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Alex Traiman | CEO of JNS Reports Live from Israel on FlyDubai Cockpit Attack · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: I spoke earlier today with President Trump, who really was
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  Speaker 1: appreciative of this. And he said, you know, when a
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  Speaker 1: plane is nosediving, the passengers, including 30 children, are already
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  Speaker 1: saying their prayers. I know they're gone from this world.
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  Speaker 1: And this young man just acts with incredible, incredible heroism
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  Speaker 1: and saves the day, along with the Indian pilot who
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  Speaker 1: was there and the others who came to help. But
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  Speaker 1: without his daring do, without his... his courage, we do
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  Speaker 1: face a disaster of unbelievable proportions. So just think about it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you're next hijacked. Make sure an
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  Speaker 1: Israeli is sitting next to you.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to talk right now to the news information
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  Speaker 2: source in Israel, my dear friend, the CEO of JNS.org.
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  Speaker 2: Now been on this show over 200 times since October
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  Speaker 2: 7th of 2023.
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  Speaker 3: The great Alex Treiman. Alex, good morning, buddy. How are you?
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  Speaker 4: Good morning, Sid.
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  Speaker 3: How are you doing? I'm doing well.
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  Speaker 2: So it looks like we averted a massive tragedy in
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  Speaker 2: Israel yesterday. I'm just curious because I had this conversation
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  Speaker 2: back and forth this morning. In my mind, there's no
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  Speaker 2: doubt this was a terrorist attack. Are you guys in
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  Speaker 2: Israel still trying to figure out whether that was the
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  Speaker 2: case or not?
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  Speaker 4: Well, Israel is definitely trying to figure out exactly who
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  Speaker 4: was behind this. Israeli intelligence agents are working together with
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  Speaker 4: Saudi authorities to interrogate the perpetrator of this attack, figure
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  Speaker 4: out exactly who was behind it. But they are treating
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  Speaker 4: this like a terror hijacking incident. And it comes just
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  Speaker 4: a few days after a foiled Iranian terror plot at
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  Speaker 4: an air base in the United Kingdom.
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  Speaker 3: That's right, just a couple of days after that.
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  Speaker 2: So you watch Tritium like it's a potential terrorist attack.
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  Speaker 2: The pilot that inflicted the damage and wanted to crash
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  Speaker 2: the plane, he's from.
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  Speaker 3: Iran, yes?
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  Speaker 4: He's from Oman. And actually, it's basically a violation of
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  Speaker 4: the Abraham Accords deals and this route that Dubai has,
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  Speaker 4: because they're only supposed to use pilots from Abraham Accords
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  Speaker 4: or friendly countries, and Oman certainly is not a country
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  Speaker 4: that has normalized relations with Israel.
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  Speaker 2: So somebody was telling me this morning that part of
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  Speaker 2: the blame... may fall on Israel because, and I said,
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  Speaker 2: wait a second, this wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: El Al, okay? They don't know every pilot for every airline.
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  Speaker 3: They go, no, they don't.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if you're flying into Israel, the onus is
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  Speaker 2: on Israel to know every pilot, every passenger. So if
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  Speaker 2: it turns out that this guy's got some blueprint or some,
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  Speaker 2: you know, footprints, I should say, and had discussions, or
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  Speaker 2: there was some history that he may try something like this,
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  Speaker 2: Could this fall on Israel? Could I have people around
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  Speaker 2: me telling me this was Israel's fault?
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  Speaker 4: Well, certainly everybody wants to blame Israel for everything that
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  Speaker 4: happens in the world. There are flights that are coming
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  Speaker 4: from airlines all over the world that land in Tel Aviv.
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  Speaker 4: You don't have the same kind of controls that you
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  Speaker 4: have if El Al was flying.
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  Speaker 3: That's the point I made this morning, right.
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  Speaker 4: LL stopped flying that route, by the way. LL was
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  Speaker 4: flying to Dubai and since March hasn't been flying because
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  Speaker 4: of security threats. But Israel did allow the fly Dubai
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  Speaker 4: routes and Emirates Airways to be flying back and forth.
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  Speaker 4: And Israel, I think, was generally appreciative. that this route
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  Speaker 4: was still open. And as you see, many Israelis are
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  Speaker 4: flying this route right now, just looking for either places
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  Speaker 4: to go or for places that they can use as
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  Speaker 4: a transit hub onto wherever else they're going into the east.
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  Speaker 2: So you sound like you agree with me, but El Al,
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  Speaker 2: that's a different story. You got a guy with terrorist
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  Speaker 2: aspirations flying El Al, but one of these other airlines, very,
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  Speaker 2: very hard to blame Israel, even if there was some
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  Speaker 2: history with this guy, very hard to blame.
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  Speaker 3: Israel, yes or no?
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  Speaker 4: Well, you'd think that Israel would know who the pilots
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  Speaker 4: of the plane are, and basic screening should happen. But
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  Speaker 4: as we see, sometimes you can have the best intelligence
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  Speaker 4: in the world, and you can be warning of plots.
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  Speaker 4: As Prime Minister Netanyahu said, that Israel had warned the
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  Speaker 4: British about the plot at the Air Force Base in
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  Speaker 4: the UK a couple weeks back. And still, sometimes things
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  Speaker 4: can get through. Even the best intelligence has clearly happened here.
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  Speaker 3: One hundred percent. All right.
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  Speaker 2: So let's get to actually what happened on the plane
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  Speaker 2: and what you think the pilot's intentions were. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you go back to 9-11 and very similarly, United Flight
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  Speaker 2: 93 ended up crashing in a field in Shanksville, Pennsylvania,
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  Speaker 2: because the passengers, very heroic people. We know some of
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  Speaker 2: the names, guys like Todd Beamer. We played the song earlier.
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  Speaker 2: Neil Young wrote for that called Let's Roll. And those
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  Speaker 2: passengers tried to save the day, but they couldn't.
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  Speaker 3: They couldn't.
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  Speaker 2: In this case, very similar fashion, these heroic passengers stormed
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  Speaker 2: the cockpit, and they did save the day. Give us
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  Speaker 2: the actual details on what happened on this flight yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: Well, as we mentioned, there was an Omani co-pilot on
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  Speaker 4: the plane. There was a pilot from India who was
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  Speaker 4: the pilot of the plane, and the Omani co-pilot started
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  Speaker 4: stabbing repeatedly the pilot, the primary pilot from India.
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  Speaker 2: Now, as he was stabbing him, can you confirm or deny,
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  Speaker 2: because I was told this too by a very smart
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  Speaker 2: person with intel, As he was stabbing the pilot, was
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  Speaker 2: he yelling, Allah Akbar?
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  Speaker 3: I heard he was.
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  Speaker 4: The reports are that he was yelling, Allah Akbar, and
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  Speaker 4: also saying some kind of prayer that people say before
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  Speaker 4: they become a shaheed, before they become a martyr. These
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  Speaker 4: are the reports. Obviously, it was not in the cockpit.
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  Speaker 4: We're just checking the reports that were being heard. And
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  Speaker 4: the pilot from India, he sent multiple distress symbols. the 7,500
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  Speaker 4: distress signal, and then also the 7,700 distress signal, which
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  Speaker 4: indicates hijacking. And I think that the greatest thing that
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  Speaker 4: this Indian pilot was able to do even as he
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  Speaker 4: was being stabbed, was to open the door of the
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  Speaker 4: cockpit because it's very, very difficult for anybody to get
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  Speaker 4: into a cockpit. These doors are designed to prevent hijackers
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  Speaker 4: from getting into the cockpit, which is why for a
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  Speaker 4: hijacking to be successful like this, the hijacker had to
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  Speaker 4: already be in the cockpit, which was the co-pilot. So
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  Speaker 4: he got that door open, and people heard the screaming,
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  Speaker 4: and several Israelis actually charged the cockpit. Obviously, it was
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  Speaker 4: a flight going to Israel, so there were many Israelis
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  Speaker 4: on board. the flight primarily Israelis, and they managed to
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  Speaker 4: subdue the co-pilot, and one of them actually pulled on
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  Speaker 4: the stick during the free fall and was able to
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  Speaker 4: somehow or another just pull it back and get the
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  Speaker 4: plane to sort of balance out. I think that the
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  Speaker 4: great fortune, when you talk about the Flight 93, crashing.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know that this plane would have been able
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  Speaker 4: to avoid crashing if it wasn't for the fact that
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  Speaker 4: there was a backup crew on the back of the plane.
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  Speaker 4: There were pilots sitting in the back. And so they
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  Speaker 4: also got up to the front and they were able
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  Speaker 4: to get inside the cockpit and actually stabilize this plane
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  Speaker 4: and land it, which is also miraculous because the plane
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  Speaker 4: did suffer damage during its freefall nosedive. And they still
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  Speaker 4: managed to be able to stabilize that plane and get
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  Speaker 4: it safely down at an airport inside Saudi Arabia.
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  Speaker 3: Remarkable. Yeah, they lost the rudder. I mean, the plane
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  Speaker 3: actually dropped. This is unbelievable. 14,000 feet. You ready for this?
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  Speaker 2: In 30 seconds. These poor people must have thought they'd
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  Speaker 2: be dead in minutes.
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  Speaker 3: And they were. They were yelling.
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  Speaker 2: They were screaming. Some were davening. Some were telling their children,
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  Speaker 2: I love you. You know, it was just horrible. And
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  Speaker 2: like you said, thank God for the other crew in
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  Speaker 2: the back of the plane. And the hero of this story,
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  Speaker 2: I guess, turns out to be a plumber.
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  Speaker 3: Is that right?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Naif Ayoun, an Israeli plumber who stormed the cockpit.
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  Speaker 4: I think he suffered some superficial injuries as well. And
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  Speaker 4: he first managed to get that pilot out, like choke-holded
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  Speaker 4: him and got him out of the cockpit. And then
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  Speaker 4: he said that he had been watching one of these
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  Speaker 4: air disaster video series. He watched that and he just
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  Speaker 4: instinctively knew that he should try to pull on that
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  Speaker 4: flight stick and pull it up and see if the
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  Speaker 4: plane would respond to that. And that's what happened.
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  Speaker 2: And I love B.B. Netanyahu so much. It's no secret.
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  Speaker 2: I want to see him speak at the U.N. I
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  Speaker 2: defend him all day, every day. I just sent a
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  Speaker 2: message to a beer fork. I said, he was on
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  Speaker 2: with Hannity last night. He's about to go on with
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  Speaker 2: Kill Me This Morning.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not even going to bother you, okay? I'm not. But.
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  Speaker 2: We are less than a week away now from the
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  Speaker 2: third commemoration of October 7th, and that's the day he
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  Speaker 2: needs to.
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  Speaker 3: Be on with me, okay? Not Hannity, not Kilmeade with me.
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  Speaker 2: They can have him today. This is a huge story,
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  Speaker 2: no doubt about it. But I want the prime minister
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  Speaker 2: coming up in a couple of days. I do want
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  Speaker 2: to get to that day, but before we do, the
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  Speaker 2: prime minister making sure he was there.
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  Speaker 3: To greet these heroes. What a great scene that was, right?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely, and it did. to that, President Herzog has
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  Speaker 4: announced that he wants to bestow presidential medals of honor
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  Speaker 4: on four of the Israelis who were involved in getting
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  Speaker 4: that pilot subdued and out of the cockpit. So there
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  Speaker 4: was many Israelis. It wasn't just one. There were at
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  Speaker 4: least four Israelis that were present And I think that
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  Speaker 4: that's really the Israeli way. Israelis are trained as part
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  Speaker 4: of their military training. But even aside from those in
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  Speaker 4: military training, they don't run from the scene. They actually
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  Speaker 4: run toward the scene. That's what Israelis do when there's
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  Speaker 4: a problem, when there's an injury, when there's an attack,
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  Speaker 4: when there's a fire. Israelis run toward it. And that's
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  Speaker 4: the reason why they were able to, in a moment's notice,
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  Speaker 4: you know, rescue the flight. I think it had been
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  Speaker 4: 30 seconds more before they were able to get that
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  Speaker 4: pilot out of the cockpit and try to stabilize the
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  Speaker 4: flight trajectory. You know, I don't think that the plane
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  Speaker 4: would have made it.
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  Speaker 2: And we have no idea where this guy wanted to
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  Speaker 2: crash the plane, right?
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  Speaker 4: We don't know yet. Yeah, we don't know if he
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  Speaker 4: just wanted to simply take it down wherever he was
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  Speaker 4: or if he wanted to cross into Israeli airspace. crash
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  Speaker 4: it onto the ground or whether he wanted to crash
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  Speaker 4: it into a tower in Tel Aviv and replicate a
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  Speaker 4: September 11th-style attack. We actually crashed into a building. These
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  Speaker 4: are the types of things that the Israeli intelligence, the Mossad,
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  Speaker 4: is going to be actively working to figure out, together
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  Speaker 4: with the Saudi intelligence authorities, whether this was a lone wolf,
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  Speaker 4: whether there was a deeper plan, other terror operatives that
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  Speaker 4: were part of this. Again, the question of who got
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  Speaker 4: that knife on board. whether that was the pilot, whether
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  Speaker 4: somebody else had smuggled it on. These are all questions
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  Speaker 4: that Israel is going to have to try to answer
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  Speaker 4: in the next coming days.
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  Speaker 2: And next coming days, today is October the 1st, so
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  Speaker 2: we are just six days away, Alex. We just commemorated
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  Speaker 2: 25 years of 9-11 here in New York City a
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago. Now, you guys, your 9-11 was
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  Speaker 2: October the 7th. You guys are coming up on three
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  Speaker 2: years in six days. So I'll ask you what I
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  Speaker 2: ask a lot of the New York politicians in and
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  Speaker 2: around 9-11.
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  Speaker 3: Does it feel like three years, or does it feel
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  Speaker 3: like yesterday?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'd say we've been in a time warp, and
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  Speaker 4: it's kind of like the second time warp because we
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  Speaker 4: had COVID, and then the feeling was we were just
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  Speaker 4: coming out of COVID during the Sukkot Festival, which we're
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  Speaker 4: in now, right before October 7th. October 7th was the
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  Speaker 4: last day of our festival, and it was the first
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  Speaker 4: time three years ago that tourists were finally back in
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  Speaker 4: the country, and the feeling was finally Israel's back after
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  Speaker 4: this horrific incident. period, time warp, which was COVID. And
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  Speaker 4: then sure enough, just a few days later, we get
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  Speaker 4: into this next time warp. We all thought that this
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  Speaker 4: was going to be an operation that might have lasted
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  Speaker 4: several weeks, you know, as previous operations had, that some
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  Speaker 4: deal would have been cut very quickly. You know, we
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  Speaker 4: hope to get back all the hostages. But as we saw,
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  Speaker 4: the war opened up on multiple fronts. And we're three
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  Speaker 4: years later, but we're still fighting. Yes, we're not in
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  Speaker 4: the same type of active military operations as we were
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  Speaker 4: at certain points during this war. But Israel this week,
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  Speaker 4: you know, continues to strike at Hamas commanders in the
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  Speaker 4: Gaza Strip. This week, Israel continues to strike at terror
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  Speaker 4: positions inside southern Lebanon, which are held by Hezbollah. And
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  Speaker 4: I think most every Israeli recognizes that the war, the
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  Speaker 4: direct war between Israel and Iran, which is the overall
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  Speaker 4: state sponsor of all these terror operatives and organizations across
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  Speaker 4: the Middle East, that that war is not finished. And
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  Speaker 4: we hear President Trump talking about how after the midterm
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  Speaker 4: elections that he's going to have to make a decision,
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  Speaker 4: the Iranians are going to have to make a decision.
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  Speaker 4: I think every Israeli believes that that there's going to
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  Speaker 4: be a return to kinetic warfare between the United States, Israel,
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  Speaker 4: and Iran.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I believe.
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  Speaker 2: Well, listen, an amazing day again for the Israelis showing
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  Speaker 2: the world how resilient and courageous they are.
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  Speaker 3: Just an unbelievable, remarkable story.
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  Speaker 2: The epitome of heroism, all these passengers, mostly Israeli, on
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  Speaker 2: that flight yesterday. Always great to speak with you, Alex.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk again, obviously, in six days. 43-year commemoration.
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  Speaker 3: Stay safe.
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  Speaker 2: I love you guys. We'll do it again soon. Great
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  Speaker 2: job this morning. Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, Sid. Great to be with you.
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  Speaker 3: God bless you.
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  Speaker 2: Alex Treyman right there, the G, I should say. He's
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  Speaker 2: the man at JNS.org, the CEO. You want information on Israel,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's this flight yesterday, like he talked about, ongoing
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  Speaker 2: military activity in Gaza or Lebanon. The only place to go,
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  Speaker 2: the only place to go is JNS.org.
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  Speaker 3: What the heck is going on here?