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#282 - Tucker vs. PBD: The Faith & Finances Showdown! · Brandon Fogal Evolution

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Tucker Carlson and Patrick Bette David have some beef going right now,
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and it seems like there's something new every day. It's like we're all in high school again.
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We're just, you know what somebody said about somebody? Or, you know,
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I can't believe she just said that. She was...
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What's going on? It's like we're doing, we're like in repeat mode.
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And I know these guys are a little bit older than us, you know,
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getting up there, but Tucker Carlson, I take both of them very seriously,
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actually, very seriously.
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And I, whenever they speak, they have a lot of weight behind the words that they say.
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So them getting into this, Patrick, David put in like a decision.
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He gave a decision to Tucker to make, and whether he's going to make that decision
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and follow through with what Patrick is saying.
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We're going to get into that at the end of this, but the ball is in Tucker's court.
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I honestly don't think that nothing's going to come of it. I don't think Tucker
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Carlson is going to address it at all.
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I don't think he's going to answer Patrick about even what Patrick is offering
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to him, but we'll get into that later.
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This comes down to the Israel situation, the Jewish situation,
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religion, politics, finance, everything, because this is what's on the table right now.
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And I think that we get so caught up into, you know, what did she just say?
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We're in drama club again, as opposed to real matters at stake, real matters at stake.
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And when I'm talking about real matters, I'm talking about eternal consequential
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matters, not just things of this life, because these are two people that say they're Christians.
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And that stand by their values as being a Christian and they're head to head
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and everybody's front and center watching it take place.
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Patrick just released a response yesterday.
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And what Tucker, Tucker threw him into the fire and Patrick released a statement
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yesterday. But we're going to get into that in just a second.
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Israel is the deal killer. Anyone who doesn't support the military aims of the
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modern Israeli government cannot be part of the MAGA coalition.
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And Lindsey Graham has just told us can't be a Christian.
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It's amazing. But it's not just Lindsey Graham. This is everywhere today,
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in case you haven't seen it.
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Here's Patrick Bett David on his podcast a day or two ago. Watch this.
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I don't know why Catholics, you know, have this issue with Jews. I don't know what it is.
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They have this, this, this, you know, I don't, listen, I get the Jews have issues
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with Christians and they'll make fun and they'll say stuff like,
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oh, your Jesus is going to, you know, they'll say, well, he was a Jew anyways, right?
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But then Catholics have that issue with Jews and they act like,
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you know, they're all innocent and everything. And when you look at Catholics,
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the amount of centralized power they have.
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Centralized. You know what the total Catholic population is worldwide?
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It's like one, two, one, three billion.
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Jews are 15 million. 15 million. But Jews are decentralized.
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Meaning, Catholic, Jews don't have somebody they listen to that says, hey, you better do this.
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Catholics, God forbid you say something about the Pope. They're like,
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hey, man, listen, who is that Pope figure in the Christian community? We don't have one.
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If I ask you right now who's the Pope in the Christian community,
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you don't have somebody to look at. Who is it? Which pastor?
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Yeah, exactly. So which side are these guys on?
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Because I just think I go back to the New Testament because I drive everything there.
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Paul said to the Corinthians that there is actually, it's been reported among
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you that there are divisions among you.
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And he's writing to that specific church in Corinth.
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And that has just been extrapolated after years, thousands of years at this
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point, that the same stuff is happening right now.
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Is Patrick Bet-David, is he representing just the non-denominational Christians?
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We're on this side of the church. We're on this side of the building.
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And Tucker, I don't know where he's at because he's leaning more and more towards
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like giving dropping hints that he is going towards Islam.
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And I don't want to really say that because I don't know what's going on in
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his head, but he's very much sympathizing with Islam. Is it just because he's
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being paid by some Islamic regime out there?
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And then also Patrick, but David, people are accusing him of he's being fronted
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by Israel. He's being his handlers.
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Who's that one guy? Adam on his show, who's a Jew that he's like kind of his
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handler and just like controlling, like maybe behind the strings,
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just being like puppeted there. I bet that does happen.
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And, but I doubt it is actually happening for them, you know,
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but there is probably that element that people put somebody that's of your religion,
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you know, because there are, I'm not going to get away from this.
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There are ties with a lot of people, family, camaraderie between Jewish people, organized jewelry.
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It's not jewelry, jewelry. And I get that. That is a real, I mean,
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there is that element of it.
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I see it because I understand it from the Nick Fuentes perspective and he sees it as a dangerous thing.
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On the other hand, I don't see it as that dangerous. I think that that like
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anybody that your family, your blood with with people that you you care about them.
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It's just it does get very far or far out there because there is so many Jews
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and so high up positions that they can pull strings.
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They can put people in certain places that not all other religions or races can do.
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So I get that element of it. I'm just kind of where I kind of stand a little
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bit more with Jewish people. I support them because I do see it as the,
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if we want to, the promises made in the Old Testament.
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If you bless, God will bless those who bless you. He'll curse those who curse.
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I know that is given to Abraham and to his descendants and it's to his promised seed.
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And we see that that goes through Israel and the fight that's been happening
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3000 years ago until now was between Ishmael and Isaac. Who did the promise go through?
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It went through Isaac. No, we don't have it. It's not in the internet.
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If you look at only Catholics and Muslims have somebody that they look at as their supreme leader.
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Like, you know, you got to go to somebody, but even more it's Catholic.
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There's only two theocracies in the world.
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Catholicism? Islam. I'm sorry, the Islamic Republic of Iran and the Vatican.
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Those are the two major theographies.
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So actually, the Vatican is very much like the Nazi Iranian government,
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the theocratic government, the mullahs. It's all basically the same.
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They've got the complicated dress. They hate the Jews, as Patrick Bet-David just said.
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Catholics have a problem with the Jews, a problem with the Jews.
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It's slander. it's an attack on the world's largest and oldest Christian denomination
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and it's taking place openly.
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And it's all coming from the same source, which is Israel.
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The issue is Israel. Anyone who supports the Netanyahu government,
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not Israel as a concept, not all Jews.
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No, the Netanyahu government, anyone who ratifies every decision,
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no matter how violent or grotesque or genocidal of the Netanyahu government.
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Those are the good people.
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And anyone who doesn't is a Nazi. And by the way, their religion itself is a
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Nazi religion. I get that. I understand what he's saying.
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Tucker makes a very good point when he when he brings that up,
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being very careful what you say
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about other people slander, because our words, they have death in them.
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They have life and they have death in them. And not only just being mean to
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someone, saying something to their face and being mean, but ruining someone's reputation.
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But what Tucker's what he's kind of
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connecting there and making a point of that Patrick
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is slandering all Catholics by saying that they have they hate Jews I don't
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think I did not hear Patrick Ben David say that I don't I did not hear him say
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that I might have misheard that but I did not hear him say that I do see I see
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for a lot of animosity is coming out about.
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People that are Catholics, that say they are Catholics, that are in name Catholics,
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that they are saying the Jews, like they're attacking them.
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They're the ones that are questioning everything about them, what they are doing.
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The people of that religion, of that faith, that particular faith is doing it.
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And I'm not just saying it's just Catholics in general.
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It's just people who have bought into this replacement theology.
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That's what it is, replacement theology. theology because when you,
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and I tried to articulate this a couple of videos back and I just kind of melted
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down midstream and I just like lost all touch with reality and go back.
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You should go check that one out.
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But it is this, this, there's this viewpoint that there's just,
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I think this, this reality that we have made, it's between distinction theology
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and no distinction theology.
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And pretty much what, what has messed up the church so much is B we've removed all distinctions.
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Because we took all those primary verses from the New Testament,
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from the apostle, Paul primarily, but not just from him, from the book of Acts,
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where it talks about there is no distinction, Jew or Gentile, male or female.
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We're all one in Christ. And it's because in that context, it was so radical.
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Nobody understands this point. And a lot of people don't because most of the,
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I had to go through so many different things to get to this understanding that
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I, because most of the church doesn't see that.
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They see themselves, they want to maybe articulate in the same way that we've
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replaced Israel, but it's like.
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That God used the Jews, the Israel up to a point and, and to no further that
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now the new man is just that the, the things that were prescribed in the law are done away with.
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That was just for a certain time. And the covenant he made with Israel,
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that was just for, you know, ancient times, you know, when we were all in our
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infancy or when Jews, but see, even me just saying that right there,
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we all, there's not like, I'm a Gentile.
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We all, I'm not a part of that. We all as in Jews. and I think that it's just
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this identity crisis that a lot of people have had and I would say that even
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Patrick but David right now Tucker Carlson and a lot of big names out there
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because this is very niche what I am talking about of understanding there is still a distinction.
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And it's not to say that we're not all one in
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Christ anyone who embraces Jesus Jew
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or Gentile it doesn't matter we are all one in Christ but your distinctions
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still remain the the things that apostles were fighting against so much in their
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day was this idea that everybody needed to become Jewish if you wanted to be
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a part of this new messianic kingdom.
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The movement of the apostles was a Jewish Judaism, a sect, a sect of Judaism.
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The religion of Jesus is Judaism, but it's the fulfillment of Judaism,
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which is Jesus at like, he's here. The Messiah is here.
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What Christianity is, it's like almost become like this religion of talking
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about Jesus and describing Jesus, not necessarily what Jesus believed.
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Because we've taken it in a way, we've taken verses out of the New Testament
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and we've just ran with them and not understanding them correctly.
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And it's taken a lot of the apostle Paul because what he was combating seriously
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and fighting against blood, tooth and nail, whatever, was that Gentiles do not become Jewish.
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And that because that's what people were so drawn to because that was a way
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to get out of persecution.
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Because the Jews in Roman time, like the first century, that period.
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They had almost an exemption from offering sacrifices to idols.
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They had an exemption from the Roman government that people that were Gentiles did not have.
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So it would almost be easier to just succumb and give into that temptation of
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going under the yoke of the law, becoming Jewish, having that exemption.
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And you're for sure, I'm in the nation of Israel. All the promises are to Israel.
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I'm good. And it's that cheap grace. And Paul fought against that vehemently.
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So we're going to continue a little bit further because what Patrick about David
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in this next clip is he brings up to what Tucker has been going through and
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sympathizing with Islam and Sharia law,
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almost making it a household thing and just normalize in it.
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Whereas it is not something that the West, if we give into Islam,
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if we give into like Muslims taking over, they will, they will not stop.
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We have to almost set up a barrier.
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You cannot come, you can't come into this. You can't, not that like you can't
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be here, but you need to recognize that we are a Christian nation.
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And not give away all of our culture, our values over to them because they're
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not going to stop if we allow that.
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Well, you said something a couple of weeks ago. You said Sharia law has made
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Islamic societies more advanced than the West.
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It's interesting. Sharia law has made Islamic societies more advanced than the
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West. It's a pretty bold statement.
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I mean, it's like you're selling Sharia law more than you're selling America.
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You had a guest on a couple of weeks ago, your guest said, you know,
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that capitalism should not be anywhere near Christianity.
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Christianity is socialism at its core. You almost agreed with them.
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You're like, yes, and you almost agreed with them.
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So socialism, Christianity at its core, you almost sound like you're supporting
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maybe a Mamdani in New York or maybe an Ilhan Omar.
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Maybe those two will be in your podcast in the next few months. I don't know.
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I'm trying to see what you're solving for. See, this is kind of where I'm at
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with my life that most people don't know about, but let me kind of share it with you.
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For seven and a half years, I worked with Mormons. Guess what?
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I read everything I could on Mormons and I realized it's not a denomination for me.
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I'm not interested. I watch all the videos. you're not supposed to watch.
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Ask me how many bad experiences I had with Mormons. Zero. They're phenomenal people.
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And Patrick's making a good point that we are, a lot of these people that,
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and we use blanket statements because it's, you got to speak in generalities in some cases.
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We understand, I think if we can maybe distinguish between, if we say white
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people are racist, or some people say, or white people are racist,
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or black people are racist.
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We, I mean, no, not everybody of
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that race is that, but maybe there is a general, a general nature of it.
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Maybe there is something to that. When people see that, I think we all are a little bit racist.
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Everybody has that in them because we, we, we feel more most comfortable being
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around people that have the same values as us, look like us.
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What Tucker Carlson is doing, like, in normalizing and saying Sharia law is
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a good thing. It's been more successful than the West.
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And he's brought on also the idea of socialism. Like, he acknowledged,
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like, oh, socialism is a Christian virtue.
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I think it was Nathan Affelt who brought it up and said that in the podcast
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that they had a couple, maybe a week or two ago.
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And Tucker just acknowledged, yeah, yeah, that's right. I think that that's
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missing the mark because saying that Christianity is most like portrayed as
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socialism, because that's not really it at all.
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In the New Testament, when the apostles come and everybody's selling all they
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have and given to the apostles and they're all living life together in like,
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it looks like almost a communist state.
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That doesn't really represent what Christianity is.
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Socialism is actually taking from people. And the apostles were never doing that.
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People were selling what they have, giving to the poor, taking Jesus at his
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word because they lived with him.
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And Jesus said, sell all you have, give to the poor and you will have riches in heaven.
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They took him at his word in that instance, and they live life together.
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That was for a particular state and time. And I guess if anybody feels that
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urge that you need to sell what you have so that if that's something holding
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you back, but we don't have the apostles here now.
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And it's like, who are we going to lay our money at the feet of?
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It's really missing the point because socialism in itself is people controlling
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money, somebody being at the top and stealing from people and giving to others
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so that everything is equal. And it always melts down at a time.
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I've went back and forth so many times on this because I think there's good
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maybe in some aspects of socialism.
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Like, I do think that some people have more than they should and some people
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have less than they should and there should be a balance. But the biblical idea
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of finance is more in line with a capitalist perspective.
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Nowhere in the Bible does it show that everybody had everything the exact same.
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When God gives out laws and he sets up the nation of Israel,
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he doesn't put a socialist state in place.
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But there are people that are of Israel that are landowners,
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and there's people that sell themselves as indentured servants,
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and they have to work off their debt. and they just live a slave wage amongst their people.
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You know, this whole life is not the end-all be-all. We're not just,
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we're not gonna be in the state that we are now.
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That's why when Paul the apostle was here, he said, whatever state you were
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called, if you are a slave when you were called to Christ, remain a slave.
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If you were any, like he uses this idea to like, we don't need to change our
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station in life just because we're in Messiah.
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We don't need to. But he does give that, like, if you can buy your freedom, do that.
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But there are certain things in place that we have to keep in mind that some things don't change.
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And Paul's rule for all of his churches that he planted, which was a decision
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made by the apostles, was that if you are born a Jew or if you are Jewish,
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when you come to the Messiah, you remain Jewish.
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And if you're a Gentile, when you come to the Messiah, you remain Gentile.
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There's no crossing the streams. You stay one or the other.
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And I think that what I see with Patrick Obed David and with Tucker Carlson
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and what they're going into.
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This is just the same thing of the chirping at the top of everybody at each
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other's necks missing the point.
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Because really this whole internet fad that's happening right now,
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and with Christians, everybody's making videos, everybody has a podcast,
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everybody's talking at something at everybody else.
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You got to say the most crazy outlandish thing possible so that you differentiate yourself.
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And it's like, it comes back down to that slanderous position.
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It's very easy to slander someone and being careful about that.
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Don't just randomly slander your brother in Christ.
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And I think there is that temptation, not that you want to do that,
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but when you make just blanket general statements about someone that is a Christian,
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I think it's the people that you're talking about, your brothers and sisters
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in Christ, it is kind of like, you think that they understand,
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really, we're just doing this kind of this camera thing.
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We're doing this video thing. We're making, trying to say something that's crazy,
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but it's getting at a greater truth and maybe we can work it out amongst ourselves.
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But a lot of people out there that just see these things, they think that this is the end of the world.
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Like how can Christians be the true religion if all they do is fight and bicker
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and bitch at each other all day long and they don't agree on anything?
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How can they be representing Christ when they can't even come together?
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And I think that that is what started it in the early church,
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you know, when the apostles were here and we saw that divisions were happening
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immediately And it's, they've happened throughout the centuries and gotten bigger and more wide apart.
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We're like, it's like, we got a whole religion over here. That's Catholic.
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We're Roman Catholic. We, we, we got the, the vicar of Christ over here.
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We were the true religion. We're the ones that have the authority.
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And then the Orthodox are over here. They're like, no, we are.
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We have the authority and the succession came through us. And then Protestants are just like,
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we rode with the Catholics much longer, but we understand that there was a lot
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of just dysfunction and things that were very messed up going on within the
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church that we had to separate.
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And I align, and it's so weird because these are just make-believe terms.
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And I can't, like, it's hard for me even to step into this as a Christian because
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these These are make believe terms.
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These are not the things that the apostles or Jesus were doing.
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They weren't talking about, are you going to be wrong? I hope you become Roman
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Catholic, or I hope you become fundamental Baptist, or I hope you become Orthodox.
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These weren't, these are things that just have developed and we've ran with and we've made up.
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And it's because we're so screwed up in the head because, and it started off
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with the Jew gentile thing.
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And that's what we don't understand that most of the church doesn't understand
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that this is the whole crux in the issue.
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And now the Jews are back on the stage and they formulated their country.
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They brought it back, resurrected it, and it's Israel.
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And that's just made it even more complicated what's happening.
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Because now it's like, there's probably people in Israel that are not doing right things.
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That government, it's just, but we make it seem like that's Israel's evil because
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of people, the decisions made by their government might be not what we agree
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with. And that means they're evil.
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They are what, like how Israel became a nation and how, how they're there and
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what, what we want to think about them.
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There's so much complexity going on there, but I think the whole thing,
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I just focusing on the Gentile part of the church, the Gentile aspect of the bride of Christ.
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And this is something that was promised. Like.
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Millennia before all this came to fruition because we, we almost,
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we do see almost like a two bride situation happening.
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I don't think that there are two brides of God, like in like there's the Gentile
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bride and the Jewish bride. I don't think that, but it almost, it seems like that.
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It appears like that because there's that part of the church that is Jewish.
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And a lot of them don't embrace Jesus as the Messiah.
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And then there's the Gentile part of the church that is just doing things in
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the way that we think that makes sense.
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When we're not coming to the New Testament and interpreting it in the original
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sense that it was delivered, which was from a Jewish rabbi's perspective.
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Jesus was a Jewish rabbi and he had students that were his apostles.
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And that was the mindset and the frame that they viewed everything.
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So if we want to understand it, we want to get closer to the truth.
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It's like we almost need to step back, pull back the veil and look at it from
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how would the apostles been understanding this and not just running with something
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random where we think that Paul was saying,
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everybody become Gentile or everybody become Jew or we're all one.
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The whole oneness thing that we all enter the kingdom, we enter Messiah,
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we are in Christ and we're all eligible the same way, Jew or Gentile.
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It's not that Jews have an upper hand or Gentiles have an upper hand.
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We're all on the same level playing field and we're all saved the same way.
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And it's whether you are in Christ or not, whether you have embraced and trusted
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the promises of God or not, because Jesus, when he was here,
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he said it point blank to the Jews.
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When I say to the Jews, he's Jewish. So it's like, but he's to the people that
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his opponents, he said, if God were your father, you would love me.
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So it's like, if God is who, if God's the father of anyone that's Jewish right
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now, anyone that's of Israel, if he's really their father and they are of his
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people, they will see Jesus for who he is.
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It might, might be a struggle, but they will see him for who he is.
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We're going to continue a little bit further. And this final thing,
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what Patrick brought up, he made Tucker Carlson an offer, whether he's going
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to expose and reveal their finances,
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whether Patrick David has been put up and funded by people that are Israel.
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And then also Tucker Carlson, whether his finances have been coming through
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Qatar or these Islamic nations.
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And so you and I both get accused of something. I want you to process this and
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I want you to know I'm open to it.
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You get accused of, you know, this guy, Tucker's taking money.
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Oh, Pat's a Zionist. He's taking money from Israel. Never been to Israel.
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APAC messaged me and told me, you want to come to Israel? I said,
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I have no interest in going to Israel for you to pay for me.
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I'm going to go one day with my pastor.
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We've never taken money from anybody. And I'm so confident with myself and what
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I've done because there's only one thing I fear in my life and that's God.
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I don't fear anything more than
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I fear God. And trust me, I fear God a lot because this thing's like this.
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If you ever wanted to have fun and let's just say, you know,
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put it out there on the line. and again, I'll put the onus on you if you're open to this or not.
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Let's go hire three accounting firms. You pick one, I pick one,
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and let's get a third party that we both agree on.
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Maybe like a KPMG, PWC, and BKD, hypothetically. Some of the biggest firms you
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probably recognize, you have money, you've done well for yourself.
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Let's have them do audited financials on me, my wife, and you and your wife,
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and report back to see if I've ever gotten paid from Israel and report back
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to see if you've ever gotten paid from Qatar or Pakistan or any of these guys.
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All the businesses, all the LLCs, all the accounts, you know how this kind of
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works. They can kind of figure that out. And let's be honest with the audience.
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Let's be honest with the audience. if you're open to it, I'm available.
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We'll have to spend a half a million dollars, something like that,
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because it's going to take a few weeks for them to do it. I am fully open to
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that idea if you are. And by the way, I know this may make you feel uncomfortable.
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You don't have to accept this offer, but I'm telling you I'm comfortable if you want to do it.
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You don't have to do it because it's a little bit private. So I'm sure you're
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going to come out and say, how dare he want to look at my wife's bank accounts
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and all this other stuff?
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Because some people may say, well, they can pay your wife and not,
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but you will not get that as well. And that's why I want to be a little bit
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transparent with you. I've tried many times to build a relationship with you. It's been challenging.
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Patrick, by David, he does this quite a bit. He was the one that when Tucker
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Carlson left Fox that he offered him a hundred million dollar contract to come and work for him.
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Which, I mean, if you've got $100 million to throw around, that's great.
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But Tucker Carlson, he didn't obviously go and he didn't take that offer.
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He wanted to kind of be his own man, be free, and not be under the thumb of
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anybody. And I know Patrick, David, nobody.
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But it is a certain sense. When you're working for other people,
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you are under their thumb.
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You are controlled by them. They can tell you, do this or not, you know?
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I guess depending on how the language of the contract. So that was,
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I almost think that was a stunt. And I think that this is a stunt as well by
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Patrick because he knows Tucker Carlson's not going to take this deal.
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He's not going to take this offer and say, okay, let's, I'm going to expose all my finances.
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Tucker's really kind of silent, you know, stealthy about his finances.
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We don't know where a lot of his money comes from.
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We know he made quite a bit of money while he was at Fox.
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He's, it sounds like he married Rich. So he's probably got a lot to throw around
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there. And I think that Petrobet Davin putting this out there,
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giving this decision for him to make...
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Tucker's probably not going to even answer him. He's not even going to acknowledge it.
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I doubt he will even acknowledge it. I doubt he will even talk about it because
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this would be like really vulnerable.
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Like I'm going to just show this. And I'm not going to say that Tucker's like
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hiding something, but I just don't, I don't, I think it's the same thing that Patrick B.
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David, like just knew he knew that Tucker wouldn't take the $100 million offer.
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Because he would have probably written the contract a lot of legalese that didn't
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make it. It would have benefited him.
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Patrick is a very strong, wealthy businessman, so he knows what he's doing,
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but this is more just a stunt.
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It's just a power play, a power move to keep this conversation going,
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to put the ball in Tucker's court. On my part, I've responded to what you've said.
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This comes down to, if I want to step back, which I do want to step back.
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I want to step back. Let me rephrase that. I want to step back and think,
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because they're talking about money, where your finances coming from.
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You say Catholics hate Jews. You're misrepresenting me.
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This is the same thing that's been just carried out throughout centuries of
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time of just Christians at each other's necks because the fundamental issue
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is that we're not representing Jesus correctly in a lot of ways.
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Because if we're representing Jesus and putting him in his real garb,
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his Jewish garb, his Jewish nature, who he is, we're going to attract people
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that are of the Jewish religion.
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And that's the, like, I kind of, I'm just waiting for that to more carry out, more play out.
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And, but it just gets so complex because now people just see Israel as an evil thing.
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I thought it was fun at first that like, everybody's talking about Israel. That's awesome.
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I didn't think anybody talked about Israel, but everybody does.
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And everybody has a very strong opinion about them.
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A lot of people don't like them. And they just say that they're doing genocide
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over there where it's like,
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If they're really doing that, first of all, I don't necessarily believe it.
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I think it's just that nation, the people at the top, they're making decisions
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to take power over other lands.
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They're probably a more peaceful country than a lot of countries out there that
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they send in flyers of, we're going to bomb this area, get out of there.
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But if people are holding their own people hostage and making them just be pawns
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to make videos to say, oh, we got killed over here.
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Look at how evil they're, what they're doing. I know there's a lot more to it,
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but like this, this out fighting that's, that has came into the infighting of the Christian church.
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And then we're seeing between Patrick, but David and Tucker Carlson,
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that's just like almost exactly what, what the devil would want us to be doing
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to fight against each other, which we've been doing for centuries because we
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can't get the main things,
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the plain things and the plain things, the main things we're focusing on so
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much things that don't really matter at all.
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And we've missed the whole point because I, I will drive this home over and
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over. It's this distinction list theology. That's what it comes down to.
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And a lot of people aren't going to say this. You're not going to go to church
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tomorrow and hear about this because the church, why do you think it feels so weird?
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Why, why the church is so messed up? And why do you, why does it not feel like
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the, the, the, the church of the apostles?
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It's because the churches have become just businesses for the most part.
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I still support local churches. I think that doing the best they can,
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but it's really a non-profit business. That's what it is.
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Just like any non-profit out there. And the whole non-profit situation is weird
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in itself, but it was something the government gave to these churches so that
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they could have control over them and they could take it away in an instant.
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Rather, the church of the New Testament was underground.
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It wasn't something that the government.
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Was easily on board with. And I, maybe that is because like,
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as the Christian nation that we are, we just made this thing.
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And so we made it the best we can.
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And we tried to blend Christianity and the government together and made our
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culture be Christian values.
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And maybe that aspect of it was good, but a lot of other things have become,
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have just, it's just all just decaying and messed up.
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I've noticed that for the longest time, since I've become a,
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been a Christian, it's just, you go to church.
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It doesn't feel right. We just, we go there, we do a little bit of life together.
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Then we go off and do our own thing. It's just this American version of individualism.
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And it's not about like actual life together.
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We can, it's like, we can only stand each other for just a little bit.
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It's because we're not, we'll be controlled by the people at the top of our government.
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It's just, they're controlling us so that we're not as on fire for them.
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It's like, we almost do need some like actual persecution in the American church
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so that we can see who's on, who's on team Jesus and who's not,
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who's really for the cross and spreading the gospel and who's not.
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But it's like, it's so vanilla, so lukewarm that we live in that it's like,
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it's hard to actually know what's what we're just being boiled alive because
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the temperature has been raised
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so slowly that we don't know if this is really of God or if it's not.
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And we're at each other's necks. Who's running this show?
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It's Satan. He's running. He's the one controlling so much. And he's used our
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government to control us.
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And the people that are influencers, big name influencers like Patrick David
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and Tucker Carlson, what they're doing, they're doing exactly what you expect they would be doing.
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Because we're not back down to our roots.
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We're not back down to what do we actually believe?
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Do we need to really be fighting over? You have that catechism over there.
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I have this one. I believe this over here. You believe that?
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Let's actually hammer these things out. This is something I've said over and
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over that pisses me off so much about the church.
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It's that we are so freaking divided. And I...
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Pardon my language. Pardon my language. It is like that we are so divided.
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I've hated it. It's sickened me for the longest time.
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And I'm so disgusted with it.
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Like, because it's just, we are being controlled. Like, who do you know?
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Who knows who's running the show when we're so divided?
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It's like, if you drop these lines of communication and you just like infect
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these lines of communication, we don't know really what we're being fed every day.
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We don't know. We don't know what's actually what.
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It's just, I just would love if we actually came together.
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I'd love it if Tucker and Patrick David actually talked this through,
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but, and I, I'm not even like on either one of them side.
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It's like, I understand Patrick's viewpoint on certain things.
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I understand Tucker's on some things.
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Tucker Carlson, he's like, just, it's like, are you going to become Muslim?
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Is that the direction you're going?
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Is that why you're like, is that why you're like, and
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I don't want to be slandering tucker carlson i don't want to slander
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anyone but it's like you almost can see the writing
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on the wall for at points you know like but it is so artificial everything's
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just so artificial we don't know what's what because now it's just this technology
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driven age that we don't know what people really believe compared to what they
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just put on a screen and put on what's what's the audience like what's my analytics showing.
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What's going to get the most hype? It's like, nobody can be real anymore because
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we're all, we're just so fed into this.
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Well, this person said that when they were doing that podcast,
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but what do they really believe?
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It's like, there's, there's no, they're there anymore.
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There's no actually commonality or understanding of what have you,
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what are, what are we in the church even doing anymore?
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Like, what are we doing? What are we trying to find out? What are we like?
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I get so blackpilled at sometimes because it's like, everybody is just almost
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a fake version of themselves.
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And nobody can be real. Even in real life, you can't be real with anyone.
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You can't because you're being judged every moment. It's like,
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and just these, that little microscopic points in time where we are as the body
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of Christ coming together for maybe an hour or so just to be together.
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Everybody's ready when that hour's done to get out of there,
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get the hell out of there.
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And they don't want, it's tough because it's like, we don't have life together.
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Everybody is so separated and individualistic.
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Nobody is like sharing life together and doing community together.
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It's just, it's something we, everybody says, but nobody does.
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And nobody really is interested in doing. And we're seeing the exact same thing.
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This is just talking about Patrick. And I love that. I love these guys,
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what they're doing and Patrick calling him out and Tucker calling him out.
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And, but it's like, what's it going to solve? What are we actually going to get out of this?
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It's just that you're going to, you're going to build your platform a little
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more. I'm going to build mine a little more. I'm doing my thing over here.
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You're doing your thing over there.
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We're it's like the thing, like, and what's driving all this is money. It's so it's like.
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That's why like America has become like our God is money and everybody is susceptible to this.
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It's so hard to open your hand. It's so hard to actually do what the early church
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did is layer like our, our, all our money at the feet of the apostles.
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Like who's the apostle now? Like, no, it's not there anymore.
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It's like, there's, there's no actual ecumenical really real mute movement of
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everybody coming together.
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Everybody's doing their own thing. And it's, it, I, I've hated it from the beginning.
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I've hated it. like even more and more because it's, I guess it's just a,
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some people like it. It's a flavor.
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You like that music over there. I like this music over here.
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And, but it was like, who's on whose side? Who's on what side?
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Who's on first? I don't know. You know, it's like, nothing makes sense.
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Everything is just so disappointing at times. And, but I'm just like,
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I'm just keeping it real. I'm just keeping what I, what I feel about the whole situation.
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I know we're all going to go to church tomorrow on Sunday or people at church
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right now on Saturday night. Right.
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But it's the same thing that the only real division, the thing that the apostles
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were concerned about was the Jew and Gentile thing. That's what they were really up in arms about.
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They needed to hammer that out and they needed to drive home the point that
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we are all one in Messiah.
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There's no one better than the other, but there are still distinctions.
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That's the point that we missed out on. We don't understand that there are still
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distinctions between Jews and Gentiles.
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The whole book of the law, the covenant, the days that they were given,
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the Sabbath, the circumcision, everything, all those laws were the same thing
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that they apply today to Jews. None of that has been off the table.
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All of that is still on the table for Jews, but it's for Gentiles.
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We were never meant to be under that. And the apostles made the decision that
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the yoke of the law didn't need to go on us.
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And I think that is the main crux of the matter. That's the issue that everything
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does not look like real Christianity when we go to church on Sundays,
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or even that we're doing church on Sundays.
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It's not, and it's a bad thing to be doing it on Sundays, but that's not the Sabbath.
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The Sabbath is Saturday from sundown on Friday night to sundown on Saturday.
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Jews are obligated to observe that.
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Gentiles, we can, but we don't want to blur that distinction.
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What do you all think about the whole Tucker, Patrick, David? David.
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I just, I like that they're talking this out, but I don't think it's just another
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thing of somebody has to be with somebody else, but it's, it's,
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it's strikes a chord with me
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because they're both saying that they're Christian and I, I believe them.
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I, anyone says something, I think that's a, a hallmark of Christians that you
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take people at their word. You believe all things, you hope all things.
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You know, all right, well, let me know what you think, drop a comment.
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I know I've said a lot, but let me know what you think about Tucker Carlson,
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about Patrick, David, the, and then all the whole thing, the Jewish and Gentile,
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what I've kind of brought up, what I'm trying to get better at explaining what
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I'm, what I'm, what's going on in my head.
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Cause I know so, so many videos I make, I make a video, but what's in my head
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and what's in my mind doesn't come out the way that I want it to.
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And, and that's like, I think that's just getting better as,
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as a communicator that people Because it doesn't always come out the exact way.
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That's what I really think when I'm sharpening it, polishing it, I guess.
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Getting better at that. We'll leave it at that. Have a good day,
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everyone. Have a good, rest your Saturday. Have a good Sunday tomorrow. See y'all.