Heart vs. Head: How to Actually Get Things Done in a Diverse Democracy with the Civity Founders

In Reality · Jul 21, 2026 · 41m

Welcome to In Reality, the podcast about truth, disinformation and

the media with host Eric Schurenberg, long time journalist,

now the founder of the Alliance for Trust in Media.

Over the years, he's interviewed a number of people from the so-

called bridge-building community. They’ve been researchers like

Matt Levendusky of University of Pennsylvania, Journalists like

Amanda Ripley, bridge builders like Monica Guzman, all

convinced that things would be better if Americans could just stop

demonizing their neighbors. Let’s stipulate that’s a worthy goal.

Still, all of these movements face a…