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Total Archery Challenge review from a first time participant! · The Bow Disciples Podcast

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  Jeezo, Pete. Well, welcome back.
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  New podcast, BDP episode 37 or something.
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  I don't know how many episodes, but the good news is that we got
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  some new additions to the pod studio.
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  Look at this freaking Bute over here.
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  You know, temporary spot, but I'm jacked up on it.
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  Super jacked up on it Joey. Cheers bud.
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  We got these so story behind these ciders.
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  We were at a event sitting in the Bow and Arrow shop booth,
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  and the girl next to us was running the bivouac cider booth.
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  And I got to chatting with her, got to bring a possible job
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  lead, which is great. And we go to leave, right?
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  And I go, hey, can I grab a couple of those to take home?
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  She goes, do you just want to take off a whole case?
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  And I go, huh? She goes, you want to just take
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  a whole case home? I go, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah.
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  So of course, I walked to the car with a whole case.
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  So shout out to Bimouac. I think you your inquiry on
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  bringing a couple home was a little bit less understandable
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  than how you made it seem right there, but yeah.
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  Yeah, it was a little. A little more slurs.
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  Yeah, a little. More slurs.
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  I will say, you know, I, I, you know, I'm, I'm having a lot of
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  sober days this year where 0 beverages, but at a party, I'm
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  still, of course I'm, I'm still down to party.
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  So that day, you know, I had been on, on the wagon for, for a
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  while and just went after it. And then she offers free ciders
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  and like, just lead the horse to water, why don't you?
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  So I ended up getting the just a little bit saucy, nothing crazy,
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  you know? On the wagon for a while.
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  Three days, Three days. Hey, it's not bad, dude.
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  Pennsylvania was so much fun. So yeah, so we do have a guest,
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  Joey, The he probably gives me a run for my money as the group
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  degenerate. You know, it's either me or him,
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  but I think he might have I. Think I'd take that case.
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  I think he did I. Think you do fan favorite.
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  Oh, we got to turn my light on. Reach over.
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  You know what? It's not even in the shot.
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  It's not in the shot. Never mind.
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  You could still flip it on, though.
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  But anyway, a kid made me. There's a little switch.
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  Gotcha. So let's talk about Joey.
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  So Joey been, I don't know, probably in a half dozen videos
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  at this point on the channel, if if not more so, you know,
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  somewhat channel regular, but. It's clearly been an impact
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  someone wanted to take. A picture great story we'll get
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  to that. But PA was your first tack
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  right? Yep, and Brianna had a great
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  idea of having a first time tack shooter on on the pod so.
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  Made it so much more than that because it's like it's not just
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  his first tack, but it's like that.
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  Correct me if I'm wrong, is that your first also like 3D shoe out
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  of state as well? Yeah.
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  Yeah. So I mean.
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  Yeah, quite a few different things.
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  Quite a few firsts, but why don't you tell me you kind of
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  got put in the game late. You were basically a pinch
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  hitter on the trip, you know what I mean?
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  Yeah, one of the guys went on the injured list and we needed a
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  fill in. So you.
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  You sound. Making it sound.
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  Like, no, no, not so with like 2 weeks left, you just friggin and
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  said yeah, I'll do it. Which is a bold move, yeah.
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  So what was your initial? Audible move that weekend.
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  To add on to that though, like before the tax season even
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  started, I did mention to you like, hey, if you have any
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  openings, let me know. I'm I'll, yeah, I'll hop on.
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  Absolutely. Given back then I was employed,
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  had a good job before I got fired.
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  So we got two people. On the couch, on the job hunt,
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  right? Now, yeah, two jobless people.
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  At least he makes money on the side right now.
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  I just don't like, I do not want to go back working for myself.
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  It's just too much, too much foot, manual labor and trying to
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  grow this gut out, you know? Yeah, you got to get the dad bod
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  really going, you know? Yeah.
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  Yeah, so I got the shade style guy.
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  Oh yeah, I was. So I was saying that at the
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  party, at the party this weekend, all three of us had the
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  really cool. You know, we look so cool, all
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  of us just glasses hanging. Yeah.
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  We the. Real bride, yours were hanging
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  on by barbed wire. You know how you do it.
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  That's badass. So tell me, tell me what your
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  thoughts were when you got the call and you said, yeah, put me
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  in, coach. What?
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  What were you kind of thinking? Well, the first thing was, how
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  the hell am I going to pay for this?
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  But so Brooke actually ended up I talked to Brooks, asked her if
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  it was something that we can make work because at the time we
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  didn't have the coffee trailer open full time at Print Akanas.
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  So I'm usually the taxi, I'll drive it to and from events.
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  And she had a few events like booked for that week.
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  But once we opened the coffee trailer up full time, it was had
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  to put it on cinder blocks. I'm like, unless it's for a
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  specific dollar amount, I'm not going to be throwing tires on
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  and off to haul that thing to and from, you know, this tanch
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  work. But so she decided that she
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  wanted to keep it stationary and and just in its permanent
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  location. And I told her about the the
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  offer for the shoe. She told me to send her the
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  flight details. And so she ended up paying for
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  my ticket. Shout out to my sugar Mama.
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  Nice. I love it, dude, I love it.
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  So that was that was a real cool, cool surprise or slash
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  gift that she gave me. It was kind of like a thank you
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  for for taxiing her to in front of her advance.
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  Dude, she's been killing it with with.
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  Oh yeah. She killed it at BD three baby.
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  Yeah, I mean everybody that tries her coffee.
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  I mean, you told me if I'm wrong, but they're just.
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  It's. Delicious.
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  Once you go black, you never go back, baby.
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  I do love black espresso blinds fire I do.
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  This, I don't know this blueberry one right now.
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  Was it good? It's so good, why don't you do
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  it? If this isn't on the menu, she
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  needs to add it to the menu. So she made it like a what, like
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  a TikTok or Instagram reel Post it while we were in
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  Pennsylvania. I showed you and I'm like to
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  this just looks so good. It's delicious.
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  So she needs to get like a a board that she could like, you
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  know, if she's ever like trying out new things or whatever.
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  And it's not on the main like a menu thing that like people can
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  see so they know what like creative new options or
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  currently if it's ever like something that's not on the
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  menu, but it's like, I could make this right now.
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  I got the supplies in the trailer or something that they
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  could also see it. It's a lot of people.
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  Like you get like 3 things at a coffee shop.
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  Either it's on the menu or your coffee connoisseur and you've
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  got your own concoction that you can just stout off and usually a
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  shop can make it or three. Because coffee people are
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  creative. They usually have some drinks
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  that they know but are not on their menu.
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  It's like a secret menu almost or just a sign that says like
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  ask about the secret menu. And that way if it's not
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  something that like she makes all the time, they have an
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  option like ask what's available because.
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  Dude, she's like the Walter White of coffee.
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  Crazy coffee. It's insane.
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  But to get back on track. Coffee it's.
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  So hard it is, but a shout out to That's right, Brooks.
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  Cafe Brooks Cafe, It's at America Pernicanos.
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  It's how's the? What's the How do you say the
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  word? It's Pernicanos Italian
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  restaurant, so if you're a local it's right across from the El
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  Cajon Ford dealership. Best coffee you'll have, and I
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  mean. 1000 first. Time everybody falls in love
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  with her when they meet her so she's just the sweetest, most
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  genuine person that if they can walks the face of this earth so.
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  She is so anyways not to so sugar baby Mama, baby Mama, she
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  is a sugar baby Mama right now. So all of those things.
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  No spoiler alerts, but. Yeah, so she she gives you a
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  flight. Gives me a flight, decided to
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  send it show up with Scott, James, Bree for sister Brittany
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  and then I'm told I'm going to be rooming with the one and only
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  MFJJI. Never met the guy before.
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  I mean other than like just saying what's up in the
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  photosciple shoes? And it went from like supposed
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  to be 4 dudes in that room to like just.
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  So we had a very intimate night together the first night.
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  Nice. Not intimate enough for him to
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  remember my name, but. That's funny.
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  I always, you know, sometimes, like, should I put my ear to the
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  door and see if they're like, you know, having little fireside
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  chats in their room at night from across the bunks or.
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  I do love a little. Like there's so much room for
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  activities. I do love a bedtime chat with a
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  pal when you're like sharing a room and you're like, I know
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  you're, hey, what a nice day. You're just going back and
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  forth. Oh, so I heard he says that he
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  snores, but I've never heard it. So it's not that bad.
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  It's not that. Bad.
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  Not like James's gutter old freaking dude.
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  That was like coming from the depths of like Valhalla or
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  something. It was insane that last night
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  in, in Pittsburgh, you know, really kept warning me like, or
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  like threatening me not to. I said I'm going to put him in
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  your bed. It's your call if you get him
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  too late like he is yours for the night.
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  It won't save me much, but at least get it more than like 2
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  feet from my ear. With that being said, if anyone
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  who watches the show happens to work for a CPAP company, go
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  ahead and reach out and let's get me cooking.
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  I would love it. So that would be sick.
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  Another theme. I'm kind of we're jumping back
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  and forth, but I'm going to I'm going to flash forward a little
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  bit. We, we kind of, you know, we got
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  on a kick on the trip about Jager bombs, Jager bombs, Jager
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  bombs, Jager bombs, and we ended up having.
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  Quite a fair. Amount a few Jager bombs.
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  I haven't had them since I think that video originally surfaced,
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  yeah, back in what, 2012 or 2013, I think I said.
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  It was like 07. Yeah, because that was a re
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  upload. The original was like 07/08,
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  like one of the first videos on YouTube.
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  Yeah, my new haircut. If you guys don't know what
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  we're talking about, go on YouTube and look up my new
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  haircut and it's this total freaking fool bag Guido dude
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  from like Jersey or something that just absolutely broke the
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  Internet when that thing came out.
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  That and drinking out of cups. Do you remember that video?
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  I don't even seen that one drinking out of cups.
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  It's a. Lizard that it's like this dude
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  made it when he was tripping on acid or something and he just
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  like does a voice over for this like real, almost like
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  claymation video of this gecko. It was what are you the fucking
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  tree Meister? Oh, Mr. Walkway, Mr. Lead me to
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  the building. It's just, if you know what I'm
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  talking about, YouTube. Originate somewhere in the
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  ghetto of like the northeastern line cities or something.
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  Why does all these very original like OG YouTube come from
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  apparently like? The.
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  East Coast, real strong accents. Yeah, it's all like real heavy,
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  like New York accents, but I cannot believe you guys haven't
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  seen. That no, I have not.
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  I need to watch it. Absolutely.
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  So anyway, we get there, you find out, you know, you're,
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  you're rooming with jobs. How did you?
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  Bring up the Jager. Pause.
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  Was that just a fun factor? It was about our the snoring
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  story that the Jager bomb. Basically what?
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  Oh, it doesn't lead to your snoring, but it definitely, you
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  know, enhances. It's a little fuel on the fire
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  or. It's there regardless.
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  You're lucky to join with the rumblement shots, dude.
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  When I get hammered, I just pound those things.
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  It's like a Peppermint Patty shot, but it's actually, it is
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  so good. It actually.
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  Smelled great. I did.
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  I did sniff it and I might even give it a sip at that one place.
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  Yeah, it was. Oh man.
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  I love Pittsburgh. On a side note, I really like
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  Pittsburgh. I like the architecture.
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  The, I guess community, if you will, is kind of disappointing
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  given how historic that city is and how kind of woke the culture
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  has just been overtaken by woke culture.
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  Like seeing those churches from like the early 1800s just
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  littered with pride flags is it's just disrespectful.
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  I mean, I'm a huge Christian, so.
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  I just thought you just got that, guys.
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  Yeah, yeah. Very exciting.
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  You beat James to it. At this point, I'm just I'm
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  going to wait to do it with James Junior One.
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  Junior. Though, So yeah, but but yeah,
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  so we show up, you find a roommate and we're shooting the
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  next day at I believe it was 2:30.
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  So we're slated to shoot Jack links.
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  OK, Now we pull up at 10 to do a little practice shooting sign in
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  things like that on a Thursday because that's a that's a four
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  day shoot. So we show up Thursday.
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  What did you what was your first impression of parking, walking
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  into the vendor village, all that stuff the check in like
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  just kind of get. The invite to yourself.
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  Yeah, give me a little summation of your.
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  Village. Well the vendor we pull up and
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  was the parking lot full the first?
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  No, we we were last past the end of the parking the first day.
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  Every other day we, well, besides the last day anyways,
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  get the ass into the parking and I'm just, I look down and see
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  all these booths and trailers set up and I'm like, dude, these
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  are all companies that I've like been like interested in their
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  products, but it's you can't really get a look at them
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  online. You know, you just have a
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  picture. You can't hold your hands, you
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  know, you can't meet the people behind the product.
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  So as soon as I saw all that dude, I felt like a kid at
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  Disneyland. And I told Brooke the same
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  thing. I'm like, dude, this is like the
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  happiest place on Earth for me and like just filled with
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  excitement to walk in there and I'm walking in with like
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  legends, you know, like you're huge.
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  You and Josh had equally the same amount of interactions.
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  I mean, and it's, it's cool to see because before we were
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  friends, I was a fan and met you at BDC 2 officially and our
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  friendship podcast. I think we met.
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  I was fondling those. I actually, I think the first
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  time we actually met was at Alpine.
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  I thought so the first. Time I met you was at not this
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  last, obviously not this last flying pig, but the flying pig
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  before. That was the first time I've saw
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  you in person because I've only been shooting for like about 2
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  1/2 years. But as soon as I started
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  shooting, I was just look like I am.
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  I like to tinker. If if I get really involved in a
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  hobby, I like to know the insurance and outs of it.
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  I like to freaking experiment, whatnot.
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  So I hop on YouTube like when I start working for myself.
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  That's how I taught myself how to do all the remodeling I did
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  was mainly through YouTube. Yeah, better than college.
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  So I come across your videos and exactly how you kind of brand
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  yourself. You're the fun, like your videos
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  are the fun of archery because I, I had no idea what archery
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  was. You know, I'm shooting 15 yards
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  in my backyard with my bow and I'm freaking I think, oh dude,
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  I'm so good at this. I got a group like this freaking
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  at 15 yards and then I go make it a little bit longer of a
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  range at like 40 and I can't even hit the target half the
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  time. So like, it's just a such a
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  humbling sport. But yeah, so like I said, we
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  were, I was a fan of yours before we became friends.
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  So walking in, it just felt super surreal to be side by side
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  with two people that I've been watching since I got into the
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  sport. Yeah.
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  And seeing the interaction, like it was really cool.
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  And like I told you, I don't know how you keep such a humble
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  personality. You're just just the humble
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  popper, Sir. Dude he he says the best humble
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  popper in the video. Coming up Wednesday.
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  But yeah, was that, like, was that kind of surprising to you,
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  the amount of people that would, like, come up to me and Josh,
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  like, were you expecting that or does that, like, catch you off
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  guard a little? I I mean, I knew it was going to
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  be present. I had no idea to the extent that
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  it actually was but and dude like you guys just absolutely
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  spoiled me and I can't thank you guys enough for even having me
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  on that trip. No dude, you're you're a treat
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  to have. Well, we've never stayed
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  anywhere overnight, you know, So it's like, all right, you guys
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  are rolling the dice on this guy freaking.
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  We're going to, I mean, we're going to be living to go there
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  for the next almost a week. Because we added days at the end
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  to vacation a little bit, which but I got so much shit I want to
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  get to. So let's jump into let's jump
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  into there's a part I'm definitely not missing in this
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  pod that I'm going to get to, but I definitely so I remember
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  like my first tack ever in 2019, right?
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  And I remember showing up to the first shooting cone.
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  I remember the target like yesterday.
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  I remember the shot and I show up and I remember for some
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  reason just being so nervous, like people are around, you know
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  what I mean? It's like, Oh my God, there's
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  like people everywhere. And then I shoot at I think it
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  was a Panther target at like it was far.
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  It was like 80. It was like 80 yards or
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  something, right? And I, I just farm it, shoot
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  over it, right? First target ever at a tac.
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  I'm pretty sure I missed if I remember correctly.
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  And what happened was at the time.
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  And This is why I recommend TAC so much for people, especially
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  the ones at higher elevation. I learned in that trip that like
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  I need to cut a bunch of yardage at 10,000 feet and I didn't know
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  that. So like at 80 yards, I didn't
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  really miss the shot, but my arrow was this much higher than
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  normal because of the elevation. And you don't get that in
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  Pennsylvania or Oklahoma, some of these other ones.
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  But that's the really cool part about doing your Montana's, your
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  Utah's or Colorado's because it helps to teach you about
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  elevation a lot and just about your shooting overall.
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  So that's another reason I really like the events.
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  What was elevation? Where was your first tuck at?
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  Was it? Called Park City.
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  Park City and the elevation, you said it was like 10,000.
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  Probably almost 10, like somewhere between 8:00 and
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  10:00. Yeah.
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  And made a huge difference. And now of course I know that
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  and with shout out to Precision Cut again, you can just dial
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  that into your tape. Incredible.
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  I've sat there and just messed around just to see the
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  difference between like sea level 1000 feet for again, 3000
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  feet and there really isn't a difference until you hit about
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  5006 once you get to like 8. Like if you're going from 3000
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  feet to 6000 feet, I mean, you might see like a yard or two
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  difference at like 110 yards. Because I've printed out the
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  site tapes and saw them right next to each other just to see
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  the difference. Because on the, on the computer
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  screen, it looks like a significant difference.
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  But that when you click between the two, but then when you put
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  them side by side and they're actually the scale, it's like
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  half a yard. But once you get to like 8000
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  feet, then you start seeing that difference change around like
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  about 40 to 50 yards. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  And then by the time you're at 100, it could be 4 yards.
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  Yeah. So a lot when we went to
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  Colorado for that, OK, I printed out Drew and mine site tapes for
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  I think I printed them out for like 12 or 13,000 feet.
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  The highest elevation we were at was 15 five.
• 21:20
  And the site tape that I had on my bow was for Laguna, which was
• 21:24
  like I had it set at like 5500 feet and I forgot my site tapes
• 21:30
  up at the house I like I was looking for him everywhere.
• 21:33
  I couldn't find him and Drew had his.
• 21:36
  But I ended up freaking getting a shot opportunity on and out
• 21:39
  for the first time and sealed it over his back.
• 21:42
  So I'm going to blame it on not having the correct side tape.
• 21:46
  It's not nerds. Or anything.
• 21:47
  It wasn't shooting for 40 yards when he was actually at 28
• 21:50
  yards. It was a side tape.
• 21:52
  OK so anyway the reason I wanted to tell my story is because I
• 21:56
  remember that anxiety and nerves of my first target ever an
• 22:00
  attack. So I want to know you're already
• 22:02
  a shaky. Mask.
• 22:02
  You don't want to know, You already know.
• 22:04
  Tell. Me.
• 22:05
  So tell me when we pull up to that Sasquatch shot, our very
• 22:08
  first shot ever on attack worked for you and it's Jack Links,
• 22:12
  right? What were you pretty?
• 22:14
  Were you pretty nervous to pull it back and RIP it?
• 22:16
  I was nervous the entire time I was shooting.
• 22:21
  Like I'm shooting with, I'm pretty comfortable shooting with
• 22:26
  you now with you and Bree. But shooting with Jeff, Jeff's a
• 22:30
  freaking ringer. Josh is a freaking legend.
• 22:36
  You know, he's a hell of a shooter.
• 22:39
  And I shoot I think second or third you, you go up.
• 22:42
  I think Brittany or Bree shoots and then I go up and I neared
• 22:47
  your shot. You hit it.
• 22:50
  What left nipple? I hit it right nipple and I was
• 22:52
  like, thank God I hit the target, let alone freaking
• 22:55
  basically the same shot James had just mirrored.
• 22:58
  So I was like, all right, really?
• 23:01
  We pull up, dude. I mean, I think it's on Josh's
• 23:07
  channel, his video that it was either a video or a short that
• 23:13
  they put out. But I hand Scott my phone to I'm
• 23:18
  showing them the mantis X10 my my shot tracker.
• 23:21
  It shows like your stability and scores view accordingly.
• 23:26
  And I've never like scored like lower than like 8089.
• 23:30
  I want to say it for you. No, I'll say 86 is probably like
• 23:33
  my worst score I've ever had on that dude.
• 23:36
  This thing had to have been like a 62 like I didn't.
• 23:40
  I didn't see the shot record, but when I saw the short on
• 23:44
  YouTube, Dodds is filming his phone screen or my phone screen
• 23:50
  when Scott's holding the phone and this thing's going like
• 23:54
  like, and this is that this is holding like usually like it
• 23:58
  moves around and then you drop back and you see it drop in and
• 24:02
  then you see the pin just settle and like it'll move like kind of
• 24:06
  like real slowly. Mine looked like freaking 9.7 on
• 24:12
  the Richter scale. Dude was like and then brakes,
• 24:17
  you know, it's a freaking absolute spas and a hat.
• 24:21
  And that was the energy I had like the entire freaking weekend
• 24:26
  because it wasn't like all right, first time shooting with
• 24:29
  this group get through the 1st course all right, nerves settle.
• 24:36
  No, it's freaking second courses with a whole new group of guys
• 24:39
  that are freaking legends in the industry.
• 24:41
  And so the the nerves were just peaked the entire time.
• 24:44
  Dude I I was in bed for two days after that time getting back
• 24:47
  just for recovery. You are smoked.
• 24:50
  I could see by the time we're at the ball game, I was like, this
• 24:52
  dude is smoked right now and we're all smoked.
• 24:55
  But but yeah, so, OK, so let's think about it.
• 24:58
  So we shot Jack Links, then we shot RMEF our second time.
• 25:03
  Ultra view, no Ultra view, Ultra View and then RMEF and then
• 25:07
  Brian. And then Brian, so we shot 4
• 25:09
  courses. Which which course would you say
• 25:14
  was your favorite of the four that we did?
• 25:18
  As far as technical shots go, so I'm a huge fan of the window
• 25:23
  shots. Like the tighter the shot, like
• 25:25
  I like it if I have like a 10% chance of making that window
• 25:29
  shot, you know, like I just love those super challenging,
• 25:32
  difficult, like if you hit the target, it's impressive shots.
• 25:35
  You know, I think Ultra View had the most of those.
• 25:39
  And on top of that is pouring rain.
• 25:41
  Luckily we didn't get the brunt of it because we were under a
• 25:44
  pretty thick canopy, but we still got sucked.
• 25:46
  Oh yeah. That was probably my favorite.
• 25:49
  I was probably the least nervous there because I was around
• 25:52
  mostly friends. And then Jeff, who I met for the
• 25:57
  first time this weekend, I thought I was friends with them.
• 25:59
  Like I listened to one of his podcasts and like I knew the guy
• 26:04
  and I could have swore that I like met him at like one of your
• 26:07
  shoots or something. Oh, really?
• 26:09
  Well, what's up, dude? How you been?
• 26:10
  And he goes, good. I was like, you Remember Me?
• 26:12
  He goes now yourself. Didn't I meet you somewhere?
• 26:15
  He goes no. Shout out to Jeff, Jeff.
• 26:19
  Jeff is a really, really cool guy.
• 26:21
  I had a lot of fun to shoot with him.
• 26:25
  Yeah, my favorite course. Shit, man.
• 26:26
  I mean, I to be honest, I I thought Prime was a lot.
• 26:30
  Or I mean, I thought all of them were fun, but I thought the elk
• 26:33
  one was actually pretty cool. That's my second I.
• 26:35
  Really like the elk course. I think there's something to a
• 26:38
  15 target course that I just love, and that's why some of
• 26:41
  these changes that we're going to be making for the challenge
• 26:44
  next year, like I'm excited for because 25 or 20 is fine, but I
• 26:50
  really think the sweet spot for a course length is somewhere
• 26:53
  between 15 and 20 targets, in my opinion.
• 26:56
  I think that's perfect. If they're gapped out enough,
• 26:59
  yeah. So you get some like scenic
• 27:01
  walks and stuff. And I think that's what makes it
• 27:03
  good. If it's a quick, short 15, then
• 27:06
  I'm like, I wish, you know, there could have been more.
• 27:09
  But when you get those walks that are creative, whether
• 27:11
  you're like going around rocks or upstate, you know, cliffy
• 27:16
  things or stuff like that, I think that can make a short
• 27:20
  course great. I I still loved the prime
• 27:25
  course, but I think it's because it was the most similar.
• 27:27
  I love the technical courses. Those are my favorite.
• 27:32
  Did you feel like just standing up taters or you know, undecided
• 27:36
  on things in life right now? He's getting too cozy.
• 27:39
  It's about to fall. He's going to get AMC here soon.
• 27:41
  He'll jump down, he'll pace around, come stare at people.
• 27:45
  There you go. There he's a.
• 27:47
  Good look too, he's with. It Abby, he's a sweetheart, but
• 27:50
  I like the prime one just because it was the best
• 27:53
  experience. You got.
• 27:54
  To like the mountain courses, you know, like that's most
• 28:01
  relatable still on a minute scale, but most relatable to
• 28:06
  some of the bigger courses you see at Utah and Montana that
• 28:10
  really like utilize the mountain would they just don't have the
• 28:17
  type of mountains that Utah and Montana have but.
• 28:20
  Well, they found like the biggest hill in Pennsylvania and
• 28:24
  you shoot down it like that. That one shot, the one where
• 28:28
  it's basically a drop off. Oh, the bison.
• 28:30
  The bison. You shoot down it and I think
• 28:33
  that was like 100 and like 405 yard shot go down, wasn't a pull
• 28:40
  and return, but then you go immediately to the right and
• 28:44
  then you're just shooting up that same mountain.
• 28:47
  It's all pull and returns. It seemed like they really used
• 28:51
  a lot of or utilized that mountain to get you.
• 28:53
  Yeah. I was cardio when we realized
• 28:56
  that, that you didn't have to go back up and over because I knew
• 29:01
  we came from the other side of that mountain.
• 29:03
  So I was like, there's no way. Well, they can't make you do
• 29:07
  this for three more targets. Like that's all that's left.
• 29:10
  Are we serious? But then we realized you pie cut
• 29:12
  the side of the mountain. I, I really like the prime
• 29:19
  course a lot, but what I thought was kind of fun is normally when
• 29:25
  I shoot any 3D course, I'm, you know, indexing the targets, I'm,
• 29:31
  you know, scoring. We did score it, but ahead of
• 29:36
  time we said, hey, we had a huge group.
• 29:39
  There was like 12 of us in the group and we were the last ones.
• 29:41
  We weren't holding anyone up. And in fact, we were actually
• 29:44
  pushing a group of two, which is very impressive.
• 29:46
  But be part of the efficiency was Scott and I had agreed
• 29:49
  prior, we said, hey, we'll score, but we're just using one
• 29:54
  range. So like one of us ranges it and
• 29:56
  people just shoot off it and no indexing.
• 29:58
  So we were literally just range, shoot, range shoot.
• 30:02
  So like and I learned that you can do that like off memory, you
• 30:06
  can do it somewhat. It definitely is going to reduce
• 30:09
  your score some for sure. But we didn't care.
• 30:11
  We're like we're just trying to hustle and have fun.
• 30:13
  So we're like just banging targets.
• 30:16
  And it was actually pretty fun to do it that way because
• 30:20
  normally, you know, it's like, OK, let me the twelves there and
• 30:24
  then like you're taking time and then shooting.
• 30:26
  This was just so nonchalant. Yeah, mystery and even more,
• 30:32
  more of a sense of challenge to it.
• 30:34
  Yeah, I didn't go along with that.
• 30:35
  Yeah, by any. Yeah, you were indexing, but my
• 30:37
  point is I had a lot of fun doing that with Scott and I
• 30:40
  think, did you index or no? No, I so yeah, you would there
• 30:43
  whip my buying us out if I did maybe like one time, but I don't
• 30:47
  think I would come out a single time.
• 30:48
  I did range a couple of times on my own just for some comparison,
• 30:54
  but. Yeah, I thought that was a fun
• 30:56
  way to do it. And then another thing I thought
• 31:00
  was fun about the trip was how we kind of mixed up the groups
• 31:03
  each day. So like we always shot with
• 31:05
  different groups and the so we shot with the our, our, our home
• 31:13
  team plus Jeff the first day, the second day we broke into two
• 31:17
  groups and shot. And then the third day we shot
• 31:21
  with the guy, guys from Adams Precision archery.
• 31:24
  Oh yeah, on elk course. And that was a lot of fun.
• 31:27
  They were real nervous, I thought.
• 31:28
  But we did 5 courses because we did 2 the last day we did
• 31:32
  loophole. Oh, that's right, that's right.
• 31:34
  That's right. And Loophole.
• 31:35
  Loophole might have been my favorite.
• 31:36
  It was. We just had our freaking group
• 31:38
  of Elvis and this one, yeah, the video concept was great.
• 31:41
  It was a lot sometimes. Those are always fun when it's
• 31:44
  just like the the main group that we're like staying with
• 31:48
  and. I can't wait to see that that
• 31:50
  clip come out of you interviewing Brittany.
• 31:54
  And so you worried. About I made a short out of it.
• 31:56
  You worried? About him hitting a talk, she
• 31:58
  goes. Not at all.
• 32:00
  Yeah, that you dream just like. About planning on it.
• 32:04
  But so you said you were, you know, a little bit nervous the
• 32:08
  whole time, a lot of bit nervous, but somewhat, somewhat
• 32:11
  because of the people you were shooting with.
• 32:12
  So like shooting with Josh and shooting with Jeff.
• 32:16
  So then the last day we throw him in with Josh Bomar.
• 32:20
  Dude, what a. Guy Dude was the best guy.
• 32:22
  But I'm saying, were you like goddamn it?
• 32:24
  I thought I was going to get a mellow day to not be so goddamn.
• 32:27
  Purpose. At that point I was you were
• 32:28
  getting used to. It by then a little bit I.
• 32:30
  Think my body was just, I've been, I was shaking so much the
• 32:35
  past two days that my body's all, well, I mean, yeah, you're
• 32:38
  nervous, but you're not going to shake us bad.
• 32:40
  And plus, I did switch. I shot my oh, you shot the hand
• 32:44
  well, and that was a crazy change.
• 32:47
  Freaking in the middle of tack. But you changed on the ELF
• 32:50
  course. So I changed on the ultra view
• 32:54
  court I shot. So first shoot at the
• 32:59
  Jacqueline's course, I shot my UV button and just punching the
• 33:04
  hell out of it. I was like like I would go into
• 33:07
  the shot mentally like preparing myself dude, just go through
• 33:10
  emotions, don't punch trigger. But I had so much float like
• 33:14
  I've only been shooting the proven 34 for like a week.
• 33:17
  So I didn't have like it all balanced or anything.
• 33:19
  I definitely needed to add weight, which I did the last day
• 33:22
  which helped significantly. But my float was just so drastic
• 33:29
  that like, as soon as I held on that target for more than like
• 33:33
  half a second, I'll go fuck it, you know, would just punch it.
• 33:37
  And then I switched to the clicker because I brought I
• 33:40
  brought this. Oh man, dude.
• 33:42
  I've got to give a count real quick for the camera.
• 33:44
  So I had I have the my main one was the UV button, the the heavy
• 33:52
  heavy metal 1 I had in my arsenal the knock on 2 special,
• 33:57
  which was like the limited edition release.
• 33:59
  I didn't shoot that the weekend, but I brought it with me.
• 34:01
  It's a little two finger Carter that Dudley did a crab with.
• 34:08
  I had the Stan Onyx thumb clicker and resistance.
• 34:12
  I only shot the clicker and then I ended up buying the evolution
• 34:17
  outdoors Ibex hinge, which is a hell of a release.
• 34:21
  Man, I love that freaking thing. Who has 6 releases?
• 34:24
  I only shot 3 though. So you, you brought six, one of
• 34:30
  which I brought to you, right? Yeah, you brought the thumb.
• 34:34
  One of which you bought. You shot 3.
• 34:38
  You shot your button, your UV button, your clicker clicker and
• 34:44
  the hinge and four, if we count you shooting. 05 if we count
• 34:48
  bummers. I shot his reverse thumb
• 34:51
  prototype, which is a dude. You guys are going?
• 34:53
  To I don't know if I think he takes the prize, the trophy for
• 34:58
  the only person ever to go through that many releases in
• 35:03
  one. Well, so my favorite.
• 35:06
  I almost brought my freaking Carter RX1 index release.
• 35:09
  So if we. Pause for one second and take a
• 35:11
  look at this I. I just took a video, he looks.
• 35:13
  Ridiculous. This is insane.
• 35:15
  This is insane but so my favorite Joey moment of the
• 35:19
  weekend. Oh, here we go.
• 35:22
  I just, I just loved it. So we're on the Elk course and
• 35:26
  we had this fun concept where you got a bonus ball and the
• 35:29
  bonus ball had a wrap on the front of the arrow and it's
• 35:31
  worth double. So I had been saving mine deep
• 35:35
  into the round because I knew that me and my partner like had
• 35:38
  a lead while we were shooting strong.
• 35:40
  I knew we were dial but a shot finally caught and he's the only
• 35:45
  one left. Me and him have a bonus ball.
• 35:47
  It was like a 30 yard uphill mini elk.
• 35:50
  It's like at the very worst I should tend this hopefully 10 it
• 35:54
  or 12 it. So I go up first, bang A12,
• 35:58
  right? So I'm like, OK, I just got a 12
• 36:00
  with my bonus ball, 24 points. That's great.
• 36:04
  Joey goes all right, he puts on Hell's Bells, whoops, off that
• 36:08
  fun, plays. Hell's Bells, steps up to the
• 36:10
  cone, throws his phone. He had just switched to the
• 36:16
  hinge. I think maybe one target prior,
• 36:18
  but this was uphill, right? Yeah, I shot at.
• 36:20
  Him. So he draws into this and I'm
• 36:24
  filming. I happen to be vlogging it, so I
• 36:26
  have all this document. It's great.
• 36:29
  He pulls back and he's holding and holding and Holden everyone.
• 36:35
  'S just there in the middle of it and all of a sudden his
• 36:38
  mental supports that you keep pulling through.
• 36:40
  And his bow is moving like so much and I I'm feeling I just
• 36:45
  start busting up laughing. I can't contain so like.
• 36:49
  Everyone. Starts laughing.
• 36:50
  Which made it worse, by the way. Finally, Yahoo.
• 36:53
  Finally, his bow goes off. And he did tend it.
• 36:57
  He shot a tent. By the grace of God, thank you
• 37:00
  Jesus, and. Everyone in the bunch just lost
• 37:05
  it. It was.
• 37:05
  So funny I hit you not I've. I've only thrown or shot my
• 37:13
  release through my bill once and I'll play with you.
• 37:17
  I don't know how the hell that happened to this day, but I was
• 37:20
  all I was holding my breath for at least 45 seconds.
• 37:27
  Dude, I I'm pretty sure if you look hard enough, my face starts
• 37:31
  to turn purple into something. I'm I'm pushing and pulling and
• 37:38
  I'm waiting for the click. The click hits and that's when I
• 37:41
  start just shaking because it scared the piss out of me.
• 37:45
  Dude, I'm like. Oh.
• 37:48
  Oh OK. And I just keep pulling and then
• 37:51
  I was, I tried to punch it but I didn't know how to punch a hinge
• 37:54
  because I've only shot a hinge like 5 times.
• 37:56
  Fiber. Yet.
• 37:58
  Oh my. God freaking 50 seconds.
• 38:00
  Holding my breath at this point and I almost just let go of the
• 38:03
  release. I was like fuck.
• 38:05
  It this, I think my favorite was so you shot at the remainder of
• 38:10
  that course, I think, and then the next day we went out on the
• 38:16
  loophole course in the morning. And my favorites also in that
• 38:21
  clip where Britney tries to shit talk you and gets proven wrong
• 38:24
  is the the very beginning of the interview and it's just you in
• 38:29
  the background, like, you know, they're interviewing whatnot.
• 38:33
  You're getting prepped for your shot and you're just like, you
• 38:35
  literally test your arm. You're like, OK, we're because
• 38:40
  we're he's got this whole process going on now to make
• 38:45
  sure that his arm's going to be OK if you know for this hinge.
• 38:48
  I didn't want to knock anybody up.
• 38:49
  They didn't. If I hit him like I hit my
• 38:51
  button, they would have been freaking and.
• 38:53
  Then there was one point, I don't know if it got captured on
• 38:55
  camera or not, where they were too close and you literally
• 38:59
  advised them like some like you, you guys might need to back up
• 39:03
  because my arm flies back now. The only thing I do is surprise
• 39:09
  breaks now, so well, I followed through.
• 39:11
  I felt it. I thought it was cool.
• 39:13
  I felt pretty steezy doing that. You were steezy.
• 39:16
  So OK, so let me hop back into it.
• 39:17
  So day four shooting with the friggin or massive bunch.
• 39:22
  Shout out to this is going to be a list of shout outs here, but
• 39:26
  shout out to the Hunter podcast guys.
• 39:29
  Well, let's do. Bo Mar Sarah David.
• 39:33
  Friggin David is an unbelievable shooter.
• 39:37
  That guy, and he's so he. Makes me so calm.
• 39:39
  He makes me look like trash. That's how good he talks.
• 39:41
  Like so good. Falls that good up he talking
• 39:43
  shit. Oh, no, he does talk shit.
• 39:45
  Oh, boy, he talks shit, and I love it.
• 39:47
  He's such a nasty boy. But David so impressed that,
• 39:52
  yeah, just that whole group was so fun.
• 39:54
  And oh, Micah Morgan, dude, we got to talk about how efficient
• 39:57
  that guy is at filming. You don't even know.
• 39:59
  You don't even know. He's like a spider man.
• 40:01
  He's a little ninja. He's a.
• 40:02
  Ninja. Yeah, he's insane, I told him.
• 40:06
  He was getting out the the ember camera and he's probably only
• 40:11
  like 15 feet behind me, you know, with the bag on the
• 40:14
  ground, gets the camera out. I see him stand up.
• 40:16
  I look away for couldn't have been 2 seconds maximum, probably
• 40:21
  a second. And I turn back and all of a
• 40:23
  sudden he's 30 yards back. He's like, how did you do that?
• 40:27
  Like, and no sound made whatsoever.
• 40:30
  He just must have backed up like, you know, on his toes and
• 40:34
  also like done the Michael Jackson sliding backwards the
• 40:38
  moonwalk and disappeared 30 yards back.
• 40:41
  And I was like. He's.
• 40:44
  Got the time to get back there. That was his first time film
• 40:46
  filming for Bomar. Yeah.
• 40:48
  So you know, that guy is freaking like on it.
• 40:50
  He's all dude like and I don't think anybody could make a
• 40:54
  better first impression. Well, he was so impressive.
• 40:57
  I told him I was like, dude, I'm just very impressed with your.
• 40:59
  I do not want. To know what his day rate is.
• 41:02
  But but so that was awesome. Filming with him was awesome.
• 41:07
  Our huge group photo was so badass.
• 41:10
  I love our group photo Hard. It's so hard, so hard.
• 41:13
  And yeah, it was awesome. So I think, you know, I think, I
• 41:19
  think to sum it up, I mean, I think you came to a really good
• 41:22
  first tack. You did get thrown into a lot of
• 41:27
  situations that most people don't get thrown into.
• 41:29
  And I thought you handled it really well and had a freaking
• 41:33
  great time. So it was awesome, dude.
• 41:36
  So how even the 11 freaking? Yeah, we can't tell that story,
• 41:39
  but it is. Yeah.
• 41:40
  He he was a nasty boy one time. Oh yeah.
• 41:43
  Yeah, yeah. It was the only time like, oh,
• 41:45
  oh, jeans on peak. And it turned out fine.
• 41:48
  Yeah, it was totally fine. It was freaking.
• 41:51
  And then at the end of the prime course, Mr. Josh Bomar let me
• 41:56
  freaking stroke his 90. Tell me about that.
• 42:01
  I had to have been like you showed me that video of Micah
• 42:04
  stroking it like nothing. It looked like a 6 LB buff.
• 42:07
  I had to have been just freaking spent because.
• 42:11
  You were. Often trying to draw it uphill a
• 42:15
  steep hill. That's a factor I mean, we're
• 42:17
  only 20 yards away from. That, yeah, but still it's.
• 42:19
  Still, it's still an incline the whole way.
• 42:21
  It didn't, like, Peter out to a plateau at any point.
• 42:23
  So, you know, like, the most plateau you might have had was
• 42:26
  right around the target where people had been, you know,
• 42:29
  pounded in ground and pulling arrows all weekend.
• 42:32
  But. That was the after the last
• 42:34
  target of the entire trip and I could like my endurance I
• 42:42
  thought was pretty good. So I didn't think that it was
• 42:46
  like muscle fatigue but after seeing I could do it and how my
• 42:51
  shoulders felt as soon as I got on that bus like it like just to
• 42:55
  hold my front hand, my delt was just on fire.
• 42:58
  Like I did some freaking delt like burnout workout on my
• 43:02
  delts. I was like twice but.
• 43:05
  Let me ask you, so you said the vendors was like, you know,
• 43:09
  Disneyland you liked all the shooting courses, Although I do
• 43:13
  think the beast course at BD Challenge was probably stronger
• 43:17
  than all the courses. It's not even questionable.
• 43:20
  It was so that was Beast was insane and so was Podium
• 43:22
  actually and Tricer, just in different ways.
• 43:25
  All of them. All of them.
• 43:26
  They all are. But the difference is we only
• 43:29
  have to do one event a year. So like we can really dump all
• 43:31
  the time into making the shots like so epic, whereas they're
• 43:34
  doing like 15 of them and the courses are all still so
• 43:37
  excellent. But what was your thoughts on
• 43:42
  the practice range? Like just like, did you think it
• 43:46
  was cool how many targets are out there and options?
• 43:49
  And it would have been nice if it was flat.
• 43:52
  I would. If you want to shoot further,
• 43:55
  further than, I mean 40 yards, you're going to be winded by the
• 43:58
  time you go back to your butt or all the time you get to the
• 44:00
  target. I thought it was steep too.
• 44:02
  It doesn't look that steep, but. Till you start walking up and
• 44:05
  then you're like. Deceiving, but yeah.
• 44:07
  I'm going to shoot the close targets.
• 44:09
  Yeah, that's basically what I did.
• 44:11
  Yeah, and there was like a plateau and then it got like
• 44:14
  Steve again. I don't think I ever shot past
• 44:17
  that like 60 yard plateau. I think the very first ones I
• 44:20
  did I did it was like 70 something and after that I shot
• 44:24
  everything like 60 and in because I didn't feel like
• 44:26
  hiking up mountain. Title.
• 44:28
  It doesn't make sense though that they put it on on a hill
• 44:31
  that steep because if you do miss a target but you're only
• 44:34
  going well in the ground. I mean, if the ground wasn't as
• 44:37
  wet as it was, arrows would have been so much easier to find.
• 44:41
  The I mean the everything was so saturated that your arrow would
• 44:45
  just freaking bury to the notch. One of my first ones at the
• 44:48
  practice range before I knew that I had equipment issues.
• 44:54
  I, I shot like I don't know where in relation to somewhere
• 45:00
  right around the target. I mean, and it was at 76 yards I
• 45:04
  think. So like, I know my arrow didn't
• 45:05
  go that far in this 76 yards up this hill.
• 45:10
  So like it's going to be somewhere right there.
• 45:11
  James walks up with me. Could not find that arrow to
• 45:14
  save my life. Never found it.
• 45:16
  And I almost guarantee as like that one on prime where we
• 45:18
  started digging and it was like a trophy mine of arrows.
• 45:23
  Like we just kept pulling arrows out of the the mud or the salt
• 45:28
  almost. $200 worth of arrows and they were all good.
• 45:32
  So I guarantee that's also what happened to mine.
• 45:34
  It's like it's just that ground was so moist and soft from all
• 45:39
  the rain that they've gotten that everything was just burying
• 45:43
  into the dirt. And I don't often have that
• 45:45
  problem with my arrows, but I think mine took a digger into
• 45:48
  that that soft ground. But I was going to say, so how
• 45:53
  do you like you're just thoughts, not, you know, like
• 45:56
  rating or anything like that thoughts And like a shoot at
• 46:00
  this size capacity, like the amount that goes into setting
• 46:07
  up, you know, 8 to 10 courses in A1 given area in comparison to
• 46:13
  like doing local sheets, I guess.
• 46:16
  And like your your thoughts on it and just having participated
• 46:20
  in the whole thing in general archery wise.
• 46:25
  Yes. So they are definitely efficient
• 46:29
  with the space. I mean, I don't know how big the
• 46:32
  venue is, like the the size of the mountain, given it's a
• 46:35
  skiers or in Pennsylvania. I can't imagine it's that big.
• 46:39
  You know, it's pretty limited because I mean, I'm pretty sure
• 46:42
  that's only freaking hill and in Pennsylvania flying out.
• 46:45
  I thought for sure it was going to be flatland everywhere, but
• 46:48
  they they they found it and they definitely made utilized it.
• 46:54
  I think the best way that they could have.
• 46:59
  I would have liked to see more technical shots.
• 47:04
  I maybe it's just because I I'm such a fan of the way Jam sets
• 47:10
  up his course and the way he set up Beast.
• 47:13
  Dude was like, I still am freaking talking about that to
• 47:19
  everybody that wasn't there. Like I chopped Bruce's ass all
• 47:22
  the time. Like did you miss the best
• 47:25
  course? Like you will love that thing.
• 47:28
  So I, I really like the challenging shots.
• 47:31
  But given the, the incident that happened, I think at the tech
• 47:35
  prior to that, I understand why they did what they did.
• 47:40
  They didn't want to. I mean, I think they ended up
• 47:44
  having to use up a lot of their real estate to make most of the
• 47:49
  targets, like the pie cuts, as we call them.
• 47:51
  Yeah, basically pulling returns. Yeah, but not like pulling.
• 47:55
  Well, and that and that's and that's that's the thing to
• 47:57
  remember always is pulling returns are very safe.
• 48:04
  They're like the safest shots you can build because you go
• 48:07
  pull and then you watch the people come past and once
• 48:10
  they're pat like back to their stuff, you you know, you can
• 48:12
  shoot. I prefer courses that are a walk
• 48:15
  through trail the whole way, like all of bow disciples
• 48:18
  challenge. There was only one pull and
• 48:19
  return that got put in last minute, but that's what I
• 48:23
  prefer. But for safety I understand all
• 48:25
  the pie cuts and pull and returns because those.
• 48:27
  Are well, I think it also has to just do with the, and this is I
• 48:30
  think the fun part of the out TAC because there's so many of
• 48:35
  them and different terrain options, though that is now I
• 48:39
  think the biggest TAC event for the amount of people that attend
• 48:45
  in right there with Utah's terrain wise, I don't think you
• 48:53
  get as much as what you get at say Montana's, Colorado's or
• 48:59
  Utah's. And so those you get a lot more
• 49:05
  technical shots because you're like, it's either your shot, it
• 49:09
  goes in the target or goes in rocks or it hits trees or like,
• 49:12
  well, I've seen windows like friggin this big, like tiny.
• 49:16
  So it's fun because, you know, say you're like who?
• 49:19
  That one was fun and I got a lot out of the vendor village.
• 49:23
  But I want to try something that I think the train would be more
• 49:25
  technical. Then the next year, like OK, I'm
• 49:27
  going to plan to try to go to Utah's or Colorado's or whatever
• 49:31
  because you get options or say you shooting those all the time
• 49:36
  and you just want to try a different state like we did this
• 49:38
  year with going to all of them. But Oklahoma's or whatever.
• 49:42
  Which I was actually surprised at the amount of they utilize
• 49:48
  technical shots and windows a lot because of the amount of
• 49:51
  trees in Oklahoma. So I thought that was because
• 49:54
  you don't have the the topography as much.
• 49:56
  You get some little hills but nothing as far as like a
• 50:00
  mountain goes. Scott and I were kicking the
• 50:04
  tires on maybe some of the events we want to do next year
• 50:09
  and. It's kicking the tires, I mean.
• 50:11
  Just like throwing around ideas, you know?
• 50:14
  But we both kind of agreed that Oklahoma would probably be on
• 50:17
  both our lists again. I think so.
• 50:19
  I think that one's just a good fun time.
• 50:22
  He's like, honestly I would just, it would be cool if we
• 50:25
  could even just get the same Airbnb.
• 50:27
  Yeah, the courses were good enough that they weren't boring
• 50:31
  by any means. And I don't think there was
• 50:34
  probably a single tack out there that has boring courses because
• 50:37
  of how they choose to set. Up we we We thought this would
• 50:43
  be our last tack event of the year, but it turns out we have
• 50:48
  made a late addition of Montana. Audible baby.
• 50:53
  Which Montana is a new Montana location?
• 50:58
  Oh, it's an all beat Sky, no. No, it's called Red Lodge Red
• 51:02
  Lodge and so it's a new location so I'll never mind.
• 51:05
  So this will actually be my 11th different tac location I've been
• 51:09
  to. Oh, I thought you were going to
• 51:10
  say this year. I'm like.
• 51:11
  No, this year I'd only be 4, which is I said I would go to
• 51:15
  two every year I say, oh, this year I'm going to only do 2 and
• 51:17
  then I always end up doing like 3 or 4, which is fine.
• 51:21
  Like I, you know, if my, like, I think it's good to have two
• 51:26
  planned and then be like, well, if my schedule happens to align
• 51:29
  with any of the others and there's nothing going on, just
• 51:32
  blast out there, you know, because why not?
• 51:34
  They're fun, good chance to mingle, meet, meet people that
• 51:37
  support the show. Like to me, that's important is
• 51:40
  being able to shake paws with people that have supported the
• 51:44
  show, you know? So what better place to do it
• 51:47
  than, you know, a huge collection of Archers, you know
• 51:51
  what I mean? That's awesome.
• 51:52
  So it was bitching and then so we did a little vacation after.
• 52:00
  Oh, we're still talking about tech.
• 52:01
  We. Can go oh, we're we're about.
• 52:03
  OK, you don't want to get into my my or what is it?
• 52:09
  Popping my cherry with my first fan.
• 52:12
  Oh yeah, telling the story. This is a banger.
• 52:14
  So. Shout out to you, you know he's
• 52:16
  probably watching. Yeah, Chris, Chris, I don't know
• 52:19
  his Instagram, but so I'm shooting at the practice range.
• 52:23
  I think it was right after we shot R and the F I'm like, did I
• 52:28
  got to get this hinge freaking figured out like it was I needed
• 52:31
  to get a little bit hotter. I'm silly, Shannon and Chris
• 52:35
  comes up to me and as I turn around to like hang up my bow
• 52:39
  and he goes, hey dude, I saw you yesterday.
• 52:42
  I got a picture with Brie and Britt.
• 52:44
  I think you said you got a picture with you too.
• 52:46
  He goes, but I I wasn't able to get a photo with you.
• 52:49
  I really want to get a photo with you and I'm still there.
• 52:52
  I'm like range is mine. So I'm like me.
• 52:59
  He goes, yeah, I'm all. Are you sure?
• 53:04
  Like what are you talking about? And he goes with both samples.
• 53:09
  He was like, can't get a picture with you.
• 53:11
  I'm like. Why?
• 53:16
  Because I'm just a dude that freaking like I love, I love
• 53:19
  hopping on your, your videos, dude.
• 53:21
  It's so much fun. I'm just a humble Papa like,
• 53:25
  well, I'm, I'm a shitty shooter. I don't know that that's true
• 53:32
  because in the playoff game, people are going to see the
• 53:34
  playoff game soon. Yeah.
• 53:36
  You know, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's like, I don't know, I
• 53:46
  guess freaking he likes what I had to contribute to the
• 53:52
  channel. Yeah, I didn't know I did, but
• 53:56
  oh, I did. It was pretty cool.
• 53:58
  And sat there and chatted with him for quite a while, just
• 54:02
  shooting the shit and having like a real conversation with
• 54:06
  somebody. So it was.
• 54:09
  It was very humbling, very, very uncomfortable at first.
• 54:13
  I. Was like what I'm not James.
• 54:17
  We all look down like I mean we're both good looking though.
• 54:20
  Great. He's way better looking.
• 54:23
  But yeah, shout out to Chris. I was I was a cool experience.
• 54:26
  He hit me up the other day. I don't think I I typed up a
• 54:32
  response, but I don't think I sent it, so I'm not guessing you
• 54:36
  did. But shout out to Chris.
• 54:39
  He wants me to come do a podcast with him.
• 54:43
  Maybe like recapping the whole thing, maybe my experience with
• 54:46
  you and whatnot. And Speaking of which, like I
• 54:51
  said earlier, I was a fan of James's before I became a friend
• 54:55
  of his and now I consider him. I consider you like one of my
• 54:58
  best friends. Now you.
• 54:59
  Too Buddy, look at this bonding right now.
• 55:03
  I love it. Yeah, a lot of times, like you
• 55:06
  see a personality on the Internet, mainly on YouTube, and
• 55:12
  they put on a persona that is very different from what they
• 55:16
  actually are. Or that persona ends up getting
• 55:21
  so inflated and they get so much traction that they almost get
• 55:25
  full of themselves. And I will say, dude, you are
• 55:33
  who you are on camera is exactly who you are in real life.
• 55:36
  And you're a genuinely good dude.
• 55:38
  And if anybody says anything other than that, you know, we
• 55:45
  can catch these hands. Luckily, there's only about
• 55:48
  bodyguard. Luckily, there's only I
• 55:52
  appreciate the kind of words. Luckily, there's only there's
• 55:54
  probably less than five people that have have an issue with.
• 55:56
  Me, that's not directed towards anybody particularly, but.
• 56:00
  No, I appreciate that. I mean, I mean, for me it's, I
• 56:03
  think that it's like, I don't know, I just, I've been doing
• 56:11
  videos for so long in my life. Like I said, I put my first
• 56:16
  video on the Internet in 2000, in 2007.
• 56:19
  So I mean, I've literally been pumping out content on the
• 56:22
  Internet for almost 20 years. It's a long time, you know.
• 56:26
  So for me, it's just like, I don't know, to me it's like I
• 56:31
  don't even think about the camera at all.
• 56:33
  I'm just like, you know, maybe I'll throw an extra joke in or
• 56:37
  something here and there or that like, but it's like everything I
• 56:40
  do is just what I would do anyways.
• 56:43
  Like even if I didn't have the YouTube channel or like let's
• 56:46
  say I had it, but nobody watched it, I would still do the same
• 56:50
  thing. And there's you can go watch,
• 56:53
  you can go watch that. I did that.
• 56:54
  You know what I mean? Because I literally went through
• 56:56
  the channel actually earlier today and I was looking through
• 56:59
  old videos and I mean there's a bunch of them that have like
• 57:02
  like 68 views, like a lot, you know?
• 57:05
  So like we literally were doing the same shit when nobody
• 57:09
  watched and now the only difference is more people watch.
• 57:12
  That's the only difference. Yeah, I think it also has like
• 57:17
  being behind the camera and being a YouTube personality.
• 57:22
  It also amplifies your ability to interact with people, makes
• 57:27
  you so much more of a people person.
• 57:29
  If you guys think that he's only high energy when the cameras on,
• 57:33
  you are dead wrong, dude. This dude will wake up.
• 57:35
  He'll freaking tie one on harder than anybody else the night
• 57:38
  before and then wake up in the like 6:30 in the morning and
• 57:43
  just ready to go. Dude, I don't know.
• 57:45
  You're the freaking Energizer. Energizer Bunny on crack.
• 57:49
  Oh, to do with people the morning when we when we so the
• 57:53
  day we had to pack and check out by 10.
• 57:57
  I was such a demon dude to everybody.
• 57:59
  I, I mean, everyone's kind of like, Hey, we take our time, get
• 58:02
  packed and I get up and I'm basically like.
• 58:05
  Yeah. Let's go, Joey, what's taking so
• 58:09
  long up there? Brett, where's your case?
• 58:11
  I'm just on. Everybody asks about going
• 58:14
  faster. I've been hunting brand.
• 58:16
  I can tell you I'm absolute menace at like 4:00 AM dude.
• 58:19
  Dude, yeah, you and Drew are. Yeah, probably.
• 58:25
  I would love to see you guys in hunting camp together dude
• 58:28
  because like. They'd be looking at each other
• 58:30
  on the but can run faster up the mountain.
• 58:32
  Do you think you could do it faster?
• 58:33
  No, I think I could do it faster.
• 58:35
  And eventually they just both be sprinting up the mountain to see
• 58:38
  who can make it to the top first and get their glassing equipment
• 58:41
  out like it would be, I think, obnoxious.
• 58:44
  I'd be back there. Just do, do, do.
• 58:46
  Do you guys go on your way? I'll be there in 20 minutes or
• 58:50
  so. Can I share a story about my OH?
• 58:53
  Sure these do. OK, so we started in one unit,
• 59:00
  didn't have any luck. We glassed up.
• 59:03
  I glassed up like a herd of like probably a handful of bowls in a
• 59:09
  just a gang of of cows, but they were across the street and there
• 59:15
  was ranches that kind of blocked the access to them.
• 59:18
  So the only access to that herd was going up this fire road and
• 59:23
  dropping literally like almost 2000 feet within like 100 yards.
• 59:28
  And we would have had to follow this telephone pole line blew
• 59:31
  up, went up, took a look at it, decided against it.
• 59:36
  So then we drove, I want to say it was like 5-6 hours to another
• 59:41
  unit and the night that we got to that unit, we parked, I want
• 59:48
  to say around like 15,000 feet. I don't think we expected any
• 59:53
  weather. I mean it was kind of like
• 59:56
  misting or like drizzling on and off throughout our trip out
• 59:58
  there, but nothing crazy. Well, the way we were camping.
• 1:00:03
  We pull up the the truck. Drews Heinrich's just a friggin
• 1:00:10
  for how much? He dude, he.
• 1:00:11
  Beats the hell out of that thing and it just keeps going.
• 1:00:14
  F-150, baby. But he has canvas cutters and
• 1:00:19
  his son set him up, kind of. He helped the truck.
• 1:00:25
  Come off the side of. The truck literally no.
• 1:00:28
  So it's it's almost like a bed roll, but you got your canvas
• 1:00:32
  shell, which is completely waterproof.
• 1:00:36
  Then you have your bedding pad inside of it and then these
• 1:00:42
  almost like tent poles that you set up to kind of give you a
• 1:00:45
  little bit of a shell to sleep inside of.
• 1:00:48
  It's almost like sleeping in a coffin if you're claustrophobic.
• 1:00:52
  I mean, just you don't zip it up all the way, but I I didn't I've
• 1:00:58
  never experienced these things and he had them already set up
• 1:01:01
  ready to go. So I just set it up to where the
• 1:01:03
  bed pad was freaking facing up crawled in it.
• 1:01:09
  The warm. They're so freaking warm.
• 1:01:11
  Those things are awesome. Well, but the the insulation
• 1:01:18
  that they provide, like I don't think I even had to pull my
• 1:01:21
  quilt out once, but set them out sleep on them three days.
• 1:01:26
  Great freaking night's sleep. When we get to the new unit that
• 1:01:31
  night, we set them up and it's just starts pouring rain like we
• 1:01:38
  probably got like 6 inches overnight and I'm sitting there
• 1:01:42
  and do ice. I shoot you not I thought I
• 1:01:44
  pissed myself because I woke up. I'm all.
• 1:01:48
  Because your swamp I'm. Snowing my ass is soaking wet.
• 1:01:51
  Just soaking wet. Elmo What?
• 1:01:53
  The you just got swamp ass. No, dude.
• 1:01:55
  So his son set it up upside down.
• 1:01:58
  So where you zip it up, there's flaps that come over the
• 1:02:01
  zippers. Well, the zippers aren't
• 1:02:03
  waterproof, so the flaps were coming up, so all the rain that
• 1:02:07
  would hit the top of it would run down the sides of it and
• 1:02:11
  seep in through the zippers. Dude, I woke up in like the
• 1:02:15
  first time and I, I like, I was feeling myself.
• 1:02:17
  I'm like, dude, did I piss myself?
• 1:02:19
  I'm like, that's fucking embarrassing, you know?
• 1:02:22
  And I'm like sitting there smelling it, like seeing like
• 1:02:24
  what the fuck it is because it's just a puddle where my ass is
• 1:02:27
  because that's like the heaviest.
• 1:02:29
  That was the part closest to the bottom of the.
• 1:02:31
  Your ass is the heaviest. Dude, I got a dump.
• 1:02:36
  God damn that. Thing is thick but I kind of
• 1:02:40
  like readjust. I'm like it's water, maybe I
• 1:02:42
  spilled my water bottle or something, fall back asleep and
• 1:02:46
  then I wake up my shoulders soaked my entire like I'm a side
• 1:02:49
  sleeper so my entire rice on my body is soaking wet.
• 1:02:53
  It's like 80 during the day and drops to like 30 like probably
• 1:02:59
  35 at night. So it's fucking cold at night
• 1:03:03
  and I'm like feeling around in the dark, get my headlamp on,
• 1:03:08
  like turn it on and there is, I shit you not like an inch or two
• 1:03:12
  of water in inside of my canvas cutter everywhere.
• 1:03:16
  And I'm like, Oh no, what the fuck, dude.
• 1:03:20
  I I was so quick. I'm like.
• 1:03:24
  Fuck these things. These things are shit blah blah,
• 1:03:27
  blah. Like I and it was like at 2:00
• 1:03:29
  in the morning and from 2:00 till about 4:30 when Drew wakes
• 1:03:34
  up, I'm sitting there just miserable, like shivering my ass
• 1:03:37
  off and Drew freaking pops out of his canvas cutter.
• 1:03:40
  He goes all right, guys, you guys ready to go come on guys,
• 1:03:44
  this guy and I'm sitting like I pop, I freaking, I hear he's up
• 1:03:47
  and I just RIP it open them all. Fuck these things, dude.
• 1:03:50
  These things are bullshit blah blah.
• 1:03:52
  Like also I'm soaking wet and just miserable and it's freezing
• 1:03:58
  outside so I'm I'm absolutely drenched.
• 1:04:02
  I'm in like 35° weather, drew as chipper as fuck and I am just
• 1:04:07
  like. And that just makes you a bit
• 1:04:09
  more irritated. I might leave.
• 1:04:11
  We were going to go out and scout our area that day.
• 1:04:15
  I'm all leave the truck keys dude, I'm staying in the truck
• 1:04:17
  friggin with the heater on. I am like borderline going to
• 1:04:20
  catch pneumonia right now. I go to friggin throw my Crocs
• 1:04:23
  on and friggin my Crocs are filled with water and I'm just
• 1:04:27
  it was just not a good time. But we come come to find out
• 1:04:31
  that the canvas cutter was the shell was upside down.
• 1:04:34
  So all the water came in through the zippers.
• 1:04:39
  But I don't know how you freaking held it together.
• 1:04:44
  But he just he keeps the same type of energy, you guys or you
• 1:04:47
  keep it. You guys are just so positive
• 1:04:49
  and freaking. That dude is an absolute
• 1:04:51
  freaking pack meal of a of a dude.
• 1:04:54
  It'll go and how old is he? Like 3638 or something or
• 1:04:59
  something like that? Yeah, it's like 4 or 6 years
• 1:05:03
  older than I am and he's just free to dude Billy goat.
• 1:05:06
  Oh yeah. Goes and you wouldn't think of
• 1:05:09
  it or you wouldn't think it, but yeah, great, great hunting
• 1:05:15
  partner. Very, very blessed to have been
• 1:05:19
  invited on that trip even though I've screwed up our only shot
• 1:05:23
  opportunity that we had it. Happens, man.
• 1:05:25
  Yeah, it was just cool to get out there and get at least a Rep
• 1:05:28
  and. Oh, first dude.
• 1:05:30
  I mean, that's what it's all about.
• 1:05:31
  It's just the experience and. I could not even imagine you
• 1:05:35
  guys in hunting camp together. You guys would bring just the
• 1:05:38
  biggest vibe. It'll have to happen,
• 1:05:41
  absolutely. Right, so you should you should
• 1:05:43
  plan some some dirty sea hunt where we just go out and.
• 1:05:47
  I'm in. And just James loves camping so
• 1:05:49
  much, you know. I do, I do, I do like it.
• 1:05:52
  Is it grown like you? Yeah, a little bit.
• 1:05:54
  Yeah. Now one thing I want to get.
• 1:05:57
  To oh. We're past an hour.
• 1:05:58
  Oh, I had to. I had some questions lined up.
• 1:06:01
  Oh, you have questions? Yeah, OK.
• 1:06:03
  You get your questions. I'm going to save my thing for
• 1:06:04
  last. You obviously got to I think one
• 1:06:07
  of the best experiences honestly, other than like a lot
• 1:06:09
  of cool different courses and so many to choose from and whatnot.
• 1:06:13
  Whereas like, you know, you might your local shoots like the
• 1:06:16
  same every time, maybe a little different variation, but coolest
• 1:06:21
  thing is like it's basically like going to an X milk, but you
• 1:06:23
  get to try stuff and use stuff and touch it.
• 1:06:26
  Feel like what not What was probably your favorite booth?
• 1:06:31
  Or you could give a top couple that you got to go see or talk
• 1:06:35
  to be either the people or the product itself or your favorite
• 1:06:42
  one or two unbiased. You know, just so you got to
• 1:06:44
  walk around what was your favorite to get to see,
• 1:06:47
  experience, talk to, etcetera. So probably the one that I had
• 1:06:57
  the most rapport with or I built the most rapport with was
• 1:07:01
  probably Index ENDEX. They're a nonprofit veteran
• 1:07:08
  support organization that from what I gathered, they do
• 1:07:13
  incredible things for vets with PTSD, or I mean, just vets in
• 1:07:17
  general. But being a bet, I mean, my
• 1:07:20
  military career wasn't what I wanted it to be, but I am very
• 1:07:24
  supportive of the veteran community.
• 1:07:26
  And I just like to see small organizations like that because
• 1:07:33
  that's when you know that they're the most pure and
• 1:07:36
  they're more, they're the most like mission focused.
• 1:07:41
  Jay came out freaking by the end of the the trip would have
• 1:07:49
  thought where we none each other for freaking years.
• 1:07:51
  Just hell of a dude. Love what they do.
• 1:07:55
  Ended up they had a little raffle and it was like $5 to
• 1:08:02
  $100. Thank God.
• 1:08:04
  I didn't want to bow. I probably would have given that
• 1:08:07
  back to him because I just saw that they had something for like
• 1:08:11
  a like a fundraiser and it was a raffle and it's like $5 for a
• 1:08:17
  ticket or like I don't know, or maybe it's $20.00 for a ticket
• 1:08:21
  and then like 6 for 100 and I had 100.
• 1:08:25
  So I was all here. Dude gave me some tickets, ended
• 1:08:28
  up winning two raffles. I got a a set of stabilizers and
• 1:08:34
  the second one was a pair of sheep feet socks, which those
• 1:08:39
  things are great. I really, really like those.
• 1:08:41
  They felt they're super thin, but they're definitely the
• 1:08:45
  temperature regulating. But yeah, I was very, that was a
• 1:08:51
  very good first impression of the booths.
• 1:08:54
  And then went over to when it started getting really cold.
• 1:09:00
  I needed another layer and I saw the 2O booth next to the check
• 1:09:05
  in, went over there, started chit chatting with them.
• 1:09:08
  They're more of like a budget friendly hunting clothing.
• 1:09:12
  Yeah, they're they're typically. I love their pattern.
• 1:09:14
  I just wish that female stuff. Oh, they don't have.
• 1:09:17
  They don't have female. Light at all?
• 1:09:19
  Not yet. They're too new.
• 1:09:20
  Yeah, they're trying to expand. So that's like they're kind of
• 1:09:24
  sister companies with a lot of other big name like budget
• 1:09:28
  companies like sent the sent lock.
• 1:09:30
  I want to say it is sent lock or sent Bakker or something like
• 1:09:32
  that. But they're I think that section
• 1:09:37
  2O is trying to expand or move from like the East Coast
• 1:09:41
  whitetail game or. They're killer.
• 1:09:43
  Greater West Coast to out West, yeah.
• 1:09:45
  And that's what they're basing, Yeah, not.
• 1:09:48
  A lot of bright greens and whatnot, very tans, oranges,
• 1:09:52
  Browns and their camo patterns Fit a lot with like the
• 1:09:58
  sometimes you just never know what he's doing, but fit a lot
• 1:10:01
  with the West Coast rocky stuff. A lot of dry environment.
• 1:10:06
  Yeah, they were great, great people over there.
• 1:10:12
  Marsupial was another one, you know, I love.
• 1:10:15
  With them being as big as they are, you'd think that they
• 1:10:19
  wouldn't be as personal, you know?
• 1:10:22
  Yeah, but because, I mean, they had people freaking in and out
• 1:10:25
  of their booth the entire weekend.
• 1:10:27
  I mean, it was one of the most pop frequented booths, I would
• 1:10:30
  say. But very cool guys.
• 1:10:33
  And it's nice because I get, like, the raw experience of it.
• 1:10:36
  Because you guys are well known in the industry.
• 1:10:39
  I am not. But being with you, I see your
• 1:10:43
  interactions with vendors and then I'm able to see, like, the
• 1:10:47
  average person's interaction because that's who I am.
• 1:10:51
  Nobody knows me except for Chris.
• 1:10:57
  So it was cool to see you guys get treated one way and then go
• 1:11:03
  up to him and without them knowing our affiliation, being
• 1:11:08
  treated the same way. Yeah, that's our marsupial
• 1:11:12
  beast. Oh, yeah, Beast.
• 1:11:14
  I mean dude, I can't say enough good things about Bomar.
• 1:11:17
  I like him and Sarah. Both great.
• 1:11:22
  I mean that dude freaking helped.
• 1:11:24
  Gave me a lot of tips that helped me out with my target
• 1:11:26
  panic. Freaking Just a very selfless
• 1:11:29
  guy from what I gathered. Always the first one, like
• 1:11:35
  glassing for people's arrows, watching everyone shoot, being
• 1:11:39
  encouraging. I shoot the freaking target in
• 1:11:42
  the leg. He goes great shot man.
• 1:11:44
  He goes. He goes a little love, but he
• 1:11:46
  goes. He's all great break.
• 1:11:49
  Freaking awesome shot arrow look good flying dude, sick arrow
• 1:11:54
  building any anything that he can compliment you on, he'll
• 1:11:59
  compliment you on. Never say negative thing or like
• 1:12:02
  kind of chop your ass at all of it isn't the vibe you would get
• 1:12:06
  from a dude. So when I when we first pulled
• 1:12:12
  up and I saw him from a distance, we took him, I saw
• 1:12:18
  him, we took a break, went to go eat and I can't.
• 1:12:22
  I was all, dude, you know, Beaumar doesn't look as big as
• 1:12:25
  he does on camera. He had a puffy on.
• 1:12:28
  And then we get back a little bit.
• 1:12:30
  Yeah. James is all, really.
• 1:12:34
  Yeah, so I. Thought he he's bigger.
• 1:12:37
  I think the cracks on that. Man, I was like, Nah, just you
• 1:12:40
  didn't seem freaking like out of out of like he looked jacked,
• 1:12:44
  but I was like, I think he looks bigger on camera.
• 1:12:47
  And then we go back over to the booth right after and he takes
• 1:12:49
  his butt or he. I think he had his puffy on or
• 1:12:52
  puffy off. And I saw him and I turned James
• 1:12:55
  on. Where's James?
• 1:12:56
  Yeah, don't fucking say a word about what I've and.
• 1:13:03
  I'm so funny, dude. Well.
• 1:13:05
  Dude, I mean we're both the same freaking height and I have had
• 1:13:11
  quite the cocktail of gear back in my neck and so he I've got
• 1:13:17
  nowhere near as big as that dude and it is hard to fill a
• 1:13:20
  freaking tall frame. Like most of those professional
• 1:13:22
  bodybuilders are between like 5/8 to 5/10 at the.
• 1:13:26
  At the mats, high end, Yeah, yeah.
• 1:13:28
  And. A lot of them are like. 55 Yeah,
• 1:13:30
  you. I never know.
• 1:13:31
  But Josh is a big dude. Josh is a freaking massive dude
• 1:13:34
  and a hell of a guy. Freaking great heart.
• 1:13:36
  Really good guy. I'm a big fan I.
• 1:13:38
  So I, I, I'll go ahead and. I know, I know.
• 1:13:41
  I'm well. Moving on, what would you say if
• 1:13:46
  you know like a recap the the best thing you think you learned
• 1:13:54
  out of the experience or just learned in general by attending
• 1:13:59
  attack? Yeah, like your your number one
• 1:14:04
  take away. So what I learned is that on a
• 1:14:08
  boat like your cams don't need to be buried to the right
• 1:14:11
  Ernest. So tune your freaking bow that
• 1:14:16
  just freaking no, your side picture doesn't need to have
• 1:14:19
  your playboard involved. For.
• 1:14:21
  A Reese more than anything, like my take away is like the most
• 1:14:30
  positive thing that I took away is that all the big
• 1:14:33
  personalities that I've been watching on YouTube that I
• 1:14:36
  didn't know in person or have any affiliation with, we're
• 1:14:41
  very, I mean, everybody's just so cool in the archery
• 1:14:44
  community. You know, I got a very raw
• 1:14:48
  encounter with with with Josh the last day we were at the
• 1:14:53
  Airbnb when he took off. He came up, give me a big hug,
• 1:14:58
  told me if I ever need anything to hit him up.
• 1:15:00
  What not then It's just nice, nice to see people with the the
• 1:15:09
  fame that they have be as down to earth and as humble as they
• 1:15:13
  are. Yeah.
• 1:15:14
  You know, I mean, I don't know everybody.
• 1:15:17
  I mean, James is the only one that I know very intimately.
• 1:15:21
  Oh yeah. Baby.
• 1:15:22
  But first impressions and being in in like very close quarters
• 1:15:31
  with people, I was very impressed with like how how Josh
• 1:15:35
  was as a person. Very good dude.
• 1:15:38
  Dodds was a awesome dude. I've had a little bit of a tiff
• 1:15:45
  with them. At first he was just chatting my
• 1:15:47
  ass, man. I'm like, dude, I'm already
• 1:15:49
  freaking nervous. This, we don't even add on to
• 1:15:51
  this, just talking. But I mean that.
• 1:15:56
  I love that regardless. Yeah, I'm a freaking.
• 1:15:59
  I'm a very competitive guy. Rarely do people get in my head
• 1:16:02
  by that, that that dude got in there.
• 1:16:06
  Everybody's just can't say enough good things about
• 1:16:09
  everybody. And thank you guys for the
• 1:16:11
  opportunity for I'm going to invite me on the trip.
• 1:16:15
  I'm glad to get to go to more, more, more of them in different
• 1:16:18
  locations because I think it's just and sometimes, you know,
• 1:16:22
  there's different vendors and obviously different people in
• 1:16:25
  attendance and whatnot. And I think that is the coolest
• 1:16:29
  thing about it because you take yourself out of your local
• 1:16:32
  environment and a local environment is great.
• 1:16:34
  You always find your experts that you rely on and lean on for
• 1:16:37
  opinions and you know, questions and whatnot.
• 1:16:40
  Yeah, your go to people, but that's, you know, that's
• 1:16:43
  localized and getting to go to attack.
• 1:16:46
  You just get to from people like Josh who are are, you know, bow
• 1:16:52
  shop owners as well and knowledgeable to like your
• 1:16:56
  average stranger who you might just hear something or, you
• 1:17:00
  know, see a setup that you're like, Jim, tell me about that
• 1:17:03
  because like, I wouldn't have thought of that.
• 1:17:04
  And then it clicks. You're like, God, that makes
• 1:17:06
  sense. Like I'd like to try that or
• 1:17:07
  whatever. You just pick up little things
• 1:17:10
  here and there from be it a stranger to a professional or an
• 1:17:13
  influencer or an expert or whatever that you may not see at
• 1:17:19
  home just because it's not something that is at home.
• 1:17:22
  Yeah, a lot of things are region based, you know, Yep, different
• 1:17:25
  people. So yeah, you do get a lot of lot
• 1:17:27
  of other people's way of doing things, which is cool.
• 1:17:32
  And brands that you don't like get to see here or whatever that
• 1:17:36
  like are at the vendor village because they're East Coast based
• 1:17:39
  or whatever. And it changes based on the tech
• 1:17:44
  you're at, so I think it's cool to go to different ones.
• 1:17:48
  And both the vendor village and the courses, everything changes
• 1:17:52
  at every tack as well as the town itself.
• 1:17:55
  Like this town, you didn't have as much to go out and do, but
• 1:18:00
  then that changes. Like that's why Oklahoma may not
• 1:18:03
  be one of like the shining star tax, but the town makes it that
• 1:18:08
  because it's like it's still you're still in this little
• 1:18:12
  essentially mountain town in those not mountains, but such a
• 1:18:16
  fun vibe in the everything's named.
• 1:18:18
  I'm gonna say again, everything's named after sex in
• 1:18:21
  the whole town. In Oklahoma, In Oklahoma in.
• 1:18:24
  Broken Bow. In Broken Bow.
• 1:18:27
  Yeah, it's classic. But it's funny and there's like
• 1:18:30
  it's family friendly as well because like you could bring
• 1:18:33
  your family and stay at one of the Airbnb cabins and the family
• 1:18:37
  can go to there's a petting zoo, a bowling alley, a bunch of
• 1:18:42
  different restaurants. And then one of the restaurants
• 1:18:45
  has like actual like line dancing and in out upper deck,
• 1:18:48
  lower deck, like just so much to do in this little town.
• 1:18:55
  And so it's just all town dependent on like what
• 1:18:59
  experience you get out of the tack.
• 1:19:01
  And sometimes that makes attack. Other times it's the event in
• 1:19:04
  the vendors itself that makes attack.
• 1:19:08
  So I'm. Just so impressed.
• 1:19:10
  Like I don't even know the a sliver of what it takes to put
• 1:19:15
  on a shoe. We have this.
• 1:19:17
  I think they employed. So freaking use me.
• 1:19:21
  I'm like dude, hit me up anytime like I want to help and I mean.
• 1:19:25
  You did a sort party. Yeah.
• 1:19:27
  But I mean that was I would like to help out more if I can next
• 1:19:32
  year. I know it's a lot.
• 1:19:33
  For you next year, I'll put I'll put you up to it, but I wanted
• 1:19:37
  to before we're we're like an hour 20 right now.
• 1:19:41
  So this is long run time. This is long run time.
• 1:19:44
  But before we finish and maybe we'll do a part another one at
• 1:19:48
  some point because I do want to do more pods this for our next
• 1:19:52
  trip, I want to talk about Flight 93 Memorial that we went
• 1:20:01
  to because I was very impressed by it.
• 1:20:08
  I thought it was extremely well done.
• 1:20:13
  Very heavy, you know, very heavy.
• 1:20:16
  But like it was beautiful at the same time.
• 1:20:19
  So you would like do that walk by that wall.
• 1:20:22
  And then there's the gate with the rock and the like flight
• 1:20:25
  path, you know, and you're just walking out there and it's like
• 1:20:29
  really pretty. But you feel this like, wait,
• 1:20:32
  you feel that very daunting. You feel that something really
• 1:20:37
  gnarly happened. Very tragic.
• 1:20:39
  And and then like the visitor center when you're walking
• 1:20:43
  through and and seeing, you know, all of us are at age where
• 1:20:46
  we're we, we remembered not all of that remember.
• 1:20:49
  Yeah. And dude, a lot of those
• 1:20:53
  graphics were like really tough to look at.
• 1:20:56
  And then the phone. Calls the phone, calls.
• 1:20:59
  Wow. Forget about it.
• 1:21:00
  I was. Yeah, PSA there.
• 1:21:02
  If you ever go to it, if, if you feel too emotional at the time,
• 1:21:06
  are already affected, do not pick up the phones, no.
• 1:21:10
  I think even there you do have. To.
• 1:21:13
  Because that that that keeps the memory of those people that
• 1:21:16
  ended up real. I mean, they prevented that
• 1:21:23
  flight from crashing in. So the Capitol building, yeah,
• 1:21:27
  you know, And it was only like, I think. 20 minutes out, I think
• 1:21:31
  20. Minutes, 20 minutes out. 20-30
• 1:21:33
  minutes from from hitting their destination.
• 1:21:37
  And I mean, they're heroes dude. Those were the first heroes of
• 1:21:41
  the war. And one thing I, Scott and I
• 1:21:43
  talked about this yesterday, we were hanging out.
• 1:21:45
  We were talking about who they experienced.
• 1:21:48
  And I was really impressed by the people on the phone call
• 1:21:54
  because they know they're going to die like that.
• 1:21:57
  You know, they know they're dying.
• 1:21:59
  You're either hitting the Capitol building and you're
• 1:22:00
  dying or you're hitting the ground and you're dying, but
• 1:22:03
  you're not getting off that plane alive.
• 1:22:05
  And they didn't sound scared. At all only one one once a.
• 1:22:08
  Little bit shook, yeah. At the, at the and all of them,
• 1:22:12
  I mean I am rightfully so, all started.
• 1:22:15
  You could tell that they were trying to keep it together and
• 1:22:18
  then they just started breaking down and.
• 1:22:20
  I was just just. Kept repeating I want you to
• 1:22:24
  know I love you, tell the family I love you, tell the kids I love
• 1:22:27
  you. She just couldn't stop repeating
• 1:22:29
  it. Yeah, she was so heavy and I was
• 1:22:32
  just so impressed with how composed all the people on those
• 1:22:36
  phone calls were. It was very impressive when you
• 1:22:39
  think about the just the weight of the call they're making and
• 1:22:43
  how kept together they were. Wonder how short their their
• 1:22:48
  voicemails were because you'd think like, I wouldn't want to
• 1:22:51
  hang up the phone. Well, they're probably, but
• 1:22:52
  they're they're like, they literally felt this need to get
• 1:22:58
  off the phone to allow everybody this chance to try to speak to a
• 1:23:02
  loved. One and the one where like the
• 1:23:03
  lady gave like her, you know, combo to her safe to her sister
• 1:23:07
  and stuff. Just like it's heavy, you know,
• 1:23:10
  because sure, when you're on the call you, you might have a, you
• 1:23:14
  know, a thought that like maybe somehow we'll make it out of it.
• 1:23:17
  But it's like, you know, you're not going to like, and that's
• 1:23:19
  the crazy part about it. Because either scenario, the
• 1:23:24
  only difference is 1 of the scenarios, more people die and
• 1:23:26
  there's more damage because you hit, you hit a building.
• 1:23:28
  The other version is the best case scenario, but everyone on
• 1:23:32
  the plane still dies. Then everyone.
• 1:23:34
  It was just heavy, dude. Or there's a scenario, I mean,
• 1:23:38
  maybe there's a pilot on the plane that could if they.
• 1:23:41
  Oh yeah, hope. Yeah.
• 1:23:42
  But that's like some real unlikely.
• 1:23:44
  Yeah, yeah. But even those planes like yeah,
• 1:23:47
  there's, I do have a book in. There 5000 gallons of freaking
• 1:23:50
  jet fuel. Oh dude, that was another thing
• 1:23:52
  that blew. Anything up like?
• 1:23:54
  That dude, that was another thing that blew my mind, was how
• 1:23:58
  the center of the plane hit. It was like a crater.
• 1:24:01
  There was like nothing there. Yeah.
• 1:24:03
  But then enough, enough blew into the trees that made it like
• 1:24:08
  that's actually like they found that credit card and it ended up
• 1:24:10
  like we do a lot of the. Terrorists, that's how they
• 1:24:13
  track the the panics through or the funding right for you.
• 1:24:18
  But if if anyone gets the opportunity, you got to go.
• 1:24:23
  Like I'm so happy that our group went and took the time to go
• 1:24:27
  over there and we didn't rush. We saw every part of it.
• 1:24:30
  We really took our time and it was just like.
• 1:24:34
  Yeah, a memorial that I've heard about obviously numerous times
• 1:24:38
  through. We have a ship in the Navy name
• 1:24:40
  the USS Somerset. And so we send 40 sailors every
• 1:24:46
  year off that ship to go in September for.
• 1:24:50
  They do memorial there and everything, obviously.
• 1:24:53
  And in my mind, I was like, this is a field like this.
• 1:25:01
  Why are we sending the no joke. Like you can call me an asshole
• 1:25:05
  if you want, but like in my mind, I'm like, we are spending
• 1:25:09
  boatloads of money because you got to think you have to house
• 1:25:12
  every sailor, every sailor's plane, every sailor's food, and
• 1:25:15
  then a vehicle per every X amount of sailors.
• 1:25:18
  It adds up real fast when you check the the tracker and you're
• 1:25:22
  like, why there are so many ships applying for outreach
• 1:25:26
  funding? Why are we sending 40 sailors to
• 1:25:31
  go to this memorial every single year?
• 1:25:33
  Like why don't we get some other ships, some opportunity and
• 1:25:35
  spread that funding out? And then like it doesn't even
• 1:25:38
  like it click, it doesn't click in your mind till you go there
• 1:25:41
  and you realize like there's a reason to spend 40.
• 1:25:44
  There were 40 heroes that day, the very first, very first
• 1:25:47
  report. So it's, it's a, it's a memorial
• 1:25:52
  in just the, the idea that we send 40 sailors as well.
• 1:25:56
  And it ends up being a little bit more because you've got some
• 1:25:59
  officers and whatnot going in attendance as well.
• 1:26:01
  It's like some civilian contractors and things.
• 1:26:04
  But there are 40 sailors attending.
• 1:26:07
  And when you go to the memorial, you don't understand until you
• 1:26:10
  realize why the number is 40 and why we continue to send that
• 1:26:15
  amount every single year regardless of the cost that it
• 1:26:18
  takes. And so like, sometimes if you
• 1:26:21
  think the military's dumping money on stupid things, just
• 1:26:23
  remember there's a reason why we're dumping money on something
• 1:26:26
  that you think is like frugal, Sir, non frugal spending.
• 1:26:31
  Yeah, sometimes. But it, it was eye opening to
• 1:26:35
  see. Like it was something that I
• 1:26:36
  had, I have funded sailors to go to for years.
• 1:26:39
  I'd helped organize their trip for it, but never actually like
• 1:26:45
  experienced it. I was just the person on the
• 1:26:47
  back end, you know, setting up their travel cost and
• 1:26:50
  everything. And then you get to actually go
• 1:26:54
  to this thing that you have, you know, organized for for years
• 1:26:59
  and see it and it is it is something else.
• 1:27:04
  It, it definitely makes you like, regardless of your job,
• 1:27:08
  whether a reservist or just doing public affairs, like
• 1:27:13
  whatever your job is, it definitely makes you like just
• 1:27:16
  weirdly feel this like bigger sense of pride in what you've,
• 1:27:20
  what you've done. And regardless like of your
• 1:27:26
  opinions on 9/11, like I I dabble in the conspiracy
• 1:27:31
  theories, but regardless, there are still 40 people, 4040
• 1:27:35
  Americans that lost their life on that plane doing what they
• 1:27:39
  thought was right. So.
• 1:27:42
  Well, and not to mention too, like there's a lot of first of
• 1:27:45
  all, it's a good thing that they stopped the plane from getting
• 1:27:47
  to the Capitol building, but also when you see the plain map
• 1:27:50
  of the seating, it was like almost empty.
• 1:27:53
  So that's a blessing too. Yeah, it was a plain quarter
• 1:27:55
  full and maybe 1/4. So thank, thank God it wasn't a
• 1:27:58
  pack flight. That'd be even worse.
• 1:28:00
  I mean, obviously it's still a super tragic, but given given
• 1:28:04
  all the stuff like it was, you know, it went pretty well.
• 1:28:07
  I mean, really well for the circumstances, you know.
• 1:28:11
  But yeah, that was my favorite part about the trip.
• 1:28:14
  And then I mean, the Pirates game was awesome too.
• 1:28:17
  Piss PNC. PNC Park is beautiful.
• 1:28:22
  Dude and skis is freaking stud. Dude, Can you imagine pitching 8
• 1:28:26
  innings, giving up one earned run and getting the loss?
• 1:28:28
  For a pile of garbage. Bro his ERAI think his I think
• 1:28:33
  his ERA now is like almost it's almost.
• 1:28:36
  Like 2. .18 It's almost some too 'cause he's had two starts since
• 1:28:40
  where he's given up like no runs.
• 1:28:42
  Dude, I mean. He's going to win the Cy Young
• 1:28:45
  unless not like he has some blow UPS.
• 1:28:46
  Yeah, but imagine if he was like on a Dodger, because he's
• 1:28:50
  probably going to end up going to the Dodgers for sure.
• 1:28:53
  I mean, I, I still wish that he would go to the Padres, but.
• 1:28:57
  He'll be traded to the Dodgers within two years, I guess.
• 1:29:00
  Like what a fucking bummer dude. Like the only thing worse could
• 1:29:05
  have been going to the Rockies. But the Rockies are what I mean.
• 1:29:09
  But still, like, even like not being with high, well, all the
• 1:29:15
  teams go through their their phases and what not.
• 1:29:17
  We're the freaking Padre fans. We're yeah, we've had our fair
• 1:29:21
  share of that for sure. Yeah.
• 1:29:23
  But even being with a team that's definitely not at the
• 1:29:27
  caliber you are and still giving your best.
• 1:29:29
  I mean, that dude was a freaking stud.
• 1:29:31
  Pitched 8 innings, gave up one run.
• 1:29:33
  That what was this solo hot? Yeah.
• 1:29:37
  Solo shot. So, yeah, I mean, overall, great
• 1:29:41
  trip. Glad.
• 1:29:43
  You know, Joey, you were able to come for your first tack and we
• 1:29:47
  were able to kind of do a little vacation with everybody.
• 1:29:49
  That was awesome. And yeah, I think that'll wrap
• 1:29:54
  up this pond. But it's been a pleasure, ma'am.
• 1:29:57
  Thank you very much for your contributions, Joey.
• 1:30:00
  Thank you, Sir. Thank you, buddy Halby.
• 1:30:03
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