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DA CREW PODCAST SEASON 2_ EPISODE _21_ HOST SHANETTE W JOHNSON · DA CREW Podcast

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Will you good? Good evening. Thank you for joining me for another
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episode and let's talk talk about it. I do apologize for being a tabit
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late. But I'm not at home. I'm in Denver right now and I'm
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having a little issue with the Wi Fi at the hotel. But without further
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adude, let me braing on my guest, I'll be having a conversation this
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evening with Glenn Camp. He is currently incarcerated at the dr DC in Denver,
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Colorado. He was sentenced to one hundred and ninety two years plus life.
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He is a father. He also has two books out. I believe
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before his incarceration he was a car brother. So help me walk on Glenn
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Camp to let's talk. Hey, Glen, how are you this evening?
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I'm doing well, Michelle, now wave, I mean I shouldn't that.
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How are you? I'm doing well. I'm doing well. Well. I'm
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glad that you chose me to come to talk about your situation. So I
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would like for you to go ahead and talk to the view the viewers.
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Let them know something about you, let them know about you. Well.
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I was actually I was raised on a form you know, as a as
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a as a young lads, you know, and I raised in a family
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own business. Uh like uh, some kids, you know, they have
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talking trumps you know, as toys, but I had heavy equipment, you
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know, grew up with heavy equipment as my toys, and my father started
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me out working on it, you know, operating you know, at a
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very early age, and I became pretty good at it. And after I
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worked some as a heavyquotment operator, I took five year apprenticeship as a carpenter,
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you know, the general contractor in the residential industry, you know,
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retiring homes and adding on rooms, just anything and ceramic, twel anything that
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that needed to be done to a house. And so you know, as
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far as my livelihood, that's what I'm done on for some kind of construction
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most of my life. Okay, so let's get let's get down to this
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what's at hand on this evening. What would you like to be viewers to
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know about your situation? Would you like to start from the beginning, because
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you agreed to come back if we run out of time to continue our discussion
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about what's going on, So you have a you have the floor, and
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you know, to discuss what you want to discuss at this time. Uh
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huh, Well, I believe I was wrong and convicted and senised you know,
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very own the uh the uh prosecuting attorney in this case, moved to
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amend my charges and add some elements you know to my crime to the crime
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first risks first, Uh, sexual assault. Uh. This stem from an
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altercation you know, that I had with my children's mother. I had found
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the night that we had you know this right, mostly verbal. I had
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found that she had been drugging my children and locking away in the bedroom.
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And I was carroused around you know, in and outside our home and uh
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uh my six month old son, you know, died. I had gotten
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up to work one morning to go to work, and I was called back
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and told my sons did And when I got back home, the police worked
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my apartment and that I could still then they wouldn't let me in, but
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I could still see my six month old son lying dead in the floor that
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you know, really you know, tore me up. It wasn't until two
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weeks after this incident that I found she wasn't with him the night that he
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died, that she had set out all night, And when I got back
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in when I got ready to go to bed and get ready for work the
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next morning, she was on the couch as though she had been there all
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night. I found later that she had not gotten back till not long before
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I got ready to go to work. And so you know, this kind
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of is where the argument and fight you know started front. It was a
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ledge, you know that I had beat her with my fists, you know,
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and a shoe and what have you. Uh, what I did do,
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And you know, I regret doing what I did because I know that
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there's no reason why a man should put his hand on a woman. I
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bought her with the heel of my hand, you know, one time between
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her eyes, and she got a bunny nose and a black eye out of
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it. I took her to the emergency room, you know, earlier next
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morning when I took her to the emergency room. Uh, that was the
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only injury that was reported, was Uh, she said that she had some
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neck. I was later convicted of first gree or soul. Well, le
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didn't breaking her nose. But when I read the medical report, the word
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nose was never mentioned in a medical report. No was there any close emergency
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room examination treatment for a nose injuries. So even though there wasn't, you
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know, the doctrine. Two weeks after this incident, the detectives went back
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to the hospital and got the doctor to sign up serious body injury form said
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that there were breaks in fractions. The doctor's side has formed. But a
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few months afterwards emailed the prosecute attorney and told the prosecute Atturney that he was
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mistaken when he signed the serious body entryport indicated that there was breaks and fractures
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because they did not take any X rays of any many with her hands because
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their fingers were swollen pullet and there were no breaks or fractures in our hands.
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And so you know, I remained in jail for a whiles, and
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about a week before trial, the district attorney went and talked to the doctor
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again at the hospital and got him to come to testify a trial and say
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that in his opinion, you know, her nose was broken, even though
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the nose was never mentioned as an injury. So I was convicted and given
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sixty four years to first the girl saw well that they breaking a nose that
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was never reported as an entry. So I I have a question and real
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quick. So you you said that you was at work and you got a
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phone call that your son was deceased, Yes, and that from her that
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she would go out she would go out and you know, for her,
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when she would go out, she would drug, she would drug the kids.
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Was it, I'm just was it any charges brought against her? They
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they recommended the charges to be brought against her resulting in death. H that's
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a district. The Turney that was prosecuting me went to the intake prosecutor and
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they decided they weren't going to foil any choices against her, you know,
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to have her testify against me. So okay, so your son life didn't
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didn't mean nothing to them, but a broken those be mean a lot to
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them. Yes, you know they uh, they vowed the emotion in lemony,
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which is emotion to stop, you know, to just allow you know,
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any kind of certain information into the jury. They vowed the emotion in
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lemony to keep me the information about my son, uh out of from the
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jury from hearing anything about my son. Uh. So the jury never heard
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that my son, you know, lost his life, you know, uh,
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that my son had died and done. The judge granted that. And
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so my attorney was supposedly talked to the sixteen year old bid that she had
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been out with all night and he was the same kid that she had been
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sending to the store to buy the adult night quill, and she was given
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to my seven and five year old and drugging him and locking him up in
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the bedroom. And she was putting liquid night quill in my son's my six
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month old son's milk and locking him in the way and locking him away in
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the bedroom with him. So you know, this is this is this is
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how we got to where we are now. So right now we have a
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question, uh from patreat. She would like to know that what charges did
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she get? She didn't get any charges. You know, I was told
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by our mother later, you know, that she was threatened. You know,
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they she had disappeared, I believe, you know, while I was
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still in jail, and about a week before a trial, you know,
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she her sister, I think knew where she was, and I told the
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prosecutor where she was. And so I was told that she was threatened.
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You know that if she didn't testify I guessing that she would get twenty four
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years herself for appending brand loss in that she had and she had just been
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on probation for brand lost and wow, well you know, it's just to
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me, it's just unbelievable. Well that a baby life, a six month
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old baby life, wasn't important. You know, she's drugging this baby.
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She's giving this baby and the rest of the children adult night quill, putting
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them to sleep so she can go out and do her thing. Wasn't No
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charges broke up against her. But and uh all that you know in you
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guys altercation, she received a broken nose. Yeah, and that's why that's
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where and and you are incarcerated because of a broken nose for the first hand
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plan for the first girl sought charge. Oh wow, I'm gonna yes,
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get it, call me, call me right back out. Just I'm gonna
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talk to my audience. And you know this, this, this is,
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this is outrage. Outrage you you you give a man one hundred and ninety
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two years plus life, the cooler plus life, but you have a mother
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with three children I believe he said, seven, five and six months him
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adult night quel locking them in the room so she can go out and party.
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And no charges bring brung up against that? No charges. And this
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is once again we're in voting. See this is the year to vote.
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Tomorrow is voting all over the all over the states, the States is voting
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for judges. Do your research on these people that you're allowing to get on
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these benches. Some of them pro promises everything, Oh I'm gonna I'm gonna
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do this, I'm gonna do that, and in reality, they ain't gonna
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do it. They ain't gonna do nothing until their family is facing something like
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this. It doesn't make any sense, any sense to allow these people to
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sit on these benches and rule. Are you back? Yes? Sam?
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Okay, go ahead? Uh? What was like? Okay, So let's
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you know, I was just I was just like kind of amazed that it
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wasn't no charges brung up on her, you know about drugging, the drugging
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the kids. You know, that's that's that's unbelievable. Yeah, you know
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pretty much all of dis memory didn't have anything of her. It was really
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good. Yeah, you know you really kept away from the jersey. Uh.
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It was you know, like I said, it was the next you
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have me know what, it's you and I have doctors braiding the dogs something
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fine. That's when I recovered not what thirty like you going down? That's
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where I found you act rich? Can Can you hear a handling? Boy?
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I think that. Can you can you hear now? Can you hear
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me? Y'all? Volume is very low, it's very low. It's like
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you in the tunnel. It's like I'm in a tunnel. Yeah, we
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can't hear you at all either. You can't hear me at all. No,
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we couldn't hear you either. I think it's my WiFi connection over here.
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What about now? Yeah, we can hear you. Now, you
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can hear Can you hear him now? Hello? Okay, go ahead,
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now, okay, go ahead, Glenn, Okay. Yeah. So when
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you know when he uh told me what had happened. When I got home
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to confron with what I've just been told, I uh, she was not
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at home again, and we had what got her sister, you know,
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from Oklahoma, uh when the baby die brought her and her sister and brother
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in law out here. And so her sister was asleep on my floot sofa.
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So I woke her up and asked her, you know, where her
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sister was, and she told me that she was two doors down. I
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went down and knocked on the door. And this was about three thirty in
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the morning actually, and I went down and knocked on the door and let
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you know, let me in, and there was a full time bed blocking
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the door, you know where I could only move about four feet inside the
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apartment in a little four year area, And so I stepped into that,
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you know, and she was there, you know, passed out on the
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footown. Then there was another man laying on the bed beside her with a
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you know. Uh he was fully dressed. She wasn't you know dressed,
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you know, covered too well. And so I woke her up, and
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that was on there. Boy, it can't entered and decide the wall work
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and get down through the side of the wall and wake her up. Well,
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I woke her up and I had to slide back out in the face
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to allow her to walk out. Uh. The lady of the apartment that
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went into the kitchen to get a drink of water. And so when she
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got up, she started down that little spot down through the wall and she
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corner footton bed and fell face first into my chest. And so the only
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thing that I could do the door was still open behind me, was taking
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a step backwards, and about that time the lady was coming back around the
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group going out of the kitchen and saw her face first into my chest and
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be taking a step backwards out into the hallway, and she testified and travel
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let you know, it looked as though I was dragging her. Uh.
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And so that's where I get my second kidnapping children. You know. It
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was uh from when she fell into my chest and I stepped out into the
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hall. UH later her husband when we left, I'm putting my home around
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her. I'm putting my jacket over her shoulders and stuff. She didn't have
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on a clothing, just a skirt, and I put my jacket around her
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shoulders and we started two doors down to our apartment. And the only other
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person that saw us at the time of the morning was the lady of the
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house. His husband, who looked down into the hallway he was asked to
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trial, was darting to scratching. I'm picking up fighting and he told them
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no, it just looked like two people going home. She was drunk.
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He had his arm around her shoulder, and they were going home, you
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know. But still, you know, I was. I was. I
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was charged with second for kidnapping. Uh. It was the last that I
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had committed that couldn't kidnapping with a dead few weapon my hand. But UH
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also read at uh I mean cut you off with us? Why is on
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my mind? I also read that the deadly weapon, she was a deadly
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weapon as as as well. Yeah, the prosecution had a brown taper bag,
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you know, sitting on the desk throughout the whole trial and never had
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produce a shoe into evidence and the whole trial. And uh, like I
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said, the doctor said that he didn't look like he couldn't find a chip
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hit for anything. Ah. And so you know she was never in the
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deuce. They had a shoe, but that shoe was never deuced because there
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was no injuries in anything in the case that you've been hit for anything.
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Okay, So we have a question right now. Was you guys legally married
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or no? No, we weren't legally married. We had three children together.
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We were living together. She and I had children, were the only
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ones on apartulations. Okay. And also let me you said you was giving
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us a rundown of your your charges. Yeah, and from what I was
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reading all your charges. When the when the verdict came back in what you
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know what what a minute, Let's let me go back, let me go
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back. Okay, I want to go to the because we had talked and
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something had came out about the for forensic scientists that got on the that testified
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against you, against you. She's making headlines over here in Denver because she
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fabricated some of her her finding in some of these cases. Her name is
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Yvonne Woods, if you guys want to look it up, her name is
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Yvonne Woods. She fabricated some of her findings on some of these trials,
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so they having other states come in and go over her her files. So
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a lot of people that she got on could be coming home because of what
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she did. What she did, Yes, well, you know, initially
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I didn't. I didn't think anything of it. You know, she did
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justify at my trial. But it was in trial that I found out that
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it was possible that other DNA was involved. Also. Now I don't mean
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infer any way. You know that I didn't have sex with Nicole. I
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did it, you know, Uh, but I had uh. After the
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fight ended. You know, I had laid across the fut of the bed
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and actually, you know, I had been drinking something myself, so I
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went to sleep rather you know, rather quickly, you know, laid across
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the front of the bed and I was awakened by her put in my hand,
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you know, pulling me to her, and I was still dressed at
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the time, you know, and I got up and I got undressed,
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you know what I mean, and we had sex. So that was something
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that I never denied from the very beginning. But in trial that was testimony,
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you know, after Missy Woods belong Woods justified that my DNA was the
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only DNA that was you know, found you know, doing her testing.
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Well, the lady of the house you know, had testified on trial and
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trial herself that she had came into the living room in the middle of the
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night, you know, going to and that she had observed and you know
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what I mean, this guy, you know, performing oral sex on her.
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So you know, it didn't make me question, you know, the
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integrity of uh Missy Woods uh testing, you know, in my case because
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when she's when she testified my DNA was the only man that was her but
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absolutely and actionality, it was another person DNA there as well. Yes,
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wow, And they didn't they didn't test that. No. No, So
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so the the baby being drug with the night coil and passing away, she
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wasn't, uh, the mom wasn't charged or anything with that. The baby
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life really didn't mean anything. I don't mean no offense. I was just
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you know, I'm just trying to process this, you know it. This
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is kind of crazy to me that a child's life over a broken nose.
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You know, it's just like whoo. And then the DNA the DNA it
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was two DNA's, but yours and someone else. But Yvonne got up there
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and said that it wasn't nobody else's, but it was yours. And I
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mean, this is just this is just crazy. I have two questions.
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Uh, did CPS get involved? Uh? My children got taken and adopted
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out? You know she got out of jail when she Uh, when the
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trial was over, she had stopped going to see the children. Uh.
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She's basically abandoned the children, you know, and and went on with her
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life. So our children got adopted out. Uh. She passed away seven
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years after that was inconsprated. Soul rest in peace. You know. So
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this is not about me. You know, I don't wish to disparacure anyway.
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You know, she has the mother my children right and regard that,
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you know the way the situation has turned out. You know, I'm a
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fairm believer that for whatever reason, we end up what we are in life.
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Uh, some things you can go over, and some things you can
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go around, some things you can go under, but some things you gotta
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go right straight down the middle of them. So I am where I am
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for a reason. I just don't see this the reason. You know,
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Yeah, that you know that, you know, for the for the reasons,
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and that they say that, I mean, okay, so we gotta
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we have another question. How did they explain the kidnapping if you all lived
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together and if you were going home? Oh, you know, it was
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just from the fact that you know the other lady. The lady testified that
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in appearance, as though I was dragging her when she tripped, she didn't
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see a trip on the corner the bed. By the time she came back
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from around the corner, she had already tripped you on the corner of the
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futon bed and fell into my chest. And so, like I said,
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it was just about a fourth foot by four foot four year area right there
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were stepped inside the door. So the only place for me to go when
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she felt them to me with the ones who fell backwards, and that put
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us in the hallway. And that's where my my secondary kidnaping came from Wow.
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So let me just read some of these your charge. Well, the
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jury verdict, and it's we're going to go with I probably got I got
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my papers all over the place, and it says, if you find a
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defendant defendant not guilty of sexual assault, you should disguard this instructions. However,
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you find a defendant guilty of sexual assault, then you should then answer
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the following question. I don't want to say her name out of respect to
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her. So did she suffer serious bodily injury result in the from the commission
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of the sexual assault? The jury said no, Uh, well you have
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the jury said no. But the court used by the injury anyway to enhance
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my pens That's how I get years for that charge. Uh. They followed
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the crime about a senson Assi, you know, on for mandatory sentence,
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and so instead of you know, when the jury said no to that,
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they had to agree unanimously that there was no history and so when and so
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when they said no, that case of itself, you know, should have
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been should have been dismissed because I think I since you're form a jury a
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verdict, yes, that's what I'm looking at right now, and oh,
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it's kind of blurry because of my background, and it has the it says
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no, and it has the jury for a person name written on it.
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So that one was for the they found you not guilty for the sexual assault.
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So now let's go to this one, and it says this one said,
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if you find the defendant not guilty a second degree kidnapping, you should
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disregard this instruction. If, however, even guilty a second degree kidnapping,
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then the following question. Then they answered. The following question, was the
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kidnapping accomplished by using a deadly weapon? And the jury said no, but
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they had half that sent us all sold by using serious body injury and deadly
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weapon. They had half that suys. She gave me ninety six years for
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that Centate's awesome, and that was illegal. So they gave the statue saying
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that they have to prove, you know, if they're trying to prove extraordinary
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aggravated circumstances, they have to prove those by the same standard applicable tool the
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elements of the sustatic crime. It felt, so they have to prove those
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beyond a reasonal with doubt. When the jury said no, that they fail
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approved beyond the original without jury instruction number four. The judge had instructed them,
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but they must find me not guilty of that coupl But they they went
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ahead and found me guilty of the count and gave me the nine years for
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it. But the jury said no, So how can they still find guilty
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of something that that? The jerry said no, yeah, okay, it
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took me twenty two years. It took me twenty two years to find that
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I had it all along all these years. Okay, twenty two years to
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find me. So this is the last one. So they don't find you
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not guilty on two charges? Yes, So now is this one one?
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If you find a defended not guilty of second degree kidnapping, you should disregard
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this instruction. If, however, you find a defending guilty of second degree
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kidnapping, then answer the following question. Okay, you have one left.
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Yeah, Also, was the victim of sexually sought as they find as seven
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and instruction seventeen, And they answered, yes, go ahead and call me
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back because I need we need to get this, need to get this.
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I need to understand how you get two no's in one yes? And then
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they come up with one hundred and ninety two years plus put an a life
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on there. You already they already sentenced you to life when they gave you
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one hundred to ninety two years. Kind of trouble in twenty two years,
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you know, they went back twenty two years and got oldcas as well as
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a younger man. Think about a vitual criminal on me, you know also,
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and so they gave me Wow, wow, this this is this is
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unbelievable, this is so this is so unbelievable. I lost his word.
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You to sit on these juries, and then we sit on the jury and
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you come back with a verdict, and they still disregard what the jury say.
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I'm looking at it right here. You know. They they telling you
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the jury he said no on two charges, and then you add enhancements and
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give him two years for this charge that the jury said no, and then
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you give him another charge a ninety on another charge, you give him ninety
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two years. I mean, I don't get it. I really don't get
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it. I really m m mm hmm. I don't understand. The last
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one was yes. The last the last charge they answered, they did say
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yes on it for the second degree kidnapped a thing, you know, that
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was a information. Like I said, they probably guilty of kidnapping because of
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what the lady testified too, when she fell into my chest and I stepped
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backwards out the door. Kidnapping, you know, as if you seize and
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carry a move anybody. You know, however, was slightly from one place
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to another. So when she testified to that that's the way that I was
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founding kidnapping. They are tempted to a half my sentence, you know,
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look by aggravating circumstances by asking them where. So when the juror said no,
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that sentence could not be aggravated at all. You know, they even
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went further, you know, in the amended count for when they they applied
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serious body and injury and deavy weapons to all of my charges, and they
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joined them all conjunctively to say that these elements that I was found guilty of,
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these aggravating circumstances and all of these counts, which that's not so you
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know, the juror said no, so if that crime of file citizen has
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and could not stand, and they apply that every charge, so my sentence,
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you know, is illegal. Of some of the things they changed some
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of the elements of the crimes by conjunctive, by added and without any comments
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or anything, as though they were actual elements of their crime. Is constructed
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by the Colorado State Legislature. But it wasn't true. You know, when
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they amended to kill ardget they changed the elemental structure of the charges. And
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when they did that and then failed to prove those elements, then those charges
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been dismissing. H Well, people, we gotta get out there and vote
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when we when you go vote tomorrow for these judges, whoever you voting for,
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do your research. Just don't go down the line and check off the
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box because you you just there just to vote. Don't do that. Don't
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don't do that. Do your research. Or who you putting on the bench,
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on these the benches, who especially who you're gonna put up, who
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we're gonna put in the White House. We gotta do for a lot of
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praying people. We have our grandchildren that's coming up. We have nephews,
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uncles, brothers, sons. We gotta be their voice. We got to
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speak up for them. This can happen to anybody, anybody. Glenn,
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I would like to thank you for sharing some of your story with us,
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and I'm looking forward to talking to you again. I believe it'll be March
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eighteenth where we'll have a family member. I believe your nephew will be in
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studio and we'll be talking to him as well. I appreciate you, I
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thank you, and we're gonna be praying for you that feel for giving me
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an opportunity to tell the story. Oftentimes we don't get a chance to tell
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our stories to the public, so I really appreciate you giving me this opportunity.
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You You're welcome. You guys did the work. So you know I'll
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use my voice to speak for you if that's my ministry of God. Is
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you want me to use my voice to speak on behind the men and women
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that are wrongfully incarcerated, over sentenced or you know. So I'm gonna be
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my voice. I'm gonna use my voice to speak for you. And I
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would like to thank each and every one of you guys for tuning in tonight
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and talking with me. Just remember when you go out there to vote,
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vote right and think of our grandkids. Are a great grandkid office we got
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to protect them if nobody else. I love you, guys, Stay blessed,
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enjoy the rest of your week. You can catch me here on the
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first and third Monday of each month at eight eight pm Eastern Standard time at
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five pm Pacific Standard time. Thank you, thank you, thank you,
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thank you. I love you, and remember remember this. Use your voice,
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speak up even if it's shaky. Have a good good night, and
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be blessed. Let's talk about it. What's your hope? Shenet Johnson join
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It's ride him, It's that one, and let's talk about it. Soil you