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A Ballin' Weekend of Bowlin' & Bettin' | NFL Week 7 Recap & MNF Preview · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Go favorites live on YouTube presented by DraftKings. The crown
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  Speaker 1: is yours. I'm Brandon Kravitz, your host alongside the first lady,
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  Speaker 1: Kendra Middleton. Week seven is just about wrapped up. We
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  Speaker 1: survived the Paris game without anything weird happening. The 49ers
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  Speaker 1: lost a football game. The Miami Dolphins won a football game.
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  Speaker 1: Very weird week. We'll get to all of that. We've
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  Speaker 1: got receipts. We've got cash, crash, clutch, a word from
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  Speaker 1: the Oracle, Evan Abrams, and a Monday night football SGP
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  Speaker 1: to get you before we get on out of here.
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  Speaker 1: This is one of the busiest betting days of the year.
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  Speaker 1: A happy equinox day to you, Kendra. And it's a
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  Speaker 1: full moon. So weird shit going on out there.
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  Speaker 2: Happy Equinox to you. Happy full moon.
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  Speaker 3: I think that Mercury is in reverse cowgirl again, if
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  Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken.
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  Speaker 2: So we've got all the things going on. We got
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  Speaker 2: some spooky Halloween stuff coming up. It's going to be
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  Speaker 2: a week.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was a sex position.
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  Speaker 2: Mercury is in retrograde.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. That's the one. Um, got it. That it is.
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  Speaker 1: And it, and you know what? I think week seven
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  Speaker 1: was a good detail of just how strange the world
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  Speaker 1: is out there. Um, I did not do a pumpkin
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  Speaker 1: patch this weekend. Did have a kid's birthday party on Saturday, though.
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  Speaker 1: So left Sunday wide open.
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  Speaker 2: What was the bowling alley?
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  Speaker 1: It was there was Batman at a bowling alley. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: You know, how about this?
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  Speaker 1: It was before they even opened up. They opened up
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  Speaker 1: early for us to get the VIP treatment. Had a
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  Speaker 1: whole bowling alley to myself.
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  Speaker 3: Can I compliment you in a really weird way? You
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  Speaker 3: give the vibe that you would be good at bowling.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that was the compliment you intended it
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  Speaker 1: to be, but I did win. Now, I beat my family,
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  Speaker 1: like my mom and my sister and my six-year-old.
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  Speaker 2: You look like you would be good at bowling.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not great, but I'm usually... I'm fine. Yeah. I
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  Speaker 1: can't do... Here's the thing. I don't have my own ball.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have my own shoes, and I can't do
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  Speaker 1: that spin thing, but I do... I do Chuck that
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  Speaker 1: ball with a lot of force. So it was a,
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  Speaker 1: it was a winning weekend in bowling. Not so much
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  Speaker 1: for me in the NFL betting world, a quick checkup
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  Speaker 1: in the draft Kings contest where we crushed it again,
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  Speaker 1: mostly thanks to you guys bears minus two and a half.
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  Speaker 1: We had on Thursday night, Caleb Williams looked like the
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  Speaker 1: league MVP in this game, but the Patriots Made it interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Took a late fourth quarter field goal to put the
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  Speaker 1: Bears up by nine, putting the game just slightly out
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  Speaker 1: of reach, but it was a good call on the Bears.
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  Speaker 1: They were the better team on Thursday night, and happy
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  Speaker 1: that we cashed that one. This Thursday night streak that
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  Speaker 1: we have going.
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  Speaker 2: On is something serious.
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  Speaker 3: We've got to keep the Thursdays going, I think, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 3: until we miss. I think that that's got to be
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  Speaker 3: something we work into this.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely. Yeah, we've got some good Thursday night mojo. What's
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  Speaker 1: the Thursday night game coming up? We have, oh, Panthers Packers.
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  Speaker 1: Might have to end up on the Sad Cats on
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  Speaker 1: Thursday night.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: They both are in a spot where they might need
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  Speaker 3: to bounce back. The Packers, we'll get to the Packers
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  Speaker 3: game from yesterday because I've got some stuff to say,
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  Speaker 3: but they both are in a, it's a bad spot
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  Speaker 3: for both of them.
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  Speaker 1: So the Saints, we had the Saints plus three and
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  Speaker 1: a half against the Steelers.
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  Speaker 2: Gross game. I need to talk about the Q. You
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  Speaker 2: know what?
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  Speaker 3: I think that I should have known that some weird
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  Speaker 3: shit was going to happen with this game when.
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  Speaker 2: They did the preview for the game.
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  Speaker 3: And we saw that the Steelers quarterbacks walked in there
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  Speaker 3: dressed as the Peaky Blinders. Did they think that this
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  Speaker 3: game was in London?
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  Speaker 2: What was that?
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  Speaker 1: I think that was probably the, you know, Paris is
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  Speaker 1: like the shopping capital of the world. They probably hit
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  Speaker 1: up a couple of stores on the way to the game.
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking that it had something to do with that.
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  Speaker 3: I think that they just had small brains and really
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  Speaker 3: thought that this was a London game or something because
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  Speaker 3: that did not make any sense.
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  Speaker 1: Was there any sort of commotion outside of the stadium
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  Speaker 1: with everything that's going on in France? Did you happen
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  Speaker 1: to see any of that?
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  Speaker 3: Now, I saw that some of the NFL activities got
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  Speaker 3: canceled due to the protests. But other than that, I
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  Speaker 3: think everything was normal. What a weird week for the
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  Speaker 3: discourse of the games abroad, considering all of this was
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  Speaker 3: going on and Roger Goodell announcing that there's going to
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  Speaker 3: be a future game in Tokyo. Talk about being so
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  Speaker 3: just greedy and money hungry and disconnected from your audience
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  Speaker 3: and your players. Because quite frankly, the only people that
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  Speaker 3: want this are the team owners and you because you're
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  Speaker 3: making money off of it. Nobody else wants this. The
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  Speaker 3: fans don't want this. The players don't want this. The
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  Speaker 3: coaches don't want this. I just I don't think that
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  Speaker 3: we've ever been in a time as you know, fans
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  Speaker 3: or a league or just an entity as a whole
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  Speaker 3: where we are so just disconnected from the reality of
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  Speaker 3: where this league is at right now.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we can probably do another 30 minutes on
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  Speaker 1: this talking about business at large. It feels like More
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  Speaker 1: decisions than not are made strictly for the bottom line
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  Speaker 1: and not for the better good of the customer. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's the most you've ever sounded like Aaron Rodgers. That
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  Speaker 1: was exactly what he said after the game that the
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  Speaker 1: that the owners essentially don't care about player safety and
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  Speaker 1: that these games are not necessary. But if you're going
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  Speaker 1: to do it, you stay over there longer.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's such a but then you're taking away more,
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  Speaker 3: you know, games from season ticket holders and fans and
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  Speaker 3: people who money from people who work in those stadiums
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  Speaker 3: and stuff. And that's the part that grinds my gears
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  Speaker 3: the most. But what a polarizing figure Aaron Rodgers is.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if he believes these things or he
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  Speaker 3: changes his mind every couple of months. But he I
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  Speaker 3: just I cannot figure him out for the life of me.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes he's saying the craziest things I've ever heard. And
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  Speaker 3: sometimes I'm like, you know what? That was very well said.
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  Speaker 2: Who are you?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And the thing I'll say, the nice thing I'll say
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  Speaker 1: about Aaron Rogers is that I don't think you can
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  Speaker 1: put him into any sort of box, like right or
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  Speaker 1: left wing, whatever. He is his own person. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that that there's so few of that in the,
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  Speaker 1: in the public eye that I think those people end
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  Speaker 1: up coming across like lunatics because the, everything they say
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  Speaker 1: doesn't fit the bullet point narrative spit out by one
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  Speaker 1: side or the other, but we'll leave it at that.
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  Speaker 1: This game, I had the saints plus three and a half.
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  Speaker 1: It was one of my favorite bets of the day.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how the Steelers were favored by a
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  Speaker 1: field goal plus. And I know I'm going to sound
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  Speaker 1: like the, the bitter sore loser here, but the saints
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  Speaker 1: really should have covered this spread. We got the closing
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  Speaker 1: line value on it. That's a check. They held the
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  Speaker 1: Steelers to three points in the second half. They had
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  Speaker 1: 17 carries for 18 yards. Did the new Orleans saints.
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  Speaker 1: I thought Tyler shuck, you know, you were in the
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  Speaker 1: group chat yesterday. railing on Shuck. I thought he played okay,
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  Speaker 1: but when you're that one dimensional, it's hard to win.
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  Speaker 3: I think that he got really lucky with how many
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  Speaker 3: times he fumbled the ball and they called him down
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  Speaker 3: and just lack of ball security on his part, you know,
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  Speaker 3: whether it's the fumbles, the interceptions or whatever. And I
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  Speaker 3: understand that he was dealing with two broken bones in
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  Speaker 3: his throwing hand and then an injury to his non-throwing hand.
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  Speaker 3: But he got really lucky with some of the calls
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  Speaker 3: made yesterday in his favor. This would have been, I think,
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  Speaker 3: a little bit more you know, one-sided, but shout out
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  Speaker 3: to Rico Dowdle. I think that he had a really, really,
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  Speaker 3: did I just say Rico Dowdle? I meant Jalen Warren. Sorry,
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  Speaker 3: Jalen Warren. I sound like the broadcast yesterday with Jason
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  Speaker 3: Kelsey and everybody calling him Tyler Warren, but injury to
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  Speaker 3: Rico Dowdle, Jalen Warren. I think that he had a
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  Speaker 3: really good game yesterday. And I think that that's kind
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  Speaker 3: of what saved them. I'm still kind of in a
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  Speaker 3: spot where I don't really know what to think about
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  Speaker 3: this Steelers team long-term though, because they certainly have, you know, issues,
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  Speaker 3: but they find ways to win games, which is where
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  Speaker 3: I didn't expect them to be this season with the
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  Speaker 3: coaching turnover, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: But it almost feels like it doesn't matter who their
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  Speaker 2: coach is.
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  Speaker 1: They're the same team, the exact same team. And I
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  Speaker 1: was all over there under in in terms of their
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  Speaker 1: win total going into the season at eight and a half.
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  Speaker 1: I was on the saints over at seven and a half.
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  Speaker 1: This game was not only a loss against the spread.
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  Speaker 1: This was a huge L for my futures for both
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  Speaker 1: of these teams. This game just went exactly the wrong way,
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  Speaker 1: but you're right about the Steelers. They're five and two.
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  Speaker 1: And yet you watch them play and go, how, how
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  Speaker 1: are you five and two? So I will be fading
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  Speaker 1: them going into week eight. This is one of a
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  Speaker 1: couple of bets. I have already placed the Browns at
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  Speaker 1: plus three and a half. First of all, it's the
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  Speaker 1: AFC North. All of these games are decided by three.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And the Steelers just are not this good. So I,
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  Speaker 1: and they're coming back from overseas as well.
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  Speaker 3: I will say, and they played an overtime game last week.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't think that that's a bad shout at all.
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  Speaker 3: I will say though, shout out Daniel Carlson for not
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  Speaker 3: being able to make field goals right now, because that
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  Speaker 3: also helped me with my weird kicking punting prop saying
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  Speaker 3: that I'm on right now.
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  Speaker 2: Cause how do you made that?
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  Speaker 1: I would have lost. So wait, you hit the Carlson
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  Speaker 1: prop that you gave out on the show?
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  Speaker 2: I did hit the Carlson prop.
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  Speaker 1: And you were looking for those Jonah Coleman overs that
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  Speaker 1: hit as well?
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  Speaker 2: Got them, yep.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Hey, remember the last episode you were like,
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm starting to find my niche. And the
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  Speaker 1: niches we're hitting this weekend is what it sounds like.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see.
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  Speaker 3: I've got some stuff to watch back, but we'll have
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  Speaker 3: some picks for next week for sure.
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  Speaker 1: So you had the Falcons plus three and a half
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  Speaker 1: in the contest against the 49ers. Great call by you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure that the dudes that were in your mentions
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  Speaker 1: will be deleting their accounts.
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  Speaker 3: So they've already been responding, asking me to talk, like
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  Speaker 3: explain different coverages without AI and like all of this crap.
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  Speaker 3: And one dude was saying how I, will never know
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  Speaker 3: anything about football because i haven't played football the way
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  Speaker 3: that he has it's like okay.
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  Speaker 1: Just take the l and move on you lost you
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  Speaker 1: lost It's my biggest frustration with internet trolls out there
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  Speaker 1: is like, if you're going to troll before a game,
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  Speaker 1: because of a pick that we make or analysis that
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  Speaker 1: we have, that's fine. That's part of the job. We
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  Speaker 1: accept that when you get it wrong, don't double down
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  Speaker 1: on your criticism. Take the L take the L and
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  Speaker 1: move on. I would, I respect that sort of behavior,
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  Speaker 1: but if you, if you just continue to try and
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  Speaker 1: find other ways. To prove Kendra wrong. She was on
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  Speaker 1: the right side. You are not only wrong. The people
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  Speaker 1: out there, I saw them coming after you in the comments,
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  Speaker 1: talking about how the 49ers are going to blow out
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  Speaker 1: the Falcons. First of all, if that, if that was
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  Speaker 1: the consensus on the game, the spread would have been
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  Speaker 1: bigger than three and a half and it wasn't. Um,
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  Speaker 1: so yeah. Shout out to you. Great call. Thanks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, I just.
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  Speaker 3: After watching both of them play last week, it wasn't
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  Speaker 3: that I had a ton of faith in the Falcons,
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  Speaker 3: like I mentioned on our show on Thursday. They had
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  Speaker 3: some real problems, specifically with ball security and on special teams.
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  Speaker 2: But the 49ers, at some point.
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  Speaker 3: you have to recognize that as good as they have
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  Speaker 3: been working through all of these injuries, they're going to
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  Speaker 3: lose some games when that's, you know, the thing. And
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  Speaker 3: you're coming over here and you're playing an East coast
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  Speaker 3: game at East coast times after a lot of travel
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  Speaker 3: this season.
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  Speaker 2: And you're looking ahead at a bi-week.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't that I think that the Falcons are better
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  Speaker 3: than the 49ers by any means.
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  Speaker 2: It was just a bad spot for them.
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  Speaker 1: It was a very bad spot. And they, and I
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  Speaker 1: think with some of the decisions they made, they admitted
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  Speaker 1: that not having Mike Evans out there is huge for
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  Speaker 1: this team. I bet he could have played. But the
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  Speaker 1: bi-week's coming up. He's got a sore Achilles. Just sit
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  Speaker 1: him down. And then their effectiveness takes a hit because
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  Speaker 1: of it. They didn't have a wide receiver reception until
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  Speaker 1: the second half of this game. It was either McCaffrey
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  Speaker 1: or tight ends. Yeah. So, I mean, it was the
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  Speaker 1: spot perfection. I did not end up betting this game
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  Speaker 1: individually because... I just didn't see value with the projections
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  Speaker 1: that I threw out there for the betting against the 49ers.
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  Speaker 1: I've got them so highly rated this point. It's hard
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  Speaker 1: for me to bet against San Francisco, but I respected
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  Speaker 1: the spot enough to say, well, I'm not just going
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  Speaker 1: to blindly bet into San Francisco because my silly numbers say,
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  Speaker 1: so there's clearly something going on here with the way
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  Speaker 1: that they're managing things going into the bi-week. So good
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  Speaker 1: to see the Falcons pick up a dub at home.
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  Speaker 1: First win of the season at home for them. It
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  Speaker 1: did feel like the 49ers were ready for that bye
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  Speaker 1: week to start. Still hung around because they are that good,
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  Speaker 1: but a great game by Pennix. Three touchdowns. Two of
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  Speaker 1: those touchdowns went to tight ends on National Tight Ends Day,
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  Speaker 1: something that another year goes by, and I just bet
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  Speaker 1: no tight end props on National Tight Ends Day.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like we don't even find out that it's
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  Speaker 3: National Tight Ends Day during the week anymore.
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  Speaker 2: It's like day of, they say it.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a mascot's birthday for a team. Like it's
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  Speaker 1: always on a home game.
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  Speaker 2: You know, did anybody else know that this was happening before?
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  Speaker 3: Like Saturday, somebody called into my Saturday show and they
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  Speaker 3: were like, do you have any national tight ends day props?
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, Oh my God, I didn't even
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  Speaker 3: know that that was tomorrow, but I would probably go
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  Speaker 3: with Tucker craft as like the longest shot possible that
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  Speaker 3: I would reach for. And yeah, They tweeted me yesterday
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  Speaker 3: and they're like, thanks for the, you know, shout. And
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I didn't even book that. And I
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  Speaker 3: just was looking at live odds and who they were playing.
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  Speaker 3: This is nothing to do with me, but I'm glad
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  Speaker 3: that it worked out for you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. David in the, uh, in production says that Brandon
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  Speaker 1: Anderson was all over on the playground episode via action network.
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  Speaker 1: I did see that out there, David. Okay. We're paying attention.
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  Speaker 1: What else goes on out there? But it, I think
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  Speaker 1: that we would, we would forecast it better if it
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  Speaker 1: was a, it was a, if it was a weekday
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  Speaker 1: and you know, we got the day off of work
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  Speaker 1: to celebrate tight ends, but it's always on a Sunday
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  Speaker 1: or we're already off. So maybe that's the reason why.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, Brandon Anderson.
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  Speaker 1: VA. We got you. All right. Uh, moving on lions
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  Speaker 1: minus two and a half. We just squeaked this one.
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  Speaker 2: By dumb luck. Dumb luck.
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  Speaker 3: The officiating in this game was sus.
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  Speaker 1: Very much. So, um, hard to disagree with that. The
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  Speaker 1: lions were still moving the ball down the field at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the game, even without that penalty, the
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  Speaker 1: ridiculous penalty that was called on the Packers for roughing. But, um,
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  Speaker 1: This was dumb luck in a sense that penalties went
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  Speaker 1: our way. Some turnovers went our way, but Jameer Gibbs
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  Speaker 1: could have run the ball in the end zone. And
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  Speaker 1: then if you had a minus three, like I did,
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  Speaker 1: you would have won the bet. Now he made the
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  Speaker 1: right decision football wise to burn the clock, kick the
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  Speaker 1: field goal, just walk out with a win. And because
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  Speaker 1: we got the better number in contest, we still were
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  Speaker 1: able to bag a win in terms of the contest play.
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  Speaker 1: But I think most people out there pushed on this.
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  Speaker 1: And if you were on the lions minus three and
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  Speaker 1: a half, that is why, especially in division, when you've
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  Speaker 1: got two quality teams, if a line goes from two
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  Speaker 1: and a half to three to three and a half,
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  Speaker 1: you have to, you have to just walk away from
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  Speaker 1: the table. You cannot bet into that. And I think
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  Speaker 1: this game is the perfect example of that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's a really good shout.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, as much as we are champions
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  Speaker 3: for betting here, we're also champions for not being dumb.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Exactly. Don't be dumb. Don't be dumb around the
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  Speaker 1: three in the NFL. That's a good rule of thumb.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: The Chiefs didn't cover two and a half. Didn't matter.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: If you got the two and a half, the three,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: you could have gotten a seven. You could have gotten
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: a 15. You wouldn't have covered. The Chiefs were so
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: bad in this game, and everything sort of clicked for
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks. I don't really know even what to
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: say about this. I'm trying to decide in context. digesting
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: this game. If I'm going to completely change my analysis
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: of the Kansas city chiefs, I don't think I I've
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: been thinking this for the last couple of years, my
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: eyes are telling me, and some of the stats back
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: this up, that my homes is not the same guy.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: He's not making this. He doesn't throw with the same
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: sort of gusto that He can't run the same. He
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: can't evade that fumble that almost really iced the game
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: at the end when he took that sack from behind.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Three years ago, he's running away from that defender. He's
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: feeling the pressure, and he's sprinting up the field, and
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: he just got walloped, and somehow he wound up recovering
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: the fumble. But this Chiefs team, I think that this
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: was perhaps the shining example of them being a little
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: bit overrated and us... you know, factoring that in moving forward,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: your thoughts.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: I think it's a couple of things.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: I agree with you for the most part, but I
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: think what we need to remember about the chiefs, especially
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: given their record right now, they play in a really
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: tough division. So the fact that they're able to find success,
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: not over, you know, the last few years, but in
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: the beginning of this season is impressive. But I don't
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: know if it's there's clearly like an age thing where
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: they are aging out of being a super team, because I,
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: in my heart of hearts, believe that this has been
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: a super team. But the thing is, is that you
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: have to remember that because they're an older team, I
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: feel like that's what they do well is those little
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: things like the like the inexplainable things. Like they know
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: decisions to make. They can read coverages better because they've
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: seen it a thousand times. But the thing is, is
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: that when you play good teams, your, you know, intangibles don't.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: matter as much because those teams have so much more
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: talent than you and they're so much more athletic than
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: you because you're just getting old and you haven't retooled
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: in the way that i think you should additionally because
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: of all the legal issues you've had your team and
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: your offense hasn't been together a whole lot like you
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: guys have had to you know filter people in and
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: out of different positions and stuff like that and i
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: don't think that that helps them in any way either
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: so I think the only thing keeping them afloat is
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: the fact that they have a lot of older guys
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: who can just work their asses off. But when you
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: play good teams like Seattle, they're just not athletic enough anymore, unfortunately.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: It was a great buy low for those that bet
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: on the Seahawks. It was clearly the sharp side. I
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: think that this was one of the worst reads I
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: had on the entire season. This just was at no
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: point was ever the right decision to make a heavily
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: public side in prime time where you're buying high on
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: the chiefs and selling at the low point on the
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. That's just not the way to bet the NFL.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: And so that was very much a look myself in
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: the mirror situation. I put that into the contest. I
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: deserve the L because that was terrible analysis by me.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I was part of it because I bet this too.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Emerson wholeheartedly agreed. And then you just sort of kind
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: of gave in. You already burned your veto. Yeah.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, I don't think that I
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: definitely didn't love Kansas city before this game by any means.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: I thought that this was a Seattle spot, but I had.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Burned my veto and I didn't have enough of an opinion,
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: but yeah, Yeah, man, dude. And Harrison Butker, here's the
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: other thing we have to talk about this week. I
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: think that this is one of the points that because
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: I am obviously a special teams dork, as we've learned
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks, what are some of these
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: teams going to do about their kicking situation, man? I mean,
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: you look at what happened with the Rams. You look
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: at what's going on with the Saints. You look at
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: what's going on with Harrison Butker. There really is like
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: an issue with kickers in.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: The league right now.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: And I think that that's why some of these guys
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: are still hanging on to the jobs that they've had
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: despite the misses is because you look at what the
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Rams are going through, trying to find a kicker after,
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: you know, they let a guy go and other guy.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Tears an ACL.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Like there is just, I think the kicking that we're
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: used to over the last decade or so has kind
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: of come and gone and because who do you even
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: go pick up anymore you're going to have the same
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: issues whether you let your guy go or go get
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: somebody else you're probably going to be worse off because
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: they're already integrated into your team in your locker room
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: and whatever how what do you do if you have
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: a shit kicker right now i really don't think that
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: you can afford to let the guy go you just
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: got to kind of keep rocking with it i i don't.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Know how much longer you can go if you have
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: a kicker that you can't trust i would just hold
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: tryouts and hope that you get lucky i think there
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: are there have to be NFL ready kickers that are
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: out there that just aren't being given the opportunity. Now
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: trusting that based on what you see in a scrimmage
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: or any sort of practice and what you actually see
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: on a Sunday when the lights are on is completely different,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: but it's very weird the way that these guys drop off.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Harrison Butker is 31 years old. There's no reason that
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: this guy should have lost all. He was once the
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: best kicker in the league and now he lines up
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: for a 35 yard field goal and I'm like, No
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: idea if this is going in.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Daniel Carson too.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: When he was with the Raiders, he was hitting like
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: 60 yard field goals and now he can't hit anything
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: over 50. I mean, it's the same exact thing. Like
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: I just, I don't know what it is. I don't
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: know what's going on with the kickers. We're seeing these
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: kids on freaking college game day, make these field goals,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: like no problem winning these, you know, multimillion dollar checks,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: but you can't show up on a Sunday and do it.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I just, I really don't know what's going on, but
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: I feel like everybody kind of just has to sit
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: and hold with their shit kicker.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Because everybody has a shit kicker right now.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. What I would want is I
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: would need my kicker to be sub 25 years old.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I need someone with a big boot that's at their
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: peak of physical athleticism who is too young and dumb
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: to have real thoughts. I think these guys, there's a
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: very select few that are able to hold on to
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: their prime athletically while also keeping their shit together mentally
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: because it's a mental game. And let's not gloss over
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: the fact that Harrison Butker has pretty much sucked consistently,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: or at least not as good as he was ever
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: since he was in the news. Yep. It's a mental game.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: And I think that that has had a real effect
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: on him.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I would agree.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Pretty good week for the favorites. Evan, I know
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: we'll bring you on later, but he said, all you
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: have to do is go two and three. You cannot
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: go one and four. Oh, and five after the five
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: and a week. This was a great way to, back
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: it up. I do have a receipt for you though.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: You got to prove it to me.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: I got to see evidence.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I'll show you the receipts.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: You don't believe me.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I have the receipt for it right here. You know,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I did try to slide the bucks into the contest
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: and you weren't having it an ineffective use of the
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: veto shame and shade to you. Not only do the
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: bucks win and cover the, It was a rocking chair.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: The Panthers were never involved in this football game. That was...
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, where would I be this week without that one?
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: But we could have had it. I didn't need the Saints.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: I also wanted the Colts to cover six and a half.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, I know that that was a little bit closer,
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: and I covered by the skin of my teeth, but.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: And thank God we didn't put the freaking....
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Cardinals in there because i also wanted them and they
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: shit the bed yesterday too yeah big time uh i
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: know i was.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: You know i was thinking well you know kendra's gonna
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: have to apologize to baker mayfield uh nope he had
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with that victor we'll get to that
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: in a moment because they are my cash of the
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: week brief tease for you middleton what is your one
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: big takeaway from week seven so far.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: My one big takeaway is I hate the refereeing and
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: I hate all of the penalties going on, but we
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: need to have a serious conversation. about these punches that
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: are being thrown that are allegedly these like peanut style
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: punches at the football when in reality most of these
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: punches if you're watching these games specifically there was one
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: yesterday that's you know kind of all over Twitter and
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: that I saw happen in real time which I also
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: tweeted about I believe it was Dre Greenlaw on Kyle
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Pitts I could be wrong about who the two players
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: were but I believe that's correct where he just throws
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: a punch. And there are multiple instances of this, but
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: they slowed this one down so people could see it.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Goes to punch the ball, punches his helmet.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: Which it had to hurt Dre Greenlaw more than it
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: hurt Kyle Pitts. But the thing is, is that the
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: last couple of weeks, I have seen guys throwing these punches.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: And they're not even landing on the ball. They're landing
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: in their kidney shots. They're, you know, rib shots. They're
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: just throwing punches for the sake of pretending to kind
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: of punch the ball or they think that they're punching
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: at the ball or whatever. We cannot have people out
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: here just throwing freaking haymakers at people and, you know,
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: the spirit of it being punching the ball. I'm sorry
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: that can't happen because as last season went, as this
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: season went, we're seeing more and more of these star
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: players being in running backs and quarterbacks get injured. And
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: if you want to keep the game entertaining, if you
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: want to keep people watching, those star players have to
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: stay in these games. And you cannot have these guys
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: on defense just going out there and throwing punches at people.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: And I love how.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Many turnovers there have been in the season so far
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: this year. I think that it has made the games
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: super interesting. It has kept teams in games, but we
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: cannot have haymakers, just the kidney shots, just being throttled
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: at people like that cannot happen.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: So I'm curious, Evan, when we bring you on later,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: if you have fumble stats compared to other years, I
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: would love to have those. Cause I've seen these, this punch,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: this peanut punch more frequently this year. It seems like
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: every year we see it a little bit more and more.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: It feels to me just like your, your two touchdown
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: feel from a couple of weeks ago. It feels like
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: we're seeing an uptick in fumbles compared to previous seasons.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: And I think there is a direct correlation there. Between
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: the two, whether it's good for the game or not,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know. For me, it depends on what side
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: of the bed I'm on that my bias in the
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: moment as to whether or not I like it. But
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I think if they are to get rid of that.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: They have to give something back to the defense. The
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: reason that defenders are doing this is because so much
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: has been taken away from them with their advantages of
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: being able to get physical with an offensive player that
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: this is their way of saying, okay, well, if we
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: have to give up big plays because we can't touch anybody,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: then at least we can knock the ball out. It
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: seems like this is the counter to that.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I and if you hit the ball
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: or you're close enough, fine. But like in the instances
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: like yesterday or where you're just like kidney shotting these
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: guys like that has to be a penalty.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Like so you're saying that if you you can go
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: if you were making the rule, if Kendra was commish
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: for a day, you would make the rule where the
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: punch is legal. But if you don't land it on
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: the football, it's a penalty.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Or somewhere believable.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, if someone's holding the ball in this whatever
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: three-point thing that they've been showing, fine. If you land
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: anywhere here, cool with that. And if you're listening to
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: this and not watching it, I'm so sorry. But if
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: you're landing shots on anyone's side ribs or their back
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: or their kidneys or whatever else, Like, I'm sorry, that's
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: not close enough for me to believe that you're punching
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: at the football. There is a very specific area where
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: these guys are holding the football, and it is not
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: their kidneys or their ribs.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Like, it's just, it's not.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Punch. I think I would do, like, the hand gesture
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: that they're going to come up with for this. Punch
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: outside of the vicinity of the ball carrier 15 yards.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: First down.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: I just, it's getting to a point where we've seen
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: enough people go down and I know that it takes,
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: and it takes so much away from the defense with
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: these roughing the passer calls and whatever else. But if
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: you want to keep people interested, you've got to keep
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: the quarterbacks and, you know, the Jameer Gibbs and the
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey's of the world healthy. I'm sorry, you do.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: That's the moneymaker. That's what people are watching. I'm not
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: here to watch, you know, more backup quarterback football.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you that.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I dig it. It's not boxing. It's football. So let's
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: find a way to get that right. We have much
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: to get to. Cash, crash, clutch. We've got our Monday
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  Speaker 1: We're dead in the water.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: If it crashes, it crashes, right?
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Never stood a chance.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: No, it was cash.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: So clutch.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Let's get to it. Cash, crash, clutch of the week.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Get us started, Kendra. Who is your cash of the week?
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: It had to be the Falcons.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: I know we already talked about them, but with the
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: amount of crap people were talking to me online. And
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: can I just say that 49ers fans are my least
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: favorite fans in the NFL?
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: They always have been.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Like, I think that I've talked about this before, how
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: like one of them pulled my hair and like I
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: got in a fight with one of them last year
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: when I was out there.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: They're just evil.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: And so for me to take a victory lap that
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: they lost to the freaking Atlanta Falcons on that has
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: to be my cash all day long.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was, uh, that was pretty sweet. I haven't
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: gone back to, so when that happens and you get
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: trolled like that, are you going to, to seek those
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: people out? Are you waiting to see what their followup is?
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: What's the tact for you and how you handle that online?
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: It's usually just, it depends how bad that it was.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Like with the amount of people that were jumping on
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: it yesterday, or if you say something heinous to me,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: of course, I'm going to take a victory lap. Like
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: there was a guy last year who emailed my radio
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: station and mess, like commented on a bunch of my
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: stuff with my preseason bet for the Panthers saying that
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: I was an idiot. And the only reason I had
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: a job was because I was a woman. I took
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: a pretty hard victory lap on that guy. But if
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: you're cool and you're just, you know, talking normal crap,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: like I'll let you live. But if you're going to,
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: you know, Say some real crazy shit. I'm going to
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: take a victory lap.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: As you should. My cash is on the Bucs defense.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: The Bucs run game. Everybody except for Baker Mayfield. Baker
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Mayfield wasn't bad. He was just a bystander to the situation.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: The man threw for 64 yards. He had six pass
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: attempts in the first half. The Bucs had 17 rushing
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: first downs in this game. Three via the arm of
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. Tampa won the coin toss. They got the ball,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: ran right down the field. It was game over after that.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: It was all bucks all day. It was awesome.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Did you see Bucky Irving when he got tackled and
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: like kicked one of the refs? There were two ref
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: kickings yesterday, but this one was by far the less egregious,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: more funny one.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Because once again, I'm sorry if you're listening.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: To this as a podcast and not watching it on YouTube,
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: but this is literally what Bucky Irving did yesterday to
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: a ref.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: He goes, It was so insane. I was so high.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: On my couch and I saw that happen and I
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: just like tears started coming from my eyes because it
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: was so cartoon worthy.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: If that was not a vote for watch the podcast
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: on YouTube, I got nothing else for you.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Gifford said we missed it. Do it again. I can
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: do it again for you guys.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Hold on. Here we go. There it is. There's no
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: chance that doesn't end up online as a clip.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: The Bucky Irving, ladies and gentlemen.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to find this clip on Twitter. I can't
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: see it. I don't know.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I liked it. I'm sure I can find it when
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: we get off of here. It was very good.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: My, uh, oh, also by the way, on that game, the, uh,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: the Panthers lost Taylor Moten in this game, rough watch
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: for Carolina. They had this division of stranglehold. If they
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: had won, they would have been foreign to in the
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: NFC South, which is like having a five game lead.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: They blew it. The good news is, is I think.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: This creates some buying opportunities in the future. Not necessarily
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: on Thursday night. I'm not ready to jump in just yet,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: but this is when you buy Carolina is this moment
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: where they're doubted, they're struggling. And all of a sudden
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: they're catching three and a half, four and a half points,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: especially if they're at home, that's when you want Carolina.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: So I'm not saying jump on them at this moment.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying that we will, if not this week,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: within the next three weeks, we will be betting on
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: the Panthers.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: And I know that this was a really good moment
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: for Tampa Bay, but I have to say it doesn't
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: make me feel like I want to run to bet
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: on Tampa Bay moving forward because of how Baker looks.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: You can't do that every single week.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Definitely not. Their defense is good. It's not one of
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: the best ever. Bucky Irving was amazing. They have the
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Falcons this week, and they're favored by a point and
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: a half. this is a weird spot for both teams.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Cause you're buying high. It's like, who do you choose
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: to buy high on? I'm going to let the, let
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: the market decide where that goes. My crash of the week,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: the Raiders season Raiders futures Raiders, everything they have successfully
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: blown a three Oh, start to the season. Hard to
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: do a disaster playoff tickets.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: All of it.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Just set them on flames. They are done. They have
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: now lost four straight. They've been blown out twice in
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: the last three games. I think Kirk cousins was bad
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: early on, but he wasn't really the problem. The defense
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: isn't good. And the biggest issue I have with this team,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Kendra is Ashton. Yeah, this was a bad draft pick.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: You take a guy, they took him sixth overall a
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: year ago. You have to be an all-time talent at
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: running back. I'm okay drafting running backs in the first round.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: I'm not one of these people that say you cannot
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: do it. But you better be drafting Bijan Robinson. You
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: better be drafting Jameer Gibbs or Christian McCaffrey. If you're not,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: it's a total waste. You have to be all-time great.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: This guy has been bad. 1.9 per carry in this game.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Last three weeks, his rushing totals, 27, 22, and 15 runs.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: That's their biggest problem to one dimensional and they're bad
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: on defense, bad combo.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: And that's the other thing is that like, you can't
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: even really look to trade a guy like that because
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: you invested so much in him. And I don't, he's
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: not good enough to be the Saquon card where he's
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: a finishing piece for somebody else on a bad team.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: So what do you even really do with him to
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: make it worth it, to make it worth that pick?
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: I really don't know.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: There's not a whole lot you can do unless... And
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: nobody needs a running back bad enough to overpay that price.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just... And for him, it's dump-offs or nothing.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: If you look at his receiving totals, it's fine. Maybe
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: if you have him in fantasy.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Receiving totals are decent.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: But I don't... But, like, none of that... It's not
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: like he's not... He's not a route runner. He's not
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: out there helping to, he's not helping the pass game.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: He's a, he's a release valve for when nothing's available.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: That's not a real part of your offense. So, um,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: he's a guy I'm, I'm definitely down on and he
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: was somebody. I had the Raiders to make the playoffs.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I had Ashton Gentry offensive player of the year as
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: one of my long shot bets. I mean, we're just
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: this week. I am lighting tickets on fire from the
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: preseason left and right.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: I feel bad for you.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Everything like really worked out in my favor this week,
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: which I know that that means that my week for,
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: you know, hell is coming, but I, I feel for you.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: I really do.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: At the close of the season, we're all good.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my crash is going to be the Carolina Panthers.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: I know we just talked about them, but the reason
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: that they are going to be my crash is because
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: I thought that this was a spot in the schedule
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: where they could build some momentum in the division because
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: I love to talk about the schedule.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: They have a really, really tough season.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Time finishing out this this you know next two-thirds of
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: the season here they're gonna play some really tough teams
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: coming up they're gonna go on the road for the
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: Packers Broncos they're gonna get the Saints which is fine
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: Ravens they're gonna play the Bucks again Vikings Bengals Steelers
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: Seahawks finish with the Falcons That's a tough go of
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: things for the Carolina Panthers. And I really am optimistic
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: about the coaching and Bryce Young getting back on track
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: and them utilizing Tedaroa McMillan the same way they were
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: in the early weeks of the season. But with the
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: next couple of games that they have being the Packers
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: and the Broncos, it's tough to get right against teams
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Let's play one of my favorite games, which is guess
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: this week's divisional odds in the NFC South. Who do
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: you think is favored to win this division right now?
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: I would say probably the bucks.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: It is not. In fact, you can still get the
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: bucks at plus four 50. Wow.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Who is it? Is it the Panthers?
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: It is the Carolina Panthers. The Panthers are plus one 30.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Who is betting that right now? Nobody. I hope half
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: game up on Atlanta. They're one game up on Tampa.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: That is wow. No, no, thank you on that. Yeah.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: That's a, you know, plus four 50, not the worst time.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: There's always a bet. I feel like there's always a
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: bet to be made in the NFC South because this
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: division just sort of like returns itself every single week. Yep. Okay.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: So those are our cash. Those are our crash clutch.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: I have Gifford hates when we do this. So I'm
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: going to, I'm trying, I'm still trying to whittle this
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: down to one because there's so many good ones this week.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I'll let you go first. Maybe, maybe you'll take one
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: of the ones that I have off my plate.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to say my clutch had to
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: be I have two different things here because I want
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: to say that it would be the New York Giants
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: because one, I hate the Houston Texans. Two, it helps
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: my future. And three, just the J.J. McCarthy factor of
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: it all, which I know you had written down. So
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: I have to say the New York Giants and J.J. McCarthy,
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: because who really expected that from him yesterday? When we
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: talked about this game, when we previewed it, we were
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: sitting here like, OK, there's one of two ways that
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: they can go with this. And I said that they're
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: either going to dumb this down for him and try
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: and make it easy, or they're going to let him
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: go out there and sling the ball the way that
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: he did in.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: The second half last week.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: And I thought that that was the better option, despite
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: the fact that he is JJ McCarthy and he will
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: turn the ball over. And I'm glad that they did
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: this because this was a game where they were expected
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: to get their ass kicked, not just by their own.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Fans, by the books, by the national view.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Everything was this was supposed to be the week where
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: they just get their shit pushed in. And they went
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: out there and they let JJ McCarthy sling the football.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: And that's exactly what he did. And I think it
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: changes a lot of conversations, not only in the division,
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: if he can continue to play that way, obviously is
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: one thing, but seeing that version of him yesterday has
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: to kind of make the NFC East to be like, well,
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know what's going to go on here now,
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: because if he looks like that and they're, It's the
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: coaching too, man. It's the coaching. What a day for
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: them yesterday. The Jaguars were off, still getting Ws. Good
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: for J.J.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: McCarthy. Thank you to the New York Giants. What a time.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: You're right about the coaching. I think that's a huge
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: factor in all of this. J.J. McCarthy, kind of his
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: own story. But what John Harbaugh did in putting pressure
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: on that backfield, saying somebody's got to step the fuck up.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: And they, that's what, at the end of the game,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: when they needed a win and overtime, that's what won
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: them the game. And, and cam Scataboo was one of
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: the best running backs on the day, 124 yards on
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: the ground and a touchdown. He was challenged by Harbaugh
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: where some other coaches might not do that. Um, and he,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: John Harbaugh publicly challenged those guys. They stepped up. Devin
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Singletary was huge at the end of that game. And yeah, JJ,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: who the hell saw that coming 20 of 28 to
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: 52 and 99 passer rating. I think that he is
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: just dumb enough to be the right kind of quarterback
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: to take advantage of a Texans defense that is clearly overrated.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: We need to come to terms with that, but they
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: can still get after the passer. And if you're aggressive
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: against them, you can flip the field on them. And
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: he just, he was throwing darts down the field. This
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: was not like a dink and dunk kind of passing
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: game from him.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, it kind of reminds me
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: of your point with young kickers. I think that he's
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: just young enough to not let the moment get to
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: his head because he can't fathom how big the moment is.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: And the fact that he had a new coach to
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: kind of coach him up in a way that he
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: wasn't used to, I think did him a lot of favors.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: What do you think Jackson Dart was thinking as he's
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: watching this?
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: Um, I don't think Jackson's nervous for his job at all,
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: but it does invite the question of, OK, let's say
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: that he goes out there, wins them the division and
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: they make the playoffs.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: And, you know, Baker continues to suck.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: We're going to have to have conversations about Jalen Daniels
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: and JJ McCarthy in the next couple of weeks. And
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: I think that both of those things are going to
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: be something that we have to do because I don't
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: see Baker getting any better.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: And.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: I think that the coaching in New York is good
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: enough for JJ to have a turnaround of his career.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: But once again, I don't see it being any different
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: than the Sam Darnold career where he looks good enough
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: on a good team to have some good moments.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: But in reality, who actually is he?
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: The Bucs already paid Baker, so they've kind of already
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: made their bed. If JJ McCarthy gets this team to
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: the playoffs and they win the NFC East, The Giants
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: have to look at Jackson Dart and say, well, we
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: like you, but you sure do have a problem staying healthy.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: And you'll be coming back off of an ACL injury.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: And we have this other guy that we really like, who,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: by the way, looks just like you. I think there's
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: more to that.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken, JJ is a class before Jackson, right?
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Are they the same class? When would they both be
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: due to be paid? I think that's another thing we
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: need to consider here.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy's clock is one year ahead.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I think so as well. I think something is something
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: that they would have to factor in.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: My clutch will be the Miami dolphins off the buy.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Wasn't sure that was going to matter very much. I
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: missed a golden opportunity to bet on my favorite team,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: but I didn't. I'm proud. Nonetheless, 28 to 25 after
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: the jets made a late push, they converted a two
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: point try. It's fourth and one. At the Jets 49,
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: I thought the Dolphins were handing the game to the Jets.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: I thought, what a Dolphins move. Go for it on
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: fourth and one, which is the right decision to make.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: But I thought for sure they're not going to get it.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Tush push. They convert the first down. Dolphins seal the victory.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Officially not going winless. I could cry, but I will
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: hold it in like a real man.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: You want to know why I am actually so happy
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: for you in this moment, selfishly? Because you know who
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: the worst team in the NFL is now, thanks to that?
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Would that be the Titans?
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: It would be the Chargers.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Oh my God, that's right. I forgot about that. I
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: kind of forgot that the Chargers were in the NFL
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: for a minute.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: It would be the Chargers.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: I believe that they are the owners of the first
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: overall pick at the moment.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Wow. How funny would that be? What a, what a
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: fun off season conversation. I don't even know that there's
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: a quarterback in this draft class that's worth going number
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: one overall, but I'm, I'm sure that we'll force somebody
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: to the top of that list.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: You think they'd go quarterback?
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: I kind of do. I kind of like you've been,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: you've been talking about this for weeks now. Do you
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: got to look at trading Justin Herbert and kind of
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: just start a new, I think I could see them
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: at the end of the year, just gutting the front
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: office and, gutting the coaching staff.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: I don't think they got the code.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: I think the coach days, they might be because your,
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: your problem before the coach is the same after the coach.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: It's the quarterback.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I have a crazy stat for you that I saw
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: on the pregame show on NBC, by the way, Mike
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Tomlin crushing it. Mike Tomlin, Taylor, the, the chemistry between
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: those two.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: Tremendous crushing it. I am obsessed with the Mike Tomlin show.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. They brought this up. The jets, their head coach,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn has been outscored 107 to six in the
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: final two minutes of the first half during his time
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: with New York. I will say that one more time
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: for the people in the back one Oh seven to
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: six in the final two minutes of the first half
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: during his time with the jets, the last two seasons.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Do we think he survives? No, I don't think so either.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: I do not, but they did. They set him up
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: to fail to be fair.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Oh God, the jets have the Raiders. This is a really,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: this is going to be a really hard week. Really,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: really week eight is going to be tough because you've
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: got these teams that are headed in the right, in
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: the same direction that are playing against each other. And
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: we have to decide who we believe in less or
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: more and all of that. Also, it's not an official
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: clutch of the week because I already gave one, but
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and the Browns are five and two Deshaun
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Watson has five. Game winning drives in the fourth quarter.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: I told you they'd be my P words this year.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Nobody believed me. No, everybody laughed. Everybody laughed at me.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: I'm still laughing at you, but that's just out of stubbornness.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Who is your diva of the week? He's just a diva. No,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: An impossible diva.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: What would make you say something like that?
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: It's pretty obvious. Diva alert! Okay, I have two. You
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: can take... Actually, I'm going to let you take the one.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: That you like better. You go first here. I gave
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: us two for you to steal one. Whichever one you
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: like better, you take.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so peek behind the curtain. We share notes here.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: I just didn't... I couldn't fall in love with anything
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: for diva of the week. I felt like I was
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: forcing it. Um, I am, I'm going to give it
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: to the chiefs fans losing it in the comments of
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks friendship bracelet post. I did not even see that,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: but that, that you're going to have to explain that. Okay.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: That'll be my choice is the chiefs fans.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Okay. So do you know about the Taylor Swift friendship
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: bracelet thing?
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, of course.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: So the Seahawks social media team posted a picture of
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: two of the friendship bracelets and it says Seahawks win. Um,
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: And the Swifties lost their shit in the comments of
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: this post. Just the stereotypical, like, you might have won
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: a Super Bowl last year, but we've won all these
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: Super Bowls in the last couple of years.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: And how dare you guys? And you hate women and blah, blah, blah.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: It was awesome.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: The fact that you freaks who have cared about football
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: for half an hour are losing your shit over a
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: friendship bracelet post is just a trophy of how soft
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: you actually are. This could have been so much worse
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: and you're losing it over a freaking friendship bracelet.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Get in the back of the damn line.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Are you sure 49ers fans are the worst if that's
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: the way they're reacting to this? The Chiefs fans might
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: be zooming to the top.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: Because that's the thing is that like my friendship bracelet
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: would make them cry. Whereas if I like a 49ers
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: fan is mad at me, they're going to pull my
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: hair and spit on me. So I'd rather you just
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: cry that I'm wearing a freaking friendship bracelet than pull
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: my hair.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: I have to be honest.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: My diva of the week is going to be the
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: ref that fell on to Amon Ra and he's like
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: laying there like plank boarded on the floor and still
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: just pulls his flag out and throws it while he's
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: just like laying dead on the ground. And everyone's like
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: surrounding him when he fell into Amun-Ra, by the way.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: And just the way that he's laying there and just
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: still reaches for his flag to throw is so theatrical
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: and diva-esque.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: It had to be included.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: The refs have been on one this year. It feels
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: like every week we've got some story of refs doing
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: something that's just a little bit extra.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Did you see the clip that I'm talking about?
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: No, I swear we're on different internets.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: I really don't know how, to be honest, because everybody
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: else that I work with is like, my internet has
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: been infiltrated with everything that you post. And I'm not
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: even sorry about it. You're the only one that's not.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: By the way, I don't know if you saw this,
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: but in the other thing in the Lions Packers game,
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: the one of the Packers players like jumped offside. And
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: did you see all the Lions fans like the Lions
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: players like doing like the peanut dances?
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: So good. That was also awesome. That's not like a
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: diva move. but they just, the way that they all
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: started doing like the same moves at the same time,
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: when you like look at all the different angles of it,
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: it was multiple people and it was very, very well done.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: I thought in some respects, Tom Brady reacting on the broadcast,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: the Fox broadcast of Packers Lions as a, as emotionally
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: and aggressively as he did for that. It was a
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: horrendous roughing call on the Packers defender on Jared golf.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: It was a perfect tackle. I mean, that's the kind
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: of stuff that you would teach the player. This is
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: how you tackle a quarterback. Don't land on them off
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: to the side. Didn't make helmet to helmet contact. It
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: was picture perfect. He gets called for a flag to
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: the Packers win the game. If that's not called, I
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: don't know. So it is what it is, but How
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: many times did Brady benefit from a call just like that?
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: And for him to be the one, I agree with him,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: but for him to be the one that gets that
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: upset about it, I felt that was a little bit.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, I do. I agree with
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: you about the fact that he, but like at the
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: same time, he got a lot of those calls, but
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: good for him for calling it out. You know, like
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: I get, like I said earlier, we've got to keep
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: the quarterbacks healthy to keep this entertaining. But at the
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: same time, like it's still tackle football at the end
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: of the day. If we wanted to watch flag football,
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: like there are plenty of leagues where that's an option now,
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: but it, There was one a couple of weeks ago
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: that we even talked about, too, that I can't remember.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: I want to say it was also maybe a Lions game.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Was it a Lions game? I don't remember.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's been a consistent topic of conversation. And
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: that's the thing. When we're sitting here doing our shows
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: on Monday, I don't want to be talking about penalties
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: and roughing the passer and all of the diva stuff
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: that the refs are doing.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: I want to be talking about the game.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: I need as little involvement from you guys as possible, actually.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: How easy would it be? It's like the ABS challenge
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: in baseball is a perfect example. Tap yourself on the head.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Look at the highlight for half a second and go, oh, nevermind.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Picking up the flag. How hard would that be?
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: I think it's going to come to a point where
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: it's going to be like challenging, but you're going to
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: be able to challenge like flags and stuff like that.
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: I think that that's where this is headed, to be honest.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: Let's bring in the Oracle, Evan Abrams. Evan, welcome to
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: the show. I have a fun stat for you. Are you,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: are you ready? You have your thing. Yeah, give it
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: to me. What do you got? QB Gami. Do you
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: follow this account on social media? I've seen it before.
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Great follow. So 64 yards, a touchdown, no interceptions. That
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: was Baker Mayfield stat line, not a QB Gami. This
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: is not a unique stat line. This has happened three
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: times before. Most recently, the great Dick Bartle. In 2011.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: So there you go. There's your fun fact of the day.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Do with that what you will. How you doing, my friend?
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: I'm doing well. I love Rich Bartle. What a good guy.
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: I'm going to answer your fumble stats, though. The thing
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: you brought up before, I found it kind of interesting.
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: It was one way of looking at it. So there's
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: been 219 games so far this season where a player
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: had one fumble or more. So different ways to look
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: at the stat, obviously. I just think it feels like
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: it's a lot because it was only 196 last year.
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: but if you look further feels about right in history
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: but 196 last week at this point was like the
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: lowest we've ever seen so I think you might just
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: be remembering their little thumbers last season eventually.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: This is why we go to the numbers the feeling
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: was not right in in this regard um how did
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: you fare on national tight ends.
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: Day uh you always pick the wrong tight ends but
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: craft was easy I liked craft so that one was
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: good um agreed with Kendra there uh one fun thing
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: about this coming week The Cleveland Browns can go over
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: their win total. So they will be the first team
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: to execute on that. And the Chargers can't go under
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: for like another week or two.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Nine and a half. They'd have to be like eight.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: The Rams have to be getting close, right? They're 11
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: and a half. I have their under as well.
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm doing a little bit of math. I think, yes, three.
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: But they've got a little bit of room. But yes,
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: the Browns. First team that can go over this week.
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: That would be a fun story. Some crazy trends that
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: just continue to roll on as we go through the NFL.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: Six plus point favorites, 8, 21, and 3 against the spread.
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: Second worst start ATS in the Super Bowl era. And
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: 2024 was the worst. So recently, big favorites early season
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: have been absolutely atrocious.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: This one was fun.
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: So teams who entered the year with the double digit
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: win total, basically teams we thought were great. versus teams
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: under that mark, they're now 14-27-3 against the spread. Worst
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: start ATS since 99. So it's been a long time since...
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: I don't want to say got it wrong because cover's
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: a bit different than win, but those teams are just
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: not coming through for betters.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: And this is kind of my most... I would say
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: that if you are doing the... I'm just going to...
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: If you were fading the most popular survivor pick every
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: week and not just that team against the spread, but
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: taking them on the money line to your point, you
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: would be up a lot right now. Charge the Cardinals
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season zoom to this week,
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: the giants against the Texans. It's like, it feels like
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: every week the box against the Cowboys where we, we go, okay,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: well that's, that's the locked up victory of the week.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: It feels like most weeks that team is losing.
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, even when you look at those six-plus-point favorites,
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: 22-10 straight up. Ten losses, decent amount through seven weeks.
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: This is the one that's got me, though. The teams
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: with the rest advantage. So literally any team with the
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: rest advantage entering the game, one day or more, 23-8
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: straight up, 22-8-1 against the spread. Best-marked ATS since 94.
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: Crazy part is when that team with the rest advantage
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: is a favorite, they're 18-1 this year straight up. They
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: were 7-0 last week. And then of those 31 teams
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: that have had that rest advantage, 29-2 in a 6.2s.
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: So really just taking care of business, keeping games close,
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: doing the job at least early season. Obviously, a ton
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: of matches when we start getting into these weeks. So
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: this week, it looks like you have seven games or
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: one team's on a rest advantage. So this has to
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: come down to earth, but insane start.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Browns plus three and a half. They fit the mold.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Does that count as a rest advantage when you have
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: a team that's traveling from overseas? Absolutely.
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: This is only, when I say rest advantage, it's purely days.
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: So Browns don't even, it's literally days advantage.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: Evan, great stuff as always. Good luck tonight. Appreciate it.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: Thanks, guys.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Let's get into our Monday night football. Same game parlay
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: brought to you by draft Kings. I'll take the Eagles
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: plus four and a half. I don't know what you've
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: seen from the Cowboys that makes you think they can
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: cover four and a half on the road against a
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: good defense. I think the Eagles defense is good. The
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: offense is abysmal right now. They've managed 16 and 13
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: points in the last two weeks. Since last year, Dak
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: is three and 11 against the spread when listed as
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: a favorite in the regular season. I'll take Philadelphia.
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: I like it, especially because you know that they're going
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: to get up to play for Jalen tonight. I wanted
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: to be on Saquon props because I think that he's
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: the obvious answer here, but those just the numbers are
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: not where I want them to be because of all
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: the injuries and whatnot. So I'm going to say that
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: this is going to be somewhat of a breakout game
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: for Makai Lemon. I'm going to go over 37 and
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: a half receiving yards for him because other than the
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: tight ends, who.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: The fuck else do they have to throw the football to?
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: Let's be honest.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: They are definitely running out of bodies at this point.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: I thought for sure you were going to hit me
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: with a kicking prop. You've been so hot with those.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: Well, I did look at them, but none of them
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: really were where I wanted to be. I think the
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: punt total was sitting around 7.5. I think that the
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: kickers were sitting around 8.5 points each.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: Way too high for my cheap blood. Couldn't go there.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: Let's see. What's the weather in Philadelphia tonight? You've got
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: to factor the weather into your analysis, too.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: I think it's got to be good tonight. It's good here.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: That's not too far away from me.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: Nine mile an hour. Wind gusts 65. That'll be fine. Okay.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: So let's slam these together and see what comes out
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: on the other end. McKay 11, McKay lemon over 37
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: and a half receiving yards. I've got the Eagles plus
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: four and a half. So we're heavy on the Philly side.
• 57:50
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• 58:07
  Speaker 3: I feel really good. I had a good week. I I'm,
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: I'm good to go. I kept my notes yesterday. Going
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: to go back and watch some games. I know that
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: this coming, you know, slate is going to be pretty tough,
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: but I'm feeling optimistic.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: I do too. Weirdly. I had a bad week, but
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: I am not in a, sunken state of depression. And
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: I feel like that is growth.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: That is growth. Good for you. And now you have Mal.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: And what?
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Now you have Mallory. She's, you know, she's on the vibe.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: So yeah, my wife Mallory is betting now too. It
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: has just changed the game at the house. It's just,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: it's been pure bliss. And every once in a while
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: she listens to me. She really likes to listen to
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: you more than me. And maybe this week that worked
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: out well. I think she made more money than I did.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: Well, we're besties, so.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll see what you cook up on Thursday. We'll
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: be back at it. Week eight preview in the NFL.
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