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- 0:00Speaker 1: Coming up on the Wild Wild Web, but more than
- 0:02Speaker 1: fifty percent of the UK couldn't get this basic grammar
- 0:04Speaker 1: question correct.
- 0:05Speaker 2: How will John o' and Meaghan fair next.
- 0:08Speaker 3: Welcome to the untanged realm of the world's wide Web,
- 0:12Speaker 3: a swirling vortex of weirdness, bullying, and self obsessed social
- 0:17Speaker 3: media posts. In this digital jungle. Joonaan being a your
- 0:21Speaker 3: fearless guide leading you through the wildest parts of the
- 0:25Speaker 3: wild wild Web. This is the wild Wild Web.
- 0:31Speaker 1: Welcome belong to another edition of the wild wild Web,
- 0:33Speaker 1: where we like to chat about something that we've seen
- 0:35Speaker 1: on the wild place as the Internet. There's all sorts
- 0:38Speaker 1: of you guys. You've both been playing some videos at
- 0:40Speaker 1: the moment. While I'm doing that.
- 0:41Speaker 4: I'm watching because everyone's going on about Ariana Grande how
- 0:44Speaker 4: she's changed her voice for Glinda, and so there's an
- 0:48Speaker 4: interview where she's talking and then she's a la la
- 0:51Speaker 4: la la, and it completely changes halfway through. I mean,
- 0:55Speaker 4: she could talk over how she wants to do it.
- 0:57Speaker 1: She said the audio when she was acting in the
- 1:00Speaker 1: younger Nickelodeon or Disney whatever it was where she first started,
- 1:03Speaker 1: and it was her voice.
- 1:05Speaker 2: Was very irritating what was the show? Friend know, she
- 1:12Speaker 2: was net Selena? What was Arias? It was Antress?
- 1:16Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I plugged the old computer and it is really.
- 1:22Speaker 4: I have a soft spot for Arianna.
- 1:23Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she looks cool. She's cool, she's.
- 1:25Speaker 4: Been through she's been through a lot in her.
- 1:27Speaker 2: Career, victorious.
- 1:28Speaker 4: You're right, Yeah, And I met her and she could
- 1:32Speaker 4: not have been more nice.
- 1:34Speaker 2: So she was so sweet and it's fine, but she
- 1:37Speaker 2: can still have an annoying voice.
- 1:39Speaker 1: We got an annoying voices that you're like, yeah, that's not perfect.
- 1:43Speaker 2: What were you watching, Johnna?
- 1:46Speaker 4: Were you watching a video?
- 1:47Speaker 2: Oh no, it was just a herald video. Yeah, it
- 1:52Speaker 2: was not interesting.
- 1:52Speaker 1: He so, yeah, more than fifty percent of the UK
- 1:54Speaker 1: I couldn't get this basic grammar question correct, according to
- 1:58Speaker 1: I don't know why the testing adults on gramdmar, because
- 2:00Speaker 1: grammar is very it can be confusing, right, But I
- 2:03Speaker 1: want to read it out to you and see how
- 2:04Speaker 1: you guys go on this as well. Okay, So, which
- 2:07Speaker 1: is the correct way to say the sentence grammatically? It
- 2:11Speaker 1: really has made the world of difference to William and I,
- 2:14Speaker 1: or it really has made the world of difference to
- 2:16Speaker 1: William and me.
- 2:18Speaker 2: Well, William and I, isn't it?
- 2:20Speaker 4: So I thought in this day and age it could
- 2:21Speaker 4: be both because it used to be William and I,
- 2:25Speaker 4: but I thought they changed it so it could be either.
- 2:27Speaker 4: Now it made the world of difference to William and I.
- 2:31Speaker 1: So apparently the way you find out what's correct is
- 2:33Speaker 1: you take the William out of it and then you
- 2:36Speaker 1: work out of it still kind of makes sense. So
- 2:38Speaker 1: it really has made the world of difference to I.
- 2:40Speaker 1: Doesn't make sense difference to me, apparently.
- 2:45Speaker 4: Would you say Ben and I?
- 2:47Speaker 1: Yeah, because I feel like, yeah, because when I always
- 2:49Speaker 1: got in trouble, my dad was a school teacher, so
- 2:51Speaker 1: he was very hot on stuff that no one else was.
- 2:54Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going down the country and then I go,
- 2:59Speaker 5: you know, David and me are going to go with
- 3:02Speaker 5: David and I go over, Oh, all right.
- 3:07Speaker 2: He's teaching every day pramatically.
- 3:08Speaker 4: And correctives I when it is the subject of the sentence,
- 3:12Speaker 4: and use me when it is the object of the sentence.
- 3:16Speaker 1: Yeah. Sometimes I feel like for anyone learning, you know,
- 3:20Speaker 1: firstly English to start off with, there's a kid, but
- 3:22Speaker 1: also English is a second language.
- 3:24Speaker 2: Very yeah, it is when you look at stuff. Now
- 3:27Speaker 2: you're like what that doesn't make any sense?
- 3:29Speaker 5: Yeah, and then it changes and evolves too with checking.
- 3:31Speaker 5: I wonder if other languages add new words all the
- 3:33Speaker 5: time we're adding the Oxford dextuaries, Like here's the nine
- 3:36Speaker 5: hundred new words of checked in this year. So there's
- 3:39Speaker 5: a lot of language to learn if we're checking nine
- 3:42Speaker 5: hundred to a thousand new words in a year. Lingo
- 3:46Speaker 5: and slang too. Then you go to different you know,
- 3:48Speaker 5: you come to New Zealand and we are shocking, Yes,
- 3:51Speaker 5: yearn that's computer throw people.
- 3:54Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, do you have a word that you use?
- 3:56Speaker 2: Yours is what's love? Your work, isn't it? That's a
- 3:58Speaker 2: phrasing crutch.
- 4:00Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 4:00Speaker 2: It drives my wife and saying do you have anything
- 4:02Speaker 2: that you'd use? Does it go to I used to say,
- 4:05Speaker 2: I say babes a lot? Oh yeah, so babes a lot?
- 4:08Speaker 2: Your babes?
- 4:09Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know I type definitely a lot
- 4:13Speaker 1: in my emails and I don't know that because every
- 4:14Speaker 1: time I can't spell it correctly and a red line number,
- 4:19Speaker 1: we definitely needed to spell that wrong. So I know
- 4:21Speaker 1: I use that a lot in email. Sense my kids
- 4:24Speaker 1: used basically they start every story so basically, and I
- 4:27Speaker 1: just you just got a numb I'm a dad.
- 4:29Speaker 2: I'm like, you can tell me, but don't have to.
- 4:31Speaker 1: Basically, you know, it's not basically what a complicated story
- 4:33Speaker 1: everything is.
- 4:34Speaker 2: So basically here's the thing.
- 4:36Speaker 4: When it's writing, I always say ha ha ha a
- 4:38Speaker 4: lot oh yeah, or lots of exclamation marks.
- 4:41Speaker 5: There, just to clarify that you're not being psychasic.
- 4:45Speaker 2: That's what I try to do. Is that what you're
- 4:46Speaker 2: trying to?
- 4:47Speaker 4: Yeah, hah say something you like?
- 4:50Speaker 2: You don't, you know, it's a very hard to get
- 4:56Speaker 2: you know that the way people mean things over text.
- 4:58Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why you're right, ha was this?
- 5:01Speaker 3: What was this?
- 5:02Speaker 5: Me?
- 5:03Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 5:03Speaker 5: Because the way you read something and the way you
- 5:06Speaker 5: intend it to be read.
- 5:07Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that great key and peel skitch. Yeah you
- 5:11Speaker 2: need to see that.
- 5:11Speaker 1: We'll put a link cash he on our the hats
- 5:13Speaker 1: Breakfast Instagram. Very very funny. Have they sent each other text?
- 5:16Speaker 2: And just the way they can kind of misread a conversation.
- 5:19Speaker 2: Sarcasm a hard one to get across on email. You know,
- 5:22Speaker 2: you can come across quite you know, quite blunt and raw.
- 5:25Speaker 2: Can we like I was only a joke?
- 5:26Speaker 5: So you do have to add the haha excavation marks,
- 5:28Speaker 5: and I noticed gin zers do a good job of
- 5:32Speaker 5: having a dig but then adding a nice emoji at
- 5:34Speaker 5: the end.
- 5:35Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 5:36Speaker 2: I trying to cancel it all out with fun mate.
- 5:39Speaker 4: I used to be like real sarcastic, but I've tried
- 5:42Speaker 4: to turn it down because I don't think it's always
- 5:44Speaker 4: received very well.
- 5:45Speaker 2: On email, just all the time, on general all the time.
- 5:48Speaker 2: It's a hard.
- 5:49Speaker 1: Gauge to know sometimes with humor, right, you know, and
- 5:52Speaker 1: at what point and how far can you go?
- 5:54Speaker 5: You know?
- 5:55Speaker 1: Someone said I think it was a cameraman we went with.
- 5:57Speaker 1: He was like, it's a fine line between humor and
- 5:59Speaker 1: hurting someone's feelings. Joke okay, And it really stuck with me.
- 6:08Speaker 4: And then you're like, what was the joke really make
- 6:11Speaker 4: someone feel?
- 6:12Speaker 2: That's not you want? Is there anything that people say
- 6:16Speaker 2: that annoys you?
- 6:17Speaker 5: Like?
- 6:17Speaker 2: There do you have again? Do you have a crucks
- 6:19Speaker 2: that you would get annoyed at?
- 6:20Speaker 4: I I always feel like people say I couldn't be prouder,
- 6:23Speaker 4: but I think you're supposed to say I couldn't be
- 6:25Speaker 4: more proud always. I don't know why. I think the
- 6:29Speaker 4: proper English back in the day was I couldn't be
- 6:31Speaker 4: more proud of them.
- 6:32Speaker 2: But you say I couldn't be prouder And you.
- 6:35Speaker 4: What you don't like the word prouder, Well, I don't
- 6:37Speaker 4: think it's grammatically.
- 6:40Speaker 2: I couldn't be more proud of it.
- 6:41Speaker 1: To be prouder of that, I measure sports people would
- 6:44Speaker 1: say could be sorry. I would say I couldn't be
- 6:45Speaker 1: prouder of that more proud. Sports people are not worried
- 6:50Speaker 1: too much about the grammar. When people say your boy
- 6:56Speaker 1: or your girl. When I sometimes boy your girls, it
- 7:02Speaker 1: feels quite a personal connection that.
- 7:04Speaker 2: We maybe don't have. You say it's your boy. You know,
- 7:08Speaker 2: for me, maybe some people can pull it off. I can't.
- 7:12Speaker 2: So maybe that's where it comes from.
- 7:13Speaker 5: You should do some social videos that's your boy, your.
- 7:16Speaker 2: Boys, pant my water out.
- 7:18Speaker 5: I don't think yeah, no one's suddenly seven social videos
- 7:23Speaker 5: with Hey, guys, it's your boy, it's your boy.
- 7:25Speaker 1: You you know, like if I say that, maybe it's
- 7:27Speaker 1: because I can't pull it off.
- 7:29Speaker 2: Maybe boy boy?
- 7:36Speaker 1: What makes me go with Sometimes when people say it,
- 7:38Speaker 1: I'm like, you're not but yeah.
- 7:40Speaker 4: You're not my boy?
- 7:41Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 7:43Speaker 5: Texts John Key always you say texteds he texted me, Yeah, yeah,
- 7:48Speaker 5: he never.
- 7:49Speaker 2: Quite nailed there. Texted me.
- 7:51Speaker 1: He like, just like if you think of just a
- 7:53Speaker 1: quick the New Zealand accent, and then he texted me
- 7:57Speaker 1: it was just the perfect one to take that around
- 7:59Speaker 1: the world.
- 8:02Speaker 2: Yeah he did. He really does. When you listen to
- 8:04Speaker 2: his voice quite jarr. Yeah, he speaks quickly and it's inflection.
- 8:09Speaker 4: I like you, John, sorry about this right.
- 8:12Speaker 2: It's great, but it's no, it's a great thing. It's great.
- 8:14Speaker 1: Brought the New Zealand language to the world. A guy
- 8:17Speaker 1: that used to work in New Zealand from overseas. His
- 8:19Speaker 1: theory was, we always use the vowel afterwards instead of
- 8:22Speaker 1: like eggs, we'll go eggs. You know, it's like the
- 8:24Speaker 1: next vowl along. Often we're like that. Living here for
- 8:27Speaker 1: a while. He's like, you guys, just flick to the
- 8:29Speaker 1: next one. It's like, it's not eggs, you know.
- 8:31Speaker 5: When you do when you do here in New Zealand,
- 8:33Speaker 5: next overseas, you're like, wow, it's secks out.
- 8:36Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 8:37Speaker 4: It's when you're overseas and you get on the in
- 8:39Speaker 4: New Zealand plane and they're like, welcome to.
- 8:42Speaker 2: Some home plane. Basic now and.
- 8:48Speaker 1: Again we'll get in those surveys. They'll be like, it's
- 8:50Speaker 1: the fourth sixtieth accident in the world and you're.
- 8:52Speaker 2: Like, no, it's not.
- 8:53Speaker 4: I don't remember being fourth ever.
- 8:55Speaker 2: Sometimes oh yeah maybe, but it feels like we're not.
- 8:57Speaker 2: We know it, we're not and that's fine.
- 8:59Speaker 4: Yeah, it's almost it's like our mounds don't open properly.
- 9:01Speaker 4: We're like, we just got to stuck.
- 9:02Speaker 5: And yes, you never hear of New Zealand pornography doing
- 9:09Speaker 5: well on.
- 9:10Speaker 2: The international market. That would be good, but taken away,
- 9:15Speaker 2: maybe that's something we can work on.
- 9:17Speaker 5: Oh morning, you take those clothes off?
- 9:20Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, I have a are you key for?
- 9:25Speaker 2: It would be quite funny.
- 9:27Speaker 5: What we should do is get pornography and voice over
- 9:30Speaker 5: it and see what it.
- 9:31Speaker 2: Would be like. Or are you downloaded? Then fly on
- 9:36Speaker 2: the show? Oh yeah, yeah, good the work Wi Fi.
- 9:40Speaker 4: We'll just download that.
- 9:44Speaker 2: Ye mean, do you want to tell me you should
- 9:52Speaker 2: do that? So there's one one where where we start.
- 9:56Speaker 1: We started with them grammatically incorrect sentence.
- 9:59Speaker 4: Of course we've taken it from Gramma to Paul slippery.
- 10:03Speaker 2: Slope of just it was it really was, But there
- 10:07Speaker 2: we go. That's the world Wilde Web for another week.
- 10:08Speaker 2: We'll be another week when I will be back tomorrow