Latest / Earn Your Leisure / EYL #50 No Limit feat. Max Maxwell
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- 0:30Speaker 2: All right, guys, welcome back, ey l. We got a
- 0:33Speaker 2: very special edition. Then I'm excited to I'm always excited
- 0:37Speaker 2: about our episodes, but some episodes I get a little
- 0:39Speaker 2: bit more excited.
- 0:40Speaker 3: Especially when it's like a learning episode, like we're all
- 0:42Speaker 3: gonna learn to that everybody gonna.
- 0:44Speaker 2: Learn for sure, for sure. So before we start, we
- 0:47Speaker 2: gotta let you guys know update to our grand weekend
- 0:50Speaker 2: in DC. So if you follow our on your leads,
- 0:52Speaker 2: you know that we're doing a DC takeover December seventh
- 0:55Speaker 2: and December eighth, and we're doing a workshop on December seventh.
- 0:58Speaker 2: We're doing Mobile Home Investing on mobile home elite. We're
- 1:00Speaker 2: doing stock investment Wall Street schrap. And we added real
- 1:03Speaker 2: estate to where Rashaanna Scott shout out to Rashawna Scott Town. Yeah,
- 1:06Speaker 2: and that's gonna be one. It's gonna be how to
- 1:08Speaker 2: invest in real estate on other people's money. So it's
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- 1:22Speaker 3: Be in DC all weekend too, so Saturday night will
- 1:24Speaker 3: be out and then right before the game we're gonna
- 1:26Speaker 3: do a little little networking happy album for the people
- 1:29Speaker 3: out of town.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Yeah, so check us out in DC for sure. So
- 1:32Speaker 2: all right, I'll jump right into it. We have an
- 1:35Speaker 2: esteemed guest that people have been asking us about one
- 1:37Speaker 2: thing about the ernest if you like to call our supporters,
- 1:40Speaker 2: they don't play. They don't when they want to see
- 1:42Speaker 2: somebody that like they're on it, they're like very very
- 1:45Speaker 2: aggressive about it, and they've been acting actually today they're like,
- 1:50Speaker 2: you need to get Max Max Fell on this podcast.
- 1:52Speaker 4: All right, it's crazy. I'm gonna send you a message
- 1:54Speaker 4: after this man like.
- 1:55Speaker 2: Okay, you've been highly requested.
- 1:58Speaker 4: That's dope.
- 1:58Speaker 2: That's marketing yourself.
- 2:01Speaker 4: It's crazy. Is that listened to this podcast for a
- 2:04Speaker 4: long time. That's that's humbling.
- 2:06Speaker 2: That's like, that's dope that you actually check us.
- 2:10Speaker 4: Out like day one, Yeah, the original episode.
- 2:14Speaker 2: Yeah, so so my man Max Maxwell, he has a
- 2:17Speaker 2: very interest in intriguing still. I like people with good
- 2:20Speaker 2: stories too, So if you're not familiar, wholesaling is something
- 2:26Speaker 2: that we haven't covered. When it comes to real estate.
- 2:28Speaker 2: Real estate is vast and there's a lot of different
- 2:29Speaker 2: ways to make money in real estate. You can buy
- 2:31Speaker 2: a hold, you can flip, you can rehab. There a
- 2:34Speaker 2: lot of different ways to make money. But wholesaling is
- 2:36Speaker 2: an intriguing way to make money in real estate because
- 2:40Speaker 2: you don't really have to have any money. You get
- 2:42Speaker 2: started in wholesaling and it's relatively a low barrier of entry.
- 2:47Speaker 2: It's work involved, but it's it's like a lot of
- 2:50Speaker 2: times with stop people from getting involved in real estate
- 2:53Speaker 2: because they don't have enough money, right, But wholesaling, there's
- 2:56Speaker 2: really no excuse for that because you don't need any money.
- 2:58Speaker 5: I think Max's biggest quote is it's simple, but it's
- 3:00Speaker 5: not easy. Yeah, it's it's definitely simple. And I think
- 3:02Speaker 5: every topic that you guys have covered in real estate
- 3:05Speaker 5: before wholesaling is a foundation of all of those investing methods.
- 3:10Speaker 5: Like nobody buys a rental property at the actual price.
- 3:13Speaker 5: You can't buy a flip for more than it's worth, right,
- 3:16Speaker 5: so you can't do a rehab and have more money
- 3:18Speaker 5: in it than it's actually worth.
- 3:20Speaker 4: So you gotta be involved.
- 3:21Speaker 5: Every single one of those properties that was bought was
- 3:23Speaker 5: bought from a wholesaler.
- 3:25Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'll give you a quick rundown in three years.
- 3:29Speaker 2: It's very quick rise to prominence. So that's an interesting guy.
- 3:34Speaker 2: So first, first of all, he's a veteran. Yeah, thank
- 3:39Speaker 2: you for your service. Thank you for a war veteran.
- 3:41Speaker 2: He's a war veteran with the Air Force. He also,
- 3:46Speaker 2: I just found out, is dyslexic. Yeah, which is that's
- 3:49Speaker 2: that's an interesting conversation that I hope we can have
- 3:52Speaker 2: as well. And he was dead broke at one point
- 3:56Speaker 2: not too long ago, still tasted negative four hundred and
- 4:01Speaker 2: thirty eight dollars bank account.
- 4:02Speaker 4: BAK America please give him to now he runs.
- 4:05Speaker 2: A multi million dollar operation. He has fourteen staff members, Yeah, fourteen,
- 4:10Speaker 2: just got office space. We just got eight thousand square feet,
- 4:14Speaker 2: eight thousand.
- 4:14Speaker 4: Square don't let that go over your head.
- 4:17Speaker 2: A bunch of different companies under your umbrella, do public speaking,
- 4:21Speaker 2: you do, got your YouTube popping, You got your real
- 4:24Speaker 2: estate company popping. You got a bunch of different things.
- 4:26Speaker 4: Has his own podcast, yeah.
- 4:28Speaker 2: Podcast, and he's a pilot too.
- 4:30Speaker 4: And wait, wait, wait, bigger than that, he's Jamaican.
- 4:33Speaker 5: Yeah, come here, come here, shout out chicken.
- 4:38Speaker 2: Our cook just hit number one in Jamaica. Everybody knows
- 4:42Speaker 2: choice you're making. So anytime we get a guest, that
- 4:45Speaker 2: should making, which we've had a lot of Jamaican guests.
- 4:46Speaker 4: Actually, no coincidence, no coincidence.
- 4:51Speaker 2: So first and foremost, so thank you, thank you for
- 4:54Speaker 2: joining us.
- 4:54Speaker 4: Sure, I appreciate it being here.
- 4:56Speaker 5: Like it's it's like I do a lot of podcasts,
- 5:00Speaker 5: it's part of my job.
- 5:01Speaker 4: But like coming here, I was, I flew to New
- 5:03Speaker 4: York just for this. Wow, So it's not too many podcasts.
- 5:08Speaker 4: I'm going that. I'm actually excited to be you know,
- 5:11Speaker 4: it's got cool though. This is gonna benna, It's gonna
- 5:14Speaker 4: be a good one.
- 5:14Speaker 2: All right, So can you tell us how you got
- 5:17Speaker 2: into whole selling, because, as you said off camera to us,
- 5:21Speaker 2: you said you got in because it was broke. You
- 5:23Speaker 2: need to make some money. Yeah, realistically, right, So how
- 5:26Speaker 2: did that path go from you? Because you, I know,
- 5:29Speaker 2: you went to a military at seventeen, so I was
- 5:31Speaker 2: like first out of high school.
- 5:32Speaker 5: Yeah, like a couple of days, a couple of months,
- 5:34Speaker 5: a couple of weeks after graduation, graduating, Yeah, I would
- 5:37Speaker 5: graduate like May something, and then I was gone by July.
- 5:40Speaker 2: How long were you in the military?
- 5:42Speaker 4: Four years active? Four years a guard?
- 5:44Speaker 2: Okay, so what was the path from dad and then
- 5:48Speaker 2: coming back home and then going into wholesaling.
- 5:52Speaker 5: When I got out from my active duty, I actually
- 5:55Speaker 5: got my real estate license and it was one of
- 5:59Speaker 5: the last times in the state of North Carolina where
- 6:01Speaker 5: you can get you where you can go to sell
- 6:03Speaker 5: school and broker school back to back and then get
- 6:06Speaker 5: your brokerage license, which means you actually open up your
- 6:09Speaker 5: own office. Now I didn't do that straight away. I
- 6:11Speaker 5: went to go work for Allan Tate, which is one
- 6:13Speaker 5: of the largest independent firms in North Carolina, and then
- 6:16Speaker 5: after a year I decided I didn't want to drive
- 6:17Speaker 5: people around on Sundays and like showing my house.
- 6:21Speaker 4: That then they was gonna buy.
- 6:23Speaker 5: So then I opened up my own brokerage called Infinity
- 6:25Speaker 5: Property Management Investment, and I started working with an investor.
- 6:30Speaker 5: A thirteen million dollar portfolio landed in my lap one
- 6:32Speaker 5: day dealing with the mortgage broker. His friend had dis
- 6:36Speaker 5: large and he was tired of the property managers he had.
- 6:39Speaker 4: So I got that account and it was like eighty.
- 6:42Speaker 5: Five ninety percent of my business, Like I depended on
- 6:44Speaker 5: that to eat, you know, at least what I thought
- 6:47Speaker 5: was money back then.
- 6:48Speaker 4: And then you know, two thousand and eight, heaven.
- 6:51Speaker 5: But before that, the guy started selling his properties off
- 6:55Speaker 5: and so he's seen something. I don't know what he's seen,
- 6:57Speaker 5: but lucky to him me seeing it. And then I
- 7:00Speaker 5: a lot of business, and that's when I moved to California.
- 7:03Speaker 5: My cousin which is from he's actually from Rye, from
- 7:07Speaker 5: from Mount Vernon area at some Yeah, so he was
- 7:11Speaker 5: playing soccer in La Galaxy and I ended up moving
- 7:16Speaker 5: with him in La and just lived out there for
- 7:17Speaker 5: a little while.
- 7:18Speaker 4: Then I got a job in marketing, but it's a
- 7:20Speaker 4: traveling job.
- 7:21Speaker 5: So I did that for a while for three years,
- 7:23Speaker 5: and they got another job marketing, doing experiential marketing, which
- 7:27Speaker 5: is basically like, you know, we were in charge of
- 7:30Speaker 5: activations for big brands, like when Verizon would partner with
- 7:34Speaker 5: the NFL, we would be in charge of setting up
- 7:36Speaker 5: that campaign and making sure it went well.
- 7:39Speaker 4: So big, big, multi billion dollar companies.
- 7:42Speaker 5: But I was dissatisfied, you know what I'm saying, like
- 7:44Speaker 5: you just don't have the hustle. And in between that,
- 7:46Speaker 5: I did a lot of things, like I started a
- 7:48Speaker 5: lot of stuff. My dad had a restaurant. I had
- 7:51Speaker 5: a restaurant in Maine at one point where it was
- 7:54Speaker 5: just yeah, that's where I met Dave's brother. But Dave's
- 7:59Speaker 5: like he runs all my media on my camera stuff,
- 8:01Speaker 5: and so I'm not dame for like ten years.
- 8:03Speaker 4: But you know, you know, and it wasn't I didn't
- 8:06Speaker 4: put money and it was a sweat equity.
- 8:08Speaker 5: It was it was a failing restaurant that I met
- 8:10Speaker 5: somebody and was like, yo, I can flip this, give
- 8:12Speaker 5: me an opportunity.
- 8:13Speaker 4: And we did that.
- 8:15Speaker 5: It worked, but then I didn't really get what I
- 8:17Speaker 5: was supposed to get out of it. And then you know,
- 8:21Speaker 5: did my corporate job doing marketing, and decided that I
- 8:25Speaker 5: wanted to solve a problem inside of the marketing world,
- 8:27Speaker 5: which is create an app called FASTBA FASTBA which means
- 8:31Speaker 5: fast Brand Ambassador. So with us doing all those activations
- 8:35Speaker 5: for big companies, we would hire people to do like
- 8:41Speaker 5: I don't know if you ever went to like the
- 8:42Speaker 5: State Fair and like you see Pepsi there, and all
- 8:45Speaker 5: these cute girls got Pepsi shirts on, but they don't
- 8:48Speaker 5: work for Pepsi.
- 8:49Speaker 4: We hired them off Craigslist.
- 8:51Speaker 5: And Facebook, right, so they make it like twenty dollars
- 8:53Speaker 5: an hour though, right, So it was what happened was
- 8:56Speaker 5: you have an eleven million dollar.
- 8:58Speaker 4: Contract and you're hiring twenty twenty five dollars hour staff
- 9:02Speaker 4: off Craigslist. That don't make sense.
- 9:04Speaker 5: So I decided to come up with an app that
- 9:06Speaker 5: allowed them to for all the brand ambassadors to sign
- 9:09Speaker 5: up and whenever a job was available in your area,
- 9:11Speaker 5: you can apply right there.
- 9:12Speaker 4: And you have ratings and blah blah blah all that stuff. Right.
- 9:16Speaker 5: Anyways, I didn't get the right investors. We ran out
- 9:18Speaker 5: of money. Here, I am flat broke.
- 9:21Speaker 2: How old were you?
- 9:22Speaker 4: I was just thirty, Okay, okay, flat broke.
- 9:26Speaker 5: But you know at thirty, you know, with that transition
- 9:28Speaker 5: from the twenties to the thirties is a big deal.
- 9:31Speaker 4: Like a man at this point, it's like life is
- 9:33Speaker 4: posing in on me.
- 9:34Speaker 2: Yeah. Ig once said being broken thirty when you broke
- 9:39Speaker 2: it thirty as serious, you broke it twenty five. Man,
- 9:42Speaker 2: you got time thirty serious.
- 9:44Speaker 4: It's like it's what Pod said too.
- 9:45Speaker 3: It's like a man's greatest time to create is between
- 9:48Speaker 3: twenty five and thirty.
- 9:49Speaker 4: You guys haven't created about thirty. It's gonna be tough,
- 9:51Speaker 4: But I defeated all that. That's a lie. It's a
- 9:54Speaker 4: lot living proof here.
- 9:55Speaker 5: Yeah, because at thirty now these days you really just
- 9:59Speaker 5: know what's going on.
- 10:00Speaker 4: Just forget it out. All your failures now equals up
- 10:03Speaker 4: to what should be like who you are. So at
- 10:06Speaker 4: that point, I have to move back home, right, I
- 10:08Speaker 4: got a Jamaican mother coming back home, really back home? Yeah, yeah,
- 10:12Speaker 4: back like I had.
- 10:13Speaker 5: I had to move back with my mother, and I'll
- 10:16Speaker 5: be honest, it wasn't that hard because your mom always
- 10:19Speaker 5: want you around, of course, right.
- 10:21Speaker 6: That's the same thing shout Alice yo, Cololude dumpling, and
- 10:26Speaker 6: so fish, getting that everybody put on thirty pounds that
- 10:29Speaker 6: every Sunday dumplings is fried boiler.
- 10:32Speaker 4: So I like fried. Can I take one or two
- 10:35Speaker 4: on the side, Okay, okay, get your green bananas too,
- 10:38Speaker 4: always sweetland. But y'all.
- 10:41Speaker 5: But you know, for me, moving back home was kind
- 10:44Speaker 5: of depressing. You know, you I've been home. I've been
- 10:47Speaker 5: out since I was seventeen, so you're talking about twelve
- 10:49Speaker 5: thirteen years I've I've been independent. So having to move
- 10:54Speaker 5: back home not really conducive to having a girlfriend because
- 10:57Speaker 5: you live home with your mom.
- 10:58Speaker 4: Nobody's coming back.
- 11:00Speaker 6: You're not.
- 11:00Speaker 4: You're not. Why go to the club, nobody's I'm not
- 11:04Speaker 4: going out. I'm not going nowhere. You can't come back
- 11:08Speaker 4: with me.
- 11:09Speaker 5: And the top that off, I had a two thousand
- 11:11Speaker 5: and four Volkswagon Jedda that had a bad starter, you know,
- 11:14Speaker 5: so you got to hit the starter with the hammer
- 11:16Speaker 5: and all that stuff like that. So it was just
- 11:17Speaker 5: like a bad time in my life. Man, you know,
- 11:20Speaker 5: it's funny thing, right, Yeah, So it's a bad time
- 11:24Speaker 5: in my life. And then you know, a friend of mine,
- 11:28Speaker 5: somebody knew from younger days. His dad, you know, was
- 11:31Speaker 5: always rich and we kind of knew that we didn't
- 11:34Speaker 5: know why your dad's rich. I think so, so we're
- 11:37Speaker 5: going to talk to his dad and his dad was like, yeah, yeah,
- 11:40Speaker 5: he was like, you know, for some reason. We went
- 11:43Speaker 5: to his house and he had a whole PowerPoint presentation ready.
- 11:46Speaker 5: I don't know if he knew we were coming, but
- 11:48Speaker 5: come to find out, he just loved to teach. So
- 11:50Speaker 5: he hit us with game. Then he said the word
- 11:53Speaker 5: wholesaling and me with my short attentions fan and you know,
- 11:57Speaker 5: being dyslexic, and I really, you know, just not being
- 12:00Speaker 5: really a good student. I once he said wholesale, I
- 12:04Speaker 5: just locked in. I typed it in my notes and
- 12:06Speaker 5: I ain't hear nothing else he said for the rest
- 12:08Speaker 5: of the time. That's probably an hour, and I went home.
- 12:11Speaker 5: I went back home and I locked myself in my
- 12:13Speaker 5: room for three weeks, and I googled wholesale and real estate,
- 12:17Speaker 5: and I mean it was just like Pandora's box is open,
- 12:21Speaker 5: and you just started seeing people and seeing how easy
- 12:23Speaker 5: it was and talking about driving for dollars and contracts.
- 12:26Speaker 5: And I had some real estate knowledge, so I wasn't
- 12:28Speaker 5: completely brand new to the real estate, like this is
- 12:31Speaker 5: easy so.
- 12:32Speaker 3: Even you at this point the wholesaling was a new concept.
- 12:37Speaker 5: Or was something a brand new concept, Like I've heard
- 12:40Speaker 5: it before as a relator, but you think it's fake.
- 12:43Speaker 5: I think it's like a scam exactly because it don't
- 12:46Speaker 5: sound like scamish. But I end up locking myself in
- 12:51Speaker 5: my room for three weeks listening to podcasts like the Goats,
- 12:54Speaker 5: like you know, Sean Terry and all these guys.
- 12:56Speaker 4: And and.
- 12:59Speaker 5: Three weeks late, I went driving in my old neighborhood
- 13:01Speaker 5: that I moved from Portchester to Salem Woods in North Carolina,
- 13:06Speaker 5: and on the same street I grew up on was
- 13:08Speaker 5: a house on a corner that was had tall bushes,
- 13:11Speaker 5: tall grass. And from there I contacted the owner and
- 13:17Speaker 5: like a week or two later, I made fourteen thousand
- 13:19Speaker 5: port Chester, New York. Well, I moved from Portchester into
- 13:23Speaker 5: North Carolina.
- 13:24Speaker 4: Okay, house, Oka, gotcha?
- 13:25Speaker 5: And that fourteen thousand was like, it was like, you
- 13:30Speaker 5: couldn't tell me it wasn't a million dollars right right,
- 13:33Speaker 5: because I mean from having negative money in your like,
- 13:35Speaker 5: And when I went to drive, let me tell you,
- 13:37Speaker 5: I remember this. On Peacehaven Road and Country Club Road,
- 13:40Speaker 5: there's a shell gas station. I put my card in
- 13:46Speaker 5: hoping they would accept it. And you know how I
- 13:48Speaker 5: draw off one dollar, Well, you know, I filled that
- 13:52Speaker 5: tank up with that one dollar then because it just
- 13:54Speaker 5: keeps going, and you know, you got to pay the
- 13:56Speaker 5: overcharge fee.
- 13:58Speaker 4: And I was like, that's it.
- 14:00Speaker 5: At that point, that was really all the money I have,
- 14:03Speaker 5: and I knew the bank wasn't gonna let me use
- 14:05Speaker 5: that card anymore. And I found that house and just
- 14:09Speaker 5: going and going and going, and then I got the
- 14:12Speaker 5: deal closed. And it's simply what like wholesaling is is
- 14:15Speaker 5: you find distressed properties and you put them under contract
- 14:20Speaker 5: with a purchase an agreement, and you agree to purchase
- 14:23Speaker 5: it at a certain price. Well, now you have this
- 14:25Speaker 5: thing called equitable interest. We're a common law country, right,
- 14:29Speaker 5: so now you have an equitable interest in this real estate.
- 14:31Speaker 5: So nothing can happen to that or that property can't
- 14:33Speaker 5: be sold into your contract expires. So what you can
- 14:37Speaker 5: do is you can actually close on that property if
- 14:39Speaker 5: you got the money because you negotiated down to a
- 14:41Speaker 5: good rate. So for example, the house that I did
- 14:45Speaker 5: was it was worth one hundred and twenty five thousand,
- 14:47Speaker 5: and I got it on a contract for thirty two thousand. Wow,
- 14:51Speaker 5: but it needed it needed work though, don't give me
- 14:53Speaker 5: it a twisted like people left it was. It needed
- 14:56Speaker 5: a full rehab. But there was enough room for somebody
- 14:59Speaker 5: to do the rehab and still make money. It just
- 15:01Speaker 5: wasn't me because I had negative four hundred and some dollars,
- 15:03Speaker 5: so I didn't have it. So when I learned that
- 15:06Speaker 5: you can assign your rights to that contract that you
- 15:10Speaker 5: negotiated for a fee, that's what the game was.
- 15:14Speaker 4: So you're going to You're going to find somebody that
- 15:16Speaker 4: can buy it.
- 15:16Speaker 5: Yeah, So I put it on Facebook marketplace. I didn't
- 15:19Speaker 5: know nobody, I ain't.
- 15:21Speaker 4: Don't talk no rich people then and use your research.
- 15:23Speaker 4: So that weekend, that same weekend I got it.
- 15:28Speaker 5: Somebody agreed to buy it for fourteen thousand dollars more
- 15:30Speaker 5: than I had it on a contract for.
- 15:32Speaker 2: So all right, So in the next time, we're going
- 15:33Speaker 2: to break down wholesaling. But before you even go into
- 15:36Speaker 2: the details of wholesaling, just to kind of get people
- 15:38Speaker 2: like me who are slow learners a quick overview of wholesaling.
- 15:43Speaker 2: So wholesaling correct me if I'm wrong. Is I go
- 15:47Speaker 2: down the street and I see a property, right now
- 15:50Speaker 2: I can draw up a contract and be the owner
- 15:55Speaker 2: of that property without actually owning that property.
- 15:58Speaker 5: So you won't you won't actually own it, but you
- 16:00Speaker 5: will have what they call equitable interest. So you agree
- 16:04Speaker 5: with that homeowner to buy the property. Let's just say
- 16:07Speaker 5: a house down the street for thirty thousand, Right, you
- 16:10Speaker 5: agree it's worth one fifty, but it needs a lot
- 16:12Speaker 5: of work. And the person is like, yo, I inherited
- 16:14Speaker 5: this home and it used to be a rental property.
- 16:17Speaker 5: But you know whatever, you put it on the contract
- 16:20Speaker 5: for a certain deep discounted price. And with that contract
- 16:24Speaker 5: you now have that says expires let's just say end
- 16:26Speaker 5: of November.
- 16:27Speaker 4: You now have equitable.
- 16:29Speaker 5: Interest in that property until that time expires, and then
- 16:32Speaker 5: you sell that to somebody else.
- 16:34Speaker 3: Yeah, so you in that timeframe you got let's say
- 16:36Speaker 3: it's the end of November, you're giving yourself at least
- 16:39Speaker 3: fourteen days to find somebody.
- 16:40Speaker 4: Yeah, gotcha.
- 16:41Speaker 2: So all right, thirty thousand. Now you try to solve fifty.
- 16:44Speaker 5: Thousand whatever extra you can get for and what the
- 16:47Speaker 5: difference is, what you make? Yeah, on the of the differences,
- 16:49Speaker 5: what you say, So if it was fifty, then you
- 16:51Speaker 5: made twenty thousand on that deal.
- 16:52Speaker 2: Correct, and if you can't sell it, it just expires.
- 16:55Speaker 4: It expires.
- 16:56Speaker 5: There's a little bit more we can get into more
- 16:57Speaker 5: detail of what you can do if you can't sell it.
- 16:59Speaker 4: But yeah, but.
- 17:01Speaker 2: You're not technically on the hook for like paying thirty
- 17:03Speaker 2: thousand dollars.
- 17:04Speaker 4: No, not if you do it the correct way.
- 17:05Speaker 5: Now, there's an ethical way to do anything, and there's
- 17:07Speaker 5: an unwethical way to do anything, right, So I'm gonna
- 17:09Speaker 5: tell you how to do the ethical way of how
- 17:11Speaker 5: to how to get it on a contract the correct way.
- 17:13Speaker 2: All right, all right, So in the next second, we're
- 17:15Speaker 2: gonna go into everything you need to know about wholesaling
- 17:18Speaker 2: real estate.
- 17:18Speaker 4: It's gonna get all right.
- 17:20Speaker 2: So now we're gonna go into some all right wholesaling
- 17:23Speaker 2: one on one. Right. So it's a couple of things
- 17:26Speaker 2: that I had looked at in preparing for this interview.
- 17:30Speaker 2: So when identifying your market, right, So I so you
- 17:34Speaker 2: even talked about it as far as like your.
- 17:36Speaker 4: Zip code, Yeah, that granulin all right.
- 17:39Speaker 2: So I guess for somebody that wants to get involved
- 17:42Speaker 2: in wholesaling and they're just getting started, like how you
- 17:45Speaker 2: just got started, you have to formulate a game plan
- 17:46Speaker 2: before you do anything in life. Right, So I guess
- 17:49Speaker 2: the first game plan is understanding your neighborhood. Is that correct?
- 17:51Speaker 5: Yeah, So understanding like your area, your city, and like
- 17:55Speaker 5: every city has what they call gentrification, right, Like what
- 17:59Speaker 5: happens is you have neighborhoods that are going to transition
- 18:03Speaker 5: into mid class likeness. That's what gentrification is. So that's
- 18:08Speaker 5: gonna happen all the time. Whether you're a part of
- 18:12Speaker 5: it or not is up to you. So essentially what
- 18:14Speaker 5: happens is you need to know what part of your
- 18:16Speaker 5: city is up and coming.
- 18:18Speaker 4: That's all it means.
- 18:20Speaker 5: And once you find out that part, whether you can
- 18:22Speaker 5: do visually like driving around because you know your city
- 18:24Speaker 5: you've been there since you were a kid, or you
- 18:26Speaker 5: can use technology which we use list source and do
- 18:30Speaker 5: a free method of finding this.
- 18:33Speaker 4: You then find what zip.
- 18:34Speaker 5: Codes are hot, and how they do it is they say,
- 18:36Speaker 5: all right, how many cash transactions has happened in this
- 18:39Speaker 5: county and then we break it down by zip code
- 18:42Speaker 5: and then the ones that have the most cash transactions
- 18:45Speaker 5: that mean somebody's buying these properties follow the money.
- 18:47Speaker 2: Cash transactions, like somebody's buying a home and cash cash Yeah.
- 18:50Speaker 2: And so by doing that, you know, if more people
- 18:53Speaker 2: are buying homes in cash, more affluent people are moving
- 18:56Speaker 2: into neighborhood.
- 18:56Speaker 5: Yeah, because what happens is when somebody buys a house
- 18:59Speaker 5: in cash more or like, there's no financing involved, that
- 19:01Speaker 5: means it needs to flip.
- 19:03Speaker 4: Right. So because you can't really buy flip property with.
- 19:05Speaker 5: Bank financing, they won't they won't, they won't, and they
- 19:08Speaker 5: won't loan you money on something that needs work. The
- 19:12Speaker 5: bank is never going to take an upside down position
- 19:14Speaker 5: on anything.
- 19:15Speaker 4: So what's what's the app called lip sort list list
- 19:17Speaker 4: source list source Yeah, and I have a video like
- 19:20Speaker 4: it goes more in detail but list sources of things
- 19:22Speaker 4: that gives you list of anything kind of you want
- 19:24Speaker 4: about people. Right, but you can find out the hot
- 19:27Speaker 4: properties or the hot zip codes on this way we
- 19:30Speaker 4: find out how to do once you've mastered your area.
- 19:32Speaker 3: One of the things that you talk about is driving
- 19:34Speaker 3: for dollars? Can you talk about that technique and the
- 19:37Speaker 3: interest of that.
- 19:38Speaker 5: That's how I got my first deal was driving for dollars.
- 19:40Speaker 5: And that just basically means you're driving around looking for
- 19:46Speaker 5: distress property physically distressed, right, and these.
- 19:49Speaker 4: Are Yeah, it could be like your gutters are hanging down.
- 19:52Speaker 5: Nope, somebody hasn't cut the grass. The bushes are high,
- 19:57Speaker 5: old junkie cars in the driver that haven't moved. Now
- 20:00Speaker 5: what happens is we see these every day, but your
- 20:02Speaker 5: mind has already been trained to block these out. I know,
- 20:06Speaker 5: if you untrained yourself and looked, actually looked, you'll see
- 20:10Speaker 5: houses as Yo, the house been there for ten years.
- 20:12Speaker 4: Ain't nobody ever looked at it? Because I really trained
- 20:14Speaker 4: to see, like, yo, that's the nicest house on the block, correct,
- 20:17Speaker 4: and you go past the ugliness. It's just the way
- 20:19Speaker 4: way we look.
- 20:19Speaker 2: At I mean, even as a kid, I remember being
- 20:21Speaker 2: on a school bus and you can always tell, like
- 20:24Speaker 2: the house is the worst house on the neighborhood. They
- 20:26Speaker 2: never cut the grass, they never the paint's always chip.
- 20:30Speaker 2: But growing up, you just thinking that people don't care
- 20:33Speaker 2: about their home, thinking that maybe nobody lives there. Correct,
- 20:37Speaker 2: maybe it's distressed property.
- 20:39Speaker 4: Correct.
- 20:39Speaker 5: So once you find that distress property, you need to
- 20:41Speaker 5: find the owner. And so my buddy Dave Lecho created
- 20:46Speaker 5: a map called deal Machine, which allows you to drive around,
- 20:49Speaker 5: take a picture of the property, and it pinpoints it
- 20:53Speaker 5: and it actually will send a postcard to the owner.
- 20:56Speaker 4: Asking if they want to sell it on your behalf
- 20:58Speaker 4: on your behalf for you, yeah, with your with your.
- 21:02Speaker 5: Number on it, so you can customize this postcard. So,
- 21:07Speaker 5: but that that's like fairly new technology. When I started,
- 21:10Speaker 5: they didn't have that. We had to go around taking
- 21:12Speaker 5: screenshots of drop pin drops on like Apple Maps or
- 21:15Speaker 5: something like that, and then go back home and search
- 21:18Speaker 5: who owns it.
- 21:19Speaker 3: So we got we got the property and were driving
- 21:22Speaker 3: dollars and then you had something called skip tracing.
- 21:24Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's important. So skip tracing essentially where that
- 21:27Speaker 5: word skip tracing came from. So I used to be
- 21:28Speaker 5: a bounty bounty hunter, bail bondsman. Yeah, that's like them
- 21:35Speaker 5: better than TV show. So skip tracing means that you're
- 21:42Speaker 5: skipping a trade, You're you're tracing a skip. Essentially, what
- 21:46Speaker 5: that means is somebody who does not go to court
- 21:49Speaker 5: is considered a skip and you need to trace them down.
- 21:51Speaker 5: So that's where a word comes from. But now we're
- 21:53Speaker 5: not really dealing with that. We deal with people that that.
- 21:56Speaker 4: Own houses that we can't find them.
- 21:57Speaker 5: So essentially what happens is you find out how with
- 22:00Speaker 5: the tall grass, you take a picture of it, you
- 22:02Speaker 5: write down the address. You need to know who owns it,
- 22:05Speaker 5: So you go on the county wreckers. Every single property
- 22:08Speaker 5: in America is owned by somebody or something, right, So
- 22:14Speaker 5: in every county there's a tax assessor's website, right, so
- 22:18Speaker 5: I can look up to who owns any house in America.
- 22:22Speaker 5: So you go to that county's website. So here, I
- 22:24Speaker 5: think it'd be Westchester County tax assessors, right, And then
- 22:27Speaker 5: you would put in the address of the property and
- 22:29Speaker 5: it'll say, oh, this person owns that property. Now I
- 22:32Speaker 5: need to get a hold of that person. So skip
- 22:35Speaker 5: tracing is where you put that person's name and mailing
- 22:37Speaker 5: address into the system and it's gonna spit out the
- 22:40Speaker 5: numbers that that are that this person has. Yeah, yeah, wow,
- 22:46Speaker 5: what's it called? Skip skip trac dot com ri E?
- 22:49Speaker 5: I skip dot com r E. I skipped that. Yeah,
- 22:53Speaker 5: So that was part of that was that was part
- 22:55Speaker 5: of how I got big big because I knew because
- 23:00Speaker 5: of my old background of skip tracing humans. It's the
- 23:03Speaker 5: same thing I got to skip trades humans, but now
- 23:05Speaker 5: I have.
- 23:05Speaker 4: Their name and address.
- 23:06Speaker 2: Did you get this from military training?
- 23:08Speaker 4: Like No, it was just something that we developed as
- 23:10Speaker 4: bounty hunters.
- 23:11Speaker 3: So you flipped it because before you were looking for
- 23:13Speaker 3: people that you actually had to arrest. Yeah, it's flipped
- 23:16Speaker 3: it into it. Now I'm looking for the person that
- 23:18Speaker 3: owns this house. I need your number. I'm calling you up.
- 23:20Speaker 3: That's it went off topic a little bit. When were
- 23:23Speaker 3: you a boundy hunt?
- 23:25Speaker 5: Yeah, you got mad, I got ten, I got ten.
- 23:31Speaker 4: I used to have a car lot. I used to
- 23:32Speaker 4: have all types of stuff.
- 23:33Speaker 5: Man, I was a bounty hunter in between while building
- 23:36Speaker 5: that app and getting in the in the real estate.
- 23:38Speaker 2: Wow.
- 23:39Speaker 5: Yeah, And it actually traveled into like I'm still licensed. Yeah,
- 23:43Speaker 5: I'm still licensed a bound here because the job. Yeah, already,
- 23:49Speaker 5: because I had to have I'm still a licensed bounty
- 23:54Speaker 5: hunter and I'm still licensed bonds because I got access
- 23:57Speaker 5: to data most people don't get.
- 23:58Speaker 4: I get the same data. And you've leveraged it. Yeah.
- 24:01Speaker 4: I leveraged that small you know, license into me.
- 24:05Speaker 2: Now you know what the thing I like because I
- 24:06Speaker 2: got a lot of our guests have similar stories where
- 24:09Speaker 2: they've had troubling times and he had to like figure
- 24:12Speaker 2: things out and then a lot of our guests have
- 24:13Speaker 2: seen similar stories where they they use things in their
- 24:16Speaker 2: past to help them. Like you ever heard John Henry, Yeah,
- 24:19Speaker 2: of course, John Henry shot out to John. He was
- 24:21Speaker 2: telling you know his story. He was a dormant dot
- 24:24Speaker 2: at the hotel and he came up and he started
- 24:27Speaker 2: a million dollar cleaning business. But his marketing plan was
- 24:30Speaker 2: to go to other dormant and get them to refer
- 24:33Speaker 2: their residence. He paid them. But long story short, he
- 24:35Speaker 2: was saying, like he can't call himself a genius for
- 24:37Speaker 2: that because that's what he knew. He knew the dormant
- 24:40Speaker 2: industry because he was a dormant, like you were a
- 24:42Speaker 2: bounty hunter. But it's like you knew, like I can
- 24:44Speaker 2: get people's information from this. Now I'm in real estate.
- 24:48Speaker 2: How can I co mingle this and actually make it
- 24:50Speaker 2: all work?
- 24:50Speaker 5: And that's why your failures are your biggest successes because
- 24:53Speaker 5: that failure taught made me make millions. You know, you
- 24:57Speaker 5: just put me on and put me in a different category.
- 24:59Speaker 2: And that's that's point for people to understand too, because
- 25:01Speaker 2: a lot of times everybody's doing something and even like
- 25:04Speaker 2: your path to success might be totally different from what
- 25:07Speaker 2: you're currently doing, but you can still use what you
- 25:10Speaker 2: did in the past in some capacity to help your success.
- 25:14Speaker 4: In the future. Absolutely. Yeah.
- 25:16Speaker 3: So now we go at that, we got the address,
- 25:18Speaker 3: how do we get the property under contract?
- 25:21Speaker 5: So you're gonna call a person and you're simply gonna
- 25:23Speaker 5: have a conversation. A lot of people this were a
- 25:24Speaker 5: lot of people fall short. People hate talking to people that.
- 25:27Speaker 4: They don't know.
- 25:28Speaker 2: Elevateor script.
- 25:29Speaker 5: Yeah you So we've developed a lot of scripts over
- 25:31Speaker 5: the time. But it's real simple. Immediately, you need to
- 25:34Speaker 5: identify who you are. Hey, my name is Max. I'm
- 25:37Speaker 5: a local real estate investor. Right that puts their guards down.
- 25:40Speaker 5: But if somebody calls you and says, hey, a moment
- 25:43Speaker 5: of your time, Yeah done, I'm hanging out, you ain't
- 25:46Speaker 5: eve getting past that. Especially in New York. You're not
- 25:47Speaker 5: getting past that at all. You might even get pick
- 25:50Speaker 5: up banging on you.
- 25:51Speaker 4: Yeah. So then somebody's intrigued. Okay, your real estate investor.
- 25:55Speaker 5: I was going to pass the property down on one
- 25:57Speaker 5: two three Main Street, and I think you may own it.
- 25:59Speaker 5: I was wondering if you interested in even selling at all.
- 26:02Speaker 4: That's simple.
- 26:02Speaker 5: You're gonna get yes, no, or maybe, or you're going
- 26:05Speaker 5: a lot of f us in between there, right, so
- 26:08Speaker 5: or you got the wrong number, right do you?
- 26:10Speaker 4: Well? Do you know who owns that property? Oh?
- 26:12Speaker 5: Yeah, I owned that property? Okay, well great, are you
- 26:14Speaker 5: thinking about selling it? Well, I got it from my
- 26:16Speaker 5: mom and I actually live in the city now, and
- 26:19Speaker 5: you know, I don't. It's need some work and I
- 26:22Speaker 5: really don't have you know, the time, and I don't
- 26:24Speaker 5: want to keep paying the taxes. Okay, Well, I'm a
- 26:27Speaker 5: real estate investor actually specialize in buying properties like this.
- 26:31Speaker 5: Would you be interested in the cash offer? Actually I
- 26:33Speaker 5: would be, And then that's when you start that negotiation.
- 26:37Speaker 5: Well great, well what type of what number were you
- 26:39Speaker 5: looking for? You know, what can I give you cash
- 26:41Speaker 5: that would just make you walk away from it?
- 26:43Speaker 4: Then that starts.
- 26:44Speaker 5: That's called anchoring, giving somebody, that making somebody give you
- 26:47Speaker 5: a price to anchor themselves on.
- 26:49Speaker 3: And that doesn't happen just in you know a lot
- 26:51Speaker 3: of people think that can't happen in the fluent neighborhoods.
- 26:53Speaker 5: But you said all the absolutely yeah looking yeah, I
- 26:56Speaker 5: mean for us in the South, like a two hundred
- 26:59Speaker 5: and fifty house is a nice neighborhood, right, So I
- 27:03Speaker 5: want a couple of those right off of people that
- 27:06Speaker 5: you know, just it happens a lot.
- 27:08Speaker 4: People inherit things that they don't want. I mean not
- 27:11Speaker 4: in our.
- 27:11Speaker 5: Culture, but there's a lot where people like really will
- 27:14Speaker 5: inherit a quarter million dollar house was mak Ers and
- 27:17Speaker 5: be like, oh, I live in Denver, I don't want
- 27:18Speaker 5: to go back to mom's house.
- 27:19Speaker 4: I remember having Christmas there in ninety three. I don't
- 27:21Speaker 4: want to try to. I'm not trying to go back.
- 27:23Speaker 5: So things like that, and then just there's so many
- 27:26Speaker 5: different ways where people don't want a house.
- 27:29Speaker 4: It's like a car.
- 27:30Speaker 2: But it's pretty common, like you said, not in our community, unfortunately, Yeah,
- 27:35Speaker 2: never happens. It's pretty common in other communities.
- 27:42Speaker 5: Sure you'll be surprised, but you know, actually it happens
- 27:45Speaker 5: more than we actually think in our community. We just
- 27:46Speaker 5: don't realize, you know, like because it's considered the hood.
- 27:50Speaker 5: So you don't want Grandma's house, right, and you just
- 27:53Speaker 5: let it go for taxing Linquin, and then somebody like
- 27:55Speaker 5: me comes and buys it for ten thousand dollars.
- 27:58Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 27:59Speaker 2: So as a wholesale the person you're always offering cash offers.
- 28:04Speaker 4: It's always had to be cash on Yeah, because no
- 28:06Speaker 4: bank is going to find it.
- 28:07Speaker 5: Yeah, so you got to go find somebody else that's
- 28:09Speaker 5: in the business of flipping property.
- 28:13Speaker 3: So we're telling private or hard money loans typically, yeah,
- 28:17Speaker 3: they can have access to private or hard mini loans.
- 28:20Speaker 4: Private is through relationships.
- 28:21Speaker 5: Hard money is going to be through your resume essentially, right,
- 28:25Speaker 5: you know you flip seven houses this year, of course,
- 28:28Speaker 5: will loan your money because you know what you're doing.
- 28:29Speaker 5: Private money is based off of Yo. I know you
- 28:31Speaker 5: you got some money sitting in your IRA and you
- 28:32Speaker 5: want to put it to work. But yeah, you want
- 28:36Speaker 5: to find that person that makes his money through flipping.
- 28:39Speaker 5: You know, one thing I understand is that people have money,
- 28:41Speaker 5: they got to spend it, right, So it depends just
- 28:44Speaker 5: where you at on that.
- 28:45Speaker 2: Food chain, and people that have money always want to
- 28:48Speaker 2: make more money.
- 28:49Speaker 5: That's how they live the eye quadron of day life.
- 28:52Speaker 4: So we got now, we got the contract. Now we
- 28:54Speaker 4: got to get to.
- 28:55Speaker 2: The closing before so I had a question. Sorry, So
- 29:00Speaker 2: this essentially is cold calling when you're people are because
- 29:06Speaker 2: very few people understand cold calling. I've done cold calling
- 29:09Speaker 2: before and I don't I don't like it, so but
- 29:15Speaker 2: I can see I just can stop people from actually
- 29:17Speaker 2: moving forward. Right, this is a big thing. It's not
- 29:20Speaker 2: if you don't if you've ever done it before, you
- 29:21Speaker 2: can't fully appreciate. It's like one of the most nerve
- 29:25Speaker 2: wracking things you can do. Like literally, like you make
- 29:27Speaker 2: up every excuse in the world not to Coco. Like
- 29:29Speaker 2: you like walk around the neighborhood, you get lunch and
- 29:32Speaker 2: you say it's too early, it's too late to call tomorrow.
- 29:36Speaker 2: You make all kinds of excuses. So how do you
- 29:41Speaker 2: because you have to either that or you're knocking on
- 29:43Speaker 2: somebody's door.
- 29:44Speaker 5: Every colm, every deal ends on the phone. Every single deal.
- 29:48Speaker 4: You do, whether you like it or not, is going
- 29:49Speaker 4: to end up on the phone at some point in time.
- 29:52Speaker 2: So, like, what do you tell people to like ease
- 29:54Speaker 2: their nerves to coke call?
- 29:56Speaker 4: One thing we do is we give them scripts. They
- 29:58Speaker 4: have to make it up.
- 29:59Speaker 5: Yeah, So I want to give you your scripts and then
- 30:01Speaker 5: you're gonna give you most common rebuttals so that you
- 30:04Speaker 5: can have an answer.
- 30:05Speaker 4: Right. So, Like I like if you go to your
- 30:07Speaker 4: if you're.
- 30:07Speaker 5: Gonna ask your mom and you always know what you're
- 30:09Speaker 5: gonna say, it's more easy for you to ask a
- 30:11Speaker 5: question because you already got the answer because you.
- 30:13Speaker 4: Know her response.
- 30:14Speaker 5: So it's the same thing like when you go talk
- 30:16Speaker 5: to these strangers, these people you don't know, you're gonna,
- 30:18Speaker 5: You're gonna they got three answers, three or four different
- 30:21Speaker 5: answers they're gonna give you, and you need to be
- 30:23Speaker 5: able to rebundle those things.
- 30:24Speaker 2: You know what got me over my fear of cocone too. Personally,
- 30:27Speaker 2: I still don't throw a lot of cocone, but just
- 30:29Speaker 2: got me out of my cause I had I was
- 30:30Speaker 2: terrified by it. I had this. I had to sit
- 30:33Speaker 2: down and say, am I going to die? If you're
- 30:39Speaker 2: not gonna die, it's not that bad.
- 30:42Speaker 4: Did you make money from cocyl never?
- 30:44Speaker 2: I have? Yeah, I have. And at the end of
- 30:46Speaker 2: the day, the worst nobody they don't know you, and
- 30:48Speaker 2: the worst they can say is no.
- 30:50Speaker 4: Or cuts you out. Who cares. We're gonna move on
- 30:52Speaker 4: to the next question. Yes, just they don't know you
- 30:55Speaker 4: Just keep going, keep moving. You get cussed out on
- 30:57Speaker 4: the subway, here, all the time.
- 30:58Speaker 2: Anywhere, So that should be normal.
- 31:00Speaker 4: Take a personal It's.
- 31:01Speaker 2: Not gonna kill you. It's not that serious. That's how
- 31:02Speaker 2: look at it. So what is the maximum allowable offer.
- 31:06Speaker 5: So the the MOA is the maximum amount of money
- 31:10Speaker 5: that you can offer on this property and still make
- 31:12Speaker 5: a profit. So I'll break it down, so like, if
- 31:14Speaker 5: a house is worth one hundred thousand dollars fixed up, right,
- 31:18Speaker 5: we did we found that out by doing comparable properties.
- 31:22Speaker 5: We've seen that the house down the streets sold for
- 31:23Speaker 5: one hundred thousand, very similar square footage, bedrooms and baths.
- 31:28Speaker 5: The house up there sold for ninety eight. So now
- 31:30Speaker 5: we're in a one hundred thousand dollars range. So we
- 31:32Speaker 5: know that the flipper is going to fix this and
- 31:34Speaker 5: sell it for a hundred thousand, So it's just sell
- 31:36Speaker 5: one hundred thousand dollars. Now in my market, it's it's lukewarm.
- 31:41Speaker 5: It's not like an LA or a Phoenix or New
- 31:45Speaker 5: York where you know properties go above and beyond asking
- 31:50Speaker 5: price a bunch, right, So we take off we minus
- 31:53Speaker 5: thirty percent from the actual ARV the after repair valuable property.
- 31:59Speaker 4: Right.
- 31:59Speaker 5: So now you did that one hundred thousand minus thirty percent,
- 32:02Speaker 5: you're at seventy thousand. And let's just say you walked
- 32:05Speaker 5: that house and you went in there and you think
- 32:07Speaker 5: it needs twenty thousand dollars twenty five thousand dollars and
- 32:12Speaker 5: just say twenty thousand, twenty thousand repairs. So you know
- 32:16Speaker 5: that this flipper is gonna spend twenty thousand to get
- 32:19Speaker 5: it to the point where he can actually put it
- 32:21Speaker 5: on the mark for one hundred, so you're gonna deduct that.
- 32:24Speaker 5: So we went from one hundred to seventy disrepairs. Now
- 32:27Speaker 5: we at fifty. So if you actually buy this property
- 32:31Speaker 5: at fifty thousand dollars right now, it's actually a good
- 32:34Speaker 5: deal for the flipper. Well, you ain't made no money
- 32:37Speaker 5: yet right.
- 32:38Speaker 2: As the wholesalers, you didn't get it right.
- 32:40Speaker 5: So if the flipper himself knocked on this door talk
- 32:43Speaker 5: to him, he'd be able to.
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- 35:34Speaker 5: Five fifty, but you need to make some money, so
- 35:38Speaker 5: you need to throw a pad or a buffer in there.
- 35:41Speaker 4: So you need to be offering.
- 35:42Speaker 5: If you want to make ten thousand, your offer needs
- 35:44Speaker 5: your maximum allowable offer needs to be forty thousand. Right,
- 35:49Speaker 5: So now you're going to sell your contract for fifty
- 35:53Speaker 5: forty for the forty that they got a bout a
- 35:55Speaker 5: house ten for your assignment total of fifty.
- 35:58Speaker 4: Right now we're back.
- 35:59Speaker 5: Where the flicker is gonna make some money. But you
- 36:02Speaker 5: if you want it at forty, you're never gonna offer forty.
- 36:05Speaker 5: You're gonna offer below that.
- 36:06Speaker 4: Thirty. Yeah, so you do over thirty. So typically fifteen
- 36:09Speaker 4: percent below what you want is where you want to
- 36:11Speaker 4: be at. So that you do that, you put you
- 36:12Speaker 4: around thirty six thirty four thousand dollars to have the
- 36:15Speaker 4: wind built in exactly wind built in, and you never
- 36:18Speaker 4: know they might take thirty. You never know, right, you
- 36:20Speaker 4: can come up with twenty.
- 36:21Speaker 2: So let me ask you this because essentially it's like
- 36:26Speaker 2: a middleman situation.
- 36:27Speaker 5: Right, This whole world is about middle most richest companies in
- 36:31Speaker 5: the world are middleman. True Amazon, Walmart true you, Uber, Airbnb, Airbnb.
- 36:38Speaker 4: They don't own anything, they're middleman. Amazon's a logistic company.
- 36:43Speaker 5: They don't make products, they house products that other people
- 36:46Speaker 5: make and you buy.
- 36:46Speaker 4: Them they have in cloud stores.
- 36:49Speaker 5: Yeah, car dealerships. You can't buy a car in America
- 36:52Speaker 5: without going through a dealership.
- 36:53Speaker 4: They're middlemen. They don't make the car, they're they're middle men.
- 36:58Speaker 4: Middle Men make the most money in America. You got
- 37:00Speaker 4: to solve a problem with convenience.
- 37:02Speaker 2: True, this is true. So that's true. But so my
- 37:07Speaker 2: question is my question is all right, but why not?
- 37:12Speaker 2: Why is it more appealing in your opinion, to be
- 37:15Speaker 2: on that side of it as opposed to just buying it,
- 37:18Speaker 2: like just being an investor. Yeah, it's more risk involved
- 37:21Speaker 2: being arrested. It's a lot more risk, more money.
- 37:23Speaker 4: More risk and more more risk, more money.
- 37:27Speaker 5: But do you want a a fast nickel or a
- 37:31Speaker 5: slow dime? Depends on your business model. I see so
- 37:35Speaker 5: I see this a lot. I see where wholesalers think
- 37:38Speaker 5: it's a negative connotation to the name and they want
- 37:42Speaker 5: to be flippers. And then I see flippers looking at
- 37:44Speaker 5: wholesalers and wanting to be wholesalers.
- 37:46Speaker 4: So they see the product margins higher, the.
- 37:48Speaker 5: Risk versus reward. Now, can Amazon make every single product
- 37:52Speaker 5: they have in the store? Absolutely? Do they want to
- 37:56Speaker 5: take that risk of holding inventory that they own.
- 37:59Speaker 4: For what.
- 38:01Speaker 2: A fast nickel or a slow down. I like that.
- 38:05Speaker 3: So if we're doing this, if we're wholesaling as a
- 38:09Speaker 3: side thing, right, how much did you how many properties?
- 38:13Speaker 4: You think we have to do it before it becomes
- 38:16Speaker 4: a full time situation. It depends, right, everybody has their
- 38:20Speaker 4: free their freedom mark. You know. I always used to
- 38:23Speaker 4: say if I made six figures, I'd be great.
- 38:27Speaker 2: Until you made six figures.
- 38:30Speaker 5: So like, it's not, it's it just depends where you
- 38:33Speaker 5: want to be at right now. Some people love their job.
- 38:36Speaker 5: So like I've spoken to school teachers. They love their job,
- 38:39Speaker 5: they love their passionate about what they do. But if
- 38:42Speaker 5: they can get one property a month and make an
- 38:44Speaker 5: extra ten grand a.
- 38:45Speaker 4: Month, stop teaching. No, They're going to keep teaching because.
- 38:48Speaker 2: They just supplement your life because she gives you what
- 38:51Speaker 2: you want.
- 38:51Speaker 4: Now. I've had people say that and then actually.
- 38:53Speaker 2: Quit about that teaching. It's not coming to work tomorrow.
- 38:58Speaker 5: So if it depends on your life, where you want,
- 39:00Speaker 5: where you want to be at. For me, I wanted
- 39:02Speaker 5: to run a multi million dollar company. So we do
- 39:05Speaker 5: between like seven and twelve deals a month sometimes, and
- 39:09Speaker 5: you know that's where we're at. And we're not We're
- 39:11Speaker 5: not the largest. You know, we got guys across the
- 39:14Speaker 5: country doing way more deals than that. But my overhead's
- 39:17Speaker 5: pretty thin and we have a good lifestyle doing what
- 39:21Speaker 5: we do.
- 39:21Speaker 2: So what would be the obviously depends on the market,
- 39:23Speaker 2: Like in your market, what's the profit margin on average deal.
- 39:26Speaker 4: For your average deals?
- 39:27Speaker 2: Thirteen three thirteen three D.
- 39:30Speaker 4: Yeah, we track our KPIs pretty well.
- 39:31Speaker 2: What's KPI?
- 39:32Speaker 5: That me key performance indicators? So you're your your need
- 39:37Speaker 5: to know. I need to know how much money I'm
- 39:40Speaker 5: spending to get a deal right?
- 39:43Speaker 4: How many calls do I need to make to get
- 39:45Speaker 4: a yes? Right? And then did you start to get
- 39:47Speaker 4: an average?
- 39:48Speaker 5: How much money do I spend on this marketing effort
- 39:51Speaker 5: before it turns into an appointment? How many appointments do
- 39:55Speaker 5: I go on before it turns into a contract. And
- 39:58Speaker 5: if you know your numbers and your business, and this
- 40:00Speaker 5: is any business, then you scale.
- 40:03Speaker 2: So you're doing thirteen one thousand a deal, you're doing
- 40:06Speaker 2: thirteen of those a month, so.
- 40:07Speaker 4: It's like one hundred.
- 40:08Speaker 5: Well, our top ends twelve, right between seven and twelve
- 40:12Speaker 5: deals a month, so we're average around like ten.
- 40:14Speaker 3: Let's say if you do test so you're talking about
- 40:16Speaker 3: one hundred thousand.
- 40:17Speaker 2: Yeah a month, a month, yeah, good calendar, Yeah, good month. Yeah. Okay,
- 40:22Speaker 2: So what is assignments? Now you have to cash buyer,
- 40:25Speaker 2: you have assignments.
- 40:26Speaker 5: Assignment is essentially you have that original contract with the
- 40:31Speaker 5: seller and you're gonna sign your contract to that person.
- 40:36Speaker 4: So let me give you an example.
- 40:37Speaker 5: So let's just say you pull up. We're sitting over
- 40:41Speaker 5: at the bodega. I'm in New York.
- 40:42Speaker 4: Can use those words. You sit at the bodega.
- 40:45Speaker 5: You pull up, and you'd be like, Yo, Max, I'm
- 40:48Speaker 5: out of here, bro, I'm going to live in Vegas.
- 40:50Speaker 5: You know, I just got this new Mercedes right here.
- 40:53Speaker 5: I don't want it. I paid cash for it. I
- 40:55Speaker 5: paid one hundred thousand for it. I got it two
- 40:57Speaker 5: years ago. Yo, give me forty five thousand cash. You
- 41:00Speaker 5: can have this. That's a brand new S five fifty.
- 41:03Speaker 5: Take that right. So do I have the money sitting
- 41:06Speaker 5: at the boadaga?
- 41:07Speaker 4: Nah?
- 41:08Speaker 5: But I know my man down here gotta use car dealership.
- 41:10Speaker 5: So I said, all right, meet me back here Friday
- 41:12Speaker 5: with the money. I'm gonna have the money for you.
- 41:15Speaker 5: It's Monday, so I ain't got the money, but I'm
- 41:18Speaker 5: gonna go get it right because it's important. So I'm
- 41:21Speaker 5: gonna go hit you up and say, yo, you know,
- 41:24Speaker 5: I got a two thousand and eighteen S five fifty.
- 41:27Speaker 4: For fifty thousand dollars.
- 41:30Speaker 5: For Friday, but you gotta buy it Friday. My man said, cool,
- 41:33Speaker 5: I'll bring you the money Friday, all right, meet me
- 41:35Speaker 5: at the bow. Dagga, you meet me at the bowget
- 41:37Speaker 5: date with fifty. You said you wanted forty forty five.
- 41:40Speaker 4: I may hand you the money. You're gonna hand me
- 41:42Speaker 4: the key. I may hand you the keys you're gonna
- 41:44Speaker 4: give me. I got the middle part. You go sell
- 41:47Speaker 4: it because that's your job. Your business is selling cars.
- 41:51Speaker 5: You wash it up, you clean it, put some time,
- 41:54Speaker 5: sean on it, stick it on the car line. For
- 41:55Speaker 5: seventy five thousand. It's still a deal. And you may
- 41:59Speaker 5: five thousand, made five thousand, you on a plane in
- 42:01Speaker 5: Vegas because you just sick and tied in New York life,
- 42:04Speaker 5: and you just supplementing your business. You just made a
- 42:06Speaker 5: profit by investing your money. So so I signed my
- 42:11Speaker 5: contract to him that I had with you. Now, when
- 42:14Speaker 5: I signed that contract with you for Friday between Monday
- 42:17Speaker 5: and Friday.
- 42:18Speaker 4: What can you do with that car? So it nothing?
- 42:21Speaker 5: You couldn't sell it because if you sold it, I
- 42:22Speaker 5: would assued you for pacific performance of a contract, so
- 42:27Speaker 5: you couldn't. You already said to me, Yo, all right, Friday,
- 42:31Speaker 5: I'm gonna I wrote wrote a contract. You're gonna You're
- 42:33Speaker 5: gonna give me that car on Friday, and I'm gonna
- 42:36Speaker 5: pay you the X amount. Now, but do you keep
- 42:38Speaker 5: an attorney with you or you just write? These contracts work?
- 42:40Speaker 5: Once you have a standard template contract, you have it.
- 42:43Speaker 5: But this is real estate, like you, nobody's gonna run
- 42:45Speaker 5: off with the house, right, but people know that you
- 42:48Speaker 5: know you made an agreement. And here's what Here's what
- 42:51Speaker 5: happens when you when you pulled up with that car
- 42:54Speaker 5: and we signed that contract.
- 42:55Speaker 4: This is one part I did forget.
- 42:57Speaker 5: We have what they call a I gave you consideration
- 43:03Speaker 5: on that contract, which means money. So when we signed
- 43:06Speaker 5: that contract, I was like, Yo, here go one hundred dollars.
- 43:08Speaker 5: Hold on to that and now I'm gonna get you
- 43:10Speaker 5: the rest of the money Friday. So now you accepted
- 43:13Speaker 5: this hundred bucks.
- 43:14Speaker 4: For this contract. Now mean you in a valid contract
- 43:18Speaker 4: with actual consideration right now. Typically on real estate contracts
- 43:23Speaker 4: you have what you call a due dialance period, and
- 43:26Speaker 4: usually at one hundred dollars in my market will buy
- 43:29Speaker 4: you ten days.
- 43:30Speaker 5: So I know from the day I signed the contract
- 43:32Speaker 5: with you on your house, I got ten days to
- 43:34Speaker 5: go out and find a buyer. If I can't find
- 43:37Speaker 5: a buyer a bout a seven, I'm a no in
- 43:39Speaker 5: twenty four hours because I'm gonna shoot the property out.
- 43:41Speaker 5: If I can't find a buyer's I'm gonna call you up.
- 43:44Speaker 5: Hey man, you know I miss something on that house.
- 43:47Speaker 5: Either we're gonna renegotiate or we are going to just
- 43:51Speaker 5: cancel the contract. How do you find a buyer? Well,
- 43:54Speaker 5: they sharks. They have to spend money.
- 43:56Speaker 2: I was just thought about something, so correct me if
- 44:00Speaker 2: I'm wrong. But all business is kind of the same.
- 44:03Speaker 2: So these kind of business principles are very relatable. So
- 44:07Speaker 2: this is how I'm understanding it from my thirty minute
- 44:11Speaker 2: education so far, the easiest way to go was to
- 44:14Speaker 2: be there's people that buy home. There's real estate investors, right,
- 44:17Speaker 2: that's a job, but they may not necessarily have time,
- 44:22Speaker 2: or they don't want to knock on doors and cold
- 44:24Speaker 2: co and all that. So now you as essentially the
- 44:29Speaker 2: broker in this situation. You're doing that work that they
- 44:32Speaker 2: don't want to do. But they kind of need you
- 44:34Speaker 2: and you need them. So you establish relationships with big
- 44:37Speaker 2: time real estate investors in the neighborhood. You call them
- 44:40Speaker 2: with deals. Look, I got this property, Da da dada.
- 44:43Speaker 2: You establish a relationships with them, and they kind of
- 44:46Speaker 2: become reoccurring clients. It makes your job easier because now
- 44:50Speaker 2: you're not just winging it trying to just find random people.
- 44:54Speaker 2: You develop strong relationships. It makes their job easier because
- 44:57Speaker 2: they're not just winging and trying to find random properties.
- 44:59Speaker 2: They stay. They trust you because they know that you've
- 45:02Speaker 2: established good relationships and you know good properties, you know
- 45:05Speaker 2: good prices.
- 45:07Speaker 5: You bringing corect Yeah, you bring in a consistent product.
- 45:10Speaker 5: They need to spend money. That's how they make their money.
- 45:13Speaker 5: They decided to be on that side of the equation.
- 45:16Speaker 5: They don't want to go And that's why this business
- 45:18Speaker 5: takes no money because all it takes is hustle.
- 45:21Speaker 4: It ain't cost you nothing to go knock on that door,
- 45:23Speaker 4: ride down the street.
- 45:25Speaker 5: But once you have that house, now you need to
- 45:28Speaker 5: be in the relationships where you find people that when
- 45:32Speaker 5: you started?
- 45:33Speaker 4: Yeah, how did you develop the relationship to get a buyers?
- 45:36Speaker 4: I put it on Facebook marketplace that was it.
- 45:38Speaker 5: Yeah, and the guy called his wife called me, and
- 45:41Speaker 5: then that weekend he agreed to buy it.
- 45:44Speaker 2: So do you have like a team of investors and
- 45:47Speaker 2: enabled in your area now that you kind of like
- 45:49Speaker 2: work with on a continuous.
- 45:49Speaker 4: Basis about six hundred six hundred.
- 45:52Speaker 2: So how do you like email blasted? Out?
- 45:54Speaker 5: To be email blast and text blasts? So we use
- 45:56Speaker 5: Mailchimp to send out emails and we sell this send out.
- 45:59Speaker 5: We use call to send out.
- 46:01Speaker 4: A blast text message. Are they like fighting over the
- 46:03Speaker 4: deals sometimes? Oh? Yeah, that's what you want. I'm frizzy.
- 46:06Speaker 4: So you don't want to come buddy buddy with no investor?
- 46:09Speaker 5: Can't because I'm in a marketplace business business.
- 46:12Speaker 4: Yeah. So you say you're going to give me fifty
- 46:14Speaker 4: but you say fifty two. That's where I'm going. Everybody
- 46:19Speaker 4: gotta eat eat all facts.
- 46:22Speaker 2: This is dope. This is actually pretty Dope's actually pretty dope.
- 46:26Speaker 4: Now for the clothes. I got a question.
- 46:27Speaker 3: I saw this in one of your is a double closing.
- 46:31Speaker 3: I've never heard that before. What is a double closing.
- 46:34Speaker 5: So essentially, people are not not good with setting expectations.
- 46:40Speaker 5: I like to say with the buyer or seller, with
- 46:42Speaker 5: your client. They don't know that you are going to
- 46:45Speaker 5: make profit from this this deal or sometimes this profit
- 46:48Speaker 5: is too much.
- 46:49Speaker 4: Now we'll say not all the time. Sometimes the profit
- 46:51Speaker 4: is just too much.
- 46:52Speaker 5: So a double close is where you said, just to say,
- 46:55Speaker 5: that house down the street we're talking about instead of thirty,
- 46:58Speaker 5: you got it for ten thousand, right, and now.
- 47:00Speaker 4: You're selling it to the end.
- 47:02Speaker 5: Now you're selling it to the flipper for fifty thousand,
- 47:05Speaker 5: so you're making a forty thousand spread. And sometimes if
- 47:09Speaker 5: you don't have the right buyers, they may be like,
- 47:11Speaker 5: I'm not paying you fifty thousand. You got it for ten, right,
- 47:14Speaker 5: But the numbers really work for him, but he not
- 47:16Speaker 5: giving you that. So sometimes you go ahead and use
- 47:20Speaker 5: transactional funding to close on that first ten thousand and
- 47:24Speaker 5: then turn around the next minute and sell it to
- 47:27Speaker 5: my guy over here. But what happens is on a
- 47:29Speaker 5: HUDs sheet, which is a sheet that everybody has to
- 47:32Speaker 5: use it close the property, it's gonna say what you
- 47:34Speaker 5: bought it for. But if you do a double close,
- 47:37Speaker 5: he's never gonna see that side of the transaction. So
- 47:40Speaker 5: it's something that I tell people never. Really I've never
- 47:42Speaker 5: done one right, So it's not really needed, especially if
- 47:46Speaker 5: you just got to set a good expectation if you
- 47:48Speaker 5: have good cash buyers. And this is one of my
- 47:51Speaker 5: things I say to cash buyers, if I find a
- 47:53Speaker 5: property for a dollar and the numbers work for you
- 47:55Speaker 5: at one hundred thousand, would you be upset with me making.
- 47:58Speaker 4: Ninety nine thousand dollars fee?
- 48:00Speaker 5: They say, yes, kick them out, because when you change
- 48:03Speaker 5: your mindset, you realize money is not a limited thing.
- 48:06Speaker 5: When I started to think that I had to get
- 48:08Speaker 5: these properties because you know, you got money, when I
- 48:12Speaker 5: changed it and said, there's guys out here that if
- 48:15Speaker 5: they don't flip houses, they don't eat, they need me,
- 48:19Speaker 5: you know, So I no longer look at some money
- 48:22Speaker 5: as a limited commodity.
- 48:25Speaker 2: Attorney state versus title state, what's the difference with that.
- 48:28Speaker 5: Let me see, New York is an attorney state and
- 48:32Speaker 5: North Carolina is an attorney state. So in states you
- 48:36Speaker 5: have two ways you can close the real estate transaction.
- 48:39Speaker 5: Title companies which essentially do to title research and look
- 48:42Speaker 5: up the property, make sure it's free and clear. Are
- 48:44Speaker 5: called title states, they're actual companies. And then you have
- 48:47Speaker 5: attorney states where only attorneys are allowed to close real
- 48:50Speaker 5: estate transactions. And North Carolina and New York is an
- 48:53Speaker 5: attorney state. I believe Philly is a title company state.
- 48:58Speaker 5: In Baltimore is a Baltimore.
- 49:00Speaker 4: What's the process of setting up a closing with the
- 49:03Speaker 4: title company.
- 49:04Speaker 5: Yeah, So once you get that first contract with the homeowner,
- 49:07Speaker 5: you're gonna send the contract to the title company or
- 49:11Speaker 5: attorney and tell them to start title search. And all
- 49:15Speaker 5: title search does is to make sure the property is
- 49:18Speaker 5: owned free and clear, no lians on cumbers is on
- 49:21Speaker 5: the property, and that it can be transferred smoothly to
- 49:26Speaker 5: the new owner. And then once they do that, then
- 49:29Speaker 5: once you have that paperwork and you're out finding your buyer,
- 49:32Speaker 5: and then you call them and say, hey, look, I
- 49:34Speaker 5: have an assignment of that contract I gave you, And
- 49:36Speaker 5: all they're gonna do is switch your name with the
- 49:38Speaker 5: new buyer's name, and your fee is written on that contract.
- 49:41Speaker 5: And at the closing, you're gonna get your money, and
- 49:44Speaker 5: then the seller is gonna get their money and the
- 49:46Speaker 5: buyer's gonna walk away with the property.
- 49:48Speaker 2: And a contract depends on each state. It is different.
- 49:51Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, typically it's different.
- 49:53Speaker 2: Eat once you have on, it's like a template.
- 49:55Speaker 4: Yes, you keep filling it out.
- 49:57Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so we're gonna close it out in
- 50:00Speaker 2: the next segment. Well once again. Free education. One thing
- 50:03Speaker 2: I like about RELASI is that it's a really cool
- 50:07Speaker 2: platform because you get to learn, like from not It's
- 50:11Speaker 2: not just it's one thing to learn from. Somebody can
- 50:13Speaker 2: just google something. But when you learn from somebody that
- 50:16Speaker 2: you can know what somebody's actually know what they're talking about,
- 50:18Speaker 2: somebody's actually doing it in real time. It's like mentorship almost.
- 50:22Speaker 2: It's like free mentorship. It's better than free education.
- 50:24Speaker 4: It's free mentorship by far.
- 50:26Speaker 3: It's cool because like we get to see people people
- 50:28Speaker 3: with crespy that they want to see on and then
- 50:30Speaker 3: like we get to learn about the people and then
- 50:32Speaker 3: they come and it's like wow, this is amazing.
- 50:34Speaker 4: Like we're learning too, Like right now, I love this, man,
- 50:37Speaker 4: I wish there's more this.
- 50:38Speaker 2: I love it now. It's turned into a whole different
- 50:41Speaker 2: It's turned into something that we never even really thought
- 50:43Speaker 2: it would get to it because it's like, like I said,
- 50:45Speaker 2: this is actually better than the education. This is this
- 50:48Speaker 2: is free mentorship. I appreciate that. Man. You just gave
- 50:52Speaker 2: a lot of good information for sure. So all right,
- 50:55Speaker 2: we're gonna close it out in the last segment. All right,
- 50:58Speaker 2: so we're gonna close it out. We gonna talk about
- 51:00Speaker 2: some branding stuff and mindset. But before we do, I
- 51:03Speaker 2: just had a couple of closing questions about the real
- 51:06Speaker 2: estate business. So all right, so how much money? You
- 51:09Speaker 2: don't really need any money to get started, but I
- 51:10Speaker 2: guess you kind of need some money for like to
- 51:13Speaker 2: pay for these apps and to pay for like postcards
- 51:15Speaker 2: and so like, if somebody just wanted to get started today, right, realistically,
- 51:20Speaker 2: how much money would they actually need an operational cost
- 51:24Speaker 2: to get up and running.
- 51:25Speaker 5: To go for like a month, maybe like three or
- 51:28Speaker 5: four hundred bucks because when the home Yeah, because when
- 51:32Speaker 5: you download deal machine, you don't need to pay for postcards.
- 51:36Speaker 4: I'm not telling you to send postcards. I'm saying it
- 51:38Speaker 4: has that function.
- 51:39Speaker 5: I just need you to go around snapping pictures of
- 51:41Speaker 5: these properties and then go on a computer and download
- 51:46Speaker 5: the actual property list that you found, and then upload
- 51:50Speaker 5: those the skip traits and already skip and then now
- 51:53Speaker 5: you have those numbers for fifteen cents apiece. And now
- 51:57Speaker 5: everybody got a cell phone, so I'm not counting that.
- 52:00Speaker 5: And then you make those phone calls and once they
- 52:01Speaker 5: take that picture, that stays in the database. It stays
- 52:03Speaker 5: in the database.
- 52:04Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, it's what anything like pitfalls that people
- 52:08Speaker 2: should be aware of gone in regards to.
- 52:11Speaker 4: Common mistakes and anything like that.
- 52:12Speaker 5: Yeah, common mistakes as people get So real estate is
- 52:15Speaker 5: Rashaanna Scott.
- 52:16Speaker 4: Actually I know pretty well. I was talking to her
- 52:17Speaker 4: before I got here.
- 52:18Speaker 5: She posted something and said, real estate is not emotional, right,
- 52:21Speaker 5: So take out the emotion that you want to make
- 52:23Speaker 5: this money because it's about numbers.
- 52:26Speaker 4: Right.
- 52:26Speaker 5: If the numbers don't work, the numbers don't work, don't
- 52:28Speaker 5: force it. Don't walk into a house and tell me
- 52:30Speaker 5: there's ten thousand dollars in repairs.
- 52:31Speaker 4: No such thing. I can fix some steps for ten
- 52:34Speaker 4: thousand dollars.
- 52:35Speaker 5: Right, So you got to be careful that your emotion
- 52:37Speaker 5: is not making you make decisions that don't make sense.
- 52:40Speaker 5: So you know, really, and don't think this is a
- 52:43Speaker 5: get rich quit scheme. Don't do that, Like this is
- 52:46Speaker 5: not that. Let's not do that. This is a wealth
- 52:48Speaker 5: building thing. And you gotta really be obsessed and really
- 52:53Speaker 5: put some time behind this. Like I don't watch sports anymore.
- 52:56Speaker 5: I haven't watched down on football in three years. I haven't.
- 53:01Speaker 5: I don't really listen to radio. I'm podcast so, like
- 53:05Speaker 5: I don't listen to much music or anything like that.
- 53:07Speaker 5: I read allotted my time to be a better person.
- 53:12Speaker 4: So you need to.
- 53:13Speaker 5: Spend that actual time in actual being obsessed with something.
- 53:17Speaker 5: And once you become obsessed with something, you ain't got
- 53:19Speaker 5: no choice but to be good at it.
- 53:21Speaker 4: Yeah, I heard you say that.
- 53:22Speaker 3: You were like, listen, I get in the car, I'm
- 53:24Speaker 3: listening to the podcasts. I stopped listening to music. I'm like, wow,
- 53:28Speaker 3: that's tough. Yeah, it's a brainwash. I mean that's how
- 53:30Speaker 3: I found you guys, podcasts. Yeah, just once you become obsessed.
- 53:34Speaker 2: I like that a lot. Once you become obsessed with something,
- 53:36Speaker 2: you have no choice but to become good at it.
- 53:38Speaker 4: That's just true.
- 53:39Speaker 2: Like even with this thing, like I'm obsessed with it,
- 53:43Speaker 2: like we're all obsessed with it, but like I'm really
- 53:45Speaker 2: obsessed with it. Like they know, like I won't sleep
- 53:48Speaker 2: some time, I won't eat.
- 53:50Speaker 5: When I first started this business, I would grind my
- 53:53Speaker 5: teeth at night. I don't know how many people experience this,
- 53:56Speaker 5: but my body did not want me to sleep because
- 53:59Speaker 5: it was like I found the magic button right. So
- 54:04Speaker 5: sleeping was a hard thing to do, and I would
- 54:06Speaker 5: grind my teeth to night. I would wake up with
- 54:07Speaker 5: like sore teeth, so I had to go to the
- 54:09Speaker 5: store and buy a mouthguard to sleep with at night.
- 54:13Speaker 2: I always say for me personally, like as a business owner, entrepreneur,
- 54:16Speaker 2: somebody that's really doing something, either you're going to bed
- 54:19Speaker 2: late like myself, like three o'clock in the morning, or
- 54:23Speaker 2: you're going to bed early, but you're waking up at
- 54:25Speaker 2: like four o'clock. If you're not doing one of those
- 54:27Speaker 2: two things, like if you go to bed early and
- 54:30Speaker 2: you wake up late, I can't trust you.
- 54:32Speaker 4: You can't trust you.
- 54:33Speaker 2: Because that lets me know you're sleeping too quick. If
- 54:35Speaker 2: you sleep good, I can't trust you.
- 54:39Speaker 4: You're not tired. I tell you. I tell everybody, Lisia
- 54:43Speaker 4: did not sleep. I know he's up that night.
- 54:44Speaker 3: I know I'm waking up at five thirty five o'clock
- 54:47Speaker 3: in the morning. We don't any Lisia doesn't sleep.
- 54:49Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, that's just it's and then you don't
- 54:51Speaker 5: mind it though it doesn't become a thing.
- 54:53Speaker 4: You know, it's like yo, just you know.
- 54:55Speaker 3: It's interesting is that the people they like, they ask
- 54:58Speaker 3: the how, like how are you doing it? And I'm
- 55:00Speaker 3: you don't understand, Like I can I see the impact.
- 55:03Speaker 3: We're obsessed with that, like no, no, no, there's no time.
- 55:07Speaker 3: We'll see later, no time for that.
- 55:09Speaker 2: So one thing I like about you is that it's
- 55:10Speaker 2: not just real estate with you. You you like you
- 55:12Speaker 2: always see a bigger picture. So you we talk like
- 55:15Speaker 2: you really branded yourself well, like so yeah, you talk
- 55:18Speaker 2: about that, Like what when did you realize that you
- 55:21Speaker 2: need to brand yourself your business bigger than just whole
- 55:26Speaker 2: You could have just made a lot of money wholesaling,
- 55:27Speaker 2: but you have a bigger vision in that.
- 55:29Speaker 5: So when I started, I didn't when I when I
- 55:31Speaker 5: did my first conference, we call it we Live, which
- 55:34Speaker 5: means Wholesaling Elite Live. When I did that in Charlotte,
- 55:37Speaker 5: North Carolina, when my mentors was there for the he
- 55:43Speaker 5: was closing the show Sunday and he so he got
- 55:46Speaker 5: to see Friday and Saturday and he came down Sunday
- 55:51Speaker 5: before he spoke and he was like, he said, uh,
- 55:56Speaker 5: you know, I sat in the bed last night and
- 55:57Speaker 5: I started I was crying to my wife. I said,
- 56:00Speaker 5: what happened? He was like, what you have done? The
- 56:04Speaker 5: impact you're making on these people. I'm looking at four
- 56:06Speaker 5: hundred and thirty people in this room that looked like you.
- 56:10Speaker 5: That's like all intrigued, eyes wide open, ready to get game.
- 56:16Speaker 5: And that from that day forward, we really started branding
- 56:20Speaker 5: ourselves on purpose. Everything else was kind of like just happened.
- 56:23Speaker 4: It was just the energy.
- 56:26Speaker 5: And then so I started branding myself on purpose because
- 56:29Speaker 5: I wanted to get the word out. And you know,
- 56:32Speaker 5: one of my mentors, Gary Vee, I see y'all met
- 56:34Speaker 5: him a complex the moment. Yeah, he was like, just
- 56:39Speaker 5: give it away, give it away, give it away.
- 56:41Speaker 4: And that's what I became good at, was just giving
- 56:42Speaker 4: away the information I got called from people. That was
- 56:46Speaker 4: that I looked up into this industry literally phone calls.
- 56:49Speaker 5: Was like, what are you doing. You're giving away this game.
- 56:53Speaker 5: You know those people make millions and millions of dollars
- 56:55Speaker 5: being a coach, but don't actually do this business. So
- 56:59Speaker 5: I'm not hate and you get your money out the mud.
- 57:01Speaker 5: I don't care how you get it.
- 57:02Speaker 4: It's your thing. But I seen it as a way,
- 57:05Speaker 4: you know.
- 57:05Speaker 5: I was just telling y'all, like, you know, if you
- 57:07Speaker 5: were if you were overweight and you found this fruit
- 57:11Speaker 5: that that made you lose weight, You're gonna tell everybody
- 57:14Speaker 5: about it.
- 57:14Speaker 4: You don't want to sell it, You're gonna.
- 57:15Speaker 5: Tell everybody about it, you know, so because it brought
- 57:19Speaker 5: you so much joy. So for me, it was just
- 57:24Speaker 5: when I started branding myself and realizing then I started.
- 57:28Speaker 5: I was like, this is it. I got my first
- 57:29Speaker 5: YouTube check remem I was like two hundred and fourteen dollars.
- 57:32Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is real.
- 57:36Speaker 4: Simlar feelings, similar feeling. Then we started creating content more
- 57:41Speaker 4: and more and more.
- 57:42Speaker 5: I spent money to be in the same room as
- 57:44Speaker 5: Gary Vee, started following his model.
- 57:46Speaker 4: And it's the true. It's the true.
- 57:49Speaker 5: Next way to be a billionaire is having a brand.
- 57:51Speaker 5: But you can't force it right s. Either you got
- 57:54Speaker 5: it or you don't. So you know, I would say,
- 57:57Speaker 5: make sure you got your bag first and then try
- 57:59Speaker 5: to build what you need to build. But your brand
- 58:02Speaker 5: is the next big thing. I make more money on
- 58:04Speaker 5: my brand than I do in real estate. A lot
- 58:05Speaker 5: of people won't tell you that in this business, I
- 58:08Speaker 5: make considerably, probably five times as much more from active
- 58:13Speaker 5: wholesaling to my brand.
- 58:16Speaker 2: And with that brand, like, what's the revenue from like
- 58:18Speaker 2: streams like you have like because you don't have.
- 58:22Speaker 4: Of course, right have said you turned down TV?
- 58:24Speaker 2: What how does your brand make your money?
- 58:26Speaker 4: We have partnerships with a lot of products that we use.
- 58:30Speaker 5: Once I built brand partnerships, Yeah, once I built the audience,
- 58:34Speaker 5: people wanted the attention from the audience that we had,
- 58:37Speaker 5: so we do brand deals with a lot of people.
- 58:39Speaker 5: So that's in the probably the tunes of like two million.
- 58:42Speaker 5: We built products for ourselves in office that really worked
- 58:46Speaker 5: and we told the public about it, and that's probably
- 58:49Speaker 5: like another four million in revenue from products and speaking engagements.
- 58:57Speaker 5: You know, we're at like twenty twenty five thousand engagement now.
- 59:01Speaker 5: So those things really help. And then not only it
- 59:05Speaker 5: builds credibility. With having the credibility and people watching me
- 59:10Speaker 5: do flips and do all this stuff like that. Because
- 59:12Speaker 5: I do flips, I have rentalds buy an apartment complex tomorrow.
- 59:16Speaker 4: Actually, you start to get that private.
- 59:20Speaker 5: Money lot faster. People start to trust you, right, because
- 59:24Speaker 5: they know it's real. I'm not going to ruin my
- 59:26Speaker 5: reputation over No, two hundred thousand dollars. You know that's
- 59:29Speaker 5: a weekend. So we're not about to do that over here.
- 59:34Speaker 4: Don't let that go over your head. Yeah, have Bernie.
- 59:40Speaker 5: So a brand is powerful, like it's it's it's it's
- 59:42Speaker 5: real powerful. I mean, look at that story where Kylie Jenner,
- 59:46Speaker 5: did y'all see that she just swimed me out and
- 59:48Speaker 5: for y'all had the podcast, but she just sold sixty
- 59:53Speaker 5: She's well, it'll be done next year.
- 59:56Speaker 4: And she sold it for six hundred million. Yep.
- 1:00:00Speaker 3: So now it's like now she's worth one point four
- 1:00:02Speaker 3: billion or something like that.
- 1:00:04Speaker 4: Yeah she got cash. Yeah yeah, yeah two.
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: I mean different the brand is. That's one thing I
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: even said about this, Like people ask me like how
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: to earn your leasure start? I get that question a lot,
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: and I was telling them. I tell people the same
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: story all the time that my original plan, honestly, to
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: be in full transparency, my original plan for the podcast
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: was just to keep building my own personal brand of
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: a financial advisor. So I was building my own personal sense. Yeah,
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: I thought I thought this would be a good way
- 1:00:33Speaker 2: to have extended dialogue to keep building my own personal brand.
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: But this became bigger than my personal brand. A brand's
- 1:00:40Speaker 2: always gonna be bigger than your own personal vision. Now,
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: people don't understand to a lot of times, people who
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: just have selfish motivation, and it's human nature. You always
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: want yourself to be the biggest thing, even though your
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: brand technically is yourself. But people don't really look at
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: it like that, so they push themselves. But you're gonna
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: push yourself so far. But a brand Nike, it's bigger
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: than phil Knight, But phil Knight is Nike. So Nike
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: can never really be bigger than Phil Knight because he
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: is Nike. Yeah, but he's not tripping like Phil Knight
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: has to do this.
- 1:01:09Speaker 3: Checks come through regardless. I like to peel nice. You said,
- 1:01:14Speaker 3: like even when you talk, you can hear it. You
- 1:01:15Speaker 3: say we, and you say even though you have Max Maxwell,
- 1:01:17Speaker 3: you're saying we. I mean people are part of the team.
- 1:01:20Speaker 5: I have a team, man without them, Like I got
- 1:01:22Speaker 5: fourteen employees full time, yeah, all full time.
- 1:01:26Speaker 4: Four of them work strictly just on my brand.
- 1:01:29Speaker 5: You know, I spent a lot of money on it now,
- 1:01:32Speaker 5: I mean we just bought a lot of new equipment,
- 1:01:34Speaker 5: for a new set that we're doing to put out
- 1:01:36Speaker 5: a new show, like YouTube show. Yeah, yeah, we're putting
- 1:01:40Speaker 5: out a new YouTube show. I'll be honest. I really
- 1:01:44Speaker 5: love the show impact theory from from Uh Tom Bill
- 1:01:50Speaker 5: You so it's about he speaks a lot on mine,
- 1:01:56Speaker 5: but I want to put that twist on it. So
- 1:01:59Speaker 5: you know, I just want to put out talk more
- 1:02:00Speaker 5: about entrepreneurship. And we just built a brand new set.
- 1:02:04Speaker 5: I got a crazy team in Carolina.
- 1:02:05Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. We've been getting a lot of requests
- 1:02:07Speaker 4: to come down.
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: Come down for sure. I got show you how Far
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: you from from.
- 1:02:12Speaker 4: From Charlotte hour and twenty minutes.
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: We're gonna come down to rock with We're gonna do
- 1:02:15Speaker 2: something in Charlotte. Arlotte, the biggest.
- 1:02:17Speaker 4: Market Carolina's been like, y, you gotta come North Carolina.
- 1:02:19Speaker 5: To do something together. I mean, I get like tomorrow
- 1:02:23Speaker 5: will do something. We'll have two hundred and fifty three
- 1:02:24Speaker 5: hundred people come out.
- 1:02:25Speaker 2: Yeah, we do something.
- 1:02:27Speaker 4: We got We're coming Carolina, North Carolina. We're coming.
- 1:02:30Speaker 2: Shout out to North Carolina.
- 1:02:32Speaker 4: Now.
- 1:02:33Speaker 2: This is dope, man. I really really really enjoyed this
- 1:02:35Speaker 2: episode a lot. I always enjoy episodes where we learned
- 1:02:37Speaker 2: think people is really gonna be because it's a realistic story.
- 1:02:42Speaker 2: And that's why I think a lot of most of
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: our guests come from humble beginnings. So it's like, what's
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: your excuse, Like, what's your excuse? So it's like if
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: you can do it from having dyslexia, We even talk
- 1:02:54Speaker 2: about that, but having dyslexia and being a war veteran
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: and having a negative four hundred dollars to running a
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: top million dollar business in.
- 1:03:01Speaker 4: Three years is gonna be crazy.
- 1:03:04Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, even even when you say that, when
- 1:03:06Speaker 5: I'm listening to you say that, I'm crazy that you
- 1:03:08Speaker 5: talk about me. Yeah, because it's still brand yourself. Like
- 1:03:12Speaker 5: it's still so brand new. It's so brand new, Like
- 1:03:15Speaker 5: I don't like it's just yo, it's it's just different.
- 1:03:19Speaker 5: It's different. Like for me to be able to come out,
- 1:03:22Speaker 5: we just spent sixteen thousand dollars on new cameras.
- 1:03:25Speaker 3: That's crazy, that's a call, no, but you know that's
- 1:03:30Speaker 3: hell with the money.
- 1:03:31Speaker 5: It's like I can do that. Yeah, it's a feeling,
- 1:03:35Speaker 5: you know, so like and it's still so brand new.
- 1:03:37Speaker 5: So for me, it's like it's all humbling, man, And
- 1:03:40Speaker 5: like the most important thing for me. It's like my
- 1:03:43Speaker 5: mom is good, Like I'm cool now, my mom is great.
- 1:03:47Speaker 5: So I think, like, you know, because I'm not married,
- 1:03:49Speaker 5: I don't have no kids, so my wife is my mother, right,
- 1:03:54Speaker 5: you know how you make your parents so they just
- 1:03:56Speaker 5: sacrifice so much and even just to be able to
- 1:03:59Speaker 5: be born in America, it was a big sacrifice.
- 1:04:02Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:04:02Speaker 5: So we're gonna remind you of it too. Yeah, every day.
- 1:04:05Speaker 5: But I'm gladly reminded of it now. So you know,
- 1:04:08Speaker 5: just just having those that why that for me was
- 1:04:10Speaker 5: my mother.
- 1:04:10Speaker 4: Man.
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
- 1:04:12Speaker 4: Man.
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- 1:04:39Speaker 4: Dollars I need after this episode, After this episode, is
- 1:04:41Speaker 4: gonna be. We're gonna go live with it. We did.
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- 1:06:00Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, the merchers is popping right now. And
- 1:06:03Speaker 2: don't forget d C December seventh, December eighth, we're coming.
- 1:06:06Speaker 2: We're coming to the d m V not just d C,
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: PG County, Baltimore, Virginia, everybody in the area with us.
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. Shout out to Rashaana Scott. She's gonna
- 1:06:14Speaker 2: be talking about real estate. We're gonna have MG, the
- 1:06:17Speaker 2: mortgage guy in real estate as well.
- 1:06:19Speaker 4: What's your what's your calendar?
- 1:06:20Speaker 5: Looking like I was just looking at him, it would
- 1:06:23Speaker 5: be there. Yeah, yeah, yea, I'm gonna be there. I
- 1:06:26Speaker 5: think we leave for the Philippines on eleventh, so.
- 1:06:28Speaker 4: Will be there. Pull up y'all.
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: Added, Yeah, come network with us, man, we got Wall
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: Street Trap. He's gonna be a whole part of we're
- 1:06:39Speaker 2: gonna have Derek Falcon from Home Made. I'm pretty sure
- 1:06:41Speaker 2: he'll pop up on us I have. I think that
- 1:06:44Speaker 2: for the networking event we're gonna have, we're gonna have
- 1:06:47Speaker 2: a few. We're gonna have a few.
- 1:06:48Speaker 4: People going to be serious, a few people.
- 1:06:51Speaker 2: Man, So make sure that you you come through for that.
- 1:06:54Speaker 2: All information is on our website on the events to having.
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: The book tip of this week is the people Principle.
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: I read this book a few years back. It's on
- 1:07:03Speaker 2: don Hugh Peeples. People may not know who he is,
- 1:07:07Speaker 2: but he's he's huge. He's a black real estate developer.
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: He used to own the hotel in uh, Miami that
- 1:07:14Speaker 2: we stayed at. What's the name of that blue? None
- 1:07:18Speaker 2: of that found Blue. It was by found you know,
- 1:07:20Speaker 2: not at one bottle Loads. It was Bottle Loads. I
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: forget the name of it. But man, he owned the
- 1:07:25Speaker 2: hotel in Miami on the strip. But yeah, he's a
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: he's a very interesting guy. So if you're interested, and
- 1:07:30Speaker 2: he's from DC.
- 1:07:31Speaker 3: Also, yeah, we had him on our list, remember like
- 1:07:33Speaker 3: movie first coming up with ideas of people who we want.
- 1:07:35Speaker 4: Yeah, he was right on ours.
- 1:07:37Speaker 2: Yeah, check that book out if you're interested in and
- 1:07:39Speaker 2: hearing a good story. You're interested in real estate for sure.
- 1:07:43Speaker 2: Thank you guys for rocking with us. We'll see you
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: next week. Peace Peace.
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