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#343: Rude Brother In Law, In Laws Inviting Boyfriend's Ex, Best Friend Dating my Ex · Pod Therapy

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  Speaker 1: Why is it this thing that like people have to like,
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  Speaker 1: let's ie like when they see it's just stupid.
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  Speaker 2: So like, no, Las Vegas, if you take out all
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  Speaker 2: the casinos, we're just a hole in another No.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's my point though, Like if you look at Vegas,
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  Speaker 1: you think, oh, that looks fun, like there's there's there's
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  Speaker 1: fun shit to do, and I get it, Like you're
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: just like, oh, that looks a good time whatever. New York.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's this impressiveness of like, holy shit, there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of big buildings and you think, Jesus, that
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  Speaker 1: is one of the biggest cities in the world and great,
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: uh the fucking Birch Khaliva in whatever, the Dalai Lama
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: place is so like you see that ship and it's like, wow,
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: that's really tall, you know, the Arabian place, you know whatever,
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  Speaker 1: the fucking tall you know talking about No, I just
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: I'm on the record with this. I'm fine with the Olympics.
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  Speaker 1: Your city is not beautiful or romantic. This smells like
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  Speaker 1: that episode is very possible.
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  Speaker 3: Our partners dirty be and Pickets from fabulous Las Vegas.
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  Speaker 3: guys at gmail dot com and now broadcasting from the Churn.
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  Speaker 3: That's Jim, that's whitney on Nick signed for some pod therapy.
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  Speaker 3: So you guys, you've never been me. No, you've never
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  Speaker 3: been there, but your opinion somehow is relevant.
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, if you look at it, it is not
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  Speaker 1: distinguishable as a unique or pretty place except for the
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: Eiffel Tower. Just wrong. And if it's not there, you know,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, it's so romantic. It just wrong. You're
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: kind of on the river. You cannot It's gross. The
• 1:41
  Speaker 1: whole thing is gross. And they know it. They know
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  Speaker 1: it's a scam. It's a fucking scam. Okay, but look,
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  Speaker 1: I I travel, like all of it. I travel.
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  Speaker 4: It was hundreds of years of like the best architecture
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  Speaker 4: in the world, like like literally for hundreds of years,
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  Speaker 4: the French would bring in the best architects on the
• 2:02
  Speaker 4: planet and have them build things in Paris.
• 2:05
  Speaker 1: Jacob, you shut up.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I went further than La Joya.
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  Speaker 1: I know I've been waiting to tell you this. I've
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  Speaker 1: been waiting I thought you were so proud of me,
• 2:18
  Speaker 1: so like you that pissed town. Yeah tower, yea. So
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  Speaker 1: for our anniversary trip, we went to Santa Barbara. Never
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  Speaker 1: been there before. That was a paris of the West coast.
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  Speaker 1: The pistol was not even detectable, and it was fine,
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  Speaker 1: like it's just it's a coastal town. Whatever. That was
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  Speaker 1: kind of interesting. What was weird is the hotel we
• 2:43
  Speaker 1: stayed at was beach facing. You could not see the
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  Speaker 1: sunset over the water because it was facing south, which
• 2:50
  Speaker 1: is weird because it turns out and I looked up
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  Speaker 1: a map, California's curved, and so there's a point where
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  Speaker 1: you can stand on it and you look at the beach.
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  Speaker 1: You're not facing west. I was facing south California.
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  Speaker 5: A weird.
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  Speaker 3: This will blow your mind. Yeah, Reno, Nevada is further
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  Speaker 3: west than LA.
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  Speaker 1: Because of the curve. Yeah, fucking weird. It's so weird.
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  Speaker 6: California is still curved.
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  Speaker 1: Bacon left. So there's this little town forty five minutes
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  Speaker 1: outside of Santa Barbara. It's called Solving. It's a Dutch town.
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  Speaker 1: Have you guys ever heard of this with the castle?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 1: No, not the castle. So this this town solving s
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  Speaker 1: O L V A ng. It is all dedicated to
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  Speaker 1: Dutch architecture. It was like, I guess, settled by the Dutch.
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  Speaker 1: And so it's this beautiful little town that looks like
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  Speaker 1: you're in dutch Land and it's really cool. And I
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  Speaker 1: had Dutch food. Okay, yeah, but take away.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, dowhere else, you guys are preaching to the choir.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, get rid of that one iconic building and it's
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  Speaker 1: a shithole, like I'm really pictures of it round now
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  Speaker 1: cut smells like piss. Oh no, a little bit, Hey
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  Speaker 1: what is that?
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  Speaker 3: What is that? Windmill? Kind of remind you of does that?
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  Speaker 3: Does that kind of one in Paris?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? I didn't even Yeah, but it was really cool.
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  Speaker 1: So I got like Dutch chocolate, like the little bakeries
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  Speaker 1: and it was it was really.
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  Speaker 2: No, it doesn't have to go overseas.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't. And that's the best the world have that.
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  Speaker 1: California doesn't not much bud like I mean, fucking yeah,
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  Speaker 1: apparently modern goddamn sewage. You know we we have that
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  Speaker 1: in America.
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  Speaker 2: Why is California Okay? But nowhere else?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Because I get to it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, would you go to Arizona.
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  Speaker 1: But I've been there, but not like for a reason,
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  Speaker 1: like you just go there like you have like business
• 4:50
  Speaker 1: or something like, Oh, I guess I have to go
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  Speaker 1: to Arizona. You get to Phoenix and you're like, all right,
• 4:54
  Speaker 1: you know, so it's like, what's your favorite place to
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  Speaker 1: go in Arizona? No place to go home after this?
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  Speaker 1: If you do, you have to go somewhere.
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  Speaker 2: You're not going to.
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  Speaker 1: Leave. Let's say you leave the state.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the state.
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  Speaker 1: Well, then I get well, I want to go your
• 5:14
  Speaker 1: what's your favorite place to India? Money is no option. Uh,
• 5:17
  Speaker 1: childcare is done. So it's just you and the wife. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're going somewhere, or it could be and a hooker. Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: thank you. Widen the options the three of you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'll have fun. That's right, dinneiversary gift. We could both enjoy.
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  Speaker 4: Where you go, the kids are taking care of maybe
• 5:34
  Speaker 4: they're was your your parents or another. Essentially you're paying
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  Speaker 4: for their time. Prostitute with the heart of gold.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they all do. Southern Cali. I want to go
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  Speaker 1: to Southern Calige. I'll do that. There's nice beaches down there.
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  Speaker 1: It's clean, good time.
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  Speaker 4: Even in the US, you have a blank to go
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  Speaker 4: anywhere in the US.
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  Speaker 1: Southern California is where you're going. Maybe Hawaii. I've heard
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  Speaker 1: it's nice, But then I also think that's bullshit, because
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  Speaker 1: like when we were on the beach, my wife's like, oh, well,
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: they want to go to Hawaii, and I'm like, just
• 6:04
  Speaker 1: stand here on the sand and look at the ocean
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  Speaker 1: and pretend you're there. Holy shit, And I'll just sit
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  Speaker 1: here and like sing fucking blue Hawaii and like, dude,
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  Speaker 1: it's the same, goddamn, it's literally the same ocean.
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  Speaker 4: You know how You know how in California you go
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  Speaker 4: to one beach and then a different beach and you're like,
• 6:20
  Speaker 4: holy shit, that other beach is a lot better than
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  Speaker 4: this beach. No, you know how that happens. Well, Okay,
• 6:25
  Speaker 4: you go to some beaches and you're like, oh this
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  Speaker 4: this beach is awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll accept that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the beaches in Hawaii are better than any of
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  Speaker 4: those beaches. Okay, any beach that you pull over on
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  Speaker 4: the side of the road just randomly, they're all beautiful.
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  Speaker 4: They're all better than anything in southern California.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, but see, I don't know that I'm telling
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  Speaker 1: you that so no, I know, but like that's.
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  Speaker 4: What you're actively arguing against it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I'm saying, like you do know it.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like Hawaii's wasted on me. Like I would go,
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  Speaker 1: money no object, take the time, go do where you
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  Speaker 1: want to go. I'd probably go to Hawaii or southern California.
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  Speaker 1: Why a pretty goodbye to see. But you said money
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  Speaker 1: is no object.
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  Speaker 4: So what I'm saying like you you were able also
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  Speaker 4: to do Hawaiian a pretty good budget.
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  Speaker 1: All right, do Spirit fly there? I think so?
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  Speaker 3: Chan I mean Southwest does so.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I probably get there. That's probably it. I'd
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  Speaker 1: probably go to one of those. I'm not going.
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  Speaker 4: The first time we went there, we did Hawaiian Airlines
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  Speaker 4: and we did like a the airline, hotel, rental car
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  Speaker 4: package all through it, okay, and it was like two
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  Speaker 4: grand for a week for the for the two of us.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, that's a really good deal. Yeah, it was quite bad.
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  Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. Well, I went to dutch Land and
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  Speaker 1: to California, so that was pretty cool. We got my
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  Speaker 1: chocolate on and I had sausages. I would like to
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: go to this place in California's pretty it does look adorable. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's uh, it was if you're going to Santa
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  Speaker 1: Barbara and you're doing the whole like because they do
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  Speaker 1: boats in Santa Barbara's like sailboating and ship and there's
• 7:50
  Speaker 1: like a wharf, so like that was pretty cool. Yeah,
• 7:52
  Speaker 1: and they have a really cool like a bar scene,
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  Speaker 1: Like there's this main street that's very waable, everything shut down,
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  Speaker 1: like so no traffic, and it's like really cool bars
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  Speaker 1: and just like really great restaurants. So that was pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: I am a big fan of southern California. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's a reason it's yeah, fucking popular. Everybody's there. It's beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, that was super cool. But I went to
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  Speaker 1: a whole new place. I'm very proud of myself. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: thank you. That's the right response.
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  Speaker 4: Wait, I want to encourage you when you when you
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  Speaker 4: exhibit good behaviors.
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  Speaker 1: Buddy, I want to encourage it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, way to think outside but pressed right up against
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  Speaker 3: the box.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, baby steps. Okay, I got outside the box.
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  Speaker 1: I get out. I'm out of it. Box is still
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  Speaker 1: in good view. Yeah I can't.
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  Speaker 3: I just wish I could have been there when he
• 8:35
  Speaker 3: explains this to his wife. Yeah, I got an idea,
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  Speaker 3: let's do something different. She's like, oh no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: still in California. Yeah, a little north across the street.
• 8:46
  Speaker 3: Are you ready to go crazy? Are you ready to
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  Speaker 3: lose your fucking mind? Applebee's Santa Barbara, let me tell you.
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  Speaker 4: She's like immediately putting in the ballgag and then he's like.
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  Speaker 1: To Dutch Barbara to see a Windmillah. Yeah, it was
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  Speaker 1: really cool. Sadly putting the ballgag away. No more ballgage,
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: but it was really cool. So did a little traveling also,
• 9:09
  Speaker 1: last note. Then I'll read questions. I got a lot
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  Speaker 1: of ticket because I always try to get one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and so I go to the gas station. I'm like hey,
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: she goes, well, how many do you want? I was like, well,
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: how many can I get on one ticket? And she's like,
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: oh huh yeah, I've never looked into that. And I'm like, okay, great,
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: I guess I'm the first guy I ever asked that
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  Speaker 1: feels efficient, you know, I feel like more than one. Whatever.
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: So she like takes a second and she comes back
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: curiously like the powerball type multi million millions, and she goes, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it says here you can get ten, and I was like, yeah, sure, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: whatever ten And she's like you want ten. I was like, yeah,
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: give me ten. She's on the same ticket. Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, what the fuck is this? Like, am
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  Speaker 1: I asking a question? I know none of us.
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  Speaker 3: You get the same ten numbers.
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  Speaker 1: I'm no, bro, she gave me one fucking number, like
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: a line, one line of numbers that works for ten
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: lives atoss. I have the same number that is going
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: to be you. That's just funny. It's fucking dumb.
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  Speaker 4: So you're just covered for like the next couple of
• 10:14
  Speaker 4: months with a lot of pay attention to lottery for
• 10:18
  Speaker 4: like two months. How great would it be if Jim
• 10:21
  Speaker 4: won the lottery and didn't realize it.
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: Dude, that's what's gonna happen. Give me ten numbers, let
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: me pay attention to the next one. Actually, you should
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: send us the I actually thought about putting a picture
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: of it on the discord because that's the only way
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to find out if I want, you know.
• 10:35
  Speaker 4: Somebody's a picture of the thing that has a barcode
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  Speaker 4: on the discord.
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't publish the thing that has Actually I don't care,
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: do whatever. You want a lot of money, so anyway,
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: A lottos are tricky, but yeah, I'm just holding on hope.
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: So every week I will let you know if I'm rich.
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: I was in l A a couple of weeks ago, and uh,
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: here my arms tied. I was.
• 10:57
  Speaker 4: I pulled into la I was very close to my
• 11:00
  Speaker 4: friend's house where I was going, and I had to
• 11:03
  Speaker 4: pee so badly.
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: How badly was it? Very badly? I really had to peek.
• 11:09
  Speaker 4: And uh, well, you got caught up behind a traffic
• 11:12
  Speaker 4: accident on the freeway, so it had been a longer
• 11:15
  Speaker 4: trip and blah blah blah whatever. So I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I'll pull into this gas station here. I'll go ahead
• 11:20
  Speaker 4: and get gas because I'm gonna drive home. I was
• 11:22
  Speaker 4: just there overnight, so you drive home the next day.
• 11:24
  Speaker 4: It's like, I'll go ahead and fill up the gas
• 11:26
  Speaker 4: tank and I will pee in this gas station. So
• 11:29
  Speaker 4: I start doing the gas. I go in there and
• 11:31
  Speaker 4: the guy's like, oh, there's no public bathrooms. I was like, oh,
• 11:36
  Speaker 4: do you have a glory? I was like, but I like,
• 11:38
  Speaker 4: you have a bathroom though, right? He goes yes, but
• 11:41
  Speaker 4: it's employees only.
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: Did you fill it?
• 11:44
  Speaker 4: And I was like, I will pay you, right, now,
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  Speaker 4: if you will just let me use that bathroom.
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  Speaker 1: And he didn't say anything. I was like, I've got
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  Speaker 1: a twenty. I've got a twenty right here. Oh, I'll
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  Speaker 1: give you.
• 11:57
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna twenty dollars because I was like, I'm I've
• 12:00
  Speaker 4: got a piss right, this is gonna happen. And I
• 12:03
  Speaker 4: was like, I'm not gonna mess up your bathroom because
• 12:05
  Speaker 4: thats what they're worried about the word about people going
• 12:06
  Speaker 4: in there and sucking it up.
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like, I'm not gonna mess anything up. You come
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: in there doing drugs.
• 12:10
  Speaker 4: You can come in there and check on it if
• 12:13
  Speaker 4: you if you want to, after I'm done, whatever you want,
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  Speaker 4: please let me into this bathroom. And then he finally,
• 12:18
  Speaker 4: he finally was like fine, and you know he wouldn't
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  Speaker 4: take the money.
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  Speaker 1: Uh. And then but then the funny thing was he
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: had a car remote.
• 12:27
  Speaker 4: Type remote thing that opens the door that opened the
• 12:30
  Speaker 4: bathroom door that yeah, the door open.
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: I was like, that's a boss move.
• 12:37
  Speaker 4: I started laughing really hard, and he was like, yeah,
• 12:41
  Speaker 4: it's kind of silly.
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. I would put those in my house just
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: so people had to ask me, oh, yeah, my bathroom,
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: like where is it. Oh, it's around the corner. But
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: hold on, he can I I'm really drunk. Can I
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: sleep in your guest room? Get no problem? I love it.
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: Oh that's pretty cool, fun travel stuff. Check out all
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: the extra goodies. We discussed the Olympics and which sports
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: merit being in it, which ones do not, And everybody
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: has very high opinions of Paris. Check that out Patreon'm
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  Speaker 1: not gone the ones who have been there. You guys
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: haven't all been there? Have you all been there? I've
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: been there. It's that common.
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  Speaker 4: Believe it, or leaving the country this kind of wh
• 13:37
  Speaker 4: my god, that is really cool.
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  Speaker 1: Mine is genuinely blown. I know that's a weird thing.
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  Speaker 1: That's a really weird thing to discover.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, But somehow you have the strongest opinion. I don't know, bro.
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  Speaker 1: If Jacob was like, hey, man, I have a hookup.
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: I have free tickets to Paris. I want to give
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: them to you for your anniversary, I would say no,
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: I would you fuck that. I'm going to say a Barbara,
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: they have I don't have.
• 14:04
  Speaker 4: But I could get your free tickets into a lot
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  Speaker 4: of things in Paris. That's probably that are hard to
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  Speaker 4: get into type things and you still wouldn't fucking go now.
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  Speaker 4: I just I wouldn't even offer them to you now,
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: it would be wasted, waste never, No, I'm not getting
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: gym into the Mulin rouge.
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  Speaker 3: You.
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  Speaker 1: Is that a real place? Really big? So it's just
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: like a big whorehouse. Well it's a show like they've
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: got I've seen the movie.
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: Oh well then you know everything there is to know.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: It's a whorehouse in the movie. I'm so confused. Is
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  Speaker 1: this a different place.
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  Speaker 4: I just want Jim to have an excuse to say
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: whorehouse on this episode.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: It's gonna get a drop thumb up, I guess. All right,
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: we got some great questions today. It's a whorehouse. Brother
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  Speaker 1: in law ignores me from anonymous at the whorehouse. Hi, guys,
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: that is reasonable.
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: Just a quick FYI on this one, Okay, I trimmed this,
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  Speaker 3: okay significantly, So I did take a little artistic license
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  Speaker 3: with this.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, off the top.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the letter didn't call for dinosaurs, but I thought.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: I would know what throw them in. Yeah, not wrong.
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  Speaker 1: My brother in law ignores me. Hi, guys, my brother
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  Speaker 1: in law who is a dinosaur.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, to be specific, Hi guys, This is the anonymous
• 15:38
  Speaker 7: mother in law that said, oh no, this is the
• 15:40
  Speaker 7: anonymous writer with the mother in law that said my
• 15:43
  Speaker 7: hair looked like a gay Polynesian man and got upset
• 15:46
  Speaker 7: but not having twelve.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: Packs of Kobusha cans. I remember this.
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: I just want to say, we're all very curious what
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: a gay Polynesian haircut looked like.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we still need that. You could just get that.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: I could google it all you want gonna find out.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you for answering my
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: question last time. It was nice. Even if you guys
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: did joke about it. Well, you have listened to the show,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: so you know what's gonna happ when you write it.
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: It helped to put especially if you put the phrase
• 16:14
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• 16:18
  Speaker 1: We cannot be helpful. Control out of our hands, We
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: cannot not touch that. It help did that you did this.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: If a seven year old crashes a car, you don't
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: blame the seven year old.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: You put keys in our hand. To be very clear,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: we are the seven year old. It helped to put
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: in perspective how ridiculous my mother in law's behavior was.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: But it also gave the sense of her having less power.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: I was also very touched when one of you said,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: it's not that he doesn't love you, he just hasn't
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: healed from his trauma, which was very helpful to hear. Well.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: I'm here again seeking your wisdom and advice. On an update,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: my fiance found a counselor to talk to, and my
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: brother in law is now ignoring me when I speak
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: to him. We aren't too sure what to do or
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: how to approach the brother in law. But if we
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: just leave it because he is heavily enmeshed with his mom,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: or if we try to have a conversation with him
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: so he can begin to open up and build a
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: bridge with us and him. We're not sure what to
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: do because this would be determined whether we have a
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: family wedding or just a lope because of the difficulty
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: of my fiance's family. Here's some history to give content.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: The history has been skipped.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Ye, the history. The history was all from the last email. Okay,
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: so we addressed most of that already.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Got it. Go back and listen to that one audience.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: If you want to figure out this, you have a
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: quick a quick recap as to what they'll.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Basically, so writer has pretty much stopped going over there
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: because mother in law was just constantly acting weird, constantly
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: antagonizing the writer about all sorts of different shit. Her
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: fiance kind of felt pressured in the middle. That kind
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: of supported the writer. But then there's just all this
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: drama and everything. She lived overseas and would come back
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: and visit, and the mother in law yea is just.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: A mega bitch, like super weird. Yeah, and they were
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: worried that mother in law was gonna like ruin the
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: wedding and she yep, yep, yeah, that's what it was,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: all right. So and then now we're caught up. Here
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: is nick summary of the present day situation. So Nick
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: has read this, and now we are reading the summary.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I suggested to my fiance to invite his brother over
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: to try to mend things. When he came over, he
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: hardly spoke to me, only making eye contact with my
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: fiance or my sister. I felt dismissed and ignored. My
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: sister asked how he was, but he didn't ask me
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: how I was. When he spoke to me, it was
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: with short answers. I complimented him on his hoodie and
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: he just said thanks. When we ate pizza. He didn't
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: speak to me. If I spoke, he would look down
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: and scratch our dog. Even if I mentioned his name,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: he wouldn't respond. My fiance finally asked if he was okay,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: and he said yes and responded to my story, so
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: he was listening. I told my brother in law about
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: the panic attacks and nightmares I had after seeing my
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: mother in law Christmas Eve. I also mentioned how scared
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I was of having another panic attack if I came,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: if if she came over, or if I came over
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: to saw her. I told him about my forty five
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: minute mindfulness practice and using lavender spray in the car
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: to call myself yes. He said, well, it seems you
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: are worrying about worrying. That is odd. Mom knows about
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: your anxiety. She doesn't grieve you not being there. His
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: face was very expressionless, no empathy, just dead cold. I
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: mentioned this because I avoided my fiance's family for six
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: months because of the panic attacks and nightmares I had.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: When he was leaving, I told him to drive safely
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: and he said I won't. Okay. Damn well, Jacob says
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: that too, so I will not drive safely. Fuck you
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: and your rules do. A won't tell me what to do.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: After this, I felt deeply hurt and thought maybe I
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: shouldn't bother with my fiance's family at all. My fiance
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: thinks we should invite his brother again in a couple
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: of weeks to work on the relationship. However, it takes
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: two people to make a relationship. A few words about
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: family dynamics. My fiance's family is very enmeshed now that
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: we've moved out, all his enmeshment is now focused on
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: his brother. His brother once blamed me when we got engaged,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: saying that now his mom has latched onto him. I
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: wonder if his brother is bitter towards me and blames me,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: which is why he's acting this way. My mother in
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: law tries to talk bad about my my fiance's brother's
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: girlfriend to my fiance as well. Anyway, what are your thoughts,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: reflections or advice. I feel very affected by his family
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: and want this approval from them that will probably never happen.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Thank you for reading my message. Keep doing the awesome
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: work that you always do. From anonymous.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Okay, so any any questions so far, because I may
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: be able to answer him having read this letter. So
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: brother in law by the way writers and listeners, Yeah,
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: you teach me the sausages made. Yeah, So it's just entertainment.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: It's the way the show runs. So if you send
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: in a really really long letter, we will edit it
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: down to.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Have to have to or it'll be the whole show
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: and nobody would listen. And we already struggle with that.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: So we got to keep those fart jokes keep going,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: all right, a couple of questions. The impression I got
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: was that brother in law's Yeah, brother in law is
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: not like overtly a dick, but there's like passive aggressive
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: stuff and sort of like subtle stuff that she's taking
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: his jabs. Yes, okay, so there is the possibility that
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: she's overthinking this ship slightly.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: However, I think, having read this, I would agree. I
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: think brother in law doesn't like you. Okay, yeah, I
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: think that's Do you agree, I do? I mean, yeah,
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: something's up. I mean just the way that he's he reacts.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: He doesn't answer her, he doesn't look at her. He
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: does okay, I mean, and he's not he doesn't say hello,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: he doesn't ask how you're doing. He's cold, and it
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: comes through very cold. Yeah, And it seems pretty obvious.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Like if I was trying to tell somebody I didn't
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: like them without flat up, straight up saying I don't
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: like you, Yeah, it would look a lot like this.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, so yeah, she's probably reading this, I think,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: so all right, Wow, So then Jesus, what do you
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: do about that?
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah? My first thought was the fact that you mentioned
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: inviting the brother in law back over to try and
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: mend things. My first question would be, how are you
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: planning on doing that? Like what would be different that
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: time than this time? Do you have a different plan?
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: And I would really recommend doing that. Talk to your
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: fiance before the brother in law comes over, and I
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: would get on the same page with him, like, hey,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: we can invite him over, but maybe we want to
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: lay out like what we're noticing. That would be my
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: thing if you really want to fix something and be like, hey,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: we can't just let it kind of do that weird
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: fly under the radar thing where you're just short like, oh,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: nothing's wrong, No, I'm fine, put the book up. Yes
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: there is, like you won't look in all in the eyes. Yeah,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: acknowledging the tension, And so I think acknowledging what you're seeing.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: It's important that their facts like, hey, it seemed like
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: when you were over here last time, you were avoiding
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: eye contact, you didn't really reach out to me whenever
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: you reach out to my sister and and just seem
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: sure every time I gave a response. Now if they
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: still try and be like, oh, no, it's fine, it's nothing,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: or like blow it off, because sometimes people who are
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: avoidant will go that route, I would say, well, this
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: is what I want. Then I want to have a
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: relationship with you as family, like I would like that,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: like what are my goals as the writer, like what
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: are my goals and kind of put it back on them,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: and they may still be like, no, no, everything, it's fine,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: it's fine I and don't want to talk about it.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Then you've done everything you can. Ye, you've done everything.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: I feel like you can give it one more shot
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: the good ol like second try or whatever.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: But I like that you get like yourself on behalf
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: of somebody else. No, the first part makes me anxious,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: like if if I thought somebody didn't like me. And
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: this happens sometimes often, okay, every great, once in a while,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: it's very rare. No, Well, those guys I don't care
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: whether city smells a piss, which you said, why why
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: am I I'm carrying your fucking water over here? Like
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: this was your critique, and I'm just like, oh, I
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: heard they smell like piss, and you're like, you don't.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Know, say the people smell like piss if.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Their city smells like piss, they smell like piss. My man,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: the city they call it o de toilette because it
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: smells like piss. I remember when somebody doesn't like you, okay,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: which again this happens sometimes. I oh god, that would
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: make me so anxious if somebody asked me that either way.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: So like, if I'm the guy that somebody thinks that
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I don't like them, if they say, do you not
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: like me? Is there a problem? I'm guaranteed going to
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: fucking lie to you, because if I already didn't like
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: you and you have to ask, then I clearly was
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: trying to conceal it or play it down. And now
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna come out with it because if I'm
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: that much of a douche or I dislike you that hard,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not hiding it. You don't have to ask. I
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: don't like you, and you can tell that. So the
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: fact that you have to probably means I'm going to
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: conceal it. But I like the second.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe Jim will I could see this. But here's
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: the thing. I could see this going a couple of
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: different ways. Number One, you could conceal it, in which
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: case the broad law could conceal it. In which case, yes,
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: you're doing everything you can, but you're also probably not
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: going to make any progress.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Right exactly, so you're still going to do the same.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: It's the same thing.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Now, maybe even the worst case or even worse, he
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: may say, yeah, you know what, I don't like you,
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: and here's what I here's here's why I don't.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I would just start crying.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah I know, I.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Like ugly cry.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Please like me.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: So here's a sot bad.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: If you actually wanted to resolve this issue, you got
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: to make sure that you're capable of taking that feet.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Don't ask that question.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: If you don't ask the question, if you can't handle
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: the answer, because if you asked the brother in law,
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: because here's here's how I would do it. Honestly, if
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: I was in this situation, I would have a conversation
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: with that and say, hey, it's it's clear that you
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: don't like me?
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Why don't you like me? And I would open the door.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah you can handle that.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: I can handle that. Yeah, I'm fine with that.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: What do you mean I don't like you? Why would
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: what do you mean? And that's what they're going to
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: say if they're avoidant, GYM what.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's what's going to do?
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think and then I would have I
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: would have Yeah, you've blown the whistle on me and
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: y Z.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Here are my observations. I can't say that you don't like.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: But I would say that the evidence support sure, or
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I'm getting the impression you don't.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: And if you do, boy, am I relieved to hear that.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: And then it pivots to your second point, Whitney of
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: because I really want us to get along. Well, sure,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: I do like you.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we can move towards resolving that issue. Yeah,
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: but you can't resolve the issue if we're not willing
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: to open up and talk about it.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: No, I do. I think you totally can. I like
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Whitney's second point because I think you can skip the
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: first point. I think you can just tell them like
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: you can nod to like, Hey, sometimes they get the
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: impression that maybe I've said or done something that's rubbed
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: me the wrong way. Okay, cool, that's light touch, and
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: they can that gives them plausible deniability to be like,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: oh no, we're okay. Okay, But then you can go
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: to Whitney's second point and be like, you know, because
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I I think you're a great man, You're You're so
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: good for my fiance. I love your family. I know
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: you guys have been through a lot, and I just
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: really admire you and I want to get along with you,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: and I really hope you sense that for me. I
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: hope that's the energy I give you, because I think
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: whenever you offer friendship in that nice way, the other
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: person's like all right, I mean I kind of maybe
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: I judge you.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: That is a possibility. However, let's let's role play this
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: for a second.
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: Okay, so like the girl, Yes, of course, the haircut.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: It's pretty much haircut mustache. You are raising I'm on their.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Behalf talking about.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Okay. If Whitney is the writer, okay, and I'm brother
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: in law, Okay, let's just say that the reason I
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: don't like the writer, the reason I don't like Whitney
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: is because she is so fucking pretentious.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, she is arrogant.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Every time she comes over to the house, she talks
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: about like she knows what she's talking about. She doesn't.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: She doesn't allow anybody else to talk. She dominates all
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: these conversations, so and so forth. Let's say I've got
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: really good reasons why I don't like this person her. Okay,
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: the idea of I get because I get what you're saying.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: From solution focused perspective. It sounds like, Okay, we don't
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: have to open up this door. We can just figure
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: out where we want to go and we can start
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: working towards that. I get that. However, if she's not
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: aware of the behaviors that irritate me, then how is
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: she going to change. She won't know about those, and
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: she's going to continue to do them, and I'm going
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: to continue to get upset. So I think that is
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: kind of the roadblock here and getting through to any
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: kind of progress. Okay, Yeah, now here's the other thing.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: I've given this a lot of thought too, because I
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: had to write this. Yeah, here's the other thing writer, Okay,
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: in my current job, and I'm not going to go
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: into details of what it is, but everyone wants.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: That I have to.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: I get feedback surveys people people, Yeah, people write, and
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: they're all like scale questions like strongly disagree to strongly
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: agree okay, there's like eight to twelve of those, and
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: then there's little questions in there where you add information
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: like what you could do better?
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Okay. Always every time that this is done.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: Eighty I'd say eighty eight to ninety percent are all positive.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: They're all agree strongly agreeing. But those aren't the ones
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: you pay attention to.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Ten to twelve percent guaranteed every time these surveys are dead.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Ten to twelve percent is strongly disagree straight down the board.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: And these are and they will never give you feedback.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: They never say, hey, here's what you could do different.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: They never answer those questions. They only do strongly disagree.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: So writer, here's what I'm telling you. Like, if you
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: are the type of person where you need to be liked,
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: you need to understand that ten to twelve percent of
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: the population are fucking idiots.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: There you go, they just don't like you.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're not They're not going to like anything
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: that you do, right.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: And it twelve percent of the population are idiots. Just
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: not all the people that are idiots dislike you.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Right right right.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: People enjoy it and they dislike you idiots and they're
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: okay with you.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, some are idiots and they really like you.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's all sorts of.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: But there's a but there's there's I guess what I'm
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: saying here is that there's ten to twelve percent of
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: the population that we really shouldn't care what their fucking
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: opinion is.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Right, But it's hard one. It's going to be your
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: brother in.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Law that does make a difference.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: And I wanted to touch Jim probably is going to touch
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: on this too. But the enmeshment part I think is important, like.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: Friends that I have in measurement clause is where the
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: president can't own things that the president says.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Support uh yeah, yeah yeah, you can't bucking rolling now
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: whatever I want.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: But the investment part is like, your fiance is probably
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: really attached to his brother. If they all grew up
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: all fucking intertwined, it's like that's going to be harder
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: for him to just be like, yeah, we just won't
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: have brother over.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: It's like, oh yeah, well, part of me is like
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: is this is this the writer's problem to solve or
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: is this the brother's problem?
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: No, dude, it is the writer's problem. Yeah, it is
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: the problem. Is it the writer's problem to solve?
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: I think the brothers the fiance, what's his take on this, like,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: because he's in the middle of that.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Is a good question.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Well, if you're going to be married, then well all
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: the problems are showing.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: The wisdom of the Spice Girls prevails. If you want
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: to be my lover, you gotta get with.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: My friends, you know, get with them.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Well, no, you sexualized that in the nineties. That meant
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: you all my friends.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: It was there's a song about group sex jem Oh
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: my god.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: I did not catch any of that.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: No idea.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: But yeah, like, if you want to be in a
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: long term relationship with me, you need to make every
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: effort to fuck my brother or else it's not gonna
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: be good. It's in my way. Yeah, so I don't know.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I do think it's gonna be writer's problem no matter what.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: I think that there's only so much writer can do.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: And I think it's also fair sometimes writer, there is
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: there is a path which is do nothing. There is
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: a path which says leave it alone, don't ask give
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: it time. And you know, because I I don't know
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: some of the way this is written, and it may
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: have just been your edits. I get the impression that
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: brother in law is a little annoyed because the writer
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: almost takes offense at every goddamn thing. It's like, hey,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: you breathed just now, you know, like hey you look
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: down like the detail that writer has a little fucking bit.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: And then writer, you know, brother in law says like, hey,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: you're just worrying about worrying. Mom knows that you're anxious.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Mom does isn't going to feel aggrieved that you don't
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: show up, And she's like, well, I have a lot
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: of opinion about this stuff. And like I almost like
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: sense in the room that brother in law is gonna
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: roll in his eyes and be like, yeah, look I
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: get it. You and mom don't get along, but like
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be fine. Like I don't want to make
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: this whole thing about you now, and I have to
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: like comfort you. And it's like I don't think he
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: likes me, And it's like I think he's just kind
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: of fucking annoyed by you, like and sometimes the answer
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: isn't ask him about that or make it better. It's
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: just let it go and like dial it down a
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: few notches and don't look for a fence and then
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: ask to address it. Does that make sense?
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: It makes sense, I guess, And I hear what you're saying,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: and I understand the words you're saying.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: You want him to sleep with all the friends. I
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: get it.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: You referenced spice girls, not me. Now I'm still a
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: little on board with well, okay, I feel like if
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: you took your route of just leaving it be, and
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: this is a little bit from personal experience in my
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: own family dynamics, it will eventually come to come to
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: heads okay, where it's like, hey, we haven't spoken in
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: three years, Why what happened there? Like we need to
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: all sit down and talk about this. Yeah, it was
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: fucking amazing. It was very uncomfortable and difficult, and you
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: feel very like high high alert, like that anxiety is.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: They're like, oh my gosh, how am I perceiving this?
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: How am I sharing what I want to share?
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Like? Right?
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Am I listening? Okay? Am I sharing? Okay? Like there's
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: a lot that goes into that. So I guess if
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: maybe the brother in law isn't ready, and that's why
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: I said, go ahead and give it a second shot.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: But if they still are just kind of like no, no,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: nothing's wrong and not really wanting to talk about it,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: you cannot force that. And yeah, let it sit.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely think let it sit as an alternative
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: to do anything, Like your brother isn't allowed over here anymore,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: and I'm going to start making you choose. That doesn't
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: turn out well. So I think you get to a
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: place where if the dude's not overtly flipping the table
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: and being unkind and making you uncomfortable in your space,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: if his crime is that he's sort of passive and
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: not inenthusiastic about hanging out with you.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: If he's coming over, you not be there.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's there to see his brother. Maybe he's not
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: there to hang out with you. Take the hint, go
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: watch a movie. Let the boys play video games.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Kind of in a sense of like, Okay, I just
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: I come to accept the fact that he doesn't like me.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know why, but I'm just going to give
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: him space sometimes that.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know that I would give space even Okay,
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: I mean I think I agree with everything up to
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: leave the house.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: You don't have to chase. Yeah, I think I don't
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: think I got to be chased out of your space. Yeah,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: but he.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Depends on what you're uncomfortable. Some people are uncomfortable, like
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: if someone's in their space being rude, like rude to them,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: I get, But then you can't say don't come over it.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: But I think I think you want to claim like
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: like your house. That's like if I had a friend
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: that that I just did.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Not, like there is one.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Her friends that I happen to dislike.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: No one's listening to this, but no, like I mean they're.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: Friends of hers that I don't that I don't love. Uh,
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: And like if they're coming over the house, fine, yeah,
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: I don't have to make myself scarce. Like I'm just
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: gonna do what I'm gonna do. I'm not gonna interfere
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: with whatever they're doing. I'm not gonna be rude. But
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: at the same time, like that's my spot, sure, Like
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: I don't have to leave just because somebody who I
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: don't care for is coming over.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: You'll leave a room, though, wouldn't you.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: To be fair?
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that that goes along with not being rude.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean that you need to establish dominance. You
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: go in the corn.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, this is yeah, that's right. I was going.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: You can leave the room and you're in another big room.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: I'm not putting on pants. I'm not doing it because
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: it's my house. In my space, I don't wear pants. Yeah,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: this is a good one. Writer options definitely don't sabotage it.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: And you don't always have to like And I think
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: that one of you said this point about like, yeah,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: some people are not going to like you. That doesn't
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: necessarily mean that they have to be exiled from your presence,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: and that only people that like you and enthusiastically endorse
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: you are welcome in your space. There's gonna be people
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: that are like, Okay, this is my husband's best friend
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: or this is my husband's you know, brother, whatever, and like,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: don't be mean to me, don't insult me in my home,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: don't try to turn my spouse against me. I don't
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: do anything weird. But like, yeah, I get it, you're
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: you're not. We don't do well together. I rub you
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: the wrong way. It's cool. I'll just take care and yeah,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: that's it. So there's room for that. I think every
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: marriage has that. Every you know, spouse has a friend
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: or a family member that you don't super duper care for,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: but you're cordial and then you give them their space
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: and you don't sabotage their relationship and you don't make
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: anybody choose, and you don't harass your spouse about it. Like,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I just don't think they like me, Like, why the
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: fuck do I have to keep caring about this? Like
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: I get yeah, maybe he doesn't. I don't know. But
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: he doesn't insult you in our home. He doesn't tell
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: me anything bad about you. He's not friendly family.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: I I empathize with the with the I think it's
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: I think it's very difficult. But then I also think
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: too that, like you get to a point where just
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: acceptance becomes kind of a relief.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a good So do.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: They elope them and not have a family if.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: You want my opinion, you always no reason to ever
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: spend a dollar And don't invite people to your wedding.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: That's stupid. No one wants to go to weddings. Depends
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: on the cake. Some of these are dumb. We just
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: threw a great party. Yeah, just do that, throw a
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: party and then get married quietly without anybody realizing that
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: there was a wedding. That's the trick.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, that's that's up to you, you
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: and your fiance to decide if you wanted to do.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I think you can do whatever the
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: fuck you want. I think you get a registry. Like
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: if you want to if.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: You want to have a big wedding and invite the family, great,
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: have a big wedding, invite the family. You want to
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: bite the brother, invite the brother, if if fiance wants
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: to invite the brother, awesome, brothers invited.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I think a.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Big key here is expectation management, you know, like because
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: I think if you here's another example, let's say you
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: invite the brother over again, we're going to give this
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: another shot. If you go into that with the expectation
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: that this time is going to be different, and this
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: time he's going to be really kind and he's gonna
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: be figure exactly, and then what what's going to happen
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: is that's kind of like what Jim was looking forwards,
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: this kind of confirmation bias. You're going to be looking
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: for things that confirm what you already believe. And I
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: guess that's not really example of like expectations. But you know,
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: it's it's one of those things where like you start
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: to question everything, what did that look mean? Oh he
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: didn't he didn't finish his meal? Is that ta me?
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Is that? You know? And then you kind of start
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: reading into things and just be mindful of that. I'm
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: not saying that's what you're doing.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: But it's a liability.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: Just be careful.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want to get into that. Elope get
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: the registry. Have sex with all of his friends, that's
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: the pot. Did we say you have sex with the brother.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's clearly how you get him to like you.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: That's one way issues.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: It's on the table.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: It's not a muss. It on the tables, on the table.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: It's hard to do that and be angry at the
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: same time.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: It is right, that's psychology.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Want to know I really didn't like your say in
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: the beginning, but I've really got to know her.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: I really don't like you.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: This is great. The pull my hair a little bit.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: We're going to take a quick break and when we
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: come back, we're going to talk about in laws, violating
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: boundaries with an X. You're listening to pod therapy. Outlaws Today.
• 41:40
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• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Slashsh Therapy got some trivia this week from Anthony comorad
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: question number one.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Can you see the answers?
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: I can't, damn it. It wasn't I wasn't meant to
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: see the answers, but the way it copying and pasted,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: I definitely see.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Anthony didn't sunk up no fair. Okay?
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: What color are aircraft? Black boxes?
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Oh? Oh?
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Are there options? There are options? O'kay we'll ward two
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: points on the fly.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Oh boy, I think if you just go for it
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: right now, I think you can get it. I mean,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I'll just say black. You're going for it. If I
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: have to guess anyway, you.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Know, it's going to be an option.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you going to be an option. I'm just going
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: to go black. I'm gonna Once you go black, I
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: can't go back.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: There's no that's true.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: Rule is I have that written down.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: I'll bet you it's red. It's going to I guess.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: I gonna guess like stainless stainless steel.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I like it.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: Uh, you're all wrong.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Orange. I think I was the closest. What were the
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: what were the options? Black?
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Orange, red, or blue?
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: I would have was in there?
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: What film did Stephen Spielberg win his first Oscar for
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Best Director?
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Boy, wait say that again? I was sorry?
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: What film did Stephen Spielberg win his first Oscar for
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Best Director?
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Goodness, gracious man, that it's one of my two.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Al Right, I'm going with ET.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go close Encounters of the third kind. I
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: don't think it's that. I'll go Schindler's list. Oh ship
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: mine was mine? Was Schindler's list of ET? Two points?
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Damn, it's well done. That's so good.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: Last one for this round. What is the unit of measure?
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry?
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: What ounces?
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: What unit of measure is used for a computer mouse?
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Ounces to measure the weight of the computer mouse?
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Like how fast it is?
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: How fast it moves across the screen?
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: I need options, but I think it's gonna be great
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: if it's like miles per hour.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: I hope it's a scurry zero point two. How fast
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: is the mouse scurry? That's one point scurry? Oh ship, yeah, yeah, okay?
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: Millimeter centimeters, pixels or mickeys?
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Oh please let it be mixed. I wanted to be Mickeys,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go pick my heart, says Mickeys. Pixels
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: feels correct, Yeah, because what who cares? How far on
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: your desk it moves, That's irrelevant, and it matters how
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: the cursor. Yes, pixels.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Uh, I guess I'm gonna say Mickey's just I hope.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: I love the dream Whitney to get this point for you,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: it is mickey?
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Is it really used by computer scientists and programmers? One
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: mickey is the smallest measurable movement of a computer mouse.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Oh that's fantastic, typically equal to one two hundredth of
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: an inch or just over one tenth of a millimeter.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: The sensitivit a commuter computer mouse is likewise measured in
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: Mickey's per inch. That's fantastic, while its speed is measured
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: in Mickey's per second.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Oh yes, wow, Oh that's lovely. We all want something
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: on that. That's great, but.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Don't take it.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, sorry, I'm over here with a donut, all right,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: so nothing. That's the end of that one. That's the end,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: all right. In laws violating boundaries with my ex short version,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: my parents family invites his ex wife to everything. What
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: as well? You got a fuck my ex man as
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: well as me every sibling, Birthday, thanks Giving, Mother's Day,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: and Christmas. We've explained multiple times that this is not appropriate.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: They've been separated and divorced for two and a half years,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: they have no children together, and oh Jesus, and his
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: ex wife has family in town. My entire assumption, yes,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: and his ex wife has family in town that she
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: can celebrate events with us. They now see me as
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: cold and dramatic for not attending anything because they keep
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: including the ex. I feel like they do not respect
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: me or see me as a legitimate member of the family,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: even if I have been romantically involved with their son
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: for two years. They won't listen to stated boundaries. They
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: think we can all be family someday. But this woman
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: has called me horrible names in the past, and I
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: am not comfort being in the same room with her.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Thanks anonymous dude, What the fuck?
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, I have a fun little story this when my
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: parents got Currently, she's in our basement with that art.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: She's the one who creates all that art.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Very talented.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Whenever my parents got divorced, so my dad was not remarried,
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: this is different. Obviously they have children together, but my
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: mom totally would go on like ski trips with my grandma, like,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: oh wow, her ex mother in law.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they were friends, just like it out they
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: how long were your parents together before the divorce?
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Eight years together eleven by the time the divorce was finally.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: The kids together. I kind of get that angle because
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I kind of get it, like, look, you're connected, I'm
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: the grandma. I want you to be cool with me,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: like I want us to have peace in the kingdom. Yeah,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: I mean going skiing is a bit much. But I
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: could see them being like, hey, I remembered your birthday.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: I hope you're well, you know, like kindness.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: And I'm just remembering two for my graduation from college,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: my cousin, who's one year older than me, we like
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: did a joint little graduation thing in January one on
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: a cruise and it was me and my mom and
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: then my cousin and our grandma. So like my mom
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: and grandma were in a room together too, So it
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: was like that was even just in college, not that
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: long ago.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: I've seen situations where people are friends with their ex
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: after a divorce. It's obviously it's odd, but I have
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: seen the situation where that happened in my family. My
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: uncle and aunt divorced, he remarried. They still had kids
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: in common, and my aunt ended up becoming very good
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: friends with him and his wife and they would invite
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: her out on their boat and they would go fishing
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: and hang out and like it was totally great, and
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: it was actually really great for their daughters because like
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: the daughters were never forced to choose is right, and
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: they would always be very kind to my aunt and
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: be like, oh, come over for the barbecue, we don't care,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: you're great, and like the two women got along and
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: they were both very friendly to my kids. Yeah yeah,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: and it was like, hey, we both are the moms.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: You know, so I've seen that happen. That's a dynamic
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: that is not the ship.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: No.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: No, actually, now that you mentioned it.
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: After my parents got divorced, my mom eventually she initially
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: moved into an apartment, but eventually she moved into a
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: house that my dad's parents owned.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, so my dad's parents became her landlord.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I just remembered that to my uncle. My
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: dad's brother owned the house that we rented. Lots of
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: enmeshment here.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: I guess it's not that uncommon.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but yeah, there's kids involved in things
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: In a situation in which the writer says to the
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: parents like.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Talk to each other.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like, do not do this anymore. I am uncomfortable
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: with this.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: For them to just be like.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Daughter in law, I married, your ex has.
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: Insulted the Yeah, that's weird, but like that's a lot.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: So what about the partner, Like that's exactly what I
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: was thinking to.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Just like, nah, he's got plans.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's sitting back putting myself in this situation.
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: Like if I were the guy and like my family
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: didn't think I would want less.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: Inviting my ex, it's not just affecting my new girlfriend.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: I don't like, what the fuck we like her? Get
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: along with her? Is the guy?
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Like, so in my mind I played this out if
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: the guy in the situation, you nick, like, if you
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: were in that situation and you stop showing up at
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: family events, are they because you're like my ex still
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: showing up. I don't want to go then, you know,
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: are they gonna still pick your ex over you?
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Like I mean, and that's the risk you're running. Yeah,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: that is that's the boycott. I think that's something that's
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: a solid boycott totally. But I could also see them
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: being like, really, for the last two years, you haven't cared,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: and it's like, I mean, I want to know what
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: the man is thinking here. Yeah, this poor.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Dude, because that's my go to not to make I
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: don't think you should force your partner to say that,
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: but I'd be questioning, hey, what are your thoughts about this?
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: Are the only one that's bothered?
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I wonder if the boyfriend is like, look,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: I don't care. She yes, she's my expect Like, we
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: grew up together, our families were friends. I just can
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: be platonic with her, and it is she's always been
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: in my life and whatever can.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Be platonic with somebody that's trash talking your girlfriend.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: That gets weird. But I could also see scenarios where
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: she's like, did you hear what she said to me?
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: And he's like, hey man, you're kind of taking it
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: too personal.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: Oh no, we got to get your wife on this. No,
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: that's just a no. I'm going to tell you you're
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: being overly sensitive off.
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: That's why we brought.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna take notes. Yeah, yeah, I think
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: that the okay, it's a solid point that there is
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: no situation in which if your current girl is uncomfortable
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: or offended by your ex, you don't get to sit
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: down and regulate that. You don't get to say, well,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: what you mean.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: I don't see there's any way that you can do that.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: I think there's I don't even see there's any discussion
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: here with this. It's like, hey, you know what, I'm
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: your current girlfriend and this is really uncomfortable and I
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: think you kind of have to make a decision.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: I have my back here. I'm uncomfortable with it. But
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: I mean the in laws have really been vocal about
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: like no big deal and saying weird ship, like we'll
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: all be one big family one day. That is very
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: like if you have kids, I see it. I see
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: the England likes thing changed with the Birds.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: They have no children.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what you have kids? Like, all right, look, don't
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: make the kids do to Chris coming out. Even then
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: that's too much.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Even then, Yeah, they can stop in and say hi
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: at the birthday and leave. That's about the extent.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, be cordial over all at the soccer game, great
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: to see. How are you great? We'll be sitting over here,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: you know, let us know which car the kids are
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: going home and fine, But like, what if the X
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: starts dating again?
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: That's what I was just thinking.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Brings the date.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: Family about?
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Dude, what the fuck is wrong with these people?
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: I'm on I'm on team brighter here.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: Ud trying to imagine, Yeah, Christmas, what I'm trying to imagine,
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: like what the scenario would be in which the bonds
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: would be that tight with the in laws that they
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: still feel like they need to maintain that because I
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: was kind of thinking, like.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: They're all totally overlooked that, Oh, that's the obvious, we're
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: going to keep that on the table, all right.
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: But I'm also wondering, like.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know where in the house they did it,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: but might have been on the day.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: I think that because I'm I'm thinking like because I
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: just imagine like my hometown, you know, like really small
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: towns where it's like, oh, we all know each other,
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: like yeah, yeah, I work at the bank with her.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: You know or something like that, where it's like, you know,
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: everybody is constantly.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: There is a vibe. Yeah no I'm not on the
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: table and you were fine with that. Oh yeah he's fine.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: But they're nice at the bank and he's got a
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: real fucking beef.
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: You can't work together, you can. No, that is the
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: thing that's unclear about that.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: My in laws lived in a really small town and
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: and like that I could totally see.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: That, Like, I, your wife sex is still showing up.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: No, it wouldn't. I wouldn't be comfortable. Can you see, Jim? No,
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: But like, okay, my in laws are that those people,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: they are super nice and like I've seen, I have
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: three brother in laws. They've all dated people and like
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: some of them do still and they're very nice. My
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: in laws would be sweet to them, and I could.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: I don't. I think inviting them to family events is
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: a bridge too far, but I could easily see them
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: just being very comfortable with like, oh we're all having
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: a barbecue, feel free to not buy for a burger
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: that not quite come over for Christmas, We're getting you
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: a gift.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: But also like, what is the ex wife's motivation here? Too?
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like is she really that kind of I have
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: a theory. I have a theory. But you did the math. Yeah,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: because you did the math, Because I did the fucking math.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: What the writer says. They've been separated slash divorced for
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: two years. I have been with him for two years.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: So I think there might be a little bit of like,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: fuck you, you stole my husband going on. Yeah, and now.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: It's I know that it makes you uncomfortable that I'm
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: here at Easter.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, so she knows what she's doing.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: I'll be here early and I'm staying.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: I think it's one of the things where her husband
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: was like, hey, we're done, we're separated, I'm moving on,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: and then maybe she was like, hey, that's shitty, like
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: your timing's bad.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: And I don't well, even if it was close, like
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be overlaped. But I think if
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: you're separating from somebody, it's just you feel hurt, and
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: if they're moving on to someone else, you're like, bitch.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: You're the ex wife, Just move on.
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: I don't know that her motivation matters to this at all, Okay,
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: because like whether she's being invited or not is what
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: matters to the writer and to the family. Yeah, like
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: whether the whether the ex is accepting the invitation, that's
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: a different thing. Like if she's showing up uninvited, then
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: it's on her. But she's being invited to these events,
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: so we all, I think it's on the family.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: That's shitty. She's already told these people please stop doing this.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, does she take it to the next level
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: and get her boyfriend to start an embargo? Do you
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: take it that far? I mean, here's the thing. They'll
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: like to get pregnant. You can say anything, get pregnant.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: That's the move, doesn't matter who it is.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: Another great advice.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, we're so good at this.
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: If you get pregnant, then you get to say, like
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: I don't want her on my on board child, Fine, yeah,
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: have her there.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: I'm not showing up.
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna miss the babies first Christmas. Ways, Yeah problem,
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: get pregnant. Yeah, I won't bring the kid to Grandma
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: and Grandpa's out right if.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: Don't have the up any relationship problem? Yep, you think
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: he's mad at you pregnant and if you're not pregnant,
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: just lie about it. You get away with that for
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: too much. I don't know how the ship works.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: It's like, Bryan, I'm pregnant. Then it pans her in
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: her little head. She shakes her head.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he's like really trying hard to like
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: impress her and get her back, and I just want
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: you to know I'm gonna do the right thing. It's like, okay,
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: it's just all excited and he's taking her. Yeah, no,
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: it works.
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: It just you just get a range of like different
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: sized pillows that you put under your shirt.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh yeah, No, men are idiots. You can just
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: be like, oh no, women don't start show until about
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: nine months, like.
• 58:09
  Speaker 8: Okay, we don't know. Yeah no, no, no, so good, babe,
• 58:17
  Speaker 8: so good. All right, So I think we solved it. Yeah,
• 58:21
  Speaker 8: I think we got it.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, I just like I don't have much else
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: to add other than just like I think, like from
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: writer's perspective, I don't want to tell the writer like, hey,
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: you need to tell boyfriend, boyfriend he needs to do
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: I don't want to give that advice. Don't. However, I
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: feel like I could feel like boyfriends should already do it.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: I'm on next. I agree.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: I kind of feel like that, Well, what about girlfriend
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: telling boyfriend Hey, look, this keeps happening. I've asked for
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: it to stop. I am uncomfortable. I'm not going to
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: be a Christmas with your family. I thought about that too,
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: what's the downside of that? No?
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: No, they're still gonna have Christmas with and the ex
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: wife will be there.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: Not only that, Not only that, but what if boyfriend's like, okay,
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: you can stay home.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: That's information too. That's you deciding all right, this isn't
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: really maybe a person I should be this.
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's I think Step one is, honestly, writer, sits
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: down just with yourself and figures out exactly what this
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: means to you, and like you got to figure out
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: exactly what this is worth to you, Like is this
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: a relationship ender? Is this a I'm not gonna go
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: see your family anymore type event? Or is this I'm
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: gonna keep on doing this begrudgingly and it's gonna fucking
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: gnawn me for a long time, but I'm gonna I'm
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: gonna soldier through it.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Like where is this on that spectrum? Because if this
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: is I'm going to.
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: End the relationship over this end of that, then that
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: is something you go to your significant other and you
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: can explain that to them.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: You can say, I don't believe you.
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: Have understood directly how I feel about this, so let
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: me explain this to you. I've taken some time to
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: really figure out how I feel about this, and let
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: me let me express to you what my findings are. Yeah,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: I like if it is if it is to the
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: degree that this is going to be a relationship ender,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: that's something that you can spell out. If this is,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: you know, I don't I don't respect your family, I
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: don't care to see your family anymore.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: I won't be going any more family functions.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that, and that can be you know, that
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: can become a relationship ender at that point.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, there's there's all these different things.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: But I think you have to sit down with your
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: with yourself first and really figure out what that's going
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: to be for you. And that might be sit down
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: and kind of think on it and meditate on it.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: That might be go talk to a therapist about it. It
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: might be talked to a close friend about it. It
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: might be any of it might be a combination of
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: those things.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: Uh, it could be anything, but I think that has
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: to be step one. Good point.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: It's finding your boundary, and I think keeping at a
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: boundary and not an ultimatum. I just want to enforce
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: that because it's like such a fine line at times
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: with you. If you don't do this, it's not.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: Saying yourself hostage.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: Is this is where I'm at, This is what I'm feeling,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: saying your family or me, because I want to be
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: over here.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: To elaborate on that, because like I think that's a
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: good point, like the ultimatum versus a boundary, and I
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: think one of the it's hard for people to understand
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: the difference between those. I've always defined that as an
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: ultimatum is something that you do with intent to manipulate
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: someone else's behavior, which is different than a boundary, which
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: is just saying this is what I'm doing to protect.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: Myself, being honest with what you want.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not available to come to these gatherings if
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: this other person is going to be there, and that's
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: that's my choice. It's like okay, well then, and then
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: like you have to be prepared, like Jacob said, because
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: boyfriend might say, Look, it's my brother's birthday and I
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: don't have control over the fact that my parents are
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: going to do this, but I'm not going to abandon
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: my brother. I'm going to go and like, you need
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: to be prepared for that, and you kind of don't
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: want to just out and out sabotage your own relationship
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: in the name of this bitch, Like I don't want
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: that to happen. But I think you are allowed to
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: recuse yourself and let people be annoyed by it. Let
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: people be like, well, I don't know why she does that. Okay,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry that you don't understand my feelings, but that
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: is my truth.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to and it doesn't have to be
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: you are sabotaging your relationship because of that. It can
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: just be I feel the relationship has been sabotaged by
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: this situation. There it is, and so I have to
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: remove I'm gonna have to remove myself from the.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: Situation in life, Coach, that's fine. I still agree with
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: to get her pregnant. I still think I get up there.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: It is flickering lights almost Yeah, I think that you
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: go with life Coach A or B both were solid answers.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: I really one involves child support payments. The final Angel
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: move is pretty clear and just saying it's just the
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: biggest you to those grandparents, because then your in laws
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: are like, oh, ship, she's got us by the balls.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: I also need to go on record and say out
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: loud that is terrible advice and don't listen to that advice.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah a lot while just let you know, making advice
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: real advice, advice not as real. Rub his fingers say,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: it won't work if you do it, though. Good luck
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: with this one. Writer, boy, I'd love to hear more
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: anything that you.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: I want to hear updates.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: Follow I'm fine devoting an entire episode.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, we need we need some
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: of them. You earn the right to call in because
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: it's it's crazy enough that we're like, here's our cell phones.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: We want to hear I need.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: I need a letter from the in laws, the letter
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: from the parents who keep inviting.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: The we needed Jerry sein felt this ship. Wait a minute,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: maybe Jerry that one. I want that one.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 6: What's the deal on a p Have you had the
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 6: food on those days?
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Why do we eat turkey on thanks goodick? Yeah? So
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: I would love just this whole thing to be live streamed.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think the next holiday, I want Labor
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: Day to just be live stream, so that's what we need.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Writer anyway, good luck with this, Congratulations on your upcoming pregnancy,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: and I hope everything works out really well. We're in
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: take quick break and when we come back, we're talking
• 1:04:28
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• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: Then okay.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: Jacob has two, Whitney has one, Jim a goose egg.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: Despite the term as American as apple pie, the first
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: recorded apple pie recipe came from what country?
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: France? I mean kind of feels like France. I'm gonna
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: wait on answers, but I like France. I'm going for two,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: You're going for two.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: I'm waiting for Francers too, but I feel like it's
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: one of those Dutch countries like the Netherlands.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: No, I've been there, apple to Oh shit, I didn't.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: I forgot?
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: Options are Asia? Oh shit, it's not a country? England?
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: Or is it France?
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: Canada?
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: Can I be their friends?
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: New Zealand?
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: God dam Canada? England, Asia, New Zealand.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: I guess I want boy England. I mean the money's Asia, guys.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: You get a lot with that, you know somewhere there.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to go to New Zealand.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: All right, Okay it is England?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 6: Whoa.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: The most recorded recipe for an apple pie was written
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: in English thirteen eighty one in England and called for
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: figs raisins pears san saffron in addition to apples.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: About that doesn't that's a lot like.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: An apple pie?
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not in favor.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: How many miles away from Russia is Alaska?
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: Isn't it like sixty eight? Or it's Sarah Palin's I know,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: that's what I was thinking of Sarah enough.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: That you can set you know, she never said that.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: Oh, Tina Fey said it as Sarah Palin.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: He became lower.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: You're right, You're right, yeah, because she was just implying
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: they were super close.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: Sarah Palin talked about how close Russia was to Alaska.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do remember TFA made it.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: Like I could see Russia from my house. Yeah, very active.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: Jd Vance fucking a couch.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah yeah yeah.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: They were saying that it was in his autobiography that
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: he that he fucked Latex Glove in his couch and yeah,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: it's just not in there. However, has John Oliver pointed
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: out the AP printed a what do you call it?
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: Would you would take it back?
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: Retraction?
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: Retraction?
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: The AP printed, I guess it wasn't even a retraction,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: but like a clarification that was like jd Vance did
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: not have sex with his sofa, and.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: That they had to pull that.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: And he pointed out that legal would say, you could
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: say that he didn't put in his book that he
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: had sex, so we don't know never had sex with
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: a sofa.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: Another retractive. That's fantastic, all right, So I need numbers.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: I think five.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: Hundred miles, okay, fifty three miles one thousand, fifty three
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: miles one and seventy four miles.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: Oh boy, what the lowest one was? Sixty three fifty three.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: I want that one.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, I want that one too.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'll take the five hundred something you.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: Would it is fifty three. The Bearing Strait separates Russia
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: and in Alaska at their closest point, a distance of around
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: fifty three miles.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: I feel like it helped them say my original.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: Guest, the venus fly trap is native to what region?
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: Oh, I need to understand the word region. The planet
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: is Venus Asia.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: Not Lordies.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, region, South America? Is that too big? Do I
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: need to say?
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: Let's go with options? Mexico, Hawaii, North and South Carolina,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: the Amazon rainforest.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: I'll take Amazon rainforests.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, I mean yeah, that was gonna be too.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: South America was the region that I was also going
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: to say.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: North and South Carolina fly trap scientific name and parentheses
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: is native to the coastal bogs of North and South Carolina,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: specifically within sixty mile radius of Wilmington, North Carolina.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: I can also be found.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: In Cape Fear River basin.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, scared, Yeah, that's really nido. They're native only to
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: North and South Carolina.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: They also sell them at our home depot. The sun
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: has one.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: They're oh it does say North Carolina, South Carolina and
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: home depot.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: Sorry yeaheah, Okay. The region of region they call it
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: the Orange region. Yeah, it's everywhere. Best friend broke up
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: with me to date my ex. Hello genius podcasters and
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: Jim Good Evening. In a moment, I'll explain the deats,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: but here is the gist. Friend, twenty five year old
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: female ended her friendship with me twenty four year old
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: female to be with my ex, twenty seven year old
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: non binary who never stopped hitting on me until a
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: week before they started dating. And the whole thing is
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: making me sick out to hear anything else.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: You're better off just be done with whatever this is,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: move on with life without these two people get pregnant.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: That's the move.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: How you show that bit? It's not a fixed all Joe, Okay,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: all right, fixing some situation, right, you gotta measure it out. Sis.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know if this is one of them. Might be.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's definitely not. I'm not gonna say
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: it's not gonna work. Is that normal? Or am I
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: being insecure? Now? For some context, my ex and I
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: dated for a little over a year during COVID and
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: then broke up. Our breakup was clean and civil, and
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: I made sure we kept a proper distance from one another. However,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: my ex never stopped dimensioning how much they regretted ending
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: it and tried to convince me to get back together
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: for years and saying they still loved me. Fast forward
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: to twenty twenty three, my ex still calls to tell
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: me they love me and begs for us to get
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: back together, but I refuse because I cannot go back.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: I've worked so hard to heal from that relationship, but
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: since we're in the same friend group, it's hard to
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: cut them off completely, so we still meet during social events.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: My best friend, on the other end, is not very
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: social and very few friends. We've been friends since college
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: and lived together for seven years. We've been more than
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: sisters and supported each other through everything. After her last
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: breakup from a five year relationship, she became extremely depressed
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: and isolated. To help her, I started taking her to
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: every social outing I attend. Whether I was hanging out
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: with old high school friends, work friends, or even taking
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: my sister to the dentist, I would bring her along.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: I literally merged our social lives together. One day, my
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: friends planned a birth they party for me, and I
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: made sure they also invited my best friend, so she
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: wouldn't feel lonely without me. My ex was also there
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: because again we are in the same friend group, and
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: my best friend wasn't part of it. Originally, my best
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: friend hated my ex and never approved of our relationship.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: She always called them ugly, weird, and unpleasant and urged
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: me to find better options within my league. However, during
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: my birthday party, they somehow clicked and started chatting, despite
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: my ex telling me they loved me and begging me
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: to get back together throughout the party and basically just
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: the usual rant of I'll cry if you told me
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: you loved me. The following week, I found out that
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: my ex and best friend had started dating out of
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: the blue, and we're now and we're now in a relationship.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: I was confused and worried about my friend because she
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: is very vulnerable during this phase of her life, and
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: my ex has a history of taking advantage of helpless women,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: love bombing them when they're in their lowest and then leaving.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: Also the fact that they had been literally swearing they
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: loved me just a week ago, so how could they
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: do this to my best friend. I voiced my concerns
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: to her, but she said I was just jealous of
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: their bond as if I couldn't have my ex back
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: ages ago if I wanted to. I felt deeply hurt
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: and devastated, but decided to cut them both off and
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: move on with my life instead of making it a
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: bigger deal. I told my ex, I don't care what
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: two consenting adults do with their lives, but I would
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: never forgive them if they played with my friend's feelings
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: and they and then let my friend know I can't
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: look at her the same way again. Something in me
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: was broken and feeling that the person I considered my
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: sister disposed me for someone they met a week ago
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: and painted me as a villain that is just jealous
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: of what she has made me disgusted. However, I keep
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: seeing pictures of them being lovey dovey on my friends
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: social media. It makes me really uncomfortable. I don't know why,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: but I feel sick to my stomach. Is that normal?
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: Or am I being insecure? The whole thing was over
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: nine months ago, and I still can't handle the whole thing,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: especially after knowing they're bad mouthing me to other people
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: and trying to distance the friend group away from me
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: by hosting events knowing I won't be attending, nor would
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: I know about those events. I feel lonely without my
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: usual friend group and hate to admit it, but seeing
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: them together just makes me angry. What do I do?
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: Anonymous single part of the rest of that email that
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: made me change my advice, repeating himself, I'm living there,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 4: guilt and pregnant.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Yeah, there's so much hurt to that
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: I can't believe the friend like whipping that script.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: So quickly that.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: I'm like, is the exits non binary? They really persuasive
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: or like, are they mind fucking this?
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: Well, they've been together now nine months, so like, I mean,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: it's not new lasting, it's not new. So I mean,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: I hate the word legitimate, but like it's a thing
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: that relationship exists. I still feel like it's super shitty
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: to do, you know, Like the ex lover who's non binary,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: that's difficult because they don't seem like a great person.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: That's probably why the writer broke up with them, and
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: they keep pestering and doing all the shit and writers
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: like aware, Yeah, they're kind of a sleeze. The fact
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: that your best friend who you've been very loyal to,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: decided to date your ex. Yeah, that shit's weird. Yeah,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: like that's a that's a big move.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know. A world's hardly where that's okay.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, it would have to be like extreme odd
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: circumstances where that's okay.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: I mean. And it just seems like I empathize with
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: the writer because it seems like it's a lot of
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: loss all at once.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that you're dealing with.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's you've got that relationship ended, took you
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: a while to get over that. You got over that,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: but there's those constant reminders. You lose the friend and
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: then now it's like the entire friend group because now
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: they're planning events and then they're inviting friends and then
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: you know, leaving you out of it. That sucks. And
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: like it's one of those things where it's like I
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: hate it. I hate being punished for things that I
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: didn't do wrong, you know, and it's like you feel
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: like you did everything you you did the right thing,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: like you were responsible. Hey, this relationship is not what
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: I want. I'm going to end it, and I'm going
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: to be civil about it, and I'm going to be
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: an adult about it, and I'm going to do the
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: right thing, and I'm not gonna bad mouth this person.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: I'm just going to keep my distance, you know. Yeah,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: goes through a huge you know, breakup and then so
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: you drop everything and then you're like, I'm going to
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: be here for you, and you invite them along and
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: you include them and everything, and then like for all
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: the good that you did, you're rewarded with all of.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: The sun by friends. Yeah, like yeah, no partner, which
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: you don't have to have a partner, but it's just
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: like all of it's just dropped.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: I have an interesting philosophical question about this go on writer.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: Date out philosopher.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 4: We should we say bets before he says what it is?
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: You know what, whether it's interesting or philosophical.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: It will it will be at least the latter. So
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: writer broke up, okay, Writer said, I dated X during
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: COVID for a year. Then we broke up. Okay, so
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: during COVID, So let's call that twenty twenty. We've been
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: broken up now for a long time, right, and my
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: it's now July when we're seeing this, And in twenty
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: twenty three, late twenty twenty three, that's when friend dates
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: X starts dating X and our friendship ends. So you've
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: been broken up with your ex for two to three
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: years now, and now your friend starts dating your ex
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: and you guys were together for one year. Now. I
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: get that X kept pestering you, but X is also
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: part of your general friend group. So you've clearly moved
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: into this new platonic mode of like, yeah, we dated once,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: and there is a statute of limitations on this where
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: you're now hold on, hear me out. I'm looking at you, okay,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: because the way you turned your head was angry. So
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: but oh no, no, no, okay, I have no emotion. Okay, good.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: There is a statute of limitations of like, oh, did
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: you and this person date once upon time? Oh yeah,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: that's we dated a long time ago. It was brief,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: you know, but we're we're cool, we're friends, and it's
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: like okay, and if that's kind of like again, you
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: might not like that person or whatever, but you're all
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: in the same friend group. There could be a scenario
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: where that was long enough ago and lasted a minimum
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: amount of time, and like, my new friend that I've
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: brought into our friend group meets that person and goes, hey,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: you guys, use the date. Yeah, like briefly, a long
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: time ago. We're both moved on. Who cares, I've dated
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: other people now, we're friendly. We're all in the same outh.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: Whatever we all say to each other, make a lot
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: of assumptions there. Anyway, I'm painting this picture of the
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: statute of limitations. Have at it. What do you think
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: about that? Let me ask you this. You and your
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: wife have been married for quite some time, a couple
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: of months anniversary.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like that at some point she's going to look
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: up and realize what she's done and realize that she
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 4: still has life ahead of her.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she'll get out while she can't. Yeah. And let's
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: say a year or two after that.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you find out on this show that I am
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: dating your wife, which I'd assume, yes, yeah, I mean
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: for her sake, I would, I would hope.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Hey, you know what, give credit where credit is due.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: Thank you?
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: Until waiting after the divorce, what nice guy, Jacob?
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you. Yeah, to come out publicly
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: about it. I assume he's the cause. And also he
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: was a geniture. Yeah, he waited.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 4: You would at the very least with our relationship on
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 4: this show, you and I are not best friends out
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: outside of this show. What you and I are not
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: best friends outside of this show. But even with our
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: relationship on this show, I believe you would at the
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 4: very least not even want me to but expect a
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 4: conversation about that before that happened, before I asked your
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: ex wife out, you would expect me to come to you.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: It's a hey, hey, Jim, uh, just a heads up,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: bare minimum you would expect, like, just a heads up,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go on a date.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: With your wife with your ex wife.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, And that's not that's not your best friend, that's
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: somebody that you host the podcast.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: But also you're talking about a long marriage and even
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: marriage versus like, oh I dated somebody during the pandemic.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: It's not a big deal. I broke up with him.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: I don't have feelings for him. Year. That's I think.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: I think like the pandemic because.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: It was kind of a warped tunnel of time, like
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: nothing counted, Like you couldn't get st d S or
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: anything right. You're fine, count.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, but flip it on its head. Can we agree
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: that there is a reverse of like the magnitudes, where
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: the formula is okay, like, yeah, that's my with not
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: with the best friend.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: A close friends together seven years.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: I think that's with the X the friend.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: We've been friends since college. I lived together for seven years.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: So yeah, the portrayal is on the Live with Me
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: I was dating him, which is the X like, which
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: I think is an interesting difference. Yeah, that's true. I
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  Speaker 1: think I think it's a betrayal on the on the
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: part of the friend. Well, yeah, I'm just saying that.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: What would be our scenario where the statue has to die? Yeah,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think you have to murder.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: Suggesting murder, you keep bringing it up.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think you have to back a car ye,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 5: like between thegular homicide and talking wife getting a little
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 5: specific and I don't know what needs to like and
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 5: also apparently not fucking friends like but you know, I'm
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 5: not crying.
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  Speaker 2: You know you allergies?
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: He got a pit adrill? What is the statute of
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: limitations before you can date your friends? X? Wait? How
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: long does that need to go?
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: There?
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: There is a number, there is, it exists, And you're right.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: I think Jacob's point is there's a courtesy call, there's
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: a Hey, they asked me out. I I am interested
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: in that, but if you say you're uncomfortable, I won't
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: do it. That's different.
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  Speaker 4: If you want to keep that friendship going, I think
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: you got to at least do that.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I think that's an expectation. We can all
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: still agree that right is to describing a piece of
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: shit friend. I'm good with that. I'm just curious. That's
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: why says a philosophical question, what is the statute of
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: limitations before? I think that's okay.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: I think that kind of speaks to Jacob's point. It's like,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: there is no statute of limitations you have to No, no,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: it depends on what you want as the outcome. Okay, yeah,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: you know, because if you don't like if if saving
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: their relationship is important, you know, then it's it's a
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: significant amount of time, if not ten fifteen minutes, you know.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it just kind of doesn't matter if
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: they're still to exactly, Yeah, are all x'es off limits forever?
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: Like I mean no, no, okay, that's.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: Like, if you like slept with them, I think that matters.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: If it's like, you know, it depends on how deeply
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: you felt for somebody to be honest, but it's almost
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: non existent. Like I again, it'd have to be a
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: weird outliar situation where you're like, you know what, I
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: dated this person and found out I'm not even attracted
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: to that gender anymore.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: Go for it.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like something wild where it's just.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: Like, like we all grew up the same friends. I
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: found that.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's fine, that's fine.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the scenario, it's like, hey, we grew up
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: together whatever, like we were all friends. You don't have
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: a monopoly on that person. Just dated them. It didn't
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: work out for you. Guys, you need to get over it.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: So are you saying Whitney that, like, imagine you're single
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: a friend Jesus, imagine a man that dated a friend
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: of yours. That man is off the table forever for you,
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: even though you're single.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: Depends on what kind of friend. Again, is there somebody
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: we were Yeah, like I have. I was roommate with
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: the same person all through college. Love her to death.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: So four years of living with her through college, if
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: she came to me or I went to her and said,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: like I want to date one of your her exes,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I can't. I mean, she also dated
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: both genders, so that would be really interesting conversation up.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: It'd open up a whole other conversation. I think she'd
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: be like, go on, so everybody right, but it would
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: just yeah, it would depend and I don't know. Yeah,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: out of her exes that I'm thinking of, I'm like,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know which one she'd be totally okay with,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: And maybe she would. She's like married with kids now
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: and stuff, and so she's like, yeah, that was twenty
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: years ago.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: So like these people all in their early twenties, writer's
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: twenty four, I know, so living together for seven years
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: that age.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely we were.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: Friends in high school and like we know the same crew.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: We're still in her early twenties, and there's a lot
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: of mixing and matching going.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think there would have been a situation
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: at that age with her that I'd been like, yeah,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: go for it. Like maybe at thirty eight, now, okay, maybe.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: I date somebody at twenty And now I'm twenty four,
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: and now you met up with my ex that I
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: dated from life like twenty to twenty one or nineteen
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: to twenty. I don't know. I feel like this gets
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: measured a little differently at that age range.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: Well, but it doesn't matter because the writer is angry. Yeah,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: so we're like trying to justify me. I know, you're
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: kind of curious, and that is an interesting question, of
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: interesting philosophical question, like what is the limit? I think
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: it's just a million different variables. Yeah, but overall, generally, yeah,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: it's almost nonexistently.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: It's like in the group that I grew up with,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: like the church group that I was in, we all
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: there was like twenty of us, and there was a
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: lot of mixing and matching between like oh, middle school
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: and then high school in like early college, yes, and
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: it was like among a lot of kids. In middle school, we.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: Were all he was the church leader, a week leader.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: We were all kids at the same time. We're fucking
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: each other. It was legal, but no, like in that
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: situation then it's like, oh, well, you can't date that person.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: I did that person in tenth grade.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: It's like yeah, but you're not fucking them, Like.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, they were all fucking.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: Okay the middle school.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: This was an evangelical church. They were all.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: In God's penis vagina, fucking.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: As long as there's metal on the roof, God can't
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: see that.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: No, I just think when when you're young like that, Yeah,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: dating means something different typically, and it's like, oh I
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: liked them and we held hands and went to the
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: movies and like made out maybe or something. But like
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know when you start dabbling into like more
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: emotional like entwinement or how many people to do scissor.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: But that.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: I was looking back at the writer's question, and I
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: guess just expression. They said they feel lonely without their
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: usual friend group. They feel angry, which probably because they're
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: feeling like they're being iced out by everyone. It's like
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: these two people, well one person specifically your friend, betrayed you,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: and then you also maybe feel like they could be
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: getting hurt by your ex partner because they were kind
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: of a shithead. So there's complicated feelings there, like being
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: up with her for betraying you, but also worrying about
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: her maybe. And then on top of that, they both
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: are kind of feeling like they're colluding against you to
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: like pull all your friends away from you. That's just
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: a lot of layers.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd be more upset about losing the friend group
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: than it wouldn't be about the other two, because like,
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: if the other two just do that to me, like
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: I would make the best I try to find that
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: silver lining and just be like, Okay, they saved me
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: some time because they're shitty people, yep, and so they've
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: saved me from having to invest any further into this
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: relationship for them only to disappoint me later anyway. So
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: that's how I would reframe that. But losing the friend group,
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: I think that would hurt the most.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, especially when you're that young, that's your people. Yeah,
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: that's really hard. And now for like nine months you're
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: not being invited to stuff. It's like, no, you're gonna
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: make it weird. And it's like they did in my ex.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: It's like, well you were hanging out with your ex
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: and it's like, I don't know, I could. This is
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: an area where people, you know, I don't know, I
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: don't think they're all assholes.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: But no, no, and you invite your friend group to
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: stuff like yeah you can, Nick's probably gonna go there.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking too, is like you can
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: invite them, you know, and you can try to maintain
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: some sort of connection or maybe not even all of them,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: but you know, just like individuals from that group, you know,
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: and just to try to work on maintaining some of
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: those individual bonds. It's also maybe not a bad time
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: to kind of start exploring other friend groups and just
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: kind of.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: Like your best friend. What got best friend depressed in
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: the first place, was that best friend broke up with
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: somebody that'd been danging for five years. Yeah, clearly you
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: go fuck that guy, like, that's obviously the move. You
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: look that dude up, you get pregnant, and then you
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: go have the life she was denied.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: So so far, we're three for three on three of
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: these letters, like get pregnant.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 4: You know, I shot Jim down earlier. I can't shoot
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 4: him out on this one. Thanks, But I think I
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 4: just agree with.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: That's best friend support right there. Yeah, that's what that
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: looks like. I think Jim and I just became best friends.
• 1:30:04
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• 1:30:07
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• 1:30:10
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• 1:30:37
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  Speaker 1: has some limits, but at least care provided by some
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  Speaker 1: licensed mental health workers is slightly cheaper, up to fifteen
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• 1:33:36
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