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9/4/26 Real America with Guest Host Riley Lewis - Nancy Mace, Libby Emmons, Deron Smallcomb, J.J. Carrell, Kevin Smith · Real America with Dan Ball

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  Speaker 1: Straight ahead on Real America, the judge overseeing the triple
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  Speaker 1: murder trial of Lindsay Clancy, the Massachusetts woman accused of
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  Speaker 1: killing her own children, officially declares a mistrial, setting the
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  Speaker 1: stage for another trial this fall. South Carolina Congresswoman Nancy
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  Speaker 1: Mace is here with reaction at the top of the
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  Speaker 1: show tonight. Plus, a federal judge blocks the enforcement of
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  Speaker 1: a brand new executive order aimed at cracking down on
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  Speaker 1: the abuse of birthright citizenship. a leading immigration attorney will
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  Speaker 1: break it all down. And thousands, actually tens of thousands
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  Speaker 1: of angry Spaniards take to the streets of Spain to
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  Speaker 1: protest mass migration. We have all the details. I'm Riley
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  Speaker 1: Lewis filling in for Dan Ball and Real America starts
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  Speaker 1: right now.
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  Speaker 2: All right, members of the jury, at this point, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to declare that the jury is deadlocked, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to declare a mistrial.
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  Speaker 1: Good Friday evening to you folks, and welcome to Real America.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your guest host tonight, filling in for Dan Ball,
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  Speaker 1: and we begin tonight's show with some major news regarding
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  Speaker 1: one of the most widely watched criminal cases in recent
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  Speaker 1: American history. The judge in the triple murder case of
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  Speaker 1: Lindsay Clancy, the Massachusetts woman accused of murdering her own
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  Speaker 1: children in January of 2023, has declared a mistrial. You
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  Speaker 1: heard me right, folks. Following seven days of painstaking deliberations
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  Speaker 1: and nearly six long weeks of trial testimony, Judge William
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  Speaker 1: Sullivan officially declared a mistrial. His ruling comes after a
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  Speaker 1: judge on the state's Supreme Court denied an emergency appeal
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  Speaker 1: from Clancy's own defense attorney, Mr. Kevin Reddington, and the
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  Speaker 1: jury was dismissed this afternoon. A new hearing now is
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  Speaker 1: reportedly being scheduled for the end of the month, and
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  Speaker 1: it could determine what happens next. We may get a trial.
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  Speaker 1: We may get a plea deal. We just don't know.
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  Speaker 1: But in the meantime, let's review the situation and talk
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  Speaker 1: about how we got here and what's going on. Clancy,
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  Speaker 1: a 36-year-old labor and delivery nurse, pleaded not guilty to
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  Speaker 1: three counts of first-degree murder for the deaths of her children, Cora, Callen,
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  Speaker 1: and Dawson, at their family home in the city of Duxbury. Additionally,
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  Speaker 1: her defense team hasn't disputed that she killed these children.
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  Speaker 1: The only central question here is, and was, whether she
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  Speaker 1: was criminally responsible or not, because she was allegedly suffering
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  Speaker 1: from something called postpartum psychosis. Now, this case, which is
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  Speaker 1: very strange for a lot of reasons we're about to explore,
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  Speaker 1: has received global attention, and tensions have been skyrocketing. See,
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  Speaker 1: some people have supported her, even from day one. Others,
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  Speaker 1: not so much, and her own defense attorney routinely criticized
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  Speaker 1: Judge Sullivan about his own handling of the case in
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  Speaker 1: front of the world on camera and in open court,
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  Speaker 1: including today. Watch.
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  Speaker 3: Reinstruct them on that forcefully.
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  Speaker 4: I think I did that yesterday, didn't I?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: You did it yesterday, you did it soft, you didn't
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  Speaker 3: do it forcefully, and I'm asking you to do it forcefully.
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  Speaker 4: What do you want me to do? Get a brass band?
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  Speaker 2: I read the instruction as written by the SJC.
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  Speaker 5: The fact that I perhaps didn't give it my full inflection,
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorry about that.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not an actor.
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  Speaker 5: I've just given the instructions.
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  Speaker 1: The tension, the utter disrespect coming from counsel, by the way. Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: And joining us now to discuss the situation... What happens
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  Speaker 1: next and how we got here is Republican Congresswoman Nancy Mace,
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  Speaker 1: representative of South Carolina's 1st District. Congresswoman, thank you for
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  Speaker 1: your time and thank you for being here. I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you.
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  Speaker 7: Disrespect to the judge, disrespect to the jury, disrespect to
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  Speaker 7: the process. I mean, that defense attorney, Reddington, went after
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  Speaker 7: the lone juror who was holding the line and vilified
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  Speaker 7: that guy in public, identified he was one of only
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  Speaker 7: three male jurors, by the way, put a target on
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  Speaker 7: his back and vilified the juror in public.
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  Speaker 4: Agreed.
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  Speaker 1: Regardless of what you think of the case. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if I was on that jury, I would say guilty
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  Speaker 1: every single day of the week, twice on Sunday. But
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  Speaker 1: even setting that aside, what kind of decorum is that
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  Speaker 1: or lack thereof from an agent of the law Congresswoman?
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  Speaker 1: That is insane to me and totally unacceptable.
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  Speaker 7: No decorum whatsoever. And the other thing that you pointed
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  Speaker 7: out too, is there are 11 jurors that, that sat
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  Speaker 7: in that courtroom, And listen to this woman's story, knowing
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  Speaker 7: she murdered her children and said not guilty. And the
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  Speaker 7: lone juror who was holding the line against the other
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  Speaker 7: 11 jurists got attacked by the defense and they tried
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  Speaker 7: to throw him off the jury. I mean, to me,
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  Speaker 7: you know, putting, gendering him when there are.
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  Speaker 6: Only three men, you pick, it's one of the three.
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  Speaker 7: This guy's going to have a target on his back
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  Speaker 7: when he gets out of that courtroom. And I hope
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I hope that folks are praying for him
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  Speaker 7: tonight and this weekend and his family so that one
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  Speaker 7: lone jurist who understood the case, understood that murder is criminal,
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  Speaker 7: that that lone juror is going to be safe. I'm
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  Speaker 7: very concerned about his safety and his security.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, as am I. And, you know, speaking of Congresswoman,
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  Speaker 1: I want to roll this clip and get your reaction
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  Speaker 1: because I think it says everything about the hostility that
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  Speaker 1: this juror faced and the same for the people in
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  Speaker 1: the public and online who have said that she's absolutely guilty.
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  Speaker 1: So I want to roll this of Kevin Reddington, Clancy's
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  Speaker 1: defense attorney, and get your thoughts.
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  Speaker 3: You have not one but two notes that clearly indicates
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  Speaker 3: that this individual has acknowledged doubt. but refuses to apply
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  Speaker 3: it to the verdict. As the law states, he is
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  Speaker 3: not being honest.
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  Speaker 4: With you at the sidebar.
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  Speaker 3: I would go so far as to reluctantly say that
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  Speaker 3: the individual has made a false statement under oath to
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  Speaker 3: this court.
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  Speaker 1: Congresswoman, serious allegations. What are your thoughts?
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  Speaker 7: Well, the judge got to decide that, and the judge
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  Speaker 7: decided not to throw the juror off and out of
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  Speaker 7: the court. So perhaps the judge knows more than the
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  Speaker 7: defense attorney. But I mean, Reddington, I don't know how
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  Speaker 7: much money he's getting paid, but he's doing a damn
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  Speaker 7: good job of it.
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  Speaker 8: That guy deserves an Oscar.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, completely agreed, which is interesting because at one point
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  Speaker 1: the judge says, I'm not an actor. Sorry, you don't
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  Speaker 1: think that I'm forceful enough, which is insane to me.
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  Speaker 7: Intonation or inflection.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. We all saw the moment. So everything's up in
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  Speaker 1: the air. This happened just today. Jury's gone home. We'll
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  Speaker 1: have a hearing at the end of the month. Let
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  Speaker 1: me ask you a question. How on earth, given the nature,
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  Speaker 1: it's been so high profile, so much coverage, so much
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  Speaker 1: chatter online, offline, all these people on TikTok, these internet sleuths,
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  Speaker 1: the self-declared detectives and legal experts and psychologists and psychiatrists,
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  Speaker 1: how on earth are we going to find an unbiased
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  Speaker 1: jury should they retry this later this fall?
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  Speaker 7: I think it'll be difficult. I think that is a
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  Speaker 7: realistic challenge. But there are people out there that don't
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  Speaker 7: watch the news. So those jurors are out there. And
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  Speaker 7: I don't know that you can do it back in Plymouth, Massachusetts.
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  Speaker 7: I think you might have to go elsewhere to a
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  Speaker 7: different judicial circuit in order to get a fair, I think,
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  Speaker 7: a fair trial in this case and find individuals who
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  Speaker 7: may not know of the case or may not know
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  Speaker 7: much about it.
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  Speaker 8: That is a real challenge.
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  Speaker 7: But a mistrial is better than not guilty by 12 people.
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  Speaker 7: When a woman murdered her kids and I just go
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  Speaker 7: back to those three babies. I just can't for the
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  Speaker 7: life of me. You sent your husband to the store
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  Speaker 7: and he came home to find them dead in this
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  Speaker 7: mob of Lindsay Clancy, the mom mob, blaming it on
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  Speaker 7: the husband. I just, this whole thing has been a
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  Speaker 7: scourge on humanity. And if you're a mom and you
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  Speaker 7: have kids and you don't want to be a mom,
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  Speaker 7: then just say that. You don't go murder your children.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so agreed. And I don't like this blaming. I've
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  Speaker 1: seen you talk about this online, actually. I don't like
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  Speaker 1: this idea that we just blame things on the healthcare system.
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  Speaker 1: I know it's very flawed. Blame things on your ex-husband.
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  Speaker 1: Blame things on everybody but you. What we're talking about
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  Speaker 1: is someone who's possibly a serial killer. Her defense attorney
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  Speaker 1: is not denying that she's responsible for it. And every
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  Speaker 1: serial killer is messed up in the head. That doesn't
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  Speaker 1: justify the actions.
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  Speaker 7: And this is very eye-opening in terms of- To your point,
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  Speaker 7: every serial killer is crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Every serial killer is insane.
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  Speaker 7: Every serial killer is mentally ill. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 7: think she's any different than any other serial killer.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. So final, I want to get your thoughts. A
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  Speaker 1: jury is, it's supposed to be a sample of the
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  Speaker 1: broader population. So what we're seeing now, the sympathy, the
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  Speaker 1: glorification of her, it is a reflection of where we
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  Speaker 1: are in America today. What do you make of it?
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  Speaker 7: Well, I think it's very scary that the glorification of
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  Speaker 7: murder is some sort of altruistic compassion these days. It's
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  Speaker 7: just like electing a socialist to.
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  Speaker 8: Be a U.S.
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  Speaker 7: Senator or a governor. Where we are today as a
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  Speaker 7: society is deeply disturbing. And I think all of us,
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  Speaker 7: I have children that are grown. One day I'll be
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  Speaker 7: a grandma.
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  Speaker 6: But I think the future.
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  Speaker 7: For our children and our grandchildren is a very, very
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  Speaker 7: disturbing place when you think about what's going on culturally.
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  Speaker 7: You know, if you can murder your kids because of
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  Speaker 7: your hormones and men can rape women because of I mean,
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  Speaker 7: just the slippery slope we're going down and it didn't
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  Speaker 7: take them long to go from, you know, aborting babies
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  Speaker 7: at 20 weeks to aborting them.
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  Speaker 8: Right up until birth.
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  Speaker 7: And now we can just abort toddlers when they're six. OK,
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  Speaker 7: that's that's where we are as a society. And I
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  Speaker 7: can't think of I just never thought in my lifetime
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  Speaker 7: that this is where America would be.
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  Speaker 1: I hope I mean, I am a person of faith.
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  Speaker 1: I trust in God to pull us through this moment.
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  Speaker 1: But very scary times. It keeps getting worse.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And the same for me, Gioni, too. A killer being
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  Speaker 1: glorified as some sort of weird folk hero, some sort
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  Speaker 1: of progressive. It's really insane to me. Yeah, that's it.
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  Speaker 4: That's it exactly.
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  Speaker 6: And it's disappointing.
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  Speaker 7: And I am deeply concerned for the future of our country.
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  Speaker 4: Agreed.
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  Speaker 1: Congresswoman Thank you for your time. I know you're very busy.
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  Speaker 1: And thank you for what you're doing on Capitol Hill.
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  Speaker 1: I really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 7: Four more months and we're just going to rock it
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  Speaker 7: out and work as hard as we've always have.
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  Speaker 1: Still to come on the show, we will continue our
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  Speaker 1: coverage of the disturbing, alarming case of Lindsay Clancy and
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  Speaker 1: talk about how it's shaping our nation culturally. and what
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  Speaker 1: this whole process and this whole mistrial says about the
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  Speaker 1: current state of America, from nonstop talk online, which we
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  Speaker 1: just discussed, to Lindsay getting letters from all over the world.
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  Speaker 1: Podcast host Libby Emmons will join us next to weigh
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  Speaker 1: in on the controversy.
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• 11:06
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• 11:08
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  Speaker 8: You are never going to make me hate Lindsay Clancy.
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  Speaker 7: I don't stand with Lindsay Clancy and neither should you.
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  Speaker 12: If you believe that Patrick did it, you would also
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  Speaker 12: have to believe that every trained, seasoned expert who worked
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  Speaker 12: on this case for the past three years somehow got
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  Speaker 12: it wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Reasons why I think Patrick Clancy did it and he's
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  Speaker 2: framing his wife part two.
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  Speaker 8: Lindsay Clancy did not confess to killing her children.
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  Speaker 1: Folks, love her or hate her, Lindsay Clancy is dominating
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  Speaker 1: the news and it's because her story and the case
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  Speaker 1: surrounding what she did is devastating. This is one of
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  Speaker 1: the most horrific cases we've seen in a long time,
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  Speaker 1: a case of triple murder. And suddenly, interestingly, everybody on
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  Speaker 1: social media is a detective or a lawyer or a
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  Speaker 1: psychologist or a psychiatrist or an expert in forensics. Folks,
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  Speaker 1: that's why I stay offline as much as possible. And
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  Speaker 1: mind you, Clancy never submitted a formal written confession or
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  Speaker 1: a recorded one. But her own defense attorney, Kevin Reddington,
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  Speaker 1: has never denied that she killed her children, whose names, again,
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  Speaker 1: were Cora, Callan, and Dawson. She strangled them. All the
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  Speaker 1: evidence points to her doing it. We broke it all
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  Speaker 1: down at the top of the show, and yet countless
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  Speaker 1: people are supporting Clancy. According to her own lawyer, Mr., again,
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Reddington, she's received letters of support from people all
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  Speaker 1: over the planet. Just days ago, he told reporters he
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  Speaker 1: had enough letters to fill three bankers' boxes. And Clancy
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  Speaker 1: supposedly has read all of them during the lengthy deliberations process,
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  Speaker 1: which is now over. Of course, there may be a
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  Speaker 1: new trial.
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  Speaker 4: We don't know.
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  Speaker 1: There could be a plea agreement. We really don't know,
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  Speaker 1: which again, we just discussed. But this whole situation has
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  Speaker 1: revealed so much about where our nation stands on key
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  Speaker 1: issues like accountability, responsibility, justice, and even motherhood. After all,
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  Speaker 1: Clancy was a labor and delivery nurse, and her case
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  Speaker 1: has been constantly surrounded by conversations about the lesser-discussed situations
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  Speaker 1: that allegedly face some mothers. That notably applies to the
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  Speaker 1: onset of postpartum psychosis, a real but very rare condition.
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  Speaker 1: People who sympathize with Clancy argue she was deprived of
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  Speaker 1: sufficient mental health treatment, and they argue mothers across the
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  Speaker 1: entire country are also deprived of it. And that may
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  Speaker 1: or may not be true. I'm no expert. But regardless
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  Speaker 1: of the outcome here, this is an ongoing conversation, and
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  Speaker 1: we're bringing on our next guest to break all of
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  Speaker 1: this down in a more real way. So joining us
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  Speaker 1: now is Libby Emmons of The Postmillennial and host of
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  Speaker 1: The Podmillennial. Libby, it's been a long time, but it's
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  Speaker 1: great to see you. I hope you're doing well.
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  Speaker 8: I sure am, Riley. Great to see you.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, aside from the horrific circumstances, I kind of
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  Speaker 1: just want to kick it to you. I mean, we're seeing...
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  Speaker 1: mixed reactions, but a lot of people, and notably women,
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  Speaker 1: supporting Lindsay Clancy. What do you make of that?
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, me and friends of mine who are
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  Speaker 13: moms find it absolutely inconceivable that anyone could support Clancy.
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  Speaker 13: It's like out of the realm of even remote possibility
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  Speaker 13: that anyone that I know would actually support a woman
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  Speaker 13: who murdered her children. And so I think there's a
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  Speaker 13: lot of women who look upon this with just shock
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  Speaker 13: and are gobsmacked by how many women could be out
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  Speaker 13: there in front of the courthouse. There's been hundreds. Some
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  Speaker 13: women bring their children out there. I mean, imagine looking
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  Speaker 13: up at your mom and being like, Mom, really? Do
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  Speaker 13: we need to stop by grandma's? Should I stay over
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  Speaker 13: there for a while? It's truly shocking to see this.
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  Speaker 13: And I'm sure that I'm not the only one. in
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  Speaker 13: media also who thinks that this is an unfathomable reaction
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  Speaker 13: to a woman who's killed her children.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. And again, I would reiterate, no official confession from her,
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  Speaker 1: but her defense attorney has not denied it from day one.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't want to overgeneralize here. And I know
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  Speaker 1: that real life isn't the same as social media. But
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  Speaker 1: when I open my phone and I go to TikTok,
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  Speaker 1: this Chinese spyware app, And I see countless videos in
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  Speaker 1: my algorithm in my feed popping up one after the
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  Speaker 1: other of women, you know, they have their baby right
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  Speaker 1: then jump shot and they have a baby doll and
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  Speaker 1: they toss it in the dishwasher. They throw it in
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  Speaker 1: the dryer. They drop it down a set of stairs
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  Speaker 1: and they say, oh, that's just my postpartum anxiety. It
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  Speaker 1: is so disturbing to me, Libby. And as a mother,
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  Speaker 1: I want your thoughts specifically about that. What in the
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  Speaker 1: world are they trying to achieve? What kind of message
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  Speaker 1: are they sending to people?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, isn't it really? It's really wild. I will just
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  Speaker 8: say that you can't plead.
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  Speaker 13: I don't believe you can plead guilty by reason, not
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  Speaker 13: guilty by reason of insanity without admitting that you have
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  Speaker 13: actually done the thing.
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  Speaker 8: Otherwise, you wouldn't need the insanity defense.
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  Speaker 13: So that's an admission itself that she did this thing.
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  Speaker 13: The 911 call that her husband made, I believe she
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  Speaker 13: said that the children are in the basement. So Those
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  Speaker 13: are things that I think indicate that she knows that
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  Speaker 13: she committed this act and is trying to, you know,
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  Speaker 13: at this point, close to successfully get off on this
• 17:17
  Speaker 13: insanity defense. But as a mom, what to make of
• 17:20
  Speaker 13: these Instagram posts and the TikToks and all of these
• 17:23
  Speaker 13: women coming into Clancy's defense and probably celebrating to a
• 17:28
  Speaker 13: certain extent now that it's a mistrial, although she does
• 17:30
  Speaker 13: remain in custody until a new hearing or trial or
• 17:34
  Speaker 13: whatever it is that they're going to be doing. is set,
• 17:37
  Speaker 13: and I think that they're going to be doing that
• 17:39
  Speaker 13: relatively soon. But looking at all of these women who
• 17:42
  Speaker 13: are rushing to her defense, I just find it absolutely shocking,
• 17:46
  Speaker 13: you know, that you would say that your child could
• 17:49
  Speaker 13: be at fault for something. And these are women who
• 17:53
  Speaker 13: their expectations have not been realized for their lives. And
• 17:56
  Speaker 13: so they're taking it out on their children, and that's
• 17:59
  Speaker 13: never acceptable.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: You can say that again, Libby. And money add, It's
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: not just the defense. People aren't just defending her. You
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: had that woman, Dawn Light, 56 years old, allegedly from
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Sutton or something, Massachusetts, who was caught outside of the
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: courthouse in Plymouth County photographing and filming people. The police
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: officers found the evidence on her phone and her defense
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: was she thought that Lindsay Clancy would emerge from the
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: courthouse and she would have a chance to snag a photo.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: They are turning her into some sort of icon, which
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: is also interesting because her defense attorney, Kevin Reddington, is
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: now being called a feminist icon by fawning fans. Libby,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, your thoughts.
• 18:45
  Speaker 13: The only way he's a feminist icon is if the
• 18:47
  Speaker 13: mission of feminism was to infantilize women and say that
• 18:50
  Speaker 13: they couldn't be in control of anything.
• 18:52
  Speaker 8: Even themselves or their own emotions.
• 18:54
  Speaker 13: The whole notion that she is some kind of, you know,
• 18:58
  Speaker 13: that she should get off because of her hormones or
• 19:01
  Speaker 13: whatever leans into the pre-feminist notion that women aren't capable
• 19:06
  Speaker 13: of handling themselves properly.
• 19:07
  Speaker 8: How can we argue that women should.
• 19:09
  Speaker 13: Be CEOs or in charge of anything at all, even
• 19:13
  Speaker 13: their own homes and families and children, if we can't
• 19:17
  Speaker 13: even trust them not to kill those children when they
• 19:20
  Speaker 13: feel really sad about being a mommy that day? And
• 19:22
  Speaker 13: to speak to the notion that Clancy didn't have enough support,
• 19:26
  Speaker 13: she had 18 months of maternity leave.
• 19:29
  Speaker 8: Her husband worked from home.
• 19:31
  Speaker 13: She had super supportive in-laws, super supportive parents who have
• 19:35
  Speaker 13: been there now.
• 19:35
  Speaker 8: Every day of the trial. She had a.
• 19:38
  Speaker 13: Nanny up until 2022 when she decided to leave work
• 19:41
  Speaker 13: for a while and stay home with the kids. And
• 19:44
  Speaker 13: she had so much mental health support that she had
• 19:49
  Speaker 13: countless dogs. prescribing her different drugs. This is a woman
• 19:52
  Speaker 13: who needed to get control of herself. This is a
• 19:55
  Speaker 13: woman who needed to go find God, who needed to
• 19:57
  Speaker 13: look at what she thought her life was supposed to
• 19:59
  Speaker 13: be like and adjust her expectations to meet reality. And
• 20:02
  Speaker 13: I am so sick and tired of women being like, oh,
• 20:05
  Speaker 13: she had a tumbler, a wine tumbler on her bedside
• 20:08
  Speaker 13: that said, because kids?
• 20:10
  Speaker 8: Are you kidding me? This whole wine mom concept. needs
• 20:14
  Speaker 8: to go out the window.
• 20:15
  Speaker 13: Once you become a mother, you have a responsibility to
• 20:17
  Speaker 13: something far greater than yourself. And that's the preservation of
• 20:20
  Speaker 13: the human life that God has entrusted to you.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: Amen.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Libby Emmons, host of the Pod Millennial. Everybody
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: go check out her work online and I appreciate your time.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Great to see you as always.
• 20:30
  Speaker 8: Thanks so much, Riley.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Coming up next, folks, an activist judge stops the Trump
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: administration's crackdown on the widespread abuse of birthright citizenship and
• 20:41
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  Speaker 14: According to the court, American citizenship is nothing more than
• 22:35
  Speaker 14: a function of where you are born. If an illegal
• 22:38
  Speaker 14: alien or temporary visitor arrives in America today and gives birth,
• 22:42
  Speaker 14: her child is an American citizen. If a Chinese national
• 22:45
  Speaker 14: flies to America days before her due date to give birth,
• 22:47
  Speaker 14: her child is an American citizen. If that sounds insane
• 22:51
  Speaker 14: to you, it's because it is. The 14th Amendment was
• 22:54
  Speaker 14: never meant to turn American soil into a factory for
• 22:57
  Speaker 14: manufacturing United States citizenship.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Very interesting point. Welcome back to the show, folks. That,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: of course, was Texas Congressman Chip Roy mounting his argument
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: for what seems to be the flagrant abuse of the
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: 14th Amendment. Congressman Roy made those comments during a recent
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: hearing about birthright citizenship this week, in fact. And they
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: come amidst a battle, an ongoing, highly contentious battle over
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: birthright citizenship and what they call the birth tourism industry. See,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: not so long ago, President Trump began cracking down on
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: this widespread, wide-reaching global industry, signing not one, but two
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: executive orders to restrict birthright citizenship and birth tourism nearly
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: one month ago, so early August. But now the future
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: of those orders is totally unclear. That's because a federal
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: judge in Maryland, Deborah Boardman, blocked one of those executive
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: orders from being enforced this week on Wednesday, siding with
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: activist groups who were legally challenging the policy. Interesting. Now,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Judge Boardman said the order is basically unconstitutional in reference
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court's recent ruling on this matter in June.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: That ruling said children born in the U.S. to parents
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: who are here illegally on American soil are in fact
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: protected by the 14th Amendment's Citizenship Clause. And it even
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: prevents federal agencies like the State Department and DHS from
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: refusing to recognize their citizenship. But folks, there's still an
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: ongoing and open question about people who abuse these systems
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: and what happens in those cases, some of which are documented.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: We know that birth tourism is real. We know what's happening.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: There are foreign nationals who are scamming the system. And
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: that's exactly why certain experts out there are demanding reform.
• 24:58
  Speaker 11: Watch.
• 24:59
  Speaker 9: Reform the immigration laws so that you're not giving any
• 25:03
  Speaker 9: benefits to people who abuse our laws by giving birth
• 25:08
  Speaker 9: here so they don't get welfare payments paid to them.
• 25:12
  Speaker 9: Only the US citizen child gets them. You know, there
• 25:16
  Speaker 9: are various ways to do this, potentially a residency requirement
• 25:20
  Speaker 9: so that if the parent takes the child home with
• 25:23
  Speaker 9: them and the child has never lived in the United
• 25:25
  Speaker 9: States except the day they were born, maybe they can
• 25:28
  Speaker 9: lose their citizenship.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: There it is, folks, and here with us now to
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: discuss is Darren Smallcomb, an author and leading immigration attorney
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: based in the state of Texas. Darren, my friend, thank
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: you for being here. Great to meet you, and I
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: appreciate it.
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: Happy to be here.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: So I want to start with the central question of
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: this whole debate, the executive orders coming from the White House.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Does the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and its
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: citizenship clause protect the children of parents who were here
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: either temporarily or even illegally?
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: It does.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: And the Supreme Court ruled on that.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Issue in June 6 to 3 and said that it
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: was a constitutional issue. that no law or executive order
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: could override that, only a constitutional amendment.
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: So there is that.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: And what the Trump administration has tried to do is
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: twofold since then. One, and this is the issue that
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: was overruled by Judge Boardman, was saying, okay, the Supreme
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Court says that you are a citizen if you're born here,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: but we're not going to give you any paperwork unless
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: you meet certain requirements, which is your parents can't be
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: illegally in the United States. And that is what Judge
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Boardman overruled and said, no, that's basically just a different
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: way to go about denying of citizenship. And that's already
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: been ruled upon by the Supreme Court. So that was
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: one ruling that came down. The other, and this one
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: is valid, and I believe it will continue to remain
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: valid despite challenges, which is the fraud that's occurring for
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: people to come in and have children in the United States.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: That's a real issue.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Misrepresentation and people not stating their reasons for coming to
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: the United States, and then having children here when they're
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: under the pretext of, say, being a tourist or some
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: other reason for being here that's lawful, and then having
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: a child. That is visa fraud, and that is enforceable
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: under the law, and that is being held up still.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: That has not been overruled by that judge or any
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: other judge.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: So Darren, so let me ask you this, and I
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: do want to get to the sham marriages at some
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: point because that's obviously alarming and that shouldn't be political.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: All Americans, regardless of party, should be concerned. But I
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: want to ask you more about the penalties that you're
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: alluding to for visa fraud. What happens in a case
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: like that?
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: For the most part, you're going to get a refusal
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: of entry and denial of future visas. So they'll cancel
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: your visa and turn you away back home and not
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: let you apply again for a long time. there's usually
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: no jail time or anything associated with it.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: And so, and that's been illegal for a long time.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: What the administration is doing here is it bring is
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: bringing it to the forefront of the news, which is
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: really their intent with everything that's going on with regards
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: to birthright citizenship.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: One final clarifying question here. When you say visas denied,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: they can't apply for it. Do you mean they can't
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: apply again for the same visa or just any visa
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: across the whole board?
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: In general, they'll be denied entry for at least five
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: years when there's a denial of entry at the border.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: So if they came on a tourist visa and let's
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: say somebody is eight or nine months pregnant and they're
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: lying about, they believe that they're lying about the pretext
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: for being here and they get turned away. Usually their
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: visa will be canceled and they will have a five-year
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: penalty for implying for any visa again. without a special waiver,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: which is hard to get.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: Understood.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Thank you for that. So I do want to call
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: your attention to this. This is very interesting. If we
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: could show this headline, please, back there, about the sham marriages.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: So recently we had at least, right, 11 Chinese foreign
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: nationals charged. And what they say is one of the
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: single largest cases of marriage fraud in U.S. history, facilitating
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: well over 1,000 bogus marriages. I want to get your
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: reaction to that and your legal analysis as well about
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: what those foreign nationals could be looking at in terms
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: of fines and or prison time.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I doubt you'll see much prison time on that, except
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: for perhaps somebody that's organizing it on a commercial scale.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: For those that are participating in it, it's interesting.
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: It's pretty hard to prove to a criminal level.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Usually what happens are, again, visas or green card applications
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: are denied and people could be removed from the country,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: of which, of course, there's going to be a hearing
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: before any type of removal. So it's certainly a serious issue.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: It's been an issue for many decades, quite frankly, marriages
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: leading to a green card, because it's one of the
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: easier ways to get a green card. And targeting commercial
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: enterprises is doing really what the administration's ultimate goal is here.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: And I want to bring a stat to your attention.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: And I think it's really important for the audience to
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: understand is that over the past year, more than 3
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: million foreign-born individuals have left the United States. Now, that
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: is not through enforcement. Enforcement at most is 1 million.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: What you're getting is people that are voluntarily leaving because
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: it is becoming so difficult to pursue any process and
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: the pressure has been turned up by the administration so
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: much that people are just giving up and self-deporting And ultimately,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: that's the goal of the administration.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: That's the only way you deal with the backlog.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Very interesting. And I've heard quite a bit about that
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: backlog that you referenced, by the way. One last thing.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: So this really caught my attention, as well as the
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: whole team here, frankly.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: The U.S.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Government possibly asking parents, and again, I want your legal
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: analysis here. This is not political necessarily, but legal take here.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Asking parents to prove citizenship or immigration status to get
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: passports for their kids. Darren, what say you?
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's not going to hold up in the end.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Uh, they're continuing to put the pressure on it, but
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: it's just a, it's a workaround to say, okay, kids
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: are entitled to citizenship, but we're not going to give
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: you any documents unless you could prove that your parents are.
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: Citizens, but that's not how the 14th amendment reads.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: And, uh, you know, if it goes much further, I
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: don't think that it will, at least not successfully, that's
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: not going to be held up. So, uh, The administration
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: doesn't want to let this issue go. I think they
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: know that the end result is that this one isn't
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: going to go much further. But they're making their point
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: known that it's not going to be easy for people
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: that are here illegally who are having.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: Children here for the purpose of acquiring citizenship alone.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Well, I have to say you're right about that. I,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: for one, personally am happy they're making a point about
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: it at all and bringing this issue even of fraud
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: just to light because so many people have no idea
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: about the full extent of it. And Darren, I just
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: want to say thank you for your time today as well.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: Happy to be here.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: All right, folks, moving forward on the show tonight, Spain
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: in dismay after, get this, 60,000 migrants from North Africa
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: reached the city of Ceuta, which is in Morocco, a
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Spanish territory, and have refused, and I mean refused, to assimilate.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Up next, we'll look into the migrant emergency situation in Spain,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: and all over the EU, and share why it serves
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: as a drastic warning to this country. Stay with us.
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  Speaker 1: Did you guys just see that? Tens of thousands of
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Spaniards in the streets of Madrid protesting the illegal invasion
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: of their country by unwelcome migrants? We don't see that
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: every day, do we, folks? And in case you missed
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: the story, it's been a whole thing all week long,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: and here is the nuts and bolts of it. Thousands
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: of people. And when I say thousands, I mean, look
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: at that. With your own eyes, look. That's thousands of
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: people demonstrating all over Spain this week over the continuing
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: immigration and humanitarian crisis in the city of Ceuta, which
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: is a Spanish territory in Morocco, so North Africa. Rallies
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: took place in Barcelona, Madrid, Seville, even Ceuta itself. And
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: protesters chanted against their socialist government, calling for their prime
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: minister to either resign or even go to prison for
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: his handling of a massive border surge in late July.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Just think about that. Estimates even say, get this, there
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: were 50,000 people in the streets of Madrid alone. 50,000! Now,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: as to that border surge, we have to go back
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: to late July. That's when roughly 70,000 to 72,000 North
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Africans invaded, stormed, flooded into the streets of Souda from Morocco,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: overwhelming a territory with a population of, give or take, 84,000 people.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: That's it. They overran the infrastructure. They were sleeping in
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: the streets. They were looting local businesses. Some reports say
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: they were looting people's homes. Other reports say they were
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: openly defecating and urinating in the city's streets. And now,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: about five weeks later, over a month, hundreds, if not
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: thousands of them, are still sleeping on the city's streets
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: every single night. Even more disturbing, reports suggest Spanish Prime
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Minister Pedro Sanchez knew this invasion was on the way.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: He knew it was coming and did nothing to stop it. Yes,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: they turned hundreds or thousands of people away, but those
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: reports would explain why people want Sanchez either to resign
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: or get behind bars, right? In fact, tensions are so
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: high right now, so palpable, that things are getting violent.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: We're not just seeing protests. We're not just seeing demonstrations
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: or flags being waved. We're seeing all-out brawls with law enforcement.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: as police officers deploy tear gas to stop people from
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: confronting these invaders. Not immigrants, but invaders. Military vehicles have
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: been attacked. Demonstrators temporarily blocked Red Cross vehicles from delivering
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: food and water to these illegal aliens. And who knows
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: what might happen next? Now joining us to discuss is
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: author and retired Border Patrol agent, J.J.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: Carroll.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: J.J., my friend, how are you?
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: I'm doing great.
• 36:37
  Speaker 15: And when you look at that, and I'm listening to
• 36:39
  Speaker 15: your opening statements on this, and it just, it strikes
• 36:42
  Speaker 15: me as surreal that what we just witnessed, that was
• 36:45
  Speaker 15: the equivalent of four days, four days under Joe Biden.
• 36:50
  Speaker 15: Every four days, we got 60 to 80,000 people that
• 36:53
  Speaker 15: we knew of, not the getaways, just the ones that
• 36:55
  Speaker 15: were arrested and released. Every four to five days, Joe
• 36:59
  Speaker 15: Biden for his entire four years, that's what happened to America.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: It is unbelievable. And to your point, what's also unbelievable
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: is that Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and then DHS Secretary
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Alejandro Mayorkas walked away from it all scot-free. No accountability.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: It's insane to me, JJ.
• 37:16
  Speaker 15: Well, it is insane to you, but then you ask yourself, well,
• 37:19
  Speaker 15: has anybody been arrested for the Russia hoax, the election hoax,
• 37:22
  Speaker 15: the COVID hoax, and now the treason for the United
• 37:25
  Speaker 15: States border? The sovereignty being absolutely eviscerated and nobody's held accountable.
• 37:31
  Speaker 15: Nobody has been held accountable in the entirety of the
• 37:34
  Speaker 15: almost two years of the Trump administration.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: That's unacceptable. They committed treason. They opened our borders.
• 37:39
  Speaker 15: Just so your audience understands that the numbers right now,
• 37:42
  Speaker 15: conservatively now, are saying that it's over 30 million people
• 37:46
  Speaker 15: came in in four years under Joe Biden. Spain's freaking
• 37:50
  Speaker 15: out about 80,000. We took in 30 million people. 30 million,
• 37:54
  Speaker 15: that's unbelievable. Now we're sitting anywhere from the high 50
• 37:58
  Speaker 15: millions to Greg Bovino says it's over 100 million illegal.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: Aliens in America. We're drowning and our demographics are being destroyed.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: And we're losing our country, frankly. America doesn't feel very
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: American to me anymore, quite frankly, JJ. So let me
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: ask you this. With Sleepy Joe, we saw the worst
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: immigration crisis we've ever seen. And as a consequence, we
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: reelected President Trump. Okay, there was a huge shift in
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: this country. People were fed up. Do you think the
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: same thing might happen with upcoming elections across Europe?
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: Well, they have to. They're drowning, right?
• 38:33
  Speaker 15: I think it's in Belgium, 88% of every single resident
• 38:35
  Speaker 15: under 18 is a foreigner. In Sweden, in Germany, the
• 38:42
  Speaker 15: rapes are going out of this world. So you now
• 38:45
  Speaker 15: have seen the global reset. And that's not a conspiracy theory.
• 38:48
  Speaker 15: This is their words, not mine. The global reset of moving. illiterate,
• 38:54
  Speaker 15: uneducated people from the southern hemisphere, from Africa, from the
• 38:58
  Speaker 15: Middle East, from Latin America, into predominantly white Christian nations
• 39:03
  Speaker 15: in the West to destroy it. No one's bombarding Nigeria
• 39:08
  Speaker 15: or the Sudan. No one's going to Turkestan or Iran.
• 39:11
  Speaker 15: They're all coming to our countries.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 39:14
  Speaker 15: And do you think that those 80,000 people, and I've
• 39:16
  Speaker 15: looked at these videos ad nauseum, those are the same
• 39:19
  Speaker 15: people that came to America.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: They're illiterate. They're peasants.
• 39:23
  Speaker 15: How did they determine all in one day or all
• 39:26
  Speaker 15: in one week that, hey, we're going to bonsai Spain.
• 39:29
  Speaker 15: We're going to bonsai America? Well, because it was coordinated
• 39:32
  Speaker 15: and paid for by international NGOs and our own government
• 39:36
  Speaker 15: has been showing that we fed the beast through the
• 39:41
  Speaker 15: NGOs internationally into and bring into America. We funded our
• 39:46
  Speaker 15: own demise and Same thing with Spain. They funded the
• 39:50
  Speaker 15: collapse of their sovereignty.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: It's unbelievable.
• 39:54
  Speaker 15: Then we go back to what you said earlier. Has
• 39:56
  Speaker 15: anybody been arrested? Has anybody even been questioned? No, nobody has.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Well, and here's what's troubling, too, is I don't know
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: if Spain is a giant welfare state like the United
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: States of America is, but when you open your borders
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: and you have a massive welfare state, It's a design
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: to collapse the system from within. So if I was
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: in Spain or Ireland or England or Scotland or Germany
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: or France, I would be extremely worried about that because
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: people come here, they go to those countries illegally looking
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: not to assimilate but for a handout. And that will
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: bankrupt and destroy their countries in no time.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: Well, it's destroying our country. Look at what we've done.
• 40:35
  Speaker 15: Has anybody made the correlation between the fact that we
• 40:40
  Speaker 15: have foreigners, literal people that our first generation feet are
• 40:43
  Speaker 15: wet from coming off the boat, are sitting in Congress?
• 40:46
  Speaker 15: And then we're shocked that the Somalis have a foothold
• 40:49
  Speaker 15: in Minnesota and now have a foothold in our Congress?
• 40:52
  Speaker 15: I mean, you just mentioned Ireland, for goodness sake. Do
• 40:55
  Speaker 15: you know last year Ireland's births? 94% of the births
• 40:59
  Speaker 15: in Ireland were to non-Irish people.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: It's over.
• 41:03
  Speaker 15: This is a demographic time bomb, and America is sitting
• 41:06
  Speaker 15: on her own time bomb.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: Think of this.
• 41:08
  Speaker 15: Our women are not even reproducing at the 2.1 rate
• 41:12
  Speaker 15: that's needed to sustain our society. We're below the 1.6.
• 41:16
  Speaker 15: We're at 1.5 and dying. At the same time, we
• 41:18
  Speaker 15: brought in 50 million illegal aliens per UN data are
• 41:22
  Speaker 15: having babies five times the replacement rate.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: This is a bad math problem and we will lose.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Agreed completely. Let me mention some other stories just on
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: the same note because there are a few that have
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: caught my eye. Number one, there are reports out of
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Spain This is extremely interesting to me. Their socialist prime minister,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Pedro Sanchez, that's his name, there are reports out there
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: that he knew this invasion was coming and chose not
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: to do anything. Now his government's coming out and telling
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Spain's Congress that they have absolutely nothing to hide over
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: their response to the crisis in Ceuta. What are your
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: thoughts about that one, J.J.
• 41:59
  Speaker 15: Well, of course, he's compromised, just like Joe Biden and
• 42:02
  Speaker 15: the congressmen and senators that are sitting right now in
• 42:06
  Speaker 15: our halls of power.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: They're compromised. They have to be. There's no other explanation.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: Why would you open your borders?
• 42:13
  Speaker 15: Why would you allow 80,000 people to bonsai a nation
• 42:16
  Speaker 15: or a city or town that only has 80,000 people?
• 42:19
  Speaker 15: Why would you as Americans allow 30 million people into
• 42:23
  Speaker 15: your country.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: That we have no idea who they are?
• 42:25
  Speaker 15: The only reason you would do that is because you're
• 42:28
  Speaker 15: a traitor or you're compromised or both.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed.
• 42:31
  Speaker 15: And I want some action. And I want deportations. I
• 42:34
  Speaker 15: went back to ICE. I know exactly what's going on.
• 42:37
  Speaker 15: I was a Border Patrol for 24 years. I watched
• 42:39
  Speaker 15: this treason. I'm telling you, there are no mass deportations, none, zero, nada.
• 42:45
  Speaker 15: And that's unacceptable. That's not what I voted for. I
• 42:47
  Speaker 15: voted for with 77 to 80 more million people to
• 42:51
  Speaker 15: get these people out of our country now.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: And what Donald Trump's.
• 42:55
  Speaker 15: Doing, the greatest border president in the history of the
• 42:57
  Speaker 15: United States of America, he's failing on interior enforcement. And
• 43:01
  Speaker 15: it pains me to say that because I'm his biggest
• 43:03
  Speaker 15: supporter when it comes to immigration.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Well, and as am I. And to be fair, I
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: think there's a lot of activist judges out there. It's
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: this whole system, this whole apparatus. It's rhinos in D.C.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: It's Democrats. It's activist judges. But point made. And let
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: me get your thoughts about one more, a couple other
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: just stories along these lines. It just breaks my heart, honestly.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: So what we have going on right now, France. This
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: is really interesting, JJ. France launching a brand new task force.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: to combat migrant rubber boats crossing the channel, presumably the
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: English Channel, into the UK. That's interesting. At the same time,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: the European Union, I can't believe I'm saying this, JJ,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: the communistic EU, the globalists, striking migration deal for more
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: deportations and even more detention centers. At the same time,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: people are worried about anarchy and the collapse of the
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Schengen Agreement, European Union as a whole. So let me
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: just end it with you. Final question, JJ. because you've
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: seen this up close for decades. You've been sounding the
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: alarm bells about it. What do you think is in
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: store for the future of the EU? Is it too
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: far gone or can radical changes be made to save it?
• 44:11
  Speaker 15: It's never too far gone if you're willing to do
• 44:14
  Speaker 15: the physicality, meaning have a kinetic impact to remove these people.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: How are you going to.
• 44:19
  Speaker 15: Remove tens of millions of men that are from war-torn
• 44:22
  Speaker 15: countries that have been through hell and back, they're not
• 44:25
  Speaker 15: going to just say, okay, I'll leave. You are going
• 44:28
  Speaker 15: to physically have to pick them up, put them on
• 44:31
  Speaker 15: boats and planes and send them back. Do you, EU,
• 44:34
  Speaker 15: and do you, United States of America, do you have
• 44:37
  Speaker 15: the courage and the determination and perseverance to do that?
• 44:41
  Speaker 15: And right now, if I was forced to go all in,
• 44:44
  Speaker 15: put all my money into the middle of the table,
• 44:47
  Speaker 15: I would show my cards as the EU and the
• 44:49
  Speaker 15: United States of America do not have the ability or
• 44:53
  Speaker 15: the determination to do it. And they will both rue
• 44:56
  Speaker 15: that day that they hesitated to get these people out
• 44:59
  Speaker 15: of our country.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: We'll have to end it there, JJ, but it's alarming
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: to say the least. And I thank you for talking
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: about it. And I thank you for your time.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: Thank you for always, man. I appreciate it. Great show.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Well, folks, on a different note, a bad, bad ad
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: has left good, good golf in a very nasty, precarious situation.
• 45:19
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• 45:22
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• 45:25
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  Speaker 1: Do not touch my new driver. Word to the wise folks,
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: never get between a man and his driver. But in
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: all seriousness, that ad that you just saw right there
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: is setting the internet on fire. And I'm sure our
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: next guest has a whole lot to say about it.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: But before we bring him on tonight, allow us to
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: set the stage. Just days ago, the CEO and the
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: company president of a golf brand apparel company, they have
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: a channel on YouTube, I guess, called Good Good Golf,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: reportedly left the organization. And it's following widespread backlash to
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: the video we just saw. The backlash is ongoing, folks.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: And what was supposed to be, here's what's interesting. what
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: was supposed to be just a simple, harmless parody of
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: this new horror movie obsession, which is actually pretty good,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: sparked a level of outrage that you rarely see in golf.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: And it caused a major fallout with Callaway because they
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: were partners with this company, Good Good Golf. They were
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: both behind the ad. They both advertised it on social media.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: They both apologized for it after the backlash. And that's
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: just the tip of the iceberg. See, Callaway, just cut
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: their ties with Good Good Golf, ending a three-year-long partnership.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: And they've also committed to donating $ 1 million to organizations that,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: I guess, work to prevent violence against women, presumably because
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: critics claimed this ad made light of abuse, domestic abuse,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: against women. They've also vowed to make sure something just
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: like this never happens again. And folks, they seem very serious.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: They're putting out statements all the time, and I find
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: that interesting. Even more interesting, Good Good Golf has decided
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: to end their sponsorship of the upcoming PGA tournament in Austin,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Texas this November. They made the announcement about it last
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Thursday when this ad dropped online, and the announcement itself
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: was criticized too, with many people accusing them of just
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: cowering and caving to the woke mob, bending a knee,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: if you will. So now they're out of the PGA Tournament,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: and their partnership with Callaway, which is a multi-billion dollar
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: golf company is officially over. That's it, finito, done. Additionally though,
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: their products have also been pulled off the shelves of
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: some major sports retailers. These aren't just mom and pop shops, folks.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: We're talking about Golf Galaxy and Dick's Sporting Goods. Heck,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: even the Golf Channel postponed the premiere of a brand
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: new reboot that would have featured Good Good Golf because
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: one of their sponsors reportedly asked them to do so
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: a few days ago. And reports say that sponsor was
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Golf Galaxy. Now the question for, I guess, all of America,
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: but more importantly right now, our next guest, is this.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Was their ad really that offensive? So joining us now
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: is our friend, Kevin Smith, founder of The Loud Majority
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: and host of Loud Majority Live. Kevin, my brother, thank
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: you for being here. I'll just throw it to you, man.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, was that ad really that bad?
• 50:33
  Speaker 17: I mean, look, it wasn't good, but it wasn't, I mean,
• 50:36
  Speaker 17: it wasn't that bad. I mean, I don't know how
• 50:38
  Speaker 17: it got through. What I have to assume are several
• 50:40
  Speaker 17: layers of like production executives, but you know, every company
• 50:47
  Speaker 17: wants to ditch a brand that is currently not in
• 50:52
  Speaker 17: the favor of the people. But it seems like it's
• 50:56
  Speaker 17: drawing a little bit more controversy than I would have
• 50:58
  Speaker 17: thought just from a terrible commercial.
• 51:01
  Speaker 6: Obviously, the PGA is going to ditch them.
• 51:05
  Speaker 17: But I don't know how many people get their golf
• 51:06
  Speaker 17: clubs at Dick's Sporting Goods who are really going to
• 51:08
  Speaker 17: mind that much.
• 51:10
  Speaker 6: As you can see behind me, when you want to
• 51:12
  Speaker 6: get the crappiest pair of golf clubs on planet Earth,
• 51:14
  Speaker 6: you go to Dick's Sporting Goods. Because, you know, that's
• 51:18
  Speaker 6: just an opinion. But I don't know. It seems like
• 51:22
  Speaker 6: a bit of an overkill.
• 51:24
  Speaker 17: They made their million-dollar donation, which I hate when people
• 51:28
  Speaker 17: pay their pettance. It's like they're paying to have their
• 51:32
  Speaker 17: sins taken care of.
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: The whole thing seems a little odd to me.
• 51:38
  Speaker 17: Like a 15 second ad that I think most people
• 51:41
  Speaker 17: will forget about next week.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. And look, I'm not one to,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of controversies in sports, not just
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: golf from Tiger Woods, who I love and others. I mean,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: the stuff we've seen in the NFL and the NBA
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: and the WNBA with Caitlin Clark, basically being shoved to
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: the ground and, and you don't see the kind of
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: backlash at all. So I guess the question is why,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: why this, why this dumb ad? Why now? It wasn't funny,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: but I don't see how it's tied to abuse. So
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: just walk me through your thought process, Kev. Is there
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: something I'm missing here? What's going on? What gives?
• 52:17
  Speaker 6: Honestly, I think they're nipping it in the bud right
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: off the bat. They're getting this out of the way.
• 52:21
  Speaker 17: And then six months from now, if the company is
• 52:23
  Speaker 17: that really that popular, they'll probably bring them back. And like,
• 52:25
  Speaker 17: there's some kind of a, in, in, you know, in
• 52:28
  Speaker 17: like a drip drip kind of thing.
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 52:30
  Speaker 17: Look, I mean, but, there also has to be some
• 52:33
  Speaker 17: kind of grace. And I think we live in a,
• 52:35
  Speaker 17: we live in a society now that has no grace whatsoever.
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: They put out an ad. It was terrible. They got backlash.
• 52:41
  Speaker 6: They apologized. They paid, they lost all their brand deals
• 52:45
  Speaker 6: and all their sponsorships. Okay. I think that's enough punishment.
• 52:49
  Speaker 17: I don't think that a company that is wildly successful
• 52:53
  Speaker 17: ought to go out of business because they made one
• 52:55
  Speaker 17: bad decision, uh, talking to you new Coke.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: So, uh, you know, Yeah, look, so that's the last
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: question for you. Can you recover? Can good, good golf?
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: I never even heard of the brand, by the way,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: until this. So now they're on my radar and I
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: like golf. But the question is, can their business survive?
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Can they recover? They have a new CEO. I'm sure
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: they'll find a new president. Time will move on. People
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: will forget. The news is 24-7. But what does this
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: mean for the future of their business?
• 53:22
  Speaker 17: Honestly, I think this will be out of the news
• 53:23
  Speaker 17: cycle in like 10 minutes between the Lindsay Clancy case.
• 53:28
  Speaker 17: The war in Iran and the midterms, I don't know
• 53:31
  Speaker 17: how many people are worried about what seems like a
• 53:33
  Speaker 17: very niche golf company. Although I'm terrible at golf, so
• 53:38
  Speaker 17: maybe it's a lot bigger than I know. Maybe I
• 53:41
  Speaker 17: should watch them.
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: Maybe I wouldn't suck so bad, but who knows?
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: Well, brother, the same here. And for people who want
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: to tune into your show, I understand it's every day,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Monday through Friday. Where can they go?
• 53:53
  Speaker 17: You guys go to Rumble.com slash LFATV. I'm live at
• 53:56
  Speaker 17: 3 p.m.
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