Latest / Privycast / Ep. 124 Feminine Hygiene (Women's Day 2024)
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- 0:01>> Speaker A: Because Gertrude Tendritz took a device
- 0:04invented by a man, sold it in a
- 0:06way that only a woman could. She hired
- 0:09female salespeople, female production
- 0:12people, asked female nurses
- 0:15to speak about the product to people, because here
- 0:18is the gospel truth of sales.
- 0:21No one can sell a product quite
- 0:24like the people who love it.
- 0:29Welcome back to privy. Privy
- 0:32is a podcast about bathrooms,
- 0:35recorded from my home
- 0:37bathroom. I'm your host, hunter Hoover,
- 0:40and I love bathrooms. Welcome back, everybody. Thank
- 0:43you for being here with us. Um,
- 0:47at moments when I get quiet on
- 0:49the show today, you might be able to hear
- 0:52the absolute winter
- 0:55monsoon that is happening here in the Willamette valley,
- 0:58Oregon. Uh, just on the other side
- 1:01of my bathroom wall here is the
- 1:04outside of doors. Uh, and there
- 1:07is a rain gutter that runs along
- 1:09the edge of my home in the back corner back here.
- 1:13And it just sounds like an absolute gushing stream
- 1:16of. It sounds like, uh,
- 1:21when I have what I like to call a thirsty day,
- 1:24when I have a big thirst and I drink way too much
- 1:27water, and then that first
- 1:30big release, it really just sounds like that. But it
- 1:33has been sounding like that. I was listening to it as
- 1:36I was setting up for this record, and I'm thinking that's
- 1:38definitely going to be audible in the background, so the keen and
- 1:41attuned ear might hear, uh, the occasional
- 1:44sound of rushing water. Fear not, I am
- 1:47not relieving myself mid record. It is just
- 1:50the Willamette Valley rains. But I'm glad
- 1:53that you're here with us. And this week's
- 1:56episode is going to be a little bit out of my wheelhouse, I
- 1:59must admit, most things,
- 2:02when it comes to most things bathroom,
- 2:05I'm pretty well experienced. Not
- 2:08to toot my own horn, not to rip my own
- 2:11beefer here, but I really am
- 2:14pretty experienced in bathroom things. Like, I've been
- 2:16there, pooped in that, you know what I'm saying?
- 2:21This week, I must admit, I did a lot of
- 2:24learning this week. Sometimes
- 2:26my, uh, bathroom education comes
- 2:29firsthand. This week, it was not firsthand.
- 2:32If I tried to make this week's bathrooming
- 2:35firsthand, it would be a mess and it would be highly
- 2:38uncomfortable. But I want to be the first
- 2:41again to acknowledge here that as a guy,
- 2:45there is truly a
- 2:47whole aspect of the bathroom experience
- 2:50that is lost on me.
- 2:53For me,
- 2:56bathrooming is isolated
- 2:58to primarily the yellow stream, the big
- 3:01brown logs, or in my case,
- 3:04the brown stream, because
- 3:07often I am a semi liquid
- 3:10situation and God forbid, the
- 3:12occasional up chunk. Now
- 3:15I'm a guy. Male.
- 3:19Hey, howdy hey, it's me, your local
- 3:21male. I don't know
- 3:24if this is your first time listening to privy. First of
- 3:27all, I want to apologize up front.
- 3:30Second, um, there's
- 3:33some potty humor involved in this podcast
- 3:36about bathrooms, I must admit. And if you
- 3:39didn't put two and two together, guy in his
- 3:4130s has a podcast, and it's about
- 3:44bathrooms, and
- 3:46you weren't able to suss that out, that
- 3:49that's going to be a guy making that, like, a
- 3:52man person making that show. Um,
- 3:57now, you know, from
- 4:00what I can tell, being a guy also
- 4:03means that I am more prone to sharing with you
- 4:06the things that I do in the bathroom.
- 4:09And when the stink
- 4:12is a big gnarles Barkley
- 4:15stink, uh, there usually is, like, a
- 4:17courtesy sniff involved. If
- 4:20there's something stanky, you just got to get up on it.
- 4:23Um, I've also
- 4:26begun making a habit of
- 4:29using the turlet, um,
- 4:31in the workday. It's kind of a nice
- 4:34reprieve. You get, like, five to seven
- 4:36minutes, and you just kind of
- 4:39go hit it, and it's great. Um,
- 4:44but there is, as a guy
- 4:46person, there is a bathroom experience
- 4:49that I am missing out on.
- 4:52And for once, normally, I've got a little
- 4:55bit of fomo. Like, I fear that
- 4:58I'm not going to get to partake or be
- 5:01involved. But I'm here to tell you,
- 5:04on this bathroom experience, I am aok
- 5:07with it. I am totally good with not being
- 5:10involved.
- 5:15One of the experiences that I am
- 5:18foreign to as a man
- 5:20is having that monthly visitor of
- 5:23awfulness that is usually met with
- 5:26mood swings and hormone changes
- 5:29and onset bleeding from
- 5:32your nethers. Now, uh, I've got
- 5:35to confess, ladies,
- 5:38I would love if you hear
- 5:41this episode, and I've talked before, I think there are
- 5:44few women that listen to this show, and that's fine. I know my
- 5:47audience. Guys, if you're coming to
- 5:50this episode to learn a thing or two about what goes
- 5:53on, hopefully you do. Um, I
- 5:56sure did. Ah. Uh, but, ladies, if you
- 5:58hear this and you're, like, this misguided fool,
- 6:02he but thinks he has begun to
- 6:05grasp the inner workings of the lady
- 6:08downstairs, please, I
- 6:11would love to have you on the show to set me straight.
- 6:14Privycast@gmail.com. Uh, but
- 6:17one of the experiences foreign to
- 6:19me as a man person is
- 6:22having that monthly
- 6:25period. Now, we are going to
- 6:27say, uh, I should family
- 6:30warning. At the front of this episode here on privy,
- 6:33we try to keep it as family friendly as possible. And
- 6:36while I personally do not
- 6:39believe that discussions
- 6:41of, um,
- 6:44the woman's time of month are
- 6:46necessarily not family friendly. I can
- 6:49totally understand how if you
- 6:52have a young listener, you
- 6:55may not want them to
- 6:58be partaking in this
- 7:01episode, and that's totally fine. This is
- 7:04one to skip. Uh, if you have a younger
- 7:07listener with you, I would refer you back one episode
- 7:10to our episode on Skibbity toilet. I'm
- 7:13sure that the young folks will love it.
- 7:15Uh, but if it needs be
- 7:18said, in this episode of
- 7:20privy, there will be discussion of the female
- 7:23anatomy and the female
- 7:26biological process with
- 7:29some description of those
- 7:32parts and processes. Um,
- 7:34so with that said, we
- 7:37dive into this flow. Oh, gosh.
- 7:40Oh, it's already so awkward. Um,
- 7:43the period. And it should be said that the
- 7:46period, the term period is a more recent
- 7:49term than the technical term
- 7:52menstruation. Now, menstruation is
- 7:55spelled menstruation, and that's
- 7:57just a little spelling remembrance for
- 8:00you. Nowadays,
- 8:03women have a lot of technology to help deal with this little
- 8:06visitor. Uh, and this
- 8:08Friday, uh, at the point of this episode's release, just
- 8:11three days from this episode's release, it is
- 8:14International Women's day. Women. Happy
- 8:17International Women's day. Uh,
- 8:20I'm sorry that you have to deal with this, I guess, is what I
- 8:23would say. And what better way to remember
- 8:26and celebrate women than me?
- 8:29A guy talking about the history
- 8:32of feminine hygiene. Hey. Oh. Let's go. Uh,
- 8:35but before we begin,
- 8:39it serves to describe our.
- 8:42Let's be honest again, primarily male
- 8:45audience, we should probably make some
- 8:48definitions about what is a period.
- 8:51First, it's called a period because it comes from the
- 8:54greek terms perry, meaning
- 8:57around and hodos.
- 8:59Hodor,
- 9:02meaning, uh, the way or path
- 9:05or around the way or path.
- 9:07Eventually, this term
- 9:09periodos shifted
- 9:12into the latin periods,
- 9:15referring to a period or a
- 9:18recurring cycle. And the term was first used
- 9:21in reference to the lady's menstruation
- 9:24cycle in the, ah, 18 hundreds. Now,
- 9:27now that it has been named, what is the period?
- 9:30Menstruation, or in the Latin, the
- 9:33mensies is. Which is interesting because
- 9:36I think mensies, now, it refers to when you
- 9:39are going through.
- 9:42I don't actually know what that is. I'm going to
- 9:45shut up for a second. But it is the
- 9:48recurring shedding of the
- 9:51lining of the uterus in
- 9:54a discharge containing blood,
- 9:56mucus, and part of the uterine walled
- 9:59lining.
- 10:01Wow. Blood,
- 10:04mucus, and uterine wall lining.
- 10:10There's probably someone out there who makes, like,
- 10:13uncomfortable throw pillows. And I'm going to tell you
- 10:16right now, instead of saying, live,
- 10:19laugh, love, it said blood, mucus, and
- 10:21uterine wall lining, you're going to have yourself a, uh,
- 10:25slam dunk on awkward throw pillows. But this
- 10:27shedding occurs when the egg
- 10:30attached to the wall of the uterus
- 10:33does not become fertilized
- 10:36via relations and
- 10:39is passed via the
- 10:41period. Now, I
- 10:44did just mansplain a
- 10:47period, and I understand
- 10:50how foolhardy this is. And
- 10:52I also understand that I am speaking from a place
- 10:55of ignorance and limited Internet
- 10:58research. I also
- 11:01should confess, my Internet search
- 11:03history is absolutely wild
- 11:06this week. Um, more on
- 11:09that in a moment. But that's my understanding of what's
- 11:12happening during a period. You're getting rid of
- 11:15some portion of this uterine wall
- 11:17lighting. My
- 11:20understanding is also this. Having
- 11:23been married to a person who experiences this
- 11:26for almost ten years, she has been experiencing it
- 11:29for longer than ten years. I have been married to
- 11:32her for almost ten years, and that is this.
- 11:35It's not comfortable. Uh,
- 11:38and I think that's fair to say. I don't
- 11:40think I have to experience a period to
- 11:43be able to tell you that it doesn't
- 11:46seem comfortable. I'm
- 11:49also on record on the show saying, anytime you've got
- 11:52blood coming out of your nethers, you
- 11:55have some very, very big concerns.
- 11:58And I understand women. Um,
- 12:02you all are awesome because
- 12:05you have this happen frequently to semi
- 12:08frequently. And I'm here to tell
- 12:11you, anytime a man blasts
- 12:13blood, there is deep, deep seated
- 12:16concern in their heart. Uh, there is
- 12:19something gone terribly, terribly wrong.
- 12:22But it goes to reason that as
- 12:25long as women have been getting their monthlies,
- 12:28they've been trying to figure out with ways
- 12:31to deal with the flow. Go with the
- 12:34flow, if you will. And to begin our journey
- 12:36into the history and development of
- 12:39feminine hygiene, we're going to first explore
- 12:42some of the options for absorption that have been
- 12:45used over the years.
- 12:51As is the case with the history of toilet paper
- 12:54and other materials, humans often turn
- 12:57first to the natural world around them to deal with their
- 13:00bodily fluids. The oldest recorded
- 13:02writings of tampon use
- 13:05are from our good old friend the Ebers
- 13:08medical papyrus out of Egypt. And the
- 13:11ebers medical papyrus
- 13:13details women
- 13:16using papyrus tampons, that is,
- 13:18tampons made of, like, kind of wadded up paper.
- 13:22There are reports of people in
- 13:25Greece using bits of cloth wrapped around
- 13:28a piece of wood. Oh, my. Oh, dear
- 13:30heavens.
- 13:34Just, uh, the thought. I don't have this specific
- 13:37crevice on my body,
- 13:41but I do have a crevice. We don't need to
- 13:43discuss my crevices. I'm
- 13:46going to stop saying that word now, but I got
- 13:49to say, the prospect of
- 13:52yoinking a, uh, quote unquote piece
- 13:55of wood did sham one
- 13:58shay just with
- 14:00rags wrapped around it just seems absolutely
- 14:04backwards. But they
- 14:06seem to, time and time again,
- 14:10turn to materials that are both
- 14:12absorbent. I would say that's a
- 14:15beneficial trait. Um, but also
- 14:17readily available and comfortable, soft
- 14:20like. You don't want to just yink a
- 14:23pine cone. No. Game
- 14:26over. Jelly. If you don't
- 14:28know. If you did not know this. Modern
- 14:31day tampons are absorbent as
- 14:34woofie. But early
- 14:36women, that is, women of
- 14:39old, turned to absorbent things
- 14:42such as wool, sponge, and animal fur.
- 14:45Native Americans are said to use moss
- 14:48wedged inside of a buffalo skin.
- 14:51And I need to tell you here,
- 14:53not all of these things were being shoved
- 14:56up and into the female anatomy.
- 14:59Many of them were being used as a pad to
- 15:02catch the leakage.
- 15:05Leakage? That's a bad word. You know, people
- 15:08get mad about the word moist, but the word
- 15:10leakage is not great.
- 15:13Like, I would argue leakage is worse
- 15:16than moist, in my
- 15:19opinion, but
- 15:22the optics are not great. I have in my brain,
- 15:25when I hear animal skins, I have in my
- 15:28brain just some freshly shorn
- 15:30sheep and this big bag of wool.
- 15:33And the wife just, like, takes wool by the
- 15:36fistful and just bink, just yanks
- 15:39it right in there. And some of these things
- 15:42make sense. We can see
- 15:44how a sponge, or even animal fur, we
- 15:47can see what's going on here. But
- 15:50other materials that would regularly be used
- 15:53include grass. No, please
- 15:56stop it. Leaves. Please stop it.
- 15:59Just. You're going to totally sully
- 16:02the mitt. Like,
- 16:05leaves don't generally stay together. Well,
- 16:08in my experience, even if they're wet, and I don't know if
- 16:11you would want wet leaves. That seems
- 16:13counterintuitive. As
- 16:16is noted, they would use papyrus and
- 16:18scraps of papyrus. Absolutely
- 16:21wild, totally unhinged, in my
- 16:24opinion. Ladies, if you hear this, if you're
- 16:27listening, if I haven't lost you already, if me
- 16:30mansplaining a period to you didn't run you straight out
- 16:33of this place, that
- 16:36has to be crazy.
- 16:38Here in Oregon, as coach Werman shared on his
- 16:41episode a few months back, we've begun
- 16:44stocking feminine hygiene products in all bathrooms
- 16:47at schools. And we're stocking the good stuff.
- 16:53They're cardboard applicator, I think. But for all
- 16:56intents and purposes, they are
- 16:59regular standard issue tampons.
- 17:02And I think we could answer this idea
- 17:05by swapping out all or just small
- 17:08pot, all of these tampons, or at least the men's
- 17:11bathroom tampons. Like, listen, I
- 17:14ain't getting into it, but let's swap those
- 17:17ones out with little piles of grass freshly cut from
- 17:19the school's lawn. It'd be fine. It'll all work
- 17:22itself out. But there are
- 17:25records as early as the 1000s, speaking
- 17:28about the 400s, where women would
- 17:31throw their menstrual pads at men to get
- 17:34them to leave them alone.
- 17:37Nothing will chase off a guy you don't want around you
- 17:39like skeeting a bloody pad at their head.
- 17:44But for a long time, it was truly like trial
- 17:47and error to sort out absorbency.
- 17:50Um, and as time went
- 17:53on towards the medieval period, women
- 17:56discovered that this rad stuff called
- 17:59moss is going to work real well to absorb and be
- 18:01soft. And I imagine it's a fan
- 18:04favorite when the other options are cowhides
- 18:07and loose grass and leaves. Moss was probably a
- 18:10welcomed respite. As you might
- 18:12expect, the discovery of
- 18:15cotton. Cotton has done a lot for
- 18:18us. But before we have gotten to the current
- 18:21issues of cotton in these products, we first
- 18:23turn to fabrics and other textiles for some
- 18:26respite from the grass. In the medieval period,
- 18:29as fabrics and textiles continued to develop,
- 18:32these would begin to be used as
- 18:34rags to both put on
- 18:37the zone as kind of a covering and a
- 18:40catcher. Uh, but also rags to stuff
- 18:43up and into the zone.
- 18:46In time, it dawned on some to reduce,
- 18:49reuse and recycle. And now, as people
- 18:52have turned to reusable forms of
- 18:55diapers and the like, I want to tell you,
- 18:58there was a time when I,
- 19:00uninformed, sparkly eyed and
- 19:03bushy tailed, told my wife
- 19:06that we were going to use reusable
- 19:08diapers because it would, quote, save
- 19:11us so much money. Diapers
- 19:14are expensive, as any parent knows all too
- 19:17well. But here's the deal,
- 19:20friends. There are some things
- 19:23in life. This is hunter
- 19:25Hoover, privy cast
- 19:28money. One, uh, hundred and one.
- 19:31There are some things in this life
- 19:34that are worth spending money on, if
- 19:37you have the ability to do so.
- 19:40Diapers, good
- 19:42coffee, and if it must
- 19:45be said, good tampons.
- 19:51Once upon a time, women far and wide used
- 19:54rags to absorb their flow. And in many cases,
- 19:57these rags were reused on a general
- 20:00basis. Uh, often
- 20:03they would wrap bits of moss or weeds and
- 20:06grass inside the
- 20:09rag to stuff up in there.
- 20:12Again, not all of these were inserted. Many
- 20:15of them served more as a pad lined with material
- 20:18to be worn under the dress to catch the,
- 20:22um, byproduct uh,
- 20:25one of the shining developments of the
- 20:27victorian era is that of chastity belts and
- 20:30other such garments worn by women at the time.
- 20:33These made strides in m feminine
- 20:36hygiene as well. One of these developments was
- 20:39a belt that held the pad and their
- 20:42absorbent materials in place so
- 20:45the woman could move about more freely while
- 20:47on her period.
- 20:50While this was a european development, there are writings
- 20:53detailing the use of tampon type objects
- 20:56held in place by a device called a
- 20:59comma. In Japan, that's
- 21:01K-A-M-A. These would be
- 21:04changed up to twelve times throughout the
- 21:06day. In other
- 21:09cultures, it seems the path through
- 21:12the menstruation was to let it ride,
- 21:15baby. It was totally common to see
- 21:17period, or, uh, to see women with
- 21:20period stads on their
- 21:23undergarments, often just letting it
- 21:26flow when you're outside and
- 21:28working. Let it flow, baby. Like,
- 21:32some of them had what were called
- 21:35period bowls, uh,
- 21:39and they served as kind of like a
- 21:42dish that they would sit over to
- 21:45catch. Now, dear Lord, help us.
- 21:48Here's my only thing with this.
- 21:52If you are a person now or forever,
- 21:55and if you are a female
- 21:58human and your path
- 22:01forward is the use of a bowl to catch,
- 22:04quote the period material here is
- 22:07but one rule. There is but one
- 22:10rule here. You have to have two
- 22:12bowls. You have to. And I know they
- 22:15probably didn't have an abundance of bowls back then.
- 22:18We have a flipjillion bowls today. But
- 22:21if you're going to be catching,
- 22:24uh, I've talked about period blood a
- 22:27lot, and we're only 20 some minutes in
- 22:30here. But if you're catching period
- 22:32blood, like you would catch vomit in a
- 22:35bowl, you got to have a designated
- 22:38monthly bowl like label that crap. It
- 22:41should be said there is little data in
- 22:43writing about what women used for
- 22:46catching the fluids. As it was considered by
- 22:48many a topic not to be discussed. It was
- 22:51kind of taboo, let alone written about outside of
- 22:54medical research. And medical research
- 22:56wasn't really high on our priority
- 22:59list for some time.
- 23:02Unlike many other historical artifacts, we don't
- 23:05find many where specific use can be
- 23:07determined, because many were discarded,
- 23:10burned, or were thrown
- 23:13away after being used.
- 23:17These rags and
- 23:19the period stained rags
- 23:23that would result, especially in the time
- 23:25period where women were reusing. These are,
- 23:28uh, where we get the term on the rag.
- 23:33Finally, there existed in the
- 23:35early 19 hundreds instructions
- 23:39for how to roll and
- 23:41fold a piece of fabric to
- 23:44serve as a menstrual pad, which could be attached to the
- 23:47waist via cord. And as textiles
- 23:50and other industry developed, they're developed with
- 23:53them materials to assist women
- 23:56month to month,
- 24:04no time like the present. We might as well go ahead and get the polar
- 24:07seltzer flowing here.
- 24:10It burns so good.
- 24:14The primary menstrual receptacle
- 24:17being developed at the time was menstrual
- 24:20pads. Pads, if you will.
- 24:23Its development coincides directly with
- 24:26wartime technology developed to
- 24:29help stop the bleeding of wounded soldiers.
- 24:32Now, some people credit this
- 24:34technology to Benjamin Franklin. Uh, old
- 24:37Wendy Ben from last year's 4 July
- 24:40episode, he found his way back home here on privy.
- 24:44It is said that Ben Franklin, during the
- 24:47Revolutionary War era, there's not a lot of
- 24:50evidence of this, but that he began
- 24:52using these nursing
- 24:55pads and suggested that they could be
- 24:57used by women as well in stopping
- 25:00and catching blood.
- 25:03However, by the end of the 18 hundreds,
- 25:06menstruation pads became more
- 25:08commercially available. Others believe that
- 25:11these nurses had begun to rely on
- 25:14their nursing cloths and said, well, it's
- 25:17good enough to stop this person's flesh wound. We might as
- 25:20well stop their monthly bleeding
- 25:24in time. Again, these pads became commercially
- 25:27available with the inventions of Thomas and
- 25:30William Southall's sanitary napkin.
- 25:33Now, here's the deal
- 25:36number. Why'd you have to call it a napkin? When
- 25:39I think of a napkin, I think of me wiping
- 25:42schmutz off my face. Pizza
- 25:44leavings, chili leavings,
- 25:49corn dog leavings, pretty much.
- 25:52Oh, ice cream. I have a beard.
- 25:55And the thing about having a beard is
- 25:58ice cream cones are just a no fly. Like, you're just going
- 26:01to get ice cream all up in your beard. You can't
- 26:04not. And if you figure out how not
- 26:06to, you looked absolutely ridiculous trying to eat an ice cream
- 26:09cone. Um. My
- 26:12path forward as a beard wearer
- 26:15is you just got to fully commit. You just have to commit to
- 26:18the mess. S'mores, campfire, s'mores.
- 26:21You fully commit to a marshmallow just. It's
- 26:24a marshmallow beard in the summer. That's all there is to it,
- 26:27and you just gotta let it ride. But I'm just saying, like
- 26:30Thomas and William Southall, they called it a sanitary
- 26:33napkin. Please, can you not
- 26:36just stop calling it a napkin?
- 26:39Napkins wipe crumbs off my face.
- 26:42Pads sop up bloody
- 26:44downstairs material. It's different, dang it. Words
- 26:47mean things.
- 26:51And while the southalls held the patent, they
- 26:54didn't become readily available until after
- 26:571888, when Johnson Johnson family
- 26:59company made disposable listers.
- 27:02Towels again, towel. Not the exact phrase I'd go
- 27:05for there. These relied on the
- 27:08technology, again, from nurses cloths to
- 27:11absorb bodily fluids and often were
- 27:13found using wood pulp. More on that in a little
- 27:16bit. And fabric to catch the material. Wood
- 27:19pulp turns out pretty absorbent
- 27:23either way. Whether it was a variety
- 27:27of medical practicing nurses stopping blood
- 27:30in the field, or Ben Franklin creating pads
- 27:33to stop bleeding in the Revolutionary War,
- 27:36maxi pads have their
- 27:38start tied to times of
- 27:41war and conflict.
- 27:45These pads, often called sanitary
- 27:47napkins, took off. And
- 27:50Kotex. Yep, there you
- 27:53are, right behind me.
- 27:56It says, absorbs instantly.
- 28:00Kotex released their first advertisement
- 28:03for these wood pulp pads in
- 28:051921.
- 28:09It should be noted early renditions of
- 28:12these maxi pads were more
- 28:14like bandaids, which,
- 28:17if you really think about it, isn't
- 28:20that what a pad is like? Isn't a
- 28:23maxi pad just a lady bandage for your hoohah? Uh,
- 28:26that's what it is. It
- 28:29is. These
- 28:32sanitary napkins were often advertised
- 28:35with a number of belts to keep them in place prior
- 28:38to the use of adhesive. Now,
- 28:42I must make a confession to you. In doing
- 28:45my research, I made a note in my notes here, I said, I got to
- 28:48talk about this. Up
- 28:50until this week when I was doing
- 28:53research for this episode,
- 28:55yes, I had to do
- 28:58research. Sorry. Um,
- 29:04if you would have given me an opportunity to
- 29:06explain to you how a woman
- 29:09fixes a pad to their
- 29:11situation, I would have said that they
- 29:14stick the adhesive on the woman's
- 29:17skin. I thought it stuck to their skin. Like a
- 29:20bandaid sticks on me. Like I'm
- 29:23stuck on bandaid brand baby, because bandaid sticks on
- 29:25me. I thought the pad stuck
- 29:28on them. But I found
- 29:31out that you actually
- 29:34adhese it to the undergarment.
- 29:37So that's fun. It's kind of like a
- 29:39reverse bandage.
- 29:42The 1980s brought adhesive
- 29:45to these maxi pads. From there,
- 29:47progress was made to increase absorbency,
- 29:50better fit for different undergarments.
- 29:53But this little tangent has only explored
- 29:56pads, and as we all well know, there's a lot
- 29:59of different options for women these days.
- 30:04The next probably most
- 30:06primarily feminine hygiene
- 30:08product is that of the tampon.
- 30:12The term tampon, it seems first to
- 30:15have been used in 1860 by R. G.
- 30:18Maine, who referred to it as an alternative
- 30:21term for a vaginal plug. Dear Jesus,
- 30:24help my christian soul. But there was
- 30:27a time when they tried to stop the period
- 30:30by just plugging it up. Pat that cork
- 30:33right up in there. Now, this led
- 30:36to a number of complications, and
- 30:38if it needs be said, hi, I'm Hunter. I'm not a doctor.
- 30:41I cannot stress. I am not a medical professional in any
- 30:44sort. I'm barely a professional of
- 30:47anything. But I'm here
- 30:50to tell you, don't plug any of your holes.
- 30:54Butthole, pp hole,
- 30:58lady part hole, nostril
- 31:00hole, ear hole,
- 31:04don't plug them. They are meant
- 31:07to be open, both for intake,
- 31:10not down there, usually. Well, never
- 31:13mind. And output,
- 31:15primarily peep poop, and in
- 31:18women's case, for our episode this week,
- 31:21their period. So, if it
- 31:24needs to be said, don't plug
- 31:27yourself.
- 31:30And that was essentially the
- 31:32extent of a tampon for centuries.
- 31:35It was a plug with some level of absorbency
- 31:38attached to it. As the story
- 31:41goes, a
- 31:44gentleman named Earl Haas, a
- 31:47physician in the early 19 hundreds,
- 31:49developed a new and more familiar
- 31:52device at, uh, the inspiration of his
- 31:55friend, who reported
- 31:57to have controlled her period by shoving a
- 32:00sponge in her cavity. Now, as the
- 32:03story goes, Earl took a trip to California, visited his
- 32:06friend. His friend. Apparently, they were on the topic of
- 32:09having their period, and they
- 32:11said, oh, yeah, I just grab a little
- 32:14spongeBob squarePants and just skeet him right on up in
- 32:17there. Um,
- 32:20but I got to say, this probably worked pretty well. Like, it's a
- 32:22sponge. Sponge is fine until
- 32:25you move about and it squishes the blood, and it's gonna squish
- 32:28the blood out. Like, that's what sponges do.
- 32:31But there was a very clear problem.
- 32:35Inserting and removing the sponge
- 32:38meant touching bloody marys of a whole new
- 32:41degree. Haas, at this
- 32:44inspiration, decided to develop a device
- 32:47to insert the cotton, quote, plug
- 32:50into the vagina via, uh, cardboard
- 32:52applicators, resulting in no touch
- 32:55technology and a much more sanitary
- 32:57experience. Remember, when we're dealing with body
- 33:00blood, we don't want a lot of sanitation
- 33:03contamination situations.
- 33:06Haas was granted a patent for his device in
- 33:091933 called the
- 33:11catamineial device.
- 33:14It would turn out, though, that Earl Haas,
- 33:17not that much of a salesman, because he was
- 33:19unable to sell the device to companies,
- 33:23Johnson and Johnson turned him down.
- 33:26It would seem that they were still on the listers towels from
- 33:29a couple years back, uh, and that this new
- 33:31invention, if they put their money there,
- 33:34they would have to split their
- 33:37revenue in between two competing products.
- 33:41Haas finally sold the patent
- 33:43and device and the name
- 33:46to Gertrude Tendridge for about
- 33:49$35,000. Now, this is a long time ago.
- 33:52This has been a stack of cash today, too.
- 33:55Gertrude Tendritch was a german
- 33:57immigrant who, with the newly purchased patent
- 34:00rights and business name, worked
- 34:03out of her home to start a company for
- 34:06tampons with applicators.
- 34:08And in true women's day fashion, we got to talk
- 34:11about Gertrude tendritch, because
- 34:14Gertrude Tendritch took a device
- 34:16invented by a man, sold it in a
- 34:19way that only a woman could. She hired
- 34:22female salespeople. Female production
- 34:25people, asked female nurses
- 34:28to speak about the product to people, because here
- 34:31is the gospel truth of sales.
- 34:34No one can sell a product
- 34:37quite like the people who love it.
- 34:40The biggest proponents for something are the
- 34:43people who directly benefit from it. And
- 34:46Gertrude knew that, and she put women to the test
- 34:48or to the task. She paid for
- 34:51females in advertising to promote the
- 34:54product. And as she did
- 34:56so, her company,
- 34:59Tampax, started to
- 35:01grow. Hey,
- 35:04look, Tampax is back here with me.
- 35:07Hey, Tampax, huh?
- 35:10Jumbo.
- 35:13But early on, there was pushback
- 35:16in the area of tampon use.
- 35:19Some believed them to be unsafe,
- 35:22often citing the unsafe
- 35:25practices of early tampons and the
- 35:27hemorrhaging and other complications that they
- 35:30caused. In
- 35:321945, Tampax,
- 35:35the company, began to do research
- 35:38and working with medical agencies to study the
- 35:41effects of tampons. Tampax.
- 35:44Here's the thing. Tampax doesn't just make
- 35:46feminine hygiene products. They do the work
- 35:49to figure out how to make their feminine hygiene
- 35:52better. And what they found
- 35:55over the course of about 20 years
- 35:58was there's little to no adverse effects from the
- 36:01use of tampons. A, uh,
- 36:04competitor entered the market in the
- 36:061940s.
- 36:09Judith Esser Mitog, a
- 36:11german gynecologist, you
- 36:14know, she knows what's going on down there.
- 36:17Developed, uh,
- 36:19applicatorless tampons in
- 36:221940. She sold this idea to the
- 36:24Johnson and Johnson family company in the
- 36:271970s, and again up to this
- 36:30time, these tampons, when they are
- 36:33produced, they are still
- 36:35using some amounts of wood
- 36:38pulp. Unfortunately,
- 36:40wood pulp isn't the most appealing. And
- 36:44I can imagine if you saw wood pulp,
- 36:46you would not think, you know what? I think I'm going to
- 36:49stuff that up inside of me.
- 36:53But they said, we can make it appealing
- 36:55by introducing chlorine bleach.
- 36:59But even more unfortunately,
- 37:02it turns out when you bleach wood pulp, it
- 37:05gives off a carcinogen when reacting with
- 37:08the wood pulp. While the levels
- 37:11that these
- 37:13toxic chemicals, they went to
- 37:16trial. And while the levels were deemed harmless, it
- 37:19was also pointed out that no amount of
- 37:21carcinogens should be permitted to
- 37:24be stuffed up inside of you.
- 37:27Couple this with fear, many companies
- 37:30began to switch to non chlorine or bleach
- 37:33methods of getting their materials produced
- 37:42in these United States.
- 37:46This led to
- 37:49the Tampon Safety and Research act
- 37:52in 1997 in an attempt to
- 37:55create greater transparency between tampon
- 37:58manufacturers and companies and the consumer
- 38:01who will be buying and presumably using this
- 38:04product, this bill
- 38:06continues to mandate for the support of
- 38:09research and the extent to additives in
- 38:12female hygiene products and whether those
- 38:15new additives pose any risk to the health of
- 38:18women or the children of women who
- 38:21use those products during and before
- 38:23pregnancies. Wild thought there.
- 38:28This bill is continually renewed. It
- 38:31is yet to be passed, and it was most recently
- 38:34introduced in 2019.
- 38:38Other than this, tampons have
- 38:41also been the center of societal
- 38:44justice issues related to free access
- 38:47to necessary products.
- 38:49These calls to end
- 38:52taxes on, uh,
- 38:54needed and necessary hygiene
- 38:57products are called tampon taxes, and
- 39:00they've been called to be put a stopped to. And I believe
- 39:03it is of this measure and of this nature
- 39:06that has led to us here in the state of Oregon,
- 39:09stalking tampons in all bathrooms.
- 39:13Much of the fibers in a tampon today are
- 39:16a combination of rayon and cotton and are considered
- 39:19safe in most cases when changed
- 39:22appropriately and at the right time. Turns out if you
- 39:25don't change it, you can get, like, blood poisoning. Isn't that
- 39:28fun? It should be noted,
- 39:30outside of pads and tampons,
- 39:33there are other options to feminine hygiene products.
- 39:36And I'm going to admit, I have to bat to my
- 39:39ignorance here, because you could have asked
- 39:42me a bajillion times and I'd have said that's all there is to it.
- 39:47Pad, plug, or let it ride. Those are your
- 39:49options. But one other option is a
- 39:52device called the menstrual cup. Now,
- 39:56oh, jeez. This thing,
- 40:00first of all, why does it have to be somewhat wiener
- 40:03shaped like,
- 40:06pray tell, why must it be somewhat wiener
- 40:08shaped? But this thing is like a
- 40:11little rubber cup that you just yoink up your zone.
- 40:14Zone. Not my zone. I don't have a zone for
- 40:16yoinking, but that gets
- 40:19yanked up the zone to collect the
- 40:22blood. Big yuck on that.
- 40:25You just get a cup full of period blood.
- 40:28And I also feel like this thing's going to
- 40:30spill.
- 40:33What if you lay down? God
- 40:36forbid. How the heck does that
- 40:39work? So you install your cup and
- 40:42then, oh, whoops, I went prone,
- 40:44and now I've got cup
- 40:47slosh going all over the place
- 40:50down here. No thanks, friend. One wrong
- 40:53turn and you're going to dump the whole cup.
- 40:56Similar to this, and seemingly to hold
- 40:59less fluid, is the menstrual disc. It's
- 41:02the same idea. This seems to just, like, catch and
- 41:05pool it. And then
- 41:08I'm getting, uh, wonky
- 41:11feeling. But I think as the
- 41:14menstrual disc fills,
- 41:17maybe like you find yourself over a
- 41:20toilet or maybe one of those sweet period bowls that we talked about
- 41:23earlier, and then you pull it
- 41:26out. Yuck. And then it just
- 41:28like, flow, flow, flow into
- 41:31the toilet from there. Um, dear
- 41:34God, help us all. Um,
- 41:37these seem weird and bad to me.
- 41:41I don't know if I want to know
- 41:44how widely used these are. Um,
- 41:48I think it's like people being circumcised.
- 41:52Bear with me, friends. Um,
- 41:55there are people that walk around in our world that
- 41:58are not circumcised. Full philistines
- 42:00downstairs. And
- 42:03you just don't know. Like, you don't know what you
- 42:06don't know. And they could be walking amongst us right now.
- 42:10Same can be said for users of the
- 42:13menstrual cup and the menstrual disc. They could just be
- 42:16walking amongst us. And I think the way to test this
- 42:19is to say, lie down immediately. And if they're afraid to do that, they're
- 42:22probably one of these people. Um, but there's a lot going
- 42:25on here. And these last two, the cup and
- 42:28the disc, seem to have arisen out of
- 42:31a desire to reduce waste.
- 42:34Tampons create waste. They're
- 42:37tough on sewers. The plastics clog things up,
- 42:40and they go into landfills, et
- 42:42cetera, et cetera. I think that's why we've
- 42:45got cardboard applicators. Yeehaw. Huh?
- 42:49But one more thing that is foreign
- 42:52to me in this world of feminine
- 42:54hygiene. And the things that go on
- 42:57here is
- 43:00the little silly little trash cans next to the
- 43:03toilet. Now, for years, I didn't know what this
- 43:06was about. I didn't know what was going on here. But
- 43:08these are used to dispose
- 43:11of tampons and other feminine
- 43:14hygiene waste before it is flushed,
- 43:17because, friends, you're not supposed to flush
- 43:20some of these things. Much of this material
- 43:23is not supposed to be flushed.
- 43:25Uh, it will swell up and
- 43:28clog your pipes. And they have
- 43:31created these tiny little trashes in these
- 43:34areas to stop
- 43:36women from flushing it all down.
- 43:39Quit flushing your tampons, ladies. Stop that.
- 43:42Don't flush your pads. I'm
- 43:45pretty sure you don't flush menstrual cups
- 43:49or discs. Just don't flush
- 43:52it. Throw it in the trash. It's fine. Take your trash out more often.
- 43:55It's fine. Just do
- 43:57that.
- 44:03We learned a lot today here on privy. We grew as
- 44:06people. I grew as a human male
- 44:08person. I learned a lot. Ladies, happy
- 44:11women's day. Um, international women's day. Uh,
- 44:14I'm sorry that you have to deal with these things. It
- 44:17seems like a lot of effort and generally an awful experience.
- 44:20Uh, so hats off to you for, I guess, putting up with
- 44:23it. But this brings us to the end of another episode of
- 44:26Privy. Thank you so much for being here. If you stayed
- 44:29here and listened to me talk about feminine hygiene
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