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Episode 297: The Shrine (SG-A 5.06) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Get into Gate, episode two hundred and ninety seven. Jesus Christ, Matthew, Yep,
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  Speaker 1: like this, we're this close. It sounds like a long
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  Speaker 1: time that we've been doing this podcast in a while.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't. It sound like a long time. It's been
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  Speaker 2: a long time.
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  Speaker 1: Because it has. We get asked a couple of weeks
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  Speaker 1: ago how long we've been doing it. We just pasted
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  Speaker 1: a like looked into the ether, went July twenty sixteen.
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  Speaker 1: Like a lot has happened in that time. The world
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  Speaker 1: has changed.
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  Speaker 2: Two kids or three?
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  Speaker 1: I had two barely I mean he was he was
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  Speaker 1: one and change so like he was, you know, barely mobile.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Neve doubled that mm hmmm, and then Reese
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  Speaker 3: went from zero to two.
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  Speaker 4: You've had sex two times and ten years.
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  Speaker 3: Well with his wife anyway, with Brendan, that number is
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  Speaker 3: a lot higher.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what since then or before or all the time?
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's true.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot about the the ex finishing.
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  Speaker 3: I wonder how many times if there was a tally,
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  Speaker 3: how many times you've had sex with your wife, as is,
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  Speaker 3: how many times you've had sex with Brendan. I wonder
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  Speaker 3: which number would be higher? Right, I mean you've known
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  Speaker 3: Brendan longer obviously, Yeah, but do you live with your wife?
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  Speaker 1: It's unskewed. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, yeah, Look, we'll do
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  Speaker 1: the math off air. And if this was radio and
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  Speaker 1: we were being judged on our standards here, what we
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  Speaker 1: have done is poor radio because we've been talking. Jacob's
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  Speaker 1: chimed in and we haven't referred to who this person is,
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  Speaker 1: who's not a regular?
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  Speaker 2: What's this week stuff? Mate? You're the anchor, you're the host.
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  Speaker 1: You're right, Actually I would I should be practicing. I'll
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  Speaker 1: use this podcast to practice for my radio career, and
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  Speaker 1: he's my radio career to practice for my podcast. So
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  Speaker 1: here we go. We're talking at Stargate Atlantis and joining
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  Speaker 1: us once again after a week well like immigrations like
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: customs detention or something, because you've got to get your
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  Speaker 1: visa sorted out where you also had to have sex
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  Speaker 1: with Brennan but.
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  Speaker 2: It was just a security guard.
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  Speaker 1: Brendan. Yeah, Jacob and Allen, how are you guys? Thank you,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for coming back before you depart our fair Shores
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  Speaker 1: to go back home, come back in and talk about
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  Speaker 1: some more Stargate Atlantis.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, go back to whatever that message you've got
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  Speaker 2: gone on over there.
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  Speaker 1: What are we talking about? The shrine?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, fun fact episode two hundred ninety seven of
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  Speaker 3: our podcast, episode three hundred of the Stargate franchise.
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  Speaker 4: Oh god, damn, oh so close? Will it line up
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  Speaker 4: at some point?
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  Speaker 1: No, it can't. And like that. You know, we've had
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  Speaker 1: a usually with some of the with the specials. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we've not numbered them because we like to just keep
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  Speaker 1: the numbered for the actual episodes. But had we not
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  Speaker 1: have done that and we had numbered them to allow
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  Speaker 1: this to line up, we wouldn't have had the line
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  Speaker 1: in the past because.
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  Speaker 3: We've combined all the two parts and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 3: And then I was really really hoping that the mid
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  Speaker 3: season two parter a First Contact and the Lost Tribe
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  Speaker 3: was going to be our three hundred episode. But it's
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  Speaker 3: going to be our three hundred and first episode.
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  Speaker 5: By this much.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, let's see what the Shrine's about? Then, While
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  Speaker 1: on a rescue mission to another planet, what did they
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  Speaker 1: do that in this show, Doctor Rodney McKay falls fatally
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  Speaker 1: ill and his sister Jenny is summoned from Earth to
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: say her final goodbyes.
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  Speaker 2: Oh so glad we don't read the synapsis yeah right.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, because we don't have the DVD, we just jump
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  Speaker 5: right into the episode.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they accused me of spoilers the other day.
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  Speaker 5: You did spoil it the other day.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So we were trying to because you guys skipped
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  Speaker 3: something at the end of last season.
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  Speaker 2: What did you guys actually skip it was?
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  Speaker 3: Was that horrible Replicator episode I remembered with the girl Replicator.
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  Speaker 2: That ended up in the Thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yes and the Matrix?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: I told skiped that episode, doesn't it?
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  Speaker 3: And then we were gonna skip the seed and then
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  Speaker 3: I realized that they needed to watch it for the
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  Speaker 3: whole wolzy thing. And then I was like, ah, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he could probably skip Broken Ties if you want. Like
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  Speaker 3: Ronan just gets like he gets brainwashed, and they'll like spoil.
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  Speaker 4: At and I'm like, that's a major plot point.
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  Speaker 5: Pretty well.
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  Speaker 3: It's like some people haven't been brainwashed, like Ryak's been brainwashed,
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  Speaker 3: Heelk's been brained.
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  Speaker 5: But like during the episode, they like toggle the audience
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  Speaker 5: back and forth of like, oh, he is so strong,
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  Speaker 5: that's part of the reason the Wraith want him. Is
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  Speaker 5: he even gonna get brainwashed? Is he faking it? But
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  Speaker 5: since you had said, oh, he gets brainwashed nonchalant, we're like, okay.
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  Speaker 4: If I did, he does, get me know that he
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  Speaker 4: got brainwashed, because I'm pretty much a first time right,
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  Speaker 4: so I didn't remember. If I didn't know he got brainwashed,
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  Speaker 4: I probably would have been like, oh, yeah, he's just
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  Speaker 4: like faking and there he's gonna psych out the Wraith
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  Speaker 4: and kill him at some sick moment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But since we like that could have also been like
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  Speaker 3: the plot is these getting brainwashed, he could get pretending
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  Speaker 3: to be brainwashed, is still brainwashed?
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  Speaker 4: But you said he gets yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But but I feel like a biggest spoiler would have
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  Speaker 3: been like, oh, he pretends to be brainwashed.
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  Speaker 2: Like that, that's a spoiler.
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  Speaker 5: Killing somebody and pretending to kill somebody are two very
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  Speaker 5: different things.
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  Speaker 4: You're cooling right now, you're trying to not admit responsibility.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't think it was that big of a spoiler.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's just you always toe that line that's like,
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  Speaker 5: oh it could be its spoiler could not be one,
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  Speaker 5: and I think that one was. Yet it was.
• 5:22
  Speaker 1: It is like it's such a weird climate at the
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  Speaker 1: moment you think, like, I mean back to when YouTube
• 5:27
  Speaker 1: were children. Maddie and I were a lot older, but
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  Speaker 1: like with with trailers, and we didn't have adundants of
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  Speaker 1: knowledge and stuff. Yeah, like you could pump chaut a
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  Speaker 1: trailer and not give it a lot away, but at
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  Speaker 1: the same time you would know things, whereas now if
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: anything comes out, people are freaking the hell out about
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  Speaker 1: Like even weeks and weeks ago when they were filming
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  Speaker 1: Spider Man those first couple of days and actually had
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  Speaker 1: him out in the suit, a real guy, real stunt man,
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  Speaker 1: swinging off wires and shit, and then they got him
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  Speaker 1: on top of the Punisher van and stuff. Like I
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  Speaker 1: like when productions actually come out and on the front
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  Speaker 1: foot go yeah, this is happening, because then it can't
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  Speaker 1: be deemed a spoiler or a scooper or something that's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is out there, and then you go, okay, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to think of it as a spoiler
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  Speaker 1: when I see it again and again and again, because
• 6:09
  Speaker 1: they're allowing me to see it. Like everything's a spoiler
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  Speaker 1: these days. Like I just I did a review recently
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  Speaker 1: and I said, I'm going to talk spoilers for one second,
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  Speaker 1: because it was essentially a non spoiler review. Did it
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  Speaker 1: for like twenty seconds, and then afterwards I shared like
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  Speaker 1: a lot of other story beats along the way, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, this isn't a spoiler, this is just
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  Speaker 1: telling you how a narrative moves. But you just, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you've got to be so careful and Maddie, look, I
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  Speaker 1: agree with you, but also agree with the look because
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  Speaker 1: I've been on the end of a not to spoil
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  Speaker 1: anything for Reese or not to spoil anything for Mitch,
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  Speaker 1: and then there's a there's a spoiler, and I'm like, yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 3: I'd still want a super cut of all the things
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  Speaker 3: that I've apparently spoiled. I don't know, Well, he's a
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  Speaker 3: learning moment. He's a learning moment. So maybe it's just
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  Speaker 3: my Australian laziness where I just maybe maybe I should
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  Speaker 3: have said they try to brainwash Ronan.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, if you have said that, then.
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  Speaker 4: Ronan gets captured by the wreath, Like.
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  Speaker 3: But he doesn't get captured by the race yet, he gets.
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  Speaker 4: I guess Ronan gets captured Like that's the setup, you know,
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  Speaker 4: that's not what happens.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, but Ronan gets captured. That could be four
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  Speaker 3: different episodes.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you're very familiar with synopsis, being like.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm not with season four and five. That's what
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying. So he's the official synopsis.
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  Speaker 4: If you would have let me finish, I would you know?
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  Speaker 4: Like the synopsis are also always like very occasionally very vague.
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  Speaker 4: They're like, of course, now I can't think of an exam.
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  Speaker 3: Well, okay, so here's the official synopsis for Broken Tires.
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  Speaker 3: How would you have felt if I had said, instead
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  Speaker 3: of oh, it's one where Roni gets brainwashed?
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  Speaker 2: How would you feel if I.
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  Speaker 3: Said, Ronan is captured by his former friend Tire, I
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  Speaker 3: feel like that's a spoiler and turned over to the Wraith.
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  Speaker 3: As the team scrambles for leads, Ronan undergoes a torturous ordeal.
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  Speaker 4: How about tortures is less spoilery than brainwashing?
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  Speaker 5: Stuff about Tire is a big It's like, I just
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  Speaker 5: want to I just want to forget how I, you know,
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  Speaker 5: tell an episode whether it's worthy.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to give you guys information to determine whether
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  Speaker 3: it's worth skipping on.
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  Speaker 4: I get what I get, I get that, and it
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  Speaker 4: was just it was just borderline.
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  Speaker 3: Also, you guys could have done your own homework before
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  Speaker 3: you got here, so I didn't have to not rewatch them.
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  Speaker 2: If I want a victim blame.
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  Speaker 1: Sounds like he does.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think? What do you think?
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, guys, it's Daniel. He's uncontrolled, and I apologize. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I don't I don't read synopsis either. I
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  Speaker 1: do have the DVDs, but I just sort of like
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: disk in press play, don't look at anything, trying to
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: even look at thumbnaim. Yeah, just get it in. Get
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know that it's the same as it's ever been. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're not We're not twitching these things around. Yeah, so I.
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  Speaker 2: Act break every four minutes.
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  Speaker 1: And a title like the Shrine doesn't give anything away either.
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  Speaker 1: The deadalist variations from a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: well your pinpointing me at least a location, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the Shrine.
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  Speaker 3: Apparently the title was originally going to be whatever they
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  Speaker 3: call it in the episode, the Shrine of Okay ran
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  Speaker 3: a Support or whatever, but they couldn't get it past legal.
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  Speaker 4: And then the working title was the short Puddle Jumper.
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  Speaker 2: Oh damn like that. Yeah, that's I could work.
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  Speaker 1: I could roll with that as an option.
• 9:34
  Speaker 5: It's like the kitty cat, the kitty cat city cat thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, did you know about that much?
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  Speaker 1: The kitty cats the smaller ones.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, my first introduction over the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we were famously very against public transport, so.
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  Speaker 3: Not a city cat. I've decided that on my days
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  Speaker 3: off on the weekend, I'm just going to be that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to be that what to call it in
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  Speaker 3: the anorak that just goes and watches the trains. I'm
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  Speaker 3: just going to go sit on the city cat for
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  Speaker 3: fifty cents and just ride it up and down the river.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that's a day mate.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then Will and Jacob found there's like an app
• 10:03
  Speaker 3: where you can track them to find out which one
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: is the bluey and Bingo one.
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so I might just do that.
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. We love our river here in Brisbone, so
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: we can we can theme up. Are they still ones
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: that headed to our sporting teams that used to be
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago.
• 10:17
  Speaker 3: I only saw they're all named after like the indigenous lands.
• 10:20
  Speaker 3: So there's the me engine, tugger all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: That's the question I meant to ask you. We can
• 10:26
  Speaker 3: ask remember when Susie was here and she had the bell, Yes,
• 10:30
  Speaker 3: was that from a city cat? Was that from one
• 10:32
  Speaker 3: down in Sydney? In Sydney, right, Okay, it was more
• 10:35
  Speaker 3: of a faery than she had a fairy named after
• 10:38
  Speaker 3: her called the Susi O'Neil and had the big bell.
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the captains And then when they decommissioned the
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: boat and they were going to like pull it apart,
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: we brought the bell up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then she took it with her when she retired.
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: And she retired from the show, and she took the bell,
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  Speaker 1: and now it's sitting in her house.
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  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what she's doing with it,
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: but anyway.
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: Probably like, uh, okay, what's the what's the chick from
• 11:00
  Speaker 3: a Lord of the Rings with the dark hairs?
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: Say so many, but it really is Tyler or Miranda
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: Otto expanded the Hobbit and lyft Tyler.
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  Speaker 3: Her entire, like attic is just full of a Lord
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: of the Rings gear, Like she's got her sword and
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: she's got all the toys and stuff.
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: Jesus, she's probably.
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  Speaker 3: Gonna sell it when she has a couple of bad
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  Speaker 3: years with.
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  Speaker 2: That much work or something.
• 11:26
  Speaker 4: There is a massive, massive mistake with the setup of
• 11:29
  Speaker 4: this episode. Oh is it the.
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: One I call it?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, I'm read, I'm okay. Yeah, well so the episode starts.
• 11:40
  Speaker 5: First of all, I like how it starts. They just
• 11:42
  Speaker 5: jump right into that video Mackay Records, which is usually
• 11:45
  Speaker 5: they do that big you know, shot of Atlantis the
• 11:48
  Speaker 5: c G I and but I like it just jumped in.
• 11:50
  Speaker 4: But she thought it skipped because it so usually does
• 11:54
  Speaker 4: in the music. But for this one was just like
• 11:57
  Speaker 4: harm rod.
• 11:58
  Speaker 3: You know, It's like it was a little bit Franks
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: and Beans, wasn't it. Oh, you guys wouldn't get that, Mitch,
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: you know that one? Yeah, Age, calm down, calm down.
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: O'Neill.
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: Were you were you born in this millennia?
• 12:11
  Speaker 5: Two thousand barely? Yeah, going right on?
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, is it is a movie from before your time?
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: Then yeah, we're we can watch. They're also here for
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: star Gate.
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: I haven't clearly watched one of the more iconic comedies
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: of all.
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: They were also here for star Gate. They started in
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: nineteen ninety seven. Yeah, like you know, yeah, and how
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: I'm forty fifty cheese.
• 12:31
  Speaker 5: I said, like I didn't say zack.
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: Damn you Americans like the word, Like, yeah, you're a
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: valley girl like, s right, you going go on fun girl?
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: Oh you're failing.
• 12:44
  Speaker 5: But yeah, So the first mission that they go on
• 12:47
  Speaker 5: to rescue that other team of you know, non essentials
• 12:49
  Speaker 5: that you know whatever Shepherd, yeh, He's like, oh, don't
• 12:53
  Speaker 5: drop the shield of the gate because you don't want
• 12:55
  Speaker 5: to flood the gate room. And I thought we learned
• 12:57
  Speaker 5: an SG one that the gate won't let.
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: Water in water in water Gate water Gate.
• 13:03
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I don't remember episode, but like, so was
• 13:06
  Speaker 5: that just a miss that was slightly.
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: Talk that was slightly different water though, wasn't it that
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: was like a live water water?
• 13:11
  Speaker 4: Which makes it even more likely that it would go
• 13:13
  Speaker 4: through because the game like it has a filter for.
• 13:15
  Speaker 3: Life, because I'm on that same premise. Wouldn't it also
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: be like, well, anytime you open a super gate, it's
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: just going to create a vacuum sucking all the out.
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: Of Atlantas in Brad we trust because on that right,
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: So like for me like not again not knowing what
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: this episode was, but then I see Brad right directly,
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: I wrote it, Oh, okay, ship, this is Brad. He's
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: stepping up and got one of the main credits, which
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: makes sense.
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: That it's the three other episode, so the back for it.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but then as it's going now again, like I
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: send to you guys during the Daedalus variations and any
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: episode like it where you're like, they're probably gonna survive this.
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: But like at the same time, in hindsight, knowing that
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: this is the final season and where what fifteen episodes
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: away from the end of Atlantis, and you've got Rodney
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: who's on his way out in this episode seemingly you've
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: got Brad right writing the script. Shit, do you bring
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: on one of the like key creators this entire franchise
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: to kill off one of the main characters, Like, I
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna happen.
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: Just started inn SG one, Yeah, like the only character
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: that started.
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's episode six, but ship like this might be happening.
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: I needed to actually get prepared for it.
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: So yeah.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: But yeah, on the on the gate technology, Yeah, my
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: first thought was, yeah, why didn't they just swim through?
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: Well they could have. I don't think they would have
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: needed to unless Atlantis.
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: Okay, see, it would have probably created so much water
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: pressure that it would have been dangerous because even just
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: keeping the gate open for like five seconds, which would
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: be enough for them to swim through. Would have probably
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: dumped tons and tons and tons of water through that.
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: It would have been dangerous.
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: But wouldn't the gate know that it's water? In the
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: same way, when a puddle jumper goes through a space
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: s gate, it doesn't suck through the void of space.
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: When it comes through, it would not. And Pegasu's skates
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: are older than Milky Way gates, and we know that
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: Milky Way gates.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: Have done the other way around?
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: Is that true? Mm hmm, okay, well you can make
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: me look like not.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: An I.
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: Know. It's confusing though.
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: It shouldn't have been a problem.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because then the flip side is they say, no,
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: we can't come through.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: You have to send us a puddle jump.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: We have to wait thirty eight minutes for the gate
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: to shut down, that you have to send us a
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: puddle jumper to save us. But then the team walks
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: back through the gate holding ply they.
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: Went to another they just got in the puddle jumper. Yeah,
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: then they gated to a different planet where they could
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: just walk.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: But that seems like an extra step because Woolsey asks them,
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: where's your jumper? And he says we left it on
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: the planet to search for the other team because the
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: other note what the other no name team still hadn't
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: been found. So it feels like when Rodney's passed out
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: and it's a medical emergency, it seems like an unnecessary
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: step to then gate to another third planet and then
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: gate home.
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: But maybe they did because they color says how long
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: has he been out? And they said about nine hours?
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: So they did that for nine hours.
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: When carries him men Keller puts him on the gurney
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: and he's like, how long has he been unconscious? And
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: they said about nine hours?
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: Right, So yeah, so there's something missing. Maybe some scenes
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: got cut. There was no audio commentary for this episode,
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: so yeah, I don't I don't have any sort of
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: behind the scenes knowledge for this one. Huh yeah, nine hours.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: I went.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: I mean maybe they picked him up in the puddle
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: Jumpert and then they started searching for the other team
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: and we're doing that. But yeah, again, maybe in that
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: nine hours that water receded.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Even in the like opening minutes of them on top
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: of the gate, Shepherd like as it's sort of like
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: zoomed out and we got to see, you know, the
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: glacier and all that of the stuff. He goes, oh,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: look the waters went down a little bit.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: That was okay, maybe in nine hours the water dissipated then, yeah.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: But still just needed the puddle jumper to stay warm overnight.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: I was just trying to remember them saying that.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was trying to figure how they got back.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: And something that I thought was cool though, is when
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: they are all sitting on top of the gate, specifically
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: during the line when Taylor is asking about doctor Nichols
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: or whoever the no name team are that we never
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: get any resolution on. If you look in the foreground
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: from the light coming through the active puddle, you see
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: a little starfish like floating.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: In the water.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: And then obviously when the parasite comes out of Rodney's
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: brain and they flick it on the ground, it kind
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: of looks like a staff fish.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: That feels important.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's obviously one of those things must have
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: crawled in Rodney's ear or something like that while he
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: was in the water, and that's why he had that
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: immediate reaction. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because those things are
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: just native in there and just and just got washed
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: through and one.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Well even just it's the idea like it's been frozen
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: and whatnot. Like you know, the occasionally there'll be you know,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: a meme that will go around or a story that says, oh,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: you know that there's been some type of organism that's
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: been frozen in the Antarctic for you know, the last
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: forty thousand years and scientists are thawing it out, you know.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Roup chats have they not seen enough Star?
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like have they not seen this episode? They're not
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: seen this movie.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: The Frozen Ancient in season six and frozen that sort.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Of ship, right, It's like, you know, and how they
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: not seen enough sci fi to go maybe maybe just
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: leave it, you know. So yeah, maybe it was maybe
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: something that had been frozen around long enough that could
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: have made it just that much more deadly. But on
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: that with like the water coming in and out, my
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: first thought was when the you know how many times
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: SG one coming back from a mission and they're being
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: fired upon by the Gold or the Jafar or whatever,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: and you actually see like the debris, right.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Like dust and stuff that are floating through so stuff lusts.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what in my head, whether
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I'd separated that being like an energy thing as.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Opposed to like energy vesus matter, Yeah, matter.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Organic sort of stuff, but anyway, yeah, it's interesting, Like
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: but yeah, that just presented like a whole new problem.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: And I was sitting there watching it and the whole
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Woolsey thing go, hey, I'm just gonna go I reckon,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I've go enough time to go down and get some food,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, where's this going? What are we doing?
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Like she didn't look like she was gonna have any
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: lines to say, and I'm like, are you funny enough
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: to hold this debt? Like you are? But I think
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: because Woolsey's so annoying, And then just on the one
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: tracking shot and following yeah, I'll be back in twenty minutes,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: and then for the gate to die back, and I'm like, oh,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: that's just the show obviously, how quick all this sort
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: of happened. So I liked it the way that that's
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: that all welled out.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: But I do feel like that that whole thing Woolsey said,
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: if you played that at like three time speed, I
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: feel like that's like your inner monologue on a day said,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: I've got that?
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Do I have time for lunch?
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: It's live to be honest, like I was trying to
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: explain something to Sarah the other day, and I think
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: she's working a normal adult level, you know, mentality, and
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: she knew what was going to happen one outcome or another.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: But I'm having to Like, she's like, why don't you
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: just say that? I'm like, because I had to get
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: there in real time, Like I have to. I have to. Yeah,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I have to think about this. Missus.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Brain works in long division, not short division. He's got
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: to show his work.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: But other times I can just like, you can ask
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: me a question and then I will give you like
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: seventeen different outcomes and you can be like, why don't
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: you just give me one? I'm like, because these are
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: all the possibilities. Yeah, Like no, bro, So you know,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: I just I don't pick my battles very well. So
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: very Rodney McKay, thank you.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the highest compliment you've ever given them.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I remember why, I'll take you know what. I will
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: take that.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: And you get Keller, you know, you get a.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Like in this episode where he's like, hey, we're practically dated,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, because you've got a thing
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: going on. She has you brought me one beer and
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, hang on, what have we been a
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: shuming Yeah, because that was almost like, hey, this is
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: the thing, we're going to show you the rest of it.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: We're just kind of insinuate. But oh yeah, that says
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: to him in front of no one else, you brought
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: me a beer once, like let's not get ahead of ourselves.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: And then at the end, she's watching that video where
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: he's saying like I love you, and she's she had
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: her own issue with some flooding.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: At that point, I think.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: Well, he says too, like I've loved you for some time.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: So I'm like one of those overlap with that plant nerds.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we've all forgotten she has, Like I just.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: Remember her voice, like it's so distinctively yeah and hi.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like she's related to the one of the girlfriends
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: off the Big Bang Theory, just.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Like, oh yeah Bernadette, yeah sure, yeah, yeah, I love that.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I hate that.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: I know that.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I hate that. You do too big credit to you.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: You're wearing a T shirt. I would have known what
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: that was until a couple of weeks ago. And because
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: my wife is doing a binge watch of the Gilmore
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Girls for the first and not the Gilmore Girl. Sorry
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls for the first time. I understand that reference.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Do you know.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: I said something the other days We're home and Jacob said,
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: dropped the the and I went, oh, fantastic, Gilmore Girl's
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: reference and he's like, that was from.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: The Social networks. It was god damn it.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: And they did it first too, Gilmour.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, the social network Yeah really whatever.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think so that was twenty ten. That movie
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: came out in twenty ten.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well it was only in the year in the life.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: You're in life, oh ship, Yeah, they definitely still yeah,
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Rory rights.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Rory writes a spoiler alert for that role.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Amy Sharon Palladino likes to steal from Aaron. Yeah, I
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: was Aaron what's his name Fincher? Aaron Fincher, Aaron Sorkin, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: She also ships on the well she also ships on
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: the MCU in that as well, which isn't great.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: Oh right, it's gotta be one by now. Yeah, go
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: for well. I thought the Wallsy thing in this episode
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: where he was talking about his dad who had the homersis.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: No, I'll tell you what, because we throw around, you know,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: the case of the Tis. Yeah, the hivvy yeah, yeah,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I never heard that the Heimers. Hell yeah, what's wrong
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: with that? Don't be embarrassed. It's fine.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: I thought for this episode it felt force because he'd
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: done similar things in the previous episodes where he tries
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: to relate with the dog.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so it.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: Just having, I mean, on its own, nice moment for
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: him to be like, listen, I've experienced something similar to this. Yeah,
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: I you know, I know what this must mean for you.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: But it's risky. So that's nice. But also on the
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: tail of these other moments, it's starting to feel like
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: the Cameron Mitchell thing where it's forced character.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Expert trying to Yeah, they're trying to buy back Wolsey
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: too quickly, they're trying to soften him.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: That's like what I was.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm still not. I still haven't forgiven him for
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: the whole KLK thing, you.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Know what I mean?
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Janet, Janet, Yeah, all that kind of stuff, Like, yeah,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: so that's why I have it. Each big issue with
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: season five is I understand like they didn't have a
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: lot to when when Amanda said mic drop, they didn't
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: have a lot of options. They could have bought We're back,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: you know, But yeah, I just yeah, I have an
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: issue with with Woolsey. I did think something that was
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: interesting though, is that Keller was actually the first one
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: to say no to the shrine before it even got
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: to Woolsey. Like when when Ronan had brought it up,
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Keller was the first one to say uh, Like, didn't
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: even have to go to Woolsey before him to say no.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Keller was just like, no, you made a.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Remark about that.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: I did, Yeah, because I well, we don't know if
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: she saw that video yet or if she had not
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: seen it at that time of him saying I love
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: you well, because that was ten oh yeah that's the recording. Yeah,
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: I mean we comment to Jacob when we're watching. I
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: was like, Keller seems well, first of all, new haircut,
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: but also she seems I notice.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: That her hair. Yeah, there was one shot in particular
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my, oh you look stunning.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Okay that or Mary Elizabeth Winstead in her prime?
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: What are you choosing both?
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: She had my heart first?
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, okay, Keller in this episode or Mary
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Elizabeth Winstead in her prime, but they're both dressed like
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Laryen from from a few episodes ago. Your favorite, Your
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: favorite travel instead instead Winstead in that outfit.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: See you you criticized me for being a pig mate, But.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm fully the trough in this situation.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: I've got no issue with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: That's your middle name, Maddie the Trough.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Maddie the Trough. Sorry, keep going, keep going.
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: Well, Trough. And then like last last episode we were here,
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: you were saying, oh, maybe I am a free so yeah.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: You don't have yours on this week.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I know what you're talking about, Buck or Winnie.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: There was a really interesting synthesizer pad in this Did
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: you notice it? It was like it would just like
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: come in when they would switch the time, like from
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: like from telling the past to telling the president even
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: for the past, and there was just like this synthesizer.
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: Whoa, oh really I made a comment on that.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Like you miaged the audio nerds.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we'll touch back on that in a second,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: because it's one I picked up to me.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: It sounded very starget universe sounded like a lot. So
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: I wonder if this was when Joel Goldsmith started to
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: experiment with that sort.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Of style of it.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: It could be Okay, So I got two bits of
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: trivia for you on that one, I'll getna that's one
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: for this from the other one. In the final season
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: of Star Trek Voyager, in about the third to last season,
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: like they have their go to chirp sound for when
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: they tap their combadge and open up communications, and in
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: like the third to last episode, someone taps their combadge
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: and it plays the chirp sound from the series that
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: came out after that called Enterprise, which was actually a
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: prequel set like two hundred years previous, and it bugs
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: me to no end every time I hear it. But
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: the other bit of trivia that's not going to get
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: to me, that's one that is pertinent to this episode
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: is the Lenka is credited in this episode.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: David Nickel.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: He's credited in this episode, but he doesn't appear because
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: all his scenes were cut. One of the scenes that
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: was cut was him and Rodney arguing about the ninth chevron.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: In the Stargate.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Yes, so they argued about what the possible use of
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: a ninth chevron could.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Be, which is a setup. Mitch. This is it's not
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: really a spoiler for you, but this is.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: What Stargate Universe explores because obviously SG one, it's always
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: been a seven chevron address. Yeah, we find out to
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: get to Atlantis, to get to a different galaxy, it's
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: an eight chevron address. But a natural stargate has nine
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: chevrons on it, and we've never explored that. So that's
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: what Universe is about, discovering a nine chevron address.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I wonder why about like, obviously, was it just a
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: visual point, like if they were at even places around
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: well the gate, it's like so like, I guy, So
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: when you look at it now, as we know, is
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: a full ring. They're evenly spaced. But if they were
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: to only have seven, because we only ever use seven
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: and SG one in the movie, we wouldn't see a
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: couple of them under the ramp or whatever.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Yes, or in the concrete.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there think we need to be able to see
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: all seven. But if they're going to we're going to
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: see all seven. It would be weird if they just
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: it was empty under that, So let's just have it nine.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: But they never they never planned on using that back
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: in the movie. You never planned on using that back
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: in seasons one through four, it was.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: It was six points in space and a point of origin.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but then I wonder when when they go to
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Atlantis and they go, well, why don't we used to
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: get to another galaxy? Why don't we use the spare chevrons?
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Why not? Why not have an extra two? But I
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: guess if they've got point of origin destination and then
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: the also the eighth one.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: I imagine as an extra distance vector calculation. Yeah, I
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: mean it's an extra level of precision there.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: For the use. They've never used it, and then it
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: just makes once once they get to this point, Like
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: in hindsight, it looks amazing because they get to this
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: point where it's like, oh, well.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that they've been planning it since nineteen ninety seven.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: But also in Atlantis, because now we have space gates,
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: you see the nine chevrons more often. So I feel
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: like it's almost that's right present in the writer's minds
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: where they're like.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: We need to figure out why there's a ninth chevron
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: that we've never.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: Used, Yeah, because there's nothing blocking that.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: But I actually like what you brought up about Selenka
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: because actually I think there is one scene with him
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: in it. I noticed it because it's a scene in
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: the I guess the gateroom gateroom equivalent in Atlantis, and
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: Solenka's coming down the stairs, so it's back to where
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: the camera so we don't see his face. And I
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: thought that was weird because you know, McKay had all
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: these moments where he's saying goodbye to everybody, he references
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: them in the video he does it was Linka.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: So yeah, so maybe they've cut there's the Linka part
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: and just kept the tail end of that scene or something.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because we go down and I was like, oh,
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: you have a moment and then he never did.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: But going way, way, way, way way back to Keller
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: when we were talking about her haircun and then we
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: went oh, yeah, yeah that kind of thing. I thought
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: it was kind of weird, like this is we were
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: talking about it when we were watching the episode, and
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: she had this weird sort of attitude around everything going
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: on with McKay, kind of like what do we What
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: was the thing? I said, So she had a weird
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: sort of like possession.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: I think you retroactively say, oh, it's because they kind
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: of got a thing going on.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, she clearly, yes, she clearly has an emotional attachment,
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: because we find it at the end. He has the
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: thing where he talks about like he confesses his feelings
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: towards her. But I think there's also a professional element
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: to it as well, because there's one point where you know,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: she she basically says, she's like, well, if we go
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: to the shrine, we've given up on saving Rodney. He
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: gets one day and then he dies, and she's like,
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: I'm not willing to give up on finding as I
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: think she has that conversation with Jeanie where she's like,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: I'm not ready to give up on finding a solution
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: to this yet.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: But Genie's the.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: One that says, hey, you said yourself, he's only got
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: like three days left.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is weird.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: They never even I don't think they even brought up
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: the idea of just like castening him and just like throwing.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: They mentioned that the parasite did not slow down in stasis.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Oh brilliant.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: Okay, you got yourselves out of that one. But yeah,
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: it's kind of reminiscent of Fraser and the times where
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: she would pull the hippocratic oath and it would piss
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: off Brendan and Reese, especially where he was like, come on,
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: your doctor, Mike, and then she was like, but.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but at the end of the day, she's a doctor.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: So then I wonder if this whole episode, I'm gonna
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: get a little nerdy. I one of this whole episode
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: is like a whole metaphor for terminal lucidity. Do you
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: guys know what that is? So with people with dementia
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: or just it's common with dementia. My grandma had it,
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: so I kind of like witnessed it too.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: There's gay.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: So like a patient has dementia who is like far along,
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: forgotten people, forgotten names, places, that kind of thing. Right
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: before they die or have a really severe decline in health.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: They'll have one day, well it seems like they're all
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: of a sudden remember in the name of a song,
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: or they remember their daughter, and it seems like, oh,
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: it gets people a little bit excited. But all doctors know, yeah,
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: they know, no, no, this is not a good sign.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: My wife's a nurse. She runs a hospital, and she
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: said that'll happen. You'll see a patient that's regardless of
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: what it might be. And she's worked a lot in
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: cardiology and with you know, patient suffering cancer, and she
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: said they'll be be declining and they'll be like you're
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: non responsive in many ways, and then all of a sudden,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: you'll walk in one day and they'll be up out
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: of bed, they'll be very vocal talking to you, they'll
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: want to see their family. They're gone the next day,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: and that just I just it doesn't make sense to me.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: And I don't know whether it's just because I don't
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: understand medicine and health or it just doesn't make sense anyway,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Like there's just something so weird about that that was
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: exactly like without understanding it the way that you do.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I aways thinking about that too. It's like they get
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: that one that one day, and I'm like, well, that's
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: a real thing.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I wonder if that's something that maybe happened
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: to Brad and that's why he's that maybe gave him
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: the inspiration for it. Something that really I latched onto
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: is once we're in the shrine and Rodney sort of
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: regains his lucidity and he's sort of catching up on
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: what's going on. He has that moment of anger where
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: it's like they're all.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Like, oh, we just.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: We wanted to have this last day with you, of
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: you being you, and he was like, no, I've said
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: my goodbyes. How dare you'd like and to me with
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: you know, the losses that I've experienced, It's like, yeah,
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: that's that would be such a wild thing. When you
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: have to make medical decisions for loved ones who are
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: incapable of doing it, you just go, well, I think
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: this is what they would have wanted, So I would
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: I would have found that really confronting to then the
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: idea of you think you've done this right thing for
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: this person and then they throw it back at being
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: like I can't believe you've done this Like that, I
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: would have loved the entire episode of exploring that.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Then like I would have loved to have you know,
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: stretched on that.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think like those decisions made by the
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: people not suffering, it's made for the betterment of the
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: person that is going through some stuff. You're like, oh, well,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: they don't want to die. But like, you know, I've
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: got my grandparents and you know, I had a great
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: grandparent and I watched you know, Sarah's my wife's grandmother
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: and she left this a couple of years ago, but
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: they just they have a level of I wonder what
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: age you get to where you just have a level
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: of acceptance and like, yeah, you know, I hope I
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: don't wake up tomorrow. What are you talking about? Like,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: that's a lot of that sort of shit. It scares
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: the shit out of me. Let the idea that you know,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: today could be my last day, next week's my last
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: week or something like that.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: And by the time when you and I just had
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: to have that quiet moment of just both individually curling
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: into fetal positions when I shrewed to you, that mean
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: that it was like in any friendship relationship thing, only
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: one of us is going to attend the other one's funeral. Yeah,
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: And it's like that is a really sobering sort of thought.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, really, I mean And I went to
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: a funeral for my oldest friend in the world last week,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: and and I realized the last time I saw him
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: because we didn't see each other a lot. It's just
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: one of those friends you run into all the time,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: you know, great mates, but also don't see each other
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: that often. And the last time I saw him was
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: at a funeral for another friend, and like we were
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: sitting there like just looking around at this group. Brendan
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: was at that fierst funeral, Like we're like, holy shit,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: like someone that we grew up with, we played footy with,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: like he's no longer here and we're barely out of
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: their mid thirties, Like this just feels weird. And we
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: got this photo there one day, going, this is really special.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: We're all here together. Let's make sure that we don't
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: we don't go through this again. And then it was
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: only like three or four days after he died and
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I was looking at some photos of us together. I
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: was like, holy shit, the last time I saw him
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: was at that funeral, and we just thought, well, we're
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: going to see each other more often. But like that's
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: that's being young, and you just don't know, like yeah,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: like the stuff you were just saying funerals, But like
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: you know, I've heard from I think my grandparents have
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: probably got it too. It's like they all do not resuscitate.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: So if I declining, just let it happen. I'm like, no,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: man like it. But it's such a selfish thing, in
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: the most selfless. Why it's such a selfish thing to go. Yeah,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: but I'm not ready for you to go. I don't
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: want you to go. I don't want to be that
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: way you go.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: My dad has said that.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: My dad has said he never wants to be on
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: any kind of life support. He doesn't want to be
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: a vegetable as it falls that, you know, he doesn't
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: want to have any extreme means to sort of keep
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: him alive or anything like that because to him that
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: I think that's I think he's got some experience before
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: when his mother died and what he saw in her.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Because I don't ever want to be like that.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I don't want to.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: So he's like, he's like, don't ever go crazy trying
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: to keep me going.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: If I'm gone, I'm gone.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: I'm the same. I wouldn't want to, you know.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, on that life for the sake of life means nothing.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what do they say?
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: There's a difference between living, surviving, and thriving. You know,
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: there's a there's a difference.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: I think that's the thing that medical people don't get,
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: where it's like they think, oh, we need to keep
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: this person alive at all costs. We're going to spend
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: millions and millions of dollars and like, yeah, you'll get
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: you'll get another week with him. So why wouldn't you
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: want that we can keep we can keep your person alive.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: Your love one to lie for another week? Don't you
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: want that? I'm like, but they're clearly just in pain, Like,
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: what's it going to matter?
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Like, Oh, that's interesting, that must might be might be
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: an American thing. I don't really feel that over here.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: I feel like.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: That's it is a very American thing.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: And I suppose because the bills over there are twenty
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: thirty dollars and stuff like.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: Some people will just do it and absolutely do it,
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: like there, I don't care it's going to give pop
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: up another week. They'll go on to millions and millions
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: of dollars of debt for it.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: I feel like that's I mean, obviously Sarah could speak
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: on that more than we could, but I feel like
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: here it's more of a we can do this, or
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: we can do that. Whatever you want to do, we
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: we can do. But obviously there's usually an advice of going, well,
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: we can do this. They're not going to be in pain,
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: but you might get another couple of days out of
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: and stuff like. I don't feel like I've never felt
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: a push to be like, oh we can we can
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: do these crazy things just to keep this person breathing,
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: even though they're just going to be you know, not
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: lucid and not you know, aware of the situation. I
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: on something that happened in this episode. I thought I'd
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: love to get everyone's thoughts on it. On that I
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: was very anti it because I'm one very anti John
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: at the moment, but the moment when John and McKay
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: go out and have the beer out on the pier
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: and Rodney wants to have his goodbye on his terms,
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: and John pulls that Marcho bullshit where he's just like, no, no,
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: we're not We're not having that, And I was just like,
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know, like I thought of like if that
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: was a me and Mitch situation, like if you Idmage,
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: if you were in the Rodney position there and you
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: were trying to have a goodbye knowing that tomorrow you
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: might not have your thing, Like I'm not going to
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: pull that Marcho bullshit that John goes and goes no,
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: like I would hope you would know that I'm not
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: going anywhere.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: I'm there, but I'm gonna.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Let you have that that catharsis that that's saying goodbye
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: on your own, that's what you unique because it's not
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: happening to me.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: It's to you. I don't know, however, unthought about that.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I don't know whether it's just a Rodney
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: specific thing, like I probably sided. I can not that
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: I'm against Rodney, but I definitely sided with Shepherd or
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: can see what he's doing. And I don't see it
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: as a Marcho bullshit thing because I'm looking at that
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: going I mean Rodney, you know, he's very quick to
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: give up in many situations, and it's the idea of like, oh,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: I've lost my intelligence, therefore I'm going to die and
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: just maybe we'll die tomorrow. And he's like, dude, no, no, no,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: like he's trying to like give him some strength. I
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: know there's there is hope here and there's like I've
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: seen I think I feel like I've seen that a
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: bunch of times in movie and TV, and I'm like,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: I fully saw that as just like it no, no, no,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: shut up, like stop giving up. So not like, hey,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: I've made my peace with it, because at that stage,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: it was like when he woke up and frantically runs
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: to see John and had these you know, they were
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: just it was still well before the first tape that
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: we saw at the beginning of the episode, like he
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: still had he still had some of his gear about him,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: and it was just it was just those early signs
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: that were starting to freak him out and John going no,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: don't give up, don't give up now, do not give
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: up now. I didn't see it as a Marcho thing,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: but I didn't. I didn't. Yeah, I didn't.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: I didn't see it as a as a don't give
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: up or anything. But that's an interesting Yeah, I can
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: see that. Yeah, like a tough love sort of situation.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Like he was like, no, shut up, no, And it
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: wasn't like you're a dickhead, shut up your weak little
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: pussy or anything. It was like, no, we're cutting that out.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: And if he had to be firm otherwise, who went no, Rodney,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: come on no, it would have just been a back
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: and forth for It's like shut it down quick, and
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: maybe rodneyl you know, feel better about it, like kind
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: of like what he did. What he said, I don't
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: remember my niece's name. He's like Betty, and I'm like,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: I didn't think it was it was Madison. See you
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: got it because he didn't know the name, but he
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: knew what it wasn't so I like, what he was
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: doing there.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Now, that's a nice approach here because I I saw
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: it as because John's very much a action not words person,
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: Stuck in that mindset. But I don't think he was malice.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so that's an interesting approach. It was him saying, no,
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: you're not going to give up. But yeah, yeah, no,
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: that's I take.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: That helps me in that regd because yeah, I was
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: very like.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: Ugh, John.
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: I honestly think if McKay was farther along with it,
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: Shepherd may have, you know, said something different. But Mitch,
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: I think I agree, Like it was so early, you know,
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: he probably was like, oh, I don't want to give
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: up hope, and like this kind of being like dementia, Like, yeah,
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: is an I don't want to say ordinary, but it's
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: the thing that happens in the real world. They're not
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: in the real world there, it's a TV show, and
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: they're in an extraordinary circumstance. So then bringing him to
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: the shrine ironically was kind of what saved him too,
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: because he's smart, so he once he had his mind back,
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: he was able to help them solve this issue. So
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: I'm kind of with Shepherd on that I don't know
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: if I personally would have gone about it that way. Yeah,
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: but it's kind of like it reminds me of my
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: older sister. I think Jacob can kind of like my
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: older sister. She has OCD and like one of her
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: things she cannot do with family is say anything affectionate.
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: Like she's kind of action y, not words. So I
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: know in her way, when she does something, it's her
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: way of saying, oh, I love you, I care about you,
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: can't say it. So with them going out, like come on,
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: let's share a beer together, let's talk, and just Shepherd's
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: capacity in that.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Mind, Yeah, that was another.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: I really enjoy the beer and then let's get your
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: way from all this stress and stuff.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: And it's the same location where Carson appeared to was
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: it the cake?
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: I mean it's a one in six shot. I guess
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: there's only like six peers or whatever, so yeah, I
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: guess it'd have to be something close. Yeah, they might
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: have reused some of the c g I or whatever.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: So but on that whole scene I did, this is
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: and this is something I reference the other week with you,
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Jacob one, I loved, loved, loved, love love loved John's
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: panda raccoon T shirt whatever, I couldn't I still couldn't
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: tell you whether it was a panda or raccoon on.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: The loved it. But in what universe are we in?
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Where do we believe that John Shepherd sleeps fully clothed,
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: like in a T shirt and long pants.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: You should have been a shirtless.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: He's a naked sleep right, at least box and shorts.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, Ronan's a naked sleep We know Ronan would be
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: a naked sleeper, absolutely, but yeah, I feel like he'd
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: at least be like a box of shorts guy.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Right, that's a funny way of profiling people like we
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: just like and you, yeah, you say whether how they sleep?
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're such a silk set.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: Bed shirt with the little the little Beanie hat, the
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: little seven Dwarfs hat.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: But yeah, but I don't know. I didn't think that
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: he I would think, like, yeah, like a box of
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: short or an underwear type situation.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Or even like definitely shirt tank top sinking, definitely shirtless.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can definitely shirtless.
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe he normally sleeps shirtless, but since he's on
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: Atlantis and anything can happen at.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: Any moment, he almost wanted him to just like jump
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: out of bed and put something on, like when when
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: Roddy was banging shirtless, n he's Daniel, Daniel's got a
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: way better rig I did.
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: See him shirts, yeah, but yeah, I just I just
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: even if he was in a.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: Singlet and just like Sigal and just like threw on
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: a zipper hoodie or something like that and zipped it
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: up as he went to go and answer the door
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: or something like that.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: But I just thought it was weird.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: It was fully clothed like that, but on your on
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: your wearing your bed to your hoodie to bed. The
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: only reason I said it might have been ADHD thing
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: is because I saw like an Instagram ad pop up
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: and it was this sick hoodie with like a giant
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: almost like Ninja like like like Ronan in.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Endgame.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, and it flicks up and then I looked
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: on the thing and it's like, oh, this is a
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: sensory deprivation hoodie for people with ADHD and stuff like.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: That, And I was just like, oh, why does it?
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Why do I Why do I want one so much?
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Now that scene too, I'll get to the beerness of
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: it a second.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: That was where Duff or oprah Ale.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't think about the it being the same peer
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: or potentially the same pier as the Beckett Ghosts situation,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: But it was the music in that the scene to
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: remind me, is it the Daniel music when Daniel left
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: us little? I'll play it here. I think it's for
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: this scene, and then if it's not, then.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: All okay, okay. That's like a very similar like a.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Just enough. It was just enough, and so here I
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: am again pretty confident that McKay is not going to die,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: but we are near. In the end of the run
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Right's writing it, we use a skew on the Daniels
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: death music, like oh shit, what am I doing here?
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: What do I do it?
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Now? My main groupe day with that particular scene is
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: that when he said the peer is good tonight, you
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: know it's a good night on the pier, I didn't
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: actually think of him, so I knew that he was
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: going outside, but I was thinking he's going to the deck,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: like outside the cafeteria, right yep. So when they're actually
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: on the pier, I'm like, okay, yep, cool, that's already
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: said per. I didn't say deck. Yeah, they're still outside.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: But then when they did the big pull away, and
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I'm like, holy shit, like how far away are you
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: from the city. They would have had like even if
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: you're in the nearest building, you're still walking for the lot.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: They would have had to have taken a transporter to
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: that closest point and then walked.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, by the time, you're not going to make it
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: feel better about anything.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: For him, it was a short walk. Then he didn't
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: remember when the water started.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: But my main thing this is, like this is just
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: a personal thing. I do not like drinking beer out
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: of a can. It's out of a tap, or it's
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: in a glass bottle. Beer in a can to me,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: like the cans just don't hold temperature very well as
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: soon as you open it. Like I love a can
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: of coke. I think that maybe it tastes better in
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: a can, but it doesn't say cold to see. Arguably,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: pound for pound, it tastes better out of glass.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: It's also because it's so hard to get coke in
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: a glass bottle these days.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Well for cheap, it's definitely more expensive doing that so
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: cheap in a can, but be I just feel like
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: it's it's it tastes flatter. It doesn't hold well.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: As someone who never drinks spear would be very proud
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: of me because I told Jacob before he goes he
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: has to have a Milton mango, otherwise known as a
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: for X. We got one from dream World. We thought
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: there was some four X FORX gold for X gold
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: for a Bible. I ordered it and she said glass
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: can or study. She gave me the option and I
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: got him a stubby got it because it would have.
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: Been a plastic cup.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: It would have been I didn't think about that. I
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: didn't even think about that. Yeah, So I mean, I
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: know for my dad can't. He's the same. He doesn't
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: drink beer out of cans, and.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: It's just it's a weird like headcannon for me. Then,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: because I'm like, it's such a long walk, he grabbed
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: that beer out of the fridge so it was as
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: cold as it's going to get. Did they drink the
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: food because they were cracking open their second one when
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: that scene started, Did you have no? He just took
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: the six pack plastic break.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: That's American.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: I feel like warm beer is an American thing, though,
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: isn't it more of a British Just like walking around
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: with a with a with a thick ring.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's my thought. Did they did they drink
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: the first one as they walked out because they were
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: cracking the second one when they were already sitting down,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: or did they wait until they sat down before they
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: cracked open even the first because I'm there going, Okay,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: it doesn't taste good in a can anyway, the temperature
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: has gone down, so by the time I get to
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: that third one, it's like it's got a hint of
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: cold to it, but it's loobal and that's just will
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: it you don't care?
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Will it help? Well, that's true, will help you sleep
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: at night?
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: If maybe maybe Atlantis has some really amazing like fridges
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: that where they can keep the beer at like one degree.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: So that you know it's hey, look, we're going to
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: use a stargate to go to a poop planet or
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: a ray for a Christmas party. We're absolutely using Atlanta
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: technology and.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: Path and then just like stick it in the snow.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: We saw we saw it Atlantian bathtub the other week,
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: So that's true. Yeah, maybe it's something.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: That the American or Canadian one. Yeah, that funny.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Anyway, it's a weird thing to like to stick in
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: ahead watching an episode about this kind of story.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: You're talking about a podcast where I sat here for
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: ten minutes winging about how cards kitchen was designed.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: So yeah, but that's your living, Like you make a
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: little business is drinking? You make a living out of
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: like being an alcoholic.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah I would.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: I would say you were as passionate or even more
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: passionate alcohol than I am about kitchens, Like like if
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: I wasn't if I wasn't getting paid to design kitchens,
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be designing kitchen.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Someone who has like maybe three alcoholic drinks a week.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Usually has maybe three alcoholic drinks A.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, but I don't think that makes you're passionate.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: Had Sorry, I had, uh what I have last night?
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: Oh? I had?
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: It was using so yeah, okay, that was interesting. Sorry
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: dis yeah that ding.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: Do you have any audio from that? The joke of
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: that scene is so funny when at the end was
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: like thanks Arthur.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I read some trivia about that, Jack, but
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: I didn't get the reference reference.
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: Oh, I just thought it was funny.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: I did play it and I was talking over it. Yeah, but.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: Uh no, it was a reference. So you talk about yourselves,
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: I'll find it.
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: Oh well, I want to ship on Shepherd just a
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: little bit further. Did anyone notice how much he was
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: flaring his nostrils in this episode? It bothered the out
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: of me.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: I first noticed it when they were up in the
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: room watching Ronnie when he was sitting in the wheelchair
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: in his robe and genies. And then she's like, she
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: looks at Shepherd and she goes, what am I supposed
• 50:51
  Speaker 5: to say to him? Like to my brother? And he
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: looks at her and he's just like, I know he
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: can't see it's the podcast. His novels just flare so much.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what the like?
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: I mean, he gives her a verbal response to But
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: then later in the scene with Rodney, when he Rodney
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: comes into the room all like shaken and everything, and
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: Shepherd gets out of bed, he flares his nostrils again.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what what the is?
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: This like a fun character choice? Like he just what's
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: an actor's name? Yeah, he just like woke up one day. Sorry, Yeah,
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: Like he just woke up one day and was like,
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna do this. I'm just gonna flare my nostrils
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: a lot, and hell, well, I don't know who's weird.
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: It bothered me. I was like, what the because he's
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: not done it at all this whole season five yeah,
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: five seasons in, and he was doing it like so
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: many times in this episode and then in serious scenes
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: too between the sisters.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Between okay, yeah, maybe.
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: Come on, show emotion.
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: Show emotion was great in this episode, like when he
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: had them where he had that line where he was
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: like he doesn't need to know, Like a dude, you
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: you are so passionate because you've experienced this before. Yeah,
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: like you're like, oh, it's worth it for McKay, I'm.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I actually, yeah, I enjoyed finding out the
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: backstory about you know, Ronan's grandfather when he was seven
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: or something. I actually felt more connected to that than
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: the Woolsey.
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: Outside for sure.
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: I found the little thing the Arthur reference. So, when
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: McKay and Shepherd are drinking beer at the pier, McKay
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: asked Shepherd to say goodbye now. Shepherd adamantly refuses. McKay
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: then says, you're a good friend, Arthur. This is the
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: same line that Sir John Gilgood says to Dudley Moore
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty one's Arthur when his character Hobson is dying.
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: Oh, I've never seen that. I would have never got.
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: I thought it was what Mitch said, like, oh, he
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: was pretending like he already forgot.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how I always read it because of the
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: joke about Betty and Madison.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's that's what I thought.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: But yeah, no, apparently it's a reference to nineteen eighty
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: one's Arthur, something I mentioned a couple of weeks ago,
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: and it reinforced it here with Genie, what's the deal
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: with the McKay family parents? Like, have we ever been
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: established what happened to Jeannie and Rodney's parents?
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: I can't remember anything.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: You kind of get the insinuation here that they didn't
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: have the greatest kind of relationship with their parents. I'm
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: guessing at this point their parents maybe are no longer
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: with us.
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: What are you referencing?
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: Just something that there was just a conversation with with
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: with Genie and and Rodney, just about how close they
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: are and that kind of stuff. It just kind of
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: sort of made me think about, Oh, what's what we've
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: we've never sort of found out what their what their
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: family situation was, and what their.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: What the deal is with their parents and stuff like that.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: You would assume that if, yeah, if Rodney was terminal,
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: they would have advised his parents if he was either
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: a on good terms of them or be if they
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: were still with us. So yeah, it just it was
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: just interesting.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: I can just as easily believe they would tell Jenny
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: because she knows about it. For the parents, it's like
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: training exercise.
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: Parents.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I mean I liked having her
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: back in. And again we got to a point where
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: what were they like, obviously she's she's an expert in
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: certain fields, but then they just kept having problems and
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: like even with the medical side of it, They're like,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: she walks in and questions kell her about it. I'm like,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: is she just now going to be an expert in
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: this type of science and medicine? Okay?
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: And then when we were the Atlantis technology.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the lif.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: No, no matter which corner we went to, she was
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: an expert. But then like when they kept talking, oh, well,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: this is like a galaxy wide thing. Obviously this is
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: something happens the second childhood blah blah blah. We've obviously
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: seen this a couple of times throughout the Atlantis part
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: of the franchise already. Oh, it's an interesting story that
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: they or an element they keep going back to, like it,
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: I feel like this could easily be a one and done.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: It kind of feels strange that they've revisited it even
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: this many times if it don't think is the second
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: or the third time. But it just seemed like such
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: a thing. Oh, it's just part of the mystery of
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: the universe. And like I was like, okay, so we
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: are we buildings Like when SG one get to a
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: planet or have been to a planet where like they
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: cure all diseases and like, oh, everything's fine, that's not
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: going to be the problems. Just at the end they
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: end up coming to like a disagreement with those people
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: and can't bring back the cure. All. I'm like, good,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: because if you don't have whatever that problem is, you're
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: now sitting on life world changing medicine or breakthroughs of
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: sub prescription that you now have to write around not
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: bringing back. It's one thing to bring a weapon back
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: and changing Earth's military. It's another thing to go, Hey,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: this will cure brain cancer and this will cure this
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: disease and not actually have it take place and take
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: effect on Earth. Whereas this, I'm like, are they going
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: to get to the shrine here and they're going to go,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: oh like that, Oh, it's just a certain type of
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: radiation and oh you know, if we take this and
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: we put this into effect here, we can actually cure
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: the entire peg it's this galaxy from this effect. I'm like, well, yeah,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: we're gonna be careful. How is this going to end.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: Is it just gonna be like Rodney's fixed, Thank God
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: for that, or is it they're just gonna cure the
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: galaxy from this particular ailment and then we're just never
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: really going to talk about it.
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: Take a cordless drill with them.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the drill and a quantum a particle magnum
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: and yeah you good to go.
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: I mean that to stomp on it.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Wait.
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: So, like the Paris I exited through that cut that
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: color made because I didn't want the radiation, Like, why
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: didn't it just like leave McKay's ass or something.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: Why didn't it burrow down deeper too?
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: Because it's like it actually will be getting more exposed
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: to the radiation by leaving, I mean plenty of yeah, and.
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: It's path of least Resistance.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, and it was the thirty ninth minute of
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: the episode, so that they need to wrap things up.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, just what he's I've had an idea and oh,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: we're going to go break into like a wraith hive ship. Like,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: what are we going to go do? It's no, We're
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: going back to the jumper and just get an aeg drill.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: Just start drilling into this man's skull and through the ship.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: And through the magic of Atlantean technology. No face scar.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: Week. A couple of little quicker bits of trivia before
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: we wrap up final appearance of Genie for the show.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: She's done.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: Ronan was carrying Tire's sword that he got a couple
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: of weeks ago. He's now carrying that on his hip
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: rather than his other sword on his back.
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: I think I missed that because he was wearing a
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: jacket in this episode, and he had been wearing a
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: jacket for real long.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, he wears it down as like a hip
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: as a hip sword. Now, Oh, the whole thing about
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: and Brendan and I have spoken about this on mass
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: about the fact that you can't cloak before you go
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: through the stargate.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: You have to go through that. This is obviously the most.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: Prominent thing where we had to like send them out
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: through blow smoke so that we could then take the
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: jumper through the stargate and then cloak on the other side,
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: rather than cloaking and then going through.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: I don't even think I'd ever proper appreciated the fact
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: that they don't do malps like where wolves. He's like,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: I think we would have to do this every time,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: and that's going to get old quick?
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, is it?
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Though?
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: I think is it?
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: I think we did it in season one of Atlantis
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: and it was a space gate and we lost them
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: mount so I think that's why they stopped doing it.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: The one Yeah.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Especially, I mean I know they knew what was on
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: the planet where the shrine was, but at the same
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: time they walk into they go, oh, what's going on
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: around here, and just like like someone shooting the shit
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: out of the gate, like you're dead, like you can
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: send melps. Are you talking about it's going to get old? Yeah,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: he's living getting old? Yeah, good shepherd Jesus.
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: I do love the fact that there was a callback
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: joke twice in this episode about Rodney is somehow obsessed
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: with ham that.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: I love that to no end.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he wanted he wanted the Hams have some ham
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: no no food free surgery.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because when even before we got to the surgery
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: with him coming back, McKay coming back and he's trying
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: to figure some stuff out, mean while Ronan's went to
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: the ski and he's like breakspace. We're already kicked, thinking
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: let's go. He's like, you see me some ham blah
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: blah blah, And I'm like, oh, that was such a
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: funny line, but I'd forgotten that was actually a ham thing.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he brings it back later he's give
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: me my man and eleven. Yeah, and then the final
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: thing I've got is just something for you to add
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: to your uh, your breathy John.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: Audiograms tel for.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: Jongle John Bye John John. I mean, friend, there was
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: like a level of awkwardness watching this entire episode with that.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: So it's one thing to go, oh, he's lost his intelligence.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: It's nothing to say that he's childlike, but when he
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: was walking around and like even when they got to
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: I actually I looked away for a second and I
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: just heard the noise. And it was when they actually
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: entered the cave, got to the shrine and he sort
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: of you know from camera left and walks you know,
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: in front of the over the camera, exiting camera right,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: and as he gets like right in the center of
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: the screen, he just here. I was like, oh, can
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: we not? This is so we're tinkering edges here, guys,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: Like it's nothing for a child to be scared. It's
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: another thing when you're getting all franks and beans on
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: it and just getting this I don't know, man, it's
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: just and nothing against Like Hewett as a performer, I
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: think it was like part of the direction.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm saying that's an aye makata.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: That's it's like, no, no, no, do it more like this.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: And he's like joking, man, this could get me canceled
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: in twenty years, Like what are we doing here?
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: But less chromosomes? Do it with less chromosomes?
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: There was like that's what it was, That's what it
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: felt like. That's big guys, come on, yeah, yeah, even
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: if you were playing a character.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, It's like he was like audio stemming, like he
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: would say like rown in decks, Like I just like
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: loved like the sounds and like that's like special needs,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: that's not dumb.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, exactly, that's what I said when.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: The first shot of the whole episode players up. I
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: didn't I say. I was like, is he like on
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: the spectrum like McKay on the spectrum?
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: Cut?
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: That's that's that's great, David, A little more downy time?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: Please?
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Can we do it a little more downy?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah? That was an interesting choice for sure.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah's at these moments where we go, Okay, what's gonna
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: what's gonna make the cut? But you know that's hey,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: that's that's the safety of the studio guys. So you're
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: our cancelable offenses are now in my hands. Uh, And well,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: I mean we're gonna wrap up. But thank thank you
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: for like taking time out of your like your Australian
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: tour to come in like this is actually really awesome
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: because like I actually feel like and you know, you
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: come along to a rugby league game the other day,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: my favorite team, big event, blah blah blah, and don't.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: Stop leave the Yeah, you're the one holding a shark.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: He's got fins. He's dolphin, he's got fins.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: Though we do have a team called the sharks though. Yeah,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: but that's fine, that's fine. And you know, I met
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: you guys, and I was sort of like, hey, here
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: you going. I'm like, hang, I've actually never like physically
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: met you guys.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: It was like, oh, hey, you know, hey again.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: But once, you know, one like maybe only once over
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: that our ark of truth.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: Of truth that was for both of them. Jacob was
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: here for Mobius yeah, sripple effects.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then maybe you did you maybe like cross
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: over during that and maybe coming and say hey or
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: something during.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: The maybe or something like that or maybe yeah.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, either way, it felt like I've like met you
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: guys heaps of times and like we really haven't. So yeah,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: thank you for no.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: I think they do this more than dream world.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean a little bit.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: I enjoy a lot of things more than no, thank you.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: I mean, like between like getting us tickets to the
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: game and it's coming and record.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: This was a great, great time. Thank you.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know definitely.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: Do you have that other really bad pun that you
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: threw up with us the other day?
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: Well there was the whole born thing.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I was going to talk about I forgot this time,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 5: so I'll have to wait for next time to talk
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: about g born and my I'm going to write like
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: a gay fanfic.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: Oh that's right, that was the thing we talked about.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, what's that?
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: Elle has decided that Jack and Maybourne are actually secret lovers.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: Jack and Maybourne.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so she's gonna she's gonna write some slash thick okay,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: yeah about what she thinks really happened on that moon come.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: Together Jack.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got questions, but I'd rather question after I
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: read it, So please do. We'll make a special episode
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: out of it. Every time we do like a SG
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: one like adjacent thing, we go, that's the final time,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: you know, Like I've just deleted that the the intro
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: from my podcast like editing template, because I'll never need
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: it again. You know, we've we've done continuum. But I'll
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: tell you what if we get back and do a
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: little special on a gay fan fig Jack O'Neill and Maybourne. Yeah,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: I'm bringing it back mate, you know absolutely, we'll give
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: you publish you but we can give you an audio
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: published post whatever that would be. So yeah, I get
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: back the LA chapter. Guys. We need to we need
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: to keep the strongholds strong in in greater California.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: Have a foothold in the North American continent.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: There it is get into geek.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: Get into the Gate, get into gate Stargate.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: That'll give me some mass, bring