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Pacers Set For Finals Showdown With Thunder + Panthers Face Off With Oilers In Stanley Cup Rematch · Views from 400

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It's just like that! We're back! created by Brian
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himself, so you can either send praise or hate
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to him. The summer breeze segment, we'll get
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into that at the end of the show. Listen, I needed
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a new segment for Jack to hate even more than
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Michael the Week. Well, the Michael is around.
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We're apparently we're doing the Michael the
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Week and then we're doing the summer breeze.
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So if I don't lose my cool during Michael, maybe
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I'll enjoy summer breeze. We'll see. We shall
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see. But like I said, Jampack Show. new segment,
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so we will try and get through that one. But
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before we get a word from SeaGeek, Mr. Jack,
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you've been MIA for a little bit, for good reasons,
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of course, down in Aruba. Don't look as tan as
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I thought you might have been. How was the trip,
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man? I got a little bit of color on me, you know,
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but now the trip was great. Bright, bright white
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lights here. Definitely killing my vibe, but
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it was a great trip. Beaches. casinos, great
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restaurants, fresh, fresh fish. I mean, just
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everything you want in a trip. Yeah, I'm glad
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you didn't get white lotus. Yeah, I can't believe
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you would text me that while I'm on vacation
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in like a resort style area. That's the only
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thing that went through my head the rest of that
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day. I heard some other like patrons, you know
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enjoying themselves and talk it like just mention
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the words white lotus and I just like whip my
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head around at them like making sure I Got their
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faces and stayed the heck away from them because
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I like my vacations man And I'm not trying to
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have it get shot up or whatever else happens
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in white lotus a lot of bad things How'd you
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do in the casinos? You know what? I hope they're
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not listening right now because they're gonna
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ban me or try to come after my money again, but
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I did really, really well. Shout out my mom.
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Me and her were playing some three card poker.
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I walked away at two o 'clock in the morning
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with like 500 bucks. Really wanted to throw it
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all down on a couple of hands of blackjack and
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she wouldn't let me. And I was just being a good
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son listening to my mom and going to bed that
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night. While we were hot, didn't have the chance
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to throw it all away. Shout out moms for that
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one. Yeah, well, this is the part where you edit
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it to make it sound like you did bad so the IRS
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doesn't come for Jack I Didn't come home. I look
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when you go through those the customs in the
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airport They're like, hey you taking home any
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valuables anything like that $10 ,000 cash. I'm
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like, nope. Nope. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing good
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Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if that would
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be an IRS situation would it? You gotta make
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more money than I did. Yeah, I had a good 10
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G's I had a good weekend or you know good few
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days week Gamblin, but by no means does anybody
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need to come after me I don't make nearly enough
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money for that and last question before we We
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jump into it. Yeah, the side. I there what? One
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day you will Subscribe but let me get this out.
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What what were they paying you out it and it
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was USD casinos. Yeah That's how they roll down
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there. Only been to one of the Bahamas and it
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was USD as well, but I didn't know how that quite
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worked. Aruba is a very Americanized island.
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A lot of people are speaking English. Menus are
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in English. US dollars, all that good stuff.
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Yeah, I might be outing myself for being a moron.
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Aruba is its own country? It is, but it's like
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a Dutch... It's a Dutch. It's like it's its own
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country, but it's like also a Dutch territory
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or something. It's like Puerto Rico is a territory
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of the US, but they're a Dutch territory. OK,
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I got you. But they're their own country. Yeah.
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But I will say, you know, you really don't get
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the whole Dutch vibe. There's like a couple of
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places, you know, old Dutch taverns and all that
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kind of stuff. But it's a very Americanized island.
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You see a lot more dominoes and KFCs than you
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do to Dutch things. No Van Dykes walking around.
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I don't even know what that is, Brian. It's the
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Defender, right? Was he Liverpool, Matt? Yeah,
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he's on Liverpool. Brian was trying to make a
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bad joke, Jack. Just let it go. He's Dutch. I
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think he's Dutch. No, he's not. The Arubans love
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Xander Bogarts. That's their guy right there.
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And apparently... Jerks and Profar are like the
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two goats of... Oh, I didn't know Profar was...
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catcher coming up the ranks in the Orioles organization
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that's a ruby and that's the newest word on the
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street well you know best ruchman is not playing
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too hot so you could see him soon i wouldn't
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think Orioles are playing too hot no i think
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they have one like five in a row they're still
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14 under 500 Yeah, either way they got a lot
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easy concept. But the Panthers have reached the
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Stanley Cup final. I don't know, on the other
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side of the oilers have clinched as well. So
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we do have a rematch of last year. which saw
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the Panthers take a three game to zero lead.
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McDavid give a speech in the locker room, purposely
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leaked to the public to create this rise, create
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this comeback story. They did come back, but
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didn't finish the job. Came back from 3 -0, lost
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in game seven. I don't know what kind of series
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we're gonna see here. The Panthers have been
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really, really tough to stop. Jack, you got to
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be pretty fired up, man. I mean, this has been
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your team for the last two Aprils. Yeah, no,
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I'm very excited, man. The Cats are back in the
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Stanley Cup, three straight seasons. Last year,
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it obviously worked out for them, as you just
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said, beating the Oilers in seven. It was a great
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series. But two years ago, they lost to the Vegas
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Golden Knights in a 4 -1 series. Gentleman sweep,
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never really had a shot kind of thing. they're
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the best team rig we've seen that for the pa
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Connor McDavid is as good one man versus three
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lines Panthers and I would expe to be able to
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go back to ba again, but I'm never goin and I
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mean he's he's def pull out that pregame spe
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But it does scare me a little bit. I mean, this
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is a rematch of last year's Stanley Cup final,
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and you know the Oilers are going to be coming
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out hungry to avenge themselves after what happened
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last year. Yeah, I'm happy you kind of mentioned
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you're a little scared because I have a stat
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that is going to terrify you. I have a lot of
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stats in this episode. First, before I say that,
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I know I kind of said we wouldn't make any amendments
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to this after we set it in stone. But since Jack
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has been such a big Panthers fan on this show,
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should we give Jack the Panthers as a team on
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the leaderboard of championships? But you'd have
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to sacrifice the White Sox. And you can't get
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the Panthers retroactively. You mean the Red
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Sox? Red Sox. What'd I say? White Sox? The Rockies
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are on my mind. Bad baseball teams are on my
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mind. Um, but yeah, you've had to sacrifice the
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Red Sox and you don't get the retroactive title
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from last year, but you get this one. See, I
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could do that, but look, I'm into, I really like
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where Matt was coming at, was coming from, like
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when, when your team wins it, then you get one.
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Right. I respect that as much as the Panthers
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are my hockey team. You know, I've been to a
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handful of games, man. I'm not, I'm not a diehard
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Panthers fan. Okay, I'm rooting for me. I'll
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take I take a half right like a half sack. I
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could take like a half chip here But I have I
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just I feel like you're bigger Panthers fan than
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you are Red Sox fan that that was my thinking
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But I mean right now yes, but growing up I was
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a huge Red Sox fan, so I think I think right
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now pretty equal for what it's worth I would
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put them pretty cool as far as my fan goes Jack's
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fandom comes out in April Mean Jack was not gloating
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panthers hockey in December January and February
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if the Red Sox are making this unbelievable of
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Ron in October I guarantee every single day he
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has a David Ortiz Jersey on so I you know, I
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I Think both are the same here. It's just the
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the Panthers are red -hot It's easy for him to
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express his fandom ship. You know, they're more
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relevant right now and I only wear the big poppy
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jerseys on Fridays until Red Sox, October. Manny
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on Saturday, Pedro on Sunday. There you have
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it. Brian, I tried to give you some kind of out
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there to claim a championship, and I'm glad you
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had some kind of integrity to shut that down.
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Yeah, no, I was just going to say... What championship
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do we want to give to Brian? Mets legend Manny
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Ramirez. No, Brian was trying to open the door
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for you to get something. No, I was just... He's
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actively been a Panthers fan. I'm fine with the
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teams I have. I'm probably not going to get one
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unless it's the Mets for a while. But either
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way, the set I have for Jack to put some terrible
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news into his boots, make him shake in his boots,
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make him crap his pants, whatever. I can't think
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of a good metaphor. It's Sunday and it's late.
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This is obviously a Stanley Cup rematch. The
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last two Stanley Cup rematches before this we
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had in 1983, Wayne Gretzky's Islanders take on
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the Oilers. They lost in 83. They would go on
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to win in 84. I might have mixed that up. Wayne
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Gretzky's Oilers take on the Islanders. Gretzky
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lost in 83, won it in 84. The rematch after that,
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we had the Red Wings and the Penguins. Sidney
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Crosby's Penguins. They lost to the Red Wings
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in 2008, and then they won it in 2009. That's
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the last two Canadian Goats. We're in the last
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two Stanley Cup rematches. Lost it the first
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time, won it the second time. Now we have Connor
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McDavid lost the first one he's winning the second
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one It's gonna be tough I mean Big David and
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dry side all the one two punch that they have
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is unbelievable, but I Just yeah, you know, I
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Wouldn't have hated that so much if it didn't
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have Gretzky and Crosby attached to it because
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McDavid really is That that next him they're
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passing the torch Gretzky passed it to Crosby
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and now Crosby gets to pass it to McDavid Oh
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Gretzky necessarily passed it to Crosby, but
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it was close In terms of the next Canadian hockey,
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but yeah, I mean cross he was definitely him
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for a long time or Gretzky was done What and
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the 90s and Crosby was the mid -2000s? Yeah,
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it's not that much time. That's what I said,
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it was close. Sitting across from playing hockey
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my entire life, I feel like. Yeah, it was probably
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the same gap as like Jordan to LeBron. Either
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way, Jack, your thoughts on scaredness level?
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No, look, I mean, this this was a a series that
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the Panthers almost swept last year and then
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they almost and then and then they dropped three
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straight and they almost got reverse swept. Yeah,
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they almost got reverse swept. So if anything
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can happen in hockey, I mean, I will say I do
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think this Panthers team is better than they
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were last year. I mean, and as long as they play
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just as hungry, which I think they will, I don't
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see a reason why they can't win this go back
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to back there. Don't get me wrong, McDavid and
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the Oilers are going to be hunting for one. They
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didn't get to taste it last year. There's probably
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a picture of all those Oilers just standing on
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the ice, watching the confetti come down, a Jalen
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Hurts kind of picture. And they all want it just
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as bad, if not more, than the Panthers who want
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to go back to back. So it's going to be a great
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series, man. It's the finals. This is what we
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all wait for. Gonna be a great four to seven
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games over under five and a half fights with
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Matthew Kachuk Over you don't like Canada Him
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like Sam bet I mean dude all these guys love
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to fight. It's half the reason how players Half
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the reason they're hockey players, and they just
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love fighting That's a lot of fights. That's
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like almost a fight a game directly involving
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Kachuk Yeah, but he's in his blood, man. It's
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in his blood. We look at Brady as, like, one
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of the biggest enforcers for Team USA. So, like,
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let's get it going, man. We're crashing boards.
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We're throwing right hands, left hands. Let's
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do it. I don't know about just that guy for five
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and a half. Definitely see five and a half in
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the series. Oh, yeah. No, I'm talking about just
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involving Matthew. I don't think so. And then
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you gotta then you gotta define fight like one
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-on -one drop the gloves. Oh Well, no, no, they
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won't that they won't let that happen skirmish
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a skirmish can count Yeah, well then you know
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it so yeah define the fight No, I don't need
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to expect a speculator anymore man. It's good
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It's gonna start we can evaluate then but I will
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take the Panthers to win this one because I do
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agree They are better than they were last year
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And the addition of Brad Marchand has been something
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that I've never seen in hockey before, where
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you add a superstar caliber guy. He plays on
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like literally their third line, fourth line
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right now. And he just buzzes and flies around
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the ice, brings the energy. He's the one that
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propelled them in that, was it game seven against
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the Jets? Or what was that? Or not the Jets?
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They played a game seven. in the series before
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this. No, the Maple Leafs. That game center against
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the Maple Leafs is he looked unbelievable. He
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brought the energy, and I think he's going to
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be the difference maker. And that's why I would
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lean Panthers here. They were already the favorites.
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Adding Brad Marchand just absolutely puts it
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over the edge. I understand McDavid's on the
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other side, but I'm going to stick with the Panthers
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here. I was, you know, last thing I want to say
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on this is I really was hoping the Oilers would
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get balanced so we didn't have a rematch. So
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we didn't have McDavid and those boys, you know,
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extra juiced up for a rematch rematch, you know,
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in the Stanley Cup. But I'm still going with
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the Panthers. How could I not at this point?
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Panthers in. Seven again. Yeah, Panthers at seven.
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God. All right. Well, I'll go Oilers. Did we
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ever define if the Oilers count? for the pacific
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northwest west coast can we just say they do
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so this stupid thing can end and they can win
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and i don't have to deal with this anymore i'm
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down dude i'm down okay yeah oilers and five
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counter mcdavid scores the hat trick in two games
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you realize that your take would be wrong but
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yes but i'm just ready for it to end it's in
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the back of my mind in every major championship
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like in the team west coast you would get all
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the backlash is too much too much pressure Pressure,
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but let's jump over to the hardcore now the NBA
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playoffs. We finally have an NBA Finals matchup
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set up Oklahoma City Thunder, which I think a
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lot of people could have predicted but on the
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East the Indiana Pacers knock off the New York
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Knicks and You know the Knicks were celebrating
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in the second round after they bought beat the
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Celtics that they were the team of destiny they
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were the team to beat and I'm not saying they
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necessarily took the Pacers lightly, but it just
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felt like, you know, they thought they had it
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wrapped up after knocking off the Celtics and
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it was far from the truth. Being wrong. I do
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have another stat here. The last time the Pacers
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made it to the NBA finals in 2000, they beat
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the Knicks also in six games. They would go on
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to lose to the NBA MVP Shaquille O 'Neal and
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the Lakers in six. seems like history is about
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to repeat itself. I mean, I've doubted the Pacers
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at every turn so far, but I'm going to doubt
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them again. I think OKC's just looked amazing.
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Pacers, I mean, look, they could have lost first
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round. I know you guys filled out brackets. They
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could have lost first round in the Milwaukee
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Bucks if Dane was healthy and Giannis was playing.
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Yeah, I think I think I may have as well. So,
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you know. I want to see dame and the honest where
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I wanted to see that work out for them to Milwaukee,
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you know, get dame a ring wasn't going to happen.
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But, you know, Pacers, they blew by them and
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then they get the number one seed in the East,
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the Cleveland Cavaliers. And I know Matt thinks
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that they were frauds from the start. It's fair
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to think that, especially after what happened
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here, but, but, you know, they took, they took
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care of the number one seed, uh, Donovan Mitchell,
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who the first team all pro or all NBA. I guess
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they do a series there there by the to the Knicks
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and you're r thinking they're the team though,
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man, they're, th the spurs. I've said it a look
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like 2013 2014 spurs basketball, extremely eff
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about to go up against o know, efficient defenses
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just gonna be a phenomen I'm excited for the
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Pacers, man. I'm happy for them. Yeah, you get
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the Pacers who don't turn the ball over. I mean,
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Halliburton in their last two wins had 50 points,
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30 assists, and four total turnovers in two games.
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You have that against the Thunder who kill you
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and make you turn the ball over 25 times a game.
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It's going to be fun. As dominant as the Pacers
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have looked, I always go back to how different
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this series could have been. If that bounce on
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the back of the rim on that Tyrese Halliburton
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shot in game one doesn't somehow just land through
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the hoop Instead we're we're at game seven right
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now But he gets that bounce like the Pacers look
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so dominant and they still needed that crazy
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comeback and that shot To get out of here in
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six and then you have the thunder on the other
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side that have just ran through everybody Brian
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just like trying to like say that these playoffs
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haven't been boring the the Fred Van Fleet makes
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$30 million, which shouldn't ever happen. You
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know, crazy stuff happens because the ball takes
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one bounce. That's why we watch scores, man.
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I mean, you can't blame it. I'm just saying like
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it's the I feel like a lot of talking heads are
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going to be like the Knicks got killed in this
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series and I didn't see it that way. No, they
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got screwed in most of their games. I still stand
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by this. I mean, that was that was pretty egregious
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to watch with all the fouls. I do really think
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that they need to figure out something. You can't
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just have people falling for three straight minutes
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to finish a basketball game. Tibbidoz also got
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to learn how to play a bench. I also agree with
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that, and I know you were bringing this up a
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lot. At what point do we blame Tibbidoz if he
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can't get it done? I know none of the players
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are going to blame him. I don't think a ton of
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fans are going to blame him. You know, ton of
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Knicks fans are going to blame him, but they
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really should because these guys, they just look
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tired. You know, we're blaming Katz defense.
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Okay. Well, Katz playing 30 something minutes
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a game. Like how many do you play in Minnesota?
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You know, they, they, they know how to utilize
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a bench. Naz read one six man at the year last
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year while Kat was there. It's just, you know,
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Tips, you gotta be a little bit deeper. You can't
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ask Brunson to bring the ball up every single
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play. You know, they started using Landry Shammet
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a little bit. He was good too. He did a couple
22:13
things that were absolutely boneheaded, but you
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know, made some big plays as well. You start
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giving that guy too many minutes and it'll come
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out on why he's not getting that many minutes.
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That's a really good way to put it. But look,
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I mean, he's not good enough. Like, Nas Reed,
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yeah, that's a good six man. You know, who do
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the Pacers have? You know, Neymar, Naismith,
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McConnell. Like, these guys were productive.
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Matherin had multiple 20 -point games. Matherin,
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although he got sat on his ass a bunch. I don't
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like the way he plays defense. Who did he get
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into it with? It was, I don't think, I think
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it was the last series. I think it was, no, he
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got into a Brunson quite a bit. Maybe, he got
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ejected from a game. Nimhart got into it with
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Brunson too. I mean, it makes sense. It's basketball,
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it's physical. They're driving right through
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each other's faces. There were a couple of drives
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by Cat in this final game, it was game six, where
23:11
he literally just put his head down, drove through
23:14
whoever the defender was, threw up a layup. That's
23:18
desperation basketball. And I don't think the
23:21
refs were necessarily getting that right, but
23:23
that's besides the point. No, yeah, Cat was channeling
23:26
his inner Charles Oakley trying to be those 90s
23:29
Knicks. And unfortunately, those 90s Knicks never
23:31
got it done. So I don't know if you want to be
23:32
them, but. I mean, they I don't know if you blame
23:36
Tibbs. I think Brunson deserves a lot of the
23:39
blame for this series. Why flopping around like
23:43
a maniac? He was getting abused on defense and
23:46
a lot of these runs the Knicks went on, he was
23:49
not on the floor. I'm not saying he is to blame,
23:51
but I think he could have definitely played better.
23:54
Well, yeah, sure. But let's look back at the
23:57
two series beforehand where he's putting the
24:00
Knicks on his back from a scoring perspective
24:02
in every single game for the past 20 -something
24:05
games. And let's not act like it's just his playoffs.
24:08
It was all season long. He is putting the team
24:10
on his back from a scoring standpoint. Obviously,
24:13
there were times where Kat stepped up and had
24:15
big games. It's always nice when OGN and Ovi
24:18
or Josh Hart can contribute 20. I blame Tim's
24:23
because you're asking too much of JB. He can't
24:26
do it all. He can't. At a certain point, the
24:29
stamina, the fatigue, it sets in. Yeah, I don't
24:34
know if you guys saw the press conference of
24:36
Thibodeau. I don't know. Maybe it was after they
24:38
won the game to force a game six or when it was.
24:42
But just flat out, the guy doesn't look healthy.
24:45
I mean, he was shaking like crazy. His skin was
24:48
like whenever you have like a Well, what's the
24:52
word I'm looking for like a long term illness?
24:56
Like in your skin looks like you're like sick
24:58
like badly sick That's what he was giving off
25:01
and like I said his hands were like super shaky.
25:04
So You know, I would say that guy's gotta go
25:07
check out by doctors before he thinks about playing
25:10
player coaching another basketball game That's
25:13
that's what I might take away From from Tibbs
25:16
and this series. He doesn't look like he's in
25:18
the best shape and he's standing a lot His heart
25:22
rates probably go and I'm sure I'm sure it is
25:23
a little banged up after the playoff run. Yeah
25:26
Yeah, I really thought about this till right
25:30
the second but he he gives me Brian Dable vibes
25:34
for sure. I mean he had he now He had actually
25:37
that's a good point. I forgot. Yeah, it's on
25:39
that. It was epic that little station It was
25:43
also a lot younger, right? Yeah, yeah, but he's
25:46
just talking about in terms of like potato shaped
25:49
body type Gotcha tibet has like three Strings
25:53
of hair that he gels and combs back as well like
25:56
for no reason like what like what's going on
25:59
there? I'm not sure but you know you do you bro,
26:04
but Something about people in basketball not
26:06
being able to let that hair go Yeah Forever Shane
26:15
Larkin used to be a neck he plays in Turkey now
26:17
get Tip it over to Turkey get him a hair transplant.
26:20
Maybe bring Shane Larkin back over to they could
26:22
use some I don't know, man No, well, it's it's
26:24
the Knicks right like they've had this run of
26:26
success for the first time in forever You know,
26:29
I don't think they're just gonna give it I was
26:31
gonna go when when he either health forces him
26:35
to or he wants to I don't know if let's just
26:42
say next year this happens again Eastern Conference
26:44
finals loss They keep them around for another
26:48
year. It feels like the same thing as a mutual
26:51
departure. It feels like the same thing as those
26:54
90s Knicks where Pat Riley runs them to the ground
26:57
and eventually the player just got sick of him
26:58
because he could never get over the top. I mean,
27:00
Tom Thibodeau is not Pat Riley, so maybe he has
27:03
even a shorter leash. Running them into the ground
27:08
is a pretty... pretty important stance r that
27:11
and that's what's go the way that tips coaches
27:14
players, their shelf life players. They're not
27:19
mix you know, obviously coming t you can rest
27:24
the whole bun about these games come apr June,
27:29
you know, and we're t or in this case, three
27:35
st Everyone's just going to say, look, you ran
27:39
out of gas down the stretch. What if you just
27:42
get Jay right? I think we talked about this before.
27:45
Get Jay right to coach these guys. Oh, to coach.
27:48
I was going to say, I don't think he's a good
27:50
six man. He might be better than Dillon, right?
27:57
No, he has a nice job set up in the front office
28:01
of the Villanova basketball. front office operations,
28:08
whatever they got going on over there and then
28:09
you know, he does his I Guess he's a March Madness
28:13
analyst. I think he comes on for CBS Sports Store
28:15
in the year as well Yeah, so he you know, he
28:21
doesn't need the headache and the stress anymore
28:23
of coaching especially and the criticism at the
28:26
NBA level It's it's wishful thinking at best.
28:32
No, he's a criticizer now. He's not gonna take
28:35
any criticism No, I agree if he was on He would
28:40
have stayed he could be fun because he's still
28:42
like in great shape like he's in his early 50s
28:47
Sorry, I'm watching this baseball game. Yeah,
28:49
dude all over didn't start today. No, I'm watching
28:52
Stetson NC State to see who plays over Did right?
28:58
Stay at Stetson's up eight five, but NC State
29:02
just loaded the bases And the reason for that
29:05
reaction was Stetson left fielder just went up
29:08
full extension to try and rob a home run and
29:12
he mistimed it. But he did keep the ball in the
29:17
park. If that makes like he dropped it, hit off
29:19
his glove, it landed within the park. So he saved
29:22
a home run and somehow was only a single. These
29:26
guys only got one base out of that. Bases are
29:28
loaded. Shout out Jacob deGrom. Shut up Jake
29:32
deGrom for the Stetson, but I think when we go
29:34
into college baseball, that's where we can wrap
29:36
up the NBA talk. But before we do, got to shed
29:40
some light on OKC, right? They get it done in
29:43
what, five games? There wasn't really much of
29:45
a competitive series at all. And, you know, we
29:50
talk all about the Pacers beat the Knicks, the
29:53
Pacers on this run, Rick Carlisle, I think what,
29:55
six time in the NBA finals, he said to his team
29:58
after the game. This will be a sixth NBA final.
30:01
I don't know how low KC loses. They don't. I
30:07
mean they they handled the Wolves who were a
30:11
very good team, deep team. I mean pretty pretty
30:14
similar, but not not the same. How do they? How
30:19
do they if Pacers beat them? Keep playing spurs
30:22
offense man. I don't care what kind of defense
30:25
you're running. If if you're moving the basketball.
30:28
like the way the 2013 -2014 Spurs did, you could
30:32
win this. I fully believe that. And I'm not trying
30:35
to say that the Pacers are that good. They don't
30:38
have Tim Duncan. But, you know, there's a shot,
30:45
man. I'm betting on OKC. There's a shot. They
30:48
gotta do, you know, chippy, grindy, get in your
30:53
face, play a little dirty, maybe. But they're
30:56
gonna have to throw OKC off their game. I mean,
30:58
you know, they can't just go in and try and go
31:00
shot for shot, man up, man up. They got to get
31:03
them a little rattled. I don't think the Thunder
31:06
are going to let the Pacers try to go shot for
31:08
shot. It's just going to be this suffocating
31:11
defense. And this guy, Boss Rohan, which probably
31:15
isn't his real name, but commented on our TikTok.
31:17
And he said, this might be the scare. There's
31:19
a scary chance this is the worst Thunder team
31:21
we see in the next couple of years. And I kind
31:24
of thought about that. And he's right. And the
31:26
worst Thunder team is. Favorite to win the NBA
31:28
finals like seven to one right now. Yeah, one
31:32
is like minus 480 minus 600 Not even close It's
31:42
not even close, but we'll see the game has to
31:44
be played the odds of the odds the game needs
31:47
to be played I tend to agree with the odds in
31:50
this case. I'm not saying it'll be a four -oh
31:52
sweep, but I think If we just saw them do that
31:56
to the Timberwolves and what was it 4 -1, I think
32:00
at best the Pacers win two games. Minus 700 and
32:05
the favored series outcome is at plus 250 done
32:09
during five. During four is plus 260. Yeah. Look,
32:18
I'm not I'm not ready. I'm not ready to count
32:20
I'm not ready to count the Pacers. I think the
32:26
X factor in this series as is every OKC series
32:30
It's gonna be the whistle I mean if they're gonna
32:33
give Shay this They're gonna continue to give
32:36
him the the flops and the he's gonna get the
32:38
free throw line 12 16 18 times a game Okay, she's
32:42
got this in four. Yeah the whistle the two games
32:45
the Pacers get are from the whistle I just I
32:49
don't know if they even get to I think we see
32:51
okay see win by double digits at home to start
32:54
it off and then game three Halliburton has one
32:57
of those games where he has 30 15 and seven and
33:01
they win by like three points on a knee Smith
33:03
three and Then the Thunder get pissed off and
33:06
win game four by 40 and then close it out at
33:08
home Do you think we see what you know the Thunder
33:14
have been blowing teams out in every series,
33:17
you know, whether, you know, there's a couple
33:18
of close games in every series, right? You know,
33:20
other team might even win one, but OKC has won
33:23
at least one game by like 30 or 40 points. Do
33:26
you think that happens again in this finals?
33:28
Yes. Yeah, they get at least one. Yeah, like
33:32
this is over in five or six games for OKC. I
33:36
really, really firmly believe that they're not
33:40
going to be able to stop SGA. There's going to
33:42
be no stopping him. Do we want to squad ride
33:46
Dorter Chamber finals MVP? No. No, because it's
33:50
not going to happen. What if he drops like 50,
33:53
not 50. What if he drops 30 in game one and then
33:56
shuts down Halliburton for the rest of the series?
33:58
Maybe. They're going to give it to SGA because
34:00
he's going to average like probably 30 points
34:02
a game in this series. Tyrese Halliburton finals
34:06
MVP. So Jack you think the Pacers are going to
34:11
bring back the quote card? I want to I want to
34:15
I want to bet on the Pacers just because you
34:17
guys are value their shot They do have zero shot
34:21
the thunder are really freaking good. I Don't
34:26
know if I'll go if SGA doesn't get his whistle
34:28
They don't put up 80 points in a night like that's
34:31
the only that's the only thing here's a question
34:33
for you If it's if it's the Pacers Timberwolves
34:36
Do you think the Timberwolves are favored to
34:38
win the series? No. I think they are. I still
34:43
don't care. I still think that people, just like
34:47
Tyrese Halburn, people are still thinking that
34:49
these guys are underrated or not giving these
34:52
guys enough appreciation. Pacers, Timberwolves,
34:55
dude, I think the Pacers are a slight favorite.
34:58
Okay, so it's close and the Thunder just absolutely
35:01
killed the Timberwolves. It wasn't a close series.
35:04
Yeah. That's what I'm saying. There's the Western
35:08
Conference edge where the Western Conference
35:10
has been brutal and you know, a lot of good competitive
35:13
basketball is being played over there. A lot
35:15
of good players. Not in the Thunder Series. I
35:20
mean, they're still playing. They just played
35:22
Anthony Edwards and Nas Reed and Julius Randall
35:26
and everybody over there. They killed them. They
35:28
beat them in five. That's what I'm saying. They
35:31
played Jokic. Yeah, no kids probably should have
35:35
won the MVP because he took them to seven somehow
35:38
Yeah, for real, but I've already stated my case
35:41
on why he should want to be But all I'm saying
35:44
is like there's there's there's definitely a
35:46
little bit of an edge for the Thunder being in
35:48
the Western Conference of playing that kind of
35:50
competition But let's not count out the fact
35:52
that the Pacers just won the Eastern Conference
35:54
man. I agree. I'm going to pay I agree. I agree.
35:58
I love Halliburton I love the way they're playing.
36:01
I'm a big Rick Harlow guy. I was when you won
36:03
the title with Dirk and the Mads back in 2011
36:07
and took down LeBron. So I am all, I love what
36:11
the Pacers are doing. I don't know if you watched
36:13
the pod Brian and I did last week. I gave the
36:16
Pacers and their whole front office their flowers,
36:19
but I'm not going to allow my, what I've seen
36:23
with my eyes sway. What what I just you know,
36:28
maybe you want to believe because I like what
36:30
they're doing and okay see has been that team
36:33
that Not unbeatable But unbeatable in a series
36:38
you have to win Four games against them You're
36:44
not gonna do it. There's no other team No other
36:47
team and that's why I'm not giving them a chance
36:49
one for one. The Patriot Pacers can match up
36:53
series I just don't know how the Pacers win four
36:58
games. That's why I'm not giving them a chance.
37:01
If it's the NCAA tournament, maybe the Pacers
37:03
win. Yeah, and I understand that. I think that's
37:06
fair. I think the Thunder have the best home
37:10
court advantage that I've seen in the NBA in
37:12
a long time. And it's very impressive. Shout
37:15
out OKC and their fans. I don't know if we've
37:19
seen, have they lost the game at home in these
37:21
playoffs yet? I'd be surprised to hear that they
37:23
did. That's a good question in Minnesota. Who
37:28
is their second rounds of nuggets? Oh, well that
37:31
went to seven. So did the nuggets just win every
37:33
home game? No, I think they beat We got it when
37:38
it when it went on the road Maybe one but I you
37:41
know There was a feeling after they went back
37:44
to okay see for game seven that the nuggets had
37:46
no shot Yeah, I felt that because of the crowd
37:49
and they started out hot too. I don't know if
37:51
you remember that game seven. It was like the
37:54
Nuggets were right there. It lasted for all of
37:59
the first half. Yeah. So like the first quarter,
38:03
they've lost one game and it was that Aaron Gordon
38:07
put that not put back, but he caught the three
38:10
and then at the buzzer. That was the one home
38:13
game. They lost one game that okay. So he's lost
38:15
at home. Yeah. So, you know that that can happen
38:18
once or twice with this Pacers team, man. We
38:20
saw them do it to the Knicks in the garden. So
38:22
I'm not going to say that they can't do it in
38:24
OKC, but I will say again, another another, you
38:28
know, plus one for OKC is that home court advantage.
38:32
Also, correct me on this. I know this is a stupid
38:35
question, but OKC they have home court advantage
38:38
in the NBA Finals because they had the better
38:43
regular season record over the Pacers. Yeah,
38:46
OK, I think the better so dumb, but OK, better
38:49
seed. No better seed there right there the one
38:52
seed in the Pacers are three. Yeah I can get
38:58
understand that's why they did that but man bring
39:01
back the all star game you want the NBA all star
39:06
game. I love how baseball did that. Baseball
39:17
was cool because they used to not do interleague
39:20
play and the league actually meant something.
39:23
Basketball, it's not going to make him try and
39:25
it's just going to make him bitch when the new
39:27
CBA comes up. Maybe it will. Maybe it will. A
39:31
team like the Thunder, you got Shkae out there
39:34
in the All -Star game going hand because he knows
39:36
he's going to be there. And Edwards, same thing.
39:42
Maybe slightly, but I don't think so. It's never
39:46
gonna happen. I like your thinking Anything to
39:49
make it more entertaining That's all I would
39:54
say but I think Jack's on the Pacers and Brian
39:57
and I will stick with the thunder which We were
40:01
on last year to plus 8 ,000 future ticket and
40:04
you're too early you're too early man, but uh
40:08
We'll see what happens man. It should be fun,
40:10
and we'll dive into I guess more I don't know
40:13
I know I have some some weird travel plans this
40:15
week So we'll see my availability for the Wednesday
40:17
show, but I think you know we're like a week
40:19
out from the fire flood It starts in five days
40:22
Thursday night Thursday night at like 830 or
40:26
9 o 'clock. It's not like a game one So we got
40:29
like four or five days to sit on this All right,
40:33
let's jump into a little Michael the week action
40:35
here up in section 400. Back now for the Michael
40:44
of the week. We will get into the summer breeze
40:46
section or segment in just a little bit here
40:49
for to kick that one off. But first we keep the
40:53
main thing, the main thing. It is the Michael
40:55
of the week. Mr. Jack will kick it over to you.
40:57
We haven't heard from you in a while. Let us
41:00
know what you got. You don't have to look so
41:03
mad about this every week. No, it's my favorite
41:06
segment. I love the Michael of the week. It's
41:12
my opportunity to talk about something random
41:17
or surprising in sports. Do I have that correctly,
41:21
Brian? Yep, that is the definition. Well, you
41:26
know, something that I found surprising in sports
41:30
this week. I was watching Stetson baseball. I
41:33
know I'm watching them right now, but I was watching
41:35
them against Aubrey yesterday and I saw one of
41:40
their players get a big hit and they said his
41:43
name was Jaden Hilton. And I was like, oh wow,
41:46
that name sounds familiar. I used to play baseball
41:48
with a kid named Brandon Hilton and kind of looked
41:52
alike. So, you know, went to Google, power of
41:55
Google, and I found out that it's his younger
41:57
brother. And yeah, I grew up playing with his
42:02
older brother, and now this kid is playing four
42:05
stats in Auburn. Lost Auburn, thankfully, but
42:10
had a big hit. Chill out here. They might play
42:13
again tonight. I know. I know. And I'll give
42:16
him his flowers. They're down two right now.
42:18
I'll give him his flowers for when he gets up
42:20
to bat, unless it's a big situation. But he got
42:23
a hit. We were up like six runs already, Brian.
42:25
It was fine. I was allowed to cheer for him.
42:26
It was a single. No RBIs. Relax. But yeah, man,
42:30
just a small world, small world, played baseball.
42:33
He grew up in New Jersey like me, and now he's
42:36
playing in Auburn after I had a nice career at
42:40
Auburn. No games played, but good intramural
42:43
career. A couple intramural ejections. Did I
42:46
get ejected from the intramural team? You did
42:48
once. Closed line somebody. In baseball? No,
42:53
in football. Oh, OK. Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever.
42:58
Very rattled they get very rattled about contact
43:02
in the intramural collegiate Football it's football.
43:06
It's a rough sport Yeah, but I really I'm not
43:13
a big college baseball guy I know you're actually
43:15
you've been watching more college baseball this
43:17
year Jack and I have Like baseball man. It's
43:20
good sport. Yeah, these regionals have been entertaining
43:23
Stetson Stetson's a good team And I don't know
43:26
if they'll get past NC State to play Auburn,
43:28
but they were different. Good players over there.
43:32
They've been there. Sorry, I was just kidding.
43:35
It just goes to show, you know how good MLB players
43:40
are like for an Aaron judge to hit 3400 in the
43:44
MLB is absolutely insanity. Like there are guys
43:48
hitting 3400 here in this. Who? well he'll have
43:54
a career but there are guys who hit three four
43:56
hundred in college that never have an mlb career
43:59
i mean there is just levels to this shit and
44:01
it's it's it's crazy man competitive as heck
44:04
uh all d1 i mean these guys are playing against
44:07
auburn dude that's doesn't it's creme de la croix
44:10
i mean even the kid on auburn's like five foot
44:12
eleven a hundred pounds soaking wet eric snow
44:14
shout out to the 76ers but he's not gonna go
44:17
to the majors but he's hitting like three something
44:21
He's one of the best players in college baseball
44:23
right now. And you're right. He doesn't have
44:25
much of a shot in the MLB career. Who knows,
44:28
man? He can be the next Saltube. That's crazy,
44:31
man. You never know. But I was going to say going
44:34
back to, you know, you guys kind of highlighting
44:37
the college baseball playoffs here. And it's
44:41
it has been entertaining. I have I can't say
44:43
I've been like totally dialed into every single
44:46
game, but I did see a funny stat. You know, this
44:48
could be a Michael of a week or Michael week,
44:51
whatever you want to call it in itself. I think
44:54
every single team that hosted a regional or super
44:58
regional, whatever they call them, has faced
45:01
elimination or in an elimination game. Except.
45:05
I guess it wasn't all right. Yeah, they showed
45:09
some graphic that like every team hosted and
45:12
Oregon already got knocked out. I think they
45:13
hosted a regional and they got the first is Cal
45:16
Poly. That game was not. So they're already out.
45:21
And I think everybody else, I guess besides Auburn.
45:24
Vandy got eliminated. They would have been eliminated
45:27
earlier. The Wright State coach pulled the pitcher
45:30
with a no -hitter through six innings. And then
45:32
Vandy came back and won. Wait, so Wright State
45:34
won today? Wright State won today, beat Vandy
45:37
in that elimination game. And Wright State's
45:39
going to play Louisville tonight. Bro, that's
45:43
electric. Yeah. Shout out Wright State. flashbacks
45:48
from Wright State from college basketball. Yeah.
45:52
Are they still Horizon League or did they move?
45:54
The Horizon League, yes, with like Cleveland
45:56
State. Gritty League. Robert Morris. Robert Morris
46:02
might be in that. Is Green Bay in that? Yeah.
46:06
Real Gritty League. UIL like Milwaukee. Yeah,
46:11
dude. Or UIW Milwaukee. The team that lost, IUPUI,
46:18
aren't they in there too? Yes. They lost like
46:21
50 games in one year. Yeah, they had the kid
46:25
that set the record for points. Dude, I know
46:28
that league way too well. Yeah, they tried to
46:31
find a, they tried to find or make an extra postseason
46:35
tournament for like seven and 29 Detroit Mercy.
46:39
So this kid could break John Stockton's record
46:41
for points in a career. They never did though.
46:45
Either way, college baseball has been pretty
46:47
fun and it'll probably continue. But Brian, you
46:52
got a Michael the Week for us? I do and I'm going,
46:55
I'm sticking in baseball, but I'm going to the
46:57
majors. I had my white socks slip up earlier
47:00
this podcast because the Mets just played the
47:02
Rockies. Bad baseball teams are on my mind. The
47:06
Rockies lost today. They are now nine and 50
47:09
on the season. They are the first team with 50
47:13
losses in their first 60 games since 1884 The
47:19
1884 Kansas City unions also known as the Cowboys
47:23
started the season 7 and 50 They played in the
47:26
Union Association of professional baseball, which
47:29
was still considered a top league in 1884 They
47:33
finished the season 16 63 and 3 they tied three
47:36
times and their best player was named a man named
47:40
Kid Baldwin. He was a 19 year old catcher. He
47:45
had a 0 .5 wins above replacement. He hit 194
47:48
with a 210 on base percentage. Only three of
47:51
their eight regulars finished with a wins above
47:54
replacement above zero. So my question to you,
47:59
are the Rockies the worst team of all time? Yes.
48:03
Well, the other team you just spent five minutes
48:05
talking about is not real. as far as I'm concerned.
48:09
Kansas City Unions? No, Kansas City Union are
48:12
not real, sorry. We're real, they passed 1884.
48:16
No, we're not bringing up stats from the, when
48:18
we talk about the 80s, Brian, we're talking about
48:20
the 1980s. We're not talking about the 1880s.
48:22
I don't care about what happened in the 1880s.
48:24
It's not a real time period as far as I'm concerned.
48:25
Is that the first industrial revolution, 1880s?
48:30
Brother, I don't know. Yeah, with like the steamboats
48:32
and shit. Yeah, I think so. So something did
48:36
happen. Yeah, look. Brian, we talked about this
48:41
actually on the last pod as well. We spent way
48:44
too much time on it talking Colorado Rocky baseball.
48:49
I already offered my time, energy, and efforts
48:53
to become the GM. I already offered my plan to
48:57
fix the franchise. I've already discussed all
49:00
these things. They're doomed. There's nothing.
49:04
Are they the worst team ever? Like in any sport?
49:06
Is this the worst team we're ever going to see?
49:08
Brian, they have, did they win a game? Bro, it's
49:12
June 1st and they have nine wins. Yeah, but like
49:15
I was looking back at it, like the Bobcats in
49:17
2011 went 759. The Lions in 08 went 0 -16. Yeah,
49:22
I was going to say, how are you not going to
49:23
put the 0 -16 Lions or Browns in there? But like
49:26
it's 0 -16 in football worse than like 20 and
49:29
140. in baseball if the Rockies do that. Yes,
49:31
yes it is worse. If you don't win a single game
49:34
the entire season. I don't think that is, yeah.
49:37
But it's over 17 games versus 162 games. It's
49:41
like not even a comparison. Yeah, but let's think
49:44
about this. There are, at this point, nine games
49:48
or nine nights, let's put it that way, where
49:50
the Rockies can go home and be like... I'm a
49:53
winner today. Or they can kick their feet up
49:55
on the couch and feel good about themselves.
49:59
For 17 weeks, the Browns and the Lions and everybody
50:03
involved in those organizations hated their lives.
50:06
There was no resemblance of a win. And I understand.
50:09
You don't think these guys, they're the worst
50:10
baseball team of all time and the baseball season
50:12
is seven months long. They got it for seven months.
50:15
They got to go home and be like, we just lost
50:17
again. We're nine and 50. Yeah, but for one night,
50:21
they haven't won a series all year. They've played
50:24
19 series and they've lost every single one.
50:27
They're bad. I'm not denying that. But there
50:29
was not a single point during those football
50:32
seasons where they were like, all right, I'm
50:33
happy. Look, the Rockies, even though they only
50:36
have nine wins, I can tell you when they go win
50:38
that 10th game, because they will win a 10th
50:41
game, they will be happy. You'll see them high
50:43
fiving each other. And it won't last long. It
50:46
won't. It won't last long. But you still have
50:49
a couple minutes of of feeling good or a night
50:53
of feeling good until the next game. But these
50:56
football teams had nothing, nothing. But it's
51:00
over. It's over faster. Sure. But then you have
51:03
the entire offseason where you're just thinking,
51:05
huh, I haven't won a single game since 20 since
51:08
last year. Right. Like, like, yes, the season
51:11
is shorter, but then you have the entire offseason
51:14
to think about it. They had Calvin Johnson that
51:17
year. I'm sure all the players just liked watching
51:19
Megatron gets touchdowns. They didn't care if
51:21
they win or lost Okay There is nobody on this
51:26
Rockies team, even if they win a game did they
51:28
beat the Mets today Brian? No, they got swept
51:30
out They did end up losing. Yeah, right cuz I
51:33
saw that no even like even those nine nights
51:36
They're not going home saying we're a winner
51:38
and feeling good about themselves There's just
51:41
no way so We can we can leave that as that they
51:45
are absolutely the worst team ever I've ever
51:48
seen. Before the Sun came up like I was batting
52:12
like once 20 and the or and the Orioles the the
52:17
the Rockies signed him immediately For 10 OPS
52:22
is OPS is barely higher Exactly. I mean if it's
52:27
a joke and Chop it at the bits to get that guy
52:31
in the organization get that guy in the room
52:34
the joke this team is absolute nine wins on June
52:38
1st That's all I need to see man. It's the worst
52:40
team ever. I Think I agree with you. At least
52:44
they have a win Two different comparisons and
52:48
we can agree to disagree there I will jump into
52:51
mine and I don't know if it necessarily fits
52:53
a description of The Michael of the week, but
52:56
I think it brings up an interesting conversation
52:58
I Think it well, I mean it kind of is because
53:03
a lot of people will be surprised to hear this
53:06
guy say this I understand these guys will always
53:10
bet on themselves. But Justin Fields coming out
53:13
and saying, I can be great with the New York
53:16
Jets. Are you buying or selling his stock? Are
53:22
you buying or selling? I mean, we saw a decent
53:24
sample size last year and Justin Fields looked
53:26
like he could do some nice things. He was the
53:29
hottest quarterback in fantasy down the stretch
53:30
when he won his last year with the Bears. Fresh
53:33
start, new team, experienced to an extent. I
53:39
know it's the Jets, but. Look, I like Aaron Glenn.
53:43
Like, I have a feeling that he can come in. You
53:46
don't like Aaron Glenn. What do you like about
53:51
Aaron Glenn? I like him more. I like him more
53:55
than what the Jets have had. Can I say that?
53:58
Will you let me have that, Brian? Sure. All right.
54:00
Look, the Jets haven't had Jack Squat in a long
54:03
time. Aaron Glenn, he's coming in. Maybe he's
54:07
not the answer. I mean, we still are talking
54:09
about the Jets organization here, but it's got
54:12
to be a step in the right direction I'm not gonna
54:16
you know Fields had to deal with Russell Wilson
54:19
hanging over him all last season this year You
54:23
know, he as of right now is the guy and there's
54:25
there's nobody else. So he's the guy maybe you
54:28
know, he's got Swagger Brian stop that didn't
54:33
make Jordan Travis Yeah, yeah, it was definitely
54:37
Justin Fields. It was the reason Jordan Trax.
54:41
He's saying he can be great. Jordan Trax just
54:44
wanted no. I guess I guess look, I'm not I'm
54:51
not buying this. I'm not. Selling this either
54:54
i think there he's gonna be average just like
54:56
he has been he'll be able to win a couple games
54:59
with his dual threat ability but he's not winning
55:01
you he's not getting into the playoffs like what
55:03
would we think greatest they're not winning the
55:05
division they're not Do they go 500 i doubt it
55:09
i highly doubt they go Did he say great with
55:15
the new york judge or great for the new york
55:17
judge I just think he said, I can be great and
55:20
you can interpret it. However, well, I was going
55:24
to say if he added with the New York Jets, I
55:26
mean, that's great with the New York Jets is
55:27
like seven wins. So I think I think it was more
55:31
of a personal comment and not a team comment.
55:36
I think I think he can be good enough to put
55:39
his hat in the ring to be the starting flag football
55:42
quarterback for the U .S. in twenty twenty eight
55:45
for what that's worth. For what it's worth I
55:47
agree with you but like He's lucky. He's not
55:51
like my top 15 or anything like that. Like he's
55:55
No, I agree. I think he'll be fine. I think he'll
55:59
be fun and I think in a perfect world if They
56:05
go. I don't know if they can sneak into the playoffs
56:09
at eight and nine So we'll say nine and eight
56:11
they sneak into the playoffs and pull off an
56:15
upset win in the first round or wild card round,
56:18
that's a great season for the Jets. And if they're
56:21
doing that, that means it's a great season for
56:24
Justin Fields. I fully agree with you there.
56:28
If they can go nine and eight, win a playoff
56:32
game, that would be, I think Jets fans would
56:35
be streaking like the Knicks fans do. Absolutely.
56:39
But I don't expect that. I don't expect them
56:41
to go five hundred eight. Yeah, I would be a
56:46
huge, huge win for them. We're looking at like
56:49
five to six wins. They're going to be three wins
56:53
again. Yeah. You guys think that he could be
56:55
exciting with them. I'm really not looking forward
56:58
to that. The Jets historically had been a defense
57:01
first organization, not one to put up points,
57:04
low scoring games. Justin, you know, they're
57:07
bringing in Aaron, Aaron Glenn, who's going to
57:09
be coaching that sort of mindset. You think Justin
57:12
Fields, man, I, you know, these jets are going
57:15
to average like 22 points a game, 23 points a
57:18
game. It's going to be, it's going to be bad.
57:20
I wouldn't be that bad. I think Justin Fields
57:22
will be running around in the backfield and throwing
57:24
it up to his old college buddy, Garrett Wilson,
57:26
or running for 10 yards. It'll be fun. You have
57:30
the Garrett Wilson college connection, dude.
57:36
Resolve still there. Maybe he can be something.
57:38
I don't know. I think they'll be able to I Think
57:41
when you see it on red zone, which by the way
57:44
Scott Hanson's coming back to red zone next year
57:46
When you see the Jets game on red zone and Justin
57:49
Fields is piloting that offense I think it'll
57:52
be worth watching and not getting mad that they're
57:55
putting the Jets game on red zone More of the
57:58
same thing we've seen from him big big time,
58:01
you know Boomer Buss sort of plays deep balls
58:04
to Garrow Wilson. Sure, Breece Hall breaks one
58:07
Justin Fields breaks one, but don't think that
58:10
this offense is going to be, you know, a driving
58:13
sort of offense. Justin Fields is not a pocket
58:16
passer. He's not a he's not. He's not even as
58:18
good as the throwers like Lamar and Lamar still
58:21
struggles to put together some of those drives
58:23
sometimes. So I'm not there. I'm not there. You
58:26
guys are. I'm not. You're showing the stock and
58:28
that's fine. I'm so yeah, you know what? Put
58:30
me down for his cell. You know, I'm passionate
58:32
out passionate on Justin Fields. He's going to
58:35
where quarterbacks die in New York. I think you're
58:39
going to say the UFO, but I agree they don't.
58:42
They don't usually farewell. In New York either,
58:45
but we'll see what happens man. I thought he
58:48
was fun down the stretch for the Bears and I
58:50
thought he did some nice things for the Steelers.
58:52
It's like the three number three quarterback
58:54
in fantasy with the Bears. The one year I know.
58:59
Are we asking like fantasy wise or we ask the
59:03
real NFL fantasy wise it can translate to Team
59:09
success in the wing column if if anything fantasy
59:13
managers will think he's great. That's got to
59:15
count for something Yeah, I mean I would be a
59:18
lot more excited to have him on my fantasy team
59:21
than I would my actual team That's just the nature
59:25
of the quarterback position of fantasy football
59:27
with the rushing abilities for quarterbacks.
59:29
But that's a whole other conversation, man. I
59:31
don't want him on my real team. Maybe he could
59:33
be my backup quarterback on my fantasy roster.
59:37
I'm sorry. I mean, you brought it up, man. Now
59:42
I have to. You brought it up. No. Well, Jack
59:45
brought up rather, who would you rather have
59:47
on the team, dude? So who has oh we're not doing
59:50
Trevor Lawrence versus Justin I thought about
59:53
it too I thought about it too when he said Justin
59:55
feels you guys top 15 and I was like Well, it's
59:58
Trevor Lawrence in your top team, but I decided
59:59
to hold my tongue We're not gonna do this. I
1:00:03
have Nobody nobody can look me in the straight
1:00:08
it will in the eyes with a straight face and
1:00:10
tell me that they truly believe that they would
1:00:13
rather have Justin Fields on their team than
1:00:15
Trevor Lawrence. They were the same draft class,
1:00:17
right? Same thing with Daniel Jones, man. Same
1:00:19
thing with Daniel Jones. Everybody that wants
1:00:21
to bring up that graphic, just stop. You're playing
1:00:25
yourself. We don't need to do this again. That
1:00:28
was a lot of draft class, dude. Is that Mac Jones,
1:00:32
too? Yeah. Yeah. Mac Jones won 15. That was a
1:00:35
fun one, man. I had a quarterback class. Was
1:00:39
Justin Fields in that? I think he was. Mac Jones
1:00:43
might have not been in there. but I think. Justin
1:00:46
fields definitely work I think all three of them
1:00:48
were yeah yeah you're right. You're right it'll
1:00:51
be interesting to see what. What the Jets can
1:00:55
turn up out of Joseph yes I think it'll be fun
1:00:57
great defined great but let's jump on over to
1:01:01
the newest segment of the pod the summer breeze
1:01:06
what's going on here guys. It is breezy up here
1:01:10
in section four hundred. I usually kick it on
1:01:16
over to you got Jack getting off the tropical
1:01:18
island just in time for some summer breeze up
1:01:21
in 400 I Will kick off the segment I guess and
1:01:26
then we'll let everybody guys Guys go I'm assuming
1:01:31
Brian were you going French open with this where
1:01:34
were you at? I was I was going back to college
1:01:36
baseball But I assumed somebody would go to French
1:01:39
open. I was just gonna go to the French to highlight
1:01:44
the United States men's success. We kind of shat
1:01:47
all over them when Steve came on last week. Rightfully
1:01:52
so. They've been very poor at this specific major
1:01:56
on clay in France, but we will see Francis Tieffo
1:02:01
and Tommy Paul playing in the quarterfinals.
1:02:04
I think this is the first time in a very long
1:02:07
time that two American men have made the French
1:02:11
Open quarterfinals. So we have some Americans
1:02:16
to root for. I know the woman from the US usually
1:02:19
have some better luck and do well in this tournament.
1:02:24
But yeah, man, Tiaffo and Tommy Paul and Shelton,
1:02:27
Ben Shelton played Alcaraz today. If he won that,
1:02:30
we would have three men in the quarterfinals.
1:02:31
That match was so sad. He played so well. and
1:02:35
he just well yeah he needed to get that first
1:02:38
set he didn't get it then lost a second then
1:02:41
won the third it's just i mean alcaraz is the
1:02:44
king of clay right now so it's tough tough to
1:02:47
knock him off his game but yeah it should be
1:02:49
an interesting uh interesting wrap up we got
1:02:52
this week and then this upcoming weekend is when
1:02:54
uh we crown a champion for the record my two
1:02:57
futures that i gave out andriva and jack draper
1:03:01
are both still trucking along How's uh, how's
1:03:05
my boy Yannick sinner doing? Believe he's still
1:03:09
trucking along as well. I gotta say it like you're
1:03:11
sneezing sinner Yannick Yannick But no, I was
1:03:18
sad to see I was sad to see Shelton go down I
1:03:21
think I half -heartedly gave him out as my pick
1:03:24
in our in our picks with Steve, but he is my
1:03:26
favorite American player Tell me Paul. I think
1:03:31
he gets Alcraz next So I don't know if I have
1:03:33
much hope for him. Do we know who Tiafoe gets
1:03:36
in the quarterfinal? I can do a quick look for
1:03:41
you right now, but I believe so Tiafoe won. I
1:03:47
think. It's going to be could be Djokovic, because
1:03:53
they have to play their fourth round. All we
1:03:56
know is Tommy Paul and Alcaraz. So I want to
1:03:59
say he plays the winner of cam nori and jokovic
1:04:03
So probably joke of it. So it's two really tough
1:04:06
tough matches for the Americans. Yeah, I it also
1:04:09
could be sinner I don't know how they have this
1:04:11
going could be draper It could be the likes of
1:04:14
zebra of draper sinner or jokovic would be like
1:04:18
the tough seeds in each respective fourth round
1:04:21
matchup tomorrow Yes, so I think our hopes are
1:04:26
Landing and Coco golf's basket. Maybe Madison
1:04:29
Keys that she's still she's still hanging around.
1:04:31
She might still be hanging around I'm not the
1:04:33
biggest Coco golf fan now, but well, I did take
1:04:38
some time to watch her match yesterday against
1:04:41
Marie Buscova I'm gonna call her bazooka for
1:04:48
the rest of the show. But yeah, Coco beat Marie
1:04:50
bazooka for the first time she was owing to before
1:04:54
and Came in on the clay and did it did her thing.
1:04:59
I was excited for Coco I guess we're not all
1:05:02
fans, but I was I was impressed with her skills
1:05:05
out there for sure. I like Coco I Mean whatever.
1:05:09
I think she tries to like she hates when her
1:05:12
sleep schedule gets messed up Yeah, I don't know.
1:05:15
She is still very young but she tried like it's
1:05:17
like be your own person She's like trying to
1:05:19
like follow in like the Serena Williams footsteps
1:05:22
too much. I think and she just needs like Be
1:05:26
be your own player like you don't need to Be
1:05:31
you you don't need to like follow in her footsteps.
1:05:33
You guys aren't even related Americans among
1:05:40
other things Women yes Yep, that's where Brian
1:05:46
was going with that one. All right, anything
1:05:48
else on the French open before we kick it on
1:05:50
over to Brian or Jack No, yeah When does this
1:05:56
wrap up? Is this next weekend is the final this
1:05:59
upcoming weekend? So I guess it is the yeah,
1:06:02
so Friday or Saturday No Friday or Saturday will
1:06:07
be the woman's championship Sunday will be the
1:06:09
men's championship So they're in France. So I
1:06:14
guess You know Saturday morning Sunday morning
1:06:18
is about when they the worst ones the Australian
1:06:20
open Because they the last matches they're doing
1:06:25
are like to maybe noon Maybe yeah They might
1:06:30
not go all they've been going super late because
1:06:32
they got to get all the games in yeah So it might
1:06:35
be a little before too, but I could see it maybe
1:06:38
being a little later I don't know but yeah Saturday
1:06:40
for the woman Sunday for the men Brian hit us
1:06:44
with one here and then Jack wrap us up. Yeah
1:06:47
back to college baseball for me We're going deep
1:06:49
into college baseball. Let's use Shreveport recently
1:06:53
won the NAIA title for college baseball. They
1:06:57
were the first ever collegiate baseball program
1:06:59
to go undefeated. They went 59 and 0 this year.
1:07:03
They had eight wins by 15 plus runs, a 361 team
1:07:06
batting average, a team OPS of 1 .094, 2 .38
1:07:11
ERA, and they had two seniors, Josh Gibson, who
1:07:15
hit 439, and Ryan Davenport, who hit 425. Wow.
1:07:22
Fuck 59 and oh, is that D1? Junior college. Yeah,
1:07:28
you go Juco. So the weight it holds is not It's
1:07:34
like this is like when Matt starts talking about
1:07:37
FCS football, right right worse worse worse FCS
1:07:44
Johnson and Chad Baker Mazzara came from NAIA
1:07:48
like FCS or Nice chance you different sport.
1:07:54
We got John Franklin. You didn't do much over
1:07:57
input. We have NFL players that came out of the
1:08:00
FCS. So like that's just. Yeah, there was one
1:08:04
drafted. This year. Can't remember his name,
1:08:09
but the Montana State quarterback, I believe
1:08:11
there's been some greats out of the FCS, so.
1:08:15
And that's still the one you're talking about
1:08:16
fucking Juco here. All right, well, here's the
1:08:21
question. It's not even a comparison. The highest
1:08:24
winning percentage ever in D1, or the best record,
1:08:28
I guess. The highest winning percentage was 91
1:08:29
.4. The team went 64 and 6. Any guesses? I'll
1:08:34
give you a hint. It was west coast adjacent.
1:08:39
This is a baseball team? Yeah. From what year?
1:08:45
1972. Oof. Pepperdine. Lou Dort. There's your
1:08:52
hit. Arizona State. There you go. Nice. Glad
1:09:00
I won that. Yeah, they were. I guess West Coast
1:09:05
adjacent one makes sense for Pepperdine. You
1:09:08
got to start thinking about Arizona and those
1:09:10
kind of states. All right. But yeah, shout out
1:09:14
LSU Shreveport. Shout out to Street Sport, man.
1:09:18
We'll see what they got out of there. All right,
1:09:22
Mr. Jack, wrap us up here, man. Yeah. I'm so
1:09:29
glad you guys were talking about summer breeze.
1:09:33
Should we explain what this is? I don't think
1:09:35
we ever explained summer breeze. That might be
1:09:38
a fantastic idea. Well, you know, last year we
1:09:42
kind of ran out of stuff to talk about during
1:09:43
the summer. We did add the 4400, but I figured
1:09:46
we'd add the Summer Breeze. It's called Summer
1:09:50
Breeze because I wasn't creative enough today
1:09:51
and the song Summer Breeze was stuck in my head.
1:09:54
But it's basically stuff we wouldn't talk about
1:09:56
normally. Fine tune on that. We might brainstorm
1:09:59
some ideas. Oh, you're shooting the shit in the
1:10:01
Summer Breeze. It's stuff we wouldn't talk about
1:10:04
normally that we're going to bring up in this
1:10:06
segment, like tennis, maybe some golf, maybe
1:10:08
some NASCAR. Don't think we'll get to Indy 500
1:10:11
talk, but maybe some IndyCar F1 talk later on.
1:10:14
Yeah, I mean, you know college baseball French
1:10:18
open two things I'm not normally talking about
1:10:21
on the pod already said my points there I did
1:10:25
play 18 or 18 holes of golf yesterday for what
1:10:28
that's worth, but Fine we're getting better you're
1:10:33
gonna find me it means we're getting better 100
1:10:36
Maybe I don't know probably not the the Shout
1:11:11
out Ernie and Shaq and Chuck and everybody out
1:11:15
in TNT who's been able to make that such a successful
1:11:19
show for so long. And Ernie did say that it's
1:11:22
not going to be the last for them. They're going
1:11:24
to be back on ABC or ESPN or wherever. But shout
1:11:29
out TNT for giving us some great years, man.
1:11:34
Some phenomenal years. Yeah, they'll hold through
1:11:37
that are coming back though like cuz I know they
1:11:39
have like the girl was it Allie the force or
1:11:41
one of the girls is a sideline reporter and then
1:11:46
No, no, they like keeping everybody together
1:11:50
and then like guys on the sideline or is it just
1:11:53
strictly the inside? Kenny the jet Shaq Chuck
1:11:57
Yeah, that whole team. No, it's just the just
1:12:03
the talking heads. I think even like the producers
1:12:05
behind the scenes are all losing their jobs.
1:12:08
No, I do. I do think Ernie said something about
1:12:11
like the production team is going to stay with
1:12:13
them. Oh, maybe, maybe at least some of them.
1:12:16
So this is going to be a big time for a lot of
1:12:19
people's lot of moving pieces. And, you know,
1:12:22
I just hope everybody finds a good spot for them.
1:12:25
Well, I don't know if you noticed TNT picked
1:12:28
up the French Open. Are they going to be doing?
1:12:32
All the tennis majors I think it's just the French
1:12:36
Open but they're expanding the TNT sports brand
1:12:39
lately because they're starting to do college
1:12:40
football now And I think they want to get MLB
1:12:43
or they have MLB with TBS. They have MLB with
1:12:46
TBS. TNT, TBS are the same, right? Yeah, TNT,
1:12:49
TBS, True TV and now HBO Max Yeah, HBO Max. Wait,
1:12:56
CBS is part of it too? So CBS acquired Turner
1:13:00
Okay, okay, so they have all the I see what you
1:13:03
yeah It's like March Madness. That's how they
1:13:06
do all the that's how they'd get everything so
1:13:09
Turner CBS and Turner just run March Madness.
1:13:14
Yep is what is how that works and they're probably
1:13:16
the best they do Yeah, there's no reason we don't
1:13:21
need ESPN get no ESPN has a Super Bowl in a couple
1:13:25
years. That's gonna be disaster a buck I guess
1:13:27
buck and Aikman won't be bad but Like the visual
1:13:36
experience the viewer visual experience for that
1:13:40
I think will be horrendous and we're gonna get
1:13:42
some spider -bomb and Patrick Super Bowl halftime.
1:13:45
I mean dude like even for what they did Like
1:13:50
the French open for for what CBS TNT all them
1:13:54
whatever have I think is great. Yeah Yeah, they
1:13:58
have like the John McEnroe red zone type thing.
1:14:02
And just everything looks good. I mean, ESPN
1:14:05
just like stick to doing like sports center.
1:14:10
The best thing about ESPN nowadays is just how
1:14:13
they have the ESPN plus random games you could
1:14:16
watch. Yeah, random games. And if you want to
1:14:19
watch early round coverage of golf tournaments,
1:14:21
you can like... Yeah, the featured groups and
1:14:23
stuff. Watch or just the main group at 7 a .m.
1:14:26
Like usually you have to wait until the afternoon
1:14:28
to get to get TV covered So, you know watching
1:14:32
being able to watch that especially if you like
1:14:34
bet on it and you want to watch your guy Like
1:14:37
7 a .m. He won this week Scotty just won Yeah,
1:14:41
I saw he was down. He came back. Yeah, he pulled
1:14:43
it out man. The guy's been on a tear of a run,
1:14:46
but What are you gonna do man? He's uh, he is
1:14:50
the best. He's on a heater. When's their next?
1:14:53
The US Open is early June, okay. So it's coming
1:14:58
up. Yeah, yeah, US Open's coming right up, dude.
1:15:02
See if we can get a golf guy on for that. Is
1:15:05
that next weekend or two weekends? Two weekends.
1:15:09
They got the Canadian Open next weekend. Yeah,
1:15:11
it's the 13th to the 16th is the US Open. Canadian
1:15:16
Open, but I think that's where we wrap this one
1:15:18
up, fellas, no? Yeah. Just like that, we shut
1:15:22
it down. Some Auburn Auburn baseball hopefully
1:15:26
enjoy Hopefully enjoy I'll try and tune in if
1:15:30
I can But other than that we'll try and fine
1:15:33
-tune the summer breeze a little bit better and
1:15:36
come up with better Brian dropped it on us this
1:15:38
morning so we had to react as quick as possible,
1:15:42
but Yeah, I'm that Jack and Brian as always fusion
1:15:46
section 400 Happy summer If you hated Summer
1:15:52
Breeze, let us know in the comments. We'll bring
1:15:54
back views for 400. Shut the fuck up. I don't
1:15:58
think 4 and 400 is going anywhere. Better not
1:16:03
be.