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Bengals Booth Podcast: Still The One · Bengals Booth Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody on Dan Horde and thanks for downloading
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  Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast. The We're still having fun and
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  Speaker 1: you're still the One addition as I talk to punter
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Hubert as he looks to return for a fourteenth
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  Speaker 1: season and break the franchise record for most games play.
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  Speaker 1: Plus we'll hear why new tight end Hayden Hurst is
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  Speaker 1: so excited to be in Cincinnati. And then something a
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  Speaker 1: little different with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham as we
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  Speaker 1: compare our Mount Rushmoores in a wide variety of categories.
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  Speaker 1: I'll explain later in the pod. The Bengals Booth Podcast
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  Speaker 1: by subscribing wherever you get your podcasts. It's the greatest
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  Speaker 1: thing since Fenway Park. The Reds opened to two game
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  Speaker 1: series at Fenway on Tuesday, and seeing the ballpark on
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  Speaker 1: TV reminded me of why it's one of my favorite
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  Speaker 1: places on Earth. You never forget your first time at
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  Speaker 1: a place like that, right. My first trip to Fenway
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  Speaker 1: was on a high school band trip when I was
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  Speaker 1: in ninth grade. Growing up a sports fanatic near Buffalo,
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  Speaker 1: New York, I couldn't wait to see the Green Monster
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  Speaker 1: in person. Our entire high school band was scheduled to
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  Speaker 1: attend a game against the White Sox on a Friday night. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: it got reined out. I was devastated, but I somehow
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  Speaker 1: convinced our high school band director, mister Popolardo, to allow
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  Speaker 1: me and my buddy Matt Moretti to skip the group
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  Speaker 1: activity on Boston's historic Freedom Trail following day and go
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  Speaker 1: to Fenway on our own for the makeup double header.
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  Speaker 1: I was fourteen years old. Parental supervision was apparently a
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  Speaker 1: little less strict back then. Thus, two ninth graders were
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  Speaker 1: allowed to leave their group on an out of town
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  Speaker 1: band trip to attend a Major League baseball game in
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  Speaker 1: a city they had never been to before. Mister Popolardo
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  Speaker 1: probably would have been reprimanded for insufficient chaperoning in this
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  Speaker 1: day and age, but we hopped in a cab and
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  Speaker 1: headed to Fenway. From what I've read, Roger Clemens and
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  Speaker 1: I apparently had the same experience when we saw Fenway
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  Speaker 1: Park for the first time. We both climbed out of
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  Speaker 1: a taxi in front of a short brick building that
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  Speaker 1: blended into the surrounding neighborhood and said, where's Fenway Park.
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  Speaker 1: In my case, the cabby pointed out the light towers
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  Speaker 1: as proof that he had taken us to the right location.
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  Speaker 1: I've been to Fenway dozen of times since and have
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  Speaker 1: the same sense of awe and wonder every time I
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  Speaker 1: walk through those gates. I've even had the thrill of
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  Speaker 1: broadcasting games from Fenway Park. The broadcast booth high above
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  Speaker 1: home plate is not a great place to see the action.
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  Speaker 1: Imagine trying to describe a baseball game from the Space shuttle,
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  Speaker 1: but it's still magical. You have a magnificent view of
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  Speaker 1: the Green Monster, the sitgo signed, the Pesky Pole, the
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  Speaker 1: skyline of Boston, and that perfectly manicured grass field. So
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  Speaker 1: here's a Dan Horde hot take. Fenway Park is easily
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  Speaker 1: the best ballpark in Major League Baseball, And for those
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  Speaker 1: of you who say, what about Wrigley Field, I've been
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  Speaker 1: to both and it's not even close. Now let's get
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  Speaker 1: to football. It's been nearly a month since Kevin Huber
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  Speaker 1: signed a one year contract extension as he looks to
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  Speaker 1: extend his career to a fourteenth season. Ken Anderson, Ken Riley,
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  Speaker 1: and Reggie Williams are the only players to spend at
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  Speaker 1: least fourteen years in Cincinnati, and in the final game
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  Speaker 1: of last season, Hubert tied Riley for most regular season
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  Speaker 1: games played in a Bengals uniform with two hundred seven.
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  Speaker 1: Before I get to my conversation with Kevin, here's a
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  Speaker 1: quick warning that there's about a two minute stretch where
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  Speaker 1: I get some interference on my microphone. It's not terrible.
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  Speaker 1: You can still hear and understand, Kevin, but I just
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  Speaker 1: wanted to let you know in advance that the noise
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  Speaker 1: goes away after a couple of questions. Now, let's hear
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  Speaker 1: from the Cincinnati native who holds the top spot in
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  Speaker 1: every Bengals career punting category. So I'm watching a replay
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  Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl the other day and I see
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  Speaker 1: the opening coin toss, and you're one of the four
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  Speaker 1: captains out there. I think technically you're the guy that
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  Speaker 1: deferred after the Rams lost the toss. But what was
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  Speaker 1: that moment like to be one of those four guys
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  Speaker 1: standing out there as a Super Bowl is about to
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  Speaker 1: kick off? And it was pretty special. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: at first you kind of, yeah, you figure out who
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  Speaker 1: who's going out there to do the coin tochs. It's
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  Speaker 1: like a normal game, and it's like you you start
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  Speaker 1: you know, looking around and um, taking a moment and
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  Speaker 1: realizing like what you're actually going out there for, and um,
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  Speaker 1: it was just a lot of fun to just to
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  Speaker 1: be out there with the guys and just you know,
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  Speaker 1: after you know, being here for so long, just to
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  Speaker 1: be a part of that was pretty special. You seem
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  Speaker 1: to take tremendous pride in the fact that you're a
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  Speaker 1: Cincinnati guy and you were on a Cincinnati team that
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  Speaker 1: made it. At least that's the way it felt going
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  Speaker 1: up to the Super Bowl. Was that the case, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: it definitely was. Um, you know, there's definitely a different, uh,
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  Speaker 1: different perspective. I feel like that I was able to
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  Speaker 1: have compared to a lot of other guys in my
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  Speaker 1: team just from being here my entire life, you know,
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  Speaker 1: seeing the ups and downs over the years. When I
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  Speaker 1: was growing up them to be a part of it.
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  Speaker 1: To have my entire family here, all my friends here. Um,
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  Speaker 1: it was definitely I think, uh, I definitely took a
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  Speaker 1: lot of pride in that, and um it's something I'll
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  Speaker 1: definitely never forget and uh hopefully I'll get another chance
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  Speaker 1: to that. Perforehim done. Who is there? What friends and
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  Speaker 1: family members made the trip? Uh? Shoot, my entire immediate family, um,
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  Speaker 1: all my siblings, uh, most of the kids, most of
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  Speaker 1: my my nieces and nephews. Um, my wife was out there.
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  Speaker 1: I had several several buddies that came out that made
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  Speaker 1: the trip out. Um. Some flew in and out the
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  Speaker 1: same day. UM say every just much whatever they could
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  Speaker 1: to get out there. Um. So I think all told,
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  Speaker 1: probably you know, probably twenty thirty people, but I at
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  Speaker 1: least that I knew, and several others that just came
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  Speaker 1: out just you know, because there's quite a few people
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  Speaker 1: out there. How long did it hurt? I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that we were stopped pritting because you know,
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  Speaker 1: you feel how close you were, Um, and uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's just something that I think, I think for the
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  Speaker 1: team gives a tremendous a managements the next season because
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  Speaker 1: we have somebody guys that are young and they but
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  Speaker 1: they're hungry and they want that again. They want that
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  Speaker 1: feeling again. So I think, yeah, it's I think it's
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  Speaker 1: always gonna hurt and always gonna be like, you know
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  Speaker 1: what if, But I think it's gonna be a huge
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  Speaker 1: catalyst for us to, you know, get back through this year.
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  Speaker 1: So there was a team party after the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: at Pauli Pavilion. I can only imagine how awesome it
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  Speaker 1: would have been had the outcome been different, but it
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  Speaker 1: was still very nice a celebration of the season, and
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  Speaker 1: at one point you and several of your teammates are
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  Speaker 1: up on the stage with Kid Cutty and it occurred
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  Speaker 1: to me watching from the audience that you're young. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: in football terms, you're referred to as like, oh, he's
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  Speaker 1: thirty six, he's gonna be thirty seven. In real life,
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  Speaker 1: you're a young man. Does this game and being around
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  Speaker 1: these guys keep you feeling young? Absolutely. I think me
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  Speaker 1: and Clark joked about it last year when when we
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  Speaker 1: drafted Evan, and it's me and Clark at thirty six,
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  Speaker 1: thirty seven and Evan at like twenty one. Just getting
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  Speaker 1: his you know, be able to go by by alcohol
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  Speaker 1: for the first time. So yeah, definitely the youth the
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  Speaker 1: team and the youth of Evan, And it definitely keeps
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  Speaker 1: you young. It keeps you, um, slightly immature, I would say,
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  Speaker 1: but uh, in a good way. Um. You know, so
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  Speaker 1: I think it definitely keeps you going. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: you've got guys that that aren't looking at the end
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  Speaker 1: of their career, they're looking at the beginning and wanting
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  Speaker 1: to grow, and you're you're right there with them, just
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  Speaker 1: helping them along the way. And it's it's definitely a fun,
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  Speaker 1: fun part of it. We're chatting with Kevin Huber so
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  Speaker 1: Evan McPherson had these dramatic game winning kicks in the postseason,
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  Speaker 1: fifty two yards at Tennessee, end of the game at
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  Speaker 1: Kansas City, and obviously you're the guy holding. How nerve racking?
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  Speaker 1: Is it for the holder in those situations? Um, I'd
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  Speaker 1: say for a young holder, it's probably more so. But
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  Speaker 1: I you know, I've done it long enough, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: we've had some game winners along the way of my career.
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  Speaker 1: But it's with being with Clark so long, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: definitely like you know, tiers, shoes. It's it's just something
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  Speaker 1: that you don't really think about, which in those moments
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  Speaker 1: I think is a huge benefit because you're not really
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  Speaker 1: thinking about the moment. You're just thinking about get the
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  Speaker 1: ball down so Devin can do his work. So it's
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  Speaker 1: you kind of and well you can almost like shut
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  Speaker 1: everything off and you just kind of just just things
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  Speaker 1: just happened. So it's, um, you know, it's it's not
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  Speaker 1: too nerve wracking. UM, I would say, um when it
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  Speaker 1: comes that just because of the experience and um, the
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  Speaker 1: amount of reps, I mean, park about together. The day
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  Speaker 1: that you resigned, I had a speaking engagement with some
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  Speaker 1: Bengals fans and I said, well, good news, Kevin Huber
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  Speaker 1: has resigned as the Bengals holder. Now that they've improved
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  Speaker 1: the offensive line, they're not going to be punting this
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  Speaker 1: year anyway, which got a good laugh. But is holding
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  Speaker 1: fifty percent of the job forty percent of the job,
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  Speaker 1: how do you think of it? Um, you know, comparatively,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I've had you coaches, I had you know,
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  Speaker 1: Coach Lewis and and and coach Taylor. Um, I think
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  Speaker 1: under coach Lewis when we were a huge defensive amount
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  Speaker 1: of team. I think hunting um was probably more important
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  Speaker 1: because we did a lot of a lot of We
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  Speaker 1: harped a lot on you know, winning the field position
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  Speaker 1: battle um, you know, winning games division game, you know
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  Speaker 1: nine to six where it's a couple of field goals
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  Speaker 1: where there's not a lot of scoring, but it's just
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  Speaker 1: you just keep pinning them back and enforcement of bad situations.
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  Speaker 1: But now with with coach Taylor and you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: offense and let's see how many points you can score.
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  Speaker 1: And then add and Evan whose range is something that
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  Speaker 1: we've never had before. You know, we've just got to
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  Speaker 1: get across midfield. So I think the holding aspects is
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  Speaker 1: definitely probably tipped more on the sixty percent side. And
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  Speaker 1: then the punning part is just get good hits and
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  Speaker 1: get yourself in the best best situation for that particular
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  Speaker 1: punt and just kind of just don't screw up. So
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  Speaker 1: I think holding has definitely the biggest u part of
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  Speaker 1: my job right now. So you resigned right after the draft,
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  Speaker 1: kind I think many of us assume, well, the Bengals
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  Speaker 1: are waiting to see what happens in the draft, and
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  Speaker 1: it's it turned out you were the one that was waiting. Correct,
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  Speaker 1: there was an offer on the table, but you wanted
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  Speaker 1: to see what transpired. Yeah. We had communications back and forth,
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  Speaker 1: you know, leading after the draft five for like a
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  Speaker 1: month or so. UM. But I you know, knowing, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just talk to my agent, knowing that there
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  Speaker 1: were uh was more of a punt heavy UM incoming class.
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  Speaker 1: UM been normal. UM. And you know I'm not dumb.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not being the punter for the next sixty years.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's gonna happen where at some point I'm not
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  Speaker 1: the punter. UM. And knowing that there was you know,
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  Speaker 1: more punters and you know, the opportunity for them the
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  Speaker 1: good one. UM. You know, I wanted to see. I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to sit back and see what uh what transpired
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  Speaker 1: and draft and um just because if they drafted when
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  Speaker 1: I totally get it, it's you know, it's um, it's
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  Speaker 1: just part of the job that we live in. And UM, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to see what we're going on. UM. And
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  Speaker 1: UM I feel like if if they drapped someone, because
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  Speaker 1: when I got drafted, they cut the other guys in
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  Speaker 1: the team. So UM, I didn't want to put myself
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  Speaker 1: in a situation where I would be almost trapped if
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  Speaker 1: they drafted someone that they were going to make them part.
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  Speaker 1: So Drew Chrisman is here. He was on the practice
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  Speaker 1: squad off and on for much of last year, so
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  Speaker 1: they must have seen something in him they liked. Is
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  Speaker 1: this training camp battle and he different from anyone that
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  Speaker 1: you've been through in the past, considering that you will
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  Speaker 1: be thirty seven when the season begins, well, considering that,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I've really ever had a quote unquote
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  Speaker 1: training camp battle. We've had some guys in, but they're
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  Speaker 1: more combo guys that were more or less taking some
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  Speaker 1: reps off the kickers and helping out with kickoffs and
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  Speaker 1: stuff like that. So yeah, I think this is gonna
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  Speaker 1: be definitely different. And you know, I got my work
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  Speaker 1: cut out from me. I'm definitely getting older quote unquote
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  Speaker 1: in terms of football years. But you know, Drew does
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  Speaker 1: a good job. He's got he's got a big leg
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  Speaker 1: and it's a really nice ball. But I know that
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  Speaker 1: if I just do what I can do and you know,
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  Speaker 1: just stick to you know, not try to you know,
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  Speaker 1: out kick him, just do my job and be consistent
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  Speaker 1: and put the ball needs to be put, and then
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  Speaker 1: you know the holding part. I feel, you know, very
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  Speaker 1: confident and so as long as I do what I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna do, I should be fine. This is audio, not video.
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  Speaker 1: But when you said I'm getting older, you did air
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  Speaker 1: quotes when you said the word older. Yeah, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean because I don't. I feel like I'm very old.
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  Speaker 1: But I know it's viewed in the football world. Is
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  Speaker 1: thirty six is like, oh my gosh, he's he's done,
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  Speaker 1: He's old. He's But I don't feel like that. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I'm you know, I feel like I'm sitting
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  Speaker 1: at Mobile just well now as I did five six
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  Speaker 1: years ago. So I don't think the age is an
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  Speaker 1: issue for me as far as losing leg strength. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: age is just a age, is just a number. You're
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  Speaker 1: tied with Ken Riley for career games played in a
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  Speaker 1: Bengals uniform. That's a regular season record. Is being alone
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  Speaker 1: on the top of that mountain a big deal to you? Definitely?
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  Speaker 1: I think that'd be a pretty awesome, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: record to hold. And at the same time, I can't
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  Speaker 1: let Clark have that instead of me. So I need
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  Speaker 1: to make sure I make the team and get that
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  Speaker 1: record and keep Clark off the list. Really appreciate your time.
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  Speaker 1: Best of luck this season. Thanks so much. I appreciate
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  Speaker 1: all Right, here's a trivia question for you the next
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  Speaker 1: time you're hanging out with a Bengals fan. Who is
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  Speaker 1: the last person to punt for the Bengals other than
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Huber. The answer Romanian born Zoltan Mesco, who punted
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  Speaker 1: in the playoff laws to the Chargers in January of
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  Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, when Huber was out with a broken jaw.
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  Speaker 1: We turn from the longest tenured Bengal and Kevin Huber
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  Speaker 1: to a newcomer, tight end Hayden Hurst, who spent two
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  Speaker 1: years in Baltimore and two years in Atlanta before signing
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  Speaker 1: a one year free agent deal with the Bengals to
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  Speaker 1: replace c j Uzama. He spoke with reporters in front
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  Speaker 1: of his locker on Tuesday. Yeah, it's just awesome being around,
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  Speaker 1: you know, an organization like this that was in the
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl last year, because they've set a standard, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and it's fun coming in as the new guy. I
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  Speaker 1: get to kind of reinvent myself and live up to
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  Speaker 1: that standards. So it's been fun. Who has helped you
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  Speaker 1: the most with feeling like you're a Bengal, like you've
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  Speaker 1: earned your stripes. Really, everybody on the offense is pretty helpful.
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  Speaker 1: You know. James is an awesome tight end coach. It's
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  Speaker 1: nice having a guy like that in our room, just
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  Speaker 1: level headed and helps me, you know, maintain focus and
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  Speaker 1: stuff like that, and just learning the playbook and things.
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  Speaker 1: Joe has been awesome, Brandon has been awesome to helped
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  Speaker 1: me learn stuff, to Drew Mitch. So everybody's really you know,
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  Speaker 1: welcome me with open arms. It's been nice. Let this
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  Speaker 1: phase help you and Joe develop a rapport and knowing
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  Speaker 1: each other. Oh, it's incredible. It's incredibly helpful. Just like
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  Speaker 1: today we're going over stuff just how he wants things
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  Speaker 1: to run. And I went up and told him, I said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm all ears. You know, whatever you need me to do,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I'm here to do. He's the real deal,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he captains the ship and you know, like
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  Speaker 1: like I said, whatever coverage he sees, you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: checking into certain things. So as a professional, it just
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  Speaker 1: helps me be on my p's and q's because I know,
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  Speaker 1: I got to know the ins and outs of that playbook.
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  Speaker 1: The more that I know and the more that I
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  Speaker 1: can do, the more I'll just be, you know, available
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  Speaker 1: and be able to be on the field. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I just this is my fifth year and my fifth
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  Speaker 1: offense that I've had to learn, So it's it's fun,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, it's nothing new to me. Just got
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  Speaker 1: to go in and study and learn stuff. When you signed,
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  Speaker 1: it seemed like the opportunity slash need at the position
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  Speaker 1: really excited you. Now that you're here and you see
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  Speaker 1: the guys, has that been reinforced even more. Oh, it's
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  Speaker 1: a great group. You know I've been in I've been
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  Speaker 1: lucky and blessed to be in some pretty good groups
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL. These guys are awesome. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of all hands on deck right now helping
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  Speaker 1: me learn this stuff. I'm excited to get in there
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  Speaker 1: and play with those guys. There's a lot of good
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  Speaker 1: athletes in our room, a lot of smart guys. So
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  Speaker 1: it's a good group to be around. Five offenses in
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: five years. Well, what's the hardest part about that? Just
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: getting the rapport with a quarterback. And I think that's
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: what I told Joe today. I said, Hey, man, you know,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: I know I do some things well but I don't
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: have this all figured out. So whatever you need, whatever,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: whatever you want, you know, that's that's what I'm here
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: to do. That's why they signed me. Um, whatever I
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: can do to help this team, help Joe, That's what
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: I'm here to do this year. Watching you practice, it
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: seems like you really get up the field quickly. It's
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: noticeable for a guy your size. Has anybody pointed that
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: out or saying, WHOA? I think this staff finally understands
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: what I'm capable of. It's taken five years, unfortunately, but
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: everything happens for a reason. I think God put me
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: here in Cincinnati for a reason. Like I said, you know,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do my job, buckled down, learn this playbook,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: and just work my ass off. That's all I can do.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Maybe you did a lot of research about, you know what,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: where you wanted to sign and why, how was it
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: matched up with your experience now that you're in it,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: I made the right choice. Just I mean, I think
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: we all know what Nine's capable of. I mean, he's
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: incredible and he's a professional. And like I said, it
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: was good for me being in Atlanta because Matt was
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: that way, you know, he's a professional. You knew what
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: he was going to have every single day, So it
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: really raised the standard of what you had to do,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: your knowledge of the game, your knowledge of the playbook.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: I love it, you know because, like I said, there's
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: an expectation and you know, I have to live up
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: to it. So it's fun. Is that professionalism between the
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: two of those guys, who really stands out is the
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: big similarity one hundred percent. Some guys aren't like that.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Some guys are. You know, he's he's about he's about
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: his business. You know, he's not really when he's in
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: the building, he's not screwing around. You know, he knows
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: what he has to do and he expects you to
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: know what you need to do too. So just watching
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: him on the field from afar, you know, not even
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: being in the same huddle, you know what he's about.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: And when you're in the same huddle and you hear
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: him and it's confidence and what he expects. It's just
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: it reinforces that. It's pretty awesome. Do you think people
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: around the league have any idea what you're capable of? No,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: And I can't wait. It's gonna be very fun. It's
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: like I said, I'm you know, I'm not throwing jabs anywhere,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, it kind of hasn't clicked yet
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: in an offense with me and an offensive coordinator. And
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: you just have to have somebody fall in love with you,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: and it hasn't happened for me yet. And like I said,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: I think I've kind of found home. You get to
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: play both of your former teams. Yeah, smile has already
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: come to your face looking forward to that. I'm already
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: a self motivated guy. There's not really you know, outside
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: stuff that drives me a whole lot. But there's any
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: more fuel to my fire that I needed, I definitely
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: have it. I was a minor league baseball announcer for
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: several years, so we have minor league baseball in common.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: How did that experience, and I know it was tough
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: for you, How did that shape you and help you
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: reach the point you preach? It's made me a hell
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: of a resilient athlete because in high school I just
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: showed up and I was better than everybody. You know.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't have to work hard, I
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: don't have to do this. And then I get into
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: pro baseball and I get my ass kicked a little bit,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: and I was able to kind of, you know, go
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: back to who I am and work myself out of
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: it and get to the NFL. But it's just I'm
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: pretty resilient, you know. You know when I get kicked,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: you know, I scratch and clawback. There's not a whole
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: lot of people that can keep me down. I'm gonna
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: try to scratch and claw my way to the top.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: And you know, luckily I was given this opportunity, and
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it's all going to scratch and claw. If
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: you're not familiar with Hayden hurst pro baseball career, he
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: was a highly touted pitching prospect in the Pirates organization
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: with a ninety five mile an hour fastball when he
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: came down with a yips much like former Big leaguer
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Steve Blasts and rick An Keel, where he completely lost
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: the ability to throw strikes. It was even hard for
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: him to play catch, so he quit baseball, walked on
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: to the football team at South Carolina, and eventually became
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: a first round draft pick by the Ravens. Here's an
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: invitation to grab your yoga matt and join WHO Day
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: On Saturday, June twenty fifth at nine am for Namas
• 19:51
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• 19:55
  Speaker 1: now at Bengals dot com Slash Yoga. It's presented by
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Cottonell in partnership with Kroger and Title Babe Period Supply Bank. Finally,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: time for something a little different with Dave Lapham. You're
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: probably familiar with the concept of sports mount rushmoors basically
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: the top four in any given category. For example, the
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: mount Rushmoor's of NFL quarterbacks might be Tom Brady, Joe Montana,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, and Johnny Unitis. Well, this week, Lap and
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I decided to go mountain climbing. All right, Lap, we
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: are going to cover a wide variety of Bengals related
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Mount rushmoors. These are the top four things in any
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: given category. Let's start with a really obvious one, basically
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: the Mount Rushmore of Bengals. These are the four most
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: impactful individuals in franchise history. Who is on your Mount
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Rushmore of Bengals. I think the Fans did a good
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: job with the Ring of Honor, you know, I mean,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I think all four of those people that were selected
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: for the Ring of Honor huge impacts. Obviously, Paul Brown,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: not just on the Cincinnati Bengals founded the franchise, but
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: in National Football League in general. When you think about
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: inventing the face mask team meetings during the course of
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: the week, going and staying at a hotel even for
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: home games, you know, to stay together as a group
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: and meet as a group before the game. I mean,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: he had so many innovations way back that to this
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: day are part of the normal you know, day to day,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: week to week occurrences in the National Football League. And
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: a guy like Bill Belichick always talks about this is
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: the way Paul Brown did it, and it's still happening
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: in the year, you know, in a decade of twenty twenty.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's crazy when you think about it. So
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I'd have to say he be one of the most
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: impactful people in the National Football League in general, in
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: the history of the league. So he's, uh, he's obviously,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: you know, a huge factor there. Um Ken Amerson called
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: the most important player in franchise history by Mike Brown agreed,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: you know, and and that that speaks volumes so huge
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: impact on the on the organization. For a guy to
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: come out of tiny Augustana in the third round, I
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: think he's like sixty fourth pick of the draft or
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: whatever it was to play like he played for as
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: long as he played, UM and and the way he played,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: and the type of person you know that that he
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: was for all those years as a leader and on
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: and off the football field for the organization. Huge impact
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: on what happened with the Cincinnati Bengals. Um. You know,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Boomris Hiasin has made a massive impact. Not not yet
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: in the Ring of Honor, but a strong candidate to
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: be there very very quickly. But his impact was incredible.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: I think from a just one guy rallying other guys standpoint,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: he's as good as I've ever seen. Everybody just gravitated
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: to that guy. He just had the IT factor CAPITALI,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: capital T. You know, he was dripping in it whatever.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: It is, hard to define describe it, but he had it.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: There's there's no question. You know, so very very very
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: impactful guy there. And you know, obviously you can go
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: through all the Super Bowl quarterbacks Joel Burrow. Look at
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: the impact he's having on this franchise right now. Man,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: I mean at Super Bowl fifty six, it's only the beginning.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: He's just he's in the infancy stages, and his impact
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: was felt on just about every level of the organization
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: anyway that it can be felt. He's he's a football
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: savant and he has the factor as well, that that
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: very intangible thing that it's hard too hard to put
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: your arms around, hard to define, how to how to grasp.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: But you know when guys have it and when they don't,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: and when you have it, you don't want to lose it.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Whatever it is you got. Munio's out there right absolutely,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, Anthony Munos is uh, you know, the impact
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: that he had on the organization is just, you know,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: absolutely mind boggling. He and Max Montoya, the Mexican connection
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: with the common thread between the Super Bowls really Um,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: there were other players that played in both Super Bowls,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: but up front, those guys set the standards, set the tempo,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: set everything. Um and huge impact and obviously Anthony Munos
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: maybe the best human being I've ever known, so in
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: terms of on the field off the field, he is, uh,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: He's the epitome of greatness. UM. Goat is an understatement
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I think for what Anthony Muneos brought to the franchise,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: brought to the city. Um, it's it's just you know,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: pretty very impressive, to say the least. And and Kenny Riley,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: who was another guy played sixteen years in the National
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Football League at the level that he played at um
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: and his he may have been as quiet and as
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: um uh non, Hey look at me, look at me,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: leader I've ever seen in my life. This guy man
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: just led by how he lived his life, led by example,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: led by what he was doing. He wasn't a real
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: vocal guy. He was one of those guys that showed you,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: you know, here's here's how it's supposed to be done,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: here's how you go about it, here's what you do,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: here's what you stay away from, here's what you don't do.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: He was He was unbelievable, not just for defensive backs
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: but for everybody. Just look at Kenny Riley and get
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: a great example of how to prepare in the classroom,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: how to practice, how to take care of yourself, all
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: the things you need to do to be a pro,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: on top of being a phenomenal human being himself. All right,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: you can only have four heads. So the Lapham Bengals
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: mount Rushmore as of now, because you know, Joe Burrow
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: obviously could change things very soon. But Brown, Munio's Anderson,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: and Boomer is that if you've got to pick the fourth,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: it's Boomer. I'd probably yeah, I'd probably do that. The
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: two quarterbacks, you know, just by the nature of the
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: position and what they when they when it works out,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: when it's successful, what they've done to make it that way.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: It's almost like when you have a special quarterback, you're
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: gonna have specials, no doubt. All Right, the Dan Horde, Bengals,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore, I think the first three or no brainers.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: I think Paul Brown, Anthony Munio's, Ken Anderson are those
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: heads are definitely carved in that granite. My fourth, I'd
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: give strong consideration to you, honestly, playing career and broadcasting career,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: you're probably my fifth head right now. But my fourth,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: believe it or not, is Chad Johnson for kind of
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: cultural impact. I mean, obviously a great career ten years
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: with the Bengals, six time Pro Bowl are still the
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: all time leader in franchise history in catches and yards.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: But he made Cincinnattie cool. He was charismatic. You know,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: it's interesting now, how often when we ask these newcomers,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: what did you know about the Bengals as a kid
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: or whatever. What are your memories of the Bengals growing up?
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: They always say, Oh, I love Chad Johnson. Chad Johnson
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: was my guy. So for now Chad gets my fourth
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: head and my Bengals. Mount Rushmore knowing that Joe Burrow,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: if he keeps this up, could and probably hopefully will
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: be eventually the fourth had But at the moment, I've
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: got Chad Johnson, slash Ojo Sinko's handsome face up by
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Matt mount Rushmore can't argue. I mean, that's that's obviously
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: a huge, huge image in persona in Bengals history, There's
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: no question about it. I guess I'm old school in that. Um.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: You know, Paul was part of championships in Cleveland, championships
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, and Kenny Anderson Boomer, they were part of championships,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: not winning the Super Bowl, but AFC championships and Anthony
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: as well, So that that that was a that's a
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: factor in uh in my decision making there, and Chad
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: wasn't not due to Chad's performance, but just didn't work
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: out for him during his career for the football team,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: and a lot of people thought that it could have
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: and should have and they had they had the goods
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: to get it done, but it just didn't didn't work out.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Very very worthy Mount Rushmore pick. All right, we move
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: on to another category, our Mount Rushmore of Bengals play.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: These are individual plays en franchise history that we are
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: carving into that granite. What are your Mount Rushmore Bengals
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: plays I'll never forget as a rookie. In October sixth
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: of nineteen seventy four, my rookie year, Lamar Parish jaw dropping.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: We're playing the Washington Redskins at Riverfront Stadium. We end
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: up beating him twenty eight to seventeen, and Lamar Parish
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: scored two touchdowns, one on special teams, a ninety yard
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: punt return which that dazzled me and everybody in the stadium,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: and then forced fumble. He picks it up and returns
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: of forty seven yards. Another couple moves for another touchdown.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: So he scores two non conventional scores by the same
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: individual and the other two phases of football besides offense,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: defense and special teams. I'm like, oh my god, this
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: dude is unbelievable. And that left a huge impression on
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: me watching Lamar Parish early in my rookie year. Just
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I mean I was dumbfounded by the guy's physical presence
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: and his ability, um you know. Another one was Kenny
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Riley had a pick six against the Cleveland Browns that
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: won the game late. We're you know, t tie football game.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Late in the game nineteen eighty three, my last year
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: with the Bengals. I guess that's why has an impression
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: on me as well as my final year with the
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Bengals and Rattler, who, like I said, I idolized Kenny Riley.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: I mean he was. He was like if there was
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: pillars of the franchise and people that you know, you
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: want to try to emulate how they lived their life
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: and played the game of football. Kenny Riley was one
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: of the ones that I had definitely as a as
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: a foundational building block. And he had that interception off
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Brian Side took it to the house beat the hated
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. I mean I remember I remember that play
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: extremely vividly. Another one that comes to mind Corey Dillon
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: a forty one yard touchdown to break Walter Payton's two
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: in seventy five yards a single rushing record, got Corey
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: two seventy eight. It happened on that forty one yard
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: touchdown against the Denver Broncos, and the Bengals were I
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: don't think they'd won a game up until that matchup
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: against Denver. They're like, oh, in six or something like that,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: I think. And I remember being down on the field
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: before the game and John Tilink, their defensive line coach,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: was out there and Corey came running by, and really
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: you could feel the earth move. Corey Dillon was one
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: of those guys where you could just you could just
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: feel it. You could just feel it happening. And so
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: John Tilling's like his players are just a little bit
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: away from him warming up, and he was talking to
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: a couple of other coaches and Corey runs by, and
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: I was standing a little bit away from everybody watching.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: He's like, looks at Corey, looks at the beginning, goes, hight, boys,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: let's go. We gotta get ready to play. He's like
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: he could he could not believe the force, the power
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: that he felt when Corey Dylan came thundering by him. Uh,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: down on the down on the football field, and I
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: remember feeling that exact same thing. And I remember talking
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: to dick Lebaul about that, and he said, Jimmy Brown,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: our Syracuse guy. He said that you could feel the
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: earth move when when Jimmy Brown ran the football. So
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: I guess those are the four players that kind of
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: stick to my mind, umu, and two of them are
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Lamar Parish in the same game obviously, but that that
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: that game was like at that point I realized these
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: guys are good. I mean, this is another level to watch.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: To watch that and uh, they remember the two old quarterbacks,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: scraggy quarterbacks, Billy Kilmers Sonny Jourgensen. You know, it's like
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: and I'm a snot nos twenty two year old, twenty
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: three year old kid just taking it all in. I mean,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I can remember everything about that that game because of
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: the excellence Lamar. All right, So this is good because
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: my mount rushmore of Bengal's plays four different plays, two
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: for like impact and two for just how spectacular the
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: individual plays were. So the individual spectacular ones Number one
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Jerome Simpson flying somersaults in two eleven as you nailed it,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: you know, at the moment on the broadcast, the Russian
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: judge gives him a ten for the forward somersault. So
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: that was awesome. Second one, Giovanni Bernard's Halloween touchdown Thursday
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: night run against Miami. It was thirty five yards technically,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: but on Sports Center later that night they measured it
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: one hundred one point nine yards because he went sidelined
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: to sideline, he went backward, he went forward. It was
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: a thirty five yard run that lasted sixteen seconds. Typically
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: a thirty five yard run lasts about seven seconds. Just
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: an incredible individual play by Giovanni Bernard. Then for impact
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Stanford Jennings kickoff return touchdown and Super Bowl twenty three.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: It gave the Bengals a Super Bowl lead for the
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: first time ever, ninety three yards, one of the great
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: kick returns in pro football history. And then my final one,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: very recent Germaine Pratt's clinching interception against the Raiders in
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: the playoffs last year, thirty one years of playoff frustration
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: over biggest crowd in Paul Brown Stadium history. That feeling
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: of you know, Catharsis was awesome. So that that right
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: now is at the top of my list for Bengals
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore plays. Yeah, I mean that all all huge plays.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Um It's funny though, I mean all of those plays
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: impactful through the broadcast part of it, you know, experience,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: But I'll tell you there's something about being involved, you know,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: on the field in the game when a guy does
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: something that's like what it just man, it just puts
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: a sledgehammer in print on your mind, you know, it
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: really does. All. Fortunately, over the fifty plus years, the
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Bengals have had a lot of a lot of big
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: plays as you would expect offense, defense, and special teams,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: no doubt. All right, next category our mount Rushmore of
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: most painful Bengals moments. Unfortunately, there have been a few.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: But what is your mount rushmore in that category? Okay, well,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I'll have to go to the two Super Bowls. Well,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: actually you can go. I'm gonna go to all three
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Super Bowls, I guess for three of them. Super Bowl sixteen,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: the goal line stand, I mean, just good. God makes
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: me vomit every time I think about it. And it
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: wasn't just because of the excellence of the forty nine
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Ers defense and they which they were very stout and
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: very good, but God dang it, we made it so
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: easy on them by making mistakes, you know, on three
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: out of the four snaps. And when you do that
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: in that big a game, that big of a moment,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: you can't put yourself on your schedule. I mean, they're
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: good enough to to whip you, and they whipped us
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: because they were good enough to do it, and we
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: helped him. So that ineptitude of not being able to
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: score at the start, you know, cut cut into a
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: twenty point episode at halftime by a touchdown that would
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: have made it twenty to fourteen with oodles of time
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: to go in the game would have been a different
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: football game. But we didn't get it done. So that
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: was still to this day extremely painful, There's no doubt
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: about it. Super Bowl twenty three man Tim Crumry shattering
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: his leg, I mean, Stanley Wilson lapsing into, you know,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: a problem with his addiction issues, Lewis Billips dropping a
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: sure interception pick, any of those all painful moments, you know.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, David Grant played played very good or very
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: fine football game, played very well, I should say, um.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: But Tim Crombry was the glue, you know, he was.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: He was such a such an integral part of the
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: the being of that football team, not just defense, but
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: just the being of the Cincinnati Bengals in that Super
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Bowl season. To have him go down as early as
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: he did, it was almost like the indestructible Ultimate Warrior
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: went down. Oh my god, that's impossible. And they overcame
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: it pretty well. Um, but that was a very painful moment.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: And then the painful moment of Super Bowl twenty three,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Joe barrogetting spun around. And there's an operty six Super
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Bowl fifty six, the most recent one, Um, Joe Barrow
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: getting spun around by Aaron Donald and there were opportunities
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: there to extend to play and maybe win the game. Um,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: and it's you know that that was very painful. It
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: was one of six sacks that were allowed in the
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: second half of that football game. Extremely painful. So I guess,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: I guess those would be painful moments for me in
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Bengal's history that occurred in super big uber games. For sure,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: you got a fourth. You got those three Super Bowls,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: a fourth a fourth painful moment, of course, you had
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: several from Super Bowl twenty times. There's there's a laundry list. Yeah,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: there's a laundry list of them. I'll hate you with mine.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: And then maybe you agree with one of these or
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: a jogs your you know thought process for another one.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: So I had the goal line stand that was number
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: one on my list I had from Super Bowl twenty three.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: I wrote down Montana to Taylor because that was the
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: final nail in the coffin. That was John Taylor's only
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: catch of that Super Bowl. The game weather with thirty
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: four seconds to go. And again, you know, it was
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: a mistake in the secondary. And that's how a lot
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: of big plays happened, you know, due to the other
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: team making a mistake and credit the team that wins
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: by capitalizing on no question, I wrote down the Jeremy
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Hill umble in the infamous fifteen playoff meltdown at Paul
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Brown Stadium. AJ mcgarreon hits Aj Green for the touchdown
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: pass with one fifty to go. On the next play
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: from scrimmage, Perfect intercepts Landry Jones with one thirty six
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: to go. The Bengals have a one point lead with
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: the ball at the Pittsburgh twenty six and on the
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: very next play from scrimmage, Jeremy Hill gets stripped by
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Ryan Shazier. Ross Cockrell recovers. We know what happened after that.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: So those are three and then my fourth painful Mount
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Rushmore Bengals moment Greg Cook's injury third game of his
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: rookie year, fifth pick in the draft, the Bengals are
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: off to a three and oz start. He tears his
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: rotator cuff, misses three games, the Bengals lose them all.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: He does come back, wins offensive Rookie of the Year,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: has a great year, and never significantly plays again because
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: at that point a rotator cuff injury wasn't easily repaired exactly.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: And Buck Buchanan, you know'll fill on his arm as
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: it was extended and ripped his shoulder up and to
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: the this day, I remember talking to Paul Brown, God
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: rest his soul, about the excellence of Greg Cook, and
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: he just couldn't say enough. Superlatos and Mike Brown the
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: same way I mean Greg Cook was. I did uh
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: play in a couple of charity basketball games scenarios with
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: an unbelievable athlete, I mean, just really gifted, really good
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: basketball player. But I can imagine what he was like
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: out in the football field as a as a quarterback,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: and all of his teammates and coaches that were what
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: we're part of that time. You know that lightning bolt
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: of time with Greg Cook, say man just cursed if
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: he'd been able to avoid injury and sustain it. Who knows?
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Who know? All Right, our mount rushmore of Bengals good guys. Fortunately,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: this is another category where we could pick dozens really,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: but we've got to have four heads on the mountain
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: of Bengals good guys. Yeah, I mean there's there's so
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: many obviously, you know in my mind Anthony, when you
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: knows goes, yeah, he goes, he goes to the leadership.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: He's he's carrying the banner as uh as you look
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: at look at the good guys on on the football team.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: You know, guys that that stood up, uh you know,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: to to the mass media in in difficult times as
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: well as the good times and and handled both with
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: ease and both with uh with applauma as such. Boomerisias
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: and Chris Collinsworth, you know. Uh, those those kind of
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: guys come to mind. The Swat team Fulture, uh Sally Et.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Those guys were really good guys you know as well,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: and had an influence on their uh you know, on
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: their football teams in a in a very positive way.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Like you said, I mean, you can you can name
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: so so many. Giovanni Bernard, who you talked about, Um
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: with that run against the Miami Dolphins, zig zagging all
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: over the football field. Just just an unbelievable human being. Um.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: The list, the list is so long, you feel like
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I you know, I don't want
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: to leave anybody out because there are there are a
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: ton of guys that I mean. You look at guys
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: like Bruce Kazerski, you know, a great guy in a
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: in a stand up guy. I've been very fortunate to
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: be around a lot of offensive lineman as a as
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: a player, a teammate, and as from a broadcast position.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: That's my go to group. You know, when it's when
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: when that's uh dicey on, when it's a tough sledding
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: as touch, I go to get some lubricant to make
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: that a little bit easier from the offensive line. And
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: they're always they're always they'll always stand up to it
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: and handle it in the right way. So there's Kenny Emerson,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: you know, my roommate for so many years, just a
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: just a great guy, just a you know, assault of
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: the earth type guy. UM, great father, great family man,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: you know, just a just a phenomenal human being. The
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: list goes on and on, and that we're very fortunate,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: I think to be blessed that way. I think that's
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: part of when the Bengals have had good teams. That
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: has been part of the reason why the chemistry factor
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: and chemistry is easy to established, easily established when you
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: have good guy Joe Burrows, a great guy, really good
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: guy Jamar Chase, great guy, um you know, Sam Hubbard.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: There's leaders. There's great guys and leaders on every phase
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: of this current Cincinnati Bengal football team. And that's where
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: chemistry comes from. That's where culture comes from. It starts
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: with guys that are all in, you know, and all
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: about each other. It's it's it's we us, It's not
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: I me, and you have to have That's what it's
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: all about. All right. Here are the four guys on
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: my Bengals. Good guy Mount Rushmore, Anthony Munyo's finest human
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: being I've ever met, the most impressive person in any
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: walk of life I've ever met. So he's an obvious guy.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Bloomer Asiasin not only a great player, but really for
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: his big heart. Think of what he's done with his
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: foundation for cystic fibrosis. They've raised more than one hundred
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: and fifteen million dollars to extend lives. Just incredible. I'm
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: putting Andy Dalton on the list for Andy and JJ Foundation.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Think of all they've done for six children and their families,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: those hubs and hospitals, the date nights, the Christmas gifts,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: all of that stuff. And then I'm putting Andrew Whitworth
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: on the list. The NFL Man of the Year last year.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Just phenomenal the years he was in Cincinnati. On a
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: personal note, my wife took me out for my birthday
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: one year. We're at a fancy restaurant in Cincinnati. It's
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: like a Tuesday night or something like that. While we're
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: in the restaurant, it happened to be there, came by
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: with his wife, said hello, exchange pleasantries. Didn't think much
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: of it. At the end of the night when we
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: went to pay, he had picked up the tables. Yeah,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: and this was an expensive meal. So that was very
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: kind of him. You know, I'm not putting him on
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: the Mount Rushmore for that reason, but what a good
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: man he is. Yeah, he is. I mean and Anthony
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Muniels and Andrew were Worth have a very very close
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: relationship and type bond. Cut from the same cloth. You know,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: it's it's um and it's it's about as uh as
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: good a piece of cloth as you can find. You know,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: there's there's no imperfections in that cloth, and they're both
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: cut from it. Um major major impacts on their organizations.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: In what's case, two organizations and Anthony's he was briefly
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay, but obviously the biggest part of his
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame career was with the Cincinnati Bengals and
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: ironic two left tackles. You know, so they Bengals had
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: a nice run for a lot of years by somebody
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: that mean that left hackle position, the blind side of
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: the right hand quarterback, that not only was made of
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: the right stuff physically, but mentally and spiritually and everything
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: to be able to play at a high level for
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: a very long time. We moved to our Mount Rushmore
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: of Bengals nicknames. Top four Bengals nicknames en franchise history. Okay,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: well I'm gonna go. My number one UM is Ben
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Jarvis green ellis the law firm. I mean when they
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: when named Ben Jarvis green Ellis Law Firm, it was
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: like it was so perfect. I'm like that that's classic.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: That really is. I mean, that's just that's just a
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: classic plastic nickname law firm. Um. I like positional nicknames
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: more so than individual nicknames. The Web Wilson Whitley, Eddie Edwards,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Ross Browner, Gary Burley, names w EBB, the web super
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Bowl sixteen that it has, you know, the double meanings
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: and all that. Uh, those guys did a great job
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: up front, and they formed a web that people had
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: to deal with and and uh couldn't couldn't quite solve.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: I like, uh, I like Swat Team as well. You know,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: I liked I like that nickname for that that group
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: of guys, uh, for obvious reasons, and it caught on.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: I mean they literally were posterized and uh and to
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: this day, Uh, every every Bengal fan you know knows
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: knows all about the Swat Team. Um. So, I guess
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: I guess those would be those would be the four.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: I guess I've used up my four there? Or is
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: that only three? That's three? That's three? Yeah? Um another nickname, Um,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: I guess. I mean there's there's there's plenty of uh
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: like Ikey Woods. I mean that's that's that's kind of
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: a classic classic nickname. The Mexican Connection is another nickname
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: from more than one guy Monels in Montoya, but you
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: know Elbert Woods, I guess I'd probably go by Yaki
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: as well. I think that's that's one of the classic nicknames,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: probably in in franchise history. All right, My Mount Rushmore
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: Bengals nicknames. The Rattler. I thought that was great for
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Ken Riley because you know, he got it from his
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: alma mater, but it also was descriptive of his, you know,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: style of play, like a rattlesnake attacking getting all those
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: sixty five interceptions. The throwing Samoan for Jack Thompson, it's
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: a great nickname. Now, he didn't do well in the NFL,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: and people, you know, jokingly changed it to the overthrown Samoan,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: but it was still a great nickname. Ocho Cinco. For
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: this reason, the fact that Chad would legally change his
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: name in order to be able to put it on
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: the back of his uniform, I thought would say exactly
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: only Chad Genius. I got to throw the red rifle
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: on there because I came up with it. But it's
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: stuck for whatever reason, it's stuck. So are my four
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: mount Rushmore Bengal nicknames are mount Rushmore of best Bengals
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: draft picks. Now this can take into account, you know
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: where they were selected, the value, uh so top four
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore Bengals draft picks for Dave Lappom, Yeah, I'm
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: gonna go uh into this for that reason. Um, that
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: these these guys drafted, you know where they were drafted
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: for them to pan out to the level that they
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: panned out, Um, Bob Trumpy with a twelfth round pick
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: in the three hundreds, you know, Uh, that's that's pretty
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: good value there. Multiple time Pro bowler Charles Booby Clark
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: was drafted I think the seventeenth round Paul Brown, as
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: only Paul Brown could goes down to Bethune Cookman. He
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: sees this tight end named Charles Clark. That's another great
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: nickname though, Booby, That's that's a nickname candidate right there,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: U Booby Clark. He says, this is my big back,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: this is my Marion Motley, this is my you know,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: later on Pete Johnson, Booby Clark was a talented guy,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: and uh and they they got a lot of production
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: with a very late pick in in in Booby Clark.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Tim Crumry the tenth pick of the draft. I think
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: it's two hundred and seventy six pick. I think he
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: was in the in the draft. Tim crum rye uh
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: to to play at the level that he played at.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: And I can tell you my last year was his
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: rookie year, and he was not happy about being a
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: tenth round pick. And Dave Remington was the first round pick,
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: and every time we did one on one Nutcracker drill,
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: he jumped in there no matter what they had arranged
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: by script. So he wanted to go against that first
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: round pick in the draft and try to, you know,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: show him that he guys I belong Well, he showed
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: he belonged very very early and very very often. So
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: I'd say, I'd say he's another one of mine that
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: you know that obviously panned out and panned out very
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: very well. And then I'm just gonna go with the
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: three headed monster of three offensive linemen in the nineteen
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: eighty eight Super Bowl team, Max Montoya seventh round pick,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Joel Walter seventh round pick, Bruce Kazerski ninth round pick.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Three starters. You know you got the Hall of Famer
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: and the you know, the early pick of his draft,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Anthony Munios. But three of the other four guys you
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: know picked in the late one hundreds and into the
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: two hundreds and formed U formed a pretty formidable group
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: up front there in the offensive line. And that just
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: speaks to the genius I think of Jim McNally as
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: the offensive land coach. All right. My Mount Rushmore of
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Bengals draft picks also includes Tim cump Crimry for the
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: value number two seventy six overall, as you mentioned, arguably
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: the best defensive player in franchise history. Similarly, I have
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Geno Atkins on my Mount Rushmore fourth round pick number
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: one twenty overall, eight time Pro bowler, most of any
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Bengals defensive player All Decade team in the twenty tens.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: So I've got Gino on there. I've got T. J.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Hushman Zada on my all draft pick Mount Rushmore seventh
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: round pick number two oh four overall twenty five wide
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: receivers taken before him still holds the franchise record for
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: most catches in a season. And then this is not
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: a late pick, but I'm putting Anthony Munio's on the list.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: Number three overall only because so many teams took him
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: off their board because of his injuries. Only played one
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: game a senior year at USC. The Bengals watched him
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: in the Rose Bowl. Mike Brown famously said that he
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: and Paul laughed watching the game because they knew his
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: knee was one hundred percent. And they took the plunge
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: at number three overall and wound up with the best
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: player in team history. And I remember Forest Greg went
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: out there to work him out, and Forrest Greg lined
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: up as a defensive end and a wide technique to
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: pass rush, and Anthony moved out there effortlessly and flewidly
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: and flawlessly and put two hands into Forrest chest and
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: jammed him to the ground. Forrest Greg went and Anthony's like,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: oh no, you know, he's like helping him up, and Forest,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: it's good. You're good. We're good. He came back, he said,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: we're drafting him. No fens or butts, We're drafting this guy.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: So what a great move by the Cincinnati Bengals to
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: draft Anthony Windows. All right, our next category, the mount
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: rushmore of assistant coaches in Bengals history. Well, we talked
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: about Kenny Anderson being the most important player in franchise history.
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  Speaker 1: The guy that tutored him, Bill Walsh. Bill Walsh was
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: an unbelievable mind football mind and an unbelievable football coach,
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: and obviously he went on to great success after after
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: leaving this Cincinnati Bengals. But Paul Brown knew what he
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: was doing there. Bill Walsh was on that original staff
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: and just a dynamic football coach. And I remember Kenny
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: talking about how Bill Walsh got him ready to play
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  Speaker 1: at the National Football League level, you know, over and
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: over and over again. The repetition started with defeat, and
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  Speaker 1: Kenny said, they did footwork for like twice a day
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  Speaker 1: for a week before they even put a football in
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  Speaker 1: his hand. And then they started, you know, working through
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: the other body mechanics and then ultimately throwing the football.
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  Speaker 1: And it was a month for he threw the football.
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  Speaker 1: So he basically took him apart and put him back
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: together again. The player from tiny Augustana was draft in
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: the third round, and that's a spectacular draft pick as
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: well as it turned out to take Kenny Anderson in
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: the sixties in the third round, sixty fourth or whatever
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  Speaker 1: it was. I think that in that particular draft and
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  Speaker 1: then have Bill Waltz to tutor him and to guide
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: him and to mold him into the player that he became.
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  Speaker 1: And Kenny Will talked freely about it. I mean a
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  Speaker 1: lot of it's right place, right time, luck Bill Walsh.
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  Speaker 1: How can you ask for anything better than Paul Brown
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: and Bill Walsh as you're a young player coming into
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: the league. I feel the same way about another assistant coach,
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: my first offensive line coach, Bill Tiger Johnson. Paul Brown
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: is the head coach, Bill Tiger john Bill Tiger Johnson's
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: my offensive line coach and just an unbelievable teacher the
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: game of football, great player himself, Pro Bowl player with
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: the forty nine ers at center, snapping the ball to
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: y A Tittle. So I'm like, I'm gonna listen to
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: what this guy says. And he was great. Just a great,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: unbelievable coach to have for your first to experience in
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: the National Football League. To have a teacher like that,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: and then another line coach is a great assistant in
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: my mind. Jim McNally. You know, Jimmy, Jimmy was, he's
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: still He's a guy that's just walking Encyclopedia technique and
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: he's always trying to refine and UH and to improve
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: and H and rebuild. And then on the defensive side,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Dick Lebau he's you know, the zone blitz he was
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: doing here with the Cincinnati Bengals with David Fulcher before
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: Troy Paalamalo in the Pittsburgh Steelers. He was doing a
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: lot of the same things and we're getting the same
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: type of results. Dick Lebou was a phenomenal you know,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: defensive back in his day. Hall of Famer and two
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: categories player and coach, you know, um, and just as
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: good a defensive coordinator. He was probably the premier guy
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: his time. UM. Hank Bulla, the doctor of defense that
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: we had in Super Bowl sixteen, another unbelievable football mind.
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  Speaker 1: He was doing blitzes and doing things defensively that were
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: ahead of his time, you know, So offensively and defensively.
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  Speaker 1: There's been some outstanding, outstanding coaches. There's no question I'll
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: throw Darren Simmons in there as far as special teams coaches.
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  Speaker 1: He's as good as I've seen and he's been doing
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: it here for a long time. And Mike Brown is
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: a football man, and Mike Brown realizes that he's got
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: something unique and significant in Darren Simmons, and he's kept
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: them and made sure that he's kept them, and that
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: that phase, that third phase has always taken care of
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: and take care of at a very very high level,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: as high level as you can get. With Darren Simmons. Again,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: another unbelievable teacher. And that's that's what a football coach is.
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  Speaker 1: They'll tell you. You know, I look at myself as
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: a teacher, and these guys are all great teachers. All right,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: You've got my mount rushmore of assistant coaches covered. I've
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: got Bill Walsh, Dick Lebou, Jim McNally, and also Darren Simmons.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: I agree with Darren nineteenth year with the team, certainly
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: one of the best special teams coordinators in the end.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: I will give you my honorable mentions. Mike Zimmer, Frank Ganz,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: who was a you know, special team's trend setter, certainly
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: helped establish the importance of that coaching position on the staff.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Jim Anderson tremendous running backs coach for three decades, and
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: I'm throwing Hugh Jackson in there. It obviously did not
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: work out as an NFL head coach, but he was
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: a great assistant coach no matter where Marvin Lewis put him.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: And the same thing with Dick Lebau. You know, it
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: didn't work out as a head coach, but does not
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: diminish you know, the achievements and accolades that should be
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: given to those achievements as an unbelievable assistant coach, no
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: question about it. We moved to the Mount Rushmore of
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: Bengals villains. These are opponents that either starred against the
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: Bengals or God under our skin or God under Bengals
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: fans skin. The Mount Rushmore of Bengals villains. Yeah, I mean, uh,
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm going to go back to playing days.
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  Speaker 1: I mean Pittsburgh Steelers, you know the Steel Curtain. I
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: mean that defense. Uh, Joe green Ernie Holmes, Dwight White.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Elsie Greenwood wasn't quite like those guys from a personality standpoint,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: but he you know, he kind of followed the back.
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  Speaker 1: But they just soon spit on you, look at you
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  Speaker 1: and literally they would spit on you and kick you
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: in the in the below the waste regions. I mean
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: literally that that would that occurred, all of it. I
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: mean that that that football team. And then you know,
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: in the next level he had Jack Lambert, toothless Jack
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: back there who would just he would a lot of
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: spittle would come between those teeth that would be taken
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: out to play the game. He was, he was, he
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: was something else they had. They had big time intimidating
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: type players, Mel Blunt on the back end, Donnie Shell
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  Speaker 1: at safety. I mean that was basically a defense full
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: of guys that would would bend the rules as far
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: as they could be bent. But they were great players too,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: I mean just phenomenal, phenomenal athletes. They were so well
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: put together. George Parlos, their defensive coach that put it together,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: came up with you know, adjustments and and schematic you know,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: techniques that were just you know, just outstanding. This phenomenal um.
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  Speaker 1: And then I'd have to go with the Cleveland Browns.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm stuck in my playing days again. Battle
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: of Ohio. Um, you know Joe Turkey Jones, who monk
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Terry Bradshaw was on his head. Uh, you know that
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: they were. They were something to deal with as a
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: defensive football team as well. Um, Jerry Shark was a
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: was a great player at the defensive defensive tackle position,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: and Walter Johnson. The guy played against was Man Mountain Dean.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: I mean he was a heavyweight wrestling champion and he
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: just he was a powerful, powerful man. They were really
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: good up front. They had excellent linebacker corps. Clay Matthews
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: Senior was playing at that particular time, to Ambrose was
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: at the middle linebacker position. They had Tom Darden and
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: guys like that on the back end that would stone you.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: They definitely hit you. I'd say, you know that, uh
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: that the Cleveland Browns um that Raiders in my era
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: with John Matuzac and otis Sister Drunk and you know
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: from the University of Mars and um and Al Davis
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: famously said, look, um, take it to the limit every
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: single snap play in the gray area. Take it as
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: far as the gray air as you possibly can. And
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: if you if if the penalties start to be a problem,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: we'll adjust to it and I'll pay the fines. So
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: that that was open season for the for the Raiders
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: to be the Raiders, and they were. They were a
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: defensive team that would would definitely would definitely try to
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: dominate you, and uh uh they back it up. Jack Tatum.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: When Jack Tatum hits you as a safety, felt like
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: a two hundred and fifty pound linebacker was putting the
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: hammer down on you. He was you know, he was
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: a son of a gun boy. He could play. There's
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: no question about it though. Those are some of the
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: teams and guys that you know that that that come
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: to my mind. Those three, um you know, obviously the
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: Cleveland moved to Baltimore and the Baltimore Ravens. Think of
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: all the all the punishing players that Baltimore Raven defensive
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: football teams have had, you know, from it starts with
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: the Goose up front, Tony Siragusa, Ray Lewis at the
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: linebacker position, all the great linebackers they had, they had
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: tremendous players in the back end. I mean that, that's
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: that's franchise. Baltimore has a history of of mean minded
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: defensive football player. There's no doubt about it. All right,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: this is good because your Mount Rushmore has four teams
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  Speaker 1: featuring guys that went beyond the line of what you're
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: supposed to do. I picked out four individuals that stand
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: out as my villains, my hated opponents. Big Ben Roethlisberger
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: dominated the Bengals for eighteen years, twenty six and ten
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: against Cincinnati, including two playoff wins at Paul Brown Stadium
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: fifteen and four at Paul Brown Stadium, despite the fact
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: that the Bengals beat him his last three times, so
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: he was twenty six and seven before losing his last
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: three head to head games against Cincinnati. I've got Chemo
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: von Olhoffen. I don't think it was a cheap shot
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: to Carson Palmer. I think he just got rolled into
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: his lower leg unfortunately, but that injury changed the trajectory
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: of the franchise, as Paul Docherty from The Enquirer often
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: refers to him, Chemo von axe Murderer, just because of
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: the result of that hit. I've got another Steeler. Joey
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: Porter came on onto the field and the twenty fifteen
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: playoff game that led to the Adam Jones penalty and
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: the Joey Porter rule where assistant coaches can no longer
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: come onto the field when players are injured. He also
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: jumped Leavy Jones at a casino in Las Vegas before that,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: so I've got him on the list. And then I've
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: got a guy that I like personally, but I put
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: him on Mount Rushmore just because of what his success
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: meant to Bengal's history. And that's Joe Montana one of
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: the two Super Bowls six and Ozho and the six
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: games he started against Cincinnati. So those four guys make
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: up my Mount Rushmore of villain slash hated opponents. Next
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore category interview subjects. These are guys that we've
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: enjoyed interviewing or think we're great interviews over the years.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Who comes to mind for you? Yeah, I mean, I
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: think Andrew Worth, you know, is a guy that is very,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: very high on that list for all the reasons we've
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: he talked about, um, you know, not only his football
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: acumen in his in his football understanding of the game
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: and opponents and all that sort of things the XS knows,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: but everything else in life. You know, he's one of
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: those guys that just has um a lot to say
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: and says it extremely well. You know. I think, uh,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: probably Boomersiasen is as good an interview as a player
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: as you could possibly hope to have, and that led
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: to a career in the broadcast world. It's been dynamic,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: to say the least. You could always kind of Boomers
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: sias and never shirked his responsibility, and I think that's
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: what made him a great leader as well. It's like,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: you know, boy, that game didn't go well and I
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: didn't play well, but I'm not going to adduct the media.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get up and face the music and I'm
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: gonna answer questions. And he always did. And I think
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: he garnered a tremendous amount of respect from everybody, not
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: just as teammates, but the media, the city, the region,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: every everybody. UM. And uh, you know, I think that's
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: I think that's big Chris Collinsworth same way. I mean,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously great stories, funny guy. Um. And another
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: one who understood the role of the media had in
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: the success and popularity of the National Football League. As
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: a player, understood the significance of of of adding two
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: instead of you know, subtracting from or minimizing coverage, always
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: added two coverage, always gave something more to the media
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: than the than the average player would you know, would
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: go a little bit deeper. So and again that led
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: to a phenomenal career in the broadcast world as well.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: So I think I think, uh, those three guys are
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: you know, probably my my first three, Um, a fourth boy,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: I probably probably have to go with a defensive player,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: because everybody, I think I just had offensive players at
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: this point, huh, A defensive player From a from a
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: media standpoint, I'd have to say Solomon Wilcot's for the
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: same reason. I mean, Sally. You go to Sally after
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: a game and he could tell you the wise and
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: wherefores of everything, Why things worked, why they didn't, adjustments
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: that were made, adjustments that should have been made. Um,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: same plays that were made, plays that shouldn't have been
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: that shouldn't have been made. So Solomon Wilcot's keen understanding
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: of the game of football, but not just again, not
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: just x's and os, but applying it to all right,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: I understand that the game of football and the National
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: Football League is extremely popular for a reason, and so
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: he added to that and he still does to this day.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: So he understood that dynamic as a player, and he
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: understands that dynamic as a you know, in the broadcast
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: world as well. And it is quite remarkable how many
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: guys have gone from player to broadcast in from the
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati Banals, it really is. And Bob Trumpy, you know,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: was the original and another great example of a guy
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: that's I mean, Trump was the media battled to get
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: in front of his locker, you know, after a game
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: back in the day because Trump was drunk. He pulled
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: no punches, no holds barred man. He put it out
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: there and it led to sports talk, the godfather of
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: sports talk here in the city of Cincinnati, into a
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame broadcast career covering the National Football League.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: And of that list that you just gave with Boomer Collinsworth, Wilcots,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: and Andrew Whitworth. If whit wants to get into broadcasting,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: he'll be a superstar too. My interview list includes two
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: of the four that you mentioned. I've got wit on
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: the list. Articulate, thoughtful, he always tautes something. I mean,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: he's one of those guys you talk in for five
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: minutes and at the end of it you're like, huh,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize that. That's great. I've got Chris Collinsworth
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: on there again, smart, colorful, honest, just great as a
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: player and great. Now I've got Frank Pollock on my list.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: I really enjoy his news conferences. They're colorful, they're interesting.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: I've enjoyed the one on one conversations that I've had
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: with him. I did that fun Facts last year where
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: I just gave him like former teammates that he played,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: and he had a great story about everybody really good.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: And then my fourth, which might surprise some people, is
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: Adam Jones because totally unfiltered, impossible of BS sometimes got
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: himself into trouble with some of the things he said,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: but I've always said that I thought that Andrew Adam
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: Jones brother was a tremendous interview subject. Final Mount Rushmore category,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: our Mount Rushmore of what ifs in Bengals history. You're
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: nodding your head. These are probably going to be some
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: wistful moments of things that, had they gone slightly differently,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: Bengals history would have changed for the better. Well, I
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: guess you know, I'm going to reverse a lot of
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: the painful moments, you know, I mean, you know, what
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: if what if? What if one mental error didn't occur
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: in the four play sequence of the goal line stand
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: in Super Bowl sixteen up in Pontiac, Michigan, and Bengals
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: had scored a touchdown? What if? I mean, would that
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: football game have ultimately changed? Would the outcome have been different?
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: Don't know, but would have had a hell of a
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: lot better chance. There's no question about it. What if
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: Lewis Billips had squeezed the interception in Super Bowl twenty three.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's game over, you know at
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: that point if he holds onto that football, God rest
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: his soul. He didn't, Um, you know that. I think that, Uh,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: you know that that might have had a different outcome.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: If Tim Crumbright doesn't shatter his leg, you know, in
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: that football game, might have had a different outcome. Um.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: What if the Bengals offensive line were capable of providing
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: better protection for Joe Burrow in Super Bowl fifty six,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: particularly in the second half of that football game. Um
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: that that that last game, of that last play, It's
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: just mind boggling to me when I look back on it,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: because they had the perfect call, the slide protection double team.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: Aaron Donald was handled improperly from a technique standpoint, allowed
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: him to win outside and uh and he affected the game.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: And he affected the second half of that football game
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: way way too much. There's there's uh, there's no question
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: about it. So I'd say that, uh, you know, reversing
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: reversing some of the uh, the order of the Super
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: Bowl outcomes. I think I think would be a would
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: be a good starting point, all right, my Bengals mount
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: rushmore of what ifs. I'll go back to something that
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: I covered earlier. What if Greg Cook didn't get hurt
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: or if rotator cuffs were repaired then like they are now,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: you would probably have a couple of Super Bowl rings.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: And what where would Kenny Anderson have been? Where would
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: his NFL career have been? If Greg Cook had not
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: been injured, there would have been no Kan Anderson here
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  Speaker 1: in Cincinnatis. That would have been a huge what if
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  Speaker 1: because it would have changed the history of the franchise dramatically,
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  Speaker 1: you know, from a player perspective, a player standpoint, I
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  Speaker 1: also have what if Jeremy Hill didn't fumble? Marvin Lewis
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have that stigma of no playoff wins? He would
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  Speaker 1: have had his first. Could the Bengals have gone to
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  Speaker 1: New England the next week with a J. McCarron at
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  Speaker 1: quarterback and defeated the Patriots. Probably not. It probably just
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  Speaker 1: would have been one playoff win. But still it'd be
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  Speaker 1: nice for Marvin dab One. Yeah, would it? Would? It
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  Speaker 1: would have you know, gotten that just on a monkey
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  Speaker 1: that's a five hundred pound gorilla, you know, on the back.
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  Speaker 1: And with Bill Belichick coaching a J. McCarron would have
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  Speaker 1: been challenged, There's no question about it. The entire football
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  Speaker 1: team offense would have been challenged. Bill Belichick's as good
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  Speaker 1: as there is when you get to the playoffs and
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  Speaker 1: changing game plans and adjustments, and he's the wizard, no doubt.
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  Speaker 1: Here's one that you can speak to. What if Paul
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  Speaker 1: Brown did not retire in nineteen seventy five Bengals were
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  Speaker 1: eleven and three. You were on the team his final year.
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  Speaker 1: That's the best winning percentage they've ever had in a season.
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  Speaker 1: He was sixty seven years old, so he was getting
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  Speaker 1: up there. But Bill Belichick is sixty nine right now,
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  Speaker 1: Pete Carroll is seventy. Guys are doing it nowadays at
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  Speaker 1: that age. What would have happened if Paul decided to
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  Speaker 1: stick it out for a few more years. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's a really good what if because back then
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  Speaker 1: coaches didn't coach, you know, into their seventies and and
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  Speaker 1: you know Paul, I think Paul was a believer in
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  Speaker 1: you get to a certain age it's time to move on.
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  Speaker 1: A player gets to a certain stage of his career,
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  Speaker 1: it's time to think about that player, you know, moving
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  Speaker 1: on or retiring or trading or whatever. It wasn't that
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  Speaker 1: he was incapable. He was still sharp his attack mentally.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, nothing had slipped in that regard. And uh
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  Speaker 1: and I was pretty surprised because we were pretty good,
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  Speaker 1: you know, eleven and three record, and two of the
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  Speaker 1: losses to the eventual Super Bowl champion Pittsburgh Steelers, both
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  Speaker 1: of them within range, I mean within a touchdown each
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  Speaker 1: time one score games. It's not like we were being
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  Speaker 1: man handled and lost to the Raiders. I think it
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  Speaker 1: was that year as well, who were pretty good football team.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's a that's a great what if. There's
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  Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. I think part of it
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  Speaker 1: too was Bill Johnson had already turned down coach head
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  Speaker 1: coaching opportunit unities. I noted the forty nine Ers for
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  Speaker 1: one opportunity that came up as the great former All
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  Speaker 1: Pro center there. They wanted him to come back and
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  Speaker 1: be the head coach. He'd proven himself as an assistant.
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  Speaker 1: Need he said no, Paul's told me I'm the guy
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  Speaker 1: when he steps down. I liked the potential opportunity here,
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, because I mean the following year we went
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  Speaker 1: ten and four, still had a really good football team,
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  Speaker 1: ten and four and didn't make the playoffs. Ten and
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  Speaker 1: four record the Oilers, you know, we got the additional
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  Speaker 1: wild card spot. Steelers won the division. Oilers got the
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  Speaker 1: wild card. With the ten and four mark, we sat brutal.
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  Speaker 1: All right, my final, my fourth and final what if
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  Speaker 1: on my Mount rushmore of what ifs? What if? In
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  Speaker 1: the nineteen ninety nine draft, Brown select him Couch number one.
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  Speaker 1: Eagles take Donovan McNabb number two. Now the Bengals around
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  Speaker 1: the clock, Mike Ditka calls from the Saints offers all
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  Speaker 1: of their nineteen ninety nine draft picks, six picks, including
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  Speaker 1: number twelve overall, plus their first round pick in two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and their third round pick in two thousands, So
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  Speaker 1: that's eight draft picks for the number three overall spot.
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  Speaker 1: The Bengals say thanks, but no thanks, and take Achille
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  Speaker 1: Smith instead. Now, the Redskins eventually took the Saints offer,
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  Speaker 1: and they didn't become a powerhouse as a result, So
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  Speaker 1: you still got to nail the draft picks. But Achille
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  Speaker 1: Smith was, you know, such a disaster unfortunately that he
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  Speaker 1: can't help. But wonder what would have happened if the
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  Speaker 1: Bengals had taken that offer from the Saints. Absolutely, and Bruce,
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  Speaker 1: Bruce Costlet. I wonder what Bruce Costlet's thinking these days
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  Speaker 1: if they he was the head coach at the time,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, I know that he would have made
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  Speaker 1: the trade. There's no old question about it. He would
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  Speaker 1: have made that trade. You definitely, it's it's a quarterback
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  Speaker 1: driver the league, even more so now than then, but
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  Speaker 1: it was then as well. Um, But man, that's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of capital. That's a ton of capital. At some
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  Speaker 1: point in time, the odds dictate that you're you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna find a quarterback or enough people around a
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  Speaker 1: quarterback that is capable to make me even play at
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  Speaker 1: a higher level. I mean, that's one that if history,
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  Speaker 1: if you could go back in history and change it,
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  Speaker 1: I think you might want to think about that possibility.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to give you an unbelievable nugget that occurred
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  Speaker 1: to me as I was coming up with my what
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  Speaker 1: ifs in Bengal's history. That draft was one draft before
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots selected Tom Brady. A Keiley Smith is only
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: two years older than Tom Brady. How about that? That crazy?
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  Speaker 1: That is crazy? That is crazy. The one thing that
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  Speaker 1: every time I start thinking about drafts. The nineteen seventy
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  Speaker 1: four Pittsburgh Steel the drafts five Hall of famers and
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: one of them wasn't even drafted. Donnie Shell seventeen rounds
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  Speaker 1: in the draft in nineteen seventy four. Donnie Shell didn't
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  Speaker 1: even get drafted in seventeen rounds. Science is a college
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: free agent and goes to the Hall of Fame. But
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: they drafted Lin Swan in the first round, Jack Jack
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  Speaker 1: Lambert in the second round. Let's see, Mike Webster was
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  Speaker 1: drafted in the in the fifth round. I think Stalworth
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  Speaker 1: was drafting the fourth I believe. So four Hall of
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: famers in the first five rounds of the draft. Talk
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: about putting the bat in the ball in a draft?
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? And then to get all time
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: great safety in the history of the National Football League
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  Speaker 1: is a college free agent out of South Carolina State. Crazy.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Cincinnati is the city of seven Hills. We
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of room for these mount Rashmars. We
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  Speaker 1: can carve them into hill sides in the Cincinnati area
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  Speaker 1: will be good. Yeah. Really, there's a lot of a
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  Speaker 1: lot of hills, a lot of hills that could could
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  Speaker 1: support Mount Rushmore's Absolutely yeah, and it would. It would
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  Speaker 1: keep a lot of sculptors busy for a while. That's
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