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- 0:11Speaker 1: Stop right, want red.
- 0:30Speaker 2: That's what you do when somebody disrespects you, That's what
- 0:33Speaker 2: you do.
- 0:34Speaker 1: Right there, Well done, cal Raleigh. You're gonna walk and
- 0:39Speaker 1: left it again to me.
- 0:40Speaker 3: You want this all right, I'll give it to you.
- 0:47Speaker 1: Paring and Ancie on the call last night of cal
- 0:50Speaker 1: Raleigh's Grand Slam home run. Big part of that story
- 0:55Speaker 1: carry Francona, the Reds manager, intentionally walked on Cans in
- 1:00Speaker 1: front of him to load the bases, even though he
- 1:02Speaker 1: had a lefty lefty matchup. Raleigh on the first pitch
- 1:06Speaker 1: makes Francona pay. Hopefully it gets him going. Obviously, it's
- 1:10Speaker 1: been a very frustrating year for the Big Dumper. But
- 1:15Speaker 1: when you're a first place team, which they are this morning,
- 1:18Speaker 1: and your franchise player has played as poorly as he has, man,
- 1:24Speaker 1: if he can just get going the rest of the
- 1:26Speaker 1: way sixty one games to play, then yes, all the
- 1:31Speaker 1: goals are still there to achieve, right there for the taking.
- 1:34Speaker 1: Thanks to Mariners TV for the call last night of
- 1:38Speaker 1: the Grand Slam. It was an eight to nothing blowout
- 1:41Speaker 1: of the Cincinnati Reds. It was actually very uncomfortable. At
- 1:44Speaker 1: one point, George Kirby had done his part, but the
- 1:47Speaker 1: offense had not shown up against Andrew Abbott. It was
- 1:50Speaker 1: one nothing going into the bottom of the seventh, and
- 1:53Speaker 1: for some reason, Dan Wilson took George Kirby out of
- 1:56Speaker 1: the game after eighty pitches. Still has him been exploed
- 2:00Speaker 1: to me, and so they went to a bullpen with
- 2:04Speaker 1: Nick Devilla getting the ball in the seventh, and we
- 2:08Speaker 1: weren't sure if Munjos was available or Spire or Bizardo,
- 2:12Speaker 1: and it just was Bizardo to watch George get taken
- 2:16Speaker 1: out of that game. But it all worked out eight
- 2:18Speaker 1: nothing the final score. So the Mariners have won three straight.
- 2:21Speaker 1: They're back over five hundred and fifty one and fifty.
- 2:23Speaker 1: They jumped the Texas Rangers last night to move into
- 2:26Speaker 1: first place in the American League West by a very
- 2:29Speaker 1: slim margin, and they faced the exact same team tonight,
- 2:33Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Reds. Even though the Reds are going to
- 2:35Speaker 1: be throwing their best pitcher at US arguably, and that
- 2:38Speaker 1: is Chase Burns, the All Star and one of the
- 2:41Speaker 1: most talented pitchers in all of Major League Baseball, we'll
- 2:44Speaker 1: counter with the veteran and former Cincinnati Red Luis Castillo. First,
- 2:48Speaker 1: pitch there is at six forty. We are four days
- 2:51Speaker 1: from training camp. Our training camp prep continues today at
- 2:55Speaker 1: seven thirty. As a matter of fact, Sounders they will
- 2:58Speaker 1: return to the pitch tomorrow taking on Austin the Fighting
- 3:02Speaker 1: Matthew mcconaugheyes, the Sounders actually played a match before the
- 3:06Speaker 1: World Cup came to an end, and I think they
- 3:08Speaker 1: wish they wouldn't have. They lost to Portland five to one,
- 3:12Speaker 1: So they're going to try to get back on the
- 3:13Speaker 1: right track tomorrow against Austin. Storm fell to Olivia Miles
- 3:18Speaker 1: in the Minnesota Lynx last night one oh five to
- 3:21Speaker 1: one oh two, And of course we all remain on
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- 4:06Speaker 1: I think joining us now on the program as somebody
- 4:10Speaker 1: that's we want to make sure we get to chat
- 4:12Speaker 1: with near the trading deadline every single year. He's the
- 4:16Speaker 1: former Reds general manager and he's pretty much become all
- 4:20Speaker 1: of our general managers here at the trading deadline. In
- 4:23Speaker 1: the sports media world, he's an analyst and insider for
- 4:27Speaker 1: CBS Sports also The Athletic and he has a very
- 4:30Speaker 1: interesting article out the five trades that he's looking forward
- 4:34Speaker 1: to that he'd like to see happen between now and
- 4:37Speaker 1: the trading deadline. Jim Bowden joins us here on Chuck
- 4:40Speaker 1: in the Mornings. Hello, Jim, how are you?
- 4:43Speaker 4: I'm doing fine, Chuck? How are you this.
- 4:45Speaker 1: Great happy trade deadline season? I mean you're like me.
- 4:48Speaker 1: I mean this is like a holiday for you and
- 4:50Speaker 1: I so I'll buy you a cake. I got your
- 4:53Speaker 1: card and hopefully they get in the mail soon.
- 4:56Speaker 2: Yeah. You know what, it's a lot of fun, isn't it.
- 4:58Speaker 2: I mean, we got thirteen days left and August third,
- 5:01Speaker 2: at six o'clock, it's over.
- 5:03Speaker 4: And this year is a.
- 5:04Speaker 2: Little bit different than anyone that I've ever been associated
- 5:07Speaker 2: with or covered, because we've never seen so many teams
- 5:11Speaker 2: that are within striking distance of the wild card in
- 5:13Speaker 2: both leagues, and a lot of teams are really on
- 5:17Speaker 2: the fence of what they're going to do and haven't
- 5:19Speaker 2: made their decision yet, and so you know, we're gonna wait.
- 5:22Speaker 2: Probably that final week is going to be very, very
- 5:24Speaker 2: fascinating to see what actually transpires. So it could go
- 5:28Speaker 2: either way. We could have a real busy one or
- 5:30Speaker 2: we could have a real quiet one.
- 5:31Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of where I wanted to start, and
- 5:34Speaker 1: you've already touched upon it. But it's understandably slow right
- 5:38Speaker 1: now for all the reasons that you just mapped out.
- 5:41Speaker 1: You've been here before in similar situations where maybe the
- 5:45Speaker 1: market wasn't ready to pop. I mean, are we gonna
- 5:48Speaker 1: be looking at like the last forty eight hours before
- 5:51Speaker 1: anything really happens, or do you think we'll start to
- 5:53Speaker 1: see a few things trickle out here in the next
- 5:55Speaker 1: week or so?
- 5:57Speaker 2: I think I think starting next week, we'll start to
- 6:00Speaker 2: see activity. I think it's going to be I think
- 6:02Speaker 2: a lot of teams are going to wait till this
- 6:04Speaker 2: weekend is over, and then by the time we get
- 6:06Speaker 2: the next Monday or Tuesday, I think we're going to
- 6:08Speaker 2: start seeing decisions being made and then we'll see how
- 6:11Speaker 2: that how the domino effects works, right, because everyone's kind
- 6:15Speaker 2: of watching the Detroit Tigers right now to see if
- 6:17Speaker 2: they're going to have a good week and get back
- 6:19Speaker 2: in it, or if School's going to get traded, because
- 6:21Speaker 2: obviously he'll be the headliner if that happens. You know,
- 6:24Speaker 2: we know the Mets are going to sell, and so
- 6:26Speaker 2: that process has begun and started, so that's fun to watch.
- 6:30Speaker 2: But we're all waiting to see what the Blue Jays
- 6:31Speaker 2: are going to do. They're not playing very well and
- 6:34Speaker 2: they have some pieces like Kevin Gosman and Shane Bieber
- 6:36Speaker 2: and Dalton bar show that they could be moving. So
- 6:39Speaker 2: you know, we are waiting on some teams to figure
- 6:41Speaker 2: out which way they're going to go, which will make
- 6:44Speaker 2: it very very interesting at the end.
- 6:45Speaker 1: I noticed in your five trades you'd like to see
- 6:48Speaker 1: happen for the athletic you did not have a Trek's
- 6:51Speaker 1: Schooble trade in there. What do you think is going
- 6:55Speaker 1: to end up being Trek Scooble's future.
- 6:58Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's interesting. I didn't do school just
- 7:01Speaker 2: because everybody has written, including me, is written about it
- 7:03Speaker 2: since May, and so how many times do people want
- 7:06Speaker 2: to see the same stuff over and over again?
- 7:09Speaker 4: You know?
- 7:09Speaker 2: You know, I do think if he has traded, you know,
- 7:12Speaker 2: teams like Atlanta, the Dodgers even though they deny it,
- 7:15Speaker 2: the Yankees, even though they deny it, Tampa Bay, you know,
- 7:19Speaker 2: I think those are kind of the front running team's
- 7:21Speaker 2: Cubs could make a play there as well. But the
- 7:23Speaker 2: team that lines up the best with Detroit is going
- 7:25Speaker 2: to be the Dodgers, even though they're downplaying it. The
- 7:29Speaker 2: fact is the Dodgers farm system is so.
- 7:32Speaker 4: Loaded right now.
- 7:33Speaker 2: The trading for Schooble is so easy because when you
- 7:37Speaker 2: have four or five outfield prospects at the level that
- 7:39Speaker 2: they have that really profile to be all star caliber players,
- 7:43Speaker 2: trading one or two of them is not a big
- 7:45Speaker 2: deal for them, and they're twenty starting pitchers deep, it's
- 7:49Speaker 2: not that hard to trade, you know, someone that's on
- 7:53Speaker 2: like on your eighth or ninth on your priority list,
- 7:55Speaker 2: so it's pretty easy for the Dodgers to put together
- 7:58Speaker 2: a package that satisfies that the Tigers. And you know,
- 8:01Speaker 2: if you're trying to win three World championships in a row,
- 8:04Speaker 2: you might as well get greedy at the end. So
- 8:06Speaker 2: I still think they're going to be the front runners
- 8:08Speaker 2: to land him.
- 8:09Speaker 1: I love to see Milwaukee. I love to see schoobl
- 8:11Speaker 1: and miss in the same rotation for the playoffs.
- 8:14Speaker 4: Me too. Yeah, be great for baseball, wouldn't it.
- 8:16Speaker 1: Yeah. Jim Bowden is with US former MLBGM and of
- 8:21Speaker 1: course works in the media now, and pretty much we
- 8:23Speaker 1: all lean on him this time of the year for
- 8:25Speaker 1: his insight, and I do like your work. I love
- 8:28Speaker 1: all of your suggestions, except the most recent one about
- 8:31Speaker 1: the Mariners. You and your article have George Kirby to
- 8:35Speaker 1: the San Francisco Giants for Casey Schmidt and Eric Miller.
- 8:40Speaker 1: I think we could get a lot more if we
- 8:42Speaker 1: were to move George, and frankly, Jim, I don't want
- 8:44Speaker 1: to move George, not the way he's pitching right now.
- 8:47Speaker 1: He finally seems to be living up to that billing
- 8:50Speaker 1: that we all thought he would get to. He could
- 8:52Speaker 1: be a legitimate ace in this league. So not only
- 8:55Speaker 1: do I not want to move him, I think we
- 8:56Speaker 1: could get a lot more for him in that Why
- 8:59Speaker 1: does this trade make sense to you?
- 9:00Speaker 4: Though?
- 9:02Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean the reason I kind of looked that
- 9:05Speaker 2: did that deal is because in talking to Jerry Depoto
- 9:08Speaker 2: the last time, the president of the Mariners, he said
- 9:10Speaker 2: his biggest needs is a right hand.
- 9:11Speaker 4: Hitter because you guys.
- 9:14Speaker 2: Struggle so much against left handed pitching, and another high
- 9:17Speaker 2: leverage reliever. So I tried to find a way to
- 9:20Speaker 2: get those two pieces to satisfy him. And there's just
- 9:24Speaker 2: such a scarcity of right hand hitters that are available
- 9:28Speaker 2: in both leagues. You know, Philadelphia's been trying to get
- 9:31Speaker 2: one since April. It's just not there. So I was
- 9:34Speaker 2: trying to find a way. And then, you know, I
- 9:36Speaker 2: looked at Casey Schmidt, who's having his breakout year at
- 9:39Speaker 2: age twenty seven, young guy in his prime. He's got
- 9:42Speaker 2: nineteen home runs on his way to thirty. So I
- 9:46Speaker 2: was thinking, Okay, thirty home run bad. How would he
- 9:48Speaker 2: fit with Seattle. Well, the fact that he can play first, second, third, right, left,
- 9:52Speaker 2: can play all over the diamond means that Seattle could
- 9:55Speaker 2: plug him in wherever they felt, wherever Dan Wilson thought
- 9:58Speaker 2: the biggest need was. And then Miller's a guy that
- 10:01Speaker 2: your last eight appearances, he hasn't given up a run,
- 10:04Speaker 2: He doesn't walk anybody, he punches everybody out. I mean,
- 10:06Speaker 2: he's just been so frigging dominant. So I was just
- 10:10Speaker 2: trying to think, Okay, if I put Miller in the
- 10:12Speaker 2: back end with for getting.
- 10:13Speaker 4: The Mounez and then.
- 10:15Speaker 2: You put Schmidt's thirty home run bat in the middle
- 10:18Speaker 2: on a team that's twenty seventh and run scored fifteenth
- 10:22Speaker 2: in home runs, that you know, maybe those two pieces
- 10:27Speaker 2: help you win. Yeah, lose the trade, but win, you know.
- 10:32Speaker 2: And that so that was the thinking behind it. Also
- 10:36Speaker 2: that you know what Kirby's control is two.
- 10:38Speaker 4: And a half years left.
- 10:39Speaker 2: You have Kate Anderson in the minor leagues, if quite frankly,
- 10:42Speaker 2: it's major league ready now. If you put him in
- 10:44Speaker 2: your rotation, you have another dominant top of the rotation.
- 10:46Speaker 4: Starter right now.
- 10:48Speaker 2: And you already have five starters, so you're six d
- 10:51Speaker 2: plus you got slow in coming. And so yeah, I
- 10:55Speaker 2: just tried to, okay, if the Giants were going to
- 10:57Speaker 2: give up, you know, Schmidt and Miller. You know, what
- 11:00Speaker 2: would they go to take for them to do that?
- 11:03Speaker 2: And so yeah, I certainly I think it's an overpay
- 11:06Speaker 2: in terms of quality in the trade, but the two
- 11:09Speaker 2: pieces make the difference anyway. That was a thinking behind him.
- 11:11Speaker 1: All right, all right, I got it. What about there's
- 11:14Speaker 1: a there's a rumor out there, not even a rumor,
- 11:17Speaker 1: kind of a suggestion. More so, Kirby straight up for
- 11:21Speaker 1: Mason Miller. Does that make sense to you at all?
- 11:25Speaker 4: Not for not for San Diego. It doesn't like I
- 11:28Speaker 4: You know, first.
- 11:29Speaker 2: Of all, I like Miller more than Kirby. Killer is
- 11:32Speaker 2: the best closer in the game, and he's impactful. And
- 11:36Speaker 2: if the Padres are.
- 11:37Speaker 4: Going to trade Mason Miller, they need.
- 11:39Speaker 2: Four players back. They don't they don't need one controllable
- 11:44Speaker 2: player for two and a half years. They need four
- 11:47Speaker 2: players back, five years of control and kind of reboot.
- 11:52Speaker 2: So if they were to trade Miller, the package needs
- 11:54Speaker 2: to be prospects rather than a one for one major
- 11:58Speaker 2: league type deal.
- 11:59Speaker 1: Well, you have the prospects too, So do you think
- 12:03Speaker 1: it makes sense for the Mariners then to put together
- 12:06Speaker 1: a prospect package for Mason Miller?
- 12:09Speaker 2: I would make a run at Miller no matter who
- 12:11Speaker 2: I was, just because he's so dominant.
- 12:14Speaker 4: So I would love it.
- 12:15Speaker 2: But I think Seattle's big, bigger problem is offense and
- 12:18Speaker 2: scoring runs. I think you have a pitching to win. Look,
- 12:21Speaker 2: I've said this, I've said this on Fouled Territory ten
- 12:25Speaker 2: days ago. I said the Mariners are going to win
- 12:27Speaker 2: the Al West and they're going to run.
- 12:28Speaker 4: Away with it. And everybody's kind of looked at me.
- 12:31Speaker 2: And said, well, you know, you've seen the standings, and
- 12:34Speaker 2: I said, yeah, but here's what I know. In August
- 12:37Speaker 2: and September, the team with the best pitching wins, and
- 12:41Speaker 2: Seattle's rotation is such that they will beat up They
- 12:45Speaker 2: will beat up the teams in August and September and
- 12:48Speaker 2: win it. The other thing is the offense is better
- 12:51Speaker 2: than what they've performed. I when's the last time hobly
- 12:53Speaker 2: Ardriguez at a home run? When's the last time cal
- 12:56Speaker 2: Raley was cal Raley like, you know, there's your two superstars,
- 12:59Speaker 2: and what production are we getting out of them? So
- 13:02Speaker 2: the talent is way better than the production. You're not
- 13:06Speaker 2: getting it out of it.
- 13:06Speaker 1: You know.
- 13:07Speaker 2: I went to the Seattle games when they came down
- 13:10Speaker 2: to Miami just before the All Star break and they
- 13:13Speaker 2: just look flat, and I was like, what is going
- 13:15Speaker 2: on with this team? It kind of reminded me of
- 13:17Speaker 2: the Phillies in Red Sox in early April, like you
- 13:19Speaker 2: see all this talent, but it's like, what are you
- 13:21Speaker 2: guys doing? So I'm hoping that this recent kind of
- 13:25Speaker 2: winning streak here three wins in a row. I hope
- 13:28Speaker 2: that's the beginning of a run here because Seattle is
- 13:31Speaker 2: way better than how they're playing. But I do think
- 13:33Speaker 2: you need another bat, and I'll stand by that. I
- 13:36Speaker 2: think you got to go get one.
- 13:38Speaker 1: One bat that you did trade in your article is
- 13:41Speaker 1: Hunter Goodman. Now, obviously we have Kyl Rawley, but I
- 13:44Speaker 1: don't know if Hunter Goodman. I mean, he's a bat.
- 13:50Speaker 1: We do have a DH spot in this league right now.
- 13:54Speaker 1: Is there any reason that you can come up with
- 13:57Speaker 1: that if he's the best bat on the market and
- 13:59Speaker 1: we've got draft trade capital, Uh, is there a fit
- 14:02Speaker 1: there for the Mariners and Hunter Goodman who you have
- 14:05Speaker 1: going to the Boston Red Sox right now?
- 14:08Speaker 4: Sure?
- 14:08Speaker 2: Absolutely, I would love Goodman. And you know you can
- 14:12Speaker 2: have Rally catch five and Goodman catch two.
- 14:15Speaker 4: Right or something like that. And with the other one DH.
- 14:17Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm definitely a fan of Goodman that love the power.
- 14:21Speaker 2: He's not a course field hitter. The power is going
- 14:23Speaker 2: to translate outside of course. And yeah, I think he
- 14:27Speaker 2: would be.
- 14:27Speaker 4: A real solid trade target for them. I do like that.
- 14:30Speaker 2: Yes, I I don't know how Goodman would react. You know,
- 14:34Speaker 2: here's a guy that's an everyday catcher being told that
- 14:36Speaker 2: you're a DH. Now, I don't know how that plays,
- 14:39Speaker 2: and that's something you have to at least bake into
- 14:41Speaker 2: your decision. The cost, obviously is going to be huge,
- 14:44Speaker 2: and it's going to probably cost you Kate.
- 14:46Speaker 4: Anderson to have the conversation. Oh boy, oh boy.
- 14:50Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, oh yeah. He just made a little
- 14:52Speaker 1: bit sitting there right in my own arm pits there. Yeah.
- 14:57Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 14:58Speaker 2: And I wouldn't do that, by the way, I would
- 15:00Speaker 2: trade Kane Anderson.
- 15:01Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. All right, We'll pass on
- 15:03Speaker 1: Goodman then, but you do have him going to Boston,
- 15:06Speaker 1: I mean makes sense of that story. Here. We were
- 15:09Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago trying to figure out, I mean,
- 15:11Speaker 1: do we want Wilson Contreras possibly as a right handed
- 15:15Speaker 1: hitter for this lineup, would you take on the headache
- 15:19Speaker 1: that is Wilson Contreras and what he can be sometimes
- 15:22Speaker 1: and what does he do? His brand of leadership has
- 15:25Speaker 1: led them on a fourteen game winning streak, and they're
- 15:28Speaker 1: sitting there as hot as anybody, the hottest team in
- 15:31Speaker 1: Major League Baseball right now. So they've kind of gone
- 15:34Speaker 1: in a very short order from what looked to be
- 15:36Speaker 1: a surefire seller to a surefire buyer right now.
- 15:39Speaker 4: Jim, Yeah, I mean yeah.
- 15:41Speaker 2: A month ago we were talking about Sonny Gray and
- 15:44Speaker 2: Wilson Dintreras and rold As Chapman all being traded in
- 15:47Speaker 2: and in fact Craig Breslow the GM, according to reports
- 15:51Speaker 2: that I have not confirmed, but according to reports, he
- 15:54Speaker 2: had a rolled his chatman traded to the White Sox
- 15:56Speaker 2: for a top prospect, and the Red Sox ownership.
- 15:58Speaker 4: Nixed the deal.
- 16:00Speaker 2: That's how close they were to being sellers. Wow, they
- 16:02Speaker 2: literally had an agreement. But now we sit they've won
- 16:06Speaker 2: fourteen in a row. They're buying, they're not selling. They're
- 16:09Speaker 2: trying to get a bat and I don't know, I
- 16:10Speaker 2: don't know if I would do anything right now the
- 16:12Speaker 2: way they're playing. I mean, they have just been on fire.
- 16:15Speaker 2: And I've never seen Fenway Park this exciting since the
- 16:17Speaker 2: last time they were in the playoffs. Like the is
- 16:21Speaker 2: an amazing energy going on right now at Fenway Park.
- 16:24Speaker 2: They just can't seem to lose a game. And so
- 16:27Speaker 2: you know, the last time they won fourteen in a
- 16:28Speaker 2: row is nineteen forty eight. Nineteen forty eight. I mean,
- 16:32Speaker 2: that's just it's remarkable what this team has been doing
- 16:34Speaker 2: under Chad Tracy.
- 16:36Speaker 1: Jim Bowden is with us. And I'll just close with this.
- 16:38Speaker 1: Rather than kick the tires on another possible trade or
- 16:42Speaker 1: trade piece, I would just ask you, from your years
- 16:45Speaker 1: of pulling off trades and getting close to the deadline
- 16:49Speaker 1: and it's such a crazy year, how difficult is that decision?
- 16:53Speaker 1: You know, you've got this deadline looming where you have
- 16:55Speaker 1: to decide as a general manager whether or not you're
- 16:58Speaker 1: going to go for it or if you're gonna punt.
- 17:01Speaker 1: And just because you do punt, I mean, look at
- 17:03Speaker 1: the Tigers a year ago what they did. They decided
- 17:08Speaker 1: to punt, and they still ended up nearly going to
- 17:11Speaker 1: the World Series for goodness sake, So just talk about
- 17:15Speaker 1: the decision, how difficult, gut wrenching. It is organizationally to
- 17:20Speaker 1: try to determine whether or not it's time to sell
- 17:23Speaker 1: or buy at this time of the year.
- 17:26Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great question, and I'm going to tell
- 17:28Speaker 2: you that for me, it was never agonizing and it
- 17:31Speaker 2: was never difficult. I you know, my my mentors that
- 17:35Speaker 2: I looked up to in my era were two Hall
- 17:38Speaker 2: of Fame executives, Pat Gillick and John Schurcholtz. Those those
- 17:42Speaker 2: are the two that when I was growing up in
- 17:45Speaker 2: the game that I studied and watched, and both of them,
- 17:49Speaker 2: you know, taught me not to ever get emotional in
- 17:52Speaker 2: making decisions, and always have a pulse of what your
- 17:55Speaker 2: team is and be realistic. Don't don't get emotional the
- 17:59Speaker 2: two weeks before the trade deadline. If your team gets
- 18:02Speaker 2: in a winning streak or a losing streak, you should
- 18:04Speaker 2: know what your team is. You should know if your
- 18:07Speaker 2: team is better than your record or worse than your record.
- 18:10Speaker 2: You should know what your team is capable of doing
- 18:13Speaker 2: between now and the end of the season. You shouldn't
- 18:15Speaker 2: be having to watch the games the last two weeks
- 18:19Speaker 2: of the trade deadline to.
- 18:20Speaker 4: Make those decisions. You just shouldn't. You should know what
- 18:24Speaker 4: to do or what not to do. So I guess
- 18:26Speaker 4: that's how I would respond to you, Like if you're.
- 18:29Speaker 2: In Seattle's case, I can tell you that is the
- 18:32Speaker 2: best team in the AO West and they will win
- 18:34Speaker 2: the division if they do nothing. Now do I look
- 18:37Speaker 2: at this team and say what I like a right
- 18:39Speaker 2: hand bat and a reliever like Jerry Depoto has already
- 18:42Speaker 2: said publicly, including on my radio show, Yes, I would
- 18:46Speaker 2: agree with him completely. And that's what I would be
- 18:48Speaker 2: trying to buy if I was Seattle, if I was Detroit,
- 18:52Speaker 2: I would be realistic. I'm not winning the World Series
- 18:54Speaker 2: regardless of what happens the rest of the way. I'm
- 18:57Speaker 2: not going to get emotional, and I'm not going to
- 18:59Speaker 2: let Terreik's go will walk for a draft pick. I
- 19:01Speaker 2: am trading the player.
- 19:03Speaker 4: So if I win five in a.
- 19:04Speaker 2: Row right now and I get within a game of
- 19:07Speaker 2: the playoffs, I am trading the player because that's not emotional.
- 19:12Speaker 2: I know what my team is.
- 19:13Speaker 4: I'm gonna be realistic and I'm going to.
- 19:15Speaker 2: Understand that I'm here to be the steward of the franchise,
- 19:19Speaker 2: not to win in any specific year, but to be
- 19:22Speaker 2: here for the long term. And to be there for
- 19:25Speaker 2: the long term. You got to win this year and
- 19:26Speaker 2: next year and the year after, so make your decisions
- 19:29Speaker 2: based on that, not based on a two week time period.
- 19:32Speaker 1: Love it, love it. Thank you, Sarah. We appreciate it.
- 19:35Speaker 1: Enjoy the holiday, and it's always great to catch up
- 19:39Speaker 1: with you.
- 19:41Speaker 4: Thanks. Jack, appreciate it all right.
- 19:42Speaker 1: Jim Bowden joining us right here on the radio program here.
- 19:46Speaker 1: You can follow him at Jim Bowden GM and he's
- 19:49Speaker 1: got that brand new article out with The Athletic, which
- 19:53Speaker 1: is the five trades he'd like to see. I didn't
- 19:55Speaker 1: want to give him all away, so you can go
- 19:57Speaker 1: do some reading read up on Jim Boden. But I
- 20:00Speaker 1: actually did like his response because I hate the George
- 20:02Speaker 1: Kirby trade that he put together with the San Francisco Giants.
- 20:06Speaker 1: But at least it made sense when he said, he goes, yeah,
- 20:10Speaker 1: I think that the Mariners aren't getting the better of
- 20:12Speaker 1: this trade. But does it mean that you become a
- 20:17Speaker 1: better team right now because you've filled in your holes
- 20:21Speaker 1: and you have starting pitching depth. Okay, okay, I can
- 20:24Speaker 1: at least I understand where you're coming from. I still
- 20:27Speaker 1: don't make that move. I still want to win the trade.
- 20:30Speaker 1: I still don't want to just rely. I mean, because
- 20:34Speaker 1: Casey Schmidt comes over here and gets hurt and then
- 20:36Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know we lost the trade.
- 20:40Speaker 1: We knew we lost the trade in the big picture
- 20:43Speaker 1: for this guy that satisfies this one specific need that
- 20:47Speaker 1: we have, and now he's not available to us, or
- 20:51Speaker 1: he magically like every other hitter that comes here that
- 20:54Speaker 1: apparently dominates left handers and can't hit a lick. We've
- 20:58Speaker 1: given up George Kirby for that. If Casey Schmid had
- 21:01Speaker 1: a little better of a track record as a hitter
- 21:04Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball, maybe I'd be more interested. But
- 21:07Speaker 1: this is the first time he's ever come close to
- 21:09Speaker 1: solving major league hitting or major league pitching this season,
- 21:12Speaker 1: and that's one that I'm just not interested in.
- 21:15Speaker 5: No, I don't like it either, and especially I don't
- 21:17Speaker 5: even like the idea of losing the trade just to
- 21:20Speaker 5: make us better.
- 21:20Speaker 3: Now.
- 21:21Speaker 5: I know that I would have to consider it, but
- 21:23Speaker 5: I don't like the idea of that. I want to
- 21:25Speaker 5: win a trade to be better. Now, how about that.
- 21:26Speaker 1: I think we can have both. I think we can
- 21:28Speaker 1: I think we can win a trade. I mean, you know,
- 21:31Speaker 1: you want to give them something that helps them. That's
- 21:33Speaker 1: a good trade when it benefits both teams, right, that's fine.
- 21:37Speaker 1: I don't have to just laughingly win the trade, but
- 21:41Speaker 1: I yeah, I not only want to get better this year,
- 21:44Speaker 1: but I also want to win the trade. Yes, So
- 21:47Speaker 1: I appreciate gim Bode always interesting, always fascinating stuff there.
- 21:50Speaker 1: Hadn't even considered Hunter Goodman until we started having a
- 21:54Speaker 1: conversation there. So we'll talk more about that a little
- 21:57Speaker 1: bit later on in the show. But coming up next,
- 21:59Speaker 1: we're four days to training camp and it's time to
- 22:01Speaker 1: start having those conversations we're going to be having for
- 22:05Speaker 1: the next five weeks. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
- 22:09Speaker 1: Holy grail of theme songs. This like right up there,
- 22:13Speaker 1: like it just has goes so well with the show
- 22:16Speaker 1: and you hear it in the other room and you're like, oh,
- 22:19Speaker 1: our Knocks is on. And there was a time where
- 22:22Speaker 1: I was really fired up about Hard Knocks. I would
- 22:24Speaker 1: all really look forward to it. It's been a few
- 22:25Speaker 1: years since I really looked forward to it. But now
- 22:28Speaker 1: that it is going to become daily fodder, now daily
- 22:32Speaker 1: weekly fodder for us to kind of pick apart and
- 22:35Speaker 1: pour over certainly after every episode the morning after. Yeah,
- 22:39Speaker 1: that music's gonna mean more to us.
- 22:42Speaker 5: I would say even daily though, because as you guys
- 22:44Speaker 5: are out at training camp, it's going to be something
- 22:47Speaker 5: different for you guys.
- 22:48Speaker 4: Just see.
- 22:48Speaker 3: Like I'm excited, and I know that Steve.
- 22:51Speaker 1: And I are going to become best friends.
- 22:52Speaker 3: I know I can't wait for that. It's gonna be amazing.
- 22:55Speaker 5: I know that people are nervous about it, and I
- 22:58Speaker 5: can understand that you never know how it's going to
- 23:00Speaker 5: affect the team or what kind of distraction it might cause.
- 23:04Speaker 3: But I just have so much faith.
- 23:05Speaker 5: In John Schneider and Mike McDonald and what they've put
- 23:08Speaker 5: together that I don't think that they're going to let
- 23:10Speaker 5: it become a distraction. And I'm real excited to see
- 23:13Speaker 5: some behind the scenes stuff.
- 23:14Speaker 1: Well I'm unfortunately that's one of the reasons why it's
- 23:16Speaker 1: kind of faded, because it's so controlled now, Like the
- 23:19Speaker 1: team's like, Nope, you're not gonna air that, and so
- 23:21Speaker 1: they don't air that, and so it's going to be controlled.
- 23:25Speaker 1: It has been controlled. It's not as interesting as it
- 23:28Speaker 1: used to be, but it will be more interesting now
- 23:32Speaker 1: because it's going to be a look at the Seahawks
- 23:35Speaker 1: like we've never seen before and been able to discuss
- 23:38Speaker 1: the next day. So from a content standpoint, yeah, one
- 23:42Speaker 1: hundred percent thumbs up. Very excited for it and to
- 23:45Speaker 1: break it down and talk about it all the different
- 23:47Speaker 1: storylines that we normally would even be privy to. Yeah,
- 23:51Speaker 1: at training camp because we don't have that kind of access.
- 23:53Speaker 1: We don't even get that kind of access, not even
- 23:55Speaker 1: close to be able to have that. That's great, And
- 23:58Speaker 1: I don't think because it is tamer than it it's
- 24:01Speaker 1: ever been in the past, that it's going to cause
- 24:03Speaker 1: any kind of wobble or distraction. For they might be distracted,
- 24:07Speaker 1: like Mike McDonald may not like that he's in a
- 24:10Speaker 1: meeting and that there are television, right, It could be
- 24:13Speaker 1: a slight distraction, but I don't think. I mean, when's
- 24:16Speaker 1: the last time anything from Hard Knocks actually caused any
- 24:19Speaker 1: kind of drama. I don't remember the last time. It
- 24:22Speaker 1: doesn't even register well, And the last time it did
- 24:26Speaker 1: was when Rex Ryan admitted that he likes to kiss
- 24:30Speaker 1: his feet. Yeah, that was like the last time that
- 24:34Speaker 1: actually permeated through the training camp.
- 24:37Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 24:37Speaker 1: Yeah, she had a tattoo of Mark Sanchez and all
- 24:40Speaker 1: that stuff. That was like the last time And how
- 24:42Speaker 1: long ago was that?
- 24:43Speaker 3: Twelve years years time ago, a long time ago.
- 24:46Speaker 1: Before Sanchez was in jail.
- 24:48Speaker 3: Oh God, I forgot. I didn't forget about that.
- 24:50Speaker 5: I think the thing too is, I mean this this
- 24:53Speaker 5: team is used to having cameras around there, so they're
- 24:55Speaker 5: not going to be worried about the cameras.
- 24:57Speaker 3: Is it going to add a little extra something when
- 24:58Speaker 3: they're chatting or things like that.
- 25:00Speaker 5: Maybe, but yeah, it might be the bigger distraction for
- 25:03Speaker 5: the coaches in the meetings and things like that.
- 25:05Speaker 3: And I'm not too worried about that either.
- 25:07Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll handle it. They'll handle it. It's it certainly
- 25:10Speaker 1: is not going to be the difference between whether or
- 25:12Speaker 1: not we went opening Week, or we win the West
- 25:16Speaker 1: or not, or repeat a Super Bowl champs. No, it's
- 25:19Speaker 1: not going to make the difference, that's for sure. At
- 25:22Speaker 1: least it better not. But people are already having the
- 25:26Speaker 1: conversations and this week as we get ready for training
- 25:29Speaker 1: camp and our coverage is going to start on Monday,
- 25:31Speaker 1: and it sounds like Hugh Mellon's going to be back
- 25:33Speaker 1: to like full time, not full time, but you know,
- 25:37Speaker 1: next next week we might have them for all four
- 25:39Speaker 1: hours of the show on Monday, so like we used
- 25:44Speaker 1: to do back in the old days. So that's a
- 25:47Speaker 1: possibility for our coverage on Monday. It looks like that's
- 25:50Speaker 1: going to happen. But certainly, we have things that we
- 25:54Speaker 1: do every training camp here on this show. We have
- 25:58Speaker 1: our talk of camp, and we've got battles that we
- 26:01Speaker 1: do on a daily basis. And this year we're gonna
- 26:04Speaker 1: have the Hard Knocks thing that we will also be
- 26:07Speaker 1: weaving in to our programming. And people have already started
- 26:12Speaker 1: to get ahead of it with who are going to
- 26:15Speaker 1: be the stars of Hard Knocks. And I saw that
- 26:19Speaker 1: the local newspaper did it. I know that Greg's already
- 26:23Speaker 1: weighed in on this that it's going to be Witherspoon.
- 26:26Speaker 1: I mean the names that keep coming up are Witherspoon
- 26:30Speaker 1: and Barner and Donald.
- 26:32Speaker 3: I think those are three great choices.
- 26:34Speaker 1: And Donald because he's the quarterback, right but Barner and
- 26:38Speaker 1: Spoon certainly keep being brought up. So you can't use
- 26:41Speaker 1: one of those three. Give me somebody that you think
- 26:45Speaker 1: is going to become a Hard Knocks star, because it's
- 26:49Speaker 1: not always based on how good a player you are
- 26:52Speaker 1: or how funny you are. It's just sometimes just the
- 26:55Speaker 1: story you have to tell, or maybe it's your family's funny.
- 27:00Speaker 1: You never know who they're going to follow around, who
- 27:03Speaker 1: they're gonna suddenly have interest in. So give me somebody
- 27:07Speaker 1: that you think is going to become a hard knock star.
- 27:09Speaker 1: And I haven't read anybody else's lists, okay, and I
- 27:11Speaker 1: did that intentionally. So if I repeat what they say
- 27:14Speaker 1: and it's a given and it's obvious, I apologize. But
- 27:17Speaker 1: I wanted us to answer this question role.
- 27:19Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going with Ernest Jones.
- 27:21Speaker 1: Oh that's such a good one.
- 27:23Speaker 5: I think, I mean, I think that they're going to
- 27:25Speaker 5: People are going to be drawn to him. He's very energetic,
- 27:28Speaker 5: he says whatever's on his mind. Yes, and he loves
- 27:32Speaker 5: this team and he and he loves the people on
- 27:35Speaker 5: it and he will fight for them.
- 27:37Speaker 3: So I think people are going to be drawn to
- 27:39Speaker 3: him and really like him.
- 27:40Speaker 1: He has zero filter. Yeah, And if he does have
- 27:42Speaker 1: a filter, man, if he's sitting there to himself saying,
- 27:46Speaker 1: oh man, I wish I didn't have this filter, what
- 27:49Speaker 1: then what are you unfiltered? I love it, And there
- 27:52Speaker 1: will be moments that they'll be able to grab where
- 27:55Speaker 1: he's unfiltered. I had him as number two.
- 27:57Speaker 3: On my list, right, who's number one?
- 27:59Speaker 1: I think that Ernest Jones is just I don't even
- 28:03Speaker 1: think HBO realizes how entertaining is. And it's not because
- 28:08Speaker 1: I think he's hilarious. I'm not not sure if that's it,
- 28:13Speaker 1: or I think he's just so blunt, like whatever's on
- 28:18Speaker 1: his mind is coming out, and when cameras are around
- 28:23Speaker 1: the guy, they will gravitate.
- 28:24Speaker 3: Towards the guy. I would think.
- 28:26Speaker 1: So. I think Gray's Abel's gonna end up being a
- 28:29Speaker 1: star and all this. And maybe you wouldn't think that
- 28:32Speaker 1: because you know, though corn fed boy likes to chuck beer. Yeah,
- 28:37Speaker 1: maybe he would avoid the cameras and the attention. But
- 28:40Speaker 1: the way he's already talking about the rams he's been.
- 28:45Speaker 1: If I'm the Seahawks, I might even actually talk to
- 28:48Speaker 1: Grey like, well, let's let's turn that back. Yeah, I mean,
- 28:51Speaker 1: they're gonna be tough enough to beat. Let's not add
- 28:53Speaker 1: any more sauce to this.
- 28:54Speaker 3: We don't need to him up.
- 28:56Speaker 1: But he's, I mean, a year into this, feeling proved
- 29:00Speaker 1: Swaggery pretty confident, right, now and he's got that very
- 29:04Speaker 1: interesting story, and I think that there is it's not
- 29:07Speaker 1: just about the funny guy or the glamorous guy with
- 29:11Speaker 1: hard knocks. Sometimes it is the guy that is just
- 29:14Speaker 1: the lunch pale, I will crush a beer can on
- 29:18Speaker 1: my head when I'm done with it kind of guy.
- 29:21Speaker 1: And I think the cameras are gonna love Gray's abel
- 29:23Speaker 1: in his story.
- 29:24Speaker 3: I think so.
- 29:24Speaker 5: I mean, and he does just have a kind just
- 29:27Speaker 5: a nice seems like a nice guy, seems like someone
- 29:29Speaker 5: that you'd want to hang out with. And I think
- 29:32Speaker 5: that people draw get drawn into that when they're watching
- 29:34Speaker 5: that show, especially like, oh, that guy just seems like
- 29:36Speaker 5: a good dude.
- 29:37Speaker 1: Yeah, Brady Russell is hilarious. Don't sleep on Brady Russell.
- 29:42Speaker 1: He is just really fun to talk to. Like, there's
- 29:46Speaker 1: just something interesting about that guy, way beyond his ponytail. Yeah,
- 29:52Speaker 1: there's just there. He's smart and he's funny and he's
- 29:55Speaker 1: aware of everything. I think he could emerge. Think they
- 29:59Speaker 1: might falling in love with him. Jaron Reid, This just
- 30:03Speaker 1: depends on how out in the open Jaron Reid wants
- 30:06Speaker 1: to be. But he went from shy rookie when I
- 30:11Speaker 1: was here and we introduced him to the airwaves. I
- 30:14Speaker 1: think I think we had him on first hear kjar
- 30:18Speaker 1: shy rookie didn't wasn't sure he wanted to do an interview,
- 30:21Speaker 1: And now he's like the most talkative guy in the
- 30:24Speaker 1: entire league. So he could be he could be a favorite.
- 30:28Speaker 1: And then a lot of people point to Bud Clark
- 30:30Speaker 1: the rookie. But based on what I heard on draft
- 30:33Speaker 1: A julian Neil julian Neal, Seahawks might have to steer
- 30:38Speaker 1: him away from the cameras. He just really like he
- 30:42Speaker 1: kind of gives me the impression that he's like on stage,
- 30:45Speaker 1: like he's Dave Chappelle, like he wants to put on
- 30:47Speaker 1: a performance. So the Seahawks might have to steer him
- 30:51Speaker 1: away from the cameras. But he might end up being
- 30:54Speaker 1: a rather interesting person in all of this as well. Yeah.
- 30:57Speaker 5: Also, I would say Robbie utz And I don't know
- 30:59Speaker 5: if that's just because of the mustache that I think
- 31:01Speaker 5: that he's going he'd be entertaining, but I think people
- 31:03Speaker 5: will be drawn to the mustache.
- 31:05Speaker 1: Maybe it'll just be Robbie Ootz's mustache.
- 31:07Speaker 5: It might be maybe and good for them. Maybe for
- 31:10Speaker 5: him and his mustache.
- 31:11Speaker 1: Right, maybe the mustache should start an Instagram account. It
- 31:15Speaker 1: probably should get out ahead of it. Maybe it should
- 31:18Speaker 1: start dating Kylie Jenner. She seems to get a lot
- 31:20Speaker 1: of attention she does.
- 31:21Speaker 3: But Timothy Shallomy might be mad. Ye lose out to
- 31:24Speaker 3: a mustache?
- 31:25Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Challo May is trying a mustache.
- 31:28Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 31:28Speaker 1: Imagine if the Timothy Shallo May's mustache stood next to
- 31:32Speaker 1: Robbie ootz mustache one, Oh my gosh, he don't which
- 31:36Speaker 1: mustache would you rather drink with?
- 31:38Speaker 3: Robbie Ootz's exactly? Obviously?
- 31:41Speaker 1: Who's mustache? Do you want to have your back? Chalo
- 31:45Speaker 1: Mas or Ootzes?
- 31:46Speaker 3: It's exactly Oots all day.
- 31:50Speaker 1: All right. Coming up next on the radio program, we're
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- 32:29Speaker 1: Watch continues next on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJARFM.
- 32:42Speaker 1: All right, we've got a special edition of the Baseball Brunch.
- 32:45Speaker 1: We've never conducted it in more than a ten minute segment. Today,
- 32:49Speaker 1: were going to full twenty.
- 32:51Speaker 3: I feel like it's deserving Today.
- 32:53Speaker 1: Several featured guests. We want you to hear Cal Rawley's
- 32:57Speaker 1: comments from last night after the game, and also Low
- 33:00Speaker 1: and Gilbert some of his conversation with Softy yesterday as
- 33:04Speaker 1: well some interesting stuff. So we got two featured guests,
- 33:07Speaker 1: and those two hang out together all the time. You
- 33:11Speaker 1: can't separate them even if you tried. Should you imagine
- 33:14Speaker 1: starting to fight in a bar with Logan Gilbert? What
- 33:17Speaker 1: might happen?
- 33:18Speaker 5: No?
- 33:19Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to imagine, because Cal would step in
- 33:21Speaker 3: and end it quickly.
- 33:22Speaker 1: I think ad to laugh in the corner and let
- 33:24Speaker 1: Logan take one.
- 33:26Speaker 3: Oh you think?
- 33:28Speaker 5: I feel like they're basically Matt Damon and Greg kneer
- 33:31Speaker 5: and stuck on you?
- 33:33Speaker 1: Is that right?
- 33:33Speaker 4: Just attached?
- 33:35Speaker 1: All right, We're going to hear from them both in
- 33:37Speaker 1: baseball brunch a little bit later on today, But we
- 33:40Speaker 1: continue to be on Lebron watch and it continues to
- 33:42Speaker 1: anger people. I don't know why. Now, if he was
- 33:47Speaker 1: sitting there trying to drive the hardest bargain financially, maybe
- 33:50Speaker 1: I would understand why. But when you've kind of announced
- 33:53Speaker 1: to the world, I'm just looking for where I'm happiest
- 33:56Speaker 1: and where I want to write the little last chapter
- 33:59Speaker 1: of my legendary career. Well, that probably is a lot
- 34:04Speaker 1: that goes into that. Sometimes maybe it's a little easier
- 34:08Speaker 1: just to take the highest bid and then tell the
- 34:11Speaker 1: family we're moving and we can afford this much more.
- 34:15Speaker 1: But in this case, he's just trying to like trying
- 34:17Speaker 1: to find, like, all right, where where am I going
- 34:20Speaker 1: to be happy? Where's the family going to be happy?
- 34:23Speaker 1: And do I have a shot at winning a championship.
- 34:26Speaker 1: I don't think he's necessarily going to join the best,
- 34:30Speaker 1: most complete team, but I do believe that he wants
- 34:34Speaker 1: at least a shot at winning one more title and
- 34:37Speaker 1: being able to contribute to that. So That's that's my
- 34:39Speaker 1: read of it. My read also is that he does
- 34:42Speaker 1: love attention, and my read is he loves playing general manager,
- 34:46Speaker 1: and I think that's probably what's holding things up. My
- 34:49Speaker 1: guess is, and I know nothing. My guess is that
- 34:53Speaker 1: Cleveland is a really interesting destination. I mean, from a
- 34:57Speaker 1: storybook standpoint to a started there, your hometown come back,
- 35:03Speaker 1: won a championship there and then in there. That kind
- 35:06Speaker 1: of ties the bow on it, right, Yeah, And I
- 35:09Speaker 1: think that like Famili's from their wife's from there, so
- 35:14Speaker 1: everybody happy going back. He gets to finish out around
- 35:21Speaker 1: his friends. He's got a friend within the front office
- 35:24Speaker 1: of the Cleveland Cavaliers. There are a lot of things,
- 35:26Speaker 1: but it's that third element, Like who knows if Lebron's
- 35:30Speaker 1: trying to say to executives, why did you re sign
- 35:34Speaker 1: James Harden? You need to trade James Harden. And I
- 35:39Speaker 1: don't have anything against James Harden as a person, but
- 35:43Speaker 1: I'm not a very good defensive player anymore. And yet
- 35:47Speaker 1: if I join this roster right now, I'm going to
- 35:51Speaker 1: be the third best defensive player on the team. That's
- 35:56Speaker 1: not good for them, right, Like you can't to have
- 36:00Speaker 1: me Donovan and James on the same team because none
- 36:05Speaker 1: of us play defense anymore, all right, And so maybe
- 36:09Speaker 1: there's like some general managership. You check two of the
- 36:12Speaker 1: boxes that I'm looking for, But is there any way
- 36:15Speaker 1: to move Harden, like because we can't win a championship
- 36:19Speaker 1: if we don't play defense. He can't have three of
- 36:21Speaker 1: the five starters not playing defense. So who knows if
- 36:25Speaker 1: he's trying to like manipulate that he was in Miami.
- 36:28Speaker 1: It sounds like yesterday. Maybe he's talking to pat Riley.
- 36:31Speaker 1: Who else can you get us? I don't know, but
- 36:34Speaker 1: he's probably And this is where he sometimes gets in trouble.
- 36:37Speaker 1: He plays GM, and he's not very good at playing GM.
- 36:41Speaker 1: He's good at playing basketball, but not being a GM,
- 36:44Speaker 1: And so I would imagine that's what is happening here.
- 36:49Speaker 1: He's not only trying to decide with a lot of
- 36:52Speaker 1: different variables dancing around him, where I would be happiest
- 36:56Speaker 1: in my family, would be happiest closing out my last
- 37:00Speaker 1: couple of years of my NBA career, but also in
- 37:04Speaker 1: order to check all three of those boxes. Will I
- 37:06Speaker 1: be happy there? Will my family be happy there? And
- 37:09Speaker 1: do I have a shot at a title? I would
- 37:12Speaker 1: imagine he's playing a little GM to try to, you know,
- 37:15Speaker 1: tell teams I'm gonna come there. I need this and
- 37:18Speaker 1: this and this to happen, because he's not going there
- 37:21Speaker 1: for the most money possible, right, So whoever whoever does
- 37:27Speaker 1: the dance for him is probably going to earn his signature.
- 37:31Speaker 5: Yeah, I would think so, And I completely understand why
- 37:34Speaker 5: Cleveland would be a good fit. The other thing I
- 37:37Speaker 5: heard people talking about was for Golden State because he
- 37:40Speaker 5: could just fly from his home in La there, back
- 37:43Speaker 5: and forth. But it seems like he wouldn't really be
- 37:45Speaker 5: that if he'd went that way, we'd only be kind
- 37:48Speaker 5: of like half one foot in Golden State and one
- 37:51Speaker 5: foot out.
- 37:52Speaker 1: It seems like I also don't see how they win
- 37:54Speaker 1: a title.
- 37:54Speaker 3: Yeah, they're old, they are.
- 37:56Speaker 4: That is an old.
- 37:56Speaker 1: Team out there.
- 37:57Speaker 3: It would be a struggle.
- 37:58Speaker 1: So again, but maybe he's playing general manager. Who else
- 38:02Speaker 1: can you get to supplement this. We're gonna need some youth,
- 38:05Speaker 1: we're gonna need some length, We're gonna need some defense.
- 38:08Speaker 1: Who knows what I mean? There might be some of
- 38:11Speaker 1: that going on. Like before I make this final decision,
- 38:15Speaker 1: what else are you going to do on the court?
- 38:18Speaker 1: Which you know, he's meddled in that arena since he
- 38:23Speaker 1: was eighteen years old, so he's certainly going to do
- 38:26Speaker 1: it at forty two, and it probably is bogging down
- 38:28Speaker 1: the process. But because he's not worried financially, like the
- 38:32Speaker 1: money's not going to expire, because I'm not gonna take
- 38:35Speaker 1: I'm not making this decision based on money. I'm gonna
- 38:38Speaker 1: make it on what is the situation that satisfies those
- 38:42Speaker 1: three things the best. And so if that takes time,
- 38:45Speaker 1: it takes time. That's my guess. That's my guess as
- 38:48Speaker 1: to why he hasn't made his decision, because he's giving
- 38:52Speaker 1: every suitor the opportunity to create the most appealing scenario
- 38:59Speaker 1: satis find those three wishes that he can. And he's
- 39:03Speaker 1: in no rush because he's not worried about anybody's money
- 39:06Speaker 1: drying up right.
- 39:07Speaker 5: And I would also say to the people that are
- 39:09Speaker 5: annoyed by this, it's not like he's out there every
- 39:11Speaker 5: day saying, true, am I gonna go?
- 39:14Speaker 3: It's everybody else that wants to know where he's gonna go.
- 39:16Speaker 5: It's all the media people wanting to know where he's
- 39:18Speaker 5: gonna go, and all the fans wanting.
- 39:20Speaker 3: To know where he go he wants to go.
- 39:21Speaker 5: He's not out there dropping little nuggets and hints and
- 39:23Speaker 5: things like that, trying to bring attention to where he's
- 39:26Speaker 5: gonna go.
- 39:26Speaker 1: Well, he's pretty much a lot of people hate Lebron,
- 39:29Speaker 1: then they're gonna hate whatever Lebron does. True, all right,
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