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Doug Band’s Maxwell Emails Clash With His Congressional Testimony (10/2/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. I don't think it's any surprise to anybody
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  Speaker 1: that's been listening to the podcast when I say that
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe that the people that were called before
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  Speaker 1: Congress to talk about Epstein were being honest. And one
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  Speaker 1: of the most dishonest people that sat in front of Congress,
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  Speaker 1: in my opinion, was Doug Band. This is a man
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  Speaker 1: that just recently went on this whole entire whirlwind tour
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  Speaker 1: of talking about Bill Clinton and his ties to Jeffrey Epstein.
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  Speaker 1: And then, fast forward to this congressional hearing, and all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden he forgot. He misspoke. He doesn't know. Oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: I don't have any recollection of that. And Congress just
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  Speaker 1: took it. But thankfully, I'm not the only one that's
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  Speaker 1: been paying attention to Doug Band and what he's been
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  Speaker 1: saying over the years. And today, we have an article
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  Speaker 1: from The Alligator, which is an outlet down in Florida.
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  Speaker 1: And the headline, Newly Discovered Documents Illuminate Doug Bann's Relationship
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  Speaker 1: with Glenn Maxwell. This article was authored by Alexa Ryan.
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  Speaker 1: The Presidential Search Advisory Committee member, whose connections to Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Epstein and Glenn Maxwell were uncovered by the alligator in January,
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  Speaker 1: testified before Congress June 30th about his relationship with the pair.
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  Speaker 1: Throughout the 125-page transcribed testimony, Doug Band, who was former
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  Speaker 1: President Bill Clinton's right-hand man in the 2000s, said he
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  Speaker 1: didn't recall in response to nearly every question asked about
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  Speaker 1: his experiences with Epstein and Maxwell. And I told you
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  Speaker 1: at the time that he was lying. And guess what?
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly what he's doing and what he did. His
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  Speaker 1: story has changed so drastically that it's not even funny.
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  Speaker 1: And I wonder if the Clintons got to him. And
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  Speaker 1: I know that sounds crazy, right? Like something out of
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  Speaker 1: a movie. But believe me when I tell you that
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  Speaker 1: shit happens. There's a lot of pressure that's put on
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  Speaker 1: people when it comes to these kinds of situations. And
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  Speaker 1: if you want to make sure that you're not going
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  Speaker 1: to pay the penalty down the road, you have to
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  Speaker 1: play ball now. And obviously that's what's happening with Doug Band.
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  Speaker 1: And there's also been a lot of talk that Doug
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  Speaker 1: Band and Glenn Maxwell were bumping uglies. So do with
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  Speaker 1: that as you will. The Alligator's previous investigation into the
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  Speaker 1: depth of Band's relationship with the two highlighted flirtatious emails
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  Speaker 1: between Band and Maxwell insinuating a romantic relationship. Band has denied.
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  Speaker 1: The Alligator couldn't confirm any criminal wrongdoing or whether he
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  Speaker 1: knew about the crimes being committed by Epstein and Maxwell
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  Speaker 1: at the time. Well, I'm not going to say that.
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  Speaker 1: I won't go that far. But the fact that he's
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  Speaker 1: acting like he has no idea who Glenn Maxwell and
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein were is a gigantic tell, especially considering that
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  Speaker 1: this man was responsible for bringing them into the sphere, right?
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  Speaker 1: You weren't getting access to Bill Clinton without going through
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  Speaker 1: Doug Band. And anybody who was alive during that period
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  Speaker 1: of time knows exactly what I'm talking about. And then
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  Speaker 1: you go back to that Vanity Fair article where Doug
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  Speaker 1: Band was just spilling all the beans about the Clintons
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  Speaker 1: and then match it up to what he said during
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  Speaker 1: the congressional testimony. And it's obvious that he's lying. In
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  Speaker 1: the testimony, he said he doesn't recall many interactions with Maxwell,
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  Speaker 1: although he did say that they were friends socially. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: friends socially, yeah, yeah. What does that mean? Well, in
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  Speaker 1: my opinion, it means that him and Ghislaine Maxwell were
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  Speaker 1: on the creep. And boy, has there been a bigger
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  Speaker 1: skafooza in this whole entire story than Ghislaine Maxwell? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: is there anybody that she wasn't getting her back blown
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  Speaker 1: out by? Despite denying visiting Little St. James, Epstein's infamous
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  Speaker 1: island in the Caribbean, where children were believed to have
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  Speaker 1: been abused by him and his co-conspirators, emails connected Band
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  Speaker 1: insinuate he was at least invited. Band previously indicated he
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  Speaker 1: often used an email labeled WJC. When asked by the
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  Speaker 1: House Oversight Committee in June if all the emails sent
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  Speaker 1: from WJC email accounts were his, Band said, I believe so. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I believe so. This dude actually expects us to believe
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  Speaker 1: that he had some kind of shared email account. Oh, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I share my email account with Joe Bob from down
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  Speaker 1: the way. A guy like Doug Band, dealing with all
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  Speaker 1: kinds of sensitive information, is not sharing his email with anyone. Well,
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  Speaker 1: except for maybe Jeffrey Epstein and his little gumad over here,
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  Speaker 1: Glenn Maxwell. Other emails available in the Epstein file database
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  Speaker 1: also implicate Band as the sender and the owner of
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  Speaker 1: the account. In April 2002, the WJC sender wrote an
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  Speaker 1: email to Maxwell. Email it to my regular email, dband,
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  Speaker 1: at owjc.org. In another email, to the WJC account, Maxwell
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  Speaker 1: addressed the recipient as my dearest Douglas. Yo, imagine Ghislaine
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell calling you her dearest anything. I'd rather stare directly
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  Speaker 1: into the eyes of Medusa. I'd rather spend time in
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  Speaker 1: a Taliban prison. I'd rather listen to the 11 Lindsay
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  Speaker 1: Clancy jurors that berated the one holdout juror. My dearest Douglas.
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  Speaker 1: On August 25th, 2002, the account sent an email to
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell indicating the sender had been invited to the island.
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  Speaker 1: To what? Come back to NY to play with me.
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  Speaker 1: Fun week here, reads the email, which was sent from
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  Speaker 1: an account ending in WJC, Clinton's initials. Island looks unlikely
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  Speaker 1: for me. going with WJC on a brief vacation, then
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  Speaker 1: back for two days. Can't do Hawaii either. Does that
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  Speaker 1: sound like somebody that's not intimately attached to somebody or connected?
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  Speaker 1: How many people do you talk to where you're talking
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  Speaker 1: about vacations, this, that, the other thing, and you're not
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  Speaker 1: close to them? I know personally, I'm not going on
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  Speaker 1: vacation with anybody that I'm not close to. So they
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  Speaker 1: can save the whole entire shuffling of the story for
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  Speaker 1: somebody else. And once again, I'm calling on Congress to
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  Speaker 1: do their job and hold Doug Band accountable. Despite denying
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  Speaker 1: having had anything more than friendship with Maxwell, several emails
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  Speaker 1: further indicate a more serious relationship between the pair in
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  Speaker 1: the 2000s. On December 16, 2002, Maxwell sent an email
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  Speaker 1: to a redacted email address. Boo-boo, I'm in PB. We
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  Speaker 1: came back from the island a few days and may
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  Speaker 1: come to New York tomorrow. Are you around? I am
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  Speaker 1: very ill and require immediate medical attention. I'm suffering from boo-boo-itis,
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  Speaker 1: a very serious condition. Without a boo-boo fix, the symptoms
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  Speaker 1: become very pronounced. A withdrawn, faraway look, frequent sighing, prone
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  Speaker 1: to cries into the night that sound like Shakespeare's sonnets
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  Speaker 1: that sound like this. Oh, Douglas. Oh, Douglas. Wherefore art thou, Douglas?
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  Speaker 1: Hang on a minute. I have to throw up real quick.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we're back. But all kidding aside, Can anyone
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  Speaker 1: sit here and tell me that Congress shouldn't be looking
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  Speaker 1: deeper into Doug Band, at the very least, for lying
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  Speaker 1: to them? You would think that they'd take that serious,
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  Speaker 1: and you would think that that would be a gigantic issue.
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  Speaker 1: But I guess anybody can just get up there and
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  Speaker 1: tell whatever lies they want to Congress. On the same day,
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  Speaker 1: the WJC account also sent an email to a redacted address.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. You make me miss boo-boo even more.
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  Speaker 1: My boo-boo-itis is also reaching epic proportions. I'm here all week,
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  Speaker 1: lots going on, but I will be in Boo Booville
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  Speaker 1: the second you arrive from Redacted on Monday. Alright, look,
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  Speaker 1: do I need to break down what they're talking about?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I do. Talking about a booty call, right?
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  Speaker 1: Come fly in, get that ass spanked real quick, and
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  Speaker 1: call it a day. In December 2002, Maxwell and the
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  Speaker 1: WJC account exchanged a number of details about their plans
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  Speaker 1: to meet up while they were both in New York City.
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  Speaker 1: We have lots to catch up on. And even more given,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to Naomi's party tonight at Cipriani's with Brenda. Yikes,
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  Speaker 1: I miss you. How long are you here for? We
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  Speaker 1: have to have alone time soon, or I'll even be
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  Speaker 1: more ill than you, boo-boo, Maxwell wrote to the WJC account.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe I have to repost the Doug Band transcript
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  Speaker 1: over the weekend so you can see the lies. Because,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I know we go through a lot of stuff, right?
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  Speaker 1: And it's hard to keep everything straight. But I told
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  Speaker 1: you at the time of that testimony that Doug Band
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  Speaker 1: was not being truthful. And I think that's overwhelmingly obvious
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  Speaker 1: at this point. The WJC account wrote back, Oh, you
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  Speaker 1: do love trouble. I would love some private time. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to stay in New York until Friday evening and
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  Speaker 1: then come back down to PB. I obviously have flexible
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  Speaker 1: plans as I was not even meant to be in
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  Speaker 1: New York and have just started making plans. We can
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  Speaker 1: do everything including breakfast. Oops, I get saucy around Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: Of course I am under doctor's orders. It's as a
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  Speaker 1: heavy dose of boo-boo as my prescription. Sometimes being sick
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  Speaker 1: can be fun. Well, that's disturbing when you look at
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  Speaker 1: everything in context. Sometimes being sick can be fun. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Glenn Maxwell is certainly sick. A sick degenerate. A bipedal serpent.
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  Speaker 1: A child molester. A child abuser. And an all-around scumbag.
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  Speaker 1: And that's who Doug Band chose to spend his time with.
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  Speaker 1: And that's who Doug Band chose to have carnal relations with.
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  Speaker 1: According to the reporting, And in 2001, And in 2001,
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  Speaker 1: Ban wrote to Maxwell from his personal email confirming he
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  Speaker 1: and Clinton use the same phone. However, he denied sharing
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  Speaker 1: a BlackBerry phone with Clinton. In his June testimony, just
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  Speaker 1: another lie. I mean, lie after lie after lie, and
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  Speaker 1: no accountability. Meanwhile, the rest of us, we better play
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  Speaker 1: by the rules. In 2002, Maxwell asked a WJC account
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  Speaker 1: if she could bring her crew with her to the movies.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to the movies, and then we will meet you.
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  Speaker 1: Two questions, where? And, there is a crew here, plus
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  Speaker 1: two Brazilians. Can they come too if we come? Thoughts?
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell wrote. In 2004, Ban sent an email to Maxwell.
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  Speaker 1: appearing to detail a business deal. Atiyah's met with Mary today.
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  Speaker 1: She likes him a lot. Smart of him. They talked money,
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  Speaker 1: and Mary was shy about it, and they talked about
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  Speaker 1: low six figures. I would like to see her do better. Thanks,
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  Speaker 1: it's important for WJC, me to get her taken care of.
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  Speaker 1: She did a lot in the old days. Surely he's
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  Speaker 1: paying people tons, so $ 250, 000 shouldn't be out of the question.
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  Speaker 1: Hope Florida is fun. I'm never coming back, he wrote
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  Speaker 1: in an email. And I'm not too sure who Mary is.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe Mary Erdos? Very possible. And the Atias? Obviously Peter Atia, right? Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Peter Atia? That would be my guess. Gustavo Lage, a
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  Speaker 1: criminal lawyer and former prosecutor in the Miami-Dade County State
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  Speaker 1: Attorney's Office, said it would take more than just documents
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  Speaker 1: found in the Epstein files to determine any criminal wrongdoing
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  Speaker 1: on Ban's part, like perjury or lying under oath. They
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  Speaker 1: can use the statements that he made before Congress and
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  Speaker 1: the transcript from Congress against him, he said, but you
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  Speaker 1: would have to have somebody come testify and be able
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  Speaker 1: to prove what he said wasn't true. Well, he says
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  Speaker 1: in the email that he was using the phone that
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  Speaker 1: Clinton was using, and then he lied about it to Congress.
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  Speaker 1: That's one provable lie, and I think there's a lot more.
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  Speaker 1: The burden of proof would be a lot lower in
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  Speaker 1: a civil trial, he added. It's a significantly more relaxed standard,
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  Speaker 1: he said. The difference is because in one case, a
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  Speaker 1: person's liberty is at stake, and in another matter, a
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  Speaker 1: person is being exposed to a money judgment. The biggest
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  Speaker 1: hurdle apart from proving criminality is the statute of limitations
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  Speaker 1: on criminal wrongdoing in these cases. Any adults abused by
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  Speaker 1: Epstein or his co-conspirators have passed the statute of limitations,
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  Speaker 1: Laghi said. Vino Varghese, a white collar and criminal defense
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  Speaker 1: lawyer in New York City, said it's unlikely anything will
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  Speaker 1: come from Bann's testimony before Congress or the documents uncovered
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  Speaker 1: in the Epstein files. Political theater, folks. There it is.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly like I told you. The question is, are you
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  Speaker 1: going to accept it? They work for you. Keep that
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  Speaker 1: in mind. I think a whole bunch of these congressional
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  Speaker 1: hearings were trying to uncover dirt and try to see
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  Speaker 1: if there's anything that could potentially tie all these people
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  Speaker 1: that were on the flights to Epstein's Island together. into
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  Speaker 1: any sort of criminality, and nothing's coming. In my view,
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  Speaker 1: it's much ado about nothing. Mr. Vino Varkes has no
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  Speaker 1: idea what he's talking about, folks. Congratulations, buddy. Inserting yourself
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  Speaker 1: into a topic you have no idea about. It would
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  Speaker 1: be like me jumping in and talking about complex math equations.
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  Speaker 1: Or maybe, just maybe, you should stay in your lane
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  Speaker 1: and talk about the shit that you know about. Lying
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  Speaker 1: before Congress is most likely charged with ban could receive.
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  Speaker 1: He said if it's somehow proven banned and Maxwell had
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  Speaker 1: a romantic relationship. However, even that is very unlikely. Hypothetically,
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  Speaker 1: if they were somehow demonstrated that there was a video
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  Speaker 1: of the two of them having sex or something along
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  Speaker 1: those lines, or she came out and said that no,
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  Speaker 1: we were actually in a sexual relationship, you could potentially
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  Speaker 1: see a charge for lying to Congress, he said. Reactions
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  Speaker 1: or lack thereof. When Bann's initial connections to Epstein and
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell were revealed in January and February, UF said the
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  Speaker 1: documents didn't warrant any action and declined to comment a
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  Speaker 1: second time. UF College Democrats President Harper Miller said UF
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  Speaker 1: made the wrong choice, adding that the university's response both
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  Speaker 1: times was disappointing. The decision to essentially push this under
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  Speaker 1: the rug is disrespectful and hurtful to sexual assault victims
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  Speaker 1: at UF and in the Gainesville community. And it sets
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  Speaker 1: a dangerous precedent in the future. If we as a
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  Speaker 1: university are deciding to take an individual's claims of innocence
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  Speaker 1: at face value, she said, well, look, everybody's innocent until
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  Speaker 1: proven guilty. We shouldn't just be accepting allegations. What we
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  Speaker 1: should be doing is investigating allegations. And then if there's
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  Speaker 1: anything there, we move the process forward. And that's not
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  Speaker 1: just for the Epstein story. That should be for everything.
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  Speaker 1: Everything should be evidence-based. Nothing should be based on feelings
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  Speaker 1: or vibes or astrological signs. How about we just base
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  Speaker 1: things on facts? Miller said she hopes that the university
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  Speaker 1: launches an independent investigation given the response of other universities
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  Speaker 1: in similar situations. In an email to The Alligator on
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  Speaker 1: September 23rd, UF spokesperson Blake Trowski declined to comment. When
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  Speaker 1: MIT discovered Epstein made a series of donations to the
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  Speaker 1: university from 2002 to 2017. It launched an independent investigation
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  Speaker 1: into who facilitated the donations and whether they knew about
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  Speaker 1: them after his conviction. Following the findings, the director of
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  Speaker 1: the MIT Media Lab, who was found to have known
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  Speaker 1: about the donations, resigned and MIT leadership revised its donation
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  Speaker 1: acceptance guidelines. The university went on to donate every dollar
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  Speaker 1: Epstein gave to the university, to four non-profit organizations serving
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  Speaker 1: sexual assault victims. Look, I told you from the very
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  Speaker 1: beginning that Doug Band was bullshitting. And I still feel
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  Speaker 1: that way. But I don't think that the reaction should
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  Speaker 1: be to shrug our shoulders and just say, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: they all lied. I think it's time to hold people accountable.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that Doug Band is as good a
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  Speaker 1: place as any to get that started. All the information
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  Speaker 1: that goes with this episode can be found in the
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  Speaker 1: description box.