I I don't. Travel and trivia.
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  I don't think you need to, you know?
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  Here's another podcast because that's the that's the one that
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  has information about things. That's correct.
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  Because you're the president of your travel agency.
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  Yikes. OK, well the the audience knows
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  what's been up with me. So since you're here, why don't
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  I give you a chance to talk about some of the highlights
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  that you've had this year? There's there's the.
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  It's the end of the. Year, but you took a number of
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  trips. Oh.
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  Yeah, I didn't actually. I didn't really party this year.
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  You were in. You were in Europe for.
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  Japan. We did Europe and then we did
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  Korea and none of them were party trips.
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  I mean, they were like vacations and you also sometimes.
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  Yeah, Yeah. I mean, I'll talk about Korea
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  because I think our audience might be interesting.
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  You were. That was your last vacation, I
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  guess vacation was. Yep.
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  Seoul, right? Yeah.
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  So that was my first time and it was nice.
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  I I didn't know what to expect. I was expecting different
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  things. Maybe I was racist or whatever,
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  but I was expecting like high rise and high density.
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  I think just in my head. Should I talk closer?
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  Should I talk closer? Oh, because they love they love
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  ASMR. And and I don't know if my
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  audience likes ASMR. ASMRI don't like ASMRI don't
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  like me, Emma. But Soul was cool.
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  Soul was Soul was cool. Why am I?
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  You're talking really good now. I'm just suggesting his mind.
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  So Soul was cool. I for some reason I thought it
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  was like high rise and high density, like allow Hong Kong or
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  like. Hong Kong is very dense.
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  And Japan, too, 'cause they're my own.
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  Yeah, yeah, they were mine. Sources of reference.
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  But then I went there and everything is like, big.
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  I knew it was going to be modern, but everything was being
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  cool. Everyone there has, like, your
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  skin, like glass, Dewey skin. As as.
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  Yeah, it's kind of an easy thing.
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  Skin, I think it's new Korean too.
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  Their their skin care stuff is they all look like photoshopped
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  or like porcelain and they're all like super white, super
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  white because white is like white is right over there, but
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  it's like everything's brightening.
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  So you just be careful and like that.
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  Nothing is nothing is brightening but they because
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  white is like a sign of on a prestige or whatever it is.
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  Right. Yeah, Well, in, in a lot of
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  Asian culture in, in, in Western culture, people like to have a
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  tan to like look better or whatever.
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  But in a lot of Asian cultures, the opposite is true.
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  Yeah, because like the the jungle Asians work in the field
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  and the fancy Asians work in an office or something.
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  So it's like the SE Asians seem to be like racially inferior.
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  You guys don't know David's also a comedian.
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  No, I'm. I'm also a jungle Asian, so.
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  But this is this is the term from Ali Wong's special.
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  Everyone knows fancy Asian, jungle Asian.
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  And yes, I happen to be I love mega jungly mega jungle.
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  Yeah, her first special was great.
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  Yeah, I'm mega jungle. So like what Southeast Asia like
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  middle, Middle East, Vietnamese, Cambodian, Filipinos, they seem
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  to be like jungle. Anyways, I own the jungle.
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  It's like it's it's people like love my skin colour in a in a in
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  a non race. How weird's that?
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  Some people mention Oh you're you're, you're coloured all the
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  time. Well, The thing is, like in in
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  western cultures, it's usually valued for people to have like
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  darker, like to look like you have a tan all the time.
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  Yes, Tan. So like in Western cultures,
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  it's kind of, you know, people do in America for example,
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  people spend so much money on like tanning and spray tans and
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  tanning beds and like just to have colour on their.
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  Actually, and you, you told me I think ages ago where I was like,
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  OK, I don't know shit about skin care.
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  Like, what are the one of the things?
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  And you're like, sunscreen is like your number one.
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  Yeah. Like you would tell your younger
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  self, right? Like, yes, kids, you don't
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  realize it, but then you grow older.
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  That's one of the fastest aging things.
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  Yeah. I mean, it accelerates aging on
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  your skin the most like in terms of like a single factor that,
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  you know, causes your skin to age more than it naturally would
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  would be, you know, like lots of UV exposure.
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  I mean, we're all, we're all getting older, everyone's
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  getting older. It's fine.
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  I don't think it's, I think, but I just think if you, if that's
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  really important to you, just stand next to an older person
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  and you look. Younger.
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  Well, there's not always. Well, we can't always stand next
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  to Jay. Jay isn't always with us when we
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  travel. You know, he's large.
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  Jay's one of our good friends. He is large enough that you can
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  sort of be. But we we we look thin and young
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  when we stand next to Jay. I mean, everyone does, I mean.
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  But we look a little more assume, but he doesn't dress up,
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  so it's not like we look more poor next to him.
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  So he's great to stand next to for photos.
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  I mean, to be fair, I mean, I think we have a, I mean, we do
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  have the obsession with the body thing, but it's, I guess we have
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  like fit privilege. We work for it mostly, but it,
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  it, there is a difference. You do.
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  We never get through life in gay culture having fit privilege.
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  We were just talking about this earlier today randomly, like we
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  work out just to look hot. It's our main.
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  Yeah, I don't want to be healthy.
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  Yeah, it's our. It's the main reason I mean.
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  I I don't eat, but people eat to be to look hot and I don't.
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  I eat to be happy. I mean, yeah, that's so they eat
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  according to like, their fitness goals, basically.
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  Yeah, but my goal is to get to fit fit pizza in my mouth.
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  Yeah. I was looking at pizza today and
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  I didn't, I didn't beat my. You could have.
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  You could have pizza today. Oh yeah, I've got a pizza any
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  day. Fuck yeah.
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  I wonder, like the chocolate pizza, What?
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  It's like a dough with like Nutella base and you add like
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  mini marshmallows, cornflakes, white chocolate is.
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  This a thing? If I fucking made it a thing, I
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  was. I grew up in chocolate pizza.
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  No, but it it is. It's chocolate pizza is actually
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  a thing. Dessert pizza is a thing.
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  Dessert. Dessert pizza.
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  It's normally like Nutella and strawberries and bananas.
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  So OK, if it's so, did they serve it cold?
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  No, it's hot. It's like a pizza base.
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  It it's so it's actual pizza dough, yes.
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  So like Nutella and the crust? No, no, no.
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  So the. Nutella is crust Nutella stuff.
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  No, no, no. Nutella is doctor tomato sauce
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  base. Replace tomato sauce with
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  Nutella. Or chocolate.
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  OK, OK, OK. Yep.
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  And then what is? With topping with.
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  Strawberries, cornflakes, bananas, mini marshmallows.
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  So it's like the things you would get in like a sweet crepe
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  but in pizza form, but just like savoury crepes and sweet crepes.
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  Is that kind of sort of? Make a Make America crepe again.
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  Is it good? Hello, do you like Nutella?
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  Do you have it with ice cream? I have it.
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  Not really because it melts, but I have had it with ice cream
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  anyways. Nutella is superior, so do
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  anything with Nutella you do love.
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  Nutella. Yeah, Nutella.
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  One time I was in AI was in Bangkok, one of my solo trips
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  there, and I was just at the grocery store to buy like, I
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  don't know, poisoning powder or something.
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  And they had a whole section of Nutella stuff, and I took a
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  photo and sent it to you. Yeah, and I still remember like
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  when I was in Italy, it's they had the Ferrero stand because
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  everything's Ferrero and that is weird other because Kinder is
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  also part of the Ferrero. Yes, but then they have the the
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  chocolate, the anything. Ferrero is like fuck to buy
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  chocolate, give me Ferrero and I'm happy Yeah, because to buy
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  chocolate I. Used to eat those like fur
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  brochet, whatever things when I was a kid.
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  They're the best. When I was a kid, I used.
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  To eat and Oh my God, you like as a kid you thought it was like
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  the most expensive thing ever and you're like, you think it's.
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  Just like wrapped in it's gold. It's like wrapped in this gold
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  foil. It's not actually gold.
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  It's gold coloured. I'm.
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  Sure. Don't they like fake it nowadays
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  with like gold leaf? Isn't that a like they make
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  things fancy. Like here's a $75 fucking piece
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  of. It's gone.
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  It's like a little decoration of like a garnish, but apparently
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  it's actual gold. Like when I watch sometimes
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  baking shows, they'll be like, oh, they're gonna put some gold
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  on some stuff. Yeah, it's baking.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's my career experience.
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  But then yeah, cuz everyone has the skin care is crazy.
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  I'm sure it's like a trip beyond the Seoul.
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  And Seoul that you saw. But The thing is, like you, I
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  mean, when I went to Seoul, it was like I didn't really go and
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  explore, but even just with a little bit of walk in that I did
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  in the middle of Seoul, it was like there were beauty cosmetic
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  places all everywhere. Like in terms of like cosmetic
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  surgery places like everywhere. Oh yeah, because it's massive
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  over there. But I guess I was in like
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  Gangnam like so in that district, it's probably more so.
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  I mean, I visited Gangnam. We were.
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  I was in. I happened to be staying like
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  that's where the hotel was. But actually.
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  But isn't, didn't, isn't. That the.
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  Inspiration for your skin care line that you launched as well.
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  I mean, definitely when I was, they already know that I
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  launched it. You don't need.
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  You don't need to plug it, no. But it was I mean, but it but
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  it's I'm just always trying to do hair plug plug insurance.
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  I mean, I trust me, I plug. Segways, Segways.
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  Yeah, definitely. I mean, it's it's it's an
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  inspiration. Yes, Correct.
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  Correct. Yeah.
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  So you're like if you want to look like that.
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  Well. Well, not really, but because
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  yours is just like wash my face and put.
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  Gee, thanks, I don't. Know, I don't know.
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  I thought I learned stuff about that there.
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  Everything is like salmon sperm in the face, just like the
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  salmon sperm. They have a lot of, they have a
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  lot of different procedures. Oh my God, that.
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  You could get. And then yeah, just the wording
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  is just, it's like another language.
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  So I'm like. OK, whatever, it is another
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  language. And they're like, they're like,
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  they're basically telling me your paws are fucking massive.
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  I'm like, OK, thanks. I mean you're it makes your
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  pores help. Me, I'm poor, but I mean my
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  pores are always massive, but I'm like in Korea they're like
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  fucking volcano but one. Of The thing is that everybody's
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  pores, like you can't really change the size of your pores
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  really. Yeah, unless you're a fucking
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  Korean and probably do whatever the.
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  Fuck they do. No, like scientifically like you
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  can't really actually like change the size of your pores
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  you. Burn them off or something.
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  I mean, you can do extractions and get stuff out of your pores
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  so that they look smaller. Because I fucking own a skin
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  care pin and I know that I know what I'm talking about.
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  So you're like a skin president. What's the What's your title at
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  your skin care? I'm the only person at that
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  company. I'm, I'm everything.
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  I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm the janitor and the owner.
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  Like I'm everything. You're CF Yeah.
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  Well, you're Everything Everywhere, yes.
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  Yeah, Chief, everything, Officer.
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  Oh, Chief, Yeah, You're chief. You're mega chief.
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  Yeah. Great.
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  Then you also go to Europe. Yep, we did Germany right.
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  Yep, we did. Where the fuck do we go?
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  Austria. Berlin.
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  Oh yes? Well, we do.
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  Burling ham. Burling, Hamburg.
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  Austria. Hungary.
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  Budapest, some of those are countries and some of those are
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  cities, I feel Anyways, it's. Funny.
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  I we we won't. This is not a pop quiz.
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  You can say whatever you want. We're not in school anymore.
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  We can't get a failing grade. Well, I should do.
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  My geography, you know, geography, I don't know any.
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  I don't know geography. What I I don't, I really don't,
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  I don't know. I I know like some of the US
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  Canadian geography, but I've lived in those countries, but
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  like I don't know where any of the European you.
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  Unless Formula One went there. But even then I don't Formula
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  One goes to a lot of places in Europe.
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  Like I don't know where that place is on like a map.
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  Yeah, I don't know anything and they somehow expect if.
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  You said like, OK, like if you say like, if you like Spain and
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  then you ask me about. OK, what?
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  What other countries share a border with Spain, like our
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  neighbors, just me, Like, I don't know.
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  Oh. I don't know either.
• 16:55
  Well, The thing is, but they expect you to know.
• 16:57
  Like they expect me to know because I'm a flight attendant.
• 16:59
  So they'll. Like, wait, wait, wait.
• 17:00
  In what situation would they expect you to know as a flight
• 17:04
  attendant or the the fucking Atlas in the world?
• 17:06
  OK, OK. Yeah.
• 17:07
  Ding Dong. Hello.
• 17:09
  How can I help you? Can you tell me what mountain
• 17:12
  range we're flying in? What is that over?
• 17:14
  There is that. Is that real?
• 17:15
  You get questions like that. Yes.
• 17:18
  What the fuck cares? So old lady fucking Karen from
• 17:20
  the north, I don't fucking know. She's just like, I wonder, is
• 17:23
  that mousing? Right over there like.
• 17:24
  I don't look out of the window I'm working.
• 17:28
  Have you? What, do you just made-up
• 17:29
  something? I'm like, I'm a flight
• 17:30
  attendant. I'm not the fucking smartest
• 17:32
  thing in the room. I'm dumb as fuck.
• 17:33
  Like, I don't know, I'm sorry, I'm working.
• 17:35
  What? What teal coffee do you want,
• 17:36
  bitch? Like.
• 17:38
  Do you want chicken or beef? Just chicken or beef and please
• 17:41
  choose the other option because I don't have the first option so
• 17:45
  have nothing. People have some nuts.
• 17:47
  People actually ask that? Yeah.
• 17:49
  OK. I think in my job in like on my
• 17:52
  years, something about stepping onto a plane turns you into a
• 17:56
  different person because they just ask and do.
• 17:58
  Things I guess, like you're in the office, that's your work
• 18:00
  environment. So when you step on a plane,
• 18:02
  it's like, oh, I'm at work. Yeah, but I think people just
• 18:04
  become stupider. Is it their altitude?
• 18:07
  We just said you mentioned this before.
• 18:08
  Dumb, really stupid questions people don't know how to open.
• 18:11
  Laboratory doors, by the way, you know this goes out to the
• 18:13
  whole. Internet, well, you know what?
• 18:14
  This is better than some of those things where you're like,
• 18:16
  oh, real flood attendance explodes this and it's all fake.
• 18:19
  It's like, what the fuck? You know, clickbait stuff, like
• 18:21
  the clickbait stuff. Like I have a whole thing about
• 18:23
  clickbait and certain influencers.
• 18:25
  Yeah, like. They'll say I'll get an
• 18:27
  algorithm thing where it's like, this is the top 10 things that
• 18:30
  flight attendants don't want you to know.
• 18:31
  You know what I hate the most? But the things, the things
• 18:34
  that's like, don't do this before you watch the video.
• 18:37
  I hate titles like that. I don't know.
• 18:40
  It's I hate it when the title is not very descriptive of the
• 18:43
  content. Yeah, I just.
• 18:46
  You can say something like, you know, like top 10 tips for, I
• 18:50
  don't know, like washing your dog or whatever, Like that's
• 18:52
  fine. Yeah.
• 18:53
  It's just. Not real like some of.
• 18:55
  The tips but it's like you won't believe what I.
• 19:00
  Oh yeah, that shit. Yeah, it's just I.
• 19:01
  Kind of like it doesn't describe the content.
• 19:03
  It's super click baity and like that's the stuff.
• 19:06
  Like I don't ever want to show up on my screen and I think.
• 19:10
  It unfortunately, I think it feeds into the mind numbing
• 19:16
  thing that you're just believing what thing is telling you.
• 19:18
  But your phone is very sophisticated now.
• 19:20
  Telling you thing, here's the little inside scoop.
• 19:22
  So for the skin care company, I have a marketing agency and then
• 19:26
  we were talking about getting influencers and also UGC, UCG,
• 19:33
  which is UGC. You can't.
• 19:36
  I can't say ugly. You can't say the C word.
• 19:39
  You can't say the C word, OK, That's like, you know, anyways,
• 19:42
  UGC, UGC is user generated content.
• 19:46
  You know, all those like those things are like TikTok or
• 19:49
  Instagram, whatever. You have, like, some person
• 19:52
  who's probably an influencer, they're just talking about some
• 19:54
  product, OK? You know, those ads were like a
• 19:57
  person sitting in front of their phone.
• 19:59
  And they're like. Yes, they're talking about some
• 20:02
  product. Yeah, it could take a few forms.
• 20:04
  That's UGC. OK, where it looks like a quote
• 20:07
  UN quote regular person, but they're like Hawking some
• 20:10
  products. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 20:11
  But like it comes up as an ad on your feed probably right.
• 20:14
  That's what that's UGC. OK, so me and the marketing
• 20:18
  agency were talking about that and I specifically told her
• 20:24
  those types of video where like it's like some person who
• 20:29
  they're acting super excited. They're looking straight at the
• 20:32
  camera and they're like, oh, I'm using this product and I love
• 20:36
  it. But you know those ones where
• 20:38
  like they look super excited right from the goal.
• 20:39
  Like they're on fucking some on fucking crack cocaine.
• 20:42
  Who the hell is excited unless you're on cocaine?
• 20:44
  But you know, listen to the videos I'm talking about, right?
• 20:46
  I think yes, I think so, because you see them a lot.
• 20:48
  Yeah, exactly. They pop a lot and I
• 20:50
  specifically told the market and she's like, I do not want any of
• 20:52
  that type of videos. But for me that's like the most
• 20:55
  fake type of video you can use to represent my brand.
• 20:59
  But it's like I see we see so many of those and you just know
• 21:02
  because we see so many of them Hawking so many different
• 21:04
  products. You it's very obvious.
• 21:06
  It's some person that's just being paid to like, Hey, make me
• 21:10
  a 22nd tick tock and just like talk of this product here, some
• 21:13
  talking points for me that is like, I don't want that.
• 21:17
  I find those videos, those clips gross.
• 21:20
  Like it doesn't represent my brand.
• 21:22
  It doesn't seem genuine to me. Yeah.
• 21:24
  So it's very specific to them. Like I don't want anything
• 21:27
  that's like. That I would just honestly just
• 21:28
  just rather just fuck me with the ad.
• 21:30
  Don't pretend that it's something else, don't pretend
• 21:31
  that it's entertainment. Just fuck.
• 21:33
  Me with the ad. I can go away or skip it or
• 21:35
  whatever the fuck and then go back to resume my regulation.
• 21:38
  Well, here's also the other thing.
• 21:39
  It's, you know, you know, sometimes an ad just like takes
• 21:44
  over your whole screen or when you're streaming something, you
• 21:47
  get commercials. I think people are used to like
• 21:48
  when you're watching a video on TV or streaming or whatever,
• 21:52
  like we were just watching Netflix and every so often
• 21:55
  there's like a commercial. If you get the board here, if we
• 21:58
  get the board here, I also get the board here.
• 22:00
  So the rich people can skip ads. But I think that's OK.
• 22:04
  Like if I think we're used to the concept of commercials, but
• 22:07
  you're watching a video. Honestly, for the streaming I'm
• 22:08
  like that can be a toilet break. I'm fine.
• 22:10
  I'm actually OK as long as there's not.
• 22:12
  Crazy. I think that's OK, but you know,
• 22:14
  in some other mediums where it's not like a video that you're
• 22:17
  watching and you just get like a full page, like in Grinder,
• 22:19
  sometimes like a full screen ad comes up.
• 22:23
  Full interstitials like that are not effective.
• 22:27
  Yeah. Actually, I think it actually
• 22:29
  gives you a negative. Because when I'm a grinder,
• 22:32
  every time a full screen ad comes up, I know when when
• 22:35
  they're coming now, like I just force quit the ad.
• 22:37
  I didn't even see the ad. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 22:39
  It's like, and I'm sure it costs the people extra to buy those
• 22:43
  full screen ads. Yeah, this is full screen.
• 22:45
  But like I never see what is on it because like the split second
• 22:48
  they pop up I force quit the ad because I don't want to see.
• 22:51
  It I mean, yeah, definitely. And I think yeah, because I
• 22:53
  think it just gives a negative relationship to the ad.
• 22:55
  I mean, I don't know if you're, I don't know, does porn have
• 22:58
  ads? If you're watching porn and some
• 22:59
  giant fucking an ad of, I don't know, freaking in.
• 23:02
  The middle in the middle of a porn you're.
• 23:04
  Just right when you're what a good and.
• 23:06
  What about you're about to jizz that's.
• 23:08
  Something and then you get a photo about a BMW and you're
• 23:11
  like I hate BMWs forever because you fucking stole my nut.
• 23:13
  You took my nut. But, but here's the thing that
• 23:15
  when you're when you're on Pornhub, when they serve the
• 23:17
  app, they serve it at the beginning.
• 23:19
  They don't serve it in the middle.
• 23:21
  It's true, I never get to the middle.
• 23:24
  But The thing is, if you click on a video, sometimes they'll
• 23:27
  have an ad before the video plays.
• 23:29
  Yep, Yep. And that's actually.
• 23:31
  For what? Cuz I get my news from memes and
• 23:35
  sometimes there was a guy who was meme there was some gay porn
• 23:38
  actor there was a meme about cuz he would interrupt and it was a
• 23:41
  really loud ad at a lot of these pornad.com gay or whatever it
• 23:46
  is. So it's really and they're
• 23:47
  really annoying and fake a porn ad and it's like I've.
• 23:51
  Seen those kind of like some of these porn actors should just
• 23:54
  stick to porn and not talk into the.
• 23:56
  Camera. Yeah, the acting is acting is a
• 24:01
  rich. They like they they can barely
• 24:02
  remember the lines. It's so bad, like it's worse
• 24:05
  than me and. I'm no, I get it.
• 24:06
  Oh, my God, You have a leak in that pipe?
• 24:10
  I don't know. Is that a pipe?
• 24:11
  Yeah. I don't know.
• 24:12
  Yeah. It's fucking crazy.
• 24:13
  Yeah. But yeah, but anyways, yeah, so
• 24:16
  when I'm, you know, obviously I've got businesses now that I'm
• 24:19
  trying to advertise, but when I was talking to, you know, like
• 24:23
  this marketing agent, the other thing that I don't put on my
• 24:26
  website is something that, you know, sometimes you go to a
• 24:30
  website and it pops up like, oh, like register for our newsletter
• 24:34
  to get a 10% fuck off. So I explicitly like did not
• 24:38
  configure that for my skin care or company website because I I
• 24:42
  hate those. You're in tech because sometimes
• 24:45
  it they now with cookies it literally bugs you.
• 24:49
  It's like hey you left, you left something in your cart or are
• 24:53
  you looking at it? Are you still looking at it?
• 24:55
  I'm like why the fuck do I need 7 emails about this?
• 24:58
  You've forgotten or like hey are you still looking?
• 25:00
  Are you still interested? So I know something about this.
• 25:03
  I know something about this because it's e-commerce and I'm
• 25:05
  in the e-commerce. Business Now.
• 25:06
  E-commerce president. So The thing is, there's a lot
• 25:09
  of, there's actually a shocking number of people that will add
• 25:12
  something to our cart on a website but then don't complete
• 25:16
  check out. So we call it an.
• 25:18
  So we call it an abandoned cart. On edge shopping, edging.
• 25:22
  Correct. Yeah, correct.
• 25:23
  So a lot of people, I don't actually do that myself, but
• 25:26
  like, in aggregate, a lot of people do that.
• 25:28
  And The thing is, from the seller's point of view, the
• 25:31
  company's point of view is like, OK, we need to get those people
• 25:34
  across the line. And sometimes people will just
• 25:36
  like, actually forget that they've put something in the
• 25:39
  cart because like, they get distracted, like they're cooking
• 25:42
  dinner, like while they're shopping or like their dock
• 25:44
  jumps on them, like whatever it is, right?
• 25:47
  And the reminders are like literally to remind people, hey,
• 25:53
  you added this saying to the car we've saved a car for, You can
• 25:56
  go back to your cart now. That is not the reason I think
• 26:00
  that's there. Well, for some people, money,
• 26:03
  it's like that's at a cost. They're not doing it, dog.
• 26:06
  The goodness of their hearts. No, but but The thing is any for
• 26:08
  profit company is there to make money.
• 26:11
  Yes. Yeah, like 90% of companies are
• 26:14
  for profit companies. Even my company, like I'll tell
• 26:19
  straight up my travel agency is for profit.
• 26:21
  Like I'm there to make money. My skin care company is.
• 26:24
  That's every business. You're like an entrepreneur.
• 26:27
  Entrepreneur. But The thing is, every company
• 26:31
  that's for profit, yeah, they're there to make money.
• 26:33
  That's not a secret, isn't. It non for profits then that
• 26:35
  also make money. The nonprofits like their goal
• 26:38
  is not to make a profit. Like it's in the name that's
• 26:40
  different. A nonprofit is different.
• 26:43
  Like there are different regulations that govern that.
• 26:46
  But you know, for like most companies are for profit
• 26:48
  companies, like they're there to make money.
• 26:50
  Like obviously like it does like I'm obviously want people to buy
• 26:53
  the products from my company. Like so if people are adding
• 26:57
  products to the cart, that already shows that they have
• 27:00
  some intent or desire to possibly buy the products.
• 27:04
  Like why would you add products to a cart if you have no
• 27:06
  intention of buying? OK.
• 27:07
  So I've added it before and then it's like, oh, that takes more
• 27:09
  of the expense than I thought. And then I left it.
• 27:12
  But you know I. Thought it was on sale.
• 27:13
  I mean, that's, that's fine. I'm like, oops, because there's
• 27:15
  also. So that's actually a great use
• 27:17
  case because. I'm helping.
• 27:20
  I'm helping. Discount.
• 27:21
  It's something I already know Fuck.
• 27:23
  So you know for some websites, if the website detects that you
• 27:29
  know, you might, you need like a little extra push to actually
• 27:33
  check your cart out. It might pop up like a discount
• 27:37
  code, yes. Discounts, yes, yeah, yes.
• 27:41
  So my website actually does that too.
• 27:43
  Yeah, it like there's some like there's some there's a system
• 27:46
  that kind of detects OK, if this person, you know, might if, if
• 27:52
  the system detects that, hey, we just popped up a discount code
• 27:56
  for this person, they might be more likely to actually buy
• 27:58
  something that will actually do that.
• 27:59
  I. Mean, yeah, I mean yeah, my
• 28:02
  algorithm would be give me discount.
• 28:04
  That's all. Can I write?
• 28:05
  Can I write the discount code please?
• 28:07
  I mean. Help me.
• 28:10
  Companies have discounts and promos because they were.
• 28:12
  It's an incentive like econ one O 1.
• 28:14
  It's like people respond to incentives.
• 28:15
  That's one of the like one of the rules of E.
• 28:19
  And then they can. People respond to this.
• 28:21
  And they can actually track how many people use it, right?
• 28:24
  We can't track it, but it's like, you know, like there are
• 28:26
  different, there are different promo codes that exist for my
• 28:29
  skin care company and they can pop up or like be obtained in
• 28:32
  different forms. Like you'll be signing for the
• 28:34
  newsletter. Like you'll get a discount code.
• 28:36
  But at least like with the travel like it's not any cost to
• 28:40
  you the. Travel thing is, that's a very
• 28:41
  different business because that's not like e-commerce,
• 28:44
  that's not like selling a product.
• 28:45
  That's a service. I mean, that's a service, yes,
• 28:50
  that's just a service. That's not e-commerce.
• 28:51
  E-commerce is like your typical like ask something to a cart on
• 28:55
  a website and then you check out.
• 28:56
  E concierge or something. What the fuck is?
• 28:58
  That it's just a travel agency, there's no E anything.
• 29:02
  Yeah, but that's different. That's like a commissions based
• 29:06
  business. But listen, it's not a cost to
• 29:08
  the person. It's like, well, I can book
• 29:09
  through you. Yeah.
• 29:10
  And yeah. And like I've had people that
• 29:12
  are prospective customers for the travel HCD that ask like,
• 29:15
  oh, like how do you make the money?
• 29:16
  Because you know, people that don't know about commissions and
• 29:20
  like they don't know about sales, like that's a very
• 29:22
  different structure that they don't know about, right.
• 29:24
  But I'm happy to explain it to them.
• 29:25
  It's like, yeah, like if you are new cruiser and you book with
• 29:28
  me, like Atlantis pays me a Commission.
• 29:32
  Well, I think also it's a curiosity because they're like,
• 29:34
  wait, if, if it's the same price, is there a hidden?
• 29:38
  They're probably asking you like wait, correct?
• 29:39
  Where do I pay? It's yours.
• 29:40
  No, no, no, you don't pay me anything, correct?
• 29:42
  The other, the other, the third party, or whatever.
• 29:44
  Pays, yeah, correct. And that's something I want to
• 29:46
  make more clear in the advertising.
• 29:49
  I mean I'm gonna push more on the advertising for just Joy
• 29:53
  Travels in the new year in 2026, which I think segues for me
• 29:58
  nicely that I've already booked a couple of cruises.
• 30:01
  I'll be on 2 Atlantis cruises next year, so David and I will
• 30:07
  both be on Symphony in February. Yes.
• 30:13
  She was like, you looked at me like maybe you didn't want
• 30:15
  people to. Know that no, no, no, no, no,
• 30:16
  no, no. I forgot because I know you're
• 30:18
  doing the other one and I'm not on the other one.
• 30:19
  You're not. On the other one and I just.
• 30:20
  Forgot what Symphony was because.
• 30:22
  The February was the big one. The big one.
• 30:23
  But I. Haven't been on a Symphony?
• 30:24
  Before the party cruise. But I haven't been on.
• 30:26
  A Symphony. So we're going to be going to
• 30:28
  parties. But this is what that sounds
• 30:30
  sketchy. No, we're going to parties, just
• 30:32
  regular party. But this is sounds sketchy.
• 30:33
  I might be going to have a. Party.
• 30:34
  This sounds like illegal or something.
• 30:36
  I might be. Going to some it's not illegal.
• 30:37
  I might be it. Just sounds sketchy.
• 30:39
  This makes. Anything sounds sketchy.
• 30:41
  I'm going to work. Can you?
• 30:42
  Can you? Can you get me?
• 30:44
  I'm going to eat now even. If you don't want to go, can you
• 30:46
  get me some invites for some of The Afters?
• 30:49
  You've been to the. Doctors I don't get, but I
• 30:52
  don't. I'm not the one that gets
• 30:53
  invites. I don't get it.
• 30:55
  Yeah, I don't get invites. How do we get invites?
• 30:56
  Is it Jay or someone else? Wait to the I never get invites
• 30:59
  to the cruise? No.
• 31:01
  To like The Afters on the cruise, The sweet parties.
• 31:03
  Yeah. No, you have to look.
• 31:05
  For it, I don't look for it. I don't look how did we get into
• 31:08
  the ones before. I've never been to 1.
• 31:10
  You went to one? No, we've.
• 31:11
  Both been to sweet parties before.
• 31:16
  Like the pre parties? Wait, no, no, no.
• 31:18
  Like, Oh. Yeah, I think we're thinking of
• 31:20
  different things because you made it very unclear what
• 31:23
  parties were. OK.
• 31:25
  What? I thought you were talking about
• 31:26
  parties if there were orgies, like all parties if there were
• 31:28
  orgies. Which I've never been.
• 31:29
  I'm not talking. About those OK sweet parties is
• 31:32
  yes. Party yes, I both did not
• 31:33
  orgies. Our friends that we know, How
• 31:35
  about the sweets? Yeah, and they're pretty, but
• 31:37
  for this I can go to some of the other ones too, actually.
• 31:40
  Yeah, you. Could I was saying on a recent
• 31:42
  episode that I've been really horny lately but then I'm
• 31:45
  looking forward to the cruise to like have some like activate
• 31:49
  sexual. Awakening.
• 31:51
  Not an awakening. Reawakening.
• 31:54
  That's stuff. The cobwebs.
• 31:56
  It's not that bad. Well your other business you are
• 31:58
  very busy so and successful booked and blessed Airbnb.
• 32:03
  OK, well with that, we're now gonna switch over to our uncut.
• 32:08
  Yeah, well, we're gonna switch over because this is the public
• 32:12
  episode. We're now to continue this
• 32:14
  conversation. We're going to, we're about to
• 32:17
  record our uncut episode of the week, which is only available
• 32:20
  for our Patreon subscribers. So if you wanna see, if you
• 32:23
  wanna see and hear more, David, you can go to my Patreon and all
• 32:27
  my Patreon subscribers are gonna get obviously this week's uncut
• 32:30
  episode and also all the previous uncut episodes.
• 32:33
  But we're gonna go record that now.
• 32:34
  It'll be a continuation. This was sprung on me, so I
• 32:38
  don't OK this doesn't surprise surprise.
• 32:41
  I can't surprise circumcision OK all.
• 32:44
  Right. Bye, David.
• 32:45
  Bye, David.