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Episode 28 Season 2 NFL Week 3 · ZBD Sports Podcast

0:38
SPEAKER_02: D D, I get it.
0:41
SPEAKER_02: Week uh week three, going into week four of the season.
0:47
SPEAKER_00: I don't want to hear that.
0:49
SPEAKER_00: Tell you that right now.
0:50
SPEAKER_00: I mean, the season is a quarter of the way over.
0:53
SPEAKER_00: God, that hurts my heart.
0:55
SPEAKER_00: Be so ready for it then next season.
0:58
SPEAKER_00: That's the thing with football.
0:59
SPEAKER_00: It's like fuck, bro.
1:00
SPEAKER_00: Like week by week.
1:01
SPEAKER_02: You look you look forward to it so much every single day of the week.
1:04
SPEAKER_02: And we'll because like I mean, like it is lucky.
1:08
SPEAKER_02: I mean, we're glad to have, or we're I mean, we're lucky to have Thursday, Sunday, and uh Monday.
1:14
SPEAKER_02: So three out of the seven, seven nights, there is football.
1:18
SPEAKER_00: So it's all one week though, so it's just like every game is like important.
1:23
SPEAKER_02: You mean basketball, baseball, games every time like every day really doesn't seem like the soccer season is pretty long, right?
1:31
SPEAKER_02: Well the soccer season is is like kind of the same as football.
1:34
SPEAKER_02: Every game matters, I'm not gonna lie.
1:36
SPEAKER_02: Like you can definitely lose some games earlier in the season and come back later.
1:39
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:40
SPEAKER_02: But um, yeah.
1:41
SPEAKER_02: But not football though, just having to only be in three months.
1:46
SPEAKER_02: Like three and a half, like three and a half months with playoffs, it's definitely September.
1:52
SPEAKER_00: December.
1:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:53
unknown: Four.
1:53
SPEAKER_00: Four, yeah.
1:54
SPEAKER_00: And then January is playoffs, and then February.
1:56
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I mean, for really four months because of uh well, actually five, because of I mean it's all it's playoffs going on all through January, and then it's just the Super Bowl or something.
2:08
SPEAKER_00: But anyways, uh let's jump into this breaking news.
2:11
SPEAKER_00: Um not really breaking for a lot of you guys watching, because you know, if you're watching football, you already know this because it came out yesterday.
2:18
SPEAKER_02: But it still is still is news that we're uh yeah, I mean H L for the season.
2:24
SPEAKER_00: That's tough.
2:24
SPEAKER_02: Kind of Miami's only bright spot, Achilles too.
2:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, those Killys are always I feel like the tougher out of like ACL and Achilles, I feel like, or like those major um like non-contact injuries, I feel like Achilles is the worst out of the two.
2:42
SPEAKER_00: Um you look at like numbers-wise.
2:46
SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, yeah, but I'm just saying, even out of those two, I feel like you may I I could be wrong.
2:50
SPEAKER_00: I don't know, but I just feel like you know, just I've never looked up the numbers on it, but just recent players that's had Achilles versus ACO, like I feel like ACO, they've came back better than Achilles.
3:03
SPEAKER_00: Like Achilles, I feel like Achilles is a little bit more detrimental, um, especially as a running back, because it takes a little bit of that like you agility and explosion.
3:12
SPEAKER_00: You're right, and ACO does too, but that's more of like, you know, cutting, right?
3:16
SPEAKER_00: That's like in and out and shit like that.
3:18
SPEAKER_00: ACO, that's you know, I mean, that's you can still, you know, be a Derrick Henry type, I feel like, and just you know, because you don't do a lot of cutting, it's just straight through the fucking hole.
3:28
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
3:28
SPEAKER_00: Because he's bigger than I mean he's still you know, he got footwork.
3:31
SPEAKER_00: He cut, I mean, I'm not saying that, but like he's his main what we know Derrick Henry for his fucking world.
3:37
SPEAKER_00: He's a power back, yeah.
3:38
SPEAKER_00: You know, so um, yeah, I'll say that.
3:42
SPEAKER_00: That's that's kind of big for them.
3:43
SPEAKER_00: No, it's definitely tough for Miami.
3:44
SPEAKER_02: There's I mean this is a scratch season for them.
3:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean they're gonna be, they might have the number one pick potentially.
3:50
SPEAKER_02: So I mean, just looking forward toward to next year.
3:53
SPEAKER_02: We're looking at that's kind of all you can do at that point.
3:56
SPEAKER_02: You're feeling about a ton of Brighton.
3:58
SPEAKER_00: They're probably the worst team in the NFL.
4:00
SPEAKER_00: I mean, who maybe them are the Titans?
4:02
SPEAKER_00: I would say maybe the Titans haven't had it look pretty bad.
4:06
SPEAKER_00: They have offense just can't fucking do anything against anybody.
4:10
SPEAKER_00: Um I don't I'm looking through the divisions or whatever.
4:15
SPEAKER_00: I mean, Atlanta was on that, and we'll get to Atlanta here uh next up as our first game.
4:22
SPEAKER_02: But Atlanta Green Bay, which is also another team that we can maybe throw in there.
4:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm still taking it.
4:27
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I mean just because they have a good, like just because they have good players, but right now they haven't looked very good at all.
4:35
SPEAKER_02: No, but I mean, but they're also the only win they had was an overtime win against the Jets.
4:39
SPEAKER_00: Right, so the Jets, as we'll as we'll we've seen a lot this this start of this year, the Jets uh um Was there week one when the Titans, right?
4:50
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
4:51
SPEAKER_00: So I mean they had week one against the Titans and then or no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
4:56
SPEAKER_00: Titans first week one was um they decided they decided to uh or was it?
5:02
SPEAKER_00: It was the Jets, you're right.
5:03
SPEAKER_00: Yep, it was Jets.
5:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Jets beat them.
5:06
SPEAKER_00: Um and then they had Green Bay, which they you know win overtime, could have been Green Bay and then Uday.
5:12
SPEAKER_00: Detroit Detroit, yeah.
5:13
SPEAKER_00: And they played good against Detroit.
5:15
SPEAKER_00: So the Jets haven't been, you know, the Jets kind of old, right?
5:19
SPEAKER_00: Like they've been kind of competitive this year.
5:21
SPEAKER_00: They've put up a fight.
5:22
SPEAKER_00: Like every game, they could be three row right now.
5:24
SPEAKER_02: They haven't gone up against a good defense.
5:26
SPEAKER_00: No, I mean no, absolutely.
5:29
SPEAKER_00: Green Bay, Green, well, that's the thing, is like Green Bay was like going into that Atlanta game, uh Green, that was the one kind of one fewer, like one of few things that was going for them, it was their defense.
5:46
SPEAKER_00: Like their defense played decent.
5:48
SPEAKER_00: Minnesota, the score is gonna end it, obviously because they thorough scored 37, so it's gonna indicate like what they gave up 37.
5:56
SPEAKER_00: But realistically, if you watch the game, pretty sure it's a fumble, right?
5:59
SPEAKER_00: They got touchdowns or something like that.
6:01
SPEAKER_00: No, the first game, Minnesota.
6:03
SPEAKER_02: Oh, the Minnesota Minnesota Green Bay was tough.
6:06
SPEAKER_00: Minnesota's defense won that game, right?
6:08
SPEAKER_00: They put it in a game.
6:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was so kind of Green Bay's offense, kind of crumbled apart a little bit.
6:15
SPEAKER_02: But you gotta give credit to Minnesota's defense.
6:19
SPEAKER_00: Right.
6:19
SPEAKER_00: So I mean, like, and in their off Green Bay's offense put uh their defense in the bad positions, right?
6:27
SPEAKER_00: Like fumbling, turn, whatever it is.
6:29
SPEAKER_00: Um, so that's what I said.
6:31
SPEAKER_00: Something like Green Bay's defense, with all things considered, played relatively well.
6:36
SPEAKER_00: Carson Wentz did not have a great game.
6:40
SPEAKER_00: Uh Kyler Murray had a concussion.
6:42
SPEAKER_00: Jefferson, I mean, like they, I mean, it's just Green Bay's offense that kind of shot themselves in the foot.
6:48
SPEAKER_00: And then the second week against the Jets, they gave up what, 20 or 22 points.
6:53
SPEAKER_00: Their defense didn't play back.
6:55
SPEAKER_02: 24-21.
6:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
6:56
SPEAKER_00: And so once again, their them not being able to move the ball on offense is what gave the Jets that lead early on.
7:03
SPEAKER_00: It's because their offense, once again, so it's putting pressure.
7:06
SPEAKER_00: And then, you know, last week or this week was the first time, I think, where I was like, okay, well, no, this is 100% on the defense, in my opinion.
7:16
SPEAKER_00: Not saying that, not taking anything off the offense.
7:19
SPEAKER_00: Like, they obviously didn't play that well either.
7:22
SPEAKER_00: Um, but the defense, B John having the game he had, Drake London having the game he had.
7:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
7:27
SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, and especially with Pendicks coming back for the first time in what, nine, ten months, whatever it is.
7:34
SPEAKER_00: And, you know, he didn't really have a good game, but he didn't have a bad game.
7:38
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he threw for he threw for like two, he threw for 200 yards to London.
7:43
SPEAKER_00: So Right, yeah, and I think he had one interest.
7:45
SPEAKER_00: He had one interception, I believe, because he had a f a pick on the first drive.
7:49
SPEAKER_00: I think.
7:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
7:50
SPEAKER_00: First, it may have been the first ride.
7:53
SPEAKER_00: Or it's early.
7:54
SPEAKER_00: I'm pretty sure it was the first drive he had a pick.
7:56
SPEAKER_00: I can't remember.
7:57
SPEAKER_00: It might have been.
7:57
SPEAKER_00: I think so.
7:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
7:58
SPEAKER_00: It didn't start off too pretty for them.
8:00
SPEAKER_00: But Bichon, they just they coaching and the team gave this motherfucker the ball.
8:06
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
8:07
SPEAKER_00: Like we got the best, or you know what I mean, or one of the top two best fucking running back in the goddamn league, him and Gibbs.
8:13
SPEAKER_00: Let's get this motherfucker the ball.
8:15
SPEAKER_00: And, you know, that's and that's just what that was.
8:17
SPEAKER_00: And Green Bay couldn't, you know, do anything about it.
8:21
SPEAKER_00: Um, so yeah, I mean, and and and you know, Atlanta, it's kind of a game that they need it, right?
8:29
SPEAKER_00: Getting blown out by fucking Carolina, week two, getting destroyed, putting up three points, and then the first week against Pittsburgh.
8:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they lost it.
8:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, okay.
8:41
SPEAKER_00: Not playing well.
8:41
SPEAKER_02: So they definitely needed it.
8:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
8:43
SPEAKER_00: And Green Bay being vulnerable as they are, um, it was not really it was kind of a surprise, honestly.
8:52
SPEAKER_00: But I mean, I kind of I wasn't surprised Atlanta won.
8:54
SPEAKER_00: I was surprised.
8:55
SPEAKER_02: The score line, yeah.
8:59
SPEAKER_00: But yeah.
9:00
SPEAKER_02: Um going to that Bengals Steelers game next.
9:04
SPEAKER_02: Um shootout for a while.
9:07
SPEAKER_02: Um Bengals defense kind of dropped off a little bit.
9:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
9:12
SPEAKER_02: Um, because I mean through I mean through the first three quarters, I feel like it was relatively um I mean, touchdown for touchdown, there were a few punts by both teams, um and a few field like one or two field goals from each team.
9:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was it was I think ten to fourteen or something like that at halftime.
9:34
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
9:34
SPEAKER_02: Or because yeah, I mean, I feel like you guys were you guys were up for the majority of it.
9:48
SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
9:49
SPEAKER_00: Or no, yeah, so at halftime at the first touchdown, I knew at halftime it was 17-17.
9:54
SPEAKER_00: Okay, it was tied up, okay.
9:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so it's like it's just back and forth all game.
9:58
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it was they scored first and we scored, and then they scored and we kicked the first time.
10:03
SPEAKER_02: And then in the the fourth quarter, that muff punt was the first thing that kind of changed.
10:08
SPEAKER_00: Well, no, I it was uh the running into the kicker.
10:11
SPEAKER_00: That is what changed that right there games because they scored a touchdown on that drive after that.
10:18
SPEAKER_00: That is, I mean, the fumble too, but that was the start of it.
10:21
SPEAKER_00: Like that fucking running into the kicker, running the kicker was the start of it.
10:25
SPEAKER_01: We were up by um we were up fucking twenty to seventeen at that point.
10:35
SPEAKER_01: Right?
10:36
SPEAKER_00: So, you know what I mean like that's a 10-point swing.
10:39
SPEAKER_00: Um you know, I don't know, who knows?
10:41
SPEAKER_00: I mean maybe, maybe go three and out that that next drive and they get the ball back and score again.
10:47
SPEAKER_00: We don't know, or maybe we kick a field goal and go up twenty-three to seventeen, or maybe score a touchdown and go twenty-seven.
10:55
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we I don't know.
10:56
SPEAKER_00: But I know that hurt us right there.
10:59
SPEAKER_00: Definitely momentum.
11:00
SPEAKER_00: The run there and and and Aaron Rodgers, listen, you know, I get it.
11:06
SPEAKER_00: He did play very well.
11:08
SPEAKER_00: He did.
11:09
SPEAKER_00: But would I say was he carving our defense up?
11:12
SPEAKER_00: I don't think so.
11:13
SPEAKER_00: He did throw for 290 yards, but he also went 19 for 34, which is 55%, which is not good.
11:23
SPEAKER_00: If you're completing your pass at 50% as a quarterback, that's not good at all.
11:28
SPEAKER_00: At all.
11:29
SPEAKER_00: That's fair.
11:29
SPEAKER_00: At all.
11:30
SPEAKER_00: Like that's you getting pinch for that.
11:32
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
11:33
SPEAKER_00: Like that shit, you that's you mean there's no you look at any top fucking quarterback, there's not Tom Brady, Payton, whatever, don't like 50.
11:40
SPEAKER_00: That's so he threw the ball a lot, didn't complete that much.
11:43
SPEAKER_00: You mean so I'm not if I'm not really that upset, and the same thing goes back to the week before that, you know, Stroud threw through 350, but he threw the ball almost 60 times.
11:53
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
11:54
SPEAKER_00: So if you're throwing that much, you're gonna get some yards, and the same thing, I mean, he threw the ball 36 times and only completed.
12:00
SPEAKER_00: So our defense, passing-wise, didn't play that bad in the second half.
12:06
SPEAKER_00: I mean, because I watched the whole game, but the run game is what to me was a difference, other than besides the turnovers, because Jalen Warren ran the ball well, averaged like six, seven yards per carry, and that opened up play action in the past for Aaron Rodgers.
12:22
SPEAKER_00: But it still goes back to my point, is like, you know, if I like I said I don't care um the fumble, obviously at the end or Burrow.
12:31
SPEAKER_01: People that's what people are gonna look at.
12:33
SPEAKER_00: They're gonna see, you know, Burrow fumbling at the end.
12:36
SPEAKER_00: That obviously killed us at the end.
12:38
SPEAKER_01: I mean that changed the game.
12:40
SPEAKER_00: That I mean, it didn't really change the game.
12:42
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's a it finished the game for us, but what changed the game, like I'll keep going is those they're just the special teams is what lost us the game.
12:51
SPEAKER_00: If we just don't do it's mental mistakes, that was those are meant, it wasn't nothing that the Steelers did, right?
12:59
SPEAKER_00: That's my thing is like it'd be different if it was uh something that Pittsburgh did or some trick shit or whatever it is and won the whatever.
13:08
SPEAKER_00: But a fumble, catching a ball in return, that's mental.
13:11
SPEAKER_00: You do this every day, it's like at work, right?
13:14
SPEAKER_00: You make mental, it's muscle memory, like that's a mistake.
13:17
SPEAKER_00: And the same thing with the roughing the kid.
13:19
SPEAKER_00: That put them at the the fumble, that put them at the fucking 20 of their 20, 25 yards.
13:26
SPEAKER_02: It was 14 points that they got from those two mistakes.
13:28
SPEAKER_00: 10.
13:29
SPEAKER_00: So they gotta feel our defense did extend, they stood stout and they got to feel, but I'm just saying 10 points, if you don't have to you take those 10 points off, they don't win the game.
13:38
SPEAKER_00: No, even if we don't score another a point.
13:41
SPEAKER_00: So that's you mean that's you mean that's my take from it.
13:45
SPEAKER_02: Um, post-divisional game.
13:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's another thing.
13:49
SPEAKER_02: It was in Pittsburgh, right?
13:50
SPEAKER_00: So honestly, you know, I was talking my shit, uh, but I was a little worried going in, and I wasn't I didn't think we were gonna win, but I wasn't surprised if we lost because it's a divisional game.
14:05
SPEAKER_00: It's against Pittsburgh, it's in Pittsburgh, right?
14:08
SPEAKER_00: We're 2-0, they're fucking 1-1, didn't look good against New England at all, didn't look good against Atlanta, even though they beat them, but they didn't put up 21 points.
14:19
SPEAKER_00: Like they didn't really, they took, they didn't really look good in the first two weeks.
14:22
SPEAKER_00: So they were kind of, you know what I mean.
14:24
SPEAKER_00: Like it was like a revenge game.
14:25
SPEAKER_00: I mean, like I said, it's in Pittsburgh and it's divisional.
14:27
SPEAKER_00: So divisional games, you never really know.
14:30
SPEAKER_00: It can be close like that, or it could be a blow-up.
14:32
SPEAKER_00: It's divisional.
14:33
SPEAKER_00: I don't do a lot of judgment off of divisional games when you see that opponent every year, two times a year.
14:39
SPEAKER_00: Right?
14:39
SPEAKER_00: You don't see any other opponent every year, two times a year, or even every year for that matter.
14:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so yeah, so they have an idea, they know how we play.
14:49
SPEAKER_00: We know how people, you know, like, and that's what I expected to be, and it'll probably be the same type of game later on in the year when they come and see us.
14:57
SPEAKER_00: You know, so you know, I like I say it's it's a tough loss.
15:00
SPEAKER_00: One on the chin, it it definitely sucked.
15:03
SPEAKER_00: Um, but you know, we just gotta get that that fucking and we actually cut the two who fumbled on that fucking yeah, he got cut.
15:12
SPEAKER_00: So he's out of here.
15:15
SPEAKER_00: That's tough, but I mean that was a crucial point.
15:17
SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, you can't, you know, that it's a momentum swing.
15:21
SPEAKER_00: It's just, you know, it's how it is, you know, and our def like I said, our defense once again didn't play bad as other than the rushing, but it's just those two mistakes put Pittsburgh gave them an extra 10 points.
15:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the first half, it it they yeah, yeah, and like and like with special teams as well when it's only there's n not too many people to blame.
15:44
SPEAKER_02: So but um going into another divisional game, uh Colts Texans, yeah, pretty close one.
15:52
SPEAKER_02: Um it was in Indianapolis, I'm pretty sure.
15:56
SPEAKER_02: Or or or did you put all the away teams on the side?
16:00
SPEAKER_02: Or or or did or did you do it like that or no?
16:04
SPEAKER_01: Is is is is that why you switched around that early?
16:13
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
16:14
SPEAKER_00: I think I'd added some I don't know, someone was because this is right, that was in Bears.
16:20
SPEAKER_01: That was in Rio.
16:22
SPEAKER_01: This is in New England, right?
16:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
16:26
SPEAKER_00: This one I was in Commanders, right?
16:28
SPEAKER_00: That was in Washington.
16:30
SPEAKER_00: And then Chargers and Bitcoin.
16:31
SPEAKER_00: So I mean, it was mixed up.
16:32
SPEAKER_00: I'd some of them, yeah.
16:33
SPEAKER_02: So I can't remember where it was, um, to be honest, but uh the Colts, I mean, neither of the offenses really looked that great.
16:42
SPEAKER_02: Dan Jones, um, I mean, Houston's defense played pretty well.
16:45
SPEAKER_02: Kind of what you expect uh uh with the divisional games, kind of like what you were saying, going with that Banco Steelers game.
16:53
SPEAKER_02: Um but the Texans did come down and get that late touchdown and put them up 18-17.
17:00
SPEAKER_02: And then um the Colts, I think probably had like a minute, minute and a half left.
17:05
SPEAKER_02: They came down and got a field goal.
17:06
SPEAKER_02: Kim Schrader, yeah.
17:08
SPEAKER_02: Um so I mean, yeah, I mean close game.
17:13
SPEAKER_02: Um, but uh I mean it's more worrisome for the Texans for sure.
17:18
SPEAKER_02: CJ Stroud, um defense only I think they'll be okay.
17:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, I I think they'll I mean Nico Collins is hurting him.
17:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but there's Saint Dale but how how isn't bad how how long how long can their defense not let up 20 and not win games off season?
17:37
SPEAKER_02: They did it last year.
17:38
SPEAKER_02: I mean they started bad last year.
17:42
SPEAKER_02: How many wins did they end up having?
17:44
SPEAKER_02: 10.
17:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't think.
17:46
SPEAKER_02: They started off two and four or two and five.
17:48
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if they'll get ten wins this year.
17:53
SPEAKER_01: We'll see.
17:54
SPEAKER_01: Depending on the case, depending how much time Nico Collins misses.
17:57
SPEAKER_01: Right, yeah.
17:57
SPEAKER_00: I mean they I said Texas, they also have a different running game as well.
18:07
SPEAKER_00: CJ Stroud is also becoming an issue as well.
18:11
SPEAKER_00: Um much it pains me to say it, but he's becoming that, but because the duty to the line, they're gonna be able to run the ball.
18:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
18:20
SPEAKER_00: Right?
18:20
SPEAKER_02: They haven't since you also just paid for a new running back.
18:28
SPEAKER_00: Two years ago was when they had a decent run game with Joe Mixon.
18:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
18:34
SPEAKER_00: Um and CJ Straud kinda regressed that year as a sophomore year, sophomore slump.
18:40
SPEAKER_00: Um it happens.
18:42
SPEAKER_00: But junior slump, senior slump.
18:44
SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, well you look at well, like I said, the but the line though.
18:48
SPEAKER_00: The line and you look at last year, you look at his weapons, right?
18:53
SPEAKER_00: We go back to I'll go back to this right here.
18:58
SPEAKER_00: That season that um Joe Mixon was playing good, the offense is playing good.
19:06
SPEAKER_00: They had Tank Dale, they had Stefan Diggs, and they had Nico Collins.
19:12
SPEAKER_00: Stefan Diggs scores ACL in week eight or week nine, and then Tate Dale had that nasty injury in that Chiefs game in December.
19:21
SPEAKER_00: Right?
19:22
SPEAKER_00: So that's also with no line.
19:25
SPEAKER_00: So and also Joe Mixon got banged up in that season as well, and didn't, I don't think he f I don't even know if he finished this.
19:33
SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't know if he he missed some games.
19:36
SPEAKER_00: I know that.
19:38
SPEAKER_00: Um, and then the next year after that, mysterious whatever fucking was going whatever's going on last year with Joe Mixon and Houston and and free injury.
19:47
SPEAKER_00: Now he's about to retire.
19:48
SPEAKER_00: He went from you know what I'm saying, uh having a fantastic year in Houston, and then now he had this freak, whatever injury he had in his ankle, didn't play all of last year.
20:01
SPEAKER_00: Texans release him, now he's a free agent.
20:05
SPEAKER_00: Talking about he's probably never gonna play football again.
20:07
SPEAKER_00: So that'll be you know one of the mysterious cases in another, you know, another time is like what happened to Joe Mixon, what the fuck really happened with his foot.
20:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
20:16
SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, that's kind of weird.
20:17
SPEAKER_00: You don't see that at all.
20:19
SPEAKER_02: No.
20:19
SPEAKER_02: So with that, and then I mean it might not even be something.
20:23
SPEAKER_02: I mean, at this point, it might not even be anything with his foot.
20:26
SPEAKER_00: It might be something it's what they're saying that his football he's what I read I read and looked it up because I want to see um and what he had told I guess, you know, uh uh either a former or my bad or or uh uh present or a former Bengals player uh that his football career was over.
20:49
SPEAKER_00: That's what he told him.
20:50
SPEAKER_00: He didn't come out and say anything to the NFL, he didn't come out and you know what I'm saying, say anything officially, but that's what you mean is what somebody had reported and said that you know his NFL career is over.
21:02
SPEAKER_00: So you know, I don't know what happened.
21:05
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if he shot himself in the foot or if he fucking I don't know what could what could happen to you.
21:11
SPEAKER_00: What else could happen to you, bro?
21:14
SPEAKER_02: And where your ankle or your NFL career somebody might have shot him in the foot.
21:18
SPEAKER_00: Right, well I mean, oh yeah, either way, go.
21:20
SPEAKER_00: You know, there's some that he wasn't tough, but anyways, um then that next year after that, you go into last year, you draft Woody Marsh out of USC, offensive line still isn't taken care of, defense is still is fantastic, but you just have Nico Collins.
21:37
SPEAKER_00: There's no other threat.
21:38
SPEAKER_00: And one other threat, the only other threat that kind of became a threat was Jaden Higgins, um, was a rookie last year, I think, out of maybe out of Clemson, I can't remember where he's out of, but he played really well.
21:51
SPEAKER_00: Um and then Did he get did he get hurt too?
21:55
SPEAKER_00: I mean, well, not not last year, but you know at the start of this year.
21:59
SPEAKER_00: This year, Torres A.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: And then Tate Dell still isn't ready to come back, and then now Nico Collins has his hamstring.
22:06
SPEAKER_00: So my thing is like Stroud really doesn't have the they they brought in Key Keyshawn Booty, but I mean he's it's a reason why New England let him go for a bag of chips.
22:16
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
22:17
SPEAKER_00: Because like it's a reason.
22:20
SPEAKER_00: New England's not like I mean they they if they thought that this dude was you know anything worth the future.
22:27
SPEAKER_02: Well they I mean he's playing for Houston, but I'm saying, I mean, yeah, I mean I mean I mean just I mean just with AJ AJ being out and Stefan looking booty cheeks.
22:36
SPEAKER_00: Lots of our fucking Dobbs.
22:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Dobbs.
22:39
SPEAKER_02: That's what I meant.
22:40
SPEAKER_02: But um helmet head.
22:42
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
22:43
SPEAKER_02: Uh one of these next games.
22:46
SPEAKER_02: Or what were you gonna say?
22:48
SPEAKER_00: Um I just you know I just think it's they they gotta eat the head, you know, no receivers, nobody to throw the ball to.
22:54
SPEAKER_00: Um and no line.
22:56
SPEAKER_00: And obviously, if you can't you don't have a line, you can't run the ball.
22:59
SPEAKER_00: And that's what every team wants to do.
23:00
SPEAKER_00: That's what they want to start off with.
23:02
SPEAKER_00: It's is control or dominate the line of scrimmage.
23:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
23:06
SPEAKER_00: And you want to be able to if you're able to run the ball, that opens up everything.
23:10
SPEAKER_00: If you're able to pass the ball, that's fine.
23:13
SPEAKER_00: Eventually, teams are gonna keen in on that.
23:16
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
23:17
SPEAKER_00: Like, and you can't, you want to close how you gonna it's hard to close the game out if you can't run it, but you can throw it all day.
23:23
SPEAKER_00: Eventually, it might be a fucking pass interference that's not called, or whatever it is, a drop or something like that.
23:29
SPEAKER_00: But if you can't run the ball, you have a problem.
23:32
SPEAKER_00: You mean that's just what you mean most teams want to do.
23:35
SPEAKER_00: That's the easiest way to close the game out.
23:37
SPEAKER_00: You get up in an early lead, run that bitch, clock goes out, game over.
23:42
SPEAKER_00: So, you mean they haven't been to run the ball.
23:43
SPEAKER_00: You mean Montgomery had a good game, but that was against the Bills defense up until last week, who didn't really look that great.
23:52
SPEAKER_00: And going into last week, they went against the Chargers' offense who doesn't look that great.
23:57
SPEAKER_00: So I still don't believe in the Bills defense.
24:00
SPEAKER_00: Um, and I I think that's why he had the game he had was against Montgomery because the Bills.
24:06
SPEAKER_00: They don't I mean, Gibbs had a good game.
24:09
SPEAKER_00: Fucking Jared Goff had a good game, and St.
24:12
SPEAKER_00: Brown almost had 200.
24:13
SPEAKER_00: They gave up a lot of yards and some points in that game.
24:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they won the game, but they gave up 31 fucking points.
24:20
SPEAKER_00: So, um yeah.
24:22
SPEAKER_00: Uh but yeah, like moving forward into transition bills and chargers.
24:27
SPEAKER_02: Um Allen's uh first two picks of the year.
24:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah he had been clean through the first three games.
24:36
SPEAKER_02: I was like, you know what?
24:37
SPEAKER_00: That's it's like it's usually around week three, four, five, or six, around that time where Josh, because he all I guess I'm talking about, my Buffalo always I feel like kind of starts off decent or good.
24:50
SPEAKER_00: If not if Josh Allen does.
24:52
SPEAKER_00: Maybe they lose, but Josh Allen plays fucking well.
24:56
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they started off one and oh, two and all last year, um, beat the Ravens in a fucking thriller, and I can't you mean, but he always plays good those first two games.
25:06
SPEAKER_00: He looks like the best quarterback ever known a man.
25:09
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, way he out there fucking playing.
25:11
SPEAKER_00: Running like fucking Superman and running motherfuckers over and chucking 300 passing yards.
25:17
SPEAKER_00: And then those and he starts kind of struggling.
25:20
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, like he didn't play good at all this week.
25:22
SPEAKER_00: Their defense kind of saved him.
25:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and the Chargers kind of similar issue.
25:27
SPEAKER_00: It's kind of shocked.
25:28
SPEAKER_00: It's Texans, it's kind of keeping it.
25:29
SPEAKER_00: They don't have no one to throw the ball to.
25:32
SPEAKER_00: Lad McConkey is not gonna get the fucking job done.
25:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they don't really have anybody else except him.
25:39
SPEAKER_02: They don't really have a good tight end.
25:40
SPEAKER_02: They don't.
25:41
SPEAKER_02: Or I mean, well, because like, bro, with the Texans, at least they have Dalton Schultz.
25:45
SPEAKER_02: That's a deal that's alright, he's a little older tight end, yeah.
25:48
SPEAKER_02: He's a little bit older.
25:49
SPEAKER_02: And he's not the way they're offense, they don't steam him.
25:51
SPEAKER_02: Or no, they just got uh Njoku, didn't they?
25:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah from Cleveland.
25:55
SPEAKER_02: That's not what's up.
25:56
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you need number one.
25:58
SPEAKER_00: Njoku's not bad.
25:59
SPEAKER_00: You need number one.
26:02
SPEAKER_02: Bro, Makaki was number one two years ago.
26:06
SPEAKER_02: For I mean, for the bro, he he had a good year for the Chargers two years.
26:10
SPEAKER_00: I mean, well, yeah, I mean number one in the film.
26:13
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's not a guy you can throw to look at every single time.
26:17
SPEAKER_00: And like that's I don't know.
26:19
SPEAKER_00: I just he's like a a number two.
26:22
SPEAKER_00: Like if they had a true number one, like a dog, then that argument be more, I feel like would be more like more of an argument, right?
26:31
SPEAKER_00: Because then he'd probably be getting the fuck off and people be like, you know what, you know, he should be in such such a place like this, or he's a blah blah blah, and then he gets to a place like that and he does.
26:41
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
26:41
SPEAKER_00: I just feel like he's better one of those players that is better off when another like compliments off another player.
26:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
26:48
SPEAKER_00: Right?
26:48
SPEAKER_00: If you have a dog on that other side, you know what I'm saying, it takes out of detention, but when you have nobody that they're fucking fearing, that you don't you don't put no fear in anybody's heart with Trey Johnson and fucking whoever Quentin Grump Johnson Johnson and Trey, I can't remember his fucking name.
27:07
SPEAKER_00: Uh Trey so but like I'm saying, like you you're not putting they it's okay, they're okay with that.
27:13
SPEAKER_01: If you beat us with that, then fucking so be it.
27:16
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
27:17
SPEAKER_01: But if you're okay with that, then then then so be it.
27:24
SPEAKER_00: But um they don't have any threats.
27:28
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
27:28
SPEAKER_00: So the Bills, they made the Bills defense kind of look good.
27:30
SPEAKER_00: And they don't and I'm Mario and Hampton had you know kind of like a a good year last year, got injured, but you know, he hasn't really looked that good start of this year.
27:42
SPEAKER_00: Right, and so you know I mean, like I said, you know, I I we talked, we said before that that's why you kind of see certain rookies or certain players get off to a good start, because there's no film on them.
27:52
SPEAKER_00: Defenses aren't used to that.
27:54
SPEAKER_00: I remember when fucking the option became or RPO first entered the NFL, you know, because it was a thing in college way before.
28:03
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they're running options and doing that shit like that, read options, quarterback, whatever, like shit like that.
28:09
SPEAKER_00: They weren't doing that shit in the NFL.
28:11
SPEAKER_00: They had been doing that shit in college for years, and then they implemented one of the first teams I ever seen do it was 49ers, Jim Harbaugh with Kaepernick, and it like, you know what I'm saying?
28:23
SPEAKER_00: Like, it took a year, at least two years for those defenses to fucking get a hold of that.
28:28
SPEAKER_00: Like, I mean, you had RG3 was getting off, Kaepernick.
28:32
SPEAKER_00: I mean, any quarterback that was mobile was destroying defenses because they weren't ready for a fucking, like, you didn't know who the fuck with the ball.
28:40
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's just you know, like you're not prepared for that, you're not training for that, you're not watching film for that.
28:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, since one thing it caught, but like when it when it first came, the same thing to Wildcat when they would put a fucking running back in a quarterback spot and had to run, like that shit threw defenses off.
28:57
SPEAKER_00: Even though you knew that it's running back is running, but just the blocking scheme and just how it was, it threw him off.
29:03
SPEAKER_00: And it took the defenses.
29:04
SPEAKER_00: You know, it's the same thing with rookies and shit like that.
29:07
SPEAKER_00: I feel like it's third or fourth, almost fifth years when I start judging you know a player, right?
29:13
SPEAKER_00: The first two, I don't do it because you can have hot starts first couple years, and this, you know, injuries start happening, or this, you know what I'm saying, like you lose a significant player that you had before, and that production drops off, you know what I'm saying?
29:29
SPEAKER_00: And that's fair.
29:30
SPEAKER_00: This is hot, but uh, yeah, um Chargers though, they're in trouble.
29:35
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they they that's kind of crazy when you think about it because the Raiders are fucking 2-0.
29:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Chiefs.
29:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, 3-0.
29:45
SPEAKER_00: Chiefs are fucking 3-0, Broncos 2-1.
29:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
29:49
SPEAKER_00: So, you know what I'm saying?
29:50
SPEAKER_00: Like, they're not beating the last.
29:52
SPEAKER_00: I mean, nah, I I possibly.
29:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, maybe.
29:55
SPEAKER_00: I think I think I think that Raiders should have sizzled out, bro.
29:58
SPEAKER_00: The Raiders, yeah, it'll be one of those things that we'll talk about later in the year.
30:02
SPEAKER_00: But, bro, remember when the Raiders was four and one or five and two or some shit.
30:06
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
30:07
SPEAKER_00: The next thing you know you lost six games.
30:08
SPEAKER_00: There's no way this is gonna keep going.
30:10
SPEAKER_00: I'm just telling you, they don't have the talent.
30:12
SPEAKER_00: They go against the Broncos, I think they're gonna lose.
30:15
SPEAKER_00: They go against the Chiefs, they're gonna lose.
30:17
SPEAKER_00: So I, in my opinion, I just think there's at least three or four losses you gotta count right off rip.
30:22
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
30:23
SPEAKER_00: The Chargers, they got a veteran fucking quarterback and experienced coach.
30:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, so if it's if it's anybody that gets them out of this jam, it's the combination they have.
30:35
SPEAKER_00: And I think the Chargers can still fix it.
30:38
SPEAKER_02: Um I think they will play off the schedule.
30:42
SPEAKER_02: Schedule is definitely very hard over the next six weeks.
30:45
SPEAKER_02: So they're lucky to get one or two wins out of their next six.
30:52
SPEAKER_02: But transition over into um Gibbs masterclass against the Jets.
30:59
SPEAKER_02: Walked all over them boys for a hat trick.
31:02
SPEAKER_02: Um yeah.
31:05
SPEAKER_02: And I needed every single point of it this week in fantasy as well.
31:09
SPEAKER_02: So I was not mad about it at all.
31:11
SPEAKER_02: But um, Lions defense is still question marks for sure.
31:18
SPEAKER_02: Um this Carolina game, Monday night football is gonna be a test for us.
31:23
SPEAKER_02: Oh, Sunday night football, yeah.
31:24
SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm at.
31:28
SPEAKER_02: But it's been nice to see our offense put up 30 points every game as well.
31:33
SPEAKER_02: So um, you definitely know you definitely know what to expect from the offense to a degree.
31:41
SPEAKER_02: Umce it comes once we get it.
31:46
SPEAKER_00: A good no, nothing but a good defense.
31:48
SPEAKER_00: Saints defense ain't really good.
31:50
SPEAKER_00: They've given up almost 30 every game.
31:54
SPEAKER_00: Bills, same thing, and then fucking Jets.
31:58
SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, I will I'm we're true quest we're true tests would be not even this game, because Carolina defense has been rule.
32:05
SPEAKER_00: But the first team y'all play that's so you know, and any but you know, we look at it now, or we play a lot of things.
32:11
SPEAKER_00: I'll probably fuck around and beat New England.
32:12
SPEAKER_00: You know, I had y'all lose in New England the end of the season, that's why I love football.
32:17
SPEAKER_00: Exactly why, because you never fucking know.
32:19
SPEAKER_00: And New England looks like hot dog.
32:22
SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
32:23
SPEAKER_00: So hot dog, but that could be fixed as well.
32:26
SPEAKER_00: You know, AJ Brown will be back soon, so you know, we'll we'll we'll dive in that because they're second at or after, you know, this next game will be after them.
32:36
SPEAKER_00: But uh yeah, Gibbs.
32:39
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he did what uh uh exactly what what he had to do.
32:41
SPEAKER_00: I mean um play good.
32:45
SPEAKER_00: Saying Brown, yeah, the offense, like I said, offense is gonna be fine.
32:48
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, it's just just that defense closing all games.
32:53
SPEAKER_00: Um that's just because it's the second game and they've had to be.
32:59
SPEAKER_02: And we just can't get off the slow starts as well.
33:02
SPEAKER_02: Um just kind of like what we saw in that Buffalo game, kind of shot herself in the foot early, and def and the offense couldn't just couldn't get off the ground to start.
33:13
SPEAKER_02: Um because like the But that offense is just fire.
33:16
SPEAKER_00: You know, I think the offense is playing so good that it's putting pressure on y'all offense.
33:21
SPEAKER_00: And it's not necessarily that y'all had a slow start, it's just y'all had a slow start because of how good their offense was playing, and next thing you know, you blink and it was 21 to fucking zero.
33:34
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
33:35
SPEAKER_00: Because they just were one big play after another.
33:38
SPEAKER_00: But I mean it's just a little different.
33:40
SPEAKER_00: It's changed the the the the play scheme, the the scheming and play calling at that point.
33:45
SPEAKER_00: Because you're not expecting to be down 21 to 0 at the start of the second quarter.
33:49
SPEAKER_02: No.
33:50
SPEAKER_00: Right?
33:50
SPEAKER_00: That changes your game plan.
33:51
SPEAKER_02: And at that, yeah, at that point we can't get our best player in the game.
33:55
SPEAKER_00: So Right, is that another thing, it's like that's if it'll be a mean if the defense kind of would have played a little better or whatever, it would have got Josh Allen off that field, um then it would have and Gibbs could you know different could a different game, but when you're down a 21-0, you know, running the ball every play.
34:15
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
34:16
SPEAKER_00: It's not really it's a waste of time.
34:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
34:19
SPEAKER_00: I mean, but you got Gibbs on a for me, I'm like, I'm sticking to the to the thing.
34:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm gonna be you never know when he can get his never you never know when he can get his chunk players for 20, 25, just get him off the edge.
34:33
SPEAKER_02: Show it again, you know, why he's the best running back in the league.
34:37
SPEAKER_00: And uh also y'all just gotta, you know, make sure y'all get some type of defense or something.
34:44
SPEAKER_00: I mean, like these you don't want these years to be wasted.
34:47
SPEAKER_00: No, definitely.
34:51
SPEAKER_00: Borderline generational talent.
34:53
SPEAKER_00: We'll see, yeah, we'll see later on in his career, right?
34:57
SPEAKER_00: You know, because he could have this four or five years, six and kind of like burnt, but if he's one of those players, you know, like a Saquon or something like that, six, seven, eight years on the line, he's still a fucking threat, then he'd okay, it's a generational talent.
35:10
SPEAKER_00: But he's already borderline at our range, it's his fourth year, right?
35:14
SPEAKER_00: Third or fourth year?
35:16
SPEAKER_01: I think four.
35:18
SPEAKER_01: I think four.
35:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, okay.
35:22
SPEAKER_00: It's fourth.
35:25
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I mean he's you know, already the best running back, arguably was last year, probably the best last year.
35:31
SPEAKER_00: Um, so you know, but like I said, y'all the line is good as defense is as tough as y'all deal with injuries.
35:41
SPEAKER_00: And you know, uh yeah, injuries.
35:45
SPEAKER_00: You know, Aiden Hutchison being out Brian Branch is absolutely killy all.
35:51
SPEAKER_00: That is just destroying y'all on defense right now, bro.
35:56
SPEAKER_00: People don't understand reports.
35:58
SPEAKER_00: That's like a second linebacker.
36:00
SPEAKER_00: At least he's gonna be back.
36:01
SPEAKER_02: When you have at some point this year.
36:04
SPEAKER_00: That's like, you know, yeah, no, no, no, no, I'm saying, yeah, but I'm saying just kill y'all right now.
36:07
SPEAKER_00: Like, that's you know, taking Kyle Hamilton off the Ravens.
36:11
SPEAKER_00: You know, like he's every fucking work.
36:14
SPEAKER_00: You know, if he play he lines up in a fucking corner, he'll line up as a safety, he'll line up as, you know, I mean, like we that's like a fucking second quarterback, or like when you don't have that good linebacker, a second middle good linebacker, another, you know what I'm saying?
36:29
SPEAKER_00: Because they see the shit from, you know, they look and okay, that's you know, like that's a good safety is kind of everywhere.
36:34
SPEAKER_00: They control the field, they're they do a little bit of everything.
36:37
SPEAKER_00: You'll see him fucking rush in for the sack, they'll line up and s and coverage, they'll fucking play in the slot, they'll I mean they do every goddamn thing.
36:45
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, Brian Branch, right off work, you know, for me, he showed his he's just as important to me as almost as Gibbs is.
36:55
SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna lie to you, bro.
36:57
SPEAKER_00: You I mean, like, I think if y'all had Montgomery and not Gibbs, the offense obviously wouldn't be better, but y'all offense would still be relatively okay.
37:08
SPEAKER_00: If you have Montgomery, because y'all line is disgusting.
37:11
SPEAKER_00: Y'all have a good line, y'all had the best line for two, three years before those two players left.
37:17
SPEAKER_00: But y'all still have a top five, top ten line.
37:20
SPEAKER_00: It just took a little adjusting with all Ben Johnson being there, but you see the offense is just fine.
37:25
SPEAKER_02: Bro, Gibbs definitely has way more explosive plays than Montgomery, though.
37:29
SPEAKER_00: Right, he doesn't know what I'm saying.
37:31
SPEAKER_00: He does.
37:31
SPEAKER_00: I mean he's got way more speed.
37:33
SPEAKER_02: He's got way more speed.
37:34
SPEAKER_00: Y'all have given up th almost 30 plus every game.
37:39
SPEAKER_00: That's what I'm saying.
37:41
SPEAKER_00: That's like that's where that's what I'm saying against the Jets and the Saints.
37:44
SPEAKER_00: If Valen told you that in the beginning of the season, Bills, you buy, okay, I can see that.
37:49
SPEAKER_00: But this, if I'm like, if I told you how the Saints, Bills, and Jets, y'all defense is averaging 30 points a game or giving up 30 points, you'd be like, bro, you fucking crazy, bro.
37:59
SPEAKER_00: No way in the fuck we giving up 25-30 to the Saints and the fucking Jets, bro.
38:04
SPEAKER_00: Am I right or am I wrong?
38:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I would definitely would not have to.
38:07
SPEAKER_00: You'd have been like, you'd have been cussing me out.
38:10
SPEAKER_02: You'd have been like, bro, you fuck, bro, get the like, so that's what but we only we we only lost to the Bills, though, and that's what I wouldn't be.
38:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but I'm saying, but defense is worrisome though, because you've only put you the Saints, we'll see.
38:25
SPEAKER_00: That we'll we will see if they fizzle out or what happens with the Saints.
38:29
SPEAKER_00: I kind of believe in the Saints more than I do the Raiders, even though the Raiders won.
38:34
SPEAKER_00: This week, I still kind of believe I still have more little more faith in the Saints, because I just think that you know that Kirk Cousins is old, man.
38:45
SPEAKER_02: And like I be saying, man, like at the end of the game, bro.
38:48
SPEAKER_02: Listen, I'm gonna tell you something.
38:52
SPEAKER_00: One thing that stuck out to me the other day that I was watching, and you know, B was like, damn, bro's not sitting down, he's locked into the game, whatever.
39:00
SPEAKER_00: But every time when Chris Connor, when they brought up, when they showed Stafford and they had that little circle, every time they moved him off that line, off that circle, it was trouble.
39:13
SPEAKER_00: Right?
39:14
SPEAKER_00: Every time that the Denver is gonna be able to get any little bit of pressure on Stafford where he was uncomfortable, able to have to move it, it didn't look good.
39:24
SPEAKER_00: To me, Kirk has the same, you got his dude is 40 years old, bro.
39:28
SPEAKER_00: Right?
39:29
SPEAKER_00: They've played the Dolphins, they've played the Saints, and they played the Chargers.
39:34
SPEAKER_00: Okay?
39:35
SPEAKER_00: I want you to think, just replay that back in your mind.
39:38
SPEAKER_00: Right?
39:38
SPEAKER_00: The only game out of those, you'd be like, in the beginning of the season, you'd be like, alright, it's the Chargers.
39:44
SPEAKER_00: You'd be like, I expect him to kind of lose.
39:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
39:47
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
39:48
SPEAKER_00: But the Dolphins, we knew the Dolphins was was done for going in season.
39:53
SPEAKER_00: Okay, but right, I'm just but I'm just saying, bro, like and the Saints had looked good.
39:59
SPEAKER_00: They ain't played a good team yet.
40:02
SPEAKER_00: Who have they the Saints are okay, but they're not a good team.
40:06
SPEAKER_00: You said they look good, though.
40:08
SPEAKER_00: They're not a good team.
40:09
SPEAKER_00: I said they look good.
40:10
SPEAKER_00: They top five, they're not top five NFC teams.
40:12
SPEAKER_00: You're not hearing me.
40:13
SPEAKER_00: I said they looked they look okay.
40:15
SPEAKER_00: Their defense don't look good at all.
40:17
SPEAKER_00: What if they I mean they're all Tyler Shuck and their offense has looked good.
40:22
SPEAKER_00: Tyler Shuck has.
40:24
SPEAKER_00: When you think of the Saints, a lot of them.
40:26
SPEAKER_00: Okay, their offense.
40:27
SPEAKER_00: I just said Tyler Shuck and their offense.
40:30
SPEAKER_01: The defense ain't look good.
40:32
SPEAKER_01: They haven't looked good.
40:34
SPEAKER_01: The Rams ain't look good.
40:36
SPEAKER_01: They haven't.
40:37
SPEAKER_00: Let's be honest.
40:39
SPEAKER_00: On paper, sure.
40:41
SPEAKER_00: But what have they done?
40:42
SPEAKER_00: Nothing.
40:43
SPEAKER_00: They won against a team that lost their quarterback in the first fucking quarter.
40:47
SPEAKER_00: So, like I'm saying, bro, I just, you know.
40:52
SPEAKER_00: Rams haven't looked great, right?
40:53
SPEAKER_00: They haven't looked good at all.
40:56
SPEAKER_00: They look like they look like they look like the worst team in that division.
41:02
SPEAKER_00: If I'm gonna be honest with you, right?
41:04
SPEAKER_02: Who would think they play week two?
41:06
SPEAKER_00: They played the Giants.
41:07
SPEAKER_00: They beat the Giants, but Jackson Dark was Jackson Dark was out in the first quarter.
41:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I forgot.
41:12
SPEAKER_00: That changes every fucking thing.
41:14
SPEAKER_00: Um then you look at yeah, Arizona played a hell of a game and made it a fight against San Francisco.
41:22
SPEAKER_00: They've been in every game that they've played.
41:24
SPEAKER_00: Arizona is not a fucking team that you're finna go in there and think that you've been to pop them niggas 30 to 6.
41:30
SPEAKER_00: That's not gonna happen.
41:31
SPEAKER_00: Right?
41:32
SPEAKER_00: So, you know what I'm saying?
41:34
SPEAKER_00: Arizona against that.
41:36
SPEAKER_00: You mean like you look at the Rams ain't look good at all.
41:38
SPEAKER_00: They got smacked against 49ers, they blew a 16-point lead against Denver, and they beat the Giants, who lost their quarterback and lost the receiver in the first quarter.
41:52
SPEAKER_00: Bro, came back, but game was over at that point.
41:55
SPEAKER_02: But that was those.
41:55
SPEAKER_02: There's no hope.
41:56
SPEAKER_02: That was a scatterboot and play.
41:57
SPEAKER_02: So Devontae going for 200 yards.
41:59
SPEAKER_02: Right, but Devontae went off this past week.
42:02
SPEAKER_02: And what happened?
42:03
SPEAKER_02: That they lost.
42:04
SPEAKER_02: So I mean it was their defense also choked.
42:08
SPEAKER_02: But it was also Stafford also throwing that.
42:12
SPEAKER_02: But it's the pressure.
42:13
SPEAKER_02: That picks that pick six was big.
42:14
SPEAKER_02: It was Denver's pressure.
42:15
SPEAKER_02: It was Denver's defense.
42:16
SPEAKER_00: They wanna get a good defense.
42:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
42:18
SPEAKER_00: We haven't seen the Raiders go against a good defense.
42:21
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're having seen that.
42:22
SPEAKER_00: Because also, yeah, I mean, also in the first.
42:25
SPEAKER_00: We will see that because I'm pretty sure they play the Chiefs this week.
42:29
SPEAKER_00: I don't think they're gonna win.
42:30
SPEAKER_00: No, it'll probably be 7-10 at halftime, Chiefs up.
42:34
SPEAKER_00: They might even be losing, but the final score, 27 to 10.
42:38
SPEAKER_00: I just, you mean I just I the Raiders, it's gonna fizzle out.
42:44
SPEAKER_00: Um the Lions and the Jets, uh that that, you know, going back to that, I mean, it just the Lions, the offense, the offense is gonna be there.
42:55
SPEAKER_00: Um, but they just the defense, Brian Branch, they need him very bad.
43:00
SPEAKER_00: It's you're gonna see a extraordinary, you're gonna see a remarkable difference when he comes.
43:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, when he comes back.
43:06
SPEAKER_00: You're gonna see a difference, bro.
43:07
SPEAKER_00: Unless he's not, unless he's not like ready or like health-wise, but if he's 100% ready to go, that's the best safety.
43:15
SPEAKER_00: Arguably, it'd be him and Kyle Hamilton.
43:18
SPEAKER_00: I would, you know, I would toss up.
43:19
SPEAKER_00: And you know, you could you could you could fucking you know go trick or chain and pick one, as they say, for candy and shit.
43:27
SPEAKER_00: Either one to go, you're good.
43:28
SPEAKER_00: You pick either one of those two, you're pretty good.
43:31
SPEAKER_00: Right?
43:31
SPEAKER_00: You you're okay with either one.
43:33
SPEAKER_00: Although I say Kyle Hamilton is a little bit better in coverage, but Brian Branch is a better tackler and more of a hitter.
43:44
SPEAKER_00: Like he's that motherfucker lay wood.
43:46
SPEAKER_00: Brian Branch lays wood.
43:48
SPEAKER_00: Kyle Hamilton does two, but Kyle Hamilton is just more of like I see he they don't they don't really blitz that much with Kyle Hamilton as much as I feel like Detroit does with Brian Branch, or brings him down.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: They kind of leave Kyle Hamilton a little bit more out.
44:03
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, like I say, either way it goes.
44:05
SPEAKER_00: Either way you want to slice it, you know what I'm saying?
44:08
SPEAKER_00: You can have either one of those two.
44:10
SPEAKER_00: But uh yeah, um Hawks.
44:13
SPEAKER_00: Hawks and Skins, that was you know a good game.
44:16
SPEAKER_00: Sam Darner first came back, four touchdowns, two interceptions.
44:21
SPEAKER_02: I mean the the Redskins defense, or no, not Redskins, I'm tripping, the Commander's defense.
44:27
SPEAKER_02: Sorry, I put Redskins.
44:29
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
44:31
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
44:32
SPEAKER_02: It's basically somebody, yeah.
44:33
SPEAKER_02: They don't know.
44:35
SPEAKER_02: What the fuck?
44:36
SPEAKER_02: Peter Griffin called the fucking goddamn Mariota and the fucker.
44:43
SPEAKER_02: What did he say, dude?
44:44
SPEAKER_02: God damn it, I can't remember now.
44:47
SPEAKER_01: Mariota and the fucking cook.
44:50
SPEAKER_00: It wasn't commanders.
44:53
SPEAKER_00: Ohmies.
44:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I was like, yeah, commies.
44:55
SPEAKER_00: It was somewhat a state, but I know it wasn't commanders.
44:59
SPEAKER_00: Mariota and the commies, yeah, that's funny as hell.
45:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, they came on, they blew up defense.
45:07
SPEAKER_02: I mean, the commanders defense did make some some big plays though, but the I mean, kind of kind of like you were expecting, the Seahawks kept fighting back, kept fighting back, made the right plays they need to, but then surprisingly, I mean surprisingly, the commanders kept fighting back as well.
45:25
SPEAKER_00: So I didn't see um I see the little highlights part.
45:30
SPEAKER_00: It was like uh a third and nine where Washington converted, and then like a third or eight, you were watching the converting, and eventually they kicked the field goal or whatever, or need or whatever it was.
45:44
SPEAKER_00: I think I think they need the ball.
45:46
SPEAKER_00: Um, but it's just kind of you know crazy and just like you know different because like you don't see that with that Seattle defense.
45:56
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
45:57
SPEAKER_00: Like, number one, giving up, you know, 30 points unless it's to like a fucking high-powered offense, like you know, Lash or Rams and shit, kind of put 30 up on them a couple times.
46:06
SPEAKER_00: But that was the Rams, like they had Puka and Avante, and their offense is is lethal when they're right.
46:14
SPEAKER_01: But um Yeah, it was just kind of crazy, like seeing that um their defense not getting those stops, and like and one of them was a run.
46:28
SPEAKER_00: Definitely third and nine, they did a fucking handoff, I think either White or Krosky Merritt and ran the ball for like 12 yards.
46:37
SPEAKER_00: Like, you don't see that often with that deep Seattle defense, so that's kind of what surprised me the most.
46:42
SPEAKER_00: Because Mariota played clean, he played a clean game.
46:46
SPEAKER_00: Like, right, he didn't play like a great game, wasn't like how Chase Daniels fucking played.
46:53
SPEAKER_00: Wasn't like how Chase Daniels played in that Monday night game, but he played a clean game.
46:59
SPEAKER_00: He didn't turn the ball over, you know what I'm saying?
47:01
SPEAKER_00: He played a clean game, and that was kind of also the difference that Sam Darnold had two picks, right?
47:06
SPEAKER_00: Mariota didn't turn the ball over, Sam Darnold had two picks.
47:10
SPEAKER_00: Um JSN got off.
47:12
SPEAKER_00: That was, you know, that's just it's not even news anymore, right?
47:16
SPEAKER_00: Um, so and also and one thing I've noticed is Seattle was kind of what may be a problem with them, as you see until Charbonnet comes back, whenever that is, if he's right, is they can't run the ball right now.
47:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that's and that that's a New England game, they didn't run the ball well in that Arizona game, they didn't run the ball well, and then this game, but they didn't run the ball well.
47:43
SPEAKER_00: So um they haven't, and that's what see that's that's their staple.
47:48
SPEAKER_00: Like that's they had, you know, they had that most of the season that until the playoffs, they had that that fucking dual threat last year.
47:55
SPEAKER_00: They had K-9 and Charbonnet.
47:57
SPEAKER_00: You had lightning and thunder, like what I'm saying.
48:00
SPEAKER_00: Similar to fucking you guys with Montgomery and and the Gibbs, they had that same one-two combo.
48:06
SPEAKER_00: Where they run K9 up until fucking he's from Notre Dame, first round pick.
48:10
SPEAKER_00: He's a rookie this year?
48:11
SPEAKER_02: He's a rookie.
48:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so that's what I'm saying.
48:13
SPEAKER_00: They're just kind of putting all their eggs in the basket with him.
48:16
SPEAKER_00: Well, they have I mean, yeah, I mean, well, they knew that, so that's why they went and got him because they knew Charbonnet wasn't gonna be ready anytime soon.
48:24
SPEAKER_00: Because he tore his ACO like the end of last year, like the first.
48:28
SPEAKER_00: So he's probably not gonna be ready until like maybe November, December, probably.
48:33
SPEAKER_00: Who knows?
48:34
SPEAKER_00: Um, but uh Yeah, bro, that's that's uh I think that's big um for them is they can't run the ball.
48:43
SPEAKER_00: And eventually, you know, teams just start fucking double teaming JSN or whatever.
48:49
SPEAKER_00: Like, I mean, and we'll see you'll see that kind of become an issue last year is like or be but it'd be you as this year goes on, you'll see that become an issue until maybe Charbonnet or or I don't know, whatever, something start happening scheme wise, or whatever, so they're gonna run the ball better.
49:08
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, um that was troublesome for them.
49:12
SPEAKER_00: And that game was kind of the most thing I got out of that is that and defense not playing well.
49:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, that's something that I didn't I didn't really think of that much thinking about the Seahawks, just them not really having the running game like that, getting rid of Walker and not having Sharp in there.
49:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Cooper Cup and fucking uh Shaheed as your two or three.
49:35
SPEAKER_00: Cooper Cup is fucking three or four or three.
49:37
SPEAKER_00: I mean he's done.
49:38
SPEAKER_00: Like not done, but he's I mean, he's not really a threat anymore.
49:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh I mean you know, so you know JSN is good for seven, eight catches a game.
49:47
SPEAKER_00: And eventually defenses are unless he's just that nasty, like eventually defenses are gonna be like, alright, we just gotta take this motherfucker out of the game and we're good.
49:59
SPEAKER_01: You know, but you know, like I said, you know, he's he's given fucking seven to ten catches a game.
50:07
SPEAKER_01: 88 to 130 every game.
50:10
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's just guaranteed.
50:12
SPEAKER_00: It's been like 13, 14 straight games.
50:15
SPEAKER_00: But he's done that, bro.
50:16
SPEAKER_00: So you know what I'm saying.
50:17
SPEAKER_00: And that's why like, you know, in my opinion, he might not be a fucking in the league.
50:23
SPEAKER_00: You know, even you mean, you know what I'm saying?
50:25
SPEAKER_00: Lads, uh, in my opinion, bro.
50:28
SPEAKER_02: I mean, just let he's keeping it.
50:29
SPEAKER_02: He's fucked over, I mean, just over over the last 15 games.
50:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I'm bro, even not even that, dude.
50:36
SPEAKER_02: Like, even though the fact that he won a Super Bowl and that span this was right, yeah.
50:41
SPEAKER_00: His rookie year, bro, he played like the first half of the season, he didn't he didn't really get in the game that much.
50:47
SPEAKER_00: He didn't play.
50:48
SPEAKER_00: But towards the second half of the season, bro, um, I think I I don't know if I had JS.
50:56
SPEAKER_00: Somebody in fantasy or in in the breaking portal of fantasy had JSN.
51:00
SPEAKER_00: But I just noticed that every game from like week like 10, 11, 12, he was like it's going from 10 points to 12 points to 15.
51:08
SPEAKER_00: It's like every game he was getting consistently 10 to 15 points a game.
51:13
unknown: Uh huh.
51:13
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, okay.
51:14
SPEAKER_00: And then last year, he just picked up where he left off at the end of his rookie year and just went crazy all of last year.
51:22
unknown: Uh-huh.
51:22
SPEAKER_00: And you know what I'm saying?
51:23
SPEAKER_00: Like won the Super Bowl.
51:24
SPEAKER_00: Right.
51:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
51:25
SPEAKER_00: And then just give me in the same of like so I mean it's realistically, bro, been like a year, uh, almost two years, really, of him just like go like every fucking game.
51:34
unknown: Yeah.
51:35
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
51:35
SPEAKER_00: I can't tell you the last time he's had a bad game.
51:38
SPEAKER_00: Or a game when you look, he's three catches for 30 yards.
51:41
SPEAKER_00: Two catches.
51:42
SPEAKER_00: You know, we say I've seen that from Chase, I've seen it from CeeDee Lamb, I've seen it from Puka, I've seen it from saying I can't tell you the last time I've looked on a stat line and seen JSN have a bad game.
51:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
51:56
SPEAKER_00: Somehow this dude's open every fucking time.
51:59
SPEAKER_00: But, you know, moving on to the next one, which is kind of the honestly, the the surprise, maybe the surprise, I don't know.
52:08
SPEAKER_00: Second honest type for the surprise of the week, I guess.
52:11
SPEAKER_00: It was just tough that in the Monday night Jags and pass.
52:15
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I just did not expect the Monday night game Patriots.
52:21
SPEAKER_00: That's fucking wild, bro.
52:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
52:24
SPEAKER_00: What?
52:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
52:26
SPEAKER_00: And that was in New England.
52:28
SPEAKER_00: I'm pretty sure.
52:29
SPEAKER_00: Was that let me double check?
52:30
SPEAKER_02: It was in New England.
52:31
SPEAKER_01: Bro, that what?
52:34
SPEAKER_01: Are you kidding me?
52:36
SPEAKER_01: That's fucking wild, bro.
52:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
52:40
SPEAKER_00: What?
52:40
SPEAKER_00: And Drake made two touchdowns, six interceptions, I think, on the season?
52:46
SPEAKER_00: Through the first three fucking games.
52:48
SPEAKER_00: This is the dude I vouched for last year, son.
52:51
SPEAKER_00: I said this nigga's name on the podcast, man.
52:55
SPEAKER_00: I fucking said I believe in this nigga.
52:57
SPEAKER_00: You did?
52:58
SPEAKER_00: I said, I did it.
52:59
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I was like, bro, I, you know, I fuck with Drake Bay.
53:02
SPEAKER_00: I think this nigga solid.
53:03
SPEAKER_00: Da da da.
53:04
SPEAKER_00: I know they got a case schedule, but god damn.
53:09
SPEAKER_00: This nigga just not like, bro.
53:11
SPEAKER_00: Oh my God.
53:13
SPEAKER_00: I get it.
53:14
SPEAKER_00: I mean, but also, you do got a trash ass receiver in Romeo Dobbs, and who I tried to tell last year.
53:20
SPEAKER_00: You know, people try, well, it's a green bay when I'm like, they don't got no fucking receivers and hasn't had any since Jordan or since Jordan Love has been there and had no fucking number one, close to number one.
53:32
SPEAKER_00: You're fucking with Watson, and Watson is a fucking bump.
53:36
SPEAKER_00: Hey, Christian Watson's a bump.
53:38
SPEAKER_00: Alright?
53:38
SPEAKER_00: I guarantee you going to free agent wired, he's probably available.
53:42
SPEAKER_00: He's a fucking bump.
53:43
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
53:44
SPEAKER_00: There's nobody Jaden Reed is decent, but he just can't stay healthy to save his fucking life.
53:51
SPEAKER_00: So, and then you Romeo Dobbs didn't really do shit last year.
53:56
SPEAKER_00: I don't care.
53:56
SPEAKER_00: I don't know how the hell he was able to finesse the contract that he got out of fucking New England.
54:01
SPEAKER_00: That's a highway robbery if I ain't never seen one in my goddamn life.
54:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, not right year last year.
54:07
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
54:08
SPEAKER_00: He had like 67 catches.
54:11
SPEAKER_00: How many drops he had?
54:13
SPEAKER_00: A lot.
54:14
SPEAKER_00: That's what I'm saying.
54:15
SPEAKER_00: He's not, bro.
54:16
SPEAKER_00: I trust me.
54:16
SPEAKER_00: And I had him on my fantasy team for a short time last year.
54:19
SPEAKER_00: This nigga did nothing.
54:20
SPEAKER_00: He does nothing.
54:21
SPEAKER_00: I was hoping this year when I picked him up because I drafted him.
54:24
SPEAKER_00: I was hoping maybe the new team and AJ Brown getting hurt.
54:29
SPEAKER_00: This nigga put up zero against the app.
54:32
SPEAKER_00: AJ Brown got hurt in the first, second quarter, still put up zero.
54:37
SPEAKER_00: Nothing.
54:37
SPEAKER_00: So I was just like, bro, that means you didn't.
54:39
SPEAKER_00: That's just a tell.
54:41
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you did nothing today in football at all.
54:44
SPEAKER_00: Nigga, you put up zero, you did nothing.
54:46
SPEAKER_00: So I just, bro, I that's kind of surprising me.
54:50
SPEAKER_02: And he threw two picks, too.
54:52
SPEAKER_00: Right, that's what, yeah, exactly.
54:53
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he's just been like careless with the football.
54:56
SPEAKER_00: That's one thing that he is kind of showing like his like North Carolina side.
55:01
SPEAKER_00: But that's where he came out of it.
55:02
SPEAKER_02: Jack's defense is good as well, though.
55:05
SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna lie.
55:06
SPEAKER_02: Because I have them on fantasy as well.
55:09
SPEAKER_02: I mean they are.
55:09
SPEAKER_02: And they they well, so I think so let me let me I think they got 12, 3, and then 15 against the Jackson.
55:16
SPEAKER_02: Okay, let's face this.
55:17
SPEAKER_00: But see, when also, bro, for me, when that's I kind of like break down, I'm I think, but I'm like, also, who do they play?
55:26
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, okay, I go back and I say, all right, they destroyed Cleveland.
55:30
SPEAKER_00: Their offense has been okay, they're two and one, but their offense ain't really did nothing.
55:36
SPEAKER_00: Their defense has been actually really good this year, minus play good.
55:42
SPEAKER_00: No, the Sean has played good.
55:43
SPEAKER_00: The Sean looked like what you I mean, the shit they talk about.
55:49
SPEAKER_00: Right, yeah, he's played yet.
55:50
SPEAKER_00: It's just a positive.
55:51
SPEAKER_00: But their defense it's played, the offense has played good enough for them to win.
55:55
SPEAKER_00: But it hasn't played good in my mind.
55:58
SPEAKER_00: Right?
55:58
SPEAKER_00: It's not good enough to win and being good is two different things.
56:02
SPEAKER_00: The defense has played good against the Buccaneers, but they also played against you know Carolina.
56:08
SPEAKER_02: I forgot they beat the Bucs.
56:09
SPEAKER_00: Right, so but they're on three.
56:11
SPEAKER_00: So um But it's still bigger, Mayfield's offense.
56:15
SPEAKER_02: Right, yeah.
56:16
SPEAKER_00: And then they played against and then I'm like, okay, they played against New England, and New England um didn't look that good against Pittsburgh.
56:23
SPEAKER_00: They went 21-10, I believe.
56:25
SPEAKER_00: They didn't look that good against Pittsburgh, they didn't look that good against Seattle.
56:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, so I'm like, okay, and then they played um Denver, right?
56:35
SPEAKER_00: And Denver tends to get off to a slow start every fucking week.
56:39
SPEAKER_00: Didn't play well against the Chiefs at all.
56:43
SPEAKER_00: Defense kind of got you know manhandled in the trenches.
56:46
SPEAKER_00: K9 did what he wanted.
56:48
SPEAKER_00: Um second week, they played better, a lot better, against the Jags.
56:54
SPEAKER_00: Um, and then this week we got in the hole again against the Rams.
56:59
SPEAKER_00: They were able to kill.
57:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but you can't rely on that's the I mean well I mean well the difference between the Chiefs game and the Rams game is the Chiefs were able to turn those red zone trips into touchdowns most most times.
57:16
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, and they didn't turn the ball over.
57:18
SPEAKER_00: I think Mahomes threw one pick, and that was it.
57:21
SPEAKER_02: He threw one pick.
57:21
SPEAKER_02: And that was it.
57:22
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
57:22
SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, it's the only uh the the Stafford threw one only one pick or something.
57:27
SPEAKER_00: One?
57:27
SPEAKER_02: I think so.
57:29
SPEAKER_01: I'm pretty sure it was just the one pick six.
57:32
SPEAKER_01: He threw another one at the end of the game.
57:35
SPEAKER_01: Remember?
57:36
SPEAKER_00: He was throwing it in the red zone, weren't they, B?
57:38
SPEAKER_00: Remember the end of the game, the Rams Brown didn't Stafford throw another pick?
57:42
SPEAKER_00: Oh, he did throw a two pick.
57:43
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he did, yeah, he did, yeah.
57:44
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I'm sure.
57:45
SPEAKER_00: That's what I'm saying.
57:46
SPEAKER_00: He they had two picks.
57:47
SPEAKER_00: Uh Bo Nix, I don't think he didn't throw a pick.
57:49
SPEAKER_00: Did he throw a pick in this game?
57:51
SPEAKER_00: He did, didn't he?
57:52
SPEAKER_00: He didn't.
57:52
SPEAKER_00: Okay, he threw one.
57:54
unknown: I'm pretty sure.
57:54
SPEAKER_00: Okay, yeah.
57:55
SPEAKER_00: But like I said, but what I'm saying is like the defense, Denver's defense is starting to wake up, is what I'm saying.
58:03
SPEAKER_00: Like, that is another reason why, you know, they they show, you know, I mean, that that fucking that Chiefs game was a humbling moment for them and a wake-up call for them.
58:12
SPEAKER_00: And not to mention they're missing two players.
58:15
SPEAKER_00: One of them is on the NFL zemp list, so I don't know when he's coming back, and the other dude is injured.
58:21
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but if they are able to get those two guys back, that defense will really turn back to how it was.
58:27
SPEAKER_00: Um, but that's what I'm saying.
58:29
SPEAKER_00: I saw it, but their offense still always starts slow.
58:31
SPEAKER_00: So that's the only thing with the Jags, is like their offense is of course to be reckoned with the defense.
58:36
SPEAKER_00: Um, I guess we'll see this week against Cincinnati.
58:39
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think that'll game be a shootout.
58:41
SPEAKER_00: I mean, um it's in it's in Cincinnati.
58:44
SPEAKER_00: Uh both defenses.
58:46
SPEAKER_02: Um we'll see, we'll see if you guys can get back to the way that you guys were playing the first few weeks.
58:52
SPEAKER_00: Defense because actually, I'm sorry.
58:56
SPEAKER_00: My bad.
58:56
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, D Sorry.
58:58
SPEAKER_00: You know, uh D D Lawrence and all them boys.
59:01
SPEAKER_00: I apologize.
59:03
SPEAKER_00: Uh it's a special team.
59:06
SPEAKER_00: Special, yeah, sexy decks.
59:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
59:08
SPEAKER_00: Special teams is what it is.
59:10
SPEAKER_00: If special teams can clean that up, we'll be fine.
59:13
SPEAKER_00: I expect the offense to do what it did exactly this week.
59:17
SPEAKER_00: Um, I expect Burrow to play as well as he did this past week against Pittsburgh.
59:23
SPEAKER_00: Play phenomenal, other than you mean a fumble when he got hit, but he was trying to throw the ball out because he felt the fumble.
59:30
SPEAKER_00: But I mean, it happens.
59:31
SPEAKER_00: But other than that, he played uh a phenomenal game.
59:35
SPEAKER_00: Three touchdowns, almost 300 yards, 28.
59:38
SPEAKER_00: He he that's Burrowis.
59:40
SPEAKER_02: And this is actually when I expected to wake up, but um, I don't think we'll get a cover the rest, but I guess jump into Ravens and Cowboys or we can just add like another few minutes on and just kind of do a just do a quick recap of these games.
1:00:01
SPEAKER_02: I mean, this game was a shootout.
1:00:03
SPEAKER_02: Um me and I mean both offenses uh showed out for sure.
1:00:09
SPEAKER_02: Um I wasn't I wasn't really able to watch a ton of this game to be honest.
1:00:15
SPEAKER_02: When our shift started, because it was when we were at work.
1:00:18
SPEAKER_00: Every time I looked up, it was like back and forth.
1:00:22
SPEAKER_00: Like it was like, you know what I mean?
1:00:23
SPEAKER_00: Like that was I felt like it was a good game.
1:00:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:00:26
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
1:00:27
SPEAKER_00: The ending was good.
1:00:28
SPEAKER_00: That was kind of crazy at the end that fucking catches Zay Flowers had, I don't know how your defense lets that happen.
1:00:36
SPEAKER_00: Like when you know that they're trying to go, they have a timeout left.
1:00:40
SPEAKER_00: They, you know what I'm saying?
1:00:41
SPEAKER_00: Like, you know they're gonna try to go in the middle of the field.
1:00:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:00:45
SPEAKER_00: When you're at the 30, 35 yard line.
1:00:47
SPEAKER_00: You know that.
1:00:48
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
1:00:49
SPEAKER_00: Like they don't have if they have no timeouts, that's different.
1:00:51
SPEAKER_00: But if you have a timeout and you got 20, whatever, 30 seconds left, you know they're gonna take a shot in the middle field.
1:00:57
SPEAKER_00: He was practically wide the fuck open.
1:01:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:01:00
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
1:01:01
SPEAKER_02: Like that was kind of crazy.
1:01:03
SPEAKER_02: But are the Cowboys 0-3?
1:01:05
SPEAKER_01: Or no, they won against um last week.
1:01:10
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
1:01:11
SPEAKER_01: Who the fuck are they play Washington?
1:01:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:01:16
SPEAKER_02: So they're one and two.
1:01:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, they beat Washington.
1:01:18
SPEAKER_02: And they could beating the one.
1:01:21
SPEAKER_02: And then the Ravens are two-and-one as well.
1:01:24
SPEAKER_02: Or the Ravens are two and one.
1:01:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
1:01:26
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:01:27
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so just kinda gotta try and do these a little bit quicker.
1:01:31
SPEAKER_02: So I'm just gonna go.
1:01:33
SPEAKER_02: I mean, we talked about that Broncos Rams game a little bit already, but that was one that we were able to catch most of.
1:01:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, it was a 16-0 game at halftime.
1:01:46
SPEAKER_02: And Broncos do what they do.
1:01:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I mean, also a big thing was the Rams got down into the red zone th um four times, I think, and we're only able to get one touchdown, and then three field goals, right?
1:02:02
SPEAKER_02: So I think that was also or wait yeah, that may yeah, that's the math, right?
1:02:08
SPEAKER_02: 10 or no.
1:02:11
SPEAKER_02: 10, 13, 16, yeah, 10, 13, 16.
1:02:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
1:02:14
SPEAKER_02: So so um if they would able to if they were able to get like even one or two more touch, like if it was 24, 24-0, like, I mean, that's definitely that's definitely a different different ball game at that point, but still the fact that the Broncos were able to come back and that uh yeah, because I mean the fact they made a 16-16 within two drives, just kind of came right back, tied it up, um, definitely gave a lot of momentum to the defense and just the crowd as well being at home.
1:02:48
SPEAKER_02: Um, the crowd was definitely able to get really into it.
1:02:52
SPEAKER_02: Um, even though Bo didn't have his best game and still hasn't looked to how he has last year, but still has had moments though.
1:03:01
SPEAKER_02: Still won one of the game with that rushing touchdown.
1:03:04
SPEAKER_02: So he looked like Bo to me.
1:03:08
SPEAKER_02: I mean wait until the last minute to get going.
1:03:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's just that's what that's what he's done since he's been in Denver, honestly.
1:03:16
SPEAKER_00: But he's clutch.
1:03:16
SPEAKER_00: That's I mean, that's one thing is that shows he's got that clutch gene in his ass.
1:03:21
SPEAKER_00: I tell you what, I'd rather have a clutch quarterback than whatever, it don't matter.
1:03:25
SPEAKER_00: Give me a clutch quarterback.
1:03:27
SPEAKER_00: I want somebody who at the end of the game, this nigga cold blood thinks.
1:03:31
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
1:03:32
SPEAKER_00: He's cold blood.
1:03:33
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
1:03:33
SPEAKER_00: You know, you can't ever count Denver out.
1:03:35
SPEAKER_00: You can't count Bo Knicks out no matter what the fuck is going on, they showed it again.
1:03:39
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but surprising game of the week for me.
1:03:43
unknown: Woo!
1:03:45
SPEAKER_00: Is fucking Case Keenum coming back, sitting off the couch, or whatever, whatever the fuck he was doing whenever they signed him.
1:03:52
SPEAKER_00: Um, he was lighting their ass up.
1:03:55
SPEAKER_00: Immediately.
1:03:55
SPEAKER_00: I mean, absolutely.
1:03:56
SPEAKER_02: I think he's been on their roster for a few.
1:03:59
SPEAKER_02: I think he's been rostered.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_02: He was for a little while.
1:04:01
SPEAKER_00: I don't think he was their last year, maybe.
1:04:03
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:04:04
SPEAKER_02: Maybe he wasn't.
1:04:05
SPEAKER_02: But I think he's been there this year.
1:04:07
SPEAKER_00: He wasn't even supposed to play.
1:04:10
SPEAKER_00: The thing is, like, if if Tyson would ever do plays Eagles probably remember probably win that game, you know what I'm saying?
1:04:17
SPEAKER_00: Even though it's bad as they offense and play, but the way Case Keenan was playing, carving him up and shit like that, like it was just, you know, just I mean surprising to change the whole game scheme, the whole plan.
1:04:30
SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, he's a better passer than Tyson fucking uh badge.
1:04:35
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, that that was also just because I thought I'm like, I forgot that he was out because of a concussion.
1:04:41
SPEAKER_02: So um, yeah, I mean, we'll see if um I mean shit, we'll see.
1:04:50
SPEAKER_02: Case Keenum's probably gonna be up be playing for the next two, three weeks, two.
1:04:55
SPEAKER_02: I mean, two, I mean potentially three, four.
1:04:59
SPEAKER_02: Um, and if they can't win, keep them out.
1:05:04
SPEAKER_02: I mean, yeah, they're not gonna rush him back at all.
1:05:07
SPEAKER_00: That's gonna piss me off if they keep winning games with Case Keenum.
1:05:11
SPEAKER_00: Thing is, it's like if they well, I'll tell you this right now.
1:05:15
SPEAKER_00: What you need to worry about out of that game is either one or two things.
1:05:20
SPEAKER_00: Um, either Philadelphia offense, you know, maybe it was a fluke night where they didn't play good at all.
1:05:28
SPEAKER_00: Or, because that's what you would probably want to hope for, of the lighter of the two, but either out of the Bears defense playing better.
1:05:37
SPEAKER_00: If they able to play like how they played Monday night, yeah, or not even just but half of that versus how I mean because they play good against Minnesota as well.
1:05:48
SPEAKER_00: If they were to play like that with that offense, bro, if Caleb, that's gonna be tough when he comes back.
1:05:54
SPEAKER_00: Like they have I mean, it's just so many weapons that Chicago has on offense they can hit you with.
1:06:00
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
1:06:01
SPEAKER_00: Like between Cole, I mean fucking Cole Komet, Loveland, Burden, and Burden had a good line on Doomsday.
1:06:11
SPEAKER_00: Swift, Monang.
1:06:12
SPEAKER_00: I mean, and they have a good line as well.
1:06:14
SPEAKER_02: Kali Frayman had fucking 90 yards and touchdowns.
1:06:18
SPEAKER_02: Khalif Raymond.
1:06:20
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, okay, yeah.
1:06:22
SPEAKER_00: Right, and that's and you mean also they have the rookie Xavion Thomas.
1:06:26
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's what I'm saying.
1:06:27
SPEAKER_00: Like that's that offense on Chicago, we've seen the best of what it's gonna be, obviously, that game against Carolina, dropping 59.
1:06:36
SPEAKER_01: But I mean, the way, I mean, you know, the way Caleb Williams can hurt you with his legs and throw the ball like that.
1:06:44
SPEAKER_01: If that defense is top 10, that's man, that's trouble.
1:06:51
SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna lie to you, bro.
1:06:53
SPEAKER_00: You know, I like you you said the fucking had to throw a little job.
1:06:56
SPEAKER_00: It was like Paris fan and three years that high.
1:07:00
SPEAKER_00: No Bengals fan, no matter what, even if Joe doesn't matter.
1:07:04
SPEAKER_00: But I just like certain players and I like certain.
1:07:08
SPEAKER_00: I don't yeah, just I fuck with Caleb Wood.
1:07:11
SPEAKER_00: No matter what, you know what I'm saying, what people fucking turn to an hour and 15, but whatever.
1:07:21
SPEAKER_00: But uh when I fuck with players, I fuck with them.
1:07:26
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
1:07:27
SPEAKER_00: Like just I don't know.
1:07:28
SPEAKER_00: It's just glazing.
1:07:29
SPEAKER_00: And it's no, it's not glazing, bro.
1:07:31
SPEAKER_00: I just I see what he can be.
1:07:33
SPEAKER_00: I think he's a really good quarterback.
1:07:35
SPEAKER_00: I do.
1:07:40
SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
1:07:41
SPEAKER_00: I he he is a very accurate quarterback.
1:07:45
SPEAKER_00: He can move with his legs, he can read defense.
1:07:49
SPEAKER_00: I mean, really the only reason why you probably don't like him is just his persona.
1:07:58
SPEAKER_00: The shit they do, and he plays for the Bears and all that.
1:08:01
SPEAKER_00: You know what Sam Bullet.
1:08:03
SPEAKER_00: He's a bear.
1:08:04
SPEAKER_00: But he's you can't you can't deny somebody's talent, you can't deny the difference they make.
1:08:10
SPEAKER_00: Right, that's what I'm saying.
1:08:11
SPEAKER_00: But like, that's but I'm just saying to for you, I mean if I'm in that division, I'm like, listen, the last thing we need is a defense to play good.
1:08:21
SPEAKER_00: That offense is gonna mean he's gonna be back at some point, right?
1:08:24
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, this is a win that they wasn't expected to get.
1:08:28
SPEAKER_00: A win that no one counted for.
1:08:30
SPEAKER_00: So they're two and one now.
1:08:31
SPEAKER_00: That saves them another week or two.
1:08:34
SPEAKER_00: And I don't even know who the fuck they play next week.
1:08:36
SPEAKER_00: I don't even know.
1:08:38
SPEAKER_00: Um But if they play some scrubs and they be able to go up three, three, one with him on the bench, like I don't think they have a very easy schedule.
1:08:48
SPEAKER_03: I don't think so either.
1:08:50
SPEAKER_03: But now they got the Jets next week.
1:08:58
SPEAKER_03: They can beat the Jets.
1:09:00
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:09:00
SPEAKER_00: And then they got the Packers and the Falcons and the Patriots.
1:09:04
SPEAKER_00: So I mean, those are all, I guess, and it's like they're all winnable games.
1:09:09
SPEAKER_00: Without him.
1:09:10
SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, I mean, if they they fucked around and go, you know, I don't think they will, but they go three, four, and one, like that should'll be crazy, bro.
1:09:19
SPEAKER_00: Unless they come back and they five and two, hey, bro.
1:09:25
SPEAKER_00: I told you the Bears would be the team that you need to watch out for this year, bro.
1:09:29
SPEAKER_00: That's gonna be the best team in the NFC.
1:09:32
SPEAKER_00: North is the Bears.
1:09:33
SPEAKER_00: Potentially, it'll be between us and them.
1:09:36
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:09:36
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I haven't seen better defensive performance out of them than y'all.
1:09:43
SPEAKER_00: But but the lead but the leaders.
1:09:44
SPEAKER_02: But the leaders of the division at the moment, the only 3-0 team is Minnesota.
1:09:49
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, Minnesota's gonna be a threat because they're defense.
1:09:52
SPEAKER_02: That defense is gonna be tired.
1:09:54
SPEAKER_02: If they can keep it up, though, yeah.
1:09:57
SPEAKER_00: You got Kyler Murray and Carson Wentz as your fucking quarterbacks.
1:10:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:10:04
SPEAKER_00: Bro, and the only guaranteed contractor-guaranteed quarterback they had moving forward after this year was a nigga they just traded away in McCarthy.
1:10:13
SPEAKER_00: So right now, technically, next year, we have no quarterback that's on their contract-wise on their roster.
1:10:21
SPEAKER_00: They're gonna either re-either re-sign Murray or Wentz or re or fucking draft a quarterback.
1:10:27
SPEAKER_00: But at this rate, if they play as well as they're playing, you make it to the playoffs or you win eight, nine, ten games, you're not getting a high pick.
1:10:37
SPEAKER_00: So all the quarterbacks that you want to be.
1:10:39
SPEAKER_02: You probably just have to re-sign Kyler at that point.
1:10:43
SPEAKER_00: So what?
1:10:44
SPEAKER_00: He ain't gonna do no one-year deal.
1:10:45
SPEAKER_00: He's gonna expect three, you won't, he's gonna want two, three years at least.
1:10:49
SPEAKER_00: You're gonna be able to pay, you're gonna be willing to pay him that.
1:10:52
SPEAKER_00: It depends how good he plays, so I don't know.
1:10:54
SPEAKER_00: He's not, I don't I mean, he's not, I don't think he didn't play.
1:10:56
SPEAKER_00: He hasn't played good yet.
1:10:59
SPEAKER_00: He's only played one game.
1:11:00
SPEAKER_00: Two.
1:11:01
SPEAKER_00: I mean he won an act.
1:11:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:11:03
SPEAKER_00: He didn't play good.
1:11:04
SPEAKER_02: I mean in the first quarter.
1:11:05
SPEAKER_02: He didn't play bad.
1:11:06
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
1:11:07
SPEAKER_02: He didn't play awful.
1:11:08
SPEAKER_02: They got they got the win against Tampa.
1:11:10
SPEAKER_02: I only think he had two hundred passes.
1:11:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I though I wasn't really that locked into that game.
1:11:17
SPEAKER_02: But it was his first game back, though.
1:11:19
SPEAKER_02: First game back, they got the win.
1:11:21
SPEAKER_02: It was in Tampa.
1:11:24
SPEAKER_02: Um, I mean still I didn't I he did throw a pick, I know that.
1:11:28
SPEAKER_02: But um, I think Justin Jefferson also went out of the game kinda early.
1:11:33
SPEAKER_00: But he but he had a 15 and 29, 168.
1:11:38
SPEAKER_00: Okay, that's not amazing.
1:11:40
SPEAKER_02: But that was our sound on a pick.
1:11:43
SPEAKER_02: How many yards?
1:11:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's okay.
1:11:47
SPEAKER_01: Five yards for how many rushing yards did he have?
1:11:52
SPEAKER_03: Did he have any running yards?
1:12:20
SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, he's definitely got some got some high expectations for sure.
1:12:25
SPEAKER_00: And also, not to mention no telling how long Jordan or Justin Jefferson's gonna be out for.
1:12:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, hopefully that's short term.
1:12:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, hopefully, give me yeah.
1:12:36
SPEAKER_02: For them, not for me, no for you.
1:12:40
SPEAKER_02: But uh, yeah, we'll probably get this one wrapped up though.
1:12:44
SPEAKER_02: Uh get into next week, recap all these games next week and wrap up wrap up season four, but yes, uh, definitely get past it.
1:12:55
SPEAKER_02: Get cast tonight.
1:12:56
SPEAKER_02: Uh for now.
1:12:57
SPEAKER_02: CDT is out.