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Cory Bowman For Mayor - POST Debate Talk · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: Happy Friday. Early voting is going on right now. You
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Speaker 1: apparently have twenty eight days and you can see the
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Speaker 1: countdown at Corey bowman dot COM's right there on the
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Speaker 1: front page of his website. Twenty five days, eleven hours,
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Speaker 1: fifty nine minutes and now eighteen seconds to vote. Corey Bowman,
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the fifty five Carse Morning Show on
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Speaker 1: the heels of your debate against aftab Provall last night
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Speaker 1: at Xavier. How you feeling this morning, Corey, Well.
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Speaker 2: I'm killing a lot better. I just stopped by my
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Speaker 2: shop and got my first quartato for the day, so
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Speaker 2: it's going to be a good day today, sir. How
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Speaker 2: you doing great to have be on the show.
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Speaker 1: It's great. So you know Wednesday night at the smitham
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Speaker 1: and fundraiser, I mean, I know you pretty well, Corey.
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Speaker 1: I mean I've talked to you a lot on the air,
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Speaker 1: I've talked to you off air. I've heard you comment
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Speaker 1: and in no way, shape or form what I ever
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Speaker 1: like to declare you as some sort of maga conservative,
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Speaker 1: which apparently is exactly what aftab Provall came out. We
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Speaker 1: created a drinking game yesterday in anticipation in debate anytime
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Speaker 1: someone mentions Trump or MAGA. That was a shot. And
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Speaker 1: of course he accused you of being a MAGA Republican.
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Speaker 1: I don't know why the audience. Somebody said that, he
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Speaker 1: said you're a MAGA extremist, and the audience booting. So
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Speaker 1: I don't know why the audience is booing. And the
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Speaker 1: fact that he represents MAGA. I mean, you either support
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Speaker 1: the Trump agenda or you don't. You can't run for
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Speaker 1: mayor and not be concerned with the federal employees who
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Speaker 1: are getting fired, not be concerned with the racializing of
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Speaker 1: our own public safety challenges here in community. Dude, I
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Speaker 1: have never heard you racialize anything. I've never heard you
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Speaker 1: even address federal level funding and spending because you're not
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Speaker 1: running for an office that controls or has anything to
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Speaker 1: do with it. That did that really irk you? I
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Speaker 1: guess this is my fundamental question. Did you feel like,
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Speaker 1: oh my god, I have to actually spend time pointing
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Speaker 1: this reality out?
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Speaker 2: Well? I don't know. It's because basically we knew that
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Speaker 2: these were going to be the talking points. You know,
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Speaker 2: the playbook's always the same. And for me, like you said,
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Speaker 2: we're running this race for Cincinnati, and so our biggest
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Speaker 2: battle that we've had throughout the entire year is just
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Speaker 2: showing people that we're not running this based on copy
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Speaker 2: and pasting national politics. I have opinions on national politics,
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Speaker 2: like everybody does, but that really shouldn't be brought to
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Speaker 2: city hall when it comes to just fixing your roads
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Speaker 2: and making sure the money is spent properly and make
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Speaker 2: sure that your crime is in order. These are practical
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Speaker 2: issues that require just common sense solutions, and I think
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Speaker 2: that's what people are tired of, you know. And people
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Speaker 2: were booing when that was brought up, because that's what
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Speaker 2: people are fed up with. They're fed up with people
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Speaker 2: from city hall trying to act like they're on a
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Speaker 2: national stage when really we need to be focusing on
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Speaker 2: the people that are on the streets of Cincinnati. And
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Speaker 2: that's it.
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Speaker 1: Well, and they kept coming back with it. I noticed
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Speaker 1: you at the end of the debate. They just ask
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Speaker 1: you out, pointy, Plank, if there's anything you disagree with
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Speaker 1: Trump on again. I mean, Trump's dealing with global affairs, warfare,
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Speaker 1: he's dealing with interstate commerce issues, fighting like national drug crises.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I know what they're trying to do, Corey.
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Speaker 1: I'm not an idiot. But you know, it's I think personally,
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Speaker 1: it's insulting to the audience in the crowd, who are
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Speaker 1: presumably residents of the City of Cincinnati or care about
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Speaker 1: city Cincinnati issues for him to be pushing things on
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Speaker 1: a national level. Christopher Smithlan has harped on this for
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Speaker 1: years and years. Why are they passing ordinances in the
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Speaker 1: city of Cincinnati saying something like we disagree with Israel.
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Speaker 1: You got no connection with Israel. Get back to the
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Speaker 1: business of the City of Cincinnati.
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Speaker 2: Damn it, No, you're absolutely true. You know, there's obviously
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Speaker 2: things from the national level that impact local citizens. And
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Speaker 2: so if there is clear anti Semitism, that there's clear
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Speaker 2: discrimination against a certain group for a race, that's stuff
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Speaker 2: that we have to stand up against no matter what.
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Speaker 2: But you know what's funny is that I was at
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Speaker 2: the BOE and I was casting my vote. I'm a
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Speaker 2: little biased. I won't tell you who I voted for.
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Speaker 2: But as I'm there, I speak with a gentleman and
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Speaker 2: he's wearing a Palestine sweatshirt on, and initially he's yelling
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Speaker 2: at my guys because he disagrees with a lot of
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Speaker 2: stuff from a national standpoint of what the conservative movement
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Speaker 2: stands for. I spoke with him for five minutes, and
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Speaker 2: I kid you not, After five minutes, he realized what
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Speaker 2: we were running this race on and he told me
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Speaker 2: point blank, I'm going to switch my vote from mathtab
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Speaker 2: to you because of what you've just told me right now.
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Speaker 2: So I just think that that is symbolic of what
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Speaker 2: this campaign has to represent, is just getting people to realize,
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Speaker 2: we have to run this for Cincinnati. We have to
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Speaker 2: take care of our own streets. You know. One thing
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Speaker 2: last night they kept saying, and I don't know, I
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Speaker 2: don't know whether he just has people in his ear
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Speaker 2: that flat out lie, but he kept saying that I've
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Speaker 2: called for the National Guard to come to Cincinnati. And
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Speaker 2: what I've what I've told people over and over and
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Speaker 2: over is that number one, we don't have violent riots
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Speaker 2: currently in the streets. That's not the case, that we
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Speaker 2: don't need it. Number Two, a city that's run properly
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Speaker 2: can actually take care of its own crime. But that's
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Speaker 2: not what's happening right now. We got to change this
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Speaker 2: from internal structure with it.
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Speaker 1: We'll pause, bring Corey Bowman back. We'll talk about the
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Speaker 1: crime specific conversation in exchange, but also I want to
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Speaker 1: talk to him about the exchange about controlling one's own
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Speaker 1: destiny in one's own neighborhood within this city of Cincinnati,
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Speaker 1: insofar as property goes. I thought that was rather revealing
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Speaker 1: what atab Provoll revealed yesterday. A thirty six right now
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Speaker 1: more with Corey Bowman after these brief words. Fifty five
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Speaker 1: KRC is your five million talk station. Brian Towmins with
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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman, mayoral candidate. Find him on line Corey Bowman
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Speaker 1: dot com. We have a choice and it is open
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Speaker 1: voting right now. I want to pivot over to housing
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Speaker 1: and development and have to have Provall was on and
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Speaker 1: on yesterday Corey Bowman about the need to create and
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Speaker 1: build affordable housing. I think he claims he wants to build.
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Speaker 1: He personally is going to get a hammer out and
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Speaker 1: build forty thousand affordable housing units. Before we get to
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Speaker 1: the question of what exactly is affordability and is it
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Speaker 1: the same in any given neighborhood. He sure as hell
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Speaker 1: pointed out that you do not really have the right
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Speaker 1: to self determination. We need confordable housing. He's firm in that.
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Speaker 1: In order to solve that crisis, we have to build them,
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Speaker 1: and he said the prior zoning laws were what was
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Speaker 1: binding or hindering progress. Now, I know you'll have a
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Speaker 1: word or two on that. In your neighborhood specifically, you
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Speaker 1: know what was hindering progress. But he said sometimes that
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Speaker 1: the council and the mayor's always need to disagree with
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Speaker 1: residents in one part of town in order to address
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Speaker 1: the needs of residence in the entire city, saying we're
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Speaker 1: going to do the hard, sometimes unpopular work of building
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Speaker 1: housing across the city because pole after pole will show
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Speaker 1: you we need this kind of affordable housing. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he's isn't he basically saying that if you move in
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Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati, you're under threat or risk of
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Speaker 1: having your neighborhood completely transformed in spite of what you want,
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Speaker 1: on popular as may be, by them foisting a bunch
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Speaker 1: of affordable housing in your neighborhood. That is not exactly
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Speaker 1: a welcome sign for moving to the city of Cincinnati.
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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman, your response, now, I think that you.
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Speaker 2: Know the argument on the other side is that you
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Speaker 2: know what we're seeing from the federal government dictatorship than
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Speaker 2: you know, taking authority where you shouldn't. But that's exactly
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Speaker 2: what we saw last night from from atpad Purval and
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Speaker 2: he said, he said, the real part out loud is
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Speaker 2: that basically, no matter what you feel about your neighborhoods,
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Speaker 2: no matter what you feel about development, we are going
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Speaker 2: to issue our own development, our own standards on zoning,
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Speaker 2: and you're not going to have anything to say about it.
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Speaker 2: And I don't think that's right Cincinnati especially. You know,
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Speaker 2: it's one thing to regulate certain things downtown because you
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Speaker 2: have to have businesses and you have to have residential
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Speaker 2: all working together. But we are a city of fifty
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Speaker 2: two neighborhoods. Every neighborhood has its own uniqueness, its own character.
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Speaker 2: And if you're sitting there saying that we're going to
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Speaker 2: copy and paste our own design, development and zoning regulations
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Speaker 2: on you and you basically can't say anything about it, well,
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Speaker 2: in my mind, that is not properly representing the people
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Speaker 2: of your city. And I don't think that's right. You know,
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Speaker 2: we see that in the West End. They've put somewhereabouts
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Speaker 2: you can you know, basically prove about sixty seven to
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Speaker 2: tenty percent, but really it's about you know, closer to
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Speaker 2: eighty percent of affordable housing, and they keep calling it
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Speaker 2: affordable housing, right, government subsidized housing, you know, like I
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Speaker 2: chokingly said, but I knew the fact that it was
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Speaker 2: thirty sixty percent. Ami. I have a friend that's developing
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Speaker 2: a property across the street from my cop shopping to
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Speaker 2: an eighty percent. Ami, it's just government subsidized housing. To
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Speaker 2: try to put it down, the problem is is that
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Speaker 2: what they're funding is organizations in goos and people that
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Speaker 2: don't have the tenant's best interest at heart. They're funneling
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Speaker 2: money and then on top of that, they're building concrete
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Speaker 2: blocks that basically feel like a prison, and they really
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Speaker 2: are because they're keeping people in poverty the rest of
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Speaker 2: their lives. There's no pathway out. And I couldn't disagree
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Speaker 2: more with the policy of what's been happening currently.
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Speaker 1: Well, you may have answered my question because earlier in
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Speaker 1: the program, I was saying, what is affordable housing? Just
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Speaker 1: like you are, No one ever puts a dollar sign
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Speaker 1: on it necessarily, but even if they did, if you
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Speaker 1: build a complex in Hyde Park, six hundred square foot apartments,
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Speaker 1: that's going to command a certain rent because it's in
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Speaker 1: a certain neighborhood. Now, if you built the same complex
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Speaker 1: in your neighborhood in the West End, would a six
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Speaker 1: hundred square foot apartment command the same rent as an
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Speaker 1: apartment in Hyde Park? Location Location Location, I would suggest perhaps,
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Speaker 1: at least as of right now, Hyde Park's going to
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Speaker 1: command a much higher rent because of market forces and desirability.
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Speaker 2: No. Absolutely, And honestly, that's why the entirety of the
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Speaker 2: West Side is so up in arms right now is
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Speaker 2: because you can buy a house with the same property,
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Speaker 2: same architectural design on the west side, same beauty, same character,
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Speaker 2: and then you buy the same house on the east side,
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Speaker 2: and the east side is going to go for one
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Speaker 2: hundred and two hundred thousand more. And so what happens
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Speaker 2: is that these policies, when it comes to the affordable housing,
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Speaker 2: ultimately you're kind of trying to mimic or you're not mimic,
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Speaker 2: but you're trying to dictate the market. And when you
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Speaker 2: do that property value just goes down. Overall, you're concentrating
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Speaker 2: the poverty. Therefore, you're concentrating the c And then one
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Speaker 2: thing I'd say to the opposition is that you're showing
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Speaker 2: up for photo ops to pay Black lives matter on
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Speaker 2: city Hall, but really do black lives matter when it
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Speaker 2: comes to this affordable housing. From what I've seen, you
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Speaker 2: concentrate poverty and crime, which inadversely it affects the black communities.
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Speaker 2: And that's something that we have to fight. We have
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Speaker 2: to give everybody the opportunity to have a step up
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Speaker 2: in prosperity. And that's not what's happening.
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Speaker 1: That is not what's happening. All right, We're going to
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Speaker 1: pivot over to crime. We'll take a quick break right now,
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Speaker 1: bring Corey Bowman back to talk about the back and
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Speaker 1: forth yesterday during the debate at David University on crime.
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Speaker 1: One more with Mayor oal candidate Corey Bowman again online
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Speaker 1: at Coreybowman dot com. Let's be right back fifty five
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Speaker 1: KRC Sports Station. I share that sentiment on a Friday,
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Speaker 1: umens on the line he was involved in the debate
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Speaker 1: with Mayor. I have to have purval. I think he
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Speaker 1: did an excellent job last night, Corey Bowman and got
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Speaker 1: one more debate with the mayor. I guess real quick
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Speaker 1: here on the property thing, I think Mayor I have
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Speaker 1: to have provol said something along the lines the city
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Speaker 1: camp become a city just solely for wealthy people. But
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Speaker 1: isn't that exactly what they did when they gentrified over
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Speaker 1: the Rhine, kicking a lot of longtime residents out because
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Speaker 1: they can no longer afford it, moving in a bunch
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Speaker 1: of urban hipsters because they came with jobs and salaries
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Speaker 1: that are taxed, Corey, wasn't that the point of gentrification?
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Speaker 2: No? And then also in the current area of OTR,
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Speaker 2: everybody wants to talk about South of Liberty, That's where
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Speaker 2: the mayor has all the videos. Nobody wants to talk
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Speaker 2: about North of Liberty. You know, last night I invited
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Speaker 2: the guests Ronda Winn to be on the front road. Now,
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Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you. I've had talked with her
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Speaker 2: and she wasn't fully convinced about the race yet. She's
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Speaker 2: just trying to get justice for her daughter's murder that
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Speaker 2: happened north of Liberty in OTR. And still to this day,
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Speaker 2: the mayor has not reached out to her. Last night,
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Speaker 2: he had a perfect example to meet her and didn't
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Speaker 2: meet her on the front row. And then so afterwards
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Speaker 2: Ms Ronda comes up to me. He says, I'm with you.
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Speaker 2: We're going to get this thing. And so those are
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Speaker 2: things that we're seeing, is that when you talk about
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Speaker 2: the gentrification or when you talk about these housing policies,
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Speaker 2: it ultimately leads to concentrated crime, and that is leaving
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Speaker 2: victims at the hands of all these criminals. And that's
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Speaker 2: what we've got to stop. It's basically a trickle down
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Speaker 2: in competence from the top down.
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Speaker 1: Well, and based on his comments last night, you think
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Speaker 1: Mary have to have Provoll was the best friend of
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Speaker 1: the police departments all we've worked together. We're busy doing
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Speaker 1: this and that we're going to hire more police officers.
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Speaker 1: But you pointed out an excellent point, and he has
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Speaker 1: been very reactive as opposed to proactive when it comes
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Speaker 1: to policing. What happens. We have Sarah Herringer's husband stab,
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Speaker 1: the death in their apartment and over the rhine that
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Speaker 1: through tremendous outrage. That's when we found out that no,
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Speaker 1: they're not monitoring ankle bracelets out in the world. And
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Speaker 1: behold then of course she had the late July beat down. Holly.
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Speaker 1: We all saw the video and I've talked to her
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Speaker 1: and had her on the program. You've met her and
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Speaker 1: talked to her.
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Speaker 2: He was the night she was good. The mayor failed
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Speaker 2: to talk with her last night. We had ample opportunity
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Speaker 2: before and after to speak with multiple individuals in the room,
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Speaker 2: and he did not speak with any of those victims.
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Speaker 2: Die and Buy It on the front row last night.
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Speaker 1: And we made it to the national stage for that incident,
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Speaker 1: which prompted him to do what implement curfew enforcement at
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Speaker 1: least pay lip service to it in certain neighborhoods, improved
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Speaker 1: policing in certain neighborhoods, and a cry to hire more
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Speaker 1: police officers. All of this was in reaction to the
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Speaker 1: post national headlines. What had he done prior to that, though,
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Speaker 1: is really what I'm wondering, especially since he hired on
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Speaker 1: Iris Rowley as a very well paid consultant who is
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Speaker 1: nothing but an apparently an agitator who actually interferes with
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Speaker 1: police doing their work.
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Speaker 2: One thing they kept saying last night on the other
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Speaker 2: side is that Corey doesn't know what he's doing, and
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Speaker 2: that came right back and said, you didn't get the
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Speaker 2: endorsement of FOP. I got the FOP. I think they
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Speaker 2: know what they're doing, and then you didn't actually get
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Speaker 2: this just came out that he didn't get the endorsement
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Speaker 2: from the fire department either, and I believe that they
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Speaker 2: know what they're doing as well. So I think the
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Speaker 2: ultimate thing is that maybe after four years of being
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Speaker 2: in office, he doesn't know what he's doing. And that's
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Speaker 2: what we've got to bring to the table, because not
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Speaker 2: only just these professionals of public safety, but we cannot
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Speaker 2: forget the victims. The people that have been most affected
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Speaker 2: are the people like the Sarah Heringers, the Rohnda Wins,
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Speaker 2: the mother of Krishanda Win. You got to talk about
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Speaker 2: Holly who got beat She was one of the many
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Speaker 2: people that night that was trying to stop the violence.
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Speaker 2: She wasn't trying to instigate it, and she gets beat down,
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Speaker 2: and that's unacceptable in a major city in America. And
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Speaker 2: so we can talk about the staffs, the policy all
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Speaker 2: we want, but ultimately, if we fail to recognize the
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Speaker 2: victims and the people that have seen the consequences of
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Speaker 2: these all seas, then we're forgetting what it's all about.
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Speaker 1: And one final topic that was addressed toward the end,
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Speaker 1: I guess you're a hell no on increasing the income tax,
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Speaker 1: although after have provol welcomes an increase in income tax
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Speaker 1: apparently because he said, need to bring in money if
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Speaker 1: you want to accomplish what we want to do. Another
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Speaker 1: red flag. If you want to improve the desirability of
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Speaker 1: living in the city of Cincinnati, raising taxes is not
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Speaker 1: the right way to go from my perspective, Corey, your take.
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Speaker 2: Now, I had another guest last night. Her name was Taniqua,
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Speaker 2: and she is actually a business owner, Black business owner
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Speaker 2: woman in the city and very successful. But what she
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Speaker 2: told me was that when she was down on her luck,
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Speaker 2: she went through slum lord after slum lord, and she
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Speaker 2: was getting abused, she was getting taken advantage of. And
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Speaker 2: this is her and her children that were in terrible
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Speaker 2: living situations, and all these slum lords were funded by
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Speaker 2: the city. Well, then she buys her own property and
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Speaker 2: she's now a homeowner, and she's a renter now renter,
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Speaker 2: but she's a landlord. And she's told me that ever
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Speaker 2: since she's done this, she has felt demonized or basically
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Speaker 2: felt like that she's guilty for being successful because she
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Speaker 2: has to pay into more fees, more taxes, more everything.
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Speaker 2: So that's the system that we're under right now, is
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Speaker 2: that we incentivize rendership, we incentivize being reliant on the government.
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Speaker 2: But if you want to have a successful business, if
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Speaker 2: you want to be a property owner, if you want
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Speaker 2: to own a single family home in the city, then
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Speaker 2: you are basically treated as the bad guy. And what
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Speaker 2: do you think those policies are going to do. The
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Speaker 2: taxes have to come from somewhere. The taxes have to
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Speaker 2: come from business, they have to come from property, they
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Speaker 2: have to come from income. And the thing is is
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Speaker 2: that if the taxes aren't coming from that or even
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Speaker 2: the earning tax, people are going to stop spending their
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Speaker 2: money in Cincinnati. And then all of a sudden, you're
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Speaker 2: going to be left with a lot of people that
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Speaker 2: will rely on the government in renting, but they're not
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Speaker 2: going to be able to step out of that, and
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Speaker 2: you're going to leave the city worse and worse and
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Speaker 2: worse and more of a despicit. They're going to have
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Speaker 2: less money on the books, and it's just not going
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Speaker 2: to do well for the future days of Cincinnati.
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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman sounds me like you have a good recipe
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Speaker 1: for success as mayor of the City of Cincinnati. It
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Speaker 1: doesn't bother me a whit that you haven't held political
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Speaker 1: office before. Everybody starts somewhere. You're surrounded by good people.
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Speaker 1: I know you've got great ideas for who the city
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Speaker 1: manager might be. Hopefully you get a Steve Gooden, and
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Speaker 1: I had Christopher Smithman and Liz Keating along with you.
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Speaker 1: There are options, are our choices. You can start voting
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Speaker 1: and you maybe should have already twenty five days and
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Speaker 1: eleven hours left. Corey Bowman, You're always welcome here on
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Speaker 1: the morning show. Continued to wish for success for you
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Speaker 1: and your campaign, and another encouragement my listeners head on
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Speaker 1: over to Corey Bowman dot com to maybe help you out.
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Speaker 1: Take care of my friend. Have a wonderful weekend. I
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Speaker 1: know we'll talk again real soon, Brian.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, having an amazing weekend.
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Speaker 1: Thanks brother. Hey fifty five fifty five KR City Talk
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