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- 0:02Speaker 1: A lot of fundamental principles of bledo tion, self interesting
- 0:09Speaker 1: and individual once this is the show, all right, everybody
- 0:20Speaker 1: welcome tore One book show. On this Monday, June fifteenth,
- 0:26Speaker 1: the day after President Trump's birthday, and of course President
- 0:32Speaker 1: Trump on his birthday got to electronically sign the Memorandum
- 0:39Speaker 1: of Understanding, which is going to lead to the greatest
- 0:41Speaker 1: deal in all of human history, is going to bring
- 0:44Speaker 1: peace to the Middle East after three thousand years of warfare.
- 0:48Speaker 1: Finally we were a peace to the Middle East. And
- 0:51Speaker 1: it was very, very important to Trump to sign this
- 0:55Speaker 1: thing on his birthday yesterday. He was kind of flipping
- 1:02Speaker 1: out when it looked like it might not get signed
- 1:06Speaker 1: the official signing ceremony, because you know, the Iranian barbarians,
- 1:12Speaker 1: the murdering, the murderous dictators of Iran deserve a formal,
- 1:20Speaker 1: you know, a formal ceremony with their American counterparts. They'll
- 1:25Speaker 1: get to shake hands, they'll get to be buddy buddy,
- 1:29Speaker 1: They'll get to be legitimized in the eyes of the
- 1:32Speaker 1: entire world. Will happen on Friday, I mean just having
- 1:36Speaker 1: the ceremony, a formal signing ceremony, which I think Trump
- 1:41Speaker 1: is going to participate in because he's in Europe this
- 1:43Speaker 1: week has to rank as one of the most disgusting phenomenas.
- 1:48Speaker 1: These are the people with the blood of forty thousand
- 1:51Speaker 1: of their own people in their hands. These are the
- 1:52Speaker 1: people who've been lying to the Americans and to the
- 1:57Speaker 1: world about their nuclear program for decades. These are the
- 2:00Speaker 1: people that have been funding terrorism, the number one funder
- 2:04Speaker 1: of terrorism for the last forty seven years. And these
- 2:08Speaker 1: are the people that are going to have a nice
- 2:10Speaker 1: handshake and a pattern the back and a congratulations and
- 2:13Speaker 1: are raising a glass of champagne with the Americans. I mean,
- 2:18Speaker 1: it just it takes what is an awful memory of
- 2:22Speaker 1: understanding and I guess deal and makes it so much
- 2:29Speaker 1: worse and so much more disgusting. And it really is
- 2:32Speaker 1: a symbol. It's a symbol of the complete capitulation and
- 2:38Speaker 1: surrender of the Americans and the elevation sanction of the Iranians.
- 2:48Speaker 1: I just can't wait for those TV images to come out.
- 2:51Speaker 1: I mean, it reminds me of Donald Trump hugging and
- 2:54Speaker 1: you know, and playing best friends with the brutal dictator
- 2:59Speaker 1: of North Korea who also has the blood of thousands,
- 3:02Speaker 1: if not hundreds of thousands of his own people understands,
- 3:06Speaker 1: and yet Donald Trump treated him as that he's equal
- 3:08Speaker 1: and was friendly. This is how you can tell, I mean,
- 3:12Speaker 1: from his first term, how just unbelievably disgusting this man is.
- 3:18Speaker 1: And his farm policy is completely bankrupt. So anyway, there
- 3:24Speaker 1: is a deal, we don't know the details. So they
- 3:27Speaker 1: signed it yesterday. A bunch of administration officials are going
- 3:31Speaker 1: on TV talking about it. But on the American side,
- 3:36Speaker 1: nobody's actually nobody's actually published the text. It's, to put
- 3:43Speaker 1: it mildly, a little strange, a little bit weldering. If
- 3:49Speaker 1: this is such a great deal, if this is the
- 3:52Speaker 1: deal of the century, and it's so much in America
- 3:54Speaker 1: self interest, why isn't the text public? Why didn't they
- 3:59Speaker 1: make you have of it and putting it out there
- 4:02Speaker 1: so we can all see what our brilliant negotiate is
- 4:05Speaker 1: actually achieved.
- 4:09Speaker 2: It's no way to be seen, so we speculate.
- 4:12Speaker 1: And the Iranians are publishing all kinds of stuff, but
- 4:15Speaker 1: it's hard to tell whether the Ranians are publishing the
- 4:18Speaker 1: right stuff. If it was a docu sign, if there's
- 4:22Speaker 1: a signed electronically, it was saved in a PDF just
- 4:27Speaker 1: you know, a secure pdf. Just send us the secure pdf,
- 4:30Speaker 1: put it up there, send it.
- 4:31Speaker 2: To the media.
- 4:38Speaker 1: But no, so we don't We don't have all the details,
- 4:41Speaker 1: granted that, but we know from the interviews of people
- 4:45Speaker 1: like ged Evans and others, the framework, the basic framework
- 4:48Speaker 1: or though again they seem to present it with the
- 4:52Speaker 1: spin that the Iranians don't accept and we don't have
- 4:55Speaker 1: a deal, so we don't know. We actually don't know.
- 4:58Speaker 2: Have you noticed. I think a lot of people have
- 5:01Speaker 2: noticed this.
- 5:01Speaker 1: But if you noticed that our foreign our, you know,
- 5:07Speaker 1: Secretary of State responsible for foreign affairs, for dealing with
- 5:13Speaker 1: foreign countries like you are, is a wall. I didn't
- 5:19Speaker 1: see him all weekend. I haven't seen him on the
- 5:21Speaker 1: talk shows today explaining this deal to the American people.
- 5:25Speaker 1: He's disappeared, he's gone. I mean jd. Vance is basically
- 5:30Speaker 1: Secretary of State right now. He's the one going out
- 5:32Speaker 1: there and doing all the work. Interesting and and if
- 5:40Speaker 1: you know, if if Marco Rubio had real balls, if
- 5:48Speaker 1: Marco Rubio U was a was a was a was
- 5:52Speaker 1: a was a real man, he'd quit. He'd quit. He won't,
- 5:59Speaker 1: I mean, no way that happening. But he could quit
- 6:03Speaker 1: and say this is a disastrous deal for the United States,
- 6:06Speaker 1: which it is. We'll gets into that. I wasn't involved
- 6:09Speaker 1: in negotiations. Jd.
- 6:11Speaker 2: Vance was, and I can't. I can't.
- 6:16Speaker 1: I can't stay Secretary of State with this deal in
- 6:20Speaker 1: place and have any kind of integrity. Remember all the
- 6:24Speaker 1: things that he said during this war. Anyway, let's get
- 6:28Speaker 1: into the deal. So what what what does the deal say?
- 6:33Speaker 1: As far as we can sell right, immediate multi fund
- 6:37Speaker 1: cease fire. Importantly and crucially, this includes Lebanon, even though
- 6:43Speaker 1: Israel has objected, but it includes Lebanon. It involves the
- 6:50Speaker 1: lifting of the US naval blockade on Uranian ports in
- 6:56Speaker 1: exchange for you on opening the straits of Homo's. More recently,
- 7:01Speaker 1: it looked like the US was opening first and the
- 7:05Speaker 1: streets of Foremost would have to go through a period
- 7:07Speaker 1: of clearing the minds. And Iran is not going to
- 7:13Speaker 1: open the streets of Hoemos until Friday, until after the
- 7:15Speaker 1: official ceremony. So a little ambiguity which has been consistent
- 7:20Speaker 1: for months now about what opening the streets of Almost
- 7:23Speaker 1: means to the Iranians. Iran is demanding initial payment of
- 7:27Speaker 1: twelve billion dollars before the streets is open, and it
- 7:32Speaker 1: seems like Trump is going to agree to that. And
- 7:37Speaker 1: again we don't know the details of that because Trump
- 7:40Speaker 1: administration is not publicized the memorandum. Trump claims the opening
- 7:50Speaker 1: will be told free, but Iranian officials are previously indicated
- 7:54Speaker 1: they still will impose fees.
- 7:57Speaker 2: They won't be told they'll be fees.
- 8:01Speaker 1: And they obtained regulatory control with the maybe with the
- 8:05Speaker 1: omanis maybe just Iran, and this is a major goal
- 8:10Speaker 1: of the Iran And it seems like the Americans have.
- 8:15Speaker 2: Assented.
- 8:17Speaker 1: States of Homoes are now officially controlled by the Iranians.
- 8:22Speaker 2: This seems to be.
- 8:25Speaker 1: There, seems to be something that the United States has
- 8:27Speaker 1: assented to, has agreed to, something that didn't exist before.
- 8:36Speaker 1: The DASSO stipulates that within sixty days of the scheduled
- 8:40Speaker 1: June nineteenth signing in Geneva, the two nations will begin
- 8:44Speaker 1: follow on talks begin addressing the termination of all US sanctions,
- 8:51Speaker 1: the nuclear issue, and Iran's reconstruction economic reconstruction. When asked
- 8:57Speaker 1: today about three hundred three hundred billion dollar fund to
- 9:03Speaker 1: help Iran rebuild, jd Vance did not deny it. Basically
- 9:09Speaker 1: said yeah, if they fulfill their requirements in terms of
- 9:13Speaker 1: the nuclear issue. And there's a deal, and yeah, we
- 9:16Speaker 1: could imagine a reconstruction fund. Three hundred billion dollars. Reconstruction
- 9:30Speaker 1: hard to believe. So we're going to give the bloodthirsty, criminal, evil,
- 9:38Speaker 1: you know, a genocidal regime.
- 9:41Speaker 2: In Tehran.
- 9:44Speaker 1: Three hundred billion dollars in exchange, they you know the problem,
- 9:49Speaker 1: they'll verifiably dismantle the nuclear program. It's not even clear
- 9:55Speaker 1: what that actually means. The Iranians are claiming they're never
- 9:58Speaker 1: going to agree to that. They'll only agree to downgrading
- 10:02Speaker 1: all the refined uranium to lower grades. But as soon
- 10:08Speaker 1: as they're not giving up on centrifuges, they're not giving
- 10:11Speaker 1: up on any of that. So that's yet to be negotiated.
- 10:14Speaker 1: The US is saying no, no, centrifuge is no use programmed.
- 10:17Speaker 1: But even there there's some ambiguity. And again the US
- 10:20Speaker 1: seems desperate for a deal. My guess is that before
- 10:23Speaker 1: the war started, if the US had offered the Uranians
- 10:26Speaker 1: three hundred billion dollars to have a nuclear deal, the
- 10:28Speaker 1: Ranians would have signed, would have signed.
- 10:32Speaker 2: Why was the war? Why would we engage in a war?
- 10:35Speaker 2: Keep that at the back of your mind. That is
- 10:37Speaker 2: the key question. Why was this war even necessary?
- 10:40Speaker 1: Clearly, the United States is coming out of this war
- 10:43Speaker 1: in a worse situation than they were going into the war.
- 10:47Speaker 1: You on, And I can't believe I'm saying this because
- 10:52Speaker 1: from a military perspective this is so unsided. But from
- 10:57Speaker 1: a war perspective, on the total package perspective, Iran won
- 11:01Speaker 1: this unequivocally, no question about it. Don't believe anybody who
- 11:06Speaker 1: says out there otherwise, It's just not true. Iwon won this.
- 11:10Speaker 2: It's getting more and giving.
- 11:13Speaker 1: Up less than it would have had to do if
- 11:17Speaker 1: it's signed a deal before the war. The fame work
- 11:23Speaker 1: appears to divert significantly from earlier US positions. Remember, Trump
- 11:29Speaker 1: once insisted on the destruction of all Uranian nuclear facilities
- 11:32Speaker 1: and zero uranium enrichment. He told the New York Times
- 11:38Speaker 1: that Iran would now be permitted low level in richment,
- 11:45Speaker 1: that is zero and enrichment is not the position going
- 11:49Speaker 1: into the sixty to the negotiation. So already, as with
- 11:53Speaker 1: all the negotiations Trump always goes into He is the
- 11:55Speaker 1: worst deal maker I've ever seen in my life. I
- 11:59Speaker 1: mean literally, I can't think of a worse deal maker
- 12:03Speaker 1: I've ever encountered or read about, or seen in my
- 12:06Speaker 1: entire life than Donald Trump. He goes into the deal
- 12:09Speaker 1: already giving up everything. He did this with Russia and Ukraine,
- 12:13Speaker 1: and he's doing it with you on instead of going
- 12:16Speaker 1: in and saying zero and Richmond dismantled the entire nuclear program.
- 12:20Speaker 1: And then I guess maybe compromising, He's going in saying, eh,
- 12:22Speaker 1: I'm not gonna insist on that. She's already publicly stating
- 12:29Speaker 1: that they will allow centrifuges, and they will allow minimum
- 12:34Speaker 1: minimum enrichment if you can. If you have low level
- 12:37Speaker 1: in Richmond, you can have high level in Richmond once
- 12:41Speaker 1: you have the centrifuges. Nothing to stop you from enriching
- 12:44Speaker 1: to higher levels. Nothing. Now that's zero, and we know,
- 12:48Speaker 1: we know this is exactly a pattern. That is exactly
- 12:51Speaker 1: what he ran. Does they cheat? The IGC affiliated does
- 12:57Speaker 1: ME news agency, for its part, framed the deal as
- 13:00Speaker 1: tactical pause in the war rather.
- 13:02Speaker 2: Than a final settlement.
- 13:05Speaker 1: It warned that many more concessions would be needed of
- 13:08Speaker 1: the United States for any future agreement, and that Iran's
- 13:12Speaker 1: experience with the US bad faith makes one unlikely. I mean,
- 13:17Speaker 1: I can only hope that somehow it all falls apart,
- 13:21Speaker 1: but I mean hoping that for weeks not hasn't happened Trump.
- 13:24Speaker 1: There's no depths to which Trump is not willing to
- 13:28Speaker 1: go in order to grovel before evil. It is just none.
- 13:35Speaker 1: He did it with Prutin, he did it with the
- 13:37Speaker 1: brutal dictator of North Korea, he did it with Shi
- 13:42Speaker 1: and now he's doing.
- 13:44Speaker 2: Himself by doing it.
- 13:48Speaker 1: With the Iranians. I just wonder, just wonder what some
- 13:54Speaker 1: of the objectives fans of Donald Trump right now of
- 14:01Speaker 1: this deal. I'm curious. I'm curious. I mean, Tehran's giving
- 14:11Speaker 1: almost nothing right against you know, the US is demanding
- 14:17Speaker 1: a twenty year Richmond band, which is meaningless because I
- 14:22Speaker 1: mean Richard to what level? They say only a five
- 14:25Speaker 1: year pause? Why twenty years?
- 14:29Speaker 2: Why not eternal?
- 14:33Speaker 1: The Nians are maneving to get their foes and assets
- 14:36Speaker 1: early in the process, which will take away some of
- 14:41Speaker 1: the US's leverage. Trump has said that if the negotiations fairly,
- 14:49Speaker 1: will go back to war, but nobody believes that. He
- 14:52Speaker 1: said that so many times and under delivered on every
- 14:56Speaker 1: single one of them that nobody takes them seriously. Nobody
- 15:00Speaker 1: believes his threats. I mean, why would anybody? He said
- 15:06Speaker 1: it over and over again. For the last sixty eight days.
- 15:12Speaker 1: Iran gets its ports un blocked, sanctions relief, the facto
- 15:16Speaker 1: recognition of its sovereignty.
- 15:17Speaker 2: Over the States of Homoes in exchange for.
- 15:22Speaker 1: Complying with the cease fire which was supposed to open
- 15:25Speaker 1: the States of Homos. So he's finally maybe complying with
- 15:28Speaker 1: the cease fire and now sixty eight days ago ceasing
- 15:34Speaker 1: random acts of violence. Believe that when I see it,
- 15:38Speaker 1: and then there'll be negotiations over the nuclear which the
- 15:41Speaker 1: United States has already moved away from its position from
- 15:44Speaker 1: just a few days ago. In other words, this is
- 15:51Speaker 1: total surrender. This is total surrender. The US literally has
- 15:56Speaker 1: received nothing it didn't have before. Remember before the war,
- 16:02Speaker 1: states have almost opened. Before the war, other than enrich
- 16:06Speaker 1: uranium was buried under rubble still is before the war,
- 16:12Speaker 1: there were no hostilities. So what did the US gained from?
- 16:17Speaker 1: This was achieved. And of course you know this place
- 16:29Speaker 1: is Israel. In an impossible situation. Nitaniello and the Israeli
- 16:36Speaker 1: governors hitched itself to the Trump administration. Trump is driving
- 16:41Speaker 1: off a cliff and Nicenio in Israel is gonna drop
- 16:45Speaker 1: from that cliff with the Trump administration. I mean even
- 16:50Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, the assumption was that Trump would
- 16:53Speaker 1: be would help Nitaeniello in his political career, and that
- 16:59Speaker 1: Trump was to receive the Israel Prize and He's going
- 17:03Speaker 1: to come to Israel before the election and do a
- 17:07Speaker 1: victory lap around Gaza and you on and endorse BB.
- 17:13Speaker 2: And now BB goes into the election.
- 17:16Speaker 1: With his main partner having surrendered completely and Israel in
- 17:21Speaker 1: this kind of limbo of nobody knowing where and what
- 17:24Speaker 1: did you do?
- 17:30Speaker 2: Uh, we will see, you know, he has said already.
- 17:37Speaker 1: On the one hand, you know, Israel needs to needs
- 17:41Speaker 1: to push back against the Americans, but it can't push
- 17:44Speaker 1: back so much that the ties get disconnected.
- 17:48Speaker 2: How much can he actually push back?
- 17:50Speaker 1: If Trump demands unequivocally demands that the United that Israel
- 17:56Speaker 1: retreat leave Lebanon completely one hundred percent, And the risk
- 18:03Speaker 1: is that if they don't do that, Trump stops all
- 18:07Speaker 1: weapons sales to Israel.
- 18:10Speaker 2: What choice would Israel have?
- 18:15Speaker 1: BB in the past has found ways to go around presidents,
- 18:19Speaker 1: go to Congress, go.
- 18:20Speaker 2: To others, but there's nobody here to talk to it.
- 18:22Speaker 1: Congress Democrats have become over the last few years massively
- 18:28Speaker 1: anti Israel, and the right is not going to stand
- 18:38Speaker 1: up against Trump. And if the Democrats win the House
- 18:45Speaker 1: and maybe the Senate, all bets are off. All bets
- 18:50Speaker 1: are off. So yeah, it's unclear what's going to happen
- 18:59Speaker 1: in eleven. Supposedly, the m AU means ceasefire and all fronts,
- 19:05Speaker 1: including Lebanon, but ceasefires in the past have only, according
- 19:11Speaker 1: to Trump's mind, only applied to the good guys. Right.
- 19:15Speaker 1: Ion could bomb the UAE, that was okay. Ion could
- 19:19Speaker 1: bomb ships in the streets of homos, and according to Trump,
- 19:22Speaker 1: that was okay. Nobody really got hurt, so that's okay.
- 19:26Speaker 1: Chrismallah could send missiles into Israel, drones into Israel, which
- 19:31Speaker 1: was a clear breach of the ceasefire. Israel was not
- 19:34Speaker 1: allowed to respond. I mean, there was a huge crisis
- 19:36Speaker 1: this weekend. Chrisma sent missiles into Israel, clear violation of
- 19:40Speaker 1: the agreement. Is your bomb Beirut, which was a red
- 19:45Speaker 1: line that the Iranians drew. Trump woke up Sunday morning,
- 19:50Speaker 1: his birthday morning, and freaked out. Lasted completely by all reports,
- 19:57Speaker 1: this was gonna stop the signing thing, and Iran was
- 20:01Speaker 1: going to retaliate and now, and he called up Iran
- 20:04Speaker 1: and he basically had the Qataris go to Iran and
- 20:07Speaker 1: basically give the Iranians everything they wanted to make sure
- 20:11Speaker 1: there was a deal that day and.
- 20:12Speaker 2: They would not fire in Israel.
- 20:17Speaker 1: So what happens with isabel A fire as a rocket
- 20:20Speaker 1: as they did this morning into Israel? And according to
- 20:24Speaker 1: the tit for tat tit for tat kind of theory,
- 20:27Speaker 1: is supposed to bomba roots Again, Well it won't because
- 20:32Speaker 1: Trump has said no, and there's a cease fire. But
- 20:35Speaker 1: what happens when Chrismola continues to break the sea's fire?
- 20:37Speaker 1: And by the way, you know, Israel you know, regularly
- 20:45Speaker 1: knocks down Isabela's missile, so nobody gets hurt, which is good, right, No,
- 20:50Speaker 1: it's not good. According to Trump, if nobody got hurt,
- 20:53Speaker 1: you don't have a right to retaliate.
- 21:03Speaker 2: So you know, we will see.
- 21:09Speaker 1: Is his Malagan attack and break the cease fire. Will
- 21:15Speaker 1: it do so with Iran's knowledge? Will it.
- 21:20Speaker 2: Undermine Iran?
- 21:21Speaker 1: I don't know. Can Israel respond if it happens? Can
- 21:28Speaker 1: Israel bomb babyoot if his attacks Israel. If Israel does strike,
- 21:35Speaker 1: what happens when Trump turns on it?
- 21:41Speaker 2: Iran might do it? Mighty courage as well.
- 21:43Speaker 1: Let to do it, just to test the waters and
- 21:45Speaker 1: see what's going on. I mean, clearly it's already tested
- 21:48Speaker 1: the waters. And see how weak Trump is and how
- 21:51Speaker 1: willing he is to abandon his ally. You know, there
- 21:55Speaker 1: was a there's a Kissinger quote from back in the day.
- 22:00Speaker 1: Kittens just said once it may be dangerous to be
- 22:03Speaker 1: America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal. Trump
- 22:12Speaker 1: has made that very real, very real right now for
- 22:17Speaker 1: Israel and Israel. And this is the tragedy. And this
- 22:19Speaker 1: is where if you look short term, medium turn out,
- 22:24Speaker 1: Israel has no friends anymore. Europe has turned its back
- 22:28Speaker 1: on Israel completely. And in America, the Democratic Party has
- 22:32Speaker 1: turned to anti Israel, and a significant portion of the
- 22:34Speaker 1: Republican Party has turned to anti Israel. And the portion
- 22:39Speaker 1: that's pro Israel is no longer has no power, has
- 22:45Speaker 1: no power. So you know, I don't know, I don't
- 23:00Speaker 1: know what happens here. I don't know how this progresses,
- 23:04Speaker 1: but nothing good is going to happen. Elections in Israel
- 23:13Speaker 1: will be a mass. But even more importantly, I don't
- 23:17Speaker 1: think America. I don't think America recovers ever from this.
- 23:23Speaker 1: This is the biggest geopolitical mistake catastrophe for Americans since
- 23:34Speaker 1: the Vietnam War. I mean, this is much bigger than
- 23:38Speaker 1: Biden's retreat out of out of Afghanistan. Even though even
- 23:45Speaker 1: though you won't have the visuals quite the visuals of
- 23:49Speaker 1: the American helicopters taking off of Saigon, or the or
- 23:52Speaker 1: the or the airplanes taking off from you know, Conda,
- 23:58Speaker 1: but it's it's worse, it's much was, much more. I mean,
- 24:03Speaker 1: the United States credibility is gone. Iran comes out stronger,
- 24:09Speaker 1: comes out, the one that stood the pressure comes out,
- 24:12Speaker 1: the one that's more reliable. The Gulf States are pivoting
- 24:16Speaker 1: towards Iran as we speak. I mean, Trump can go,
- 24:24Speaker 1: you know, so you know what does that mean? It's anyhow,
- 24:30Speaker 1: by the way, is out there saying with an agreement,
- 24:32Speaker 1: without agreement, Iran will not have nuclear weapons, not today,
- 24:35Speaker 1: not tomorrow. As long as I am Prime Minister visual,
- 24:38Speaker 1: it will not happen. He might not be Prime Minister
- 24:40Speaker 1: visual for very long. So he also says that Israel
- 24:52Speaker 1: will remain in its security zones in Gaza, in Lebanon,
- 24:56Speaker 1: and in Syria for as long as necessary to protect
- 24:59Speaker 1: our country.
- 25:01Speaker 2: You know what happens if Trump demands.
- 25:11Speaker 1: You know we are, we are. I'm going to see so, yeah,
- 25:17Speaker 1: I you know, this war was a disaster. All my
- 25:22Speaker 1: early all my early optimism was for not.
- 25:29Speaker 2: TDS. You really think this is TDS?
- 25:32Speaker 1: Right?
- 25:33Speaker 2: Are you reading the news?
- 25:34Speaker 1: Are you reading what.
- 25:35Speaker 2: Trump has just done?
- 25:37Speaker 1: And I have TDS. I gave Trump the benefit of
- 25:41Speaker 1: the doubt during the war. I thought the war was, yeah,
- 25:44Speaker 1: we're gonna do something important here and we're gonna win,
- 25:47Speaker 1: and it was gonna be regime change. I was positive
- 25:49Speaker 1: about the outcome. And now it's turned into one's worst
- 25:55Speaker 1: nightmare and you can pretend it isn't and I have
- 25:59Speaker 1: t yes me. It's just bizarre to me how people
- 26:08Speaker 1: can't think edward. So if that's insulting, but that is
- 26:13Speaker 1: the reality, can't think independently because it doesn't take me
- 26:19Speaker 1: explaining this deal to you to see how just goddamn
- 26:24Speaker 1: awful it is. So I think Trump says he probably
- 26:35Speaker 1: won't be signing it. He might might be, might not be,
- 26:41Speaker 1: but JD Vance will definitely be there because this is
- 26:43Speaker 1: JD's deal, right, This is clearly JD Vance's deal. Anyway,
- 27:00Speaker 1: I couldn't even imagine this being as bad as it is.
- 27:03Speaker 1: I really couldn't. And you thought the Obama deal was
- 27:09Speaker 1: bad and what Obama, all the money Obama gave the.
- 27:14Speaker 2: Iranians was bad.
- 27:18Speaker 1: This is so much worse. This is so much worse,
- 27:24Speaker 1: by the way it turns out, about a month ago,
- 27:29Speaker 1: the US secretly approved of financial and maritime arrangement between
- 27:33Speaker 1: kat and Iran under which billions of dollars were paid
- 27:36Speaker 1: to Tehran in exchange for fee passage of Katari tankers
- 27:40Speaker 1: and ships through the straits of Homos. The secret US approval,
- 27:45Speaker 1: which as Sosa said, was granted about a month ago. Dovetail, though,
- 27:49Speaker 1: has interest in opening a direct channel of communication with Tehran,
- 27:52Speaker 1: which they've had forever, which began.
- 27:54Speaker 2: To tighten after the ceasefire caught out.
- 27:57Speaker 1: Fearing a renewed Iranian attack on its facility after one
- 28:00Speaker 1: of its gas installations were attacked during the war, sought
- 28:04Speaker 1: to buy security on the quiet. Some of the payments
- 28:08Speaker 1: were disguised. This fees for tankers passing through Homos and
- 28:11Speaker 1: a broad credit line of up to one billion dollars
- 28:14Speaker 1: was also opened for their purchase of goods through Kata
- 28:18Speaker 1: and Trump knew about this and he let it happen.
- 28:21Speaker 1: Kata is best friends, best friends, so he let it happen.
- 28:30Speaker 1: Here's a statement, and I think is absolutely true. Seniors,
- 28:33Speaker 1: really official said quote. If we had known the war
- 28:37Speaker 1: would end this way in terms of the political outcome,
- 28:40Speaker 1: it is not certain it would have been worth going
- 28:42Speaker 1: to it. Oh, it would have not been worth going
- 28:46Speaker 1: to it. Whatever was achieved is being undone because this deal.
- 28:53Speaker 1: I have to tell you, the deal as it appears
- 28:55Speaker 1: right now is worse than what I thought it was
- 28:57Speaker 1: going to be a week ago. The three hundred billion
- 29:00Speaker 1: has entered the equation, for example. So in spite of everything,
- 29:10Speaker 1: in spite of everything that Israel achieved, in killing the
- 29:17Speaker 1: Supreme leader, in taking out a whole level of IRGC leadership,
- 29:22Speaker 1: in you know, destroying parts of the reading and industry,
- 29:29Speaker 1: it's not worth it giving all this. I mean, they're
- 29:31Speaker 1: going to get the money to rebuild everything. Remember, remember,
- 29:35Speaker 1: and and you know it's not that hard to find
- 29:38Speaker 1: the quotes, but that early on in the deal, when
- 29:43Speaker 1: people were asking what is what are the war aims?
- 29:51Speaker 2: What are America's war aims? The United States?
- 30:02Speaker 1: You know, the United States, I mean, Trump basically went
- 30:04Speaker 1: out and said he said, on a number of different occasions,
- 30:07Speaker 1: he said, we aim to dismantle basically Iranians capability to
- 30:14Speaker 1: build ballistic missiles. We aim to get the Ranians to
- 30:18Speaker 1: stop funding it's proxies like Chrisbella and the Hooties, and
- 30:25Speaker 1: we aim to stop them from developing a nuclear weapon.
- 30:29Speaker 2: Of those three, only one has remained.
- 30:32Speaker 1: They've given up on a ballistic missiles you want, cannot
- 30:35Speaker 1: build as many as they want, I e. And in
- 30:37Speaker 1: that way, since they've got them targeting all the golf facilities,
- 30:42Speaker 1: the oil and gas, the desalination plants and everything, they
- 30:46Speaker 1: basically they don't need a nuke. They basically, at least locally,
- 30:52Speaker 1: nobody's gonna touch them. Nobody's gonna touch them. Nobody's going
- 31:03Speaker 1: to touch them. Who needs a nuke when you got
- 31:05Speaker 1: ballistic missiles that can take out every desalination plant in
- 31:08Speaker 1: the Arabian Peninsula, every one of those countries is not
- 31:11Speaker 1: beholden to you won and they continue, you know, we'll
- 31:15Speaker 1: give this the hundred billion dollars and they'll use it
- 31:17Speaker 1: a fun and ramas in the future, and the Whoties
- 31:23Speaker 1: and whatever other groups they want. And here's the thing.
- 31:29Speaker 1: All this was avoidable, right, Why did Trump do this?
- 31:32Speaker 1: Trump did this because he wants all prices to come down.
- 31:36Speaker 1: Why all prices up? The only reason all prices are
- 31:40Speaker 1: up is because of Trump's strategic mistake on day one
- 31:46Speaker 1: of the war, which I pointed out to you. I
- 31:51Speaker 1: pointed out to you what was the strategic mistake. It
- 31:59Speaker 1: was letting the RAS closed.
- 32:00Speaker 2: The straits of Homos.
- 32:03Speaker 1: It was completely unnecessary, completely unnecessary. As I've said over
- 32:10Speaker 1: and over and over again, the US Navy had multiple
- 32:14Speaker 1: different plans on how to keep the states open. It
- 32:18Speaker 1: just needed a decision by Trump. It needed Trump to
- 32:27Speaker 1: actually say, keep the straits of Homos open, do whatever's
- 32:30Speaker 1: necessary to achieve that. He didn't do it. I guess
- 32:36Speaker 1: he thought the regime would fall in a week. But
- 32:41Speaker 1: that I have been telling you, and here I've been
- 32:43Speaker 1: right one hundred percent from the beginning, from day one,
- 32:50Speaker 1: I've been telling you that that was the fatal flaw
- 32:54Speaker 1: of the entire episode, the entire mission. And by the way,
- 32:58Speaker 1: from what I understand I don't have proof of this.
- 33:02Speaker 1: The military wounded him. You know, mister President, they're going
- 33:06Speaker 1: to close the stations of hormones, they closed the stations
- 33:08Speaker 1: of homoes. That it's going to create real problems for
- 33:11Speaker 1: oil and gas, and Jump said, yeah, there, you know
- 33:16Speaker 1: the regime will fall before that.
- 33:18Speaker 2: They won't be able to do it.
- 33:19Speaker 1: They won't do it.
- 33:20Speaker 2: They didn't do it last time, they won't do it
- 33:21Speaker 2: this time.
- 33:24Speaker 1: And then when they actually did close the states of
- 33:26Speaker 1: home Wars, he refused to order them open. It's just
- 33:32Speaker 1: it'll go down in world history as one of the
- 33:35Speaker 1: most one of the biggest blunders, strategic blunders in all
- 33:39Speaker 1: of warfare, and one hundred percent predictable. How do I
- 33:43Speaker 1: know it's one hundred percent predictable because I predicted it.
- 33:53Speaker 1: I predicted it. It's so frustating him. They want we'd
- 34:05Speaker 1: be talking about the Straits of Humos, but they need
- 34:07Speaker 1: to open them. And again, you don't recover from this.
- 34:15Speaker 1: The Chinese are looking at this and thinking, God, the
- 34:19Speaker 1: Americans are so incompetent, so unbelievably competent. Trump achieved regime change.
- 34:31Speaker 1: He killed the father and he got the son instead.
- 34:34Speaker 1: Son who's always been more radical than the father. He
- 34:37Speaker 1: killed the whole bunch. I mean, he didn't do it.
- 34:39Speaker 1: These Raelies killed all those people. The Americans did not
- 34:42Speaker 1: kill those people. These Raelies did. He killed a bunch
- 34:46Speaker 1: of ILGC commanders, and he got what he'd get instead,
- 34:49Speaker 1: a bunch of LGC commanders. He replaced one evil Islamist, fundamentalist, dictatorial,
- 35:02Speaker 1: anti Western Jihadi regime for another evil, dictatorial is Islamist
- 35:11Speaker 1: West hating ji hottist regime. Some people want to call
- 35:16Speaker 1: that regime change because Trump says so. God, Trump's zombie
- 35:22Speaker 1: syndrome is real. I'm telling you it's real. Use those
- 35:27Speaker 1: brain cells you have, guys. Anyway, Uh, it's devastating. It
- 35:42Speaker 1: just it really is. It's just a disaster. It's devastating.
- 35:47Speaker 1: It's depressing. I worry about now, you know, I worry
- 35:54Speaker 1: about Israel. But put aside Israel, war about America. I
- 35:57Speaker 1: worry about today, the next decade, the next two decades.
- 36:03Speaker 1: How do you live this down? Don't I don't think
- 36:06Speaker 1: there's a way to live this down. And this is
- 36:08Speaker 1: the I mean, this will be together with the failures
- 36:13Speaker 1: of nine to eleven, the failures of the financial crisis,
- 36:16Speaker 1: the failures of COVID. Now we got this failure. I
- 36:19Speaker 1: don't know that America can recover from these failures. I
- 36:27Speaker 1: mean it's lost whatever geopolitical mojo it had, it's lost, right,
- 36:32Speaker 1: and what do we what do we go back to now?
- 36:34Speaker 1: From policy wise, what do we have to lean on.
- 36:37Speaker 1: We've got a president who's pro Russia, basically pro Iran,
- 36:42Speaker 1: pro China. You know, in America, America will see its
- 36:50Speaker 1: role in the world. Maybe with the exception of the
- 36:53Speaker 1: America's diminished it'll see you know, it risks the color
- 37:00Speaker 1: lapse of trade. I mean, he's clearly anti trad h trade.
- 37:03Speaker 1: I mean, this is I mean, this presidency is one
- 37:08Speaker 1: abysmal decision after the other. I mean it's just I
- 37:13Speaker 1: mean the tariffs, the tariffs, you know, are incredibly destructive
- 37:23Speaker 1: to this country. I mean Donald Trump is doing unimagined
- 37:31Speaker 1: harm to this country.
- 37:33Speaker 2: He's not America first. He literally doesn't give.
- 37:37Speaker 1: He's a combination of too ignorant to know what's good
- 37:41Speaker 1: for America and not really caring about what's good for America.
- 37:45Speaker 1: He only cares about gaining the love of an attention
- 37:51Speaker 1: of the people. He wants to gain the love of
- 37:53Speaker 1: attention of Edward, who you really should anyway, you should really.
- 38:05Speaker 2: Should shut up.
- 38:10Speaker 1: What you're revealing about yourself is not pretty, all right,
- 38:18Speaker 1: it's you know we are we are in the you know,
- 38:25Speaker 1: in descent. He's going so this says he's going to
- 38:27Speaker 1: the G seven and he's going to meet European leaders
- 38:31Speaker 1: and world leaders at the G seven. I mean, they're
- 38:37Speaker 1: all laughing behind their backs at him. They all think
- 38:42Speaker 1: he's ridiculous. They all think he's a loser, all of them.
- 38:50Speaker 1: I think he's a loser. I mean even mccaughn, who's
- 38:53Speaker 1: a real loser, thinks Trump is a loser. They're not
- 38:58Speaker 1: gonna want to fight with the US because bet you
- 39:03Speaker 1: know they they what he's done on trade is ridiculous
- 39:07Speaker 1: and stupid and they know it. What he's done with
- 39:10Speaker 1: Iran is ridiculous and the defeat but primarily effects in
- 39:14Speaker 1: the US, so they don't care, right And what he
- 39:19Speaker 1: does with Russia, I think they've already given up on
- 39:21Speaker 1: the US visa v Russia. So it's going to be
- 39:26Speaker 1: interesting to see how these meetings go. They all put
- 39:29Speaker 1: up a bright face. This is politics. They're all hypocrites
- 39:33Speaker 1: and with no integrity, and liars, and so they all
- 39:38Speaker 1: put up this face. They'll all compliment him, they all
- 39:41Speaker 1: call him a big piece, uh, you know, his big
- 39:44Speaker 1: achievement in creating peace.
- 39:45Speaker 2: And then the background they'll laugh at him.
- 39:53Speaker 1: That'll announce an international mission to clear the minds and
- 39:56Speaker 1: the straits of homos. It's meaningless, stay to Homo's minds
- 40:01Speaker 1: could have been cleared weeks ago by the Americans themselves.
- 40:04Speaker 1: It's not that hard. That'll even they'll even have an
- 40:08Speaker 1: international mission to escort commercial ships out now that there's
- 40:13Speaker 1: no threat. Why not. So yeah, it's it's going to be.
- 40:27Speaker 1: It's a massive embarrassment. Of course, Trump is so clueless
- 40:31Speaker 1: that he he can't see how embarrassing it is to him.
- 40:33Speaker 1: He you know, if he had if if he had
- 40:36Speaker 1: any sense of of of the world, if he had
- 40:39Speaker 1: any sense right, he would it would be obvious to him.
- 40:42Speaker 1: How how they're laughing at him, How how ridiculous he
- 40:45Speaker 1: looks going into this meeting, and going into anty meeting,
- 40:48Speaker 1: right any meaning mccorn is gonna yeah, I think has
- 40:53Speaker 1: already given him a red carpet welcome. But of course
- 40:56Speaker 1: he wasn't there. So Trump arrived in Paris Nomaclon. Uh. So,
- 41:08Speaker 1: I guess he's going to speak with him, but he
- 41:10Speaker 1: was supposed to. They're supposed to meet at the airport.
- 41:13Speaker 2: Didn't happen. Ah, it's yes, and uh.
- 41:20Speaker 1: It really it really really really. You know, we'll see
- 41:24Speaker 1: if Trump throws them a bone by announcing that he
- 41:28Speaker 1: won't shrink troops in Europe quite as much as he
- 41:31Speaker 1: threatened he might do that. We will we will see,
- 41:35Speaker 1: we will see. Remember when Trump said he wouldn't end
- 41:38Speaker 1: the war with you on until there's unconditional surrender. You
- 41:41Speaker 1: guys didn't think that he meant the unconditional surrender of
- 41:43Speaker 1: the United States. I mean, I don't think he thought
- 41:48Speaker 1: that either. But that's that is the end result and
- 41:54Speaker 1: completely unmitigated disaster. And what is so sad about it
- 41:58Speaker 1: is that victory was in within the grasp, you know. Uh.
- 42:04Speaker 1: It's Trump that stopped the Kods from entering Iran because
- 42:08Speaker 1: he didn't want to upset Uduan Urdigan, the president of
- 42:11Speaker 1: the President of Turkey, the Islamist president of Turkey. He
- 42:17Speaker 1: uh he, you know, he stopped the bombing of Tehran
- 42:24Speaker 1: and the rest of Iran. Wee prematurely he refused to
- 42:29Speaker 1: attack civilian infrastructure.
- 42:33Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was it that.
- 42:36Speaker 1: Part of the sad part about this is they were close.
- 42:39Speaker 1: We could have had a you know, once in the
- 42:44Speaker 1: you know, once in uh not once in a decade,
- 42:50Speaker 1: once in multi decades geopolitical achievement by getting rid of
- 42:54Speaker 1: the Iranian regime, and Trump blew it. So all of you,
- 42:59Speaker 1: all of you who predicted that this war would end badly,
- 43:04Speaker 1: not because you're not say you didn't have the military
- 43:06Speaker 1: capabilities to win it, but because of Trump, you guys
- 43:12Speaker 1: will write I was overly optimistic, too, caught up in
- 43:17Speaker 1: the excitement finally seeing finally the United States attacking you run.
- 43:24Speaker 1: It's been so long.
- 43:26Speaker 2: I'd been calling out for such a long time.
- 43:29Speaker 1: I thought it was necessary for such a long time
- 43:33Speaker 1: that I got carried away, and you know, but should
- 43:36Speaker 1: have been able to step back and see, it's Trump.
- 43:41Speaker 1: It can't end well. And of course if I'd said that,
- 43:44Speaker 1: if I'd said that, you would, you know, not most
- 43:48Speaker 1: of you, but some of you would have said, oh
- 43:49Speaker 1: TDS again. But every time I say about Trump, he
- 43:55Speaker 1: lives up to my very low, you know, expectations. All right,
- 44:05Speaker 1: The Trump zombie symptom is strong, is strong. All right,
- 44:18Speaker 1: Let's see, all right, anthropic Anthropic is a ever changing,
- 44:27Speaker 1: ever evolving, ever weird, ever.
- 44:33Speaker 2: You know, interesting story.
- 44:35Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's there's just every every week there's
- 44:38Speaker 1: something with the God's anthropic. And of course, I think
- 44:41Speaker 1: when anthropic really represents is the massive on suddenly out
- 44:46Speaker 1: there around AI, the the you know, the the fact
- 44:52Speaker 1: that nobody knows what to do with AI exactly. Nobody
- 44:56Speaker 1: knows how to handle AI. Nobody knows, you know, the
- 45:00Speaker 1: and how to deal with those risks. Nobody has a
- 45:02Speaker 1: good clue about how to if the government has a role,
- 45:05Speaker 1: and if it does, what's that role be. In the meantime,
- 45:11Speaker 1: AI just gets better all the time. I don't know,
- 45:14Speaker 1: at some point it might hit at plateau, but right now,
- 45:17Speaker 1: it's just getting better all the time at certain functions.
- 45:21Speaker 1: And it certainly is getting riskier in a sense that
- 45:26Speaker 1: bad people using AI can do bad things, and I
- 45:31Speaker 1: mean pretty pretty big bad things, really big bad.
- 45:34Speaker 2: Things, and nobody knows how to handle it.
- 45:36Speaker 1: And unfortunately, again, you know, we've got a trumpet administration,
- 45:43Speaker 1: you know, that doesn't know what to do. They you know,
- 45:48Speaker 1: they have a lot of people telling them, don't regulate,
- 45:51Speaker 1: don't regulate, shouldn't regulate. But there are real risks here,
- 45:55Speaker 1: so they know they have to do something. They know that,
- 45:59Speaker 1: and they don't know what to do. And different people
- 46:01Speaker 1: with an administration are pushing in different directions. Now, I
- 46:03Speaker 1: don't know that any other administration would do better. But
- 46:06Speaker 1: Trump has no clue. He wouldn't know what an AI
- 46:09Speaker 1: was if it bit him. But so but the people
- 46:15Speaker 1: under him, I think there are various groups within the
- 46:18Speaker 1: White House vying for position here and and they don't know,
- 46:22Speaker 1: they have no idea. All right, So let's go through
- 46:41Speaker 1: what happened recently with on topic. So we talked about this,
- 46:46Speaker 1: I think last week, I think on Friday or Thursday,
- 46:49Speaker 1: we talked about this, and you know, we talked about
- 46:55Speaker 1: the fact that I think in the achievement section, which
- 47:00Speaker 1: before the achievement section, we talked about the fact that
- 47:03Speaker 1: and Toropic it released Cloud Fable five and Cloud Fable
- 47:08Speaker 1: five was a version of Cloud Mythos five, but Cloud
- 47:16Speaker 1: Methos fives was not being released to the general public
- 47:20Speaker 1: because two things. It that the Mythos class of a
- 47:26Speaker 1: I has because of its ability you know, to code
- 47:33Speaker 1: and identify code, has the ability to find security weaknesses
- 47:41Speaker 1: in software way too easily and then provide people with
- 47:46Speaker 1: the ability to hack.
- 47:51Speaker 2: Software. And some of that software is is.
- 47:54Speaker 1: Running the infrastructure behind pretty much everything we have in
- 47:57Speaker 1: the world today. So Anthropic has said, we're not going
- 48:01Speaker 1: to release myth Us publicly, will release it only to
- 48:05Speaker 1: you know, trusted parties, other big tech companies, so they
- 48:09Speaker 1: can test it out their old old programs, to the government,
- 48:13Speaker 1: to a few other entities they can check.
- 48:15Speaker 2: And find for vulnerabilities and and and and you know,
- 48:19Speaker 2: fix them, fix them.
- 48:21Speaker 1: So Fable five was released, which is a version of
- 48:25Speaker 1: myth Us, but it cannot find the the gaps in
- 48:35Speaker 1: in programming in these infrastructure software. It as soon as
- 48:41Speaker 1: somebody asks it to do that, it downgrades to an
- 48:44Speaker 1: old version of claud which doesn't have their capability. Second
- 48:49Speaker 1: thing it does is Mythos has the ability to generate,
- 48:56Speaker 1: you know, to teach you how to make biological weapons,
- 49:00Speaker 1: which are relatively easy to make. Again, Fable downgrade you
- 49:07Speaker 1: if you try to ask him what about that, it
- 49:09Speaker 1: downgrades you to another version of Claude where you can't
- 49:12Speaker 1: do that. So it released Fable five to the general public.
- 49:18Speaker 1: And this is the most powerful AI out there today. Right.
- 49:25Speaker 1: You know again, these models, according to Entropic, cross some
- 49:30Speaker 1: kind of threshold in terms of cybersecurity and biological capabilities,
- 49:35Speaker 1: and that's why it in a sense puts safeguards into Fable.
- 49:40Speaker 1: Then late Friday, June twelve, so this last Friday, US
- 49:45Speaker 1: government issued an expert, an Export Control Director. It required
- 49:51Speaker 1: Anthropic to suspend access to Fable five and myth Us
- 49:55Speaker 1: five by any foreign national, including foreign nationals Anthropic employees
- 50:04Speaker 1: inside the United States. Indeed, I think it's chief science
- 50:08Speaker 1: officer is a foreign national. He couldn't use the program
- 50:14Speaker 1: he helped developed, so you know so, and Topics said
- 50:27Speaker 1: it can't do that. So it had to basically disable
- 50:31Speaker 1: both models completely for everybody, for all its users. Because
- 50:33Speaker 1: it can't track who is a foreign national who is not.
- 50:38Speaker 1: It sends a model to Google, it doesn't know which
- 50:41Speaker 1: employees are using it. Now, suppose the government's concern was
- 50:49Speaker 1: that there were claims that people could jail break five
- 50:53Speaker 1: or five and get around the safeguards and actually use
- 50:59Speaker 1: it to identify by software vulnerabilities. For example, supposedly Amazon
- 51:08Speaker 1: had run some tests on this and discovered the jail break,
- 51:12Speaker 1: and Amazon is the one that called up the Trump
- 51:17Speaker 1: administration and told them this is not good. Now, Amazon
- 51:20Speaker 1: is a competitor of Anthropic, but Amazon is also being
- 51:24Speaker 1: invested in Anthropic, so it's probably not motivated by that
- 51:30Speaker 1: by by competition. It's not clear what exactly is going on,
- 51:34Speaker 1: and it's not clear how bad the vulnerability is on
- 51:38Speaker 1: Anthropic says it's reviewed you know, these jail breaks and
- 51:44Speaker 1: found that they were all previously known, and they're all minor,
- 51:51Speaker 1: and that you can find it in pretty much every
- 51:54Speaker 1: public model. Now, over the weekend end, this story becomes political,
- 52:03Speaker 1: not just technical. Weitz's reports and Toropic technical staff were
- 52:08Speaker 1: scheduled to meet COMMIS Department officials Monday, and that the
- 52:12Speaker 1: company had been in daily contact with officials since Friday.
- 52:16Speaker 1: More than eighty cybersecurity executives and experts reportedly signed the
- 52:20Speaker 1: letter urging the administration to lift the restrictions. But then remember,
- 52:25Speaker 1: Anthropic is the one that the that the UH that
- 52:29Speaker 1: people within the Trump administration are called woke have criticized
- 52:33Speaker 1: them for coding into a tropic leftist ideology. And it's
- 52:51Speaker 1: also the one that the Pentagon was using, you know,
- 52:55Speaker 1: in the Pentagon, as UH, you know, uh uh, not
- 52:59Speaker 1: just kick them out, but has deemed them as a
- 53:04Speaker 1: as a supply chain risk, which means almost nobody else
- 53:08Speaker 1: within the universe of the Pentagon, all the companies working
- 53:12Speaker 1: with the Pentagon can use that Toropic. Now Anthropic issuing
- 53:15Speaker 1: that is in court right now, we'll see what happens
- 53:18Speaker 1: with the whole thing. So and topic and the Trumpet administration,
- 53:25Speaker 1: you know, administration accused of antopica, make you Woki called
- 53:28Speaker 1: the Chief executive daw a mode and ideological lunatic, and
- 53:37Speaker 1: they've been disagreement about AI regulations and semiconducted expert policies.
- 53:45Speaker 1: And then of course we know what happened with the
- 53:46Speaker 1: Pentagon and Anthropic and you know, and deem them a
- 53:52Speaker 1: supply chain risk. So all of this is tied up
- 53:54Speaker 1: with ideology and with you know that he's a leftist
- 53:58Speaker 1: and with politics, you know, in the Defense Department, and
- 54:03Speaker 1: and there's a lawsuit and you know, it's it's a mess.
- 54:08Speaker 1: Now it turns out it turns out that you know,
- 54:19Speaker 1: actually it wasn't the chief chief scientist, but at least
- 54:22Speaker 1: one top AI scientist at entrop Ithopic is barred from
- 54:26Speaker 1: accessing the company's most advanced eymodel because he's not a
- 54:29Speaker 1: US citizen as a fighter. Now, the White House says,
- 54:35Speaker 1: we try to call Anthropic and let them know before
- 54:38Speaker 1: we put out disorder. We try to get them to
- 54:40Speaker 1: fix it. An topic says that that's completely false. White
- 54:45Speaker 1: House says expert controls with the last resort after begging
- 54:48Speaker 1: them for hours to work with US. Anthropic says we
- 54:50Speaker 1: responded within seventy five minutes. Guvernment gave no details of
- 54:54Speaker 1: the threat. So, I mean, who do you believe? You know? Uh,
- 55:01Speaker 1: And this is us a tight end with the fact that, Yeah,
- 55:04Speaker 1: the CEO of Anthropic is a political figure, he is
- 55:07Speaker 1: a leftist, and the reality is that he is, you know,
- 55:19Speaker 1: he is he has been urging the government to regulate
- 55:24Speaker 1: AI in need. The reality is that the CEO of
- 55:32Speaker 1: Enthropic a you know, published a white paper on Friday
- 55:39Speaker 1: same day urging the government to regulate you know, to
- 55:47Speaker 1: regulate AI, to actually create an FAA style agency to
- 55:56Speaker 1: prove all frontier AI models before they released, with the
- 56:00Speaker 1: government authority to block deployment if an independent auditor deemed
- 56:04Speaker 1: the model to Risky's proposal, of course, is all about
- 56:09Speaker 1: safety and cybersecurity and bioweapons and loss of control and
- 56:13Speaker 1: all of this. But it's also such regulations would give.
- 56:20Speaker 2: Anthropic a competitive advantage.
- 56:22Speaker 1: Not Visa V Chat, GPT and Google and Google Gemini
- 56:26Speaker 1: and maybe Xai, but Visa v the alternative, which is
- 56:31Speaker 1: open source AI open so s AI. You know, there's
- 56:37Speaker 1: no body to actually put it up online. Yeah, sorry,
- 56:43Speaker 1: you send it to the government get permission. This would
- 56:46Speaker 1: just shut down open so SAI because they couldn't get
- 56:50Speaker 1: a regulator of permission for their models.
- 56:54Speaker 2: So Anthropic is fighting with the.
- 56:56Speaker 1: Government and at the same time arguing from massive government
- 56:59Speaker 1: regulation in a bi Now, government probably does have a
- 57:04Speaker 1: role to play here, and government has a role to
- 57:10Speaker 1: play here because AI really does potentially represent a national
- 57:18Speaker 1: security threat. Now, what the best way for the government
- 57:23Speaker 1: to deal with this threat is. You know, a better
- 57:27Speaker 1: government than we have today would have to figure out
- 57:29Speaker 1: how to do it without stifling innovation, without blocking competition,
- 57:36Speaker 1: without just favoring the big companies that can afford to
- 57:41Speaker 1: deal with regulators. How do you encourage competition at the
- 57:44Speaker 1: same time prevent the national security risks involved? And you know,
- 57:52Speaker 1: I don't have an answer for that, but it can
- 57:58Speaker 1: be a great point. It can be a method that
- 58:03Speaker 1: basically eliminates competition. It can be one that restricts the
- 58:10Speaker 1: building of AIS only to the existing big companies. But
- 58:18Speaker 1: else it can be you don't there's no liability, do
- 58:22Speaker 1: whatever you will. I mean, maybe it's the creation of
- 58:24Speaker 1: a liability system. Whereas AI companies are held liable for
- 58:32Speaker 1: any damage that is caused as a consequence of the
- 58:35Speaker 1: use of their models, how do you apply that to
- 58:38Speaker 1: open source models.
- 58:40Speaker 2: I don't know, you'd have to think about that.
- 58:42Speaker 1: So there's some real tricky issues here that somebody is
- 58:46Speaker 1: going to have to do some deep thinking and work
- 58:48Speaker 1: to figure out. Some mean, I'm not familiar enough with
- 59:05Speaker 1: the industry itself, but somebody is gonna have to do
- 59:17Speaker 1: the work. This is what you have ideally in a
- 59:20Speaker 1: truly free society. You have legal philosophers really with a
- 59:24Speaker 1: tech background, really thinking through these issues and trying to
- 59:27Speaker 1: figure out how to best miss is that this keeps
- 59:30Speaker 1: coming on, how to best deal with something like this anyway?
- 59:35Speaker 1: The you know, everybody's commenting on this, all the different
- 59:39Speaker 1: tech people, all the AI, different companies. Everybody's got a position,
- 59:44Speaker 1: everybody's got an opinion. Uh, there's a lot of conflict
- 59:48Speaker 1: going on. You know, I don't know what the right
- 59:51Speaker 1: thing is. I mean, I think what's going to happen here.
- 59:54Speaker 1: I hope is entropy can can fix whatever whatever problems
- 59:58Speaker 1: they are with with the AI so that it can
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: be released again to the public. Is I mean, to
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: stop innovation, to stop growth, to stop progress is wrong.
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: But if there are real issues, get them to fix.
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: And I'm not sure this is how the government should
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: be interacting with them. Bans on foreign nationals. What American
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: citizens can't uh can't use this for ill. The lots
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: of people can use this for ill. There's nothing to
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: do with foreign citizens. That's that's again such a you know,
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: four big typical Trump administration type thing. Only the foreigners
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: can use this for bad stuff. Anyway, Let's see what happens.
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: Let's see if they're going to fix this. You know,
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: what interest do they have not to fix it the
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: the If the job break is not that big of
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: a deal, then then just deal with it. But again,
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: I thought saying, these weaknesses in the AI exist in
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: every II and they're not a big deal. Why is
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: anybody making a deal out of this? I have no
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: clear opinion about that, all right, that is uh anthropic.
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: We will have my guesses almost everyday stories about AI.
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: AI is just going to become a dominant part of
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: our world. And that's mostly for the good, mostly for
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: the good. All right, let's see, Yeah, this is last week,
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: this happened. I guess last week or this weekend hapened
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: this new again. You know, in Switzerland a lot of
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: governance happens through through propositions, through just votes, proposals that
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: everybody votes on the tape, population votes on different suggestion
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: raise taxes, lowest taxes. Anyway, this weekend, Switzerland voted on
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: a proposal to limit cap the size of the country's
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: population a ten million. Now I assume they didn't mean that.
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: You know, if you had lots of babies and you
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: exceeded ten million, you'd have to kick the babies out
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: of the country. I mean, this is mainly targeted at immigration, right,
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: So the idea is and it's not about citizenship.
- 1:02:42Speaker 2: It was about population, the number of people living in Switzerland.
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: And the idea was we should cap it at.
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: Ten million. At ten million people Switzerland, which is about
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: the side of Michigan's Upper Peninsula, very big, right, Michigan's
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: up Upper Peninsula has a population about nine point one million,
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: and they've grown twenty five percent in the twenty fifth century.
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: Since two thousand, they've gone twenty five percent, and almost
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: all that growth, almost all that growth has come from immigration.
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: So people, a lot of people come to Switzerland to
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: try to escape the tax rates in other countries. Uh
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: And the Ballid measure would have begun to impose some
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: limits and growth when his population hit nine point five
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: million and then kept it at ten. Right, the proposition failed.
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: Fifty percent of Swiss voted against it to forty five
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: percent who vote for it. I think I'm sure only
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: citizens vote in this. In most Western countries, population is
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: actually shrinking because of low birth rates birth rates in
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: many in many Western countries, and it's it's going to
- 1:04:30Speaker 1: be very difficult for them to grow without you know,
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: without kind of immigrants. But anyway, this is you know,
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: the whole idea was the way this was pitched was
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: this was designed to protect Switzerland's public services and its environment.
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: But the party that proposed it, the Swiss People's Party,
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: has a long history of anti immigration platform uh and
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: and trying to get people to vote on you know,
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: against immigration. Reduced immigration anyway, they voted it down, so
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: good for the Swiss. There should be no limits on
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: the size of a country, the you know where it
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: should have no restrictions. And uh, you know the Switzerland
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: doesn't let everybody become a citizen, and it has pretty
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: it's not doesn't have open voters. It has stringent immigration requirements,
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: and yet its population has grown because of immigrants, immigrants increasing.
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: I was just in in Zurich and it was it
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: was lovely there. Anyway, I thought you'd want to know you.
- 1:05:47Speaker 2: Can still go to Switzerland.
- 1:05:50Speaker 1: Peru. Peru had an election and the choice in the
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: election was between a far leftist almost Kami and Kiko
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: Fujimuru Fuji Mori, Fuji Moi. You know who is the
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: daughter of a Bildo Fujimi who was a pretty authoritarian
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: ruler of Peru. When was this about twenty plus years ago? Uh,
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: And he landed up in jail ultimately and died in
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: jail a few years ago. She has now run for
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: the presidency of Peru. I think this was a fourth time,
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: and she lost three times. She finally won this time.
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: She you know, runs the movement that her father created
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: that led to his rule in the nineteen nineties. I
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: guess up until two thousand he did do a few
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: good things. He smashed the Bruto maoist in so agency
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: that was in Peru. He smashed hype inflation, and he
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: actually did quite a few things to liberate and liberalize
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: the peruvin economy. So he did. I think he did
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: a pretty good, pretty good job, a pretty good job.
- 1:07:17Speaker 2: But he was also.
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: Brutal. I mean, he didn't have a lot of respect
- 1:07:24Speaker 1: for individual rights, a lot of a lot of torture
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: and murder, and a lot of corruption which he sat
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: in jail for ultimately, and her father actually supported free
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: market policies. Now it's not clear where the Kiko does
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: as well. She is much more of a populist right winger,
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: so it's going to be interesting to see what she
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: actually does. She's pledged to crack down a violent I'm
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: modeling herself like all South Americans do these days on
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: the dictator president of al Salvado, right, that is the model.
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: But will she actually will she actually deal with the
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: economy and actually continued liberalization and turn PROO into a
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: free market. She won by a sliver she has, you know,
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: she basically won with just about fifty percent of the vote.
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: I mean it's fifty points zoo zoo two percent and
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: just a few hundred votes out of twenty million people.
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: So it sounding like she has a massive, you know,
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: confidence of the people. So it's going to be interesting.
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: Now she joins other right wingers that you know, have
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: won recently in other countries. Now all of basically Latin America,
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: only Uruguay, Colombia, and Brazil have left of center governments,
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: and Colombia probably is going to have a populist right
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: winger as president soon here. Brazil will see in the
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: coming elections, and I'm not sure about Uruguay. I'm not
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: sure about Uruguay. So yeah, I mean, Keiko is Uh,
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: We're gonna have to watch and see what she does. Uh.
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: You know, she's been in politics since she was basically
- 1:09:42Speaker 1: by the side of her father. She acted like the
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: first Lady when she as early as when she was
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: a teenager. She has no charisma. She claims she's rejecting
- 1:09:55Speaker 1: her father's authoritarian tendencies. We'll see if she lives up
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: to that. I mean, the Alderigimo dissolved Congress, arrested political opponents,
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: helped faudulent elections. She says she will not do any
- 1:10:12Speaker 1: of that, and we'll see whether she is profiy markets.
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: That'll be I mean, from my perspective, that is the
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: ultimate task. And can she can she clamp down on
- 1:10:30Speaker 1: crime without mass violation of rights? That'll be that'll be
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: the question. All right, we will see what happens. We
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: will follow Peru as well, follow all the countries in
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: Latin America as they go through this transition. Roland says,
- 1:10:57Speaker 1: I'm going to read this out of order. Orland said,
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: not only do immigrants come to Switzerland, some of them
- 1:11:05Speaker 1: even support the Iron Brooks Show. This is Roland who
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: basically is here of every day contributing Swiss Franks, very
- 1:11:12Speaker 1: very valuable Swiss Franks. I'm glad the proposition was voted down.
- 1:11:18Speaker 1: I feel a lot better about living here this way.
- 1:11:22Speaker 2: Thank you, Roland.
- 1:11:23Speaker 1: I appreciate all the support, and I too am glad
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: it was voted down and that you're there. And you
- 1:11:30Speaker 1: know the number of objectivists in Switzerland that I know,
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: and I don't think any of them are Swiss Italians.
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: Roland is from Hungry, That's right, ol Bun's hungry, or
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: pre O Bun's hungry, Orland is from Hungry. I know
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: somebody from Denmark. I mean all the Swiss objectivists are
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: like following us. There might be a few Swiss Swiss objectivists,
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: but the rest of people who live there who were
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: not born then I don't know if they're even citizens.
- 1:12:00Speaker 1: Probably not citizens. All right, let's see Candace. We have
- 1:12:10Speaker 1: to talk about Candace. Candas, Candas, and then we'll get
- 1:12:14Speaker 1: to the good news. A lot of good news. There's Candas.
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: This is a clip of Candace talking about Russia. And
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: I only play this because God, so many people on
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: the right, so many people on the right just think
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: Russia is great. They just think Russia is so cool.
- 1:12:39Speaker 1: Now she went to Russia, she visited, and she's now
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: advocating for this. Russia is the future, Russia is just amazing.
- 1:12:48Speaker 1: All this while Russia is losing to Ukraine. Its economy
- 1:12:53Speaker 1: is datas not to mention just everything else that's horrible
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: about Russia. So I thought, we just watched this quickly,
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: I'd give you a few stats about Russia and we
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: would move on. So here is here was candae On.
- 1:13:11Speaker 2: Here was candae On on Russia.
- 1:13:16Speaker 3: My takeaway from visiting Russia. Is that it is our
- 1:13:20Speaker 3: society that is on the decline, not theirs. Russia, like
- 1:13:24Speaker 3: I said, has not been communists in over thirty years.
- 1:13:26Speaker 1: We are, so Russia is mostthalitarian, most socialist in its
- 1:13:31Speaker 1: you know, role of government in business.
- 1:13:34Speaker 2: Then we are we're you know, we're heading in that direction.
- 1:13:37Speaker 2: But we're more socialists in China. Then sorry, Russia? Where
- 1:13:43Speaker 2: does she live?
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: What universe does she come from? I mean, she really is,
- 1:13:49Speaker 1: you know, I mean, she's being paid by somebody to
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: say the stuff I guess, or she's just nuts, which
- 1:13:56Speaker 1: is probably true as well. She's probably both being paid
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: by somebody and she's nuts and she's nuts.
- 1:14:04Speaker 3: What about US pornography, welfare ism, NonStop war.
- 1:14:10Speaker 2: Pornography and welfare ism?
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: Do you get a sense that in Russia they use
- 1:14:18Speaker 1: less pornography or more pornography than the US? I haven't
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: seen stats. I don't know if they are stats about this,
- 1:14:24Speaker 1: but pornography, I mean, is that what's killing America? And
- 1:14:31Speaker 1: is that what doesn't exist in Russia? I mean, God,
- 1:14:36Speaker 1: if you guys ever been to Russia, I mean, you know,
- 1:14:41Speaker 1: I think prostitution is more prevalent in Russia than it
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: is in the United States, So I think prostitution's worse
- 1:14:49Speaker 1: than pornography. I mean, I remember I was last time
- 1:14:53Speaker 1: I was in Russia. I think that, Yeah, this was
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: in Moscow. I'm pretty sure it was in Moscow. Maybe
- 1:15:00Speaker 1: it was some music. I can't remember it, but either
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: one of those. I want to go to dinner and there,
- 1:15:06Speaker 1: so somebody said, there's a really nice, you know, nice
- 1:15:08Speaker 1: restaurant across the street. Everything was snowed in, it was ice,
- 1:15:12Speaker 1: it was it was difficult to walk for me. Right now,
- 1:15:15Speaker 1: I go to this restaurant. I go in and it
- 1:15:16Speaker 1: is really really nice, and it's like, it looks like
- 1:15:21Speaker 1: it could have been a California restaurant, could have been
- 1:15:23Speaker 1: a restaurant in Miami. Very hip, hip music going on.
- 1:15:27Speaker 1: The waitresses are gorgeous. Everybody's gorgeous in this restaurant except
- 1:15:30Speaker 1: the men. And then I notice I noticed this, and
- 1:15:34Speaker 1: I've never I've never seen anything quite like it. Every
- 1:15:38Speaker 1: single table, every single table, was occupied by a middle
- 1:15:44Speaker 1: aged Russian man, mostly overweight, and a gorgeous twenty thirty
- 1:15:52Speaker 1: year old Russian woman. I mean, in Russian women can
- 1:15:55Speaker 1: be beautiful, as Tolsloy said. The beauty of Russian women
- 1:16:00Speaker 1: is very short lived. It doesn't last for very long,
- 1:16:03Speaker 1: but they can be very beautiful. Anyway, every single table,
- 1:16:06Speaker 1: some table that at two couples, but it was always
- 1:16:09Speaker 1: the couples. What was saying, pretty ugly middle aged men
- 1:16:14Speaker 1: and beautiful young women. That's Russia for you. But they
- 1:16:20Speaker 1: watched less porn. I guess, according to Candis and we
- 1:16:25Speaker 1: have welfareism in America, we have Welfurism. I wonder if
- 1:16:31Speaker 1: more people are less people are on the government's dole
- 1:16:34Speaker 1: in Russia or in America. I mean, I don't know
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: what the answer that is. Maybe it is America. And
- 1:16:38Speaker 1: I'm with Candas about let's get rid of wolfurism.
- 1:16:41Speaker 2: I'm all for that. Let's get rid of Welfurism.
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: You don't have to compare us to Russia. I mean, indeed,
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: we have more welfare in America than in China. China
- 1:16:49Speaker 1: has less welfare, a lot less welfare, a lot less
- 1:16:52Speaker 1: welfare than the United States. Debt, people, debt, if you've
- 1:16:59Speaker 1: seen how much debt Russia's accumulating right now, not to
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: mention inflation we have, like we're worried because inflation is
- 1:17:07Speaker 1: like four percent. Oh my god, four percent. Russia's inflation
- 1:17:11Speaker 1: is over twenty into straits over twenty? Really is debt?
- 1:17:19Speaker 2: Is this a problem? I mean, I agree with wolfur ism, debt.
- 1:17:24Speaker 3: People telling us that this is freedom, stop war, debt, barrism,
- 1:17:28Speaker 3: NonStop war.
- 1:17:30Speaker 2: Debt, NonStop war. Isn't that fascinating?
- 1:17:33Speaker 1: I mean here, complete delusional, right, completely delusional. Yeah, we
- 1:17:41Speaker 1: just had a war. It was pretty short because Trump surrendered.
- 1:17:47Speaker 2: But how long is Russia's war been going on?
- 1:17:51Speaker 1: And even though they attacked a pretty weak enemy, they
- 1:17:57Speaker 1: lost their losing on the battlefield. Do at least not
- 1:17:59Speaker 1: winning on the field for sure, at least the United
- 1:18:02Speaker 1: States won on the battlefield.
- 1:18:03Speaker 2: They're lost in diplomacy, but it.
- 1:18:05Speaker 1: Won on the battlefield.
- 1:18:07Speaker 2: It can't even win on the battlefield.
- 1:18:09Speaker 1: And it's an endless war started in what two thousand
- 1:18:13Speaker 1: and two, February two thousand and two, four years ago,
- 1:18:16Speaker 1: four and a half years ago, still going so endless war.
- 1:18:20Speaker 1: I mean, this just shows how completely delusional she is.
- 1:18:26Speaker 1: Completely But the thing is she is a symptom of
- 1:18:30Speaker 1: an entire rate that is dedicated to this.
- 1:18:36Speaker 3: People telling us that this is freedom, right, this is great,
- 1:18:39Speaker 3: this is you being free. You wouldn't want to live
- 1:18:42Speaker 3: in Russia. That's the boogeyman syndrome, right, They're comparing it
- 1:18:46Speaker 3: to something that you've never seen, so that you don't
- 1:18:50Speaker 3: I don't know Riot in the streets, my tip.
- 1:18:53Speaker 1: I actually have seen being to Russia, being Si Petersburg
- 1:18:57Speaker 1: and Moscow, at least seen been there and read a
- 1:19:03Speaker 1: lot about it and followed what they do, and yeah,
- 1:19:08Speaker 1: you don't want to live in Russia. I also noticed
- 1:19:12Speaker 1: that people are much more likely to leave Russia than
- 1:19:17Speaker 1: come in. Now. They do have some illegal immigrants from
- 1:19:20Speaker 1: Central Asia who come in, mainly Muslims from Central Asia,
- 1:19:26Speaker 1: but mostly Russians are leaving. You know, when the war started,
- 1:19:32Speaker 1: Russians fled. I mean as bad as the war with
- 1:19:36Speaker 1: you want is. Americas haven't left America because of it.
- 1:19:39Speaker 1: I mean maybe some, but not in mass So what
- 1:19:42Speaker 1: is she talking about? And then add to that, just
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: a few stats. Russia is the world's highest divorce rates.
- 1:19:53Speaker 1: I think Candas is an anti divorce. I'm pretty sure
- 1:19:57Speaker 1: she's an anti divorce. Russia has about double America's alcoholism rates.
- 1:20:06Speaker 1: Now we probably have a bigger drug problem. They prefer
- 1:20:10Speaker 1: drug is alcohol, but they have a drug it's alcohol.
- 1:20:13Speaker 1: If it's such a beautiful, amazing, wonderful place, why do
- 1:20:16Speaker 1: they drink so much? And then, you know, we're constantly
- 1:20:20Speaker 1: told by these right wing nuts that Russia is where.
- 1:20:24Speaker 2: Yeah, the good Christian country.
- 1:20:27Speaker 1: It turns out only twelve percent of Russians attend religious
- 1:20:29Speaker 1: services once a month or more, whereas in the United
- 1:20:33Speaker 1: States that number is thirty four percent. Americans are three
- 1:20:36Speaker 1: times more likely to attend church than Russians, three times more.
- 1:20:43Speaker 1: It's a very secular country, that's not it. You know,
- 1:20:48Speaker 1: that's a good thing, but not in the way it
- 1:20:49Speaker 1: manifests itself in Russia. And then they tell you that
- 1:20:55Speaker 1: it's a white culture. Oh white, they're the defenders of
- 1:20:58Speaker 1: white civilization. But the percentage of non whites in Russia
- 1:21:06Speaker 1: is much higher than the percentage of non whites in
- 1:21:08Speaker 1: any other European country. A percentage of Muslims in Russia
- 1:21:14Speaker 1: is much higher than the percentage of Muslims in any
- 1:21:16Speaker 1: other European country. And the country most susceptible to Islam
- 1:21:23Speaker 1: taking over is not France or the UK you might
- 1:21:27Speaker 1: think it is, it's Russia. The country that's had the
- 1:21:30Speaker 1: most terrorist attacks by Muslims.
- 1:21:35Speaker 2: Is Russia.
- 1:21:39Speaker 1: So I mean the cluelessness, the cluelessness of people like her,
- 1:21:48Speaker 1: and just the whole rights and the infatuation with Russia
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: is pretty pretty stunning. It really is pretty amazing stuff.
- 1:21:58Speaker 1: All right, Now we get to the part that I
- 1:22:00Speaker 1: know all of you are being waiting for, and that
- 1:22:02Speaker 1: is the good news section.
- 1:22:05Speaker 2: Good news section. All right, let's start.
- 1:22:07Speaker 1: We'll do, we'll do.
- 1:22:09Speaker 2: We've got five stories.
- 1:22:10Speaker 1: We'll do it quickly. At first, there is a big
- 1:22:13Speaker 1: story in the New York Times today about the fact
- 1:22:16Speaker 1: that Africa has a growing middle class. And what is
- 1:22:22Speaker 1: one indication of a growing middle class. What a middle
- 1:22:24Speaker 1: class people do that poor people tend not to do. Travel? Travel.
- 1:22:34Speaker 1: The reality is that Africans are now traveling Pomelli around Africa.
- 1:22:40Speaker 1: There is a new African tourism over the past few years.
- 1:22:49Speaker 1: You know, if you if you look at places like
- 1:22:51Speaker 1: Daka and Senegal and other places, you see more and
- 1:22:55Speaker 1: more tourists from other parts of Africa. The number of
- 1:23:02Speaker 1: tourists visiting African countries grew by almost eight percent.
- 1:23:05Speaker 2: Last year, the fastest growth in the world.
- 1:23:08Speaker 1: According to whatever this search isn't being driven by visitors
- 1:23:13Speaker 1: from Europe or Asian. It's being driven in large part
- 1:23:17Speaker 1: by growing African middle class that is exploring the continent
- 1:23:21Speaker 1: for the first time. And the most visible travelers are
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: millennials and gen zas, and they're changing African ideas about leisure,
- 1:23:30Speaker 1: travel and even about what Africa is. This is great.
- 1:23:34Speaker 1: I am huge supporter, you know, huge supporter of African development.
- 1:23:43Speaker 1: This is a quote from the chief executive of Africa's
- 1:23:46Speaker 1: eden in nonprofit to promote African tourism. Travel is increasingly
- 1:23:50Speaker 1: seen as part of an identity of everyday life, rather
- 1:23:53Speaker 1: than a luxury. African travelers are viewing their own continent
- 1:23:57Speaker 1: as aspirational, sophisticated and worth exploring. I mean, if the
- 1:24:04Speaker 1: African food have eaten in London, there is any reflection
- 1:24:07Speaker 1: of food in Africa. Colt me in Now some advantages.
- 1:24:13Speaker 1: First of all, a lot of new flights, a lot
- 1:24:17Speaker 1: of discount carriers. Although there's still some of the highest
- 1:24:22Speaker 1: prices in the world. They need massive deregulation there, but
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: they've been improving prices of coming down, so there's been
- 1:24:34Speaker 1: more competition. There's also a lot of countries that allow
- 1:24:39Speaker 1: you to travel within Africa visa free, so places like Beneen, Gmbia, Kinya,
- 1:24:48Speaker 1: Ghana have scrapped.
- 1:24:50Speaker 2: Visas for African passport holders.
- 1:24:52Speaker 1: It's also now a free trade zone, which is going
- 1:24:56Speaker 1: to increase standard of living, increase the middle class, to
- 1:25:00Speaker 1: increase cross travel.
- 1:25:01Speaker 2: People are going to travel more for business.
- 1:25:03Speaker 1: They can experience other parts of Africa that they're going
- 1:25:06Speaker 1: to want to go on vacation. Right in Nigeria, you
- 1:25:15Speaker 1: can see big billboards advertising.
- 1:25:18Speaker 2: Stress free weekend in Beneen.
- 1:25:23Speaker 1: Right, So Africa is potentially up and coming, potentially up
- 1:25:33Speaker 1: and coming. We'll see, We'll see how it evolves. The
- 1:25:37Speaker 1: free trade zone is a is a great is a
- 1:25:39Speaker 1: great fust step. They need to liberate the economies. They
- 1:25:44Speaker 1: need to establish respect for property rights. Education needs to
- 1:25:49Speaker 1: be improved across Africa. But it's happening. You know, Africa
- 1:25:54Speaker 1: is gaining a middle class. So that's good news. All right.
- 1:26:03Speaker 2: Let's see.
- 1:26:05Speaker 1: You know, the US has a grid operator grid operators,
- 1:26:11Speaker 1: and there's a ton of regulations about you know, getting
- 1:26:16Speaker 1: on the grid. So let's say you build a power
- 1:26:18Speaker 1: plant and now you want to connect your pop plant
- 1:26:20Speaker 1: to the grid. It can take forever. Its unbelievable amount
- 1:26:24Speaker 1: of paperwork and everything anyway. As part of the deregulation
- 1:26:29Speaker 1: of the Trump administration, last week, the Federal Energy Regulatory
- 1:26:34Speaker 1: Commission approved a proposal to expedite interconnections. That is, they've
- 1:26:42Speaker 1: created a new process. It's temporary, but they want to
- 1:26:44Speaker 1: make it permanent to advance projects of significant size, to
- 1:26:50Speaker 1: make it easy for them to connect to the grid quickly, quickly, right,
- 1:27:00Speaker 1: and the idea is to add generation as fast as
- 1:27:05Speaker 1: we can. We've got massive increases in demand for electricity.
- 1:27:09Speaker 2: It's only going to get.
- 1:27:12Speaker 1: More so. And if you build a poplane, then you
- 1:27:15Speaker 1: have to sit it idle because you can't connect to
- 1:27:17Speaker 1: the grid. It's a disaster that it's hard enough to
- 1:27:20Speaker 1: build a popland. It's so regulatory buddens them to build
- 1:27:23Speaker 1: a poplane and then you can't even deploy it. So
- 1:27:28Speaker 1: there is some loosening of regulations to make that possible.
- 1:27:31Speaker 2: That is good news. Here's one it's almost ludicrous and funny, but.
- 1:27:37Speaker 1: It's true for twenty years, for twenty you know, for sorry, yeah,
- 1:27:46Speaker 1: for twenty years. There's being a sunscreen chemical ingredient called
- 1:27:55Speaker 1: ben mutt trisen all something like that, b empt bemped
- 1:28:03Speaker 1: it's called BEM that has been approved in Europe for
- 1:28:08Speaker 1: twenty years and approved in other countries and has not
- 1:28:13Speaker 1: been approved by the FDA. So the United States had
- 1:28:16Speaker 1: very limited options when it came to sunscreen. But again
- 1:28:23Speaker 1: the FDA equivalent in Europe has said no, this is
- 1:28:26Speaker 1: completely safe for over twenty years. Well anyway, the FDA
- 1:28:32Speaker 1: finally last Wednesday, after twenty plus years, has approved b
- 1:28:42Speaker 1: e mt as for sunscreens. Expect much more competition in
- 1:28:49Speaker 1: the sunscreen world.
- 1:28:52Speaker 2: And more choices for those of us living in the sun.
- 1:28:59Speaker 1: This is good news generally, sunscreen good, getting burnt by
- 1:29:10Speaker 1: the sun bad. Yeah, I mean pretty pretty cliar cut
- 1:29:16Speaker 1: all right. Amazon says the thanks to advanced DAI, its
- 1:29:22Speaker 1: next generation warehouse robot can now be assigned tasks by.
- 1:29:27Speaker 2: Employees the way you'd communicate with a colleague.
- 1:29:31Speaker 1: The company unveiled the latest version of Proteus robot on Thursday,
- 1:29:36Speaker 1: and you can just.
- 1:29:37Speaker 2: Tell Potius what to do.
- 1:29:40Speaker 1: Proteus was first introduced in twenty twenty two as the
- 1:29:44Speaker 1: first fully autonomous mobile robot. It's designed to operate in
- 1:29:49Speaker 1: dark areas and fulfillment centers, carrying carts full of packages
- 1:29:53Speaker 1: that could weigh nearly four hundred kilograms eight hundred and
- 1:29:56Speaker 1: eighty two pounds over long distances. The new Proteus robot
- 1:30:02Speaker 1: will be able to work across more parts of Amazon's
- 1:30:04Speaker 1: facilities anywhere items need to be moved, including transporting containers
- 1:30:10Speaker 1: and delivery sites. But the biggest upgrade is the fact
- 1:30:15Speaker 1: that employees cannot talk to it, and they don't even
- 1:30:19Speaker 1: have to use technical commands or programming interface they have.
- 1:30:23Speaker 1: All they have to do is use plane language conversational
- 1:30:27Speaker 1: language to tell her what to do. So not only
- 1:30:31Speaker 1: as AI is coming, the robots are coming. The robots
- 1:30:36Speaker 1: are coming, and yeah, it's going to be a brand
- 1:30:39Speaker 1: new world with robots everywhere. All right. By the way,
- 1:30:43Speaker 1: many of these stories come from Human Progress. You can
- 1:30:47Speaker 1: find human progress dot org. Human progress dot org has
- 1:30:51Speaker 1: a bunch of these good news stories on a regular basis.
- 1:30:56Speaker 1: Here's one which is basically to combat the purpose of
- 1:31:01Speaker 1: which is to combat the the growth. Whops, I don't want, Candice,
- 1:31:05Speaker 1: I want that. Whoops, And it's it's miss miss miss
- 1:31:09Speaker 1: miss miss. Second. There we go. That's where it's supposed
- 1:31:16Speaker 1: to be supposed to be right there. We can ludge
- 1:31:22Speaker 1: it a little bit so you can see it better,
- 1:31:24Speaker 1: all right, there it is. So we talked about the
- 1:31:27Speaker 1: growth last time and in this the growth paper that
- 1:31:30Speaker 1: was published last week in the Guardian, these stigults and
- 1:31:34Speaker 1: over price winning economists and another economists wrote that growth
- 1:31:37Speaker 1: is no good and it doesn't help the poor. Growth
- 1:31:41Speaker 1: is no good and it doesn't help the pot Well,
- 1:31:45Speaker 1: this is a this is a graph. These are These
- 1:31:47Speaker 1: are nine graphs. The divide up each graph within the
- 1:31:51Speaker 1: nine is a region of the world. And on the
- 1:31:56Speaker 1: you know, on the y access you have the percentage
- 1:31:59Speaker 1: of people living in poverty. Now what does poverty mean here?
- 1:32:04Speaker 1: Poverty is measured by the cost of basic needs. It
- 1:32:07Speaker 1: represents the share which was unable to which the share
- 1:32:12Speaker 1: of the population which is unable to obtain a bundle
- 1:32:15Speaker 1: of very basic goods and services. Okay, price changes, inflation
- 1:32:21Speaker 1: and price differences between countries all taken into account in
- 1:32:25Speaker 1: this measure. The X axis x access represents GDP per capita,
- 1:32:33Speaker 1: So high gdpeoper capita countries, not surprisingly, by the way,
- 1:32:40Speaker 1: have very very low rates of poverty. Low GDP per
- 1:32:46Speaker 1: capita countries have very high rates of poverty. And when
- 1:32:51Speaker 1: you look at the same country, when they go from
- 1:32:55Speaker 1: load GDP per capita, the gptep deeper capita, what you
- 1:33:03Speaker 1: get is a reduction in the number of people who
- 1:33:05Speaker 1: are very poor, which means growing GDP in particular, growing
- 1:33:12Speaker 1: gpt pt per capita is a good thing, and it
- 1:33:18Speaker 1: would do from the perspective of poverty. It's a good
- 1:33:20Speaker 1: thing put from other perspectives, but from the perspective of poverty. Now,
- 1:33:25Speaker 1: if you look here on the left, the top left
- 1:33:28Speaker 1: graph is for the world global average, and you can
- 1:33:32Speaker 1: see that poverty is very low today and it's directly
- 1:33:39Speaker 1: related to the fact that gdpaper capita has gone up.
- 1:33:45Speaker 1: Western Europe basically has no poverty, no extreme poverty, and
- 1:33:49Speaker 1: that's because Western Europe hit high levels of gdpeople capita
- 1:33:56Speaker 1: very early. On the top right top right, which I
- 1:34:03Speaker 1: know you can't see because I'm blocking it. You'll just
- 1:34:06Speaker 1: have to believe me, is US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand
- 1:34:11Speaker 1: and there. Yeah. And the interesting thing is that you know,
- 1:34:18Speaker 1: Western Europe and the United States eradicated poverty and relatively
- 1:34:22Speaker 1: low gdpiper capital levels, which means there's no extreme poverty,
- 1:34:28Speaker 1: there's no extreme inequality, if you would call it that,
- 1:34:33Speaker 1: versus other places where you might have an average number
- 1:34:37Speaker 1: that is high, but there's massive inequality and you still
- 1:34:40Speaker 1: have poor people.
- 1:34:43Speaker 2: As a consequence.
- 1:34:47Speaker 1: East Asia, for example, you see more of that South
- 1:34:50Speaker 1: and Southeast Asia. So Southeast Southeast is at the rate
- 1:34:54Speaker 1: of GDP that they have, Yeah, it's they're not quite
- 1:34:59Speaker 1: at the level away the West eradicated poverty. So if
- 1:35:02Speaker 1: you look at sub Sahuva Africa, if you look at Middi,
- 1:35:04Speaker 1: Eastern North Africa, if you look at Eastern Europe, if
- 1:35:07Speaker 1: you look at East Asia, South and Southeast Asia, Latin
- 1:35:10Speaker 1: American Caribbean also exactly the same thing, exactly the same.
- 1:35:17Speaker 2: Phenomena.
- 1:35:20Speaker 1: Let me just do this.
- 1:35:29Speaker 2: They all show a declining poverty.
- 1:35:33Speaker 1: So I don't know what these the growths are talking about.
- 1:35:40Speaker 1: I have no idea, you know what what is? I
- 1:35:46Speaker 1: don't know what they're talking about. In other words, no idea.
- 1:35:51Speaker 1: And these graphs completely refute whatever you could argue economic policies.
- 1:36:00Speaker 1: Oh those are the graphs? Still not seeing them? Right?
- 1:36:05Speaker 1: What did I do? You guys arguing with Jonatan who
- 1:36:28Speaker 1: is a massive distorta of of Israel And yeah, all right, anyway,
- 1:36:38Speaker 1: no point. Uh, let's see all right, that, my friends,
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- 1:44:23Speaker 1: Central Park is run by a private entity, if private
- 1:44:26Speaker 1: developers wanted to build a skyscraper in Central Park, the
- 1:44:29Speaker 1: city would never allow it.
- 1:44:31Speaker 2: Is it possible?
- 1:44:32Speaker 1: Under less ife, some dense urban cities would have little
- 1:44:36Speaker 1: or no green spaces. I mean it's unlikely. Again, Central
- 1:44:43Speaker 1: Park was created by private people. They bought the land,
- 1:44:48Speaker 1: They created Central Park and they organized it into a
- 1:44:52Speaker 1: nonprofit dedicated to keeping it a park. So you know,
- 1:45:00Speaker 1: it's in its charta, it's in its creation. You know,
- 1:45:04Speaker 1: you can't turn it into something else, right. So but
- 1:45:11Speaker 1: in a las Efei economy, you'd still have the ability
- 1:45:15Speaker 1: to create a nonprofit profit with charta that assigned it
- 1:45:21Speaker 1: that kind of role and responsibility. I you know, I
- 1:45:25Speaker 1: doubt that you would have cities with no parks. Parks
- 1:45:28Speaker 1: a real value. And look again, in the nineteenth century
- 1:45:31Speaker 1: or twentieth century, as New York is growing significantly, rich
- 1:45:35Speaker 1: people figured that a park would be an immense value
- 1:45:39Speaker 1: to them. And look, it's a big chunk of Manhattan.
- 1:45:43Speaker 1: Central Park is huge, and it's not just Central Park.
- 1:45:46Speaker 1: If you walk through Manhattan, you will find parks in
- 1:45:50Speaker 1: a number of different places, and many of them private.
- 1:45:53Speaker 1: Same thing in London. London is filled with parks, and
- 1:45:57Speaker 1: some of the parks, I think most of the parks
- 1:45:58Speaker 1: in London and public of the parks are private, you know.
- 1:46:03Speaker 1: And some of the parks are so private that they
- 1:46:06Speaker 1: gated and you can't get in unless you're a resident
- 1:46:08Speaker 1: of the block and paying into the maintenance of the park.
- 1:46:12Speaker 1: So all kinds of things would arrive in a in
- 1:46:16Speaker 1: a free market, But as long as people value parks,
- 1:46:20Speaker 1: there would be parks. So it's it's a question of
- 1:46:25Speaker 1: the value open spaces half for people, and history suggests,
- 1:46:32Speaker 1: particularly for wealthy societies, that once people get to a
- 1:46:36Speaker 1: certain wealth and an urban situation, they value open spaces.
- 1:46:42Speaker 1: They have vacation homes, but they value that surrounding greenery
- 1:46:46Speaker 1: and that's why they invest in things like parks. So
- 1:46:49Speaker 1: my view, private cities would be very green, would be
- 1:46:53Speaker 1: very green. Private cities in the sense of everything was privatized.
- 1:47:10Speaker 1: All right, help a Campbell. Do you think people who
- 1:47:14Speaker 1: are better looking don't have to develop as much personality
- 1:47:18Speaker 1: or intellect? People naturally gravitate around them with less effort
- 1:47:23Speaker 1: on their part. More those just open up for them.
- 1:47:26Speaker 1: I don't understand what that means. Don't have to develop
- 1:47:33Speaker 1: as much personality intellect for what? For what? I mean,
- 1:47:40Speaker 1: what is the purpose of life? If it's for happiness
- 1:47:45Speaker 1: and success and achieving great values, not just what comes easy,
- 1:47:50Speaker 1: but great values, then of course they need to develop
- 1:47:54Speaker 1: a personality and intellect. Looks have nothing to do with that.
- 1:47:58Speaker 1: If you're asking, does some things come more easily to
- 1:48:02Speaker 1: good looking people? Yeah, probably be they come easy, So
- 1:48:10Speaker 1: how important? How great are they? Women who care about
- 1:48:14Speaker 1: looks or men who care about looks will gravitate. They
- 1:48:18Speaker 1: words good looking people, But are those the people you
- 1:48:21Speaker 1: most care about? That is, those the people you want
- 1:48:27Speaker 1: around you now gravitate towards you, But are they the
- 1:48:30Speaker 1: ones you want? Yeah? I mean, if you're a decent
- 1:48:35Speaker 1: human being or what's that live a happy, long life,
- 1:48:40Speaker 1: do you want to be surrounded by people who care
- 1:48:42Speaker 1: about looks? And yeah, maybe in a job interview, if
- 1:48:48Speaker 1: you're about the same level of somebody else and you're
- 1:48:51Speaker 1: good looking and they're not, you might get the job.
- 1:48:53Speaker 1: Maybe there's a bias like that. Okay, but then can
- 1:48:56Speaker 1: you live up to that job? And then can you
- 1:48:58Speaker 1: advance and can you push yourself? At some point your
- 1:49:01Speaker 1: looks are not going to get you a very far.
- 1:49:06Speaker 1: So No, I think some things come easier for them.
- 1:49:12Speaker 1: But often because they're easy, they're not that valuable. And
- 1:49:17Speaker 1: because they're easy, you have to question whether the kind
- 1:49:24Speaker 1: of thing like companionship is that it's the kind of
- 1:49:28Speaker 1: people you want.
- 1:49:30Speaker 2: I mean, I don't understand that.
- 1:49:32Speaker 1: I mean, looks have they're important to some extent, right,
- 1:49:36Speaker 1: aesthetics has value, aesthetical appeal has value. Beauty has value,
- 1:49:45Speaker 1: but it's certainly not the only thing of value, and
- 1:49:47Speaker 1: it's not that high of a value when you're considering friendship, love,
- 1:49:55Speaker 1: you know, romance, long term relationships. It's just who cares. Right,
- 1:50:03Speaker 1: So the physical aspect might have some appeal to people,
- 1:50:08Speaker 1: But the people who has appeal to are those the
- 1:50:10Speaker 1: people you want to attract. Probably not.
- 1:50:14Speaker 2: Do you want that superficiality?
- 1:50:16Speaker 1: Probably not? So, of course they have to develop personality
- 1:50:21Speaker 1: and intellect because they value themselves.
- 1:50:24Speaker 2: You're not measured by how many people.
- 1:50:27Speaker 1: You know attract it to you, gravitate towards you.
- 1:50:30Speaker 2: You're measured by what you do with your life, and.
- 1:50:33Speaker 1: Now requires developing a personality an intellect, Liam said, General
- 1:50:40Speaker 1: Patten said, quote, if everyone is thinking alike, then somebody
- 1:50:44Speaker 1: isn't thinking.
- 1:50:46Speaker 2: Yes, that's a great quote.
- 1:50:50Speaker 1: But if reality is what it is, honest, people should
- 1:50:53Speaker 1: be thinking alike consistent constantly.
- 1:50:55Speaker 2: No, because I mean.
- 1:50:57Speaker 1: About simple things, about things that are self evident. But
- 1:51:02Speaker 1: thinking is not self evident. Thinking is complicated. What relevant?
- 1:51:07Speaker 1: What facts are relevant? You know? Yeah? Just so think
- 1:51:12Speaker 1: about even science? Right, So when Newton comes out with
- 1:51:15Speaker 1: his laws. It takes a long time to convince everybody's right.
- 1:51:20Speaker 1: It's not simple, it's not easy. You have to show
- 1:51:23Speaker 1: them experimentally, you have to show them in the math.
- 1:51:26Speaker 1: You have to look at it, figure it out. Ultimately
- 1:51:28Speaker 1: they all come to agree. But you know, there's certain
- 1:51:36Speaker 1: things that are perceptually evident that we can all immediate agree.
- 1:51:39Speaker 1: But anytime you have to, you have to really engage
- 1:51:41Speaker 1: in thinking context, context of knowledge, you know, and and
- 1:51:50Speaker 1: and and just the effort you put into it is
- 1:51:53Speaker 1: going to determine you know, and you're not going to
- 1:51:56Speaker 1: agree in the What pattern is referring to is somebody
- 1:52:02Speaker 1: looking at the new fact, somebody expanding the context, somebody
- 1:52:07Speaker 1: thinking beyond it. Mean we're talking about complex problems like
- 1:52:10Speaker 1: in war, somebody thinking about a possibility nobody else thought of.
- 1:52:15Speaker 1: Because there, you know, there's no end to the number
- 1:52:21Speaker 1: of variations of things that can happen, particularly if you're
- 1:52:24Speaker 1: trying to predict the future, which is what strategy is.
- 1:52:32Speaker 1: So there's always another angle, there's always more to do. Now,
- 1:52:37Speaker 1: maybe the new person who comes to the new thought
- 1:52:40Speaker 1: is proved to be wrong, and then he joins everybody else,
- 1:52:44Speaker 1: but life and reality and truth is not that simple.
- 1:52:51Speaker 2: It's not that simple.
- 1:52:54Speaker 1: I don't think Liam was talking about the majority. Wasn't
- 1:52:57Speaker 1: talking about voting. That's not the issue is if reality,
- 1:53:01Speaker 1: if truth is simple, why don't everybody just see it
- 1:53:04Speaker 1: and then it's true? So wouldn't you have consensus? It's
- 1:53:07Speaker 1: about building discovering something is true. It's hot not easy, James.
- 1:53:13Speaker 1: How many condos did you tour before settling on the
- 1:53:16Speaker 1: one you purchased? How did you know this one was
- 1:53:19Speaker 1: the right one? Oh? I mean different homes that I bought.
- 1:53:27Speaker 1: I've toured different numbers of ones. Sometimes it's the last
- 1:53:32Speaker 1: one your tour that you fall in love with. Sometimes
- 1:53:35Speaker 1: it's the first one. I have certain standards of what
- 1:53:38Speaker 1: I want, and I take them here in Puerto Rico.
- 1:53:43Speaker 1: When we were looking how many condos did we see
- 1:53:46Speaker 1: when we first rented in this building, I don't know,
- 1:53:50Speaker 1: four five, and you know, and we had two that
- 1:53:54Speaker 1: we wanted, and you know, and we made it off
- 1:53:57Speaker 1: on both and we landed up with this one, which
- 1:53:59Speaker 1: turned out be the better choice by far. And then
- 1:54:02Speaker 1: when we were going to buy, what we really wanted
- 1:54:05Speaker 1: was to buy the penthouse in the building we were rented.
- 1:54:08Speaker 1: We were renting in, so we knew exactly what we
- 1:54:12Speaker 1: wanted and it wasn't available, so we looked around. So
- 1:54:20Speaker 1: they're not that many good buildings in San Juan, so
- 1:54:23Speaker 1: we looked around four, five, six places, and we knew
- 1:54:26Speaker 1: which one we preferred those and there's also an issue
- 1:54:29Speaker 1: of what you can afford. And then luckily the penthouse
- 1:54:32Speaker 1: in the building we were renting became available and we
- 1:54:34Speaker 1: immediately bought it. So we placed a bid the date
- 1:54:38Speaker 1: became available.
- 1:54:40Speaker 2: So I don't know, I mean, how did you know
- 1:54:46Speaker 2: it was?
- 1:54:46Speaker 1: What the do right? One? Because it is consistent with
- 1:54:50Speaker 1: the things that you value. I mean we valued size
- 1:54:55Speaker 1: and relatively high ceilings and a great view and lots
- 1:54:59Speaker 1: of wind and light.
- 1:55:02Speaker 2: That's what we value. That's what we got. So we
- 1:55:06Speaker 2: have the you know, I think we have the best.
- 1:55:10Speaker 1: View in Puerto Rico, or at least in San Juan,
- 1:55:13Speaker 1: in the city, but I'm sure anyway, but it's it's
- 1:55:18Speaker 1: we having a magnificent place.
- 1:55:19Speaker 2: So it was easy.
- 1:55:20Speaker 1: By the way, when we saw it, it was it
- 1:55:23Speaker 1: was it was crummy. I mean, the place was badly maintained,
- 1:55:28Speaker 1: It had walls in the wrong places, it had to be.
- 1:55:32Speaker 1: We had to do significant renovation to the to the
- 1:55:35Speaker 1: main living space to turn it into what we wanted,
- 1:55:39Speaker 1: because you know, we like flow, and we like open
- 1:55:43Speaker 1: spaces and we like the views. And it had a
- 1:55:46Speaker 1: kitchen that blocked the view and walls that blocked the
- 1:55:50Speaker 1: spaces for no good reason. So we moved everything around.
- 1:55:53Speaker 1: We moved the kitchen to a different place, in order
- 1:55:55Speaker 1: to create the condo we wanted. We knew the potential
- 1:56:01Speaker 1: that it had, and it is indeed gorgeous. Not you
- 1:56:06Speaker 1: have a jagorithm Part one. I was speaking to some
- 1:56:09Speaker 1: moderate conservative friends of mine and they were saying how
- 1:56:12Speaker 1: public housing projects should be moved out of certain neighborhoods.
- 1:56:16Speaker 1: I replied, public housing should be abolished altogether. It didn't compute,
- 1:56:23Speaker 1: as though my comment was so beyond the pale they
- 1:56:26Speaker 1: couldn't process it. Seriously, Yeah, I think that's right. So altruism,
- 1:56:30Speaker 1: I mean, what do you mean, what will those people do?
- 1:56:33Speaker 2: You know, where will they live? How would they live?
- 1:56:36Speaker 1: How can they survive without the state, you know, making
- 1:56:39Speaker 1: it possible for them. I mean, everybody holds that there
- 1:56:42Speaker 1: was there's a tiny minormity of people who actually believe
- 1:56:47Speaker 1: that a free market would generate better outcomes, and that
- 1:56:50Speaker 1: a free market is the right thing to do. And
- 1:56:53Speaker 1: in morality, the morality doesn't require your sacrifice of the
- 1:57:00Speaker 1: sake of those who in need, but that's.
- 1:57:04Speaker 2: What it requires.
- 1:57:09Speaker 1: So they can't think. They can't think outside of that.
- 1:57:13Speaker 1: They can't think outside of altruism. Altruism dictates their whole
- 1:57:17Speaker 1: approach to public policy. It's why you can't cut the security, Medicaid,
- 1:57:22Speaker 1: you can't touch the office state, you can't touch public housing.
- 1:57:26Speaker 1: There's all these things that are third rail in politics.
- 1:57:29Speaker 1: They all are directly related to altruism directly. All right,
- 1:57:49Speaker 1: Christmas says, who thinks the show should take advantage of
- 1:57:52Speaker 1: that view? The problem with that is you can't really
- 1:57:54Speaker 1: appreciate the view through the camera. But also there'd be
- 1:57:58Speaker 1: a lot of light behind me. I would be shadowed,
- 1:58:01Speaker 1: right because the light is coming in through the windows.
- 1:58:03Speaker 1: So if the camera is facing the window and I'm
- 1:58:05Speaker 1: standing in front of the window, the lighting is all
- 1:58:08Speaker 1: messed up. The lighting would be all messed up. So
- 1:58:14Speaker 1: it wouldn't work well to have the view as the
- 1:58:17Speaker 1: background of the show. I mean, I would love to
- 1:58:20Speaker 1: have that. Plus the view is in the master bedroom
- 1:58:24Speaker 1: and in the living area the office. I have a
- 1:58:27Speaker 1: view here, particularly in sunset. It's pretty nice, but mostly
- 1:58:31Speaker 1: your buildings. And then in the distance you can see
- 1:58:34Speaker 1: old San Juan and the and so the Cruse ships
- 1:58:37Speaker 1: and then and again the sunset is pretty coldious, but yep,
- 1:58:47Speaker 1: all right. Nature Observer says when FABRI five was active,
- 1:58:52Speaker 1: I asked it about vegetation on Baffin Island in the Arctic,
- 1:58:57Speaker 1: but it refused to answer because the question had by
- 1:59:00Speaker 1: biological content. That's pretty stupid. I got an answer from
- 1:59:04Speaker 1: a lower level grass moss, et cetera. That's pretty funny.
- 1:59:10Speaker 1: That really is pretty funny because you think that their
- 1:59:14Speaker 1: ability to calibrate what constitutes a you know, bio potentially
- 1:59:20Speaker 1: bioterrorist question would be more sophisticated than just anything biological.
- 1:59:25Speaker 1: Don't answer unless there's something growing. I mean, this is suspicious.
- 1:59:30Speaker 1: Maybe there's something growing on baff And Island. Maybe there's
- 1:59:33Speaker 1: something growing on Baffin Island that is a biological weapon,
- 1:59:36Speaker 1: just like that. Maybe the et cetera that you have
- 1:59:40Speaker 1: listed the grass moss, et cetera, maybe some part of
- 1:59:43Speaker 1: that et cetera which it won't list the lower version,
- 1:59:47Speaker 1: and which Fable five would list, is in and of
- 1:59:51Speaker 1: itself a biological weapon. Anyway, I'm kidding, but the whole
- 1:59:56Speaker 1: thing is a little ridiculous. All right, guys, to thank Wes.
- 2:00:01Speaker 1: There he is Wes for the fifty dollars sticker. Think
- 2:00:04Speaker 1: you think you thank you. Wes has come through. We're
- 2:00:06Speaker 1: still seventy five dollars short of where we need to be.
- 2:00:10Speaker 1: If stickers one dollar, five dollars, two dollars, ten dollars,
- 2:00:15Speaker 1: you know, whatever you can would be great. If we
- 2:00:17Speaker 1: can just chip away. We've got a few more minutes
- 2:00:19Speaker 1: of the show. We're already in the third hour, which
- 2:00:22Speaker 1: would make the ask three hundred and seventy five dollars.
- 2:00:26Speaker 1: But let's just if you could make it the second
- 2:00:28Speaker 1: hour ask, that would be great. So the chip away
- 2:00:32Speaker 1: at this Roman asked El Gazali seems to be the
- 2:00:35Speaker 1: Islami amount of ocn No, not really, I mean because
- 2:00:39Speaker 1: amount of a con was a philosopher who presented a
- 2:00:43Speaker 1: new philosophy. He articulated an entire system of philosophy. The
- 2:00:48Speaker 1: covers pretty everything, and he did it philosophically. El Gazali
- 2:00:55Speaker 1: basically rejects philosophy in the name of religion, so it
- 2:00:59Speaker 1: would be life. Thomas aquinas bet Thomas Aquina is coming
- 2:01:04Speaker 1: to conclusion we should abandon all reason and embrace only
- 2:01:08Speaker 1: religion and mysticism. That's kind of what Algazai does. He
- 2:01:14Speaker 1: doesn't build a philosophical system to undermine reason and to
- 2:01:19Speaker 1: undermine right, you know, the Enlightenment.
- 2:01:25Speaker 2: The Islamic Golden Age.
- 2:01:26Speaker 1: He says, stop philosophy, stop dealing with phosphy, stop looking
- 2:01:32Speaker 1: at the Greeks, stop looking at fawn coaches. Everything you
- 2:01:37Speaker 1: need is in the Qur'an. Focus on, focus on faith
- 2:01:44Speaker 1: and mysticism sees the poor man's Yeah, he cons but
- 2:01:51Speaker 1: and look, a lot of bad things were happening during
- 2:01:55Speaker 1: this period in the Islamic world, so you can't just
- 2:01:58Speaker 1: blame Gozali for it.
- 2:01:59Speaker 2: I mean, there was.
- 2:02:01Speaker 1: A lot of political upheaval during this period, a lot
- 2:02:04Speaker 1: of different a lot of fragmentation, a lot of fighting
- 2:02:09Speaker 1: between different elements. There was always in the Islamic world
- 2:02:13Speaker 1: an element of uh called it extreme religiosity or religiosity
- 2:02:19Speaker 1: that I wanted to uh you know, really, I wanted
- 2:02:29Speaker 1: to crush these values that were coming in from Greece
- 2:02:32Speaker 1: that was always an element within.
- 2:02:36Speaker 2: Also, you know, it was being conquered by outside powers.
- 2:02:39Speaker 1: The certain Turkish tribes came in even very early on,
- 2:02:43Speaker 1: way before the Ottomans, and then the Mongols. The Mongols
- 2:02:46Speaker 1: really did a did a piece of work on on
- 2:02:49Speaker 1: Central Asia and all the way to Iok. So there
- 2:02:53Speaker 1: were a lot of challenges to the Golden Age of Islam.
- 2:03:00Speaker 1: August Ali was one of them. There was also a
- 2:03:02Speaker 1: whole Sufi movement that rose up of Islamic mystics, which
- 2:03:07Speaker 1: august Ali became a part of. So there were a
- 2:03:09Speaker 1: lot of challenges. It's not you can't lay it at
- 2:03:11Speaker 1: the at the feet of one just one man, although
- 2:03:15Speaker 1: he was bad. Remo, what do you think the main
- 2:03:19Speaker 1: reason behind the success of the Austrian school generally being
- 2:03:23Speaker 1: very pro capitalist is the margin? Is it the marginal
- 2:03:26Speaker 1: revolution or the role of the entrepreneur or deduction? So
- 2:03:33Speaker 1: my question is what do you think the reason behind
- 2:03:36Speaker 1: many Austrian economists being good in economics and generally being
- 2:03:40Speaker 1: very po capulist. Well, I mean the reason for that
- 2:03:43Speaker 1: is is Menga, I mean, the founder of the Austrian School.
- 2:03:47Speaker 1: He founded the Austrian School and not all the Austrian economists.
- 2:03:50Speaker 1: To Austrians, it's not it's not the geographic area, it's
- 2:03:54Speaker 1: it's the founder. And then the people who leverage that
- 2:03:58Speaker 1: founding the marginal evolution can lead in various directions.
- 2:04:02Speaker 2: As he did.
- 2:04:03Speaker 1: Mango was just one of the people discovering marginal kind
- 2:04:07Speaker 1: of the module of an marginal idea in economics. There
- 2:04:12Speaker 1: were others who then led to ultimately to the neo
- 2:04:14Speaker 1: classical tradition in economics. But Mango was very good. He
- 2:04:18Speaker 1: was Aristatilian. He was an Aristatilian thinker. He was focused
- 2:04:22Speaker 1: on reality. He spoke a lot about methodology, uh and
- 2:04:27Speaker 1: and and and how to how to think about economics.
- 2:04:30Speaker 1: And I think he just had a good methodology. He
- 2:04:33Speaker 1: had he had good ideas. He was an individualist and
- 2:04:36Speaker 1: an Aristatilian, and that set set the movement. And then
- 2:04:42Speaker 1: people who studied under him were influenced by his free
- 2:04:45Speaker 1: market thinking and by his good methodology. And you had
- 2:04:49Speaker 1: economists like von Bowick who was a student of his,
- 2:04:53Speaker 1: and then you got miss who was this genius who
- 2:04:57Speaker 1: was a student of Bobwik. So it's the people who
- 2:05:00Speaker 1: applied these ideas that started with Manga two questions, and
- 2:05:07Speaker 1: they were very connected to.
- 2:05:08Speaker 2: Reality and they were free marketers.
- 2:05:11Speaker 1: So what happened was, you know, the whole system of
- 2:05:15Speaker 1: Austin economics is built on the principles of free markets.
- 2:05:19Speaker 1: The marginal revolution can also be applied to was applied
- 2:05:23Speaker 1: by other people to justify state intervention, like you know,
- 2:05:27Speaker 1: as it was in part of the Neoclassical So it's
- 2:05:30Speaker 1: not the marginal revolution in and of itself, although it's
- 2:05:33Speaker 1: really really important. It's the way Manga understood it, and
- 2:05:37Speaker 1: the way he understood the world around him, and then
- 2:05:40Speaker 1: what he taught to students, and then what his students
- 2:05:43Speaker 1: got out of it, and when what they taught their students.
- 2:05:46Speaker 1: It's an intellectual movement. Thank you, Remo, and then Ribasa's
- 2:05:51Speaker 1: value for value. Thank you with a little bit extra Bonnie,
- 2:05:54Speaker 1: thank you for the sticker. Really appreciate it. More people
- 2:05:57Speaker 1: should do.
- 2:05:57Speaker 2: What Bonnie just did a dollar sticker. Any nine sense.
- 2:06:01Speaker 1: If enough of you do that, we make the target easy.
- 2:06:06Speaker 1: All right, Roman, Will Trump be in state sanctions against Russia?
- 2:06:10Speaker 2: Probably not.
- 2:06:12Speaker 1: You want to keep all prices low. And uh, he's
- 2:06:16Speaker 1: he's Putin's best bud. Why why would he sank in Russia?
- 2:06:19Speaker 2: But we'll see.
- 2:06:21Speaker 1: I don't know, not you have a j algorithm on
- 2:06:25Speaker 1: graveyards an irrational waste of land. In a irrational society,
- 2:06:29Speaker 1: wouldn't everybody be cremated?
- 2:06:31Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 2:06:32Speaker 1: I mean, some families like to go to a grave site.
- 2:06:37Speaker 1: It presents an opportunity to remember particular person, you know,
- 2:06:43Speaker 1: it's it's a it's just a it's a it's a
- 2:06:45Speaker 1: way to connect to their memory. So I don't know.
- 2:06:50Speaker 1: I don't know. If an irrational world there would be
- 2:06:52Speaker 1: no graves and we would commemorate the ashes in a
- 2:06:56Speaker 1: un on the on the windowsill. You know, maybe maybe
- 2:06:59Speaker 1: that's enough. I think it really depends on It really
- 2:07:03Speaker 1: depends on what people want, what people what we book
- 2:07:10Speaker 1: care about, and to what extent is the memory of
- 2:07:13Speaker 1: the person who died important to them and do they
- 2:07:15Speaker 1: need a physical representation of it or not. Exit. Thank
- 2:07:22Speaker 1: you for the sticker, Harrison, thank you for the sticker.
- 2:07:25Speaker 1: And Linda, thinking of the sticker, we're doing ninety nine
- 2:07:28Speaker 1: one night, one nine and two dollars. That's great. So,
- 2:07:32Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of stickers like that can make
- 2:07:34Speaker 1: a huge difference. We don't have a lot of time.
- 2:07:36Speaker 1: We're almost done run it says, this is so depressing.
- 2:07:41Speaker 1: He's talking about Trump. Yes, very very depressing, But then
- 2:07:45Speaker 1: it's Trump, So what what else do you expect? Harrison
- 2:07:49Speaker 1: Anthropic is also trying to decode or read the internal
- 2:07:54Speaker 1: activity of lllms in real time. Look up Spouse auto
- 2:07:59Speaker 1: and code and the Golden Gate neuron. Oh wait, I'll
- 2:08:04Speaker 1: look them up, but I'm not sure understand even what
- 2:08:07Speaker 1: that is. There's a lot of interesting things going on
- 2:08:10Speaker 1: with AI. We'll be talking a lot more about it
- 2:08:14Speaker 1: in the future. Tie time ore something like that. Thoughts
- 2:08:18Speaker 1: on Haberman's New York Times Epstein file peace, I haven't
- 2:08:22Speaker 1: seen that. I'll look for it if I have anything
- 2:08:31Speaker 1: interesting to say comment on it. Oh, this is about
- 2:08:38Speaker 1: the panic in the White House. You know, I didn't
- 2:08:40Speaker 1: read it, because God, what's the point. I mean, I
- 2:08:44Speaker 1: just be accused of more tds. But it doesn't surprise me.
- 2:08:49Speaker 1: The funny thing is that they were panicking about the
- 2:08:53Speaker 1: release of the the Epstein files because of its implications
- 2:08:57Speaker 1: on Trump, and indeed we have and got all the
- 2:09:00Speaker 1: files because Trump is mentioned in a lot of other
- 2:09:02Speaker 1: files and so on, and there was a lot of panic.
- 2:09:05Speaker 1: I don't think they needed a panic. The reality is
- 2:09:07Speaker 1: nobody really cares because Trump basically everybody knows he's a
- 2:09:12Speaker 1: sleezbag and nobody cares. So whatever Trump did, whatever's disclosed
- 2:09:18Speaker 1: in those files that Trump did, his loyal following doesn't care.
- 2:09:24Speaker 1: And most Americans don't like him anymore anyway. He's not
- 2:09:26Speaker 1: that popular, so I don't think it's had an impact.
- 2:09:31Speaker 1: It's more of an inside the Beltway thing and more
- 2:09:34Speaker 1: of a yeah, the White House is a fade of
- 2:09:37Speaker 1: bad press, but bad press doesn't affect Trump. The people
- 2:09:42Speaker 1: who like him like him. That's it.
- 2:09:43Speaker 2: They know how bad he is and they still like him.
- 2:09:48Speaker 2: Loan the center.
- 2:09:49Speaker 1: First, the Council of Scholars approved the approved candles, and
- 2:09:53Speaker 1: now bear more trizole or whatever its name is. What
- 2:09:58Speaker 1: wonders will they allow us next?
- 2:10:00Speaker 2: You know, I don't know.
- 2:10:01Speaker 1: Maybe that's that pill that you're take and you live
- 2:10:03Speaker 1: one hundred years longer. It's possible.
- 2:10:06Speaker 2: Maybe maybe that allows that.
- 2:10:11Speaker 1: All right, Moulten's Splendid just came in with a fifty
- 2:10:15Speaker 1: dollars question. Thank you, Molten splendor really really appreciate that.
- 2:10:21Speaker 1: So now we are only seventy dollars away from our
- 2:10:24Speaker 1: target seventy so another fifty dollars and a twenty dollars
- 2:10:27Speaker 1: and we're done. But this is the last question, and
- 2:10:30Speaker 1: this somebody comes in. Well Splendor says, you have mentioned
- 2:10:33Speaker 1: that some of the Austrian economics were anarchists. Most of
- 2:10:39Speaker 1: the modern most of the modern Austrian economists are indeed anarchists.
- 2:10:45Speaker 1: I am starting a haz Lit book and wondering if
- 2:10:49Speaker 1: I would run into these sentiments. If not Haslet, which
- 2:10:54Speaker 1: ones fit this problem?
- 2:10:55Speaker 2: No, Haslet.
- 2:10:56Speaker 1: Haslet is not an anarchist. Has it is you know
- 2:11:00Speaker 1: ends which book you're starting. But economically one lesson is excellent.
- 2:11:04Speaker 1: How's that is unfortunately very conventional when it comes to
- 2:11:06Speaker 1: morality and anything philosophical. Even though he knew iron Ran
- 2:11:10Speaker 1: and Red iron RAN's works, it never had an impact
- 2:11:12Speaker 1: on him, which is which is uh uh too bad.
- 2:11:20Speaker 1: But the reality is that the early Austrians were not anarchists.
- 2:11:32Speaker 1: Mesus was not an anarchist, Hasla was not. It's really
- 2:11:35Speaker 1: the post rothbod so Marii, Rothbard, Hope and pretty much
- 2:11:41Speaker 1: all of the almost all of the economists that call
- 2:11:45Speaker 1: themselves Austrian today in academia anarchists. Some of them make
- 2:11:49Speaker 1: a big deal out of their anarchy. Somebody only make
- 2:11:52Speaker 1: some of the money, make a little deal out of
- 2:11:54Speaker 1: their anarchy.
- 2:11:55Speaker 2: But all of them anarchists.
- 2:11:56Speaker 1: All of them believe that anarchy is the ideal state
- 2:12:00Speaker 1: and it's what we should what we should ultimately strive for.
- 2:12:05Speaker 1: I mean, all the names, they don't they're not popping
- 2:12:09Speaker 1: into my mind. But if you have questions about anybody specific,
- 2:12:12Speaker 1: let me know. But pretty much you can count on
- 2:12:16Speaker 1: pretty much any libertarian who post rothbod that is modern
- 2:12:27Speaker 1: libertarian today who is an economist, you can count on
- 2:12:30Speaker 1: them being a anarchist, or anybody calls themselves sorry, anybody
- 2:12:36Speaker 1: who calls himself an Austrian economist is likely to be
- 2:12:40Speaker 1: a anarchist.
- 2:12:41Speaker 2: And most libertarians.
- 2:12:50Speaker 1: All right, um, but yeah, if you have specific questions,
- 2:12:56Speaker 1: feel free to ask them. All right, everybody, Thank you
- 2:12:58Speaker 1: all the super chatters.
- 2:13:00Speaker 2: I will see you guys tomorrow.
- 2:13:03Speaker 1: Tomorrow show is typically later, so probably four pm, maybe five,
- 2:13:07Speaker 1: we'll see, but there will be a show tomorrow, just
- 2:13:10Speaker 1: will be later than usual.
- 2:13:12Speaker 2: Because I teach and let's see what else?
- 2:13:18Speaker 1: What else do we have?
- 2:13:20Speaker 2: Yeah, no other announcements. I will see you all tomorrow.
- 2:13:25Speaker 2: Have a great day.
- 2:13:26Speaker 1: By everybody,