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The DiCecco Daily: Impact Of Dallas Goedert's Return, How Jordan Davis Is Like Brandon Graham · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: What's up? Everyone? Welcome in. This is the check O Deli.
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: I am Andrew de Checko, Eagles beat reporter for Insidethebirds
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: dot Com, and I recorded the podcast yesterday before the
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: news came out, so we're gonna talk about it today.
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: The Eagles and tight end Dallas Goddard agreed to terms
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: on a one year deal. I believe it's reportedly worth
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: seven million, so a lot less than I thought he
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: was going to command. And those of you who have
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: listened to me and read my work on Inside the
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: Birds dot com, you probably remember early in the offseason,
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  Speaker 1: late January, early February, I was of the belief that
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: there was a chance that got or could come back,
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  Speaker 1: and then when I went to the NFL scouting combine
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  Speaker 1: at the end of February, I was never more unsure
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  Speaker 1: about that based off of what I was gathering and
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: knowing that it wasn't going to It wasn't going to
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  Speaker 1: be easy, and typically when you look at free agency,
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: the cost goes up, it doesn't go down, and teams
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: would in theory be paying for someone off of career season.
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  Speaker 1: All that being said, the Eagles delayed his void date
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  Speaker 1: of his contract. It was supposed to be last Wednesday,
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  Speaker 1: then it became Friday. They moved it Friday to Monday,
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  Speaker 1: but they reached a resolution on Sunday afternoon and they agree,
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  Speaker 1: so Dallas Goddard is back for another season. I liked
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  Speaker 1: the way that the Eagles and Dallas Goddard's side approached
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  Speaker 1: it in the sense that they extended the window to
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  Speaker 1: really work out the details and the negotiation process, and
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  Speaker 1: as Mike Garafalo reported, Goddard had other options on the table,
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  Speaker 1: but the fact that they kept extending that window, it
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  Speaker 1: kept Philly alive, I believe was the wording that he
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  Speaker 1: used there, And yeah, it kept the Eagles in play,
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  Speaker 1: but it also precluded Dallas Goddard from being a free agent,
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  Speaker 1: so he wasn't even on the open market, and he
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't have been unless something happened on Monday where they
• 2:15
  Speaker 1: had to avoid it and then take a dead cap
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  Speaker 1: hit of more than twenty million, which would have been
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  Speaker 1: a hefty chunk, needless to say, and had a lot
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  Speaker 1: of other ramifications that sort of spawned from that. And
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  Speaker 1: so it's a really good reunion from both sides. The
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  Speaker 1: Eagles and Dallas Goddard know each other well, this is
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  Speaker 1: the only place that Dallas Goddard has ever played. Drafted
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  Speaker 1: with a forty ninth overall pick in the twenty eighteen
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  Speaker 1: NFL Draft, four hundred and nine receptions for the team,
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  Speaker 1: thirty five career reception touchdown receptions for the Eagles. His
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  Speaker 1: fifty six receptions in the postseason are the most in
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  Speaker 1: team history, and I believe his five hundred and ninety
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  Speaker 1: five receiving yards are second only to Devonte Smith in
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  Speaker 1: Eagles postseason history. So this is someone who has certainly
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  Speaker 1: left his mark in Philadelphia. I talk about his rapport
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  Speaker 1: with Jalen Hurts on the field often, but also the
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  Speaker 1: culture fit in Philadelphia. Dallas Goddard understands the fans, he
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  Speaker 1: understands the city and how everything operates. And simply swapping
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  Speaker 1: him out or trying to piecemeal it together and find
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  Speaker 1: an external option, that's the great unknown, and you don't
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  Speaker 1: have an understanding of how that player is going to
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  Speaker 1: fit schematically, and also with the teammate, with his teammates
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  Speaker 1: and will they embrace the city in the same way
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  Speaker 1: that Dallas Goddard has and understand that it's not the
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  Speaker 1: easiest place in the world to play there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of there's a lot of variables that I think would
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  Speaker 1: have made it complicated bringing in simply bringing in someone
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  Speaker 1: else who's younger, who can be the tight end one,
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  Speaker 1: and kind of going from there. Dallas Goddard comes back
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  Speaker 1: to Philadelphia a year after posting a career high receptions
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  Speaker 1: in sixty and eleven touchdowns, which is the most that
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  Speaker 1: he's had in a season. And yes, he's thirty one
• 4:16
  Speaker 1: years old, so those are some of the re like
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  Speaker 1: thirty one years old, the extensive injury history, those are
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  Speaker 1: reasons why I didn't necessarily think that had he got
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  Speaker 1: to the open market, he would have had a hefty
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  Speaker 1: pay day awaiting him. It always felt to me that
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles in Dallas godd were the best pairing, but
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  Speaker 1: you never quite know. From the business side, there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of other things that are at play when you're negotiating,
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  Speaker 1: and other teams are having a chance to show their
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  Speaker 1: interest in you, and you kind of have to always
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  Speaker 1: let those things play out. But the Eagles, by extending
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  Speaker 1: the void date of his contract, created a window where
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  Speaker 1: they were able to agree to terms and it's probably
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  Speaker 1: the best on all sides. And I got asked an
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  Speaker 1: interesting question today when I called into the morning show
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  Speaker 1: on ninety seven to five The Fanatic, and I was asked,
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  Speaker 1: why do you believe that in Philadelphia Dallas Goddard has
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  Speaker 1: a ton of value? But the seven million dollars that
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  Speaker 1: he's getting this year, the one year deal, it isn't
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  Speaker 1: consummate to what you see from the more preeminent tight
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  Speaker 1: ends in the NFL. And really he's not heralded as
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  Speaker 1: highly as some of the quote unquote premiere tight ends
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  Speaker 1: in the league. You're Travis Kelcey's your George Kittles, Sam
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  Speaker 1: Laporte is a name who's starting to come around, come
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  Speaker 1: up a lot, Trey McBride, and you don't hear Dallas
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  Speaker 1: Goddard's name mentioned in that. And my response was, I
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  Speaker 1: would imagine it has to do with more from a
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  Speaker 1: national perspective. He's known as someone who's going to roll
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  Speaker 1: up six hundred, seven hundred receiving yard seasons. Does in
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  Speaker 1: factor all that much in the red zone. He hasn't
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  Speaker 1: been a vocal point per se in the offense. It's
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  Speaker 1: been sporadic over his time as the starter, and he
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  Speaker 1: took over and during the twenty twenty one season for
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  Speaker 1: zach Ertz, when zach Ertz, of course was traded to
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  Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. But I look at Dallas Goddard's career
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  Speaker 1: and in Philadelphia, it's clear the value that he has.
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  Speaker 1: It's clear the impact that he makes when he gets
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  Speaker 1: the football, and even earlier in his career, really, except
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  Speaker 1: for this season, he's also been a two way player
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  Speaker 1: where his blocking prowess has complemented his receiving ability and
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  Speaker 1: run after the catchability. But he regressed in that area
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  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. But I think it has more
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  Speaker 1: so to do with his receiving total, the lack of touchdowns.
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  Speaker 1: He was always missing two or three games a year
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  Speaker 1: because of the physical nature in which he plays the game.
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  Speaker 1: Some unfortunate injuries there, some fluky ones, but they happened,
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  Speaker 1: and I think when you factor all of that into
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  Speaker 1: the mix here, it probably it probably dampered things a
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  Speaker 1: little bit for him in terms of how he was
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  Speaker 1: perceived around the NFL. But make no mistake about it,
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  Speaker 1: and I am not just saying this because I covered
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  Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard and my vision skewed because I see him
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  Speaker 1: at training camp and I see every game. No, it
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  Speaker 1: has to do more so that I watched the entire
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  Speaker 1: NFL and I have a pretty good sense for good
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  Speaker 1: players at that position, difference makers at that position, if
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  Speaker 1: you will, and Dallas Goddard has proven that he's that guy.
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  Speaker 1: When he's healthy, that always is the caveat. But when
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  Speaker 1: he's healthy, he should be mentioned up there. Maybe not
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  Speaker 1: with the Travis Kelceys or the Kittles, but he certain
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  Speaker 1: and I don't do rankings, but he should be mentioned
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  Speaker 1: among some of the better tight ends in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: And for some reason he kind of gets lost in
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  Speaker 1: the in the mix. But that was my answer. I
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  Speaker 1: thought that it had a lot to do with just
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  Speaker 1: the overall production and not taking into context the offense,
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  Speaker 1: the style that they play, the injury history and all
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  Speaker 1: of that. But he's also thirty one years old. I
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  Speaker 1: do believe that watching how he played last season, Dallas
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  Speaker 1: Goddard has a couple of good seasons left of strong production.
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  Speaker 1: And I happen to believe that in this Shawn Mannyon offense.
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  Speaker 1: And I chuckle when I say it, because we don't
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  Speaker 1: know what a Sewn Mannyon offense is yet. We'll soon
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  Speaker 1: find out. But based off of the influences that Sewan
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  Speaker 1: Manning is coming into Philadelphia with Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVeigh,
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  Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell. Those are offensive minds who typically involve the
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  Speaker 1: tight ends a little bit more. They're creative and how
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  Speaker 1: they deploy them. They tend to roster more tight ends
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  Speaker 1: than some teams around the league, and I think with
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  Speaker 1: that information, it should give you a lot of optimism
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  Speaker 1: going into the twenty twenty sixth season that Dallas Goddard
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  Speaker 1: is going to have a more prominent role offensively. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying that he's going to have eleven or twelve
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  Speaker 1: touchdowns again, but I think a lot of it has
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  Speaker 1: to do with the quality of the targets. How is
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  Speaker 1: he being utilized. Are they giving him the I guess,
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  Speaker 1: the freedom to get vertical and do some things that
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  Speaker 1: he can do where he can break a game wide open.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't just have to be shorter intermediate passes, doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have to be him breaking a tackle and rumbling for
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  Speaker 1: thirty five yards. He provides a vertical element. He can
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  Speaker 1: be utilized in the red zone, similar to how the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles did last season. There are so many different ways
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  Speaker 1: you can get him involved and if he's able to
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  Speaker 1: dial in that blocking aspect of his game that had
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  Speaker 1: been really well balanced throughout his career, the Eagles are
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  Speaker 1: going to get a tremendous return on their investment. And
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  Speaker 1: I think it was a smart reunion on both sides.
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  Speaker 1: And I can't emphasize enough what the continuity is going
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  Speaker 1: to mean. There's always there's already so much change, new
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  Speaker 1: offensive line coach, new run designs. You have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of new faces on the offensive coaching staff, but Dallas
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  Speaker 1: Goddard has been a constant for Jalen Hurts. Their chemistry
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  Speaker 1: has been building over years and he is that security blanket,
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  Speaker 1: that's safety valve. But I think it's time to get
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more creative in how you deployed Dallas
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  Speaker 1: Goddard and the routes that he runs and involving him
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  Speaker 1: more consistently in the red zone. Last season was last season,
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  Speaker 1: but prior to that, Dallas Goddard had been sort of
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  Speaker 1: an afterthought when it came to the red zone. And
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: with somebody with that frame six foot five, he has
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  Speaker 1: the wing span, he's physical at the catch point, and
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  Speaker 1: he runs good routes. He knows how to create separation
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  Speaker 1: you would think that you would involve somebody like that
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more frequently in the red zone where
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  Speaker 1: you got to have it. But last season they did.
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: We'll see if they continue that trend. Arnold Ebiccati spoke
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: today as well, for the first time, and he had
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: something interesting to say. He mentioned talking to defensive tackle
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: Jordan Davis for thirty minutes prior to signing with the
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: Eagles to get a feel for the defense, the system,
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  Speaker 1: the fit in Philadelphia. He was trying to gauge the
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  Speaker 1: fit and if the Eagles are already getting a return
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: on their investment in extending Jordan Davis because he did
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: a hell of a job in the recruiting process. Because
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  Speaker 1: Ebicadi is in Philadelphia. And I've said this before, but
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  Speaker 1: Jordan Davis reminds me so much of a younger Brandon
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  Speaker 1: Graham in his ability to grasp the city, to embrace
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  Speaker 1: everything that's thrown his way adversity, embrace the good times
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  Speaker 1: and the bad times and try to find a positive
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  Speaker 1: in it. And the continuous improvement aspect of Jordan Davis,
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: but also the radiant personality I believe really reflects what
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: we've seen from Brandon Graham. Since he was drafted in
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia and Jordan Davis, who knows if it actually played
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  Speaker 1: a big part in it, but I thought that that
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  Speaker 1: was notable that he said that Arnold, he goes it's
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: ak at bic katie ak. But he also said that
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  Speaker 1: he became an Eagles fan when he was at Temple
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: and the Eagles won the Super Bowl in twenty seventeen.
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: I think he said he walked from Cecil B. Moore,
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: which is a building I think on Temple's campus, and
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: he walked when the Eagles won the Super Bowl, he
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: walked into the city. And I feel like a moment
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: like that probably was something that when you see that
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: kind of reaction to an event like that and everybody
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: was sort of in Unison celebrating a win, it seemed
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: to have an impact on him and he became an
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: Eagles fan. He just had a baby girl on Monday,
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: when the legal tampering period opened, and so she's a
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: week old. He already has another child, as he mentioned
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: when he spoke during his press conference. But yeah, it's
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: been a very a bit of a whirlwind for aka Abkadie.
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: And we'll see, we'll see how he fits here because
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: Like I've mentioned before, I've seen glimpses you can watch.
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: You can glean that from watching him on tape, that
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: he has developmental qualities and he's a fluid athlete. It's
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: about becoming more refined and being more consistent because the
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: talent level is absolutely there, and we'll see what Jeremiah Washburn,
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: his position coach, is able to get out of him.
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: But that was a tier above in my estimation. If
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: you're trying to draw a parallel to the Joshu sha
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: Is these ogual are signings of last season, this is
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: a notch above. But until you see how the fit
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: manifest on the field, it's hard to be able to
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: gauge the signing and say it's a home run or
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: sort of convey skepticism that wouldn't be Yeah, I like
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: the player. We'll see if the fit is right, and
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: we'll see if he's able to maximize his opportunity in Philadelphia,
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: using that one year deal as maybe a springboard towards
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: a more lucrative payday perhaps down the line. That's the
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: if you're looking for a silver lining, if you're a
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: player signing a one year deal, it's that you have
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: an opportunity here on a good football team with cornerstone
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: components on both sides of the football, to use that
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: as a launching pad to get back on NFL radars
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: to reap the benefits off of a good season.
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  Speaker 1: I'd also like to add that former Eagles cornerback Darius
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  Speaker 1: Slay just Slay. He doesn't go by Darius, It's Slay
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  Speaker 1: or Big Play, but he announced his retirement from the
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  Speaker 1: NFL after thirteen seasons on his Instagram Monday, and Slay
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: joined the Eagles in twenty twenty. If you remember, there
• 17:36
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  Speaker 1: NFL Draft of Alliance in return for Slay, and he
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: makes three Pro Bowls out of his five seasons in Philadelphia,
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  Speaker 1: has been one of the more consistent corners in recent
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: memory for this franchise. I think he was largely understood
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: from many on the outside, but I can tell you
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: that he was a consummate professional. He was a great
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: teammate who mentored younger players. They respected and looked up
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  Speaker 1: to him. He was a team captain eventually, which meant
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: the world to Slay because he had never been a
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: captain before. Great. It was just a great story of
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: him really coming into his own here in Philadelphia and
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: one of the funniest people I think I've ever talked to.
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  Speaker 1: Never he never missed an opportunity to make someone laugh,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: and sometimes it was unintentional, but he was a terrific
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  Speaker 1: interview and an impactful player on this team. He played
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: forty nine snaps in Super Bowl fifty nine, goes out
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  Speaker 1: a champion, goes to the Pittsburgh Steelers after that, But
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  Speaker 1: he's moving on and moving on to the next phase
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  Speaker 1: of his life. But I want to pay respect to
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Slay on what has been a outstanding career which includes
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: six Pro Bowls. He was an All Pro in twenty seventeen,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: and he I think was one of the more underrated
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  Speaker 1: corners in the NFL, and he just seemed to get overlooked.
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  Speaker 1: But when you look at the Eagles recent history and
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: the defenses that have come through here. Slay was a
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• 19:35
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  Speaker 1: But he provided stability and he led in his own way.
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  Speaker 1: And that's something that Christian Parker, former Eagles defensive backs
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: coach now Cowboys defensive coordinator set at one point. I
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: believe we were talking at the Super Bowl, but he
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: mentioned that, and I'll never forget. There's two things I'll
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: never forget from Slay. The Minnesota Vikings game where he
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: completely shut down justin Jefferson and what was one of
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: the more impressive performances I can remember seeing from a
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: corner and the empty gas can placed at his locker
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: by Christian Parker leading up to the postseason run where
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: it was there was a post and note attached to it,
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  Speaker 1: and it pretty much said how much gas do you
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  Speaker 1: have in your tank? Number two or something to that effect,
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  Speaker 1: and it said CP on it. That was something that
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: was sort of a something that that it seemed to
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: fuel Sleigh through it. Obviously, he had a good relationship
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  Speaker 1: with everybody, and everybody sort of there was a lot
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: of camaraderie and bonding and everything that he he he
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: seemed to bring everyone together and they all relished that
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: opportunity to go and be a Super Bowl champions and
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  Speaker 1: he was a big part of it. That's going to
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: do it for this edition of the Czech O Daily,
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Decheco and I'll catch you all on the next
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  Speaker 1: one day and