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- 0:03Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
- 0:07Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
- 0:10Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
- 0:13Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
- 0:17Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
- 0:23Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
- 0:27Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
- 0:31Speaker 1: scripted as well. Old rain Drops the trio that you
- 0:39Speaker 1: love when it comes to Summer House and No, I'm
- 0:42Speaker 1: not talking about Sierra, Amanda and West Trifecta too soon.
- 0:47Speaker 2: So Jasmine Blue.
- 0:49Speaker 1: I feel like it's part three, although by the way,
- 0:52Speaker 1: let's give to the intercomeback.
- 0:55Speaker 2: I have to deal with this shit for another week.
- 0:58Speaker 3: I said, Lizzie, and I said, wait a minute, there's
- 1:01Speaker 3: a part four.
- 1:03Speaker 4: I think I feel like I'm refusing, even though somebody
- 1:07Speaker 4: texting me today I was like, can you come on
- 1:09Speaker 4: to cover the fourth part. I wanted to be like no,
- 1:11Speaker 4: because I'm not watching it, but then I was like, well,
- 1:15Speaker 4: it's kind of my job, so see you then, girl.
- 1:19Speaker 3: I need better pressure medication if we're going to do
- 1:21Speaker 3: a part for my God. Today, I don't want.
- 1:23Speaker 5: To see it, like I don't care. I don't care.
- 1:25Speaker 3: Holding those hostage jazz, I feel like I'm being took.
- 1:28Speaker 3: I got took, forget taken, we got took, we got that.
- 1:34Speaker 5: I did not care less. I couldn't hear.
- 1:37Speaker 1: That is funny because it reminded me of back of
- 1:40Speaker 1: my Bravo days when we were when I was doing
- 1:43Speaker 1: The Housewives and the network orders a certain number of
- 1:47Speaker 1: episodes normally like between fourteen and sixteen, and during my tenure,
- 1:53Speaker 1: from like season six and seven, they ordered like twenty six.
- 1:57Speaker 1: So I remember being like, me and my friend Lorraine,
- 2:01Speaker 1: who produces the show, we'll.
- 2:03Speaker 2: Be like and Ray, we'll be like, we're tired, and
- 2:07Speaker 2: I think the audience.
- 2:08Speaker 1: But when the ratings are rat they're like, so we're
- 2:14Speaker 1: gonna be milked this Summer house reunion. But what I
- 2:18Speaker 1: will say is part three, Lindsey Hubbard, we'll get to
- 2:23Speaker 1: you later.
- 2:26Speaker 2: The way you told Andy you feel like nothing of
- 2:28Speaker 2: us all. We'll get to that. But I think we
- 2:31Speaker 2: got some information about flu and jazz leting know what
- 2:34Speaker 2: you think.
- 2:35Speaker 1: So this is all about the timeline, the receipts and
- 2:40Speaker 1: everything in between. So Wes did say because West was prepped,
- 2:46Speaker 1: not by his beta blockers. He clearly was prepped by
- 2:50Speaker 1: whatever team he hired crisis management.
- 2:55Speaker 2: That Amanda heard used child or is it Amber heard?
- 2:57Speaker 1: Amber heard used, so Wesi, that's a I'm joking brain
- 3:03Speaker 1: jobs eating higher Amber Herd's crisis management team.
- 3:06Speaker 2: Okay. Wes said that in February.
- 3:10Speaker 1: Or March of twenty twenty five that he and Amanda
- 3:14Speaker 1: were hanging out and that he was just happy to
- 3:18Speaker 1: see her happy. Amanda said, you know, she echoed that
- 3:24Speaker 1: same sentiment, and this is when they started to reveal
- 3:29Speaker 1: that feelings started to develop.
- 3:33Speaker 2: Jasmine, do you call bullshit on this?
- 3:36Speaker 1: Well?
- 3:37Speaker 4: Wait, it wasn't twenty twenty five, it was this this year.
- 3:41Speaker 2: Correct, I'm sorry?
- 3:43Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, do I go bullshit?
- 3:48Speaker 4: Jerry's so out on that because because because I feel
- 3:51Speaker 4: like him saying like seeing her happy made him happy.
- 3:54Speaker 5: That is such like a.
- 3:55Speaker 6: Friend thing to say.
- 3:56Speaker 4: Like think about like watching a friend that you have
- 3:58Speaker 4: that's in a relationship you think is like super toxic
- 4:01Speaker 4: and then you finally like get them out of the
- 4:03Speaker 4: house and they're they're chilling. You guys are going to
- 4:05Speaker 4: hang out with their other friends, and you see them happy,
- 4:08Speaker 4: it is it does make you happy as a friend.
- 4:11Speaker 4: So I'm like, that doesn't feel weird to me. That
- 4:14Speaker 4: sounds like a very platonic thing to say. Obviously, everything
- 4:17Speaker 4: we know now about them, everything looks suspicious, like everything
- 4:22Speaker 4: looks shady in the light.
- 4:23Speaker 6: So I don't know. I don't call bullshit. I'm the
- 4:27Speaker 6: jury still out for me.
- 4:28Speaker 5: What about you, blue.
- 4:32Speaker 1: Child?
- 4:33Speaker 3: I told myself, I'm at this resort, I'm going to bath.
- 4:37Speaker 3: I'm meditated before today. Man, Look, there are several theories
- 4:43Speaker 3: out there that I and Jesse. I feel like you've
- 4:45Speaker 3: probably heard a lot of the theories. One of them
- 4:48Speaker 3: is when Amanda said they weren't sexual to the statement,
- 4:50Speaker 3: and everybody now believes the statement she's talking about is
- 4:53Speaker 3: her and Kyle's statement, not her in West's statement.
- 4:56Speaker 5: I haven't seen that.
- 4:57Speaker 3: No, Yeah, people are like when Weston answered, Amanda said
- 5:02Speaker 3: after the statement, Wes's body language stiffened and she doubled
- 5:06Speaker 3: down because she didn't say which statement, and that if
- 5:09Speaker 3: I did which January and Kyle said she rushed him
- 5:16Speaker 3: to make that statement and said we have to do
- 5:18Speaker 3: it now. She wanted some dip sorry, she wanted some dip.
- 5:22Speaker 3: So if that theory and think about this, right, if
- 5:27Speaker 3: the theory that the statement because Amanda chooses her words carefully,
- 5:30Speaker 3: because you guys know, I think she's a suckubist. But
- 5:33Speaker 3: if a mana choose her words carefully, she says statements,
- 5:35Speaker 3: so she's not technically lying, right, And she was rushing
- 5:40Speaker 3: Kyle so heavily because of the statement, and she said
- 5:43Speaker 3: last week, I woke up on New Year's Day and
- 5:46Speaker 3: realized this needed to end. There's been video that's come
- 5:49Speaker 3: out now of Wes on New Year's Eve and Amanda's
- 5:52Speaker 3: jacket is in the frame. Who First of all, look journalism, okay.
- 6:00Speaker 1: Never had time with their hands to do that. Come
- 6:03Speaker 1: work with Kingdom Rate Entertainment. We are accepting applications the
- 6:07Speaker 1: way I.
- 6:07Speaker 3: Was gonna flood y'all with video. I said that Blue,
- 6:09Speaker 3: you can't keep on sending these people's videos. It's three am.
- 6:11Speaker 3: They're gonna take you're crazy. But in the videos, because
- 6:13Speaker 3: you know, okay, I like research. Maybe I'll start doing
- 6:17Speaker 3: that before part four that we're being held captive. But
- 6:20Speaker 3: they literally showed Amanda in the opening episode. I think
- 6:23Speaker 3: it was of in the city. She's wearing this Hounds
- 6:26Speaker 3: Too jacket, right, and Wes has her and westby sharing clothes.
- 6:30Speaker 3: They have similar tastes because they both have boys, and
- 6:33Speaker 3: that same house too jacket is in the frame of
- 6:36Speaker 3: West dancing on New Year's Eve wherever he was. So
- 6:39Speaker 3: if we go with this threat and we pull it
- 6:41Speaker 3: and Amanda's with West on New Year's even stead of Kyle, right,
- 6:45Speaker 3: and she wakes up that morning and says, yeah, it's
- 6:48Speaker 3: over now. Kyle is like, why are you rushing me
- 6:50Speaker 3: to break up with? Like first to put out this
- 6:52Speaker 3: statement in the beginning of January? What's going on? And
- 6:55Speaker 3: then she says she didn't get no until after the statement.
- 6:59Speaker 3: The point of tension in part three is the fact
- 7:02Speaker 3: that everyone's saying, well, why would Dave Portnoy say, by
- 7:04Speaker 3: the time it got to the Super Bowl a month later,
- 7:07Speaker 3: first week of February, that your friends were already seeing
- 7:10Speaker 3: you as a couple. Well, my friends would be seeing
- 7:12Speaker 3: me as a couple if I spent New Year's Eve
- 7:14Speaker 3: with him. Made my husband put out a statement under
- 7:16Speaker 3: dress and started getting piped down in the weeks leading
- 7:19Speaker 3: up to the Super Bowl. So I just think it's
- 7:20Speaker 3: funny that all these theories tend to click in perfectly
- 7:24Speaker 3: with the point of contention that the investigators known as
- 7:27Speaker 3: Sierra and Kyle and Lindsay have brought up. It all
- 7:30Speaker 3: clicks in perfectly. If the statement she's talking about was
- 7:34Speaker 3: doing in January and not the one that happened in April.
- 7:37Speaker 1: Well, I actually believe that theory because the thing is this,
- 7:40Speaker 1: The reason why Amanda and West failed miserably at this
- 7:45Speaker 1: reunion is because, yes, it was the pressures of the
- 7:49Speaker 1: audience watching and being dragging all those things, and.
- 7:51Speaker 2: That is that it's something serious.
- 7:53Speaker 1: But also they were overly prepped and me being a producer,
- 7:59Speaker 1: y'all know this.
- 8:00Speaker 2: You two know this, and I think my audience knows this.
- 8:02Speaker 1: Anytime there's a reunion rain Drops, the casts have meetings, they.
- 8:07Speaker 2: Go over things.
- 8:08Speaker 1: They're overly prepare themselves. That's why we have this thing
- 8:11Speaker 1: called rehearsed reads, because they're overly prepared for the assignment.
- 8:16Speaker 1: And Sierra and West timeline Amanda not add up to me.
- 8:22Speaker 1: And I now believe this theory because even when Mia
- 8:28Speaker 1: was clocking it like hold on but you, Amanda was
- 8:33Speaker 1: running into West's arm when he came through the door
- 8:37Speaker 1: and I said, Amanda did her I'm not mad that
- 8:39Speaker 1: Mia did her research, baby, and they flashed back to
- 8:42Speaker 1: it and she had another example where Wes is grabbing
- 8:47Speaker 1: I mean, he's hugging Amanda and like grabs her breast,
- 8:51Speaker 1: so like from the back.
- 8:52Speaker 3: None of my homeboys grabbed me from the back under
- 8:55Speaker 3: my teeth, that's Lindsay.
- 8:57Speaker 4: And Mia said that you've never grabbed You've never grabbed
- 8:59Speaker 4: us life like that, and it was so weird when
- 9:03Speaker 4: they played back. I remember watching that episode and being
- 9:05Speaker 4: but obviously when you watch this entire season, nothing gets
- 9:08Speaker 4: past you now because it's a horror show.
- 9:11Speaker 5: Everything looked suspicious.
- 9:12Speaker 4: But I remember watching that episode like if there was
- 9:15Speaker 4: any reason for me to believe that they started some
- 9:17Speaker 4: shit last summer, this is this is now my proof.
- 9:20Speaker 4: Like this makes me look at them very much sideways.
- 9:23Speaker 6: It was that and like.
- 9:24Speaker 4: I told you, Carlos and we were talking about that,
- 9:26Speaker 4: that when she was happy that West pulled her or
- 9:30Speaker 4: pulled his chair next to her, I'm glad. Mia said that,
- 9:32Speaker 4: like you were fine with us in the kitchen, and
- 9:35Speaker 4: then it wasn't until you saw West and you walked.
- 9:37Speaker 5: Up when you pulled your chair up next to me.
- 9:40Speaker 2: I went to run to you.
- 9:42Speaker 3: It was Whendy, you still playing in the background. I'm like, girl,
- 9:44Speaker 3: what happened?
- 9:46Speaker 5: Like you were so emotional.
- 9:48Speaker 3: I do believe it's an emotional fair. The reason why
- 9:50Speaker 3: I'm calling bullshit is based on all the intel I've
- 9:53Speaker 3: been doing. I need to touch some grass. It feels
- 9:56Speaker 3: like they are resting on the laura of They didn't
- 9:59Speaker 3: sleep each other penetration wise until January when that statement
- 10:03Speaker 3: came out, and the fact that they've been having an
- 10:06Speaker 3: emotional affair with extra touchy feely the amount of times
- 10:09Speaker 3: that Wes's mouth touched a man of scalp fore head,
- 10:12Speaker 3: kisses back of the head, kisses side of head. If
- 10:15Speaker 3: she had a kitchen, he'd be kissing that. I'm so sorry.
- 10:18Speaker 3: That is not friendship. Okay, girls, when we hang out
- 10:21Speaker 3: in public, I don't want you kissing in the back
- 10:23Speaker 3: of my neck. I'm gonna start to have to call
- 10:24Speaker 3: Lindsey for hr right. That's not friendship. Can we all
- 10:28Speaker 3: admit we saw an emotional affair that got sexual in
- 10:32Speaker 3: January after the statement.
- 10:34Speaker 4: And Kyle was low key clocking that, did you guys?
- 10:36Speaker 4: Hear at that point when Kyle was like, he was like,
- 10:39Speaker 4: I'm gonna ask you one more time, like was there
- 10:41Speaker 4: any like physical thing, And Lindsey was like, well it
- 10:44Speaker 4: was emotional and Kyle was like, well I can't prove that, right,
- 10:47Speaker 4: like Kyle, no, Kyle, yeah, yeah, No.
- 10:51Speaker 1: It's interesting because even when Amanda said that, you know,
- 10:55Speaker 1: when they asked her like what made you want to
- 10:58Speaker 1: come clean?
- 10:59Speaker 2: You know, you come clean because of a speculation.
- 11:03Speaker 1: Or because of your friendship for Sierra, she was like, no,
- 11:06Speaker 1: I can't clean because of the speculation, Like it had
- 11:09Speaker 1: nothing to do with my friendship with Sea Era at all.
- 11:13Speaker 1: And that's when you did realize, like you really, unfortunately
- 11:18Speaker 1: are just a terrible person.
- 11:19Speaker 3: Well, she didn't just say speculation, she said Mia. She
- 11:22Speaker 3: said she came forward because she was trying to figure
- 11:26Speaker 3: out there was speculation, and she was also when he
- 11:30Speaker 3: said why are you messed up? Though, like why are
- 11:31Speaker 3: you messed up about this? Right? And she said I
- 11:33Speaker 3: messed up about this is because of Sierra, you know,
- 11:36Speaker 3: and the friendship, and she the worst come out her mouth.
- 11:38Speaker 3: She said, well, I was trying to figure out what
- 11:39Speaker 3: was happening with him and Mia, and I was and
- 11:41Speaker 3: I was like, wait a minute, pause pause, pause, pause, pause,
- 11:43Speaker 3: Oh sorry, may you know I can't me and I
- 11:47Speaker 3: may I apologistis I'm bad with names and vowels. Chiad.
- 11:49Speaker 3: You got a lot of vowels. I'm gonna call her
- 11:52Speaker 3: M right, lady m that's some pick me behavior when
- 11:56Speaker 3: you're already messing with the guy that broke your best
- 11:59Speaker 3: friend's heart. You're not worried about her feelings. You're worried
- 12:01Speaker 3: about being a pick me to his current girlfriend, who
- 12:03Speaker 3: you're trying to win against. The fact that you mentioned
- 12:07Speaker 3: the girlfriend's name and not Sierra and what was stressing
- 12:09Speaker 3: you out during that time tells me you just want
- 12:11Speaker 3: to win West you didn't care about Sierra. That's nasty work.
- 12:14Speaker 3: Bruh m hm ugh.
- 12:19Speaker 1: Dude, you guys, what were your thoughts when the whole
- 12:23Speaker 1: pronounce your names.
- 12:25Speaker 5: Means it's mayha.
- 12:27Speaker 4: So they keep saying me ha on this, yeah they do.
- 12:29Speaker 4: But somebody on threads is like, it's may Ha. Well,
- 12:33Speaker 4: you know what, now that I think about it, Why am.
- 12:34Speaker 6: I believing somebody on threads?
- 12:36Speaker 3: It's like cans and cons. You don't you know, if
- 12:38Speaker 3: we can't say cans or cons, we still don't know
- 12:40Speaker 3: which one it is. Which one is I.
- 12:42Speaker 6: Always say, I always say Khan, I.
- 12:44Speaker 3: Fancy yeah, somebody we're trying to sound fancy tomato.
- 12:48Speaker 4: But it might be I'm editing a video right now
- 12:52Speaker 4: where I constantly say tomato because it hilarious.
- 12:55Speaker 3: So that's why you say, all right, so let's see her, lady.
- 12:58Speaker 3: And I think Sierra and the ex Joining Forces is
- 13:03Speaker 3: a little delicious, a lot of messy, but a little
- 13:07Speaker 3: delicious because she's the thing. The fact that even in
- 13:10Speaker 3: the preview we are jumping ahead in the preview for
- 13:12Speaker 3: episode four when we get took as an audience and
- 13:14Speaker 3: have to watch this another week, when they talk about
- 13:18Speaker 3: how Mayhaw or me, how we don't know which one says.
- 13:21Speaker 3: After the reunion, Wes texted her, you win, You won
- 13:26Speaker 3: like you bested me in this game of chess. That
- 13:28Speaker 3: is how you bolog What did y'all feel about that?
- 13:31Speaker 3: How did y'all feel knowing that the fourth wall is
- 13:34Speaker 3: crumbling in front of our eyes as.
- 13:35Speaker 2: Much it had to it had to.
- 13:37Speaker 1: The thing is this every And that's why I was
- 13:39Speaker 1: saying how Wes and Amanda were overly prepped to the
- 13:44Speaker 1: point where there was nothing humanizing about them because they
- 13:49Speaker 1: wanted to make sure to not have America hate us
- 13:52Speaker 1: any further, which was why, in hindsight, I do appreciate
- 13:56Speaker 1: brab Over saying, let's remove the stage lights, the beautiful
- 13:59Speaker 1: guy here, we the Franklin and just focus more on
- 14:03Speaker 1: the verite of seeing these people back in New York
- 14:05Speaker 1: City in their tiny apartments having a conversation and with
- 14:10Speaker 1: no makeup because no shade.
- 14:11Speaker 2: I was like, who are these people?
- 14:13Speaker 1: It's my first time watching this show, right, and I'm like, oh,
- 14:15Speaker 1: this has been without glam got it? So yes, I
- 14:19Speaker 1: do believe that when it comes to West, something just
- 14:23Speaker 1: is off about that because even when he revealed that
- 14:27Speaker 1: he was not in an exclusive relationship with Lady m
- 14:30Speaker 1: miha maiha, and Sierra was like, but you sent her
- 14:34Speaker 1: flowers on Valentine's Day.
- 14:37Speaker 3: Like that's boyfriend behavior.
- 14:41Speaker 1: Now, as somebody who don't have holes in different area codes.
- 14:45Speaker 1: If you're seeing someone flowers on Valentine's Day.
- 14:50Speaker 3: Fourteen months in so it's not noon fourteen months of
- 14:53Speaker 3: a non relationship.
- 14:55Speaker 1: It now makes sense why, yes, she really did think
- 14:58Speaker 1: you guys were in an exclusive relationship.
- 15:01Speaker 5: Dominate West is a fuck boy.
- 15:05Speaker 4: Wes is the fuck boy, like, of course, like you
- 15:08Speaker 4: strung this girl along. You said, she thought you guys
- 15:11Speaker 4: are in an exclusive relationship, but you weren't in one,
- 15:15Speaker 4: Like you were totally telling her that she was your girlfriend.
- 15:18Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
- 15:19Speaker 4: So it's like, none of this is new, none of
- 15:21Speaker 4: this shocks me about him, because what we know about
- 15:23Speaker 4: him is that he's a fuck boy and that's just
- 15:26Speaker 4: what fuck boys do.
- 15:27Speaker 3: And Amanda's a fuck boy trapper though, and she's very
- 15:30Speaker 3: good at trapping fuck boys. And I think it's interesting
- 15:34Speaker 3: that Wes admitted he was not exclusive to Amanda until
- 15:37Speaker 3: she forced him to put out the statement. Again, she
- 15:41Speaker 3: this woman, Kyle and Western two fuck boys, and she's
- 15:45Speaker 3: a fuck boy trapper. There's a hierarchy here. And the
- 15:47Speaker 3: minutes at the top, he said, they were like, why
- 15:50Speaker 3: didn't you become exclusive? Well after the statement, a gun
- 15:53Speaker 3: had no George because now the whole world, you know.
- 15:55Speaker 3: So I the same way she forced Kyle to put
- 15:58Speaker 3: out statement number one so she could get some peen,
- 16:00Speaker 3: she forced West to put out statement number two because
- 16:02Speaker 3: in her own words, she was worried by Maya or Miha. Right,
- 16:05Speaker 3: So it's like the first one gets me out of
- 16:07Speaker 3: this mess so I can get laid. The second one
- 16:10Speaker 3: makes him exclusive to me because his actual girlfriend is
- 16:12Speaker 3: still lingering. That is entrapment. In my opinion, that is
- 16:18Speaker 3: this girl. And I will say this. I put a
- 16:20Speaker 3: note when Kyle said he was texting West while West
- 16:24Speaker 3: was in Miami about him and Amanda not having a
- 16:26Speaker 3: sex life, not knowing Amanda was sitting next to him.
- 16:29Speaker 3: That broke my heart. And I don't cry for white
- 16:31Speaker 3: men very often. That broke my heart.
- 16:35Speaker 4: Girl and guy, Okay, I literally put that in my
- 16:38Speaker 4: notes too, and.
- 16:39Speaker 5: It says heartbreaking. It's so heartbreaking.
- 16:42Speaker 4: Literally that Kyle texting us about their sex life while
- 16:45Speaker 4: he was out with Amanda is so heartbreaking.
- 16:47Speaker 3: I knew we'd be on the same page. That's nasty word.
- 16:50Speaker 5: That was so fucking sad.
- 16:52Speaker 4: Like there were a couple of instances, like on this
- 16:54Speaker 4: reunion stage where I was like, you can feel how
- 16:56Speaker 4: you want to feel about like the way Kyle was
- 16:58Speaker 4: as a husband, and we just display from him. This
- 17:02Speaker 4: show was actually very sad to see all multiple fronts
- 17:04Speaker 4: because I have historically all three parts.
- 17:08Speaker 5: Since the scandal broke.
- 17:10Speaker 4: Carlos, I have been kind of like I don't know,
- 17:12Speaker 4: like if I really want, like if I really believe
- 17:14Speaker 4: that's Erra and Amanda were like best friends like that.
- 17:17Speaker 5: This whole display of.
- 17:18Speaker 4: This reunion, I was like, renig, I'm a renigger because
- 17:22Speaker 4: I'm taking back. It was so sad, like Sierra crying,
- 17:27Speaker 4: like them playing the clips back of Sierra uplifting Amanda
- 17:30Speaker 4: before they left the house, like Amanda even saying like
- 17:33Speaker 4: Andy asking them flat out like were you guys friends
- 17:36Speaker 4: for the show? I guess a question came in, were
- 17:38Speaker 4: you guys just friends for the show or were you
- 17:39Speaker 4: really close friends in real life?
- 17:41Speaker 5: And Amanda saying no, we were really close friends in
- 17:43Speaker 5: real life.
- 17:44Speaker 4: Every display from this reunion had me like in my
- 17:48Speaker 4: chest so many different MoMA hit me in my chest
- 17:50Speaker 4: and I was like.
- 17:50Speaker 5: This is actually very very sad.
- 17:53Speaker 6: Take the TV out of it, take the entertainment out
- 17:55Speaker 6: of it.
- 17:55Speaker 5: This shit is just like really sad for real.
- 17:58Speaker 3: Just sobbing.
- 18:00Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 18:00Speaker 1: Even so, speaking of Sierra and Amanda's friendship, when they
- 18:03Speaker 1: play the montage of their friendship and again first time
- 18:07Speaker 1: watching this show, I was like, Oh, you guys really
- 18:10Speaker 1: were best friends, Like to be able to see that
- 18:14Speaker 1: and Amanda's being stone cold after they play the package
- 18:18Speaker 1: and she's like, look, I was a friend who did
- 18:21Speaker 1: a really shitty thing, and Sierra said, you're still doing
- 18:24Speaker 1: a really shitty thing. And the part that I wanted
- 18:29Speaker 1: to get your ladies on is when si Era pretty
- 18:33Speaker 1: much tells Amanda that he is with you to spike me.
- 18:38Speaker 4: I still don't buy that. I still don't agree with that.
- 18:42Speaker 4: I don't think I don't think West cares enough about
- 18:45Speaker 4: Sierra to like deliberately go after Amanda just to spite her.
- 18:49Speaker 4: Is that a byproduct of it? Possibly, but I don't
- 18:52Speaker 4: think that was his goal here, because Sierra's biggest complaint
- 18:55Speaker 4: about Wes was that he doesn't see her right, So,
- 18:58Speaker 4: like someone who doesn't see you, they can't like concoct
- 19:01Speaker 4: a plan to just go after your best friends who
- 19:03Speaker 4: spite you if they don't really see you in that way.
- 19:06Speaker 4: So I just don't think that that was his sole
- 19:08Speaker 4: motivation in doing this and going after Amanda.
- 19:12Speaker 3: I think someone who doesn't see you doesn't put that
- 19:15Speaker 3: much energy into you until everybody else sees you and
- 19:18Speaker 3: they resent the fact that they didn't see you coming.
- 19:21Speaker 3: So for me, I think here's the part and this
- 19:23Speaker 3: is going to be a roundabout way of answering this question.
- 19:26Speaker 3: There's a part where Lindsay says, you guys clearly didn't
- 19:28Speaker 3: think this through. I actually disagree with that. I actually
- 19:31Speaker 3: think they thought it through, and they both saw Sierra
- 19:34Speaker 3: as disposable and underestimated how beloved she would be. So
- 19:37Speaker 3: I think he didn't see her as far as he
- 19:39Speaker 3: didn't center her when they were dating. But I think
- 19:42Speaker 3: he and Amanda have been increasingly annoyed by how much
- 19:45Speaker 3: love she's gotten. I've actually been the sidekick who ended
- 19:47Speaker 3: up being a main character, and I've seen what happens
- 19:49Speaker 3: to the main character with when that happens. They don't
- 19:51Speaker 3: see you, they think you're inconsequential. Suddenly you're more popular
- 19:55Speaker 3: than them. Now there's a very special breed of resentment
- 19:58Speaker 3: when the main character realizes that the side kick wasn't
- 20:00Speaker 3: a psychic at all. And I think that's what's happening
- 20:02Speaker 3: with Wes and Amanda. I think they actually bonded over
- 20:05Speaker 3: their resentment about Sierra. When you saw them together, they
- 20:07Speaker 3: used to be even within the city, right, there was
- 20:09Speaker 3: a little trifecta, and Amanda's holding their hand like, oh,
- 20:11Speaker 3: I love this so much, right and in that moment,
- 20:14Speaker 3: it's Sierra and West on one side as the couple
- 20:16Speaker 3: that finally make up, and Amanda's the married friend who's
- 20:19Speaker 3: going through a hardship on the other side. Every single
- 20:22Speaker 3: time we talk about the fact that Amanda and Sierra
- 20:25Speaker 3: had this amazing friendship that Montage reminded me of the help.
- 20:28Speaker 3: You was good, You was smart, you was kind, You
- 20:32Speaker 3: was important, Like Sierra was supposed to be a supporting
- 20:35Speaker 3: character to Amanda and she was supposed to be a
- 20:38Speaker 3: throwaway to Wes. Right now, the audience has fallen in
- 20:41Speaker 3: love with Sierra, and I do think that I'm gonna
- 20:44Speaker 3: keep on going back to this. When West sat down,
- 20:46Speaker 3: because even a broken clock is right twice a day,
- 20:48Speaker 3: he sat down and said to Sierra, I will admit
- 20:51Speaker 3: there are things I have done recently to you that
- 20:54Speaker 3: I can admit now retrospective, because I resented you. I
- 20:57Speaker 3: think that resentment that he's already admitted to. I don't
- 20:59Speaker 3: think he's centered her as far as I'm only to
- 21:01Speaker 3: being with Amanda. I think the fact that I'm getting
- 21:03Speaker 3: films for Amanda, and I think Amanda is more beloved
- 21:07Speaker 3: than both you and Kyle. So if me and Amanda
- 21:10Speaker 3: get together after Kyle has done this thing and I've
- 21:13Speaker 3: been her night in Shining Armor, it positions me in
- 21:16Speaker 3: a really good space where I've reformed, I'm with somebody
- 21:19Speaker 3: who's popular, and it's almost like a redemption arc from Sierra.
- 21:22Speaker 3: I honestly think that Amanda and what's his name West,
- 21:26Speaker 3: they thought this was gonna be redemption arc. They thought
- 21:28Speaker 3: that them pretending that they fell in love surprisingly after
- 21:32Speaker 3: a breakup's gonna redeem both of them. They both underestimated
- 21:36Speaker 3: how loved the black girl was.
- 21:38Speaker 4: Yeah, but they wouldn't have known that. They didn't know
- 21:40Speaker 4: that until after they got together. Right, So like he
- 21:43Speaker 4: wouldn't have he wouldn't have known which.
- 21:44Speaker 3: Got together, the one which statement, the first one, the
- 21:46Speaker 3: second one? The kids? What do you mean after wish
- 21:49Speaker 3: got together? Because because to me, I think that when
- 21:52Speaker 3: they talked about we discussed this. I don't think they
- 21:54Speaker 3: discussed this. That's why Lindsay's so so confused. Lindsey thinks
- 21:57Speaker 3: they discussed their impact and harm on other people and
- 22:01Speaker 3: must not have seen how obviously it was that they
- 22:03Speaker 3: were going to hurt people and did it. Anyways, I
- 22:05Speaker 3: think they discussed how they could still packages to make
- 22:08Speaker 3: them palable to the audience. I think that was the
- 22:11Speaker 3: discussion that happened of how do we sell this to
- 22:13Speaker 3: the audience where it's palatable that we're together? What we
- 22:16Speaker 3: are the friends turned lovers unexpectedly thing everybody thinks. Kyle's
- 22:20Speaker 3: of Purana, who's always saying fuck you, right, and poor Sierra,
- 22:23Speaker 3: she and I are cool, so we can convince her
- 22:24Speaker 3: to be cool about it. I think they weren't discussing
- 22:26Speaker 3: impact and harm. I think they were discussing branding, and
- 22:29Speaker 3: they again underestimated how loved Sierra was going to be.
- 22:32Speaker 3: The love for Sierra is the only reason the plan
- 22:34Speaker 3: didn't work. It's the only reason they got caught by Sierra,
- 22:37Speaker 3: and she was loved. That Sierra hadn't caught them and
- 22:40Speaker 3: she wasn't so loved it actually would have worked. We've
- 22:43Speaker 3: seen this actually work before on different kind of shows.
- 22:46Speaker 4: So you were saying that if they would have been
- 22:48Speaker 4: found out as a couple and Sierra didn't have a
- 22:52Speaker 4: negative reaction to it, that no.
- 22:54Speaker 3: No, If they hadn't been pushed to come out so early,
- 22:57Speaker 3: if they had been able to say we divorced, it
- 23:00Speaker 3: in January, but now it's the following summer, and shockingly,
- 23:04Speaker 3: West has been there for me these last six months,
- 23:06Speaker 3: and love blossomed kind of naturally out of nowhere, and
- 23:09Speaker 3: Sierra was kind of put in a position where she
- 23:12Speaker 3: has to be like, well, this hurts my feelings, but
- 23:14Speaker 3: I have to be if they hadn't been caught and
- 23:17Speaker 3: had been able to roll it out, this actually would
- 23:19Speaker 3: have worked. We've watched this work before. The reason she
- 23:21Speaker 3: even says she came out with the second statement was
- 23:23Speaker 3: because a video came out. There was evidence coming out,
- 23:26Speaker 3: and we wanted to get ahead of it. That thwarted
- 23:28Speaker 3: their plan, and now needed to thwart their plan. Sierra,
- 23:31Speaker 3: who's used to say you was good, you was kind
- 23:32Speaker 3: of important, stopped playing mammy and said fuck you. Yes.
- 23:36Speaker 4: But even in all of that, right, that's still she's disposable.
- 23:42Speaker 4: But that still means that his sole purpose in this
- 23:44Speaker 4: wasn't just to fight the soul.
- 23:47Speaker 3: Yeah, we both agreed. I don't think it's a byproduct.
- 23:50Speaker 3: I think that in the words of Sierra, she even
- 23:52Speaker 3: said this, this just shows how disposable I was. I'm
- 23:56Speaker 3: agreeing with si Era that he is fighting her because
- 23:59Speaker 3: she's disposable doesn't mean he wasn't fighting her at or
- 24:02Speaker 3: I think that he was fighting her. It wasn't the
- 24:03Speaker 3: main thing, but I do think it was a factor,
- 24:05Speaker 3: and I think he thought she was disposable enough to
- 24:07Speaker 3: spite her. I do think that they both have they
- 24:11Speaker 3: thought she was disposable, and he's already a minute to
- 24:13Speaker 3: having resentment towards her. So to her it's like, oh,
- 24:15Speaker 3: you get to have this redemption arc where I'm thrown
- 24:18Speaker 3: away and you get to take my best friend from me.
- 24:20Speaker 3: That's an extra bit of a dig on your way out,
- 24:22Speaker 3: like an extra little bit of a pinch on your
- 24:24Speaker 3: way out. I think she's actually correct speaking on it.
- 24:26Speaker 3: I just don't think it was the main focus. I
- 24:28Speaker 3: think Wes's main focus is always gonna be West.
- 24:30Speaker 4: It's always exactly exactly Wes is all all about Wes.
- 24:34Speaker 6: Lindsay was clocking it.
- 24:35Speaker 4: If he gets some more followers, if he gets something
- 24:38Speaker 4: out of it, he's gonna do it.
- 24:39Speaker 3: Lindsay clocked a lot, and I love that she mentioned
- 24:42Speaker 3: that they're fucking with the money. The quote directly because
- 24:44Speaker 3: I had to. This is the only quote that I
- 24:46Speaker 3: really wrote down. Was Lindsay said and I said, Andy,
- 24:48Speaker 3: this is so leo. I didn't learn anything. I feel
- 24:51Speaker 3: like there's not a lot of clarity. Why did it
- 24:54Speaker 3: take today such a big decision at such a high
- 24:56Speaker 3: risk for you guys to say that you made all
- 24:58Speaker 3: the decisions but you didn't. It affects people's friendships, people's livelihoods,
- 25:02Speaker 3: and their careers and today's day that you just thought
- 25:05Speaker 3: about that. It's very shortsighted for a hookup.
- 25:09Speaker 1: Which, by the way, I will say this, Lindsay got
- 25:11Speaker 1: some balls because as a reunion host, there is nothing
- 25:15Speaker 1: more insulting than to spend ten hours doing your job
- 25:20Speaker 1: for talent to say, hey, I learned nothing today.
- 25:24Speaker 2: You're like.
- 25:26Speaker 6: That is that why? So there's a rule that Andy
- 25:29Speaker 6: doesn't like Lindsay.
- 25:32Speaker 2: I mean, look, I don't know if that's true or not.
- 25:34Speaker 1: I will say this as a reunion host and a producer.
- 25:38Speaker 3: Teacher, I didn't hear that one.
- 25:39Speaker 1: That's ill God I would have been if if Latitia's
- 25:44Speaker 1: got right, I learned nothing this whole time failed you're
- 25:51Speaker 1: telling me I felt at my job and I mean,
- 25:52Speaker 1: I like you today, so okay, because.
- 25:56Speaker 4: I was thinking that when they went, Because she said
- 25:58Speaker 4: that after they came back from break, Like, did somebody
- 26:00Speaker 4: prep her like in the back and tell her to
- 26:02Speaker 4: come out and say that as a way for us
- 26:04Speaker 4: to like lead into this, like my heart that they
- 26:08Speaker 4: were going to do. But now that you're saying this, Carlos,
- 26:10Speaker 4: I don't think anybody would instruct her to say that
- 26:13Speaker 4: if it was going to be assaulting to Andy, but I.
- 26:15Speaker 3: Was when she came back, Oh should we start again?
- 26:19Speaker 3: Welcome to the reunion, like he's been back with some shade.
- 26:21Speaker 1: Yes, he threw the shade back. But I do think
- 26:23Speaker 1: to your point, thought I could listen. As a producer,
- 26:28Speaker 1: I'm always curious about the stuff they let in, right.
- 26:31Speaker 2: Like for example, on Potomac, when they let in.
- 26:34Speaker 1: Giselle saying I ain't got a package, I said, oh, Gazel, baby,
- 26:38Speaker 1: that was a choice. They kept it in the episode.
- 26:41Speaker 1: That's a message for you, trust me. So when I
- 26:45Speaker 1: saw Lindsey say that, my first reaction was why do
- 26:48Speaker 1: I keep that in?
- 26:49Speaker 2: You know, like, why was that in?
- 26:51Speaker 1: But to your point, Jazz, I do think it had
- 26:54Speaker 1: they kept it in so that we understood why this
- 26:57Speaker 1: fourth part was happening too. Because all thing listen, Andy
- 27:01Speaker 1: did the best he could based on the beta blockers
- 27:06Speaker 1: that they were on. And that's another reason why they
- 27:09Speaker 1: kept that in is because.
- 27:14Speaker 3: Yes, there was nothing they weren't they weren't present. Sierra
- 27:18Speaker 3: got mad at that. Sierra's a nurse and said, stop
- 27:20Speaker 3: saying beta blockers. They're just said on the inside. She said,
- 27:22Speaker 3: beta blockers don't do that. So Sierra, as a nurse,
- 27:24Speaker 3: gave a clinical breakdown of why it's not beta blockers,
- 27:27Speaker 3: they're just sociopaths.
- 27:29Speaker 4: The girls are also saying that they were on benzos, like,
- 27:34Speaker 4: I don't look, I don't like accusing people of taking.
- 27:40Speaker 2: The range Johns, what is that a benzo?
- 27:44Speaker 4: It's like like a xanax or like a ad evan
- 27:47Speaker 4: or something. Oh my gosh, I have very bad flight anxiety.
- 27:53Speaker 4: So ever so often I have to take one when
- 27:55Speaker 4: I fly. I'm be said on the plane like turbulence,
- 27:59Speaker 4: that's fine.
- 28:00Speaker 3: I have dental anxiety and my dentist will have to
- 28:02Speaker 3: give me a xenax so I don't jump up in
- 28:03Speaker 3: the middle of the surgery. Child.
- 28:05Speaker 4: Yeah, like you just you're just you're so chill and
- 28:07Speaker 4: like it's just like nothing really bothers you. Like one
- 28:10Speaker 4: time on a plane y'all. I was so afraid because
- 28:12Speaker 4: it was storming out. I was asking the fighters in
- 28:14Speaker 4: and I was like, is there a way for me
- 28:15Speaker 4: to like get off the plane? And she was like, no, right,
- 28:18Speaker 4: the doors are closed. They had the pilot, they had
- 28:20Speaker 4: the The pilot came in like spoke to me. I
- 28:22Speaker 4: was flying by myself, right, the pilot came to talk
- 28:25Speaker 4: to me. I was like, you know what, I'm just
- 28:26Speaker 4: gonna take. I'm just gonna take a ZX, I was saying.
- 28:29Speaker 4: And mind you, it was storm and so there was
- 28:30Speaker 4: a lot of turbulence.
- 28:31Speaker 5: I was like, if we go down, we just go down.
- 28:33Speaker 5: That's how the xanax ass you. Like, Normally I would
- 28:36Speaker 5: be like freaking out, like no, but I I.
- 28:39Speaker 1: Was like, may I may I ask how recid was
- 28:45Speaker 1: this moment where you wanted to get off of a
- 28:48Speaker 1: moving plane?
- 28:48Speaker 5: No, the plane, it was.
- 28:49Speaker 4: On the we hadn't left yet, but the doors were closed.
- 28:53Speaker 3: Oh okay, guys like try to hold space for you friends,
- 29:00Speaker 3: Like that's a wild story. Turned the plane around.
- 29:03Speaker 5: Y'all thought I was on that bitch asking like can
- 29:05Speaker 5: I get a parachute?
- 29:06Speaker 3: I thought you was a no flylist.
- 29:11Speaker 4: Very very very good fight Sandy. No, the plane, the
- 29:14Speaker 4: doors were closed. We just hadn't taken off yet, we
- 29:16Speaker 4: hadn't pulled back.
- 29:17Speaker 2: Got it, got it.
- 29:18Speaker 6: It was raining, and I was just like.
- 29:20Speaker 1: So it Keith, Okay, So I mean listen, I just
- 29:23Speaker 1: think they and Day I mean Amanda in West.
- 29:27Speaker 2: I just think they wanted to come across.
- 29:31Speaker 3: Somber.
- 29:32Speaker 2: But it worked for me, even even Amanda's.
- 29:35Speaker 1: Pr response, which he told Sierra, you don't deserve a
- 29:40Speaker 1: friend like me.
- 29:41Speaker 3: Mike, that's fuck boy. One on one boy Catcher knows
- 29:45Speaker 3: how to speak. Fuck boy.
- 29:47Speaker 4: Let me ask, Let me ask you guys this, what
- 29:51Speaker 4: could they have done?
- 29:52Speaker 3: Though?
- 29:52Speaker 4: Like I feel like they were in a lose lose situation.
- 29:54Speaker 4: Is there anything that they could have done that would
- 29:56Speaker 4: have made them look better?
- 29:58Speaker 3: Yes? Hit it, Carlos.
- 30:02Speaker 2: Okay, and this is me speaking.
- 30:04Speaker 1: Okay, as a producer and a host of reunions, I
- 30:09Speaker 1: would have wanted them to say, look, this looks fucked up,
- 30:16Speaker 1: because it is fucked up.
- 30:18Speaker 2: We fucked up. Okay, I'm human, no excuses. It was
- 30:23Speaker 2: a fucked up thing to do.
- 30:24Speaker 1: I am aware that all of you guys are mad
- 30:27Speaker 1: at me, and you have every right to be. I
- 30:29Speaker 1: don't have anything else to give. Besides, I made a
- 30:32Speaker 1: horrible mistake. I did it with intention, I did it
- 30:36Speaker 1: fully conscious. I know this makes me look bad. However,
- 30:41Speaker 1: I really wanted.
- 30:43Speaker 2: To give this a try. I had to.
- 30:46Speaker 1: I was not in the best place romantically with my husband,
- 30:49Speaker 1: and I wanted.
- 30:50Speaker 2: To see if this could work in Sierra. I'm sorry.
- 30:54Speaker 1: I know that means nothing to you, but I had
- 30:58Speaker 1: to sacrifice my friendship for you to see if this
- 31:01Speaker 1: was going to work. And if it doesn't work, I
- 31:04Speaker 1: would I would lose him. I lost a friend. But
- 31:07Speaker 1: I had to go through life wondering if this was
- 31:09Speaker 1: worth it and when own it.
- 31:13Speaker 3: First of all, owning it is not Amanda right. One
- 31:17Speaker 3: plus one is still not seven, so she'd have to
- 31:19Speaker 3: be a whole new person. Here's the thing about Amanda.
- 31:22Speaker 3: The first way to fix it, to answer your question,
- 31:24Speaker 3: just because this is a good question, is to break
- 31:25Speaker 3: up with him. Right. The first way to fix it
- 31:28Speaker 3: would have to be like, I was selfish and naive
- 31:32Speaker 3: and said everything Carlos said, and I've decided that repairing
- 31:35Speaker 3: all these fractured relationships means more to me than six
- 31:38Speaker 3: weeks of questionable pen right. So that was the only
- 31:41Speaker 3: way to truly fix it, because the only way to
- 31:43Speaker 3: truly apologize is to improve behavior. Being with Wes is
- 31:46Speaker 3: not improving behavior, especially if you're running out to Italy
- 31:50Speaker 3: to a wedding with him right after the reunion.
- 31:52Speaker 6: To spit in his mouth.
- 31:54Speaker 3: They're run after a wedding right afterwards. Boot up. Okay,
- 31:58Speaker 3: so bullshit. Second thing is when Andy says to No,
- 32:03Speaker 3: you don't understand y'all. I think I took a bit
- 32:05Speaker 3: of blocker because I've been I've been wanting to scream
- 32:06Speaker 3: this entire time that lady is evil.
- 32:09Speaker 2: She is malificit.
- 32:10Speaker 3: You understand me. She is so evil. Imagine doing all
- 32:15Speaker 3: that knowing that you had a flight booked to go
- 32:17Speaker 3: to Italy with them right after this. She felt something there.
- 32:21Speaker 3: She had expressions in Italy chewing on the poste. But anyways,
- 32:25Speaker 3: when Annie said chewing on the pasta girl full teeth,
- 32:28Speaker 3: all her teeth, all of a sudden she can smile.
- 32:30Speaker 3: When Annie said was it worth it? Rather than saying yes,
- 32:34Speaker 3: it was worth it? This my man, my man, my baby,
- 32:37Speaker 3: my baby, right like Megan Dee of the Stallions or
- 32:41Speaker 3: saying now it wasn't worth the child. This is a
- 32:42Speaker 3: high fucking mess, but you know I'm in it now.
- 32:44Speaker 3: She said, I wish I could have had them both.
- 32:49Speaker 3: You're a sociopath. You are a sociopath. That your answer
- 32:54Speaker 3: to wasn't worth it is. I wish I could still
- 32:56Speaker 3: have a black side kids playing Mammy and the fucking
- 32:59Speaker 3: nigga that. Let me tell y'all something real quick about
- 33:02Speaker 3: about socio past, Amanda.
- 33:06Speaker 2: Do in I I think it might have been.
- 33:10Speaker 3: I'm trying so hard to behave Do you understand how
- 33:12Speaker 3: much hubrist it takes to be cussed out for seven
- 33:14Speaker 3: hours and still fix your mouth to say I kind
- 33:17Speaker 3: of want it both. I wanted you to keep on
- 33:20Speaker 3: telling me you were smart, you was kind, you was important,
- 33:23Speaker 3: and I still wanted to get dick down and be
- 33:25Speaker 3: chosen by the unchoosable to me that that one snippet
- 33:31Speaker 3: is Amanda's character or lack there of any. And when
- 33:34Speaker 3: Kyle says, and mind you, it's Kyle who's saying it,
- 33:36Speaker 3: because again Kyle's not the devil, He's just immature and
- 33:38Speaker 3: stupid in an easy mark right, he said, my heart
- 33:41Speaker 3: is breaking because I know your parents are gonna have
- 33:43Speaker 3: to see this, Amanda. And then even when he stood
- 33:49Speaker 3: there staring at West. Everybody left, including Cerr, staring at
- 33:51Speaker 3: West like, just explain to me why you would do
- 33:53Speaker 3: this to me? And Amanda walks in and he walks
- 33:56Speaker 3: up to her and he says, it is breaking my
- 33:58Speaker 3: heart that you were making a ten year relationship looked
- 34:00Speaker 3: like it was one hundred percent bad.
- 34:02Speaker 4: Yeah, and like her hugging him. What did you guys,
- 34:06Speaker 4: What did you guys think when she walked back to
- 34:08Speaker 4: the stage and she just put her arms out to
- 34:10Speaker 4: hug Kyle and he started crying, Like what what.
- 34:13Speaker 6: Did you guys?
- 34:14Speaker 5: Did you guys get the feels for him?
- 34:19Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 34:19Speaker 3: Yeah, for him?
- 34:20Speaker 2: Yeah I did. Yeah.
- 34:22Speaker 3: Yeah, She's a SOCIOPATHO who's used to him crying while
- 34:25Speaker 3: she stands there waiting for her next Q.
- 34:27Speaker 4: You know, it's so crazy. It's so crazy that you
- 34:30Speaker 4: say that, because I was like, what am I sensing
- 34:33Speaker 4: right now? Like it looked like she was anticipating him,
- 34:36Speaker 4: like she to her hugging him, And I was like,
- 34:39Speaker 4: is this sinister?
- 34:40Speaker 6: Is this just a woman who knows her.
- 34:41Speaker 3: Man of she was the baby, She's used to doing this.
- 34:43Speaker 3: She's always burping while he's having real feelings, and she's
- 34:46Speaker 3: plotting his demise. She was just burping the baby.
- 34:50Speaker 1: You know, there is this debate even amongs to you
- 34:53Speaker 1: two right about whether or not West did this to Spight.
- 34:58Speaker 2: Sierra again a new viewer of this show.
- 35:01Speaker 1: And just seeing behavior, I felt like a man that
- 35:07Speaker 1: did this to Spike.
- 35:08Speaker 2: Kyle.
- 35:09Speaker 3: Absolutely, they bond I wrote in my notes. They bonded.
- 35:13Speaker 4: I was gonna say, I think I feel like we
- 35:15Speaker 4: may have lightly touched on this the last recap or
- 35:18Speaker 4: maybe the one before with you and not Carlos. I
- 35:20Speaker 4: I one hundred percent think that she was getting some
- 35:23Speaker 4: some gear back.
- 35:24Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, And I think I think her seeing Kyle
- 35:29Speaker 1: cry at the reunion was satisfying to her. She enjoyed
- 35:33Speaker 1: it because she's like, yeah, hurt, motherfucker. I want you
- 35:36Speaker 1: to hurt, I want you to bleed.
- 35:38Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I remember exactly when we were talking about it,
- 35:40Speaker 4: because it was when she was saying, Kyle is crying
- 35:42Speaker 4: because I said I didn't like going out with him
- 35:45Speaker 4: and the knife yep, exactly exactly. So No, she totally
- 35:49Speaker 4: was is trying to hurt Kyle.
- 35:50Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm gonna keep saying this. West resented the fact
- 35:55Speaker 3: that Sierra, who's supposed to be girl number six of
- 35:58Speaker 3: three hundred and sixty six. Somehow caught him slipping and
- 36:02Speaker 3: had a whole year of him looking bad, and his
- 36:04Speaker 3: little fragile ego couldn't take it. Forget her. He just
- 36:06Speaker 3: hated that it looked bad on her, right, on him right.
- 36:09Speaker 3: Amanda resented Kyle for a myriad of reasons. I do
- 36:13Speaker 3: think that the two of them, as supporting characters to
- 36:16Speaker 3: these larger than life figures, have a sixth sense of
- 36:19Speaker 3: satisfaction that they're being centered, even if it's bad. I
- 36:22Speaker 3: actually think Wes enjoyed the reunion. I think Wes has
- 36:28Speaker 3: never been more centered on the show in the entire
- 36:30Speaker 3: time that he's been there. He loved every moment, which
- 36:33Speaker 3: is why when she ran off crying and was gone
- 36:35Speaker 3: for an hour, he didn't want to get to go
- 36:38Speaker 3: see her. It was an hour. A lot of people
- 36:40Speaker 3: have DM me who I can't say to my own
- 36:42Speaker 3: people in trouble. People have let me know from the
- 36:44Speaker 3: streets Bebby was gone for a full hour. That's why
- 36:48Speaker 3: Stierra was like, Ah, what you mean were about to
- 36:50Speaker 3: pull the cars? And that's the next question. It's been
- 36:52Speaker 3: sixty four minutes of her trying to gather herself. She
- 36:55Speaker 3: needed to come out here.
- 36:57Speaker 1: And mother Harbard. See I'm learning, Lindsey said on thrassl Jasmine.
- 37:02Speaker 1: On Twitter, she confirmed it was definitely an hour like
- 37:06Speaker 1: and and listens to think about reality stars, especially especially
- 37:12Speaker 1: when it comes to the females of the show Baby
- 37:15Speaker 1: if they can, if they if they get a glimmer
- 37:18Speaker 1: of preferential treatment of Baby, all Hell's break loose. So
- 37:23Speaker 1: I definitely think that it had to be an hour.
- 37:26Speaker 1: I definitely think Wes enjoyed this reunion.
- 37:29Speaker 2: He is he.
- 37:31Speaker 1: Listen, fuck boys like eating amount of attention they get.
- 37:35Speaker 2: And let's be clear, in the world.
- 37:38Speaker 1: Of boys, right brotherhood, Wes is winning amongst them.
- 37:45Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, you did that ship. You know you got
- 37:47Speaker 2: these girls. That's our men think. Get his goods find
- 37:49Speaker 2: over you man needed it. So Wes in his silo
- 37:53Speaker 2: world of bros, he's winning.
- 37:56Speaker 3: But on this reality show, unfortunately, he's in the one
- 37:59Speaker 3: group of men that are soft and tender, very water
- 38:02Speaker 3: signed energy, very These are tenderonies. These are not the
- 38:05Speaker 3: frat boys. He's around a bunch of men who want
- 38:08Speaker 3: wives and girlfriends, and who want to have investment properties
- 38:11Speaker 3: and who want to like do the thing and do
- 38:13Speaker 3: life with somebody, so he picked the one group where
- 38:15Speaker 3: this wouldn't work. Yes, yeah, that's what's blowing him because
- 38:19Speaker 3: he's used to being applauded for this.
- 38:22Speaker 1: Which listen, Can y'all explain Jesse to me? The water
- 38:25Speaker 1: works someone?
- 38:27Speaker 2: Yeah, I it made me uncomfortable because I was like,
- 38:33Speaker 2: why are you dude? What's going on here?
- 38:37Speaker 3: Go ahead, go aheads.
- 38:38Speaker 4: Did you guys watch the Peacock version because apparently the
- 38:41Speaker 4: version that okay, so apparently what aredon Bravo Live they
- 38:45Speaker 4: cut out apart. So in the Peacock version, they left
- 38:48Speaker 4: in the part where Jesse says he just had an
- 38:50Speaker 4: instnse where one of his best friends slept or hooked
- 38:53Speaker 4: up with his ex, and he was feeling emotional about
- 38:57Speaker 4: that because it just hit a little too close to
- 38:59Speaker 4: home for him.
- 38:59Speaker 6: So that to why he was crying.
- 39:01Speaker 4: But I too, Before he said that, I was like,
- 39:03Speaker 4: you are so emotional, like are you coming down from something?
- 39:06Speaker 6: Is it a bad day? Like what was going on?
- 39:09Speaker 3: I actually understood it because I did some research on Jesse,
- 39:12Speaker 3: just because he's always been an interesting weird bird. To me,
- 39:14Speaker 3: Jesse is someone who survived cancer, and when yeah, he
- 39:19Speaker 3: survived testicular cancer, and when he survived cancer, his guy
- 39:24Speaker 3: friends were his brothers who kept him afloat and from
- 39:26Speaker 3: being suicidal. Right, So, for him as a cancer survivor
- 39:31Speaker 3: who sees West as a brother who he's poured his
- 39:34Speaker 3: heart out to, and he's seen Kyle as a brother,
- 39:37Speaker 3: the boys really bonded because they were going through some stuff.
- 39:39Speaker 3: So you have I think, is it kJ that those
- 39:42Speaker 3: are the issues. kJ was finding out that he had
- 39:45Speaker 3: borderline personality disorder and had a whole mental health break.
- 39:48Speaker 3: Jesse was dealing with the fact that, you know, remission
- 39:50Speaker 3: and making sure he's okay. His music career is coming out,
- 39:52Speaker 3: so he's feeling vulnerable. So it's like for Jesse as
- 39:56Speaker 3: someone who has recently been betrayed by a best friend
- 40:00Speaker 3: oh sorry a friend, seeing his bestist friend do the
- 40:03Speaker 3: very same thing that just happened to him, which means, oh,
- 40:06Speaker 3: you're just like the person who just broke my heart
- 40:08Speaker 3: and say him friends are family because they helped him
- 40:10Speaker 3: through his cancer scare. I actually completely understood why he
- 40:13Speaker 3: was so emotional, just as one of those people where
- 40:16Speaker 3: his friends really are his family, like sincerely his family
- 40:19Speaker 3: and even Kyle. The reason why Amanda was able to
- 40:22Speaker 3: turn Kyle into whatever she was able to turn him
- 40:24Speaker 3: to his because Kyle's always has his hands for like
- 40:26Speaker 3: a baby, Kyle always needs affirmation. These are very sensitive
- 40:30Speaker 3: men who were finally in a setting. It's like alpha
- 40:32Speaker 3: women and a bunch of beta men, right, That's what
- 40:34Speaker 3: the show has been like since the beginning. So in
- 40:36Speaker 3: this show of alpha women and beta men, the men
- 40:39Speaker 3: have always been tender. The men have always been soft.
- 40:41Speaker 3: The men have always had romances that felt like family.
- 40:44Speaker 3: And they even said, even Ben said it, I'm new here,
- 40:46Speaker 3: even I know what's at steak. You were the nucleus.
- 40:49Speaker 3: You were the most alpha male in our boy group.
- 40:52Speaker 3: We all saw you as the leader of the pack,
- 40:54Speaker 3: and you betrayed all of us in one swoop. They
- 40:56Speaker 3: even said, when you were in Miami with Amanda texting
- 40:59Speaker 3: Kyle about them that in the sex life, knowing that
- 41:00Speaker 3: you want to stoop her next, Why aren't we invited? Wait?
- 41:04Speaker 4: You think they saw West as the leader of the pack.
- 41:06Speaker 4: I always thought Kyle was the nucleus.
- 41:08Speaker 3: No, Kyle was. Kyle was the nucleus until Amanda tripped away.
- 41:13Speaker 3: She's been working in my theory from last week, she's
- 41:15Speaker 3: been working to throw him for quite a while and
- 41:16Speaker 3: it's been working. Kyle has been losing favor as a
- 41:19Speaker 3: leader and now has been seen as the person victimizing
- 41:22Speaker 3: Amanda more and more throughout the years, and as he
- 41:25Speaker 3: stepped down, that's when West started to step up as
- 41:27Speaker 3: the alpha. The only thing that stopped Wes from being
- 41:29Speaker 3: the alpha was Sierra. Sierra was the first chink in
- 41:32Speaker 3: West being the alpha, and then when he made up
- 41:35Speaker 3: with her, hep he got back up there. So it's
- 41:37Speaker 3: like he got down because of a girl, got back
- 41:39Speaker 3: up because he made up with her. But now he's
- 41:40Speaker 3: stopping Amanda.
- 41:41Speaker 1: He's back down again, which would make sense again new watcher,
- 41:44Speaker 1: but based.
- 41:45Speaker 5: On his time. Carlos says, he's a new viewer.
- 41:52Speaker 2: Because I love learning the job.
- 41:54Speaker 3: When Ben said leader of the pack, I was like, oh,
- 41:57Speaker 3: I can see how with Kyle being seen as a
- 41:59Speaker 3: basket case and Wes being so alpha, you are the
- 42:02Speaker 3: next in line. He really was next in line if
- 42:04Speaker 3: this plan had worked. The gag is, guys, if this
- 42:07Speaker 3: plan had actually worked, I think it would have actually worked.
- 42:10Speaker 1: Well this one wanted to ask you, I think it
- 42:12Speaker 1: would have worked. We know when it comes to men, right,
- 42:15Speaker 1: there are some, not all, Some men like to humble
- 42:19Speaker 1: a woman who's used to being the bad chick. Right,
- 42:24Speaker 1: There's something sinister about him humbling her, whether it's knocking
- 42:28Speaker 1: her down the side, treating her a different way so
- 42:31Speaker 1: that she can feel like you're you should be happy
- 42:34Speaker 1: to be with me.
- 42:35Speaker 3: It's called negging. N E G G I N G negging.
- 42:38Speaker 1: So do we think that Amanda was negging Kyle? Because again,
- 42:44Speaker 1: Kyle to me is the face of the show. Though,
- 42:47Speaker 1: if you're saying that she's been knocking him down, is
- 42:50Speaker 1: it because she's been trying to humble him to get
- 42:54Speaker 1: him down to size?
- 42:55Speaker 2: And Wes saw an end.
- 42:57Speaker 1: To get into that position, amongst being the face.
- 43:02Speaker 2: Of the shell.
- 43:02Speaker 1: Which look, I'm only watching next season fully to see
- 43:09Speaker 1: all of them together.
- 43:10Speaker 3: It's a million dollar season, it's gonna be They're all
- 43:12Speaker 3: gonna get like seven figures. It's a million dollar season
- 43:15Speaker 3: if they do it.
- 43:17Speaker 1: Do you think that was Amanda's intention to nag Kyle
- 43:23Speaker 1: so that she can just humble him down to size?
- 43:28Speaker 3: I have a strong judge. You want to go? Do
- 43:29Speaker 3: you want to go?
- 43:31Speaker 2: Now?
- 43:31Speaker 5: You can go?
- 43:31Speaker 6: Because I don't have an opinion on this.
- 43:32Speaker 3: I think doing some friends of good time, I'm what's
- 43:35Speaker 3: wrong with me? Child? I just be playing hit and
- 43:37Speaker 3: I have triple virgal placements. So excuse me if I
- 43:40Speaker 3: just watch things over and over again and take notes repeatedly.
- 43:42Speaker 3: It's a tick of mine. I think that if Amanda
- 43:45Speaker 3: was being true to herself, the crossroad and her narrative
- 43:49Speaker 3: would have been the wedding, because when they got married,
- 43:52Speaker 3: everybody was saying, don't marry him. Everything so obviously bad.
- 43:54Speaker 3: Don't marry him. So all of us, they ones myself included,
- 43:57Speaker 3: were shocked when she went through with the wedding, right.
- 44:00Speaker 3: I think in her mind she thought that humbling him
- 44:03Speaker 3: would give her an out when she married him. I
- 44:07Speaker 3: think that humbling him was like, when I leave him,
- 44:09Speaker 3: I can still have my everything attached to the show,
- 44:12Speaker 3: because you all understand when I'm leaving him, because he's this,
- 44:14Speaker 3: he's that, he's this, he's that, he's this. Right, However,
- 44:17Speaker 3: here's the thing to your point, right, and this is
- 44:19Speaker 3: the point you both have made, Kyle and Amanda were
- 44:22Speaker 3: I hate to use this analogy because Amanda does not
- 44:24Speaker 3: deserve to be aligned with this person. They were the
- 44:26Speaker 3: jay Z and Beyonce of Summerhouse. If Beyonce one day
- 44:30Speaker 3: lost her mind and started talking shit about Hole, right,
- 44:34Speaker 3: if Beyonce one day lost her mind and just started saying, Hoho,
- 44:37Speaker 3: ain't this hoove? Ain't this whole? Ain't this hove? Ain't
- 44:40Speaker 3: that right? And then out of nowhere, she starts hanging
- 44:43Speaker 3: out with Ja Cole, and j Cole is friends with Hole,
- 44:47Speaker 3: so Hove is confiding in him. If j Cole was
- 44:50Speaker 3: on some functionhit, he knows if Hope is gone, I
- 44:54Speaker 3: get to be the next Hop. That's West mentality, Jack,
- 45:00Speaker 3: is what you've been circling around all this time that
- 45:02Speaker 3: you've been talking about West being sinister, he thought he
- 45:04Speaker 3: because she was the Beyonce by default that if Kyle's
- 45:08Speaker 3: on his way out and you're taking him out already,
- 45:10Speaker 3: and I support you in taking him out, when you
- 45:13Speaker 3: and I get together, I'm the next Hope just by
- 45:15Speaker 3: proximity to Kyle.
- 45:17Speaker 1: Because to your point, if Beyonce ever utters a bad
- 45:22Speaker 1: word about jay Z, I included everybody.
- 45:26Speaker 2: I'm done with jay Z.
- 45:27Speaker 3: The house was done with Kyle. The house was like,
- 45:30Speaker 3: oh my god.
- 45:31Speaker 1: And that's why when I suppose to jazz about this
- 45:33Speaker 1: weeks ago, when again, she was the first part to
- 45:36Speaker 1: tell me, like, this entire reunion was supposed to be,
- 45:40Speaker 1: was supposed.
- 45:40Speaker 2: To be how much we all hate Kyle.
- 45:43Speaker 1: Yeah, so fascinating is this was supposed to be Amanda's
- 45:47Speaker 1: winning season.
- 45:48Speaker 3: It was supposed to Kyle's funeral. We were supposed to
- 45:50Speaker 3: be showing up to Kyle's funeral, and instead we showed
- 45:53Speaker 3: up to a reckoning.
- 45:56Speaker 6: His redemption, his renaissance.
- 45:57Speaker 4: Okay, the irony, crazy, the crazy part, the crazy part.
- 46:02Speaker 3: I love this show.
- 46:03Speaker 4: West not just done this. How Wes just like left
- 46:07Speaker 4: Amanda alone? He was up next anyway, because Kyle would
- 46:10Speaker 4: have eventually left to go and do in the City.
- 46:12Speaker 4: All they needed was like a season or two for
- 46:14Speaker 4: in the City to really get into his groove. Kyle
- 46:17Speaker 4: would have left the Hampton's permanently, and West, you would
- 46:20Speaker 4: have been a bitch.
- 46:21Speaker 3: But guess why? But guess what? And this, Oh my god,
- 46:24Speaker 3: I love how these theories. We're We're so good together.
- 46:26Speaker 3: All three was what is the only thing that can
- 46:29Speaker 3: fuck up the perfect plan of a fuck boy? The
- 46:32Speaker 3: fuck boy trapper? Right, Because if you watch in the
- 46:36Speaker 3: City and Carlos, You're the reason why I watched it.
- 46:38Speaker 3: You see how it's awful, Sir.
- 46:39Speaker 2: I love the city.
- 46:40Speaker 3: By the way, and in the city, when West and
- 46:43Speaker 3: si Era make up and go meet up Amanda and
- 46:46Speaker 3: they're like, why are we here, She's like, Oh, I
- 46:47Speaker 3: got my own apartment. Wes looked shocked because West is realizing, oh,
- 46:54Speaker 3: you're speeding up the timeline, bitch, what you mean you
- 46:56Speaker 3: at your own apartment. I had a plan. We were
- 46:59Speaker 3: supposed to dog walk this so that I could be
- 47:01Speaker 3: the next hole, right, and so Amanda speedwalking getting her
- 47:05Speaker 3: an apartment. West looked like row go playing back this
- 47:08Speaker 3: literally tiktoks it like him.
- 47:09Speaker 2: Going work, what's your meaning?
- 47:10Speaker 3: Apartment? You mean over there? Like he's pointing it to
- 47:12Speaker 3: the yonder like he's confusion. Right, Amanda keeps Wes had
- 47:15Speaker 3: the perfect plan, and Amanda's thirst and her own personal
- 47:18Speaker 3: agenda kept tripping him up. West is thinking we're gonna
- 47:21Speaker 3: do this slowly. Amanda wakes up from his house allegedly
- 47:24Speaker 3: allegedly on New Year's Day. I'm telling Kyle, then we
- 47:26Speaker 3: don't have to put out the statement about the divorce tomorrow.
- 47:28Speaker 3: West is like, wait, what's happening. Wait's like even Coyle's like, wait,
- 47:33Speaker 3: why are we rushing this? Kyle was like, she called
- 47:34Speaker 3: me in a rush to put out the statement Amanda
- 47:37Speaker 3: keeps undermining West's plan, even him being monogamous. He was like, yeah,
- 47:42Speaker 3: I had a girl Riom for fourteen months. I also
- 47:43Speaker 3: had other bitches. But I guess because of all this stuff,
- 47:46Speaker 3: I gotta be monogamous to the man, because that second statement.
- 47:49Speaker 3: Every time Amanda goes rogue, West plans get fucked up
- 47:53Speaker 3: because she has her own agenda. She has her own.
- 47:55Speaker 2: Agenda, not listen, not to pick Sidnes. Amantha to me
- 48:00Speaker 2: is the master of mind behind all of this thing.
- 48:02Speaker 3: Yes, which is why them thinking it's West is blowing
- 48:04Speaker 3: my mind. His dumb mask he's getting. I'm sorry, let
- 48:07Speaker 3: me relax.
- 48:08Speaker 4: You think you think she seduced him because he's the
- 48:11Speaker 4: one that came on to her.
- 48:12Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no, yeah, let me explain to
- 48:14Speaker 3: you about how pigmies work. She out damseled everybody. The
- 48:17Speaker 3: biggest thing that a West wants and this is what
- 48:19Speaker 3: Sierra she ate with this. A man like West loves
- 48:22Speaker 3: to feel big. What do they always tell you, they say,
- 48:24Speaker 3: don't build a man, because the second you built him,
- 48:27Speaker 3: he will leave you and find a woman who sees
- 48:29Speaker 3: him with fresh eyes. Men like Wes, who have fragile
- 48:32Speaker 3: egos like to be seen a big dog. I can't
- 48:35Speaker 3: be seen his big dog if you saw me when
- 48:36Speaker 3: I was broken. The fact that Amanda I want to
- 48:39Speaker 3: run to you and plays damsel with him all the time.
- 48:42Speaker 3: He loves the reflection. She gets to be the hero
- 48:44Speaker 3: with her. All the bad bitches he dates have a
- 48:47Speaker 3: long list of how he's messed up. Look at the
- 48:49Speaker 3: other girl, h Dana Dara, Theara's a girl. He ain't this,
- 48:52Speaker 3: He ain't that because there's a bad bitch. Siarah's like,
- 48:55Speaker 3: he ain't this every bad bitch.
- 48:57Speaker 1: To your point me from southern house mentality to the Latina.
- 49:00Speaker 2: She said the sex wasn't good.
- 49:02Speaker 3: All the baddies keep they all do, and his and
- 49:05Speaker 3: his thing turns to the right, I mean to the
- 49:06Speaker 3: left right. All the baddies keep clowning him. And here's Amanda.
- 49:10Speaker 3: I think you're perfect. Thank you so much for sitting
- 49:12Speaker 3: next to me. For someone who's ego is that fragile,
- 49:16Speaker 3: she is the ultimate. And this this is a movie. I
- 49:18Speaker 3: want you guys to watch real quick. It's called hard Candy.
- 49:21Speaker 3: The premise of the movie Hard Candy is a pedophile.
- 49:26Speaker 3: What did the kids called pdf file? Bdfile? Right? A
- 49:29Speaker 3: pdf file is hitting on a little girl in a
- 49:32Speaker 3: chat room and goes to her house thinking he's about
- 49:34Speaker 3: to do what pdf files do. The girls of sociopath,
- 49:38Speaker 3: the little girls of Sociopath. She's hard Candy. He went
- 49:40Speaker 3: to be a predator, not knowing that he was actually
- 49:42Speaker 3: the prey. Amanda is hard Candy. West is everything you said,
- 49:47Speaker 3: She's just worse. She lured him with the brokenness. I'm
- 49:53Speaker 3: so broken. Oh my god. Even when they said, Amanda,
- 49:56Speaker 3: you were fine, and the minute West came up in
- 49:58Speaker 3: the room, you turned it on and became a victim.
- 50:00Speaker 3: That's what hard Candy does. They know that all you
- 50:03Speaker 3: want is me to be a poor little damsel that
- 50:05Speaker 3: you can save, and now you're eating out of the
- 50:08Speaker 3: pop of my hand. Even when they were have the
- 50:09Speaker 3: girl scout cookie, she said, don't eat it yet.
- 50:12Speaker 5: Bad part gush.
- 50:14Speaker 3: That's their real relationship.
- 50:16Speaker 5: It was such a small point because he was like,
- 50:18Speaker 5: He's like, don't eat it yet.
- 50:20Speaker 3: That's the mastermind talking to the prey. I'm sorry you.
- 50:25Speaker 5: Down so quick, but wait rewind Mia said that.
- 50:29Speaker 6: Mia from the hospitality said the text wasn't good.
- 50:32Speaker 4: So these girls are doing all of this over some
- 50:35Speaker 4: mid peed.
- 50:36Speaker 1: Yeah I've done that, I asked Mia. I said, yeah,
- 50:41Speaker 1: iked me. I said, he's not attractive to me, but hey,
- 50:46Speaker 1: to eat your sound. She said, no, he has swag.
- 50:48Speaker 1: She said, look, he's a Bravo celebrity.
- 50:51Speaker 2: I'm one. He was in my DMS, you know whatever.
- 50:54Speaker 2: She thought. It was a moment.
- 50:56Speaker 1: And she just said, like, you know, energy's energy, so
- 51:00Speaker 1: maybe he got like some swag to something.
- 51:02Speaker 2: But she said, yeah, we smushed.
- 51:05Speaker 1: And I said no, the black community we say smash,
- 51:08Speaker 1: and she goes, I believe you because I'm sure with
- 51:11Speaker 1: a black man it would have been good enough to smash.
- 51:14Speaker 1: I'm saying smush because it wasn't that good.
- 51:17Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that. That was a good clip. That
- 51:18Speaker 3: was a great clip. By the way, she's beautiful and
- 51:22Speaker 3: he's pulling those type of girls by being a golden retriever.
- 51:26Speaker 3: Road just can put me like I'm telling you.
- 51:30Speaker 4: I want to act like I'm confused, but I'm fronting.
- 51:34Speaker 3: I had a West before, so I can't lie because
- 51:35Speaker 3: they watched the show and the probably gonna DM Carlos
- 51:37Speaker 3: who talk about me. I fall for West before. I've
- 51:39Speaker 3: had some med dick and and a golden retriever. But
- 51:41Speaker 3: I thought so bad for him. Next thing, you know,
- 51:43Speaker 3: my my pants were gone apples all the time.
- 51:45Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying.
- 51:45Speaker 4: I'm friend, I'm acting brand new because I'm married now.
- 51:48Speaker 4: But there are some men, if they resurfaced, I do
- 51:52Speaker 4: not know them.
- 51:53Speaker 3: I don't When Michaels saying lied about sleepiatory Lanes, I
- 51:56Speaker 3: understood it. I will lie about I'm like, I don't
- 51:58Speaker 3: know this man. I've never met this man. I will
- 52:02Speaker 3: I've never.
- 52:02Speaker 5: Lost cloud chasing a cloud chaser.
- 52:05Speaker 6: And there was a video that came out.
- 52:06Speaker 4: They actually showed a clip of this in this part
- 52:09Speaker 4: of their reunion where the boys all had the suit
- 52:11Speaker 4: on and they were in the like DJ room, KYLESO
- 52:14Speaker 4: the DJ room. I remember when West posted that video
- 52:17Speaker 4: of them behind the scenes and they were all dancing.
- 52:19Speaker 4: I remember thinking, and this is before all of this
- 52:22Speaker 4: came out, mind you, so do not fucking crucify me.
- 52:26Speaker 4: I remember thinking there is something there, like I can
- 52:30Speaker 4: see how you could be charmed. You might not find
- 52:33Speaker 4: him attractive, but like, there's some men who are just
- 52:36Speaker 4: like cool, and he was giving off a very cool
- 52:38Speaker 4: vibe in that video.
- 52:39Speaker 6: So I do remember that when they showed that clip.
- 52:41Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, I remember, thinking, like, I can
- 52:44Speaker 4: see how he could at least make women have women
- 52:47Speaker 4: intrigued right like him.
- 52:49Speaker 3: She said he was my best friend. What is a
- 52:51Speaker 3: man of saying he was my best friend? You will
- 52:53Speaker 3: best friend and golden rechiever himself in to your draws.
- 52:56Speaker 3: And any woman who's saying that she's never fallen for
- 52:58Speaker 3: that is lying. Most of us have. It works exceptionally well.
- 53:02Speaker 2: And the last hold on, honey, I have.
- 53:05Speaker 3: A call, so so funny, went by so quick.
- 53:10Speaker 2: Yes, please thank you.
- 53:11Speaker 3: Oh that's a big old phone. Was that nineteen ninety four?
- 53:13Speaker 2: Don't do you.
- 53:17Speaker 3: In the back of a limo with.
- 53:21Speaker 2: Looka they heard you?
- 53:22Speaker 3: Hello?
- 53:24Speaker 1: Damn Yes, you can't thank you call.
- 53:35Speaker 5: Downstairs?
- 53:37Speaker 6: You said, what your gentleman caller is downstairs?
- 53:40Speaker 2: No, my room service? Thank you?
- 53:42Speaker 3: Why did you order room service? Child?
- 53:45Speaker 1: Amanda and West says they're not in love with each other,
- 53:50Speaker 1: but where they are right now is they're having serious
- 53:53Speaker 1: conversations about their relationship.
- 53:56Speaker 3: A man said that what's up? No a man a
- 54:00Speaker 3: man that a man Ha said that West said no.
- 54:03Speaker 4: She said they're having question about it, which I find interesting.
- 54:10Speaker 3: I did go ahead, jah this lady.
- 54:16Speaker 6: I was gonna give you guys some moments.
- 54:20Speaker 4: No the thing that I thought, Yes, that was super
- 54:22Speaker 4: funny her saying like they're having conversations about it. But
- 54:24Speaker 4: I really was gagged that Wes was literally like, yeah know,
- 54:27Speaker 4: we're exclusive, Like I'm in this relationship, like this is
- 54:30Speaker 4: my girl, like this this is where I'm about to
- 54:33Speaker 4: be for the time being. I thought that was interesting.
- 54:36Speaker 4: So while he didn't agree with a man Ha said
- 54:38Speaker 4: they were having serious relationships about serious talks about loving
- 54:42Speaker 4: each other, he still ten toes to like claim this relationship.
- 54:46Speaker 6: I thought that was interesting.
- 54:47Speaker 3: You also put the cookie down. She knows how to
- 54:49Speaker 3: train dogs.
- 54:51Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I thought it was, like it's the right
- 54:55Speaker 1: thing to say. I think they both look at this
- 54:58Speaker 1: like our plan failed miserably and we just have to
- 55:03Speaker 1: do this until we don't. And I don't think this
- 55:07Speaker 1: is going to work.
- 55:07Speaker 3: Ever, I don't look forward to people's demise often. I
- 55:16Speaker 3: do say, though, I am curious about how true karma
- 55:22Speaker 3: is gonna work because, like we talked about last week,
- 55:25Speaker 3: a large part of what why I believe they kept
- 55:28Speaker 3: in the Lindsay checking Andy thing is this all goes
- 55:32Speaker 3: down to the superhero who leaked those that audio. If
- 55:35Speaker 3: we really believe the theory that the leaked audio showing
- 55:38Speaker 3: the unfavorable responses of Amanda are why Bravo had to
- 55:42Speaker 3: include so many things that showed the man as flaws
- 55:45Speaker 3: because they couldn't protect her as one of the faces
- 55:48Speaker 3: of in the city. That means now a lot of
- 55:51Speaker 3: things that weren't gonna happen now have to be confronted.
- 55:54Speaker 3: And they knew that the reunion itself was not gonna
- 55:56Speaker 3: do it right, so they're like, oh, okay, the part
- 55:59Speaker 3: where Lindsay calls us out, we weren't gonna put that in
- 56:00Speaker 3: because a Mana was gonna get a good edit. But
- 56:02Speaker 3: since giving Amanda the edit we wanted is not gonna work,
- 56:05Speaker 3: we can't because they've been doing this for ten years.
- 56:07Speaker 3: By the way, a lot of people DM me and
- 56:08Speaker 3: said blue, there is a lot to substantiate the Amanda
- 56:11Speaker 3: edit theory because there's been several seasons of Amanda edits
- 56:13Speaker 3: that in retrospect. Rabo saw this and kept it out
- 56:16Speaker 3: to make her look a certain way to play along
- 56:18Speaker 3: with her. So there's a long history of the Amanda
- 56:20Speaker 3: edit once the Amanda Edit without the window because of
- 56:23Speaker 3: whoever leaked that audio. Now they're like Lindsey's right, we
- 56:26Speaker 3: are gonna walk away feeling unsatisfied now that we know
- 56:29Speaker 3: all this tea that's been spilled. This is the perfect
- 56:31Speaker 3: way for us to put the Lindsay part back in
- 56:33Speaker 3: as a moose boosch for part four. So I think
- 56:36Speaker 3: that it wasn't in the reunion that they decided that
- 56:38Speaker 3: they had to do Part four. I think the leak
- 56:40Speaker 3: actually was a lot more powerful And shout out to
- 56:42Speaker 3: woever did it help you kept your job. I think
- 56:44Speaker 3: the leak, even though it.
- 56:45Speaker 1: Was unprofessional is Jopah Lawrence, helped them find the go ahead.
- 56:50Speaker 3: The league was unprofessional, but the league did a thing.
- 56:54Speaker 3: The league did its thing. I think we're getting the
- 56:56Speaker 3: more honest version because of that leak. And so when
- 56:59Speaker 3: Lindsay stuff about livelihood, Lindsay was already worried about the
- 57:03Speaker 3: potential of what was gonna be air because Lindsay has
- 57:05Speaker 3: been around for a long time, very much like Portia,
- 57:07Speaker 3: you know. I like to compare them. Lindsay's been around
- 57:09Speaker 3: for a very long time. The girl knows how this works.
- 57:11Speaker 3: It's like, wait a minute, if you're in in the
- 57:13Speaker 3: city and he and in the city, but you're both
- 57:15Speaker 3: belsbub now, it's gonna fuck get my money with my baby, right,
- 57:17Speaker 3: Li's is think about her and her daughter. Right. This
- 57:20Speaker 3: is a way for them to say face Bravo by saying, fine,
- 57:23Speaker 3: we're gonna have Sierra and Mia have their ladies scorned. Whatever,
- 57:27Speaker 3: We're gonna have. Wes finally talked to Kyle because he
- 57:30Speaker 3: failed misserably in the reunion talking to Kyle and Kyle
- 57:32Speaker 3: wants to talk, and we're gonna also have Kyle talking.
- 57:35Speaker 3: I mean Amanda talking to whoever the hell she's I
- 57:37Speaker 3: blocked out Amanda whoever she's talking to in the clip, right,
- 57:40Speaker 3: I think who was it, Lindsay Lindsay. Right. So, them
- 57:44Speaker 3: talking to the groups that they have feels like a
- 57:47Speaker 3: response to the lead to me, I think it's brilliant.
- 57:49Speaker 3: I also think season seven, sorry that season seven, the
- 57:53Speaker 3: next season of Summer House. Sierra, if she comes back,
- 57:59Speaker 3: she's gonna have a lot of power.
- 58:03Speaker 2: She has to come back.
- 58:04Speaker 3: She has to come back seven. I think she's gonna
- 58:07Speaker 3: she might get paid like Lindsay and cow money the
- 58:09Speaker 3: next season because she's now the cornerstone of the how
- 58:13Speaker 3: we see the rest of the franchise.
- 58:15Speaker 4: Everybody needs to come back for season eleven. Like, I
- 58:17Speaker 4: don't believe in people like online saying they don't want
- 58:19Speaker 4: to see Amanda and West back, Like bring them the
- 58:21Speaker 4: funk back?
- 58:22Speaker 6: Are you kidding? That's the show I'm.
- 58:24Speaker 2: Watching if they come back.
- 58:25Speaker 5: By the way, you're scared you said, what Carlos.
- 58:28Speaker 1: I'm only watching if West and Amanda back. The thing
- 58:33Speaker 1: about me is this, I have to see the full
- 58:35Speaker 1: picture exactly.
- 58:37Speaker 4: That's that's my thing, right, Like I need to see
- 58:40Speaker 4: a resolution, or like I need to see how they
- 58:43Speaker 4: try to rebuild because what we know about TV and
- 58:46Speaker 4: like I have talked about this before. I talked about
- 58:49Speaker 4: this on the I Cannot podcast Jesse kJ Ben. They're
- 58:54Speaker 4: all too new to have any leverage, so they can't
- 58:56Speaker 4: say we don't want to film with West. Lindsay is
- 58:59Speaker 4: not gonna say that, right, carl I don't think would
- 59:02Speaker 4: say that. Kyle, I don't think will say that. The
- 59:04Speaker 4: only person that might say I don't want to film
- 59:06Speaker 4: with West is Sierra, and even Sierra I think could
- 59:10Speaker 4: be convinced to do it right, especially if she's gonna
- 59:13Speaker 4: be seen as like really powerful. She can still like
- 59:16Speaker 4: shit on them, say everything that she wants to say.
- 59:18Speaker 4: But the rest of the cast, that's their check. They're
- 59:21Speaker 4: all gonna be like they all have been at the reunion,
- 59:23Speaker 4: like we don't know when we're gonna talk to him again.
- 59:26Speaker 4: We hope, we don't know if things could be fixed.
- 59:28Speaker 4: Next season of Summer House, we're gonna see Amanda and
- 59:30Speaker 4: West be on an island by themselves for the first
- 59:32Speaker 4: couple of episodes, and then they're gonna slowly make their
- 59:34Speaker 4: way back into the group because the rest of the
- 59:36Speaker 4: group still needs that money. They still need to be
- 59:39Speaker 4: on the show, so they are gonna be able to
- 59:41Speaker 4: make their way back into the group. Things might not
- 59:43Speaker 4: be the way that they once were, but I don't
- 59:45Speaker 4: see them being on an island by themselves, and I
- 59:47Speaker 4: definitely don't see the entire cast refusing to film with them.
- 59:51Speaker 3: I do agree with you guys that objectively, they all
- 59:53Speaker 3: have to come back just for the production sake. I
- 59:56Speaker 3: also feel like, for me personally, the only way I
- 59:58Speaker 3: would enjoy it, though, as if we watch them break up,
- 1:00:01Speaker 3: I want to be there for them.
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: They're not but blue.
- 1:00:04Speaker 3: I want to watch it blow up in their faces.
- 1:00:06Speaker 3: I want to see want. I want that sick pleasure.
- 1:00:08Speaker 3: I'm letting my sacred race takeover that's happening. Yeah, I
- 1:00:12Speaker 3: need to see this, this blow up in everybody's face. Right,
- 1:00:15Speaker 3: So the sinister part of me who's been clocking this
- 1:00:17Speaker 3: girl for ten years and finally feel you don't understand
- 1:00:19Speaker 3: how people told me I was crazy about Amanda. So
- 1:00:21Speaker 3: I've been waiting a decade for this. Right to see
- 1:00:23Speaker 3: this finally culminate for those of us who clocked to
- 1:00:26Speaker 3: her tea would be deeply satisfying. And though we have
- 1:00:30Speaker 3: to think about the scandal, all of it all, there
- 1:00:33Speaker 3: is a way though that sometimes when this happens, when
- 1:00:36Speaker 3: people are so angry, that next season ends up being
- 1:00:39Speaker 3: the last season because the resentment is just even for
- 1:00:43Speaker 3: the check, the resentment just can't get a hold. So
- 1:00:46Speaker 3: I don't think Sierra can do more than one season
- 1:00:48Speaker 3: with them as an obligatory season. So I don't think
- 1:00:51Speaker 3: she has more than one season than her to gift
- 1:00:53Speaker 3: this as an audience. So either she leaves the franchise
- 1:00:56Speaker 3: because she's doing something bigger, or they have to completely
- 1:00:58Speaker 3: reconfigure it. I also don't think West Ego can take
- 1:01:01Speaker 3: being beaten on for more than one season. I think literally,
- 1:01:04Speaker 3: they have one more season to get as a collective,
- 1:01:06Speaker 3: and the season after that then it has to dismantle,
- 1:01:08Speaker 3: it has to agree.
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: I think they have one more season of all of
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: them together there, and I think Sierra is one hundred
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: percent leaving after the next season.
- 1:01:19Speaker 4: I thought that I thought they only had maybe like
- 1:01:22Speaker 4: a season or two with this particular group, because if
- 1:01:25Speaker 4: in the City gains legs, they're not gonna do like
- 1:01:27Speaker 4: Lindsay Kyle, They're not going to do Summerhouse and also
- 1:01:30Speaker 4: do in this they don't need to, right So I
- 1:01:33Speaker 4: thought going into this next season season eleven before the
- 1:01:35Speaker 4: scandal started, that we were probably going to get maybe
- 1:01:37Speaker 4: another season or two with this core group and then
- 1:01:39Speaker 4: they were going to break up.
- 1:01:40Speaker 6: Anyway, Do you think it's.
- 1:01:42Speaker 3: Gonna still have West though, because I feel like the
- 1:01:44Speaker 3: West was only supporting character in the city, and how
- 1:01:46Speaker 3: does Amanda do in the city without West?
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: Then well, that's the thing I think to your point, though,
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: I don't see West and Amanda making it through the
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: new season at all. And I think, I listen, since
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: you well, you can pay por Lindsay. But remember Porsia's
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: arc after season nine, the whole rumor, the candy thing,
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: and all of these girls looked at Porch like, we
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: don't want to wuck with you. I do think that
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: how we saw Porsche had to gain the respect and
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: the trust back from thost housewives.
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: Remember her nied he got into it, and that.
- 1:02:18Speaker 3: By the way, Lindsay was persona non grata and had
- 1:02:20Speaker 3: to work her way back in as well.
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think.
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: I think a man doesn't have to gravel back, and
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: I and and and that's how I see next season happening.
- 1:02:30Speaker 2: And it makes sense for the city.
- 1:02:33Speaker 4: You have a breakout this season, I think why not.
- 1:02:37Speaker 4: I think they would try to stay together.
- 1:02:39Speaker 3: I think that she did ten years with Kyle. You
- 1:02:41Speaker 3: don't understand. Let me tell you something, Carlos. Amanda is
- 1:02:43Speaker 3: like something you've never seen. She's like a virus that
- 1:02:45Speaker 3: just keeps mutating. I'm so serious, as Josh. She came
- 1:02:50Speaker 3: in as a side piece and got ten years out
- 1:02:53Speaker 3: of us. She is like a barnacle that just stuck
- 1:02:56Speaker 3: to the bottom of something. She's gonna as long as
- 1:02:59Speaker 3: the show is on, Amanda gonna try to get her
- 1:03:00Speaker 3: fingers into something.
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: So you think she's gonna she's gonna work to stay
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: with the West. I think I think only he's gonna
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: break up with her. She will die before she breaks
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: up with him. She wants to win. She's like no
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: more I've ever seen on TV.
- 1:03:12Speaker 3: Then, I'm trying to tell you she's a mutating the
- 1:03:15Speaker 3: thing she with Kyle, She's a mutating virus. She's not
- 1:03:19Speaker 3: leaving him. He's gonna have to impregnate somebody. And even then.
- 1:03:24Speaker 4: That's that's That's how I Carlos, we talked about this.
- 1:03:27Speaker 4: It's that theory where like your mom tells you that
- 1:03:29Speaker 4: they don't like your girlfriend or your boyfriend, how you
- 1:03:31Speaker 4: stick with them, Like, no, Mama, I'm really in love.
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: She needs to win Perfectnownci, she needs to win Kyle.
- 1:03:38Speaker 3: Everybody said to leave Kyle, despite that she gave us
- 1:03:40Speaker 3: ten years of Kyle.
- 1:03:41Speaker 5: Yes, she married him knowing she shouldn't have married him.
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: Worse than I thought.
- 1:03:46Speaker 3: Okay, Oh, it's much worse. Amana is a long suffering somebody.
- 1:03:49Speaker 3: The show has to end for her to get out
- 1:03:50Speaker 3: of our lives. The show is they have to close lights.
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: Well, Blue and Jasmine, are you guys going to come
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: back next week to do the last and final summer.
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: I'm begging you in front of the rain drops.
- 1:04:05Speaker 3: You can't say community service, community.
- 1:04:09Speaker 4: Service, Carlos, I'm friend again. I'm acting like I won't,
- 1:04:13Speaker 4: but I'll be here.
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: I'm on my knees begging, can you please? It's the
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: last one.
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: We have to see what happens when there are front
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: facing no blam, no wardrobe, no big stage lights, no andy,
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: just them.
- 1:04:27Speaker 3: Can listen? Give me some sat X Yes, allegedly, we're not.
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: Doing it talking about human resource.
- 1:04:36Speaker 3: I need some beata blockers.
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: We will have them shift from Amanda's house. Okay, I
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: will make that happen. I do know the production, so
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: rain jobs. Let us know your thoughts on this episode.
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: Blue and jass Man, I can't think. I'll anover take
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: a time out to recap this with me tonight and
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: I will see you guys next week.
- 1:04:56Speaker 3: I cannot believe this Black night.
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