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"Uniform Watch" episode 204 · DMV Mess Hall

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Hi folks, this is Rick Doc Walker to DOC this.
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Is John Kime and you're listening to the mess hall with
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rally captain and Tailgate 10. What's going on, rally?
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Happy April Fool's day, man. You know, it's April Fool's Day,
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but not only is that Ted, it's Artemis launch day, man.
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And and as I tell you, as Neil Armstrong said, this is one
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small off step for man and one giant leap for mankind.
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And, and ultimately, that's how I look at this new commanders
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offseason with everything that's coming down the pipe.
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Anyway, enough of me. How you doing bro?
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I'm good, man. I I can't wait for this day to
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end, right? It's just, I wake up and I had a
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bunch of people send me. Did you see what a barstool DMV
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put out there? Now what do you put out?
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So Barstool DMV put a picture of an old Redskins helmet and
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there's a block W with an arrow and those that are just
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listening will put it on our YouTube.
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You can watch it there and it says going back.
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Washington Commanders announced plans to revert back to Redskins
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name ahead of the 2026 NFL season in major franchise
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rebrand decision and you'd be amazed how many people thought
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that this was legit. Like you can't believe anything
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that comes out today, right? I think I saw a post and it's
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probably true that Von Miller signed with the Raiders.
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And I don't care where the hell Von Miller goes, or he's just a
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mercenary trying to get a sack record.
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And BI just don't know what to believe.
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Because it is April Fool's Day. And those of you listening and
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you're not listening to it all today and April Fool's Day, you
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know, sorry, we're rehashing stuff, but this is the one day
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of the year that I could really do without.
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Hey man, you know the thing about it is this.
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You got to just keep your head on a swivel and let things go.
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Just let it go because I got to tell you that looks legit.
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Even though in my in my heart of hearts, I know that it's not
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going to happen. Even though you see, I'm wearing
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what I'm wearing today. Oh yeah, you know, I'm not going
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to throw it away. So, and it's, it's hot outside,
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so I've got plenty of summer shirts like this.
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So hey, why not rock it? I mean, I'm sure I got the Dan
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Quinn W with the feathers on it right now I'm rocking but I'm
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looking at the post. Nowhere on here does it say like
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below, like several paragraphs down haha.
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April Fools. It just leaves it as that.
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So that's why you have all these people that are just thinking
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because did you see the team's video that went out like a week
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or two ago about the new uniforms dropping on April 15th?
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I did see the teaser and I for 1:00 AM very excited and anxious
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to see what they come up with. I mean I.
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I have a clue simply because they said it's going to be
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similar to what we wore last year, but similar and being the
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same is two different things. So who knows what they got going
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on And, and I'm sure you heard like everyone else heard the
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presser from the hall group to where they're excited as well.
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So and they have some surprises. So I they don't know what
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direction to go into. So, and that was the whole thing
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that kind of started this, right?
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Those that haven't seen it, the team put out a video on their
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socials. I'm sure you can find it.
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And it's just some delivery person bringing in two boxes.
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And then there's a shot overhead basically of the elevator
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camera. And one of them looks like it's
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a box of jerseys. The other one looks like it's a
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new helmet, right? And basically it's teasing that
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new uniforms dropping on April 15th.
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So like, all right, sweet. Well then you got this whole
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barstool thing that came out today.
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People like, Oh my gosh, they didn't wait till April 15th.
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They leaked it out. Now the old, new, old stuff is
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coming back. Like come on people.
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You guys got to be kidding me. And this is actually what Josh
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Harris said during the NFL owners meetings.
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Those wondering NFL owners meetings were going on earlier
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this week out in Arizona and Josh and DQ and Peters were all
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there talking. And this is what actually what
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Josh had to say about the uniforms if you're.
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Looking at the changes to the uniforms.
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Has. There been any discussion about
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the Block West or any sort of social or?
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Going. With the yeah, we're always
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looking at this stuff and like I said, you know, we're committed
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to the commander's name. I'm going to leave.
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We have a lot of surprise up our sleeve this this season.
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I think people will be, I'm excited to see the reaction.
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I think we've got it right. And I'm going to leave it to,
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you know, the surprise situation to allow everyone to enjoy it.
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So. So NO22262222226. 4/15/26 I
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mean. Yeah.
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The fact that he said we're committed to the commander's
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name again, it ain't going anywhere, guys.
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It I'm a little annoyed that I'm going to have to buy a New
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Jersey for whatever the hell we're going to rebrand as.
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And you know, it's a first world problem trying to fit tailgate
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Ted on the back. You trying to put Rally captain
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on the back of your jersey. It's just, you know, something
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we got to figure out and deal with.
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Once it happens, I just think about all the stuff I bought
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after we rebranded because the team had, I want to say it was
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like a it was either a 40 or a 60% off sale.
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That was just 70. Yeah, it was something
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ridiculous for season ticket holders, right?
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And going into the store that day, I took a picture of what my
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bill was and then what it dropped down to after they hit
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that discount button. Like you go to the grocery store
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and they scan items and you wonder if they got your code
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right. Not even your coupons, like just
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typing in like your phone number for like your loyalty code.
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And I always wondered, did you actually hit the button yet?
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Because I like to see the number go down as you're doing it.
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And you know, are they going to do that again with us?
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Because Mitch was just asking, is the block W going to stick
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around? What's going on?
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I actually got a commander's helmet behind me, right with
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that W like I'm going to have to get a new helmet and all this
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other stuff. But this was actually Harris
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talking a little more about the uniforms as well.
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And then you guys are? Introducing some new uniforms in
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April. You know.
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Giving away state secrets. So what kind of went into the
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process and how much of A priority was that for you when
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you came in? Yeah, it's the priority is
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honoring our past and then looking to the future, right,
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Updating but but not forgetting about our heritage, who we are
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and honoring that. And so we have a bunch of things
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up our sleeve. I don't want to ruin the
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surprise, but we're going to continue to, you know, go back
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and try to embrace our past, but then update it.
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And so stay tuned. Why was that important to you to
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to undergo that part to embrace all that?
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Why was that important? Well, because I lived, I mean, I
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lived through our path. I mean, some way, I'm only 61.
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So I, I didn't, I didn't go back before the 70s, but I was there
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for the 70s, eighties and early 90s, right?
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And so I lived through how amazing those teams were and you
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know what an impact it had on me.
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And I know that thousands of our fans or millions maybe feel the
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same way. And so I think it's important to
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go back to that as much as you can.
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But yet at the same time, we have a bright future ahead.
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So if you even the shape of the stadium and the look of the
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stadium, right, when you look at it, it looks like RFK, it
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doesn't, but it's been modernized, right?
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And so that's a great example. And so our uniforms are similar.
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I mean, some of the Super Bowl area uniforms, some, you know,
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going, you know, there's what many ways to honor our past and
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you're seeing how we treat athletes and, you know, bring
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back some of our past superstars.
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So all those things go into it. So do you think they're coming
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out with just the old Super Bowl stuff kind of updated?
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You think they're changing the helmet?
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What are you thinking? I think that there will be the
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twist of our old uniforms that we played, but with the spear
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and last year or last season, last year, Darrell Green, he had
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the spear and it was almost like when you go to a Panthers game
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with the drum and they pound on the drum or, or it was another
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Seattle Seahawks, same thing, they pound on drum to get their
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crowd or their fans up for the opening kickoff.
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And Daryl Green had that spear and he was hoisting it and
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raising it and lowering it in that fashion.
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I think that it's going to have something to do with the spear,
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whether it's on the helmet, whether it's on the pants,
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whether it's on the jersey somewhere.
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I, I do believe that that that's, I think they can play it
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safe, if you will, and where it's not going to make anyone
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upset to be able to bring that back.
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We know that the, the, the Wetzel logo, it is, it's not
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coming back. But then again, you know what
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Ted, if they brought it back with some semblance, who knows?
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Obviously, they have been thinking about it for a long
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time and they understand it that this is still a stickler for
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some fans, but most fans. So if by chance they do
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something, some type of resemblance, who knows?
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But they've been thinking about it and best believe that the
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marketing team, they've scorched the earth to figure out how they
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can bridge the old and the new together.
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And I can't wait bro. Yeah, I, I agree with you that I
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think they're going to incorporate some kind of spear
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someplace, right? It was interesting to me that
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they had a box that seemed like a helmet was in it.
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And the NFL does have rules, right?
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They've got a five year rule. Teams can only do a full uniform
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redesign once every five years. That includes new primary
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jerseys, pants designed and major branding changes.
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It makes it so the league stays somewhat stable.
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You don't have a bunch of stuff just kind of cycling in, cycling
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out. The exception is if new
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ownership came into play. So since we do have new
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ownership, they can do a significant change if they
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wanted to. And I've been seeing a bunch of
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Fanatics deals on all jerseys popping up.
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I get emails constantly from Fanatics saying jerseys are 56%
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off at the team store. Last year at the end of the
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season, all jerseys except the Super Bowl era were 50% off.
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So the Vapor Elite, like the authentic on the field jerseys,
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normally those are 300 plus. Those are going for like $1.50,
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right? To me, that was a heck of a
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steal. But then it made you think, why
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was that one on sale 50% off, but the Super Bowl era ones full
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price, right? These guys are playing chess,
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not checkers, man. And I remember we never actually
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got to talk about it on the pod, but I think it's Zach Selby does
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his mock draft for the Commanders.
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Everybody freaked out about that mock draft logo.
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And those that haven't seen it, it's on the YouTube right now.
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It's AW when a circle and then there's two Spears kind of going
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through it. So it's almost like that W is
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maybe a shield and two Roman Spears kind of going through it.
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Like reminds me of you ever see that Troy movie with Brad Pitt.
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That's kind of what I think about when I see like that spear
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or something like that. It's definitely not a a Native
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American type spear. Something more back to Roman
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times and that came out a while ago and I've seen other
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iterations of that coming from the team itself on different
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things that I I don't think they're socializing it.
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I think they're just slowly, systematically putting out into
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the ether so people get used to it.
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Well, I got to tell you. OK, so let me ask you this.
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Do you like that? I don't hate it man, it does not
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bother me because right now commanders just feels generic
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so. Well, the if the name isn't
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going to change though, so. Name's not going to change, but
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if they had something you can kind of tie it back to.
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I mean, Major Teddy's a, he's a pig, right?
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He he's got nothing to do with commanders, but if they had,
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he's. A hog, Yeah.
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Hog. He's a hog, I get it.
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But if they had something, they kind of could tie it back to
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that. This is why we're this if
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actually a clip I didn't cut up. Guy was asking about naming
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rights for the new stadium and Harris said it's way too early
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for that. But to have that be the
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Colosseum, if, you know, were the commanders from kind of
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those old times, I think they'd be kind of bad ass.
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And Speaking of new stadium, this was actually Harris talking
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about some updates on the stadium.
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What's what's the latest on the stadium?
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Is it? On track for your timeline.
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On track, On track, Totally on track, hard at work on so many
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cool things when you start to think about it.
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But basically we're starting a utility construction this month.
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Next year the about this time we'll start construction, we're
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picking, we're doing some of the detailed design features and you
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know, there's so many cool opportunities with the
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innovation in stadiums. I mean, you know, whether it's
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the shape of the scoreboard, which we may have some things up
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our sleeve on, whether it's size of the scoreboard, the sound,
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this, the nature of the roof, you know, where the premium, how
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close many of the seats are relative to other stands.
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So many great opportunities. But we're definitely on track
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and looking for this is going to be an amazing project.
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It's the funnest part of every week for me is spending several
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hours on the stadium. So I'm excited to hear that
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they're on track and that things are going as planned.
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I am surprised that it doesn't seem like they're going to be
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breaking ground until April 2027.
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That to me seems kind of late. But obviously these guys know
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what they're doing because if you drive by there, there's
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nothing there. Well, if you're laying
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groundwork for utility stuff, wouldn't that be considered
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breaking ground? I mean, maybe I, maybe I have a
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different outlook on breaking ground.
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I thought breaking ground was when you start doing what he
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said they're doing and, and which is they're starting to put
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the utility stuff down. I would have thought that you
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break ground. Hey, here we are.
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We're we're we're putting shovels in the ground right now
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because you don't lay it on top of the ground.
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Obviously it has to go underneath.
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So that's why I would have thought that that they would
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have had the golden shovels and the hard hats and then the photo
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op, you know, putting the shovels in the ground.
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But what do I know? I'm I'm just you could.
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Be right. I mean, you definitely could be
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right. I just I'm envisioning on
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there's nothing ceremonial about them putting in some, you know,
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CAT6 cables and pipes underneath.
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Yeah, it is. That to me is just boring old
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infrastructure. So what do you want to see?
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What do you what what What does Tailgate Ted want to see?
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Breaking ground? A structure in the background.
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No, I want the fact that they're literally they're bringing in
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cement, they're going to start building that foundation with
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rebar and everything else that they're putting inside there.
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So I just, I'm a little surprised that it's going to
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take a year to get to that point, right when we're actually
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going to start seeing some of that construction because the
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thing has been demolished, taking apart piece by piece for
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some time now. And I know people are wondering,
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are they going to meet that timeline and you know, the
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Women's World Cup when that gets out of here, I think in 23rd and
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everything else. But I'm not putting anything
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past these guys, man. They, they have a vision and
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they don't let anything get in their way from meeting them and
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just seeing everything they've done so far.
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These guys have a goal and there was a question that JP Finley
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said, you know, famously said Josh Harris, you're not an F
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minus kind of guy. And he basically came back, said
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no, not and he's investing more money into Northwest Stadium.
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And during his comment he said we know that there's very little
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ROI. For those that don't know, that
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means return on investment to put money into Northwest because
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the stadium is going away. But he said we have to invest
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that money because our season ticket holders, our fans deserve
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a good experience. So we're fine putting money into
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the old stadium knowing that we're not going to get a ton out
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of that in return because we're putting all this other money
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into the new stadium on top of it.
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So I just, I love hearing that they're not going to neglect
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where we're going to be playing for the next 4 years while
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they're still building this monstrosity around the corner.
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That's a good thing, really is. It really is.
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Because let's let's face it, you don't want any more pipes
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leaking rainwater or anything else in between.
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That wasn't a good look. This is a good look.
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We understand that that that these grown men know that you
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know what? Even though I'm driving a
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hoopty, I've got to put oil in the engine in order to keep it
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running. They understand that.
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So that's what I like about them.
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They're not just going to let it go by the wayside.
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And here's the other thing. They understand that we're five
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years away, so Can you imagine not doing anything and just
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having people in the dilapidated building?
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Think about when RFK had the Nets or the soccer team.
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It wasn't good, bro. It, it wasn't good.
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And they weren't trying to put too much into it because they
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knew that it was going by the wayside.
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So I'm sure you went to a couple or maybe you did.
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Did you ever go to any, any soccer games there?
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No. I've definitely been to some
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United games there and I was just at the Columbia, France
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game back at the stadium the other day, like this past
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weekend, right? And I saw some improvements just
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from last football season to now, so.
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They're doing some the RFK Stadium, they did the fans a
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disservice when the United was there and and Nats were there
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even though they tried. But so they understand we got to
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have a segment, if you will, of what we don't like, if you will.
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So and I I'm, you know, we're going to continue the show, but
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just keep that feathering your cap what we don't like, and I'm
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going to expound on that later on, so.
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What's the next topic, my brother?
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Keep it rolling. So in regards to Jayden and the
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flag football game, did you watch it?
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No, I was too busy. I heard about it, but I I didn't
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I didn't watch it. We had guests in town so Missus
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Tailgate was being tour guide taking them all over town.
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The last thing I want to do living downtown is deal with
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cherry blossom traffic and all these people.
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So I just I sat at home, did not want to be bothered.
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And then my Twitter timeline's going crazy and I'm seeing all
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these pictures. I've completely slept on the
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flag football game. So I went back and watched the
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entire thing because Grant Paulson, there are a bunch of
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people that were like, what? How's Jaden going to play in
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this? What's going on?
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He's going to get hurt. He's Mr. Glass fans forget that
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he played the entire 2024 season.
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It it just, I, I don't understand how they just
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systematically just got out of the brain that Jayden played all
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of 24 and took us to a championship and it's flag
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football and I get being concerned about it, but this is
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actually what Adam Peters had to say about Jayden participating.
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I. Have to ask.
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Jayden. Just everything he dealt with
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last season was there. Any concern about him
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participating in the football game?
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Did you watch it? I try not to watch too much of
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it, but we, I mean, we, we talked about this really for I
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gosh, when did it start that when the thing came out maybe in
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September. So we've we've had an open
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dialogue with Jayden about that. Throughout and so obviously
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you're concerned I think. All of us probably concerned
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about that, not just me, probably me the most, but but
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understanding that it's something that was important to
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him. And and, you know, just talking
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about the risk and the risk versus reward and, and all that.
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And then he's going to make the decision on his own in terms of
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that. But we supported whatever he
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wanted to do. And you know, he loved the thing
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about Jane. He loves football, he loves
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playing, he loves competing and. So, you know, I think that was
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something that was important to him.
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So I'm glad he did it. I'm glad he came out.
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So it was Team USA versus a bunch of NFL players, some
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former players. You had Gronk and Brady out
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there. You had Odell Beckham out there.
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Odell had a disgusting one handed catch.
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But Team USA kicked the NFL players ass man.
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The first game was 39 to 14. The second game, and keep in
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mind the NFL players didn't play all the time.
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So it was two different teams for the NFL.
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It was the Wildcats FFC and the Founders FFC and the Wildcats
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team had Jaden and Joe Burrow on it and the Founders had Peyton,
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not Peyton, sorry Brady and had Jalen Hurts.
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Jalen threw a pick 6 which I love seeing that replay couple
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of times. But Team USA beat Brady's team
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43 to 16. They just mopped him up and down
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the field. It was obvious that it's just a
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very, very different game. Flag football versus NFL,
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obviously in regards to you can't tackle the guy, different
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rules. You can't.
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Like flag guard, you can't jump up in the air.
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You leave your feet, you're down.
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I don't think the NFL players, not all of them, but a majority
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of them knew what any of the rules were.
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And it was just kind of sad to watch because I don't think the
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NFL players took it serious. I just think that they thought
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I'm a pro athlete. We're going to be able to smoke
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these guys. And that could have been closer
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or farther from the truth. Play it down to the competition.
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That's what they thought and there was a guy, I think it was
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last year, that said he's a better flag football quarterback
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than Patrick Mahomes and people gave him so much crap.
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I honestly believe it, what this guy did, just because it's such
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a different game on the nuances of what you're allowed to do.
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I think that he'd be better than Mahomes.
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And flag football is going to be in the Olympics.
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I signed up to the LA 28 Olympics.
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You can try and sign up for different sports you want to go
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watch. Flag football is one of the
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sports that I chose. I wanted to go watch.
24:37
And some of these NFL players, they definitely want to
24:40
represent the US. I don't know if they're going to
24:43
make the cut, man. I'm not too sure if that's going
24:45
to happen. Well, I do understand the
24:52
premise. And a lot of football, let's
24:55
face it, is about brute strength.
24:59
Black football isn't about brute strength, you know.
25:02
So on one hand, you got a guy who's, who's shoulder square
25:07
ready to knock your block off. On the other hand, a guy who has
25:11
quick hands to just grab your flag and put it down and say, I
25:14
got it. So it's totally different.
25:16
And, and the, the, the, it's football, but but it's totally
25:20
different. So I can see that.
25:24
And once again, Patrick Mahomes is, is looking at certain keys,
25:30
if you will, for tackle football versus flag is, is different.
25:35
So I, I can see that. I really can.
25:38
Guess who is actually trying out for Team USA?
25:45
Let's see. Burgundy and gold legend.
25:49
Oh, RG3. No, no, I said.
25:51
Legend. He's not a legend. 2012 is a
25:56
legendary year, man. Come on man.
25:58
He is not. One year does not make you a
26:00
legend, man. No way in my book does one year
26:04
make you a legend, Darryl Green Man.
26:07
DG that's right, yeah. So DG submitted an app.
26:12
I don't know what consisted of that, if it was tape and
26:16
everything else, but DG is going to try and be on the flag
26:20
football team. And like you said, it's about
26:23
speed. And that is one thing that that
26:25
man is, is fast. So you can't block anybody.
26:31
You can't even get in the way of somebody.
26:33
The way it works is you've got guys are going out on routes and
26:38
they had a free rusher coming at you.
26:40
If you literally make that rusher sidestep to get around
26:43
you, that's a flag. Brady, Jaden Burrow, all those
26:47
guys were under pressure the second that ball was hyped to
26:50
him. So speed kills in flag football.
26:54
And man, I, I, I follow DG on Instagram and everything else,
26:59
the guy seems like he still has it.
27:01
And I, I know it's different when you put the pads on and
27:03
he's out there laying hits or getting hit, but he ain't laying
27:07
any hits here. Except Burrow did get knocked
27:10
down a couple of times and actually took a couple of hits.
27:13
And that's what I saw when my Twitter went crazy because he
27:16
definitely got tackled, if you will, because they grabbed his
27:19
flag and then he went down as part of it.
27:23
Oh, OK. Well, I guess the reason why
27:25
there's no guess to it, the reason why I said RG3 is because
27:28
I heard that he's trying out for the Olympics.
27:30
And so that's what I thought, let me play football.
27:33
That's why I thought that so. He's trying, man, he's trying.
27:36
And I hope for our sake he doesn't make it because I.
27:41
Really. Man, he is just RG me is what I
27:45
call him. It is all about him.
27:47
If he makes the Olympic team, it is not going to be about the
27:51
Olympics or Team USA. It's going to be out what he did
27:55
and his true colors shined when all he cared about during his
28:00
press conferences was talking about him, not the other players
28:03
around him. And that's what impresses me so
28:05
much about JD 5 is he gives props to everybody but himself.
28:10
And Robert to me only cares about himself and the last thing
28:14
we need is him on stage and I don't know I just that guy
28:18
drives me a little crazy and I still hurt that I bought that
28:21
expensive ass jersey that I was not 50% off and still sitting in
28:25
my closet. Hey, man, everyone did.
28:29
Everyone did. I mean, the city, the city was
28:32
so lacking of anything when he came to where we jumped on it.
28:39
And I mean, let's face it, when was the last time he won that
28:42
many games? I mean it it, it was, it was a
28:43
while. Yeah, it's been a long time.
28:46
Yeah, so I I can understand it. You know, we all jumped on the
28:49
bandwagon. I mean, I think that he was the
28:52
one who started the whole bucket hat, let me tell you.
28:55
So you remember that bucket hat craze that RJ Three had, right?
29:00
I would happen to be in Florida at a sports memorabilia shop,
29:05
and I saw the bucket hat and I said, man, that's a nice hat.
29:08
I just happened to pick it up on a whim just because it was
29:12
Redskins and it looked cool at the time he wore that bucket hat
29:16
and they all sold out. I had people wanting to give me
29:20
money for my bucket hat back then.
29:23
And so no matter what he, we, we were starving just that much for
29:28
any type of attention from for, for the on the nationwide scale
29:33
to where anything the man did because he was RG3, it it, it
29:38
popped. And so like you and like many of
29:42
our listeners, you know, we got RG3, if you will.
29:48
We definitely did, but one hat I will not be buying.
29:53
Did you see the Commander's draft hat for this season?
29:57
I did see it with the pin in it. So the pin they put a pin in
30:02
like the pin last year was just a hog, which I actually liked
30:06
that hat and that pin. This hat to me man, looks like
30:10
other than I don't know if this is silver around the West, it
30:15
looks like they had extra hats that they just kind of put that
30:19
around there as a little border and then change the inside the
30:23
hat. The only thing I like about it
30:25
is a cherry blossoms on the inside and you can't even see it
30:28
because you're wearing the hat. OK, I was going to say that, but
30:33
you beat me to it. I get it.
30:36
This could come down to be a collector's item.
30:38
It could be some years down the line.
30:41
But like you said, incorporate the cherry blossoms on the
30:45
outside of the hat, not the inside of the hat.
30:49
And it's what, $45.46 dollars? You probably have to order
30:53
$50.00 worth of something so you can get free shipping.
30:55
So it's going to have you have to spend more money than that or
30:58
get it on ship. Or you can just go to the
30:59
Commander store. But I typically buy all the
31:02
draft hats. This legit looks like a hat that
31:05
I already own. Other than that outline around
31:08
the West and in the inside that no one's ever going to see.
31:12
So I could just get a draft pin and put that pin on the hat I
31:16
already have, no? One would be the wiser.
31:18
And no one would know because you're not going to see the
31:21
inside of my hat. So I was a little disappointed.
31:25
I haven't bothered to look at the other teams draft hats and
31:28
what they did because I'm not buying it.
31:31
But I was hoping for something a little more creative.
31:34
I feel that Fanatics, I don't know.
31:38
They're, they're not wowing me with anything that I have.
31:42
I'm going to a couple World Cup matches and as we're sitting
31:45
here, I'm I finally got a number for my queue.
31:47
I'm 21 more minutes until I can actually buy some more World Cup
31:50
tickets. And I've been on this since
31:51
10:00 AM and it is seven right now.
31:54
But I just feel that Fanatics stuff that they come out with,
31:58
it's just kind of plain and boring.
31:59
Maybe, at least for our team, I don't know.
32:01
That's that's why you have the the pro standard, the Mitchell
32:07
Ness. I mean, you have so many other
32:10
companies that are jumping into the game because people want to
32:14
be different. They want to see other
32:18
iterations of hats. And I, you know, me, I always
32:24
like to be different. I don't ever want to wear
32:26
anything off the rack, even though this shirt is off the
32:29
rack. But you know, I, I, I'm big into
32:31
custom stuff because I want to be different.
32:34
I, I don't want to be the same guy that you see down walking
32:37
out on into the stadium. I want to be a little different.
32:40
So, but these other pop up companies are coming up to
32:45
showcase their wares and people are buying them.
32:48
And if I was ever have a a a contact I got plenty of ideas
32:53
that would just make things pop and people would want to buy it.
32:59
I just don't have any contacts like that.
33:01
Yeah, I get all my stuff from Breaking T I'm not shy about it.
33:04
I mean, this shirt's from Breaking T and I've got a
33:07
Commission link. If you buy a Breaking T-shirt
33:09
with my link, I'll get a couple dollars back.
33:11
That'll help me with the tailgate and everything else
33:13
that we do. So.
33:15
But yeah, I'm looking at the Falcons hat right now.
33:18
It literally looks just like an old Falcons hat with that silver
33:23
outline. At least I think it's silver.
33:25
And inside the hat, it's a picture of Peaches for Georgia.
33:30
So I mean, I feel that you could have, you could have taken the
33:34
outside and maybe put that on the back of the hat like back
33:40
here instead of inside it. So you could actually see some
33:43
of it. Like you said, take the cherry
33:45
blossoms and put it on the outside.
33:46
Like I've got a Nationals hat, The cherry blossom hat that they
33:49
came out with, I love. That yeah, that's different.
33:54
The jersey that they have with the cherry blossoms, I mean,
33:57
it's that type of stuff that's unique.
33:59
And a matter of fact, when, oh, forgive me, who came up with
34:04
that? The the jackets, I can't
34:06
remember the name. Of the DC proper.
34:08
DC proper, those jackets sold out in a hobby.
34:11
Why? Because they were different.
34:13
But they still told a story behind DC and if I'm not
34:18
mistaken they have cherry blossoms with the monument.
34:22
Right on the slip. Right on the slip.
34:24
So come on, guys, come on. They need to hire you man.
34:30
Maybe get a new air on fanatics to bring you on board so they.
34:33
Oh bro, I'd set them straight, at least for commander stuff.
34:37
I, I, I can't speak of anybody else, but for commander stuff,
34:40
I'd set them straight and have, I've got plenty of ideas that I
34:44
know people would, they wouldn't be able to stay on the shelf.
34:47
I know. I mean, it's apparent that they
34:49
just take one design and then just throw it across the.
34:53
Restaurant and roll with it. They don't bother making
34:56
anything unique per team, which it's a shame, right?
34:59
It really is a shame because if you had something focused for
35:02
that region, I think you get more people that would buy it,
35:05
more people that would rock it. Well, this, so I can see these
35:10
type of hats being the same, but as we get into the season, they
35:16
normally do flip the script and change the iterations, if you
35:20
will, because now I've even seen cream commander's hat, colored
35:26
commander's hat. So, you know, so right now for
35:29
this, I can kind of understand, Hey, look, we know we got to get
35:31
this stuff out. All right, fine, let's get it
35:33
out. But as the season goes on,
35:36
you'll see different type of hats and different styles and
35:38
colors and, and, and color matches and things of that
35:41
nature. So, yeah, but right now, like
35:43
you said, this doesn't move me to, to want to.
35:46
We can go on eBay and get a $3 pin NFL pin and stick it on the
35:51
hat and none the wiser. I'd love to see something unique
35:55
about the draft hats in the city where the draft is.
35:58
Nothing about our town, but the fact that it's going to be in
36:02
Pittsburgh this year, throw something on there that kind of
36:06
signifies that that draft was in Pittsburgh, right?
36:09
Next year it's going to be on the National Mall.
36:12
Josh Harris was talking. They're expecting a million
36:15
people on the mall for the draft here in DC next year, right?
36:18
Throw. Something.
36:19
Iconic there. So you change it up and do that
36:22
man. Maybe you and I need to cut this
36:24
clip up and set up the new era so they can put us on payroll
36:27
and give us a little bit of what's my money on the back end.
36:32
But did you hear who's looking for some more money that might
36:35
be locked out instead? Who's?
36:38
Looking for more money? The NFL refs, they're talking
36:43
about having some scab referees coming in.
36:47
So during the NFL owners meeting, they voted on a couple
36:51
of things, right. One thing they voted on, you can
36:55
do onside kicks anytime in the game.
36:58
Previously you can only do onside kicks in the fourth
37:00
quarter. So it's a step in the right
37:04
direction. The problem is.
37:06
Go ahead, go ahead. You have to.
37:08
I was going to. The onside kick.
37:10
OK. And that's what I was going to
37:12
say it. So that's Boo the the best thing
37:15
you could ever do is an unscripted onside kick where the
37:18
team I. Mean an ambush.
37:19
Onside kick, yeah, where the team didn't know it and and the
37:22
probability, I'm sure it was a lot higher because they weren't
37:25
expecting it. So the fact that, OK, you can do
37:29
it now like we we're getting our ass kicked against the Seahawks,
37:32
we probably could have used a couple of onside kicks that game
37:35
if we ever actually scored or anything happened, but we had to
37:38
wait until the fourth quarter till we could actually do it.
37:39
So OK, they're changing that rule.
37:42
NF LS going to allow it now all the time.
37:45
They are changing the kickoff rule if it goes out of bounds,
37:48
if the ball goes out of bounds prior, it will get placed at the
37:52
40. Now it's getting placed at the
37:54
50. So they really want to make sure
37:56
you give teams a chance to run it back because to get the ball
37:59
to 50, I mean, I think that Dallas kicker could probably
38:02
make a field goal from there. He could.
38:05
He's done it. Yeah. 60 yards, right?
38:07
65 yards, something like that. I think he had like a yeah 60
38:10
and some change. So you really it forcing, you
38:13
know, kickoff teams to make sure they get it in there.
38:15
And now they're changing the alignment of the receiving team
38:18
in the setup zone. Don't know exactly what that is.
38:21
But more importantly, the league is allowing for one year to have
38:29
miss penalties or incorrect calls come from the command
38:33
center. So I don't know if that's New
38:36
York, but if a Rep. Misses a call kind.
38:40
Of like USFL, at that point, if a Rep misses a call, they can
38:45
radio in and say no, this should have been a flag because
38:50
officials are going to possibly be holding out.
38:54
And I think the last time there was a holdout was 2012.
38:58
And they can't agree to pay. The officials want to be full
39:03
time. They're part time right now.
39:05
There's a bunch of stuff that they are not seeing eye to eye
39:08
on. So part of the owners meetings,
39:10
the NFL owner said we're going to have replacement refs.
39:14
We're going to have to have some other guys back at HQ making
39:18
sure the calls that they miss aren't that egregious.
39:22
So this kind of reminds me of Ragnar when the the, the mascot,
39:27
he used to be the mascot of the Vikings.
39:30
Ragnar was a obviously a human being.
39:33
He would ride his motorcycle out on the field and Ragnar said,
39:37
hey, you guys are paying me. I don't know, hypothetically,
39:39
let's just say hypothetically because I don't know, you guys
39:42
are paying me $1000 a game. Well, you know what?
39:45
I think I need $6000 a game. And Ragnar priced itself out of
39:50
being the mascot and now they have this, this guy kind of
39:55
anime, if you will, this, this character that comes out.
39:59
But these refs are going to price themselves out.
40:04
And let's face it, there's going to be someone else who will step
40:08
in and do that job, bro. And, and, and whether it's for
40:12
the good or for the bad, somebody's going to do that job.
40:17
The other thing, Ted, is this man, the NFL makes a lot of
40:21
money, man. They make a they make a lot of
40:24
money. You come on, guys.
40:27
I don't, I don't know about the as far as being full time is
40:29
concerned, because what are you going to do in the offseason?
40:31
You know, are they like cheerleaders?
40:33
They get paid per game or whatever.
40:36
I mean, how does that even work? I, I mean, they're part time, so
40:39
I don't know if it's per game. I I do know that the NFL wants
40:43
to award referees that have better calls that have more
40:49
consistent calls. So you have different refs that
40:52
are on different spots in the postseason.
40:55
So it wouldn't surprise me if they got paid, not on a per game
40:58
basis, but if you're a ref and you suck, we're not going to
41:02
have you during the playoffs. The guys that are in the
41:03
playoffs get bonus money, stuff like that, so.
41:07
Well, how many how many times have we heard?
41:09
How many times have we heard basically, Oh, that's Oculi.
41:12
Oculi calls hope he calls a close game, a tight, tight game
41:16
and and sure enough, last minute of the game or whatever have
41:19
you. He'll call that play and you're
41:21
like, come on, dude. So we know what reps do that all
41:25
the time. Matter of fact, even on the show
41:27
you said, hey, this crew is Rep officiating the game.
41:30
So don't be surprised if you see this.
41:33
They know some guys are just sticklers than other guys.
41:35
Yeah, there's a scouting report on teams, and this is a scouting
41:38
report on refs. The commanders have a guy that
41:42
does research on the referees that are calling that game.
41:44
It's no secret. It's posted before the game on
41:48
who's calling what. And you know, this guy likes to
41:51
call holding if you're grabbing guys from here versus out here
41:54
and just other spots, things to focus on, things to worry about.
41:57
And teams aren't dumb. They also send in footage of
42:01
other teams and bring it to the refs attention before the game
42:04
that so and so's been doing this where I remember Commanders game
42:08
back in the day where the long snapper for a team we were going
42:11
against would grab the ball and make it flinch.
42:14
And I remember, I think it was Rivera at the time specifically
42:17
said, yeah, we brought it to their attention.
42:19
We showed them tape and the referee called it.
42:22
So there's a lot of gaming back and forth.
42:25
I'm just concerned that a league that makes billions of dollars
42:31
is so hesitant and that they are willing to degrade the quality
42:35
of their products and think that allowing someone not there,
42:41
allowing someone in New York or wherever headquarters is, LA,
42:45
wherever the hell it is to be able to call a foul remotely.
42:50
That to me is not the answer to this problem of a potential
42:54
lockout. And I think that's what they're
42:57
going to do for a little bit until either the refs cave or
43:02
the owners cave, because a lot of referees have second jobs
43:05
because it's not a full time job for them.
43:07
They've got second jobs. Maybe they, you know, party too
43:10
much and play too much pickleball like I do and buy too
43:12
many paddles. I don't know.
43:14
But they got second jobs. And some of these guys just
43:16
don't want to have the second job.
43:18
I'd love to know what the average salary is for the head
43:25
ref to the line judge to to the back judge.
43:29
Yeah, I, I would like to know what those salaries are to see.
43:32
OK. You know, the average person,
43:36
I'm going to just say at at at their full time job is, is let's
43:40
just say 15111, no 100 a 100,000 for the for the year.
43:46
And that's kind of high, I think with the average salary.
43:50
OK. So if a ref is is, is, is it is
43:53
making that or less, then I tend to agree with them.
43:58
But if refs are made, what do you think refs make, Ted, I
44:01
don't know. What do you think?
44:02
I just I just looked it up within $50,000.
44:08
How much do you think a head ref makes?
44:11
Within 50,000. Within 50,000.
44:15
Per year. Per year per.
44:17
Per season for OK for so, so basically six months out of the
44:20
year, I'm going to say 200 two 100,000. 200,000. 200,000. 250K
44:34
is what a head ref according to this website Multi Networks.
44:40
You killed off of that. I that, that, that's insane to
44:43
me that these guys have second jobs, right?
44:45
And they also get bonuses. So if you're the ref for the
44:49
Super Bowl, the ref gets 50 to $60,000 for the Super Bowl.
44:55
What would they do if they were driving Uber DoorDash?
44:57
I don't. Know.
44:59
Man. I'd love to see that guy's tax
45:03
forms since it's tax season right now and what his second
45:05
job is because man OK let's the line judge the back judge within
45:11
50K. What do you think it is?
45:15
Not to see, I don't I OK, so if he's 200,000, I go down 50,000,
45:20
I'll say 150. I should have made this harder
45:24
man. So it's 1:50 to 200,000 from a
45:30
line judge to a back judge. Dude, do you do you know how
45:35
many people would love to make 200,000 or 150,000?
45:41
I'm raising my hand right now, yeah.
45:42
Yeah, yeah, for six months. How?
45:45
How about this? How about the guy who wears the,
45:48
the, the, the bright green gloves that cause the time and
45:52
you know the, that you see him on the sideline.
45:54
Matter of fact, our friend Drew, he does it sometime.
45:56
I'm gonna have to ask him what he gets paid.
45:59
I don't want to get that deep into it, but I don't want to ask
46:01
anybody that. But I'd like to know, you know,
46:04
the, even the, the smallest person, you know, the, the guy
46:08
who brings out the freaking replay monitor.
46:13
What does he get paid? Because this is this is a lot of
46:18
money, man. It is, man.
46:20
And it's saying here that the clock operator guy is 400 to 800
46:24
a game. So that's still not bad.
46:27
You're sitting there, you get a sideline view of the game.
46:29
And Drew, listen to the podcast. He's a commander, season ticket
46:33
holder, die hard Burgundy and Gold fan, and he'd be at the
46:37
game regardless. So now he's on the sideline and
46:40
he's wearing the orange gloves and helping with the clock.
46:42
And people who've been to a game, you see a guy sitting
46:44
there waving his hand, telling the clock to go, telling the
46:46
clock to move, or having the clock stop.
46:48
So 4 to $100 a game. Now I can see how Drew can
46:51
afford some of those away games he goes to.
46:56
Yeah, Drew's a good guy. Very good guy.
46:59
I'm hoping they they just come to some agreement, man, because
47:03
yeah. Yeah, it makes sense.
47:06
The the most, the most watched sport on the planet, the most
47:11
watched sport on the planet and you don't want to pay you guys.
47:15
I mean, that's that's something. But at the same time, I think
47:18
that some of those reps, mate, might need to temper a little
47:21
bit of their expectation because if I'm not mistaken, they get to
47:23
fly free. They don't pay for flights out
47:26
of their own pocket. You know, the hotel is taken
47:28
care of, everything is taken care of.
47:30
What do you mean? I mean, then again, they could
47:33
say you don't know what you're talking about, kid.
47:35
And I would say you're right. I don't know because I don't.
47:38
But it just seems like from the on layman's terms from a guy who
47:42
makes, you know. Less than that, yeah.
47:46
Less than 250. Less than 250 a year for six.
47:50
Months, a lot less than that. I'm getting by.
47:55
I'll be it by the skin of my teeth, but I'm getting by.
47:57
Come on, guys. I mean, bring it down a little
48:00
bit. And and that's not for someone
48:04
to complain about part time and you're getting well over six
48:07
figures. OK.
48:11
I've, I'm never going to really agree with the owners per SE,
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because it is a billion dollar company.
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So I I feel that everybody should get paid and get a piece
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of that pie, but it's hard for me to feel sad.
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I'm not going to have a little tiny violin on playing for these
48:27
referees if it comes Week 1 and they're not on the field until
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the replacement guy screws us over and calls a dumb ass
48:35
penalty on us. It has us lose the game, get
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that replacement ref out of here.
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Well, hey, you know what I told you?
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We got a segment. The last segment of the Gay of
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the day is what you don't like about the NFL.
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Ted, I'm going to let you start off.
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What don't you like about the NFL?
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I have a feeling to know what yours is going to be.
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You know mine is going to be I'm.
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I'm going to not even take it, man.
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I wish that they would just come to an agreement with the players
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right now about this, a team game season.
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OK. We know what's going to happen.
49:16
We know that the players are holding out right now.
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Just agree to pay them, bring in two bye weeks and get it done.
49:25
With all this speculation going back and forth about is it going
49:29
to be 18, the players saying no, just get it done.
49:32
Stop pussyfunting around. Because you know we have 3
49:37
preseasons now you know that it's going to make it 2
49:40
preseason games and and and grandfather the other game in to
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make it 18 two. By weeks, bigger roster, just
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just go ahead and do it. More money and and now the bad
49:51
thing about that, Ted, is we what we don't want is the NFL to
49:55
turn out to be how the basketball is and they and they
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take a game. But the players say, you know
50:00
what? I need a rest game.
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You you. You don't want that.
50:04
Load management when you only have 18 games, I don't think
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we're going to see that. But they're talking about having
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every NFL team eventually play a game overseas.
50:15
So the travel to Australia, I know Kyle Shanahan was just
50:20
talking about it. He's not looking forward to it.
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So if that's going to happen, I don't know if I'm going to go to
50:26
every International Commanders trip at that point.
50:31
Well, that's another subject. So for you, what are you pissed
50:36
off about? I'm pissed off about you can
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give me the first game of the season's international game of
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September 10th, but you can't announce not just the Commanders
50:48
overseas game, but, and that's what I care about.
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I don't care about the other teams.
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But if you could announce that the first game is September
50:55
10th, clearly you can announce when the other games are
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overseas in the United States. I don't mind because let's face
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it, you can prepare a little bit better because it's stateside.
51:09
But we know that hypothetically a plane ride to London is 1200
51:17
bucks. Let's just say, let's just say
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on average about 1200 bucks. You know, a plane ride in the
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States is 300. You know what I mean?
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There's a big difference. It costs more money.
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You guys are doing your fans a disservice and maybe you don't
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care. Maybe you don't care that that
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you know, a person's got to figure out a way to to make that
51:37
trip or eat or or make get their medicine or whatever, maybe
51:42
repairing the car or whatever have you.
51:44
But you, you, you, you have to look at it outside the box,
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guys. We know you're the big NFL.
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We get it and we love you guys, but come on, just change it up a
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little bit. If we're playing an overseas
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games, you guys already know what those dates are.
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Let the fans know so that they can prepare.
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That's all I ask. All I ask from a fan's point of
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view, you guys know already, just like you knew September
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10th. Let the fans know when the
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international game dates are so that they can make their plans.
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Because you want representation of your team overseas.
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You just do. That's why we did it.
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We we, we sold out Madrid and and we had the dates kind of
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early a little earlier. So do the same for us.
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All right, That's what I don't like about the NFL.
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