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De'Aaron Fox Might Be Traded Soon... · Kenny For Real

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Speaker 1: I don't know how long you've been watching Chine, but
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Speaker 1: I have a really bad track record with predicting NBA
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Speaker 1: trade deadlines. Just in twenty twenty three, two days before
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Speaker 1: the deadline, I came into this channel and said, hey,
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Speaker 1: a lot of these rumors aren't really it. Don't expect
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Speaker 1: no big name players to be moved. And then Kevin
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Speaker 1: Durant got traded. Just yesterday on my podcast, I say,
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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty five trade deadline might be kind of me.
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Speaker 1: Everybody's worried about Second eight friends, everybody's worried about this,
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Speaker 1: orry about that.
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Speaker 2: The only name that might be traded is Jimmy Butler.
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Speaker 1: And literally two hours after we finished wrapping up that episode,
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Speaker 1: Daron Fox's name start to get thrown out there. Shamp
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Speaker 1: Sharani reports Justin and Sacrament Kings are expected to open
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Speaker 1: up trade talk to potentially deal all star Daron Fox
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Speaker 1: ahead of February sixth trade deadline. Sources tell ESPN there
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Speaker 1: are plenty of suitors. This is what things get real interestant,
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Speaker 1: but it's believed that Fox has a target destination in
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Speaker 1: mind of head of the twenty twenty six free agency.
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Speaker 1: Now this seems like it came out of know, well,
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Speaker 1: if you really got you into the ground, you're around Sacramento, Kings, Twitter,
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Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. Things have been kind
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Speaker 1: of brewing in Sacramento quite a bit. You go to
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Speaker 1: before the season started where Darren Fox declined a big old,
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Speaker 1: big old contract extension, and a lot of us thought that, hey,
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Speaker 1: that makes sense. If he makes an All NBA team,
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Speaker 1: he can make so much more money. This is not
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Speaker 1: an indication of his time in Sacramento. He just wants
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Speaker 1: the bag. I respect that. Take a gamble because you
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Speaker 1: know the base level max contract is going to be
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Speaker 1: there for you, Dren, no matter what. But if you
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Speaker 1: could turn that base level to an extra fifteen to
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Speaker 1: twenty percent, go.
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Speaker 2: Get your bag.
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Speaker 1: But also when he was asked about these things, but
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Speaker 1: I want to make sure that we're in that position
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Speaker 1: to be competing and competing at a high level for
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Speaker 1: a long time, not just fighting for a playoff spot. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: the way the West is going, we have to continue
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Speaker 1: to get better as players and as a team and
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Speaker 1: as an organization. And I mean I'm not saying I'm
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Speaker 1: not saying or that I am saying that just beat
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Speaker 1: my ass, but I would love to be here, and
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Speaker 1: I want to make sure that we're competing at a
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Speaker 1: high level. Interesting stuff understandable, right, put some pressure on
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Speaker 1: the front office to continue to build. This is something
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Speaker 1: that Lebron James has done for the entirety of his career.
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Speaker 1: This is something we saw Giannis do multiple times, right
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Speaker 1: before the Drew Holliday trade and right before the Damian
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Speaker 1: Lilla trade. Hey, I would love to be here, but
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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I want to win
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Speaker 1: a championship. This is not too out of the realm
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Speaker 1: of normalcy. And things got a little bit weirder. And
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Speaker 1: when we started the season where the Sacramento Kings went
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Speaker 1: on the stretch where they weren't very good. We have
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Speaker 1: the possession where Dearn Fox fouls Jade and Ivy on
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Speaker 1: a three point shot. Jay Navy hits the free throws
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Speaker 1: and the Sacramento Kings end up losing that game, and
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Speaker 1: Dearon Fox goes to the pot and he said, hey,
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Speaker 1: it don't matter exactly what happened. It's not gonna make
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Speaker 1: nobody feel better, and a lot of people took that.
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Speaker 2: The wrong way.
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Speaker 1: There then becomes rumblings about what's going on in the
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Speaker 1: locker room, does Dearn Fox last? The Sacramento Kings really
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Speaker 1: rock with Mike Brown. Mike Brown gets canned in the
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Speaker 1: midst of losing five straight games at home. Doug Christie
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Speaker 1: comes in, and since Doug Christie has come into this
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Speaker 1: locker room and been been a head coach, things have
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Speaker 1: been good. They've been a great offensive defense has because
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Speaker 1: so in my mind, all of the speculation because there
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Speaker 1: was Rich Paulson and course sat and he wouldn't put
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Speaker 1: a little bit of pressure on the Sacramento Kings organization.
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Speaker 1: But because they started to win, I figured that all
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Speaker 1: the Dearn Fox buzz was gonna die down.
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Speaker 2: It hasn't, and it's louder than ever now.
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Speaker 1: When sham Serania reported this, initially, for about five minutes,
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Speaker 1: people were speculating what could this secret team be and
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Speaker 1: then it literally came out. Everybody knows he wants to
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Speaker 1: go play for the Spurs, which is so interesting because
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Speaker 1: I remember before the season started, and I wish I
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Speaker 1: remember who reported this, they were saying that there are
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Speaker 1: stars across basketball that are already willing and wanting to
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Speaker 1: play alongside Wenby. I don't know if Dearon Fox has
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Speaker 1: had Winby on his radar all of this time. But
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Speaker 1: for Wenby to be a year two player and have
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Speaker 1: a guy like Dr Fox who was mister Clutch a
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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, all start here. They'll be like, Hey,
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Speaker 1: I'm okay with being the number two. The Wimby is
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Speaker 1: kind of cool if you're a Winby fan, But the
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Speaker 1: Spurs is that organization and that's where things.
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Speaker 2: Get really tricky.
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Speaker 1: Right Daron Fox who he'll unstrict the free agency in
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. So though there are plenty of calls,
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Speaker 1: and there was another report that over a dozen teams
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Speaker 1: have called the Sacramento Kings for Dearn Fox. That was
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Speaker 1: also reported by Shaan Serania that if you are these
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Speaker 1: opposing teams that are interested in Dearon Fox, the question
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Speaker 1: is how much are you willing to give up? If
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Speaker 1: in the back of your mind you know that Daron
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Speaker 1: Fox wants to go to San Antonio in just a year.
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Speaker 2: Listen, I've been so pro player empowerment.
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Speaker 1: I still do believe that, Hey, if you don't like
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Speaker 1: your situation, you should have the opportunity to request the trade.
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Speaker 1: One thing you can't necessarily control is where you get
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Speaker 1: traded to.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: It does happen all the time, right where Kevin Durant
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Speaker 1: said that he wanted to go play for the Sons
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Speaker 1: and he ended up being on the Sons, but that's
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Speaker 1: not always a case. We're also seeing this with Jimmy Butler,
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Speaker 1: who also says he wants to play for the Sons,
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Speaker 1: but it's making it way more difficult for him to
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Speaker 1: get his destination. You can request out, which again I'm
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Speaker 1: not saying Darn Fox has done that because his wife
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Speaker 1: has come to his defense a lot on Twitter over
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Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours saying, hey, we haven't requested
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Speaker 1: the trade. We just kind of letting them know that
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Speaker 1: maybe you should listen to offers because we kind of
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Speaker 1: have a mindset on something else.
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Speaker 2: Either way, you can request the trade, but you don't.
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Speaker 1: You can't necessarily pick where you want to go all
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Speaker 1: the time, right So, though you want to go play
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Speaker 1: for the Sacramento or you want to go play for
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Speaker 1: the Sentence on your Spurs, R. C. Buford and the
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Speaker 1: people in charge of it probably are interested. Daron Fox
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Speaker 1: is almost a perfect match for a guy like Victor Women, y'am.
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Speaker 1: I think we can all agree there, but The question is,
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Speaker 1: if you are already thinking about in twenty twenty six,
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Speaker 1: if you want to come play for our organization, why
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Speaker 1: should we give up the font Why should we trade
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Speaker 1: Dad Atlanta first round pick that's gonna look better get
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Speaker 1: well soon, Jalen Johnson. Why should we trade one of
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Speaker 1: our younger players, whether it be Stefan Castle, Devol Sale,
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Speaker 1: whoever it may be. Why should we trade all this
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Speaker 1: stuff when you already got your eyes set on us?
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Speaker 2: And guess what if you decide to.
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Speaker 1: Get if you get traded to another team, you say, hey,
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Speaker 1: random team is now on new spot. I know I
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Speaker 1: wanted to play for the Spurs, but now I like
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Speaker 1: this spot. We still do have Wimby, and we do
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Speaker 1: believe that some of the star might become available. Right,
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Speaker 1: It's not one the one because the Carmelo Anthony thing.
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Speaker 1: It happened when Carmelo Anthony was in the end of
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Speaker 1: his contract year. But I remember when the Knicks traded
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Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff for a player that had already
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Speaker 1: told the world that he was going to New York
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Speaker 1: in a couple months. They traded a bunch of stuff
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Speaker 1: or player that is actively saying that when my contract
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Speaker 1: is up in three months.
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Speaker 2: I'm coming to your city. They gave up picks, they
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Speaker 2: gave up talented players like the rooster, and so on
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Speaker 2: and so forth.
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Speaker 1: Again, it's not a one to one because deer Fox
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Speaker 1: Steel has an extra year on top of his contract.
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Speaker 1: But I do I think a lot of people look
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Speaker 1: back on that trade for Carmelowentthian.
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Speaker 2: We all agree to Carmelo Anthony this time.
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Speaker 1: Even though it wasn't necessarily the pinnacle of success in
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Speaker 1: New York City, it was a great tenure with the Knicks.
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Speaker 2: You don't take that away. But you also could have
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Speaker 2: had that, plus.
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Speaker 1: Having some of the younger players that were initiating that trade,
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Speaker 1: plus having some of the draft capital that was a
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Speaker 1: part of that trade. But on the flip side of that,
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Speaker 1: you look at the San Antonio Spurs, what you're about
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Speaker 1: to do. You say, hey, we have Victor Mbiama, And
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Speaker 1: for the majority of the season, Victoribiama has looked like
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Speaker 1: a top ten player in basketball.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it might not be smart.
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Speaker 1: For us to trade a bunch of stuff right now
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Speaker 1: for him, even if he says he wants to come
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Speaker 1: here in a few years. But if we add d
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Speaker 1: R and Fox to this lineup, we can see ourselves competing,
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Speaker 1: like really really being in a playing spot because things
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Speaker 1: ain't going great as recently. They were the ten seed
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Speaker 1: a little while ago and they fallen all the way
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Speaker 1: down to twelve and they're two and a half games
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Speaker 1: back now two and a half games. It's not the
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Speaker 1: end of the world, especially because we're not even at
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Speaker 1: the all stop break yet. But you have to think
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Speaker 1: about that, especially considered that they have other players picks, right,
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Speaker 1: you could potentially get this deal done without giving up
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Speaker 1: any of your personal future and using the Atlanta Hawks
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Speaker 1: pick or using some of the players. And it also
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Speaker 1: has been rumored let me pull it up also by Seantrana.
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Speaker 1: They want win down players and draft capital, so they
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Speaker 1: want to keep this boat afloat and think about what's
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Speaker 1: going on around to Bonus and some of the younger
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Speaker 1: guys while.
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Speaker 2: Still staying competitive.
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Speaker 1: But since this support has come out, which has been
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Speaker 1: about twenty four hours now, I've been thinking about other
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Speaker 1: teams that could be interesting for Dearon Fox to go
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Speaker 1: to again, knowing that he might not stay around after
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, which obviously crazy carrot to put onto
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Speaker 1: any single trade but I'm looking across your association and
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Speaker 1: this is not indication about Deer Fox. I think we
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Speaker 1: can all agree that Deanon Fox a phenomenal NBA player,
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Speaker 1: But the point guard Posinis is just one of those ones.
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Speaker 1: The majority of teams have their guy, and if you
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Speaker 1: don't have that guy, you're not thinking about adding that
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Speaker 1: guy via trade, you know what I'm saying, Like a
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Speaker 1: lot of the times, if you don't have the dude,
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Speaker 1: you're usually a tanking team, and maybe you draft yourself
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Speaker 1: a point guard. Maybe, Like it's not like the Washington
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Speaker 1: Wizard shout out to Jordan Poole and his success so
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Speaker 1: far this season that they're like, yeah, we'll trade for
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Speaker 1: We'll trade for Daron Fox. No, you might get Dylan
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Speaker 1: Harper in a draft and that might be a better
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Speaker 1: suitor for what you're trying to do. So if I
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Speaker 1: when I look across this league right now and try
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Speaker 1: to figure out exactly where he fits, you can look
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Speaker 1: at like the Orlando Magic is an interesting case, right.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't provide exactly what the Orlando Magic need because
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Speaker 1: the ar Fox has always been a streaky three point shooter.
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Speaker 1: Even this year, he's only shooting like thirty two percent
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Speaker 1: from three. They need production from like outside. But then again,
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Speaker 1: Y'a also could just get himself some buckets. So I
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Speaker 1: don't necessarily love the fit, but it is a team
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Speaker 1: that would be relatively interesting if they could get things
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Speaker 1: done while giving you some quality more role players, but
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Speaker 1: some draft picks as well, So that's a case. And
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Speaker 1: then like the Heat, make this a big all start,
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Speaker 1: all star deal with seven different teams.
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Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler gets to his spot, Darn Fox gets to Miami.
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Speaker 1: But even that feels so convoluted because you gotta think
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Speaker 1: about it like this, Not only are you traded for
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Speaker 1: Dearon Fox. You're traded for Dearon Fox. Then you have
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Speaker 1: to extend him in a little bit or hope that
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Speaker 1: he exceeds.
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Speaker 2: Signs that extension.
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Speaker 1: So you're asking for Daron Fox to come into a
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Speaker 1: team like the Miami Heat, where if you're doing this,
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler goes here or you get so you got
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Speaker 1: to re sign Dearon Fox on a max contract, bam,
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Speaker 1: and the Bio just got his extension and Tyler herroes
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Speaker 1: also on the Max. And I think I still look
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Speaker 1: at that team and I think they're a championship team
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Speaker 1: and they're objectively better. But I'm not looking at them
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Speaker 1: and say, yup, they're beating the Celtis and seven. Yep,
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Speaker 1: they're beating the Cavs in seven. Yep, they're beating OKC
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Speaker 1: and seven. And if you have three MAX players and
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Speaker 1: you don't feel like you're a real championship contender, is
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Speaker 1: it really worth The flip side of that is that
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Speaker 1: you can say, hey, maybe we're not the championship contender
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Speaker 1: right now, but have you seen the Kryptonia kell ware
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Speaker 1: you watch him progress in two years that maybe he's
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Speaker 1: played his way into all Star level, and now we
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Speaker 1: got four potential All Star caliber players, then we.
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Speaker 2: Can do it.
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Speaker 1: But I'm only looking at surface level what the roster
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Speaker 1: looks like today. And that's kind of in for the
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Speaker 1: Eastern Conference, bro, because the Atlanta Hawks, ob've seen you
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Speaker 1: got your young Cad Cunningham and Daron Fox is.
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Speaker 2: Kind of interesting.
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Speaker 1: I kind of like that idea, but I just don't
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Speaker 1: like that makes a ton of sense from Detroit.
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Speaker 2: And then yeah, the Pacers got their guy.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna put them boys together, the Tyres
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Speaker 1: and dear Fox, and then the Bucks obviously, not the Knicks, obviously,
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Speaker 1: not the Celts, is the Calves, No, And then you
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Speaker 1: get to the tanking teams.
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Speaker 2: There's no reason for the Bulls to call for dear Fox.
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Speaker 1: They probably will because they're not the brightest organization, but
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Speaker 1: there's no reason for them to make that trade. The
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Speaker 1: seventy six ers have MAXI and Jared McCain coming back
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Speaker 1: from his injury. The Raptors, who the hell knowss going
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Speaker 1: on with them, but they gave a lot of money
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Speaker 1: to a manual quickly to be their full time point guard.
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Speaker 2: The Nets, I guess, could be interesting.
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Speaker 1: They could give you real players right now that can
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Speaker 1: help you compete and could give you some surplus draft capital.
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Speaker 1: But if I'm a Nets fan, I'm like, why are
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Speaker 1: we doing that right now? Especially for a player that
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Speaker 1: we don't know if we're going to be able to
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Speaker 1: resign in two years? And in our West, it's like
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Speaker 1: no thunder. The Rockets are interesting, but they're doing they're
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Speaker 1: playing such good basketball. It feels stupid to rape to
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Speaker 1: mess up what they got going on by trading Fred
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Speaker 1: van Vliet and I don't know, Steven Adams and some
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Speaker 1: draft capital in order to get dearon Fox, even though
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Speaker 1: Darrant and Am and Tom in the fast break will
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Speaker 1: be kind of crazy. But it doesn't make sense. Greases
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Speaker 1: don't make sense. The Nuggets don't make sense. The Lakers
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Speaker 1: make sense, but like the Lakers are attached to everybody,
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Speaker 1: they don't have the assets necessary to go get Dean Fox.
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Speaker 2: The Clippers don't make sense. The Timberwolves, whoa the Temblewolves.
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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
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Speaker 1: Now, obviously this will have to be some Big three teamer,
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Speaker 1: right because I don't think that the Kings are looking
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Speaker 1: at Julius Randall as the guy. But if I'm just
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Speaker 1: strictly talking on fit in need, with Mike Conley playing
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Speaker 1: the way he has and Rob Dillahan being a rookie,
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Speaker 1: dear Fox is not that bad for the Timblelves. But again,
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Speaker 1: that's a pipe dream. I didn't even know what that
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Speaker 1: looks like. Obviously, the Sun's probably not gonna happen. Mavericks,
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Speaker 1: no Warriors, and he is signed the under Armor huh.
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Speaker 1: He is signed to Steph Curry brand at No Spurs
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Speaker 1: obviously Trailblaze. So like, it's just one of those players
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Speaker 1: that we can all agree is a super super talented dude,
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Speaker 1: But there's not many fits outside of the one place
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Speaker 1: that he told you he wants to go to. And
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Speaker 1: then I think about the other side of things, as
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Speaker 1: they say that they want win now players, a future
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Speaker 1: draft capital, win now players in a trade for Dear Fox.
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Speaker 1: You're not getting an all star back. Can we agree
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Speaker 1: on that, Like, you probably get a starter, maybe two
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Speaker 1: starter quality players, and some.
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Speaker 2: Role players, so on and so forth.
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Speaker 1: But I look at that roster, and I look at
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Speaker 1: that team, and I just the they right now, even
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Speaker 1: with them playing so well, we can all agread with
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Speaker 1: Dear Fox a bonus and Keegan Murray and Lamar Droz,
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Speaker 1: and there is a hard seiling on what this team
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Speaker 1: can be. Nobody looks at this team as a team
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Speaker 1: that's gonna win the conference. They don't look at this
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Speaker 1: team as a team that's gonna win a championship. So
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Speaker 1: if we shift an all start out in Dear Fox,
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Speaker 1: it will bring back win Now players.
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Speaker 2: What is the end goal here? What is our end goal?
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Speaker 1: Is it really truly to stay competitive enough to compete
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Speaker 1: for this playing spot and maybe take a sixth seed
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Speaker 1: and go in the first round in the playoffs. Give
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Speaker 1: us a good series but ultimately lose. Like I think
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Speaker 1: because of this, the whole future of the Sacramento Kings
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Speaker 1: is in jeopardy. And when I say the future, I
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Speaker 1: mean the competitive nature of them right now, because they
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Speaker 1: still have young players that are intriguing in good but
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about them being a team that's competed for
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Speaker 1: a playoff spot without Darn Fox and bringing in just
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Speaker 1: role players.
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Speaker 2: In draft capital.
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Speaker 1: A lot of the stuff that we've seen two years ago,
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Speaker 1: probably Dad, And as I continue to read things, whether
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Speaker 1: it be from Dearon Fox's family itself or from all
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Speaker 1: the reports from the reporters in Sacramento, I don't know
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Speaker 1: if this is just people trying to say face or
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Speaker 1: there's been this huge miscommunication, because again the Fox family
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Speaker 1: is saying that they've never formally requested a trade and
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Speaker 1: they don't think that they ever will.
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Speaker 2: But obviously, when you have a guy like Rich Paul,
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Speaker 2: who is a guy.
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Speaker 1: That puts pressure on the front office, and when Rich
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Speaker 1: Paul says something, in your mind, he's representing the player
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Speaker 1: and he is just a vestl to what the player
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Speaker 1: is really saying. So though the Fox family said no,
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Speaker 1: we ain't do that, we ain't do that, if your
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Speaker 1: manager is doing it, if your agent is doing this,
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Speaker 1: something has to be there. Unless y'all are so disconnected.
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Speaker 1: Somebody should be fired because now this is putting on
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Speaker 1: a fire in a franchise that had a gazillion fires
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Speaker 1: over the last twenty years. They just had one two
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Speaker 1: weeks or three weeks ago with the Mike Brown thing,
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Speaker 1: and now they got another one. I don't know how
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Speaker 1: Kings fans feel, other than seeing a few things after
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Speaker 1: Mike Brown was fired, of Kings fans starting to see
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Speaker 1: the press conferences and see the demeanor the Dr Fox
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Speaker 1: has put on over the last month, and they were
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Speaker 1: starting to turn themselves off from Dr Fox a player.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what the normal Kings fan believes about
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Speaker 1: Dearon or what they want to see the future of
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Speaker 1: this organization be like.
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Speaker 2: But I don't feel great about it. I'll leave it
14:36
Speaker 2: at that.