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3 Guys Before The Game - Utah Game Recap (Episode 662) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Speaker 1: And away we go. Welcome in everyone. It's three guys
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  Speaker 1: before the game. This is episode number six hundred and
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  Speaker 1: sixty two. This is our recap game recap of West
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  Speaker 1: Virginia against the utah Utes. All present and assembled. Long
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  Speaker 1: beyond numbers. All right, here we go. Final score, Mylon
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  Speaker 1: Pushcar Stadium, forty eight to fourteen Utah. The Utes come
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  Speaker 1: into Morgantown and play one of the most efficient offensive
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  Speaker 1: games that perhaps that stadium has ever seen. Consider this.
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  Speaker 1: They had the football eight times, they scored on seven.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good number for them, seven out of eight
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  Speaker 1: and scores.
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  Speaker 3: Probably would have scored the eighth time if they hadn't
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  Speaker 3: turn the ball over right, Yeah, could have been a
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  Speaker 3: possibility there.
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia. On the other side, they had ten drives
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  Speaker 1: and scored twice, so two out of ten and those
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  Speaker 1: touchdowns coming in the second half. All right, let's open
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  Speaker 1: it up. What do we got, fellas takeaways?
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  Speaker 3: Obvious observations Tony number one fans expected and I think,
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  Speaker 3: like the throwback uniforms, I'm not sure they expected a
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  Speaker 3: performance to take the program back sixty years. Like the uniforms,
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  Speaker 3: you were not competitive in this game. You lost. There's
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  Speaker 3: a lot to break down. Bottom line observation. You were
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  Speaker 3: not competitive basically at any point in this game. I
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  Speaker 3: know we'll talk about the second half, but you have
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  Speaker 3: to adjust for what U saw was doing during that time,
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  Speaker 3: so you're not competitive. Props to the fans who sat
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  Speaker 3: through that, sat through bad weather, especially those who stayed
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  Speaker 3: till the end. That was a hard game to watch, Tony.
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  Speaker 3: I was in the comfortable confines of my home, had
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  Speaker 3: the TV audio turned out, listened to you. It was
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  Speaker 3: hard to listen to and hard to watch. That was
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  Speaker 3: a painful experience. I'm sure it was painful for you
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  Speaker 3: and the broadcast crew. Third coach Whittingham said after the
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  Speaker 3: Texas Tech loss that they he was surprised they got
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  Speaker 3: dominated at the line of scrimmage, and of course they
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  Speaker 3: turned the ball over a bunch, Brad. Did Utah improve
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  Speaker 3: on that this week? They were very, very good and impressive. Yeah, Tony,
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  Speaker 3: you said the game. You said in the broadcast the
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  Speaker 3: game was over the half. I think the game was
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  Speaker 3: essentially over after the first two possessions of Utah in
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  Speaker 3: West Virginia. Utah went out did what they wanted to do,
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  Speaker 3: long drives fourteen to nothing. You know that West Virginia
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  Speaker 3: is very limited offensively. I thought the game was essentially
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  Speaker 3: over at that point. You would come to believe that
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  Speaker 3: the defense would give you was shot in the game
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  Speaker 3: in games. This was one of the worst defensive performances
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  Speaker 3: of the season. I know Brad will have stats on misstackles.
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  Speaker 3: It seemed like there were a ton You have stats
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  Speaker 3: on miss tackles. I do, okay, he'll get to that.
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  Speaker 3: Cam Vaughan, I know he only had three catches. If
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  Speaker 3: you're looking for a bright spot, you have a guy
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  Speaker 3: who can go up and get the ball. We haven't
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  Speaker 3: had that in a while. He shows again he's a
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  Speaker 3: guy that can go get the ball and make a play.
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  Speaker 3: I know that's just a little ray of sunshine and
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  Speaker 3: an overcast day, but you just like the way that
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  Speaker 3: Cam Vaughn plays. Now, you have a bad situation, a
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  Speaker 3: short week on the road, long road trip. They probably
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  Speaker 3: won't leave on Wednesday to get there for Friday. But
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  Speaker 3: a long road trip against a good opponent in a
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  Speaker 3: tough environment. It is an optimal situation for YU, a
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  Speaker 3: terrible situation for West Virginia. Khalil Wilkins, I know we'll
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  Speaker 3: talk about him. He shows you something, although Utah probably
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  Speaker 3: backed off by then. Here's my question to Brad before
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  Speaker 3: we get to his his stats, Brad, do you start
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  Speaker 3: him next week?
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  Speaker 4: It's a great question.
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  Speaker 2: That's a really tough environment to throw such a young,
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  Speaker 2: inexperienced guy in there. He did show you a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: and again some of that's opponent adjusted. I get it
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  Speaker 2: because the defense changes, they put some backups in. But
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  Speaker 2: I thought he showed you some stuff. That's a tough environment.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that might have to be Henderson there again,
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  Speaker 2: because of he's at least played some more games. You
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  Speaker 2: mentioned going into BYU, there is no treat so that's
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  Speaker 2: a tough spot to put.
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  Speaker 4: A young guy in.
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  Speaker 3: You might you might ruin a guy to put him
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  Speaker 3: in in that invite.
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  Speaker 2: I do think, as you saw yesterday, you're going to
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  Speaker 2: see multiple guys play, So I mean somebody's going to start,
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  Speaker 2: probably Henderson, I would think, and then you mix the
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  Speaker 2: other guys in just see who can give you a spark.
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  Speaker 3: Tony Jed said at the half, the players were reminded
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  Speaker 3: in the locker room that their performance would be on film,
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  Speaker 3: which is sort of the typical football threat. But also
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  Speaker 3: you're down to that you're down to that by challenging
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  Speaker 3: these players to say, who wants to be here, who
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  Speaker 3: wants playing Tom, who wants to get paid? That's where
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  Speaker 3: you are now. You're really down to. Unless something changes dramatically,
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  Speaker 3: you're really down to just figuring out in that lineup
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  Speaker 3: of people who wants to be here, who wants to play,
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  Speaker 3: who shows you something, who expects to be around next year,
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  Speaker 3: or who's positioning themselves to be someplace else next year.
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  Speaker 3: That's where you are right now. Not a good situation.
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  Speaker 1: It's a new world to slippery slope. With that being said,
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  Speaker 1: right I think one of the issues obviously is when
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  Speaker 1: you put all of these new faces together, many of
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  Speaker 1: them on a short term, one year situation here, you've
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  Speaker 1: got no idea which way this thing is going to
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  Speaker 1: go at this point. I mean, perhaps if they still
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  Speaker 1: have professional aspirations, they continue to give it their very
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  Speaker 1: very best. Probably somewhere in the middle, some guys will
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  Speaker 1: continue to go trying to make their name because the
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  Speaker 1: eye in the sky never lies. And then for others
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  Speaker 1: they may shoulder shrug and say, hey, this thing is
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  Speaker 1: gonna work.
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  Speaker 3: Out Tony Brand. Now we're talking about before in our
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  Speaker 3: meeting before the broadcast. Is that like you guys at
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  Speaker 3: a meeting, Well, we were just chit chatting and actually,
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  Speaker 3: but a guy like Cam Vaughn, I mean, boy, you'd
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  Speaker 3: love to have Cam Vaughan back.
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  Speaker 1: Next year's coming back.
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  Speaker 4: He's here, Okay, cam Va on your phone is probably ringing.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So, I mean that's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's what you're looking at now, is your guys
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  Speaker 2: that are showing to be bright spots. Now you've got
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  Speaker 2: to work on retaining them with with dollars and playing
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  Speaker 2: and the whole other thing. Cam Vaughan's a dude, guys.
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  Speaker 2: I mean he's now done it against Pitton, against Utah
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  Speaker 2: too legitimate defenses there. He just goes up and makes plays.
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  Speaker 2: You're just having trouble getting in the ball to him
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  Speaker 2: and as enough as you need to.
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  Speaker 4: But he's a dude.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, Hoppy, that's that's your that's your next phase.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought this guy's was what this game played
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  Speaker 2: out exactly. It illustrated exactly where these two programs are
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  Speaker 2: in their timeline of evolution.
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  Speaker 4: Utah is pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And we.
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  Speaker 2: Mentioned coming into this your hope that the environment and
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  Speaker 2: the long trip and maybe damp here being dinged would
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  Speaker 2: would give you a chance to hang around. None of
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  Speaker 2: that was even remotely close. Hoppy to your point. If
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  Speaker 2: you look at win probability yesterday, by the thirty second
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  Speaker 2: play of this game combined by the two teams thirty
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  Speaker 2: second play, West Virginia was as high as it was
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  Speaker 2: going to be at thirty percent win probability and it
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  Speaker 2: never touched that point. Again, I mean, this was over early.
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  Speaker 2: But that's a Utah team that's really good. A lot
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  Speaker 2: of people would pick them to win this league. You've
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  Speaker 2: got a West Virginia team that, as we know, is rebuilding,
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  Speaker 2: and so I thought that played out on the field
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  Speaker 2: that was West Virginia was this non competitive yesterday with Utah,
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  Speaker 2: And defensively I think was more disappointing. You know, the
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  Speaker 2: challenges presented by the offense at defense was just bad, guys.
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  Speaker 2: It just was bad. That surprised me. I thought this
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  Speaker 2: was a pretty good defense that would be able to
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  Speaker 2: hang in there for a while against Utah, and they
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  Speaker 2: just didn't it all. We'll get to some of the numbers,
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  Speaker 2: but you don't really need the numbers on this one.
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  Speaker 2: That was just a really rough performance and I think
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  Speaker 2: now if you're West Virginia fan, you're trying to watch this.
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  Speaker 2: There's two parts to this. There's a lot of season left,
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  Speaker 2: and that gets frustrating when you're getting drilled like that.
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  Speaker 2: So you're still trying to win games for those guys,
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  Speaker 2: and you're still trying to watch as a fan hoping
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  Speaker 2: there's wins, and then you're also just trying to find
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  Speaker 2: those spots. Are those guys that you can say, all right,
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  Speaker 2: they showed a little something and I think there were
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  Speaker 2: a few of those. There were, there were some some
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  Speaker 2: minor bright spots to push forward, but overall that that
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  Speaker 2: was just a tough watch.
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  Speaker 4: Guys know that was a tough watch.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Particularly disheartening was as you said, defensively, I mean
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  Speaker 1: Utah from its opening drive that was dissection. Yeah, that
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  Speaker 1: was absolute dissection, wide open receivers. And then we'll get
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  Speaker 1: into the the miss tackles. They just were completely off.
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  Speaker 1: No pass rush.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we know that line is very good, but
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  Speaker 2: Westring's pass rush has been good and it just was
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  Speaker 2: non existent and and Westervigi did what it wanted to
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  Speaker 2: do there. It forced dam Pierre into throwing the football man.
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  Speaker 3: He just lit you up, he would he had. He
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  Speaker 3: had a really good game. And Steve Dunlapp always talks
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  Speaker 3: about this former defensive coordinator, is that when a quarterback
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  Speaker 3: hits an open receiver. And Dunlap, who coached defensive back,
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  Speaker 3: said okay, but.
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  Speaker 1: He was back.
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  Speaker 3: He had a ton of time. And Dan Pierre many
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  Speaker 3: times Tony had a ton of time. So yeah, guys
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  Speaker 3: were open and you can't guard guys for six seven seconds.
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  Speaker 2: We say this and you talk about it, and defensive
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  Speaker 2: coordinators preach at basketball coaches preach it. You've got to
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  Speaker 2: make the offense uncomfortable. In Utah's offense collectively, Dan Pierre
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  Speaker 2: in particular, and just never uncomfortable, just did whatever they wanted.
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  Speaker 1: Yesterday, you were concerned because their offensive line had not
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  Speaker 1: played well against Texas Tech. This is I said back
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  Speaker 1: on Thursday show that they were hearing it and hearing
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  Speaker 1: it and hearing it. So what were they gonna do? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to come on and go, go and show.
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  Speaker 1: But you're right, I mean their line and the pass
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  Speaker 1: pro that he had it was like at times it
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  Speaker 1: was like seven on seven. Yes, he stood there, set
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  Speaker 1: his feet and let her roll perfect. So his number
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  Speaker 1: is crazy, twenty five to thirty for two ninety five
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  Speaker 1: touchdown passes. I should say four touchdown passes. He was
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  Speaker 1: twenty one collectively with twenty five third he was twenty
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  Speaker 1: one to twenty six two thirty seven, four touchdowns, a
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  Speaker 1: pick eighty one percent completion rating, quarterback rating of two hundred.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah he had to day.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, a day, case closed.
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  Speaker 2: I mean again, I'll give you some numbers here in
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  Speaker 2: just a second. You don't need them. You don't need
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  Speaker 2: the numbership in this game. It was just Yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: was just it was rough all the way around.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just hoping and praying that don't know, but the
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  Speaker 1: snuck in.
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  Speaker 4: I went to that game as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we snuck in there, and we looked in there,
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  Speaker 1: and then they were doing that construction over there. We
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  Speaker 1: looked up there.
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  Speaker 2: We went like, beautiful setting, beautiful setting, tough environment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can tell it was empty during basketball season.
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  Speaker 1: We looked up there and went, Yep, this won't be good.
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  Speaker 1: This won't be this one is not gonna be easy
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  Speaker 1: to come in here.
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  Speaker 2: They're tough to beat when you roll in with good
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  Speaker 2: experienced teams, so this will be is a real challenge.
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  Speaker 2: We said that, guys, this is that there's no there's
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  Speaker 2: no easy games on this schedule except for Robert Morris,
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  Speaker 2: all do respect. This was a particularly tough stretch on
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  Speaker 2: the road at Kansas after a big pit win, then
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  Speaker 2: Utah rolling in. You tie ended up coming in after
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  Speaker 2: a loss or a particularly focused team. Then you have
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  Speaker 2: to go on the road to b Yu in a
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  Speaker 2: short week. This doesn't get a whole lot easier from here.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, I was looking at a number today on
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  Speaker 2: strength of schedule remaining as difficult as this stretches, and
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  Speaker 2: as it's been pro football focus has West Virginia's the
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  Speaker 2: nineteenth most difficult schedule remaining. So not a lot of
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  Speaker 2: light at the end of the tunnel there in terms
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  Speaker 2: of schedule strength.
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  Speaker 1: Well that works out.
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  Speaker 4: Well.
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  Speaker 1: How about the how about Cincinnati? Yeah, they went into Kansas,
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  Speaker 1: had four touchdowns called back and won the game and
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  Speaker 1: won the game.
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  Speaker 3: That's crazy. And Kansas had four touchdown passes?
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  Speaker 1: Oh did they Yeah? Jalen Daniel, Yeah he was hid.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah he was hi at fourteen.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah he was hot again. Yeah, all right.
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  Speaker 3: I stayed well, not relevant to us, but I stayed
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  Speaker 3: up and watched the end of that Oregon Penn State game.
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  Speaker 1: Out was something good ball, entertaining and exciting. What are
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  Speaker 1: you saying as far as the big it is? It's
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  Speaker 1: oh yeah, look you watch it. It's different level. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it is different level. You watch it. Different dudes players,
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  Speaker 1: different dudes right now, different dudes. Big twelve wise, I
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  Speaker 1: think the team we saw yesterday here Utah Texas Tech
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  Speaker 1: in Iowa State. It's going to be Texas Tech and
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  Speaker 1: then it'll be either Utah or Iowa State. Those will
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  Speaker 1: be your two teams in the champions.
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  Speaker 4: Don't know that.
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  Speaker 2: Arizona State, they're starting to play a little bit now.
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  Speaker 4: TCU.
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  Speaker 2: I thought I thought that was a that was an
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  Speaker 2: important game for TCU. They end up getting beat they
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  Speaker 2: had the lead in that game, got beat from behind
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  Speaker 2: because their schedule seems to be favorable down the stretch there,
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  Speaker 2: but lost hurt them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's do a little bit of this.
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  Speaker 1: What does the computer and what do the ranking? And
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  Speaker 1: say time to go. That's right, it's time to go.
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  Speaker 1: It's time to go to to good. Computer's not working, right,
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  Speaker 1: that's about right.
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  Speaker 3: working at all? Yeah, I mean computers working. Just the
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  Speaker 3: music isn't working.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have it?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, that's all right, that's all right.
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• 16:18
  Speaker 2: All right, let's look back at a couple things we
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: talked about in the preview and how did they shake
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: out when the game was actually played. We mentioned Utah
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: had been really efficient tenth nationally and offensive success rate
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: coming in against a West virgin defense. It had been
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: really good hobby eleventh against opponent a success rate, So
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: how would that match up playoff play out? You saw
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: how it did. Utah was successful on fifty percent of
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: its plays. Put it in the eighty six percent time.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: They got a successful play fifty percent of the time.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: So that's like four yards on first down, seventy percent
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: of your yards on set by second down, and then
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: a first down on third or fourth. So they did
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: what they wanted to do against a defense again in
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: West Virginia that had been good in that category. We said,
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Utah wants to run it behind their big offensive line.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: This was this was surprising to me, guys. Their raw
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: stats were really good, ran it for nearly two hundred
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: and fifty yards, almost five yards per carry, but they
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: ended with a negative EPA rush for the game on
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: rush attempts, so the EPA expected points at it. It's
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: the change in the team's probability of scoring on each
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: particular play. So it wasn't the running game plays that
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: necessarily set up their scoring. It was what what we
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: talk about. So Utah, as we just mentioned, did whatever
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: it wanted throwing the football. It's EPA per pass in
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: the ninety eighth percentile coming out of that game nearly
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: ten yards per drop back, which was unbelievable, dampier seventeen
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: of nineteen for one to ninety five, and three touchdowns
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: on passes from zero to twenty yards, so h up.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: In that middle section of yards. West Virginia created a
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: ha it play from defensive backs on just one point
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: seven percent of the play so that's a pick or
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: a b added ball. Just could not get anything going
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: defensively against that pass game. That coverage grade from PFF
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: for WVU in this game was the fourth worst in
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: the last eleven seasons, excuse me, fourth worst in the
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: last eleven seasons on coverage grade. So again, I mean
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: you saw it, you watched that happen. We talked a
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: lot about third down instaid coming in. Utah was third
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: in the country an average third down distance to go
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: just four and a half yards. West Virginia had been
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: pretty good keeping teams to almost third and eight on average,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: so we thought that might be a key factor in
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: that game. If West Virginia any chance to stay close,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: had to put Utah in third and lungs. Utah's average
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: third down distance to go yesterday five point one yards,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: so almost right on average. That led Utah to converting
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: sixty two percent of its third downs. You heard Rich
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: mention that pretty early in his press conference, just said
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: we could not get off the field when we needed to.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Was that was one of the reasons. Some more numbers
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: defensively for West Virginia. You guys have asked twice now
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: about the tackling information. Yeah, it's the worst tackling grade
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: for a West Virginia team since that Missouri team in
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: September seventh of twenty nineteen, opening game of that season.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: So the worst tackling grade in the last five.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Secs over there in Columbia?
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: Was that?
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: What that one was?
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Was that?
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Here?
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: I was there? I think, right, yeah, there, right, I
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: was there?
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: What was the tackling grade?
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: It was in the thirty nine percent. Thirty nine grade,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: so worse than five years.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: So let's let's talk about that for a hair here.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Why do you think that happened?
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Do you have a theory? You look
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: like you have a theory.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: I just think Utah prides itself on being big and physical,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: and when it comes to the point of contact, they're
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: basically saying, I'm not going down here first hit.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah they are, But at some point too, they were
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: just misses, like they were sticking their foot in the
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: ground and moving and West Virginia guys were just missing
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: or running by the play. I didn't know that they
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: were very sound either.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Or or are so?
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Are so?
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Also? Does yards have to contact? How many times did
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: dwy say on the broadcast? Got to wrap up guys?
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: I mean just.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Yards after contact was huge. West Virginia's didn't wrap up,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: couldn't didn't tackle? Well, it was that was the most surprise.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: I think that was that was the most surprising part
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: of their game. Wasn't surprising that the offense couldn't do much.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: We knew that. That was really surprising, Tony, that the
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: defense just got manhandled like that for the entire game.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I don't disagree in one bit it was. It was
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: the biggest surprise for me of the whole game. Offensively,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: you knew of the struggles that you've been having, so
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: that was not anything new. Defensively, this group had given
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: you a feel that they could lock up and defend,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: and I don't know why that happened.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'll give you some numbers. I thought, if
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: you look at what the stats earning and THEASIL change
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: and mature a little bit yards after contact was it
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: was three yards per attempt after contact, one hundred and
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: thirty six of the two hundred and forty yards after contact,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: so significant number. But here's the number nineteen missed tackles
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: forced nineteen So you just weren't making the tackles there.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: That was a I'm with you, Tony, that offense you
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: expected to struggle a little bit, add the injuries on
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: top of your still trying to figure out what you
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: are offensively, But that defensive performance was just that was
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: a wow to me. Thirty first downs for Utah, that's
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: all you get, thirty first downs here on dominate the game.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, here's the number. Of all those numbers, here's
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: the one that jumped out the most, and I think
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: it speaks to the domination that Utah had offensively against
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: West Virginia's defense. Utah gained eighty six percent of the
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: available yards it had during the game. So based on
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: where every drive started in the field that was left
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: they got, they chewed up eighty six percent of those
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: available yards. Okay, I tried to do some quick numbers today.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: I haven't got all the way back, but to give
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: you some point of reference, So eighty six percent of
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: the available yards this season in Ohio, you gained fifty
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: one percent of available yards, pit forty nine percent, forty
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: four percent, KU just fifty one percent of available yards.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: I'll give you some more. Last season, Penn State handled
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: West Virginia pretty easily. Gained fifty six percent of the
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: available yards. Kansas State last year, a team that dominated
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: West Virginia gained just sixty percent of available yards. You've
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: got to go back to Texas Tech last year and
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: you still didn't get to this number. Texas Tech in
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: that last game last year were horrific.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Horrific.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Gained seventy nine percent of the available yards. So I
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: went back and spot checked some games over the last
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: seven or eight years. I could not find one where
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: it was eighty six percent of available yards. So it
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: was just as we've said, guys, I know you don't
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: need that number to back that up. That was a
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: wow performance from that Utah offense. In conversely, West Virginia's defense.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Which begs the question, now, what so these guys have
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: been scarred? Right? When these guys go back in here
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: and they watch that tape today and they put this
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: game down, this is a scar, the question becomes at
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: what level now do they go Do they accept the scar,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: shrug the shoulders and go we're not good or do
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: they say that as a one off and we will
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: redeem ourselves. That's the question.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's got to be the hope, right and again,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: if if you want to try and have some hope
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: in this, it's that Utah's offensive line is as good
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: as advertised and that you get some some matchups that
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: are a little more favorable moving forward. But yeah, if
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: they decide not to play, it's gonna be a long season.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: If they decide to bulk up, hulk up here and go.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: But man, that was a that was a rough one.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: If we do want to look at some things, pull
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: some some bright lights out there, Kertszival, if you want
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: to and try and look down the road. I thought
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: a couple performances are worth mentioning here. Western You did
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: have eleven big plays in that game, So classified his
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: passes of fifteen yards or more, runs of ten or
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: more Khalil Watt Wilkins, excuse me, it was involved in
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: four of those two passes two runs. I thought he
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: showed you a little bit.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Guys.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Now again, you're getting some different guys in there. Defensively,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I understand that. But when Wilkins was in I thought,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: overall had a pretty good performance. Left a couple passes
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: short that you would have liked to have back, but okay,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: that comes with experience. Thought he showed you a little
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: bit in that game. Door Hubbard filled in nicely sixty
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: one yards rushing for him in a first career start.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: He had that twenty nine yard run, so gave you
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: a little life in the run game Gerrod Bowie. It
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: was nice to see him rip off that sixty eight
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: yard run, the longest of the game. And then I thought,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: maybe more encouraging was the play of Malik Agbo in particular.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: He played a lot the transfer from Texas, and that's
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: a guy we've talked about and the question always was
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: he hadn't been playing much yet. Is that because he
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: just wasn't ready to get in there and Jack Picknell
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: and Rich weren't ready to put him in in that position,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: or is it because he wasn't going to be good
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: enough to make it? Thought he showed yesterday a little
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: bright spot there that hopefully that's the first the former
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: of that that he just wasn't quite ready the lead
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: block out in front. When Bouie took off for that
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: big run, guy had no chance to utah defender to
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: get around him. Fifth best offensive grade yesterday for Agbo
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: with a lot of snaps out of that tackle position.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: So I thought, again, that's one of the keys to
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: me moving forward with this program is we've seen Rich
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: do this before. We've seen it look really bad in
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: year one, and we've seen the real lows in the
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: year one. And then steadily that thing started to turn
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: around and you got to the point where you're playing
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: for a natty within five or six years of that.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: But moving forward next year.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: This offensive line has to find itself a little bit.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: Guys.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: It can't be a situation where Rich has to go
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: out and buy twelve new offensive linemen last year. You've
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: got to find some guys that you can start with
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: a nucleus for next year. Can Agbo be one of
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: those guys? Will Livingston be a guy? Will Cray be
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: a guy? There's got to be some of these younger
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: guys that are playing now that maybe aren't getting to
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: the level you wanted to, but that you look up
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: next year and we sit here and go, okay, you
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: got three returning starters or four returning guys that played
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: a lot. Then when you have to go out by guys,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: it's not a wholesale entire room. It's pieces you can
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: plug in. So it's a lot of words to just
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: say I thought Agbo performed well yesterday when he was
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: in as one of those linemen.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, your point is well taken. You would love to
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: have some foundational pieces of your offensive line by the
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: time the season's over. You can say, Okay, we can
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: win down the road with these guys, so you don't
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: have to go by twelve. But just to show you
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: how crazy this business is, Oregon who had the massive
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: win against Penn State, they brought in four of their
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: five starting offensive linemen in the off season. Four. They
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: only had one returning starter on their offensive line, and
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: that group hum. But I'm just thinking out a lot.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: They probably have two to three million dollars in their
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: offensive line. Those guys are probably making five to six hundy.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Well, I also think again, if you're looking for keys
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: to set you up next year, the eighty guys you
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: brought in, that's spreading your money thin because you had
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: to get volume as well. So if you're an organ,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: he didn't bring in eighty guys so you could you
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: could niche down your dollars a little more. Plus, yeah,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: you spent more because you were in that era of
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: free spending. Next season, what's that number that Rich needs
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: to bring in. If it's the closer it gets to eighty,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: the more challenges you're probably gonna have because you're spreading
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: your money too thin. Can you get that to a
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: point where it's forty six New guys next year, forty
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: guys next year where you have some some nucleus, not
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: just on the line.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Are you talking about forty guys that make additional money
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: beyond revshare dollars?
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: No, I was just talking in terms of roster turnover.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: If you've got to go get that many players and
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: you're taking your rev share money, it's just right common math.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: And you break that down over eighty players versus forty
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: new ones, that's that's going to be a problem. I
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: know you've got to retain, You're gonna pay some money
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: to retain guys. But if you got to go get
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: eighty guys again, that's that's what makes it tough.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: And who who gets retained? This quarterback room is fascinating,
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: and the quarterback gets the credit and the blame, and
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: but there's so many other things that go into You
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: can't just look at the quarterback, right. I Mean, we
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: talked a lot about the offensive line, but you got
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: now five guys who've played, who gets retained. You're not
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: gonna have those same five guys aren't going to be
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: there next year. So who emerges over this season as
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: the guy that you want to ensure is back or
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: are you still looking.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: No, I'll let you know. I'll let you know seven
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: games from that, right, I mean, that's what this is.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: This is dress rehearsal. This is audition on the job
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: right now. No, obviously some of these guys, you know Henderson, right,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: the clock is wound. But those other guys, Yeah, I mean,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: this is the world that you're in. This this remaining
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: games of the season are going to be determining who
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: they try to retain. That's what they're going to try
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: to figure out. They'll know that number, then they'll know
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: what they have to go get.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Well, you're you look again, You're you're kind of desperate
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: for bright spots. And with Wilkins yesterday, you're watching some
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: of it and and they on TV they showed Pat
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: White on the sideline, and you don't want to get
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: too carried away with that, but you're hoping for at
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: some point bred a guy because you know what Rich
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: is looking for, right, You're looking for a guy who's
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: exceptional in the run, who's a constant threat, who can
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: break things and also be adequate in the past game.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: H Yeah. A lot of people forget that. Patrick also
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: had one of the highest completion percentages at school history.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: They put them in great positions to throw the ball
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: right and a lot of people.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: I had guys that could catch the ball too correct.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. You know, this made me go back and look
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: at Rich's first season here in two thousand and one
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: when they went three and eight, and if you want
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: to do any kind of similarity, so West Virginia was
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: two and one after Rich's first three games here, end
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: of the season at three and eight. Yesterday's game, if
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: you're trying to find like commonality, that might have been
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: the Virginia Tech game of Rich's first year. On the
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: sixth of October, Virginia Tech came in, took the women
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: and the children and walked out of the bill with
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: a thirty five to nothing win. And that was but
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: you know what what that team did though, what that
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: team did though after that game. The following week, they
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: go at Notre Dame and lose thirty four to twenty four.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: But they played, they go to Miami. Miami was number
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: one in the country. Remember that game was that Derek
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Carter was the quarterback for West Virginia. Yeah, you remember
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: that Dame had to start him and they got beat
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: forty five to three. I think that was that game.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: Forty five to three.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at it now, forty five Derek Jones, my
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: bad Derreck Jones.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Derek Jones was the quarterback. And then they get beat
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: forty five three. Then they come home beat Rutgers. Here's
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: the problem, we don't have Rutgers on the schedule. Beat
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: them eighty to seven. That was that was your third
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: and last win. And then they played competitively, competitively in
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: the final three games of that year at Syracuse, they
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: get beat twenty four to thirteen, got beat at home
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: by Temple seventeen fourteen, got beat by Pitt twenty three seventeen.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: But you saw what you was doing toward the end
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: of that year. You were tightening the margin. What's this
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: game gonna do? Yeah?
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: In fair And you're right because of Syracuse. But Rutgers
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: like Rutgers. Now. I think they got beat yesterday too.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: But I mean that was the bad Rutgers era. Okay, Fair,
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Are they in the good Rutgers era?
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: Now?
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: I think they're better. They are there, And you know,
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Temple is Temple. That was a bad pit era, right,
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: So I just don't see, you know, Tony, looking at
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: the schedule I know what you're saying. This schedule does
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: not look promising to me. Where you look at these games,
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: go you know what you'll get these guys. I mean,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: who is out there where you say, boy, you got
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: a great chance to get healthy against this team.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: No, man, those days are over when you have, let's
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: face it, years gone by, you would look at the
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: schedule before the season started and you could put four
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: wins on there before you even put the ball into
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: the air. Go that's four, and then you go, okay,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: how many more can you go get that day? Except
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: for Ohio, you and Robert Morris, which did not happen
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: too and oh it went one and one. Except for
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: those two this year, there weren't any where you was
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: a guaranteed.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: W the way this season is going, the way it's going.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: At the end of the season, for loyal Mountaineer fans,
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: the caveat will be at least they beat Pitt. That's
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: what you're going to be able to hang your head.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: At least at least they beat Pitt at this moment,
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: at this moment, that's the only one that's in the bank,
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: and meaning that was a meaningful win. So at least
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: they beat Pitt and then go from there.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: I think your point's well taken there though of how
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: that first year under rich team started to close the gapple.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: But that that's what you're watching here. Can this can
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: this team improvers are going to lay down? I mean
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: that's that's the basic question that's in there is who
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: wants to stand up and try and try and play here?
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: And if you can can is the defense again? Is
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: that a one offer?
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Is that?
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Is that a real problem moving forward? So that that's
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: what you're looking for here. But you're right, guys at
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: b yu U c F totally rebuilt too, right, Scott
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Frost has come in there, but that's on the road.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: That makes that tough.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: TCU coming in get him at home. But man, after
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: what Dan Pierre just did through the air, you got
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Josh Hoover coming in, you can really throw it. Yeah,
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: that's a Houston team. I said this before when they
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: hired Willie Fritz, that's a shame. That's a shame for
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: everybody else. He's a really good coach and in year
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: two is when he starts to roll. If you've watched
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: that Houston team, they're much improved. They got they were
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: behind at Oregon State came back and won that game.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: You've got to go to Houston. That was one that
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: was probably gonna have a closer line than most of
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: these others. That's a tough game too. At Houston, Colorado
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: at home, they're scuffling along a little bit. Maybe by
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: then can they be in some trouble. Then you've got
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: to go out to Arizona State, who's got some real playmakers,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: and then of course you get Texas Tech at home
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: to finish.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: There's opportunities this thing. I don't know what it's going
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: to be. There are opportunities, as he just magined, there
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: are opportunities. Not every game is going to be against
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: the likes of Utah remaining. You've got opportunities. You got
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: to I mean, you're either going to go You're either
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: gonna get better or you're gonna get worse. I don't
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: think you're gonna stay the absolute same right now.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna say, Okay, that's a positive spin,
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: and I understand opportunities, but you this team has to
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: play differently to take advantage of opportunities. Absolutely, if you
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: play the way you play it Saturday, you're.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Not gonna win again. Yes, You're not gonna win again
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: if you continue to play like that, no question. Yeah,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: but you're allowed to get better. I heard a guy
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: say that once.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: That is what I want to see. Like take the
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: offense for a second, Like, does Wilkins emerge? Does he
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: emerge as a playmaking guy? How about Hubbard? We mentioned
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: he played well yesterday. Does that become a viable threat?
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: If it does, that's pretty remarkable. Guys, what you're running
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: back room has done. If he's able to show and
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: have a DC year, when's when's Ty Edwards back?
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: I would think next week? Right?
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Can Ty Edwards get back? And now you found deal
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: or Hubbard maybe a little bit too, And you're like okay,
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: And then to me, it's just that line, guys, it's
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: that line. And what's Agbo able to do to mix
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: in there? You saw Carson Lee get a lot of
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: run yesterday because of the Livingston injury, has long got
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: a lot of run yesterday. So you saw some other
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: guys in there that didn't do badly. As is that
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: group just gonna get better? You would hope, you would
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: hope that continues to get better. Get this offense so
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: that it can do something and remove some pressure from
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: the defense.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Kind of bit. We're kind of busy. We got events
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  Speaker 1: the seventh of October. We're having a fundraiser with the
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  Speaker 1: United Way, both Clear Mountain Bank and Hope Gas putting
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  Speaker 1: together a night with the mountaineers and mountaineer coaches and
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  Speaker 1: Mountaineer student athletes. Ross Hodge, Mark Kellogg, Jangreeney, Steve Sabing.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Wait, Greenie's a character, isn't she.
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  Speaker 1: She's the best she gets.
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  Speaker 3: She got into it the other night.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Sure she did. She coached, she competes, and we had
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  Speaker 1: fund at our Buffalo all in absolutely so we encourage you.
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  Speaker 1: You can go to our you can go to any
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  Speaker 1: Just go to any social We've got less than sixteen.
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  Speaker 4: There's sixteen tickets left.
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  Speaker 1: Sixteen tickets right now. That's October seventh at Touchdown Terrace
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: at the stadium. Well, there it is. You can take
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: a look at all the folks that are going to
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: be there. We'll also have live and silent auctions, WV
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: sports experiences, and Memories will be hosting it. It's going
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: to be a lot of fun moving mountains with the mountaineers,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Clear Mountain Bank, Hope Gas and all the money goes
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: to the United Way of Montegalia and Preston Counties. Also,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys know this, but we
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: like to contribute and we like to donate as well.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: We do so this was the Buckwheat Festival weekend in
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Preston County, one of the all time great festivals and
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: events in the state of West Virginia. And we last
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: night we were recording. Sunday, we took part in the
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Youth Live Stock Sale of the Preston County Auction Braden,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: if you could start to show some of those gingers.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: To start off with this picture, this is Austin Tenant.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Austin Tennant was the young man who raised this pig.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: We came in at tag number four to four, four
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: to four and we went to the Youth Livestock Sale
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: and we purchased a pig hog, a pig hog. That
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: hog that was raised and Austin did a great job
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: in raising him. And then there was a live auction.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Can we run the auction video? Please we run the
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: auction video. Get that up there? Can we get that
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: on the there's our pig guys, So yeah, there's Austin
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: with the pick up front. Watched the guy second to
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: last back row blue shirt. He was our desigknee. He
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: was holding the three guards before the game, placard. It's thout.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: We just we just bid hand up, our hands out.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: We bid a thousand. You can tell the rest of
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: the people in the crowd wanted nothing to do with
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: it once they knew that we were involved. They were
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: scared that there would be retribution if they bid. Look,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: so we're sitting there at the thousand. Nobody wants any
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: more of that action. And there it is. What listen,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: three guys before the game, Dave Tom.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: That's right, baby, sold to three guys before the game.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: We bought a hogful. We bought a you know.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: The bad news is that the bid before that was
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: two hundred dollars. But we just we went right to
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: a thousand.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: We just a thousand. We want the dog gone hog.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: So Austin Tenant who raised raised the hawk.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: So thanks to him raising it, and we're going to
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: donate that back to the United Way of Montingalia and
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Preston County.
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: So it's the pig, right because he gets a thousand, right, Yeah,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Austin gets a thousand.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: And we're going to donate the meat to folks that
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: couldn't need it use it. All right, good job. So
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: we're in the pig business. Got coffee, pigs, popcorn beer.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: The auctioneer was you're an auctioneer.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: So that was a real auctioneer. I liked his little
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: I like, what are you gonna get you? Now? Want
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: to get you twenty five? I love that stuff. Might
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: be doing it soon, I mean permanently. All right, here
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: we go, uh texter. I love these uniforms. They need
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: to be more worn more than once a year. Well
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: that opens up a whole can of worms. Back in
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six, West Virginia were blue pants at Maryland
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: in a rainstorm and it was it was at that
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: time that was a massive change of uniform and those
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: bad boys were never seen again.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: Well they did look good yesterday. They did there.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: They are good and there was a lot of merch
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: in the stands walking around there, like blue towels before
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: the thing wave. And it was that was a really
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: I know the game didn't come out like you wanted to.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: That's about as a plus as you can get in
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: execution of throwback uniforms, coupled with merchandise around it, coupled
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: with the ancillary stuff around the game, that was a
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: tremendous job of everything outside.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: The field to play yesterday.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: I liked the uniforms a lot. There's one caveat I'll
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: get to that, but the fact that our colors are
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: gold and blue. But really that gold is a yellow
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: if you look at the what's it called, the number,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: the PMS, the PMS number is really more of a yellow.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: As bad as is the gold we wear called athletic gold.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: I don't remember the official name of it.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: The true colors old gold, which was represented on those uniforms. Gestures.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: So I really like to look and it's just fun
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: to have retro uniforms and throw back that's very popular today.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: I'm obsessed by this light blue, as you know. And
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: you call it Star City blue because that was the
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: color of the bridge, which is no longer there.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: But it's either he didn't call it that, I mean,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: that's what it's in. The branding guy at the.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: University they call it. I mean he didn't name that.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: He said it one.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: It's in the branding guy called star City Blue. Yeah,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Tony didn't just throw that out. I don't know.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: I know why you would assume that he would just
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: throw something out like that. I understand where you're coming from.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: So I'm going for the actual name, and I'm looking.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: It could be Crayola's sky Blue of the Crayon. It
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: could be pale Cyan, it could be diamond. I'm just
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: looking at what the blue is actually called, because in
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: color patterns they don't call it Star City Bridge. I mean,
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: it has another name. So I was looking for what
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: it's called. Why are you are balling me? I'm just
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: looking for what it actually is.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, when you find out, call me.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I want to know what number it is.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: PMS color twenty nine to fifteen C. I know you
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: you have a former artist in your house, which is
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: probably why you're digging so much. Pantone twenty nine to
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: fifteen C twenty.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: On fifteen S would be the color. Okay, let me.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Chick on the Pantone blue of the throwback referred to
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: in the University brand guide as Star City Blue. So
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know what any of the names you were naming
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: there but twenty nine to fifteen fifteen pms color Thank you? Okay,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: you guys, go ahead. I'll try to fund out.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Really, can we go ahead? You do know we are recording?
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Oh when do we start? Guys? Is there a mid
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: season transfer portal? We need help everywhere? Utah have grown
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: men playing and we look like a high school team.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure which can dig us out of this
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: hole recruiting help. Hey, three guys, doctor Ed here. These
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: are not Division IE level athletes and would likely not
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: make it at D two against the Montanas and North
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Dakota States. I'm going to be in provo Friday. Will
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: that game be decided in the first half two? This
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: feels like my four years as an undergrad worst four
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: consecutive seasons in West Virginia history seventy six, seventy seven,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: seventy eight, seventy nine, except instead of Joe Pah roaming
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: the sidelines with the Nitney Lyons and viscerated Signetti's teams,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: we have this comedy of airs. Well, doctor d you
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: might be the problem you ever given into that. I mean,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to love you, doctor Ed. Texter, if
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: this year goes the way it appears. Two part question
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: over under fifty new players next season? You want to
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: hit that?
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what I was saying earlier that I think
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: that is the key to next season is how how
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: many of these guys can you can you retain and
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: feel like you can move forward with?
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Is there? If there is over fifty, do we expect
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: a year zero next year as well? Or do we
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: hope West Virginia can hang on to some key players? Yeah,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: we talked about that. That's the key Texter. Did we
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: switch to an FCS program in the offseason? Disappointment, frustration, embarrassment,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: call it what you want. This is not watchable. Question
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: now is how many of these new players can a
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: program bring in and expect success? Since it's obvious there
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: is little talent on either side. I'm already looking forward
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: to basketball season and I hope it turns out better
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: than this blank show. PS. I'm suppressing a Guinness Book
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: of World Record expletives right now and would have to
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: assign myself to an hour in the sad chair. If
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: I do so, it might be worth it.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: Pantone does not always assign a specific name to all
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: its colors. The PMS twenty nine to fifteen C is
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: generally referred to as Bright Sky Blue or pantone twenty
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: nine to fifteen C Curtin Crystal Lake.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: In game text two, part of Brad said several times
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: after rich is hiring that the portal means it doesn't
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: necessarily take several years to build a competitive roster. What
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: went wrong for West Virginia this year? Bad talent evaluation,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: lack of funds to attract power for talent. Secondly, who
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: lost WVU football fourteen years ago? We were an attractive
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: and competitive enough program for the Big twelve to say yes.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Since then, we've gradually descended into mediocrity, well formerly mediocrety
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: mediocre programs like Iowa State and Kansas who possess no
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: natural advantages have arisen to prominence. Thanks. I love what
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: you guys do.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Look it is wildly We have elaborated here extensively how
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: disappointing it was to be not competitive in that game
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: and the long season ahead. But you have to be.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: You have to have some patients. You have to have
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: some patients. You cannot judge rich Rod by this first season.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: I mean it is year zero. You have to have
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: patients in this, don't you, Tony On, I mean you
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: start I mean is I've said this is a restart.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: And you know when you're building a house and they
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: put the foundation in, you know what, construction site doesn
• 47:57
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• 48:00
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• 48:04
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  Speaker 2: And how fast you do that again, I think comes
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: back to if you're building that foundation, what's the foundation
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: look like? Did you get enough concrete in there to
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: fill the foundation up? And if you didn't, then it's
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: going to take longer. If you didn't got some foundational
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: pieces and you can go out and sprinkle and ad
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: and look for some specific skill or a tackle or two,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: not the twelve offensive lineman, then you're off and running
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: a little more quickly.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, danswer, craid, I don't think this is three and
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: four years. I truly don't. Rich's the way that Rich
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: despises losing won't permit him or allow him to let
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: this go for a long period of time. He knows
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: what he needs. He's done this long enough, he knows
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: what he has to go get. Now he has a
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: full understanding of what he needs to go get, and
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: they'll go get it. You got complete support from the
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: university and that will become even more clear in the
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: weeks and days to come athletically, and they'll go to
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: market and they'll get it all figured out.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: The other side of the portal is we talk about
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: we focus on going out and get getting guys.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: You lost guys.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Could you use Trey Lathan? Do you think Trey Lathan
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: can help you this season?
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I could use Jeremiah Trotter. Could you use Could
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: you use Thomas or Remac? Could you lose? You use it? Yeah?
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Johnny Williams, there's Johnny Williams. Yeah, you could use a
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: boatload of those guys. Sure, Texter. Not so fun game
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: to play? What Utah game was harder to watch? Twenty
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: seventeen in the heart of Dallas Bowl or last night's game.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: I think last night's game, because a bowl game sometimes
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: is just out there. Yeah in ethereal out there somewhere.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: This this to me was more meaningful.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: It means more. It Hey, three guys, Corey from Salt Lake.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: It hurts to watch. As a lifelong fan. I don't
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: have as much hair on my fire anymore, but I'm
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: still trying to hold the rope. Excited to see more
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: of Khalil Wilkins, hopeful he can get the ball to
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: cam Vaughnmore West Virginia. Family is coming to visit me
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: this week and we'll see you all of the people
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: you game ps b Yu gives ice cream to opposing
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: fans at the end of the first order. Oh so
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: we got that going for us. It's a nice gesture.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: You lay that bread. Well, come out. Then we were
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: there for basketball. They gave you that big cougar tail,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: big old donut. Remember that thing was about that big.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: They brought those out to us. But tell you what
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: they're they're Offully, they're over there. B Why you're Offully?
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Busy pushing pushing glucose? Aren't they pushing? Sure? One way
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: or the other. Either frozen or solid, They're gonna get
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: a sugar high. Hey, good morning, three guys. As I
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: reflect on this year team and the second coming of
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Rich In the famous words of Hermann Boone or at
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: least Denzel Washington, it's like novacine. We want it took
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: fast times. It doesn't give it time. It always works.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Patiences and expectation management are the same of the email
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: or the name of the game. My opinion, appreciate all
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: you do while Bill Rick and Marietta, it's still a
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: great day to be a Mountaineer, wherever you may be.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Before the season started, I told my eighty one year
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: old cousin that our beloved Mountaineers would finish the season
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: three nine or four to eight. By the way, he
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: loved the uniforms yesterday reminded him of his days when
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: he would watch games at old Mountaineer Field. They'd show
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: up early to watch the soccer team play and slowly
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: slip sip their favorite adult beverage in a bottle to
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: prepare for the game. The first year in charge a culture,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: the first year in changing a culture, is always the hardest.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: I look at this, but it builds the foundation for
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: a successful future. Even with today's portal and nil, we
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: will see a significant improvement by the end of the year,
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: which will be build a hard edge future for the Mountaineers.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Time for the tile and all and liquid four as
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: the kerchievel was flowing freely before during it after the game,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Rick and Marietta.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: By the way, I'm double checking this for Mountaineer fans
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: will make that trip, and I know not all Mountaineer
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: fans and buy, but many like to. Alcohol is not
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: allowed anywhere, know how. Stadium parking lot premises.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: That's correct that. In fact, I was informed yesterday by
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: one of the visitors from Salt Lake. He informed me
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: with the late start of the contest. He said, you
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: have to bring your own caffeine. They do not have
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: caffeine really as well, you can't.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: We all just go with the ice cream, so you
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: can't get you You've been known to have a cup
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: of coffee at some point, like before the game.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I might bring in a tanker if we have
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: the thermos, let's just send them out. They got that
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: Starbucks right there on the edge of campus. We went
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: to it a couple of times. You just hit that
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: right on the way in.
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, you.
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: Think they'll allow you to carry that in.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, don't think they. I don't think they'll stop
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: you from that. I just think they don't want it.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: They don't want to sell it. Okay, Texter, always a connection.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: I live in North Carolina. I have season tickets, so
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: I always send my boy to school with West Virginia
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: gear On. Well, guess what, another kid shows up the
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: same day in WUVU gear. They will be best friends
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: for life. Do we have that picture of the two
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: little sparkys. We're in WUVU gear in the classroom.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: They were to school.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: They just happened to go to a North Carolina school.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: They are. They both showed up. I like those little guys.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: It's cute as heck. So they're in North Carolina there
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: and they just showed up just coincidentally with West Virginia
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: gear On.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: You know it props to them for representing in hostile territory.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Sure, Texter, Hello, three guys. In spite of the rain
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: drops and REVCV running out of brisket, when I arrived
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: to your tailgate for the very first time, I still
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: enjoyed and pulled pork sandwich, loved the lemonade, and of
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: course the Connection three oh four, I chatted up the
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: world famous Jenning' starcher and dapped with Brad. It was
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: all very good atmosphere, in spite of the weather, In
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: spite of the result. Rev keV run out of brisket.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: Yes yeah, yesterday, yes yeah.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: Well I think he was maybe anticipating that the crowd
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: would be down because of the weather.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: Sold a bunch of pans too, and the pans went out.
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the pans went and soay, I thank you.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: Everybody showed up because it was raining almost right from
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: the very beginning, so we saw a bunch of people
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: come through, so thank you.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: You know what we had there, Antony, you couldn't come
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: because you had the Hall of Fame, which would like
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: to hear about from you. But it was it was just,
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: you know, few people, I mean not a few, more
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: than a few people in and out. We had a
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: nice visit standing under the tents as the rain came down. Enjoyed.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: It was fine.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Rob from Benwood, three guys tailgate before the game, Biscuit,
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Brisket and Connection three oh four, great stuff. Believe you
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: had your did you have your picture with this guy?
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: I had my picture made with him there. Yeah, he
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: is very nice, very nice.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: So that guy was loaded up there and you guys,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: that's before the rain.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: By the way, I took a texture suggestion from last game,
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: or maybe it was Thursday. I went biscuit brisket, biscuit
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: horse rush with egg.
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: And put the horse rash on. Oh boy, that was nice.
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: So thanks.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: I can't remember who made that suggestion in the text,
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: but thank you went right in on it.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: At horse Radish. It's a little stupid good.
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: It was good.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: Does he make his own.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe he does. I believe yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: this was pretty wild. You guys weren't there Friday when
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: I was over at the food court. This is Neamyah
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: from Saint Albans. He's a freshman at West Virginia. It
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: was nice to meet you again at the food court Friday.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: We had a great conversation. Also, did we find our quarterback?
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: So take a look at this. I took my picture
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: with Nea Mayah and he was with two other buddies,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: three kids, all of them freshmen at West Virginia from
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Saint Albans, And they said, can I get my picture
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: taken with? You? Said sure, and then I said he
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: said I had my picture taken with you when I
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: was eight years old, what at the Charleston Civic Center,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: And do we have that picture? Brayden don't have that picture.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: So anyway, he showed me a picture of myself and
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: him and j Jacobs before Mountaineer basketball game down in Charleston.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: And what stunned me was that I had a beard.
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: What you did?
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do not remember it was where it is heck,
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: because it was a January game and I thought the
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: only time I'd ever grown a beerd was like November.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Will you do the thing?
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: No shave November?
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, Now you kept yours from.
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: That, just kept I said, I'll just keep it.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: I don't remember you having a beard. Yeah.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, three guys, Steve and Kim Raleigh, North Carolina,
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: were into this weekend. Had the fortune and great timing.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Matt bradded Daniels, met Hoppy at the food court, ran
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: into Coach Wallace at our hotel. We only missed Tony
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: this time and have yet to meet him. I know
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: Tony is out amongst the public often, but for us,
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: he's like trying to find the mothman or sasquatch in
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: the West Virginia Hills. Hey we have I can't say
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: enough how much we've enjoyed talking everyone and they have
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: interest in my journey from Gary, West Virginia to where
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: I am today. By the way, we dropped off a
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: bag of North Carolina goodies to Hoppy, So we hope
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: you guys all enjoy keep up the great work.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, bags right there, Steve from the Free State of
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: macdal County. Yeah, so I did, in fact, Brad bring
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: that in today.
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Mackie's Fairy Peanuts, Chocolate, very Good, Chapel Hill Toffee, Dewey's Bakery,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: Pumpkin Spice cookies.
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: Hey, Braden, see if you can find the picture of
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: Steve and Kim Smith this stuff. I'm sorry that is so.
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: I saw them in Daniels.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: On Friday, I believe, or was it Saturday? Wouldn't I
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: say I saw them in Daniels? Yeah, they were there.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a bunch of pictures of you there. You're
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: and Daniels there with them.
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Steve was getting his stuff.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: So what's the story on this? Uh?
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: People love that?
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: What is what is it?
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: People? Just pop soda?
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: What's it called?
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Sheer wine?
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: Cheer wine?
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: People like that.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you very much. And we had had a
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: great visit with him.
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they were.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: They were really nice talking to Steve, had his Steve
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: had nice purchases there from final looking Phil had all
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: the throwback gear out there.
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: Steve is loading three guys.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: Really, there's no sense for me to seek any healing
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: after Utah. There's nothing to say that probably hasn't been said.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Still keeping the faith as I conclude my Midwestern swing
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: the Kansas game last Saturday, brutal in person, but I
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: was able to belt out country roads with our boy
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Charles Wesley Godwin in Kansas City on the following Saturday night.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: A fine representative of our state and of the college.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Is a picture there of Charles in concert in Kansas City.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: I want to give this shout out to Charles. He
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: dropped a new album Friday, Live in Pittsburgh, Live in
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: the Steel City. And by the way, that was the
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: music there that they played at the food Court on
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: Friday night. When I was over, they had Charles Frida up.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: Did you see they announced the lineup for Stage Coach,
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: which I think is out in California in April at
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: the Big Time lineup. Just day after day of concerts
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: and the days that Charles or the day that Charles
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: is in He's in there with Landy Wilson and Riley
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: Green are a couple of the other performers on the
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: day that he is going on concert.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: That's richest boy from down Jacksonville State. I think he's
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: a big fan. Yeah, he used to hang out there
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: with those guys.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: He's kind of blowing up too. Yeah, Charles blown up.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: So that's a good set, Lady Wilson, Riley Green, Charles Wesley, Yes,
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: among others.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: So if you're like music, if you'd like to listen
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: to Charles's latest album, by all means, you can download
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: it wherever you get your music. But it's a live
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: album and it sounded really really good. Tutor's Biscuit World
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: is one of our sponsors. Robert Griffin the third. He
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: won a Heisman. True, he won a Heisman, right, he did.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: So it was funny I go into the booth yesterday
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: because he did color on those Yeah, he did. I
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: went into the TV booths the TV and I talked
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: to my boy Jason Bennetti, friend of this program. Yeah
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: he is, and just he's the he's the best and
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: he said, Hey, we got two more Syracuse guys here.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: My spot is a Syracuse guy. My stats guy's a
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: Syracuse guy. Stat guy, Syracuse guy, but also Zack Spiker's
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: s I d over there at Drexel Dragons anyway. So
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Robert walks in while we're cobitsing there and uh, I said,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: where'd you end up eating? And Jason says to me,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: you guys know each other and I said no. I said,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: there's this thing called social media, and he put it
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: out there. He wanted to know where to go. He said,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: I went to tutors and he got two biscuits. RG.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Did you ask him if he ate both? Well, here's
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: the part of that, I said. He goes one of
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: them is right here, had it in the booth with
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: them at that time, middle of the afternoon. Uh huh,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: he said, I ate one. He said, that's the biggest
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: biscuit I've ever seen in my life. I said, could
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: you eat too?
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: Thank you?
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: He said, if my life depended on it, yes, but
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: that's the biggest biscuit in the world. I ate one,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: but he had it there. I don't know if he
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: took it down during the game. Was at a halftime
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: snack postgame driving back up to the airport.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: So he went one save the other one for later.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: So Tutor's Biscuit World served RG three this weekend and
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: willing to serve you as well. If you're into the
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: biscuit moods dot buy why wouldn't you? I saw I
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: saw Lauri and George by the way they came through
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: the tail Friday night. Didn't get a chance that I
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: wanted to talk to him. They quickly dissipated.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: But anyway, well, I see if for RG three one
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: to franchise, because those are available.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: They are with over seventy franchises. Tutors Biscuit World is
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: continuing to seek franchisees. If you'd like to own a
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Tutor's Biscuit World, now is the time visit them. Unbelievable food.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: Those three new sauces at Hunting Seracha Carolina Gold, Carolina
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: Gold and Sweet Teraoki along with the Sweet Rays which
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: is the original. Of course you knew that, and check
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: it out Tutor's Biscuit World. Start your day at the
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Homemade A no brainer for three.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: You've heard the comments under his when he asked where
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: he should go. It was like four out of five
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: comments were.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: Tutors, so he had we really had to go there?
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: Yea overwhelming choice from the Yeah.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: The comment suggestion he went to Kegler's for his dinner
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: Friday night, So I.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: Mean he got the full, He got the full, got
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: the full experience.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: One more food court shout out, you would have liked this.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: Came over and said hello, introduced himself. Garrett Ford Jr.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: In attendance. I saw him getting some barbecue at REVCVS
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: and pop it over to say hello. It was great
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: to see him and catch up a little bit.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: So I saw him at the Hall of Fame. I
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: thought the Hall of Fame was fantastic and great class.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: Great class. I mean Chelsea Carrier Eads, eight time All
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: American from Upshire County, now lives in Bridgeport. I mean
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: her accomplishments are just breathtaking, and she had her four
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: little girls there and just fantastic. Petro Zoo Blossing, three
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: time National Champion rifle number. She's from Italy, so I
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: talked to her. She's from up in the northern part
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: of Italy. I said, are you there now? She said no,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: I'm in Paris coaching.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: Did you talk to her mom, did you break down
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: some of your Italian I saw, I guess I was
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: the first time she'd been in the United States.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: First time in the United States, so her her her
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: story was great. I come from a very small village.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: When I left, there were all kinds of tears in
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: my family. Did I'm just going to a new world
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  Speaker 1: and I come here and I make a whole new
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  Speaker 1: family and it changed my life. And Darryl Whitmore was fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: His speech was fantastic. Maybe what's he doing? Then he's
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  Speaker 1: in Indiana. Come to find out he lives one exit
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  Speaker 1: away from Dwight Waller heard that on your program yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: He popped in the booth. But he he was tremendous
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  Speaker 1: what it meant for him to be here. And he
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  Speaker 1: mentioned Garrett Ford Senior. He said, like a father figure
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  Speaker 1: changed my life. Right, So his speech was great. Then
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: you had Blaine and Karen Stewart speaking on behalf of
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  Speaker 1: the late Bill Stewart. That was awesome.
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  Speaker 3: It was Blaine there, Blaine video video.
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  Speaker 1: You had Pat McAfee. His was off it you gotta
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  Speaker 1: go find it. She did it on set at game
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  Speaker 1: day at Penn State. Did it that morning and had
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  Speaker 1: the entire Penn State group student body that was there
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  Speaker 1: at game sing Country Roads. It was awesome. That's quite
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  Speaker 1: an only pack.
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  Speaker 2: He just nails it right. Just went on one of
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  Speaker 2: his rifts and it was excellent.
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  Speaker 1: And then Bill Kurlavich and he was incredibly grateful to
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  Speaker 1: be going into the Hall of Fame. And I received
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  Speaker 1: three texts Saturday morning before the event of guys that
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  Speaker 1: played for ker Lab, guys that were formed Mountair football
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  Speaker 1: players who said they changed, he changed their life. And
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  Speaker 1: then I run into Chris Parker, Yeah, number ninety four.
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  Speaker 1: Both Chris and his brother Scott. Scott was an offensive
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  Speaker 1: lineman and Chris and he Chris told me, and I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know this, his dad died when he was a
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  Speaker 1: junior in high school. He said, car Lab became my father.
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  Speaker 1: And he said everything I do, like all my life
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  Speaker 1: lessons were because of him. And he goes, you know,
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  Speaker 1: this big environment thing, this crowd here, that this is
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  Speaker 1: not my thing. So I went to his house yesterday
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  Speaker 1: and he said I hadn't seen him since the mid
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  Speaker 1: nineteen nineties. I start walking up the driveway and Maggie,
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  Speaker 1: Bill's wife was there, and he gets up to Curlab
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  Speaker 1: and Curlab's just looking at him, doesn't recognize immediately, and
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  Speaker 1: he goes. He goes, and Chris is going like you
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  Speaker 1: kidding me? Are you kidding me? He said, I spent
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  Speaker 1: like three hours with him. He said, it was just awesome,
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  Speaker 1: just a fantastic class.
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  Speaker 3: I called you to laugh Friday and just said, I
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  Speaker 3: won't keep you. I know you're busy with a lot
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  Speaker 3: of stuff. I just want to congratulate only very appropriate.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, thank it's great.
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  Speaker 3: You know, but he's just he is. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 3: how well he would fit in today's environment. He gets
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  Speaker 3: still good. I mean, but he was such a such
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  Speaker 3: a good coachy. B developed guys. I developed guys, and
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  Speaker 3: see the longevity unbelievable. It was fantastic. I mean, he
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  Speaker 3: was such an integral He was such an integral part
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  Speaker 3: of that nel and era of building the West Virginia
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  Speaker 3: football program. And just a great character there.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say, is the character,
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  Speaker 2: because we all just did every time you say her.
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  Speaker 4: Laugh, what do you do you start laughing? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Right, because of just all the stories and the voice
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  Speaker 2: and the demeanor and the whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: Just had on backwards and but you know what, this
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  Speaker 1: is why he could still coach today, Because he could
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  Speaker 1: still coach today because his kids respective well, because they
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  Speaker 1: know and they knew that he cared. Yes, yes, did
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  Speaker 1: he have did he have a rough, gruff demeanor? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: And was he super loud? Yes? But you know what
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: man like they responded to that he wasn't He wasn't
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't maliciously negative toward them, just collective like there's
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: a fine line between being an asshole and being someone
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: that gets attention and demands discipline. And these guys, just
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  Speaker 1: like Gravit, hated to him.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Charlie Fedorco texted me and said when his dad got
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: sick like cur laugh constantly checked in with him. For
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: Darco said he took him on his recruiting visit at
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  Speaker 1: the Hotel Morgan and he had never had a steak
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: and he looked at the menu. He said, everything I
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: saw on the menu I didn't even recognize. And he said, like,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: do they have like I forget what charge are? Like
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: hot doggers And he goes, he goes, what are you
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: talking about? He said, get to kid a fil A
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: and the lady said, how do you want it? Cooked,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: and he said, and he just looked at her lab.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: He goes, he wants a medium rare like that's cur
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  Speaker 1: lab to a tea. Right, that's curlab to a tea.
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  Speaker 4: It's great.
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  Speaker 1: And I think, yes, he could coach today. He absolutely
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  Speaker 1: could coach day. We need more guys like him that
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  Speaker 1: hold people, that hold people and force people to do
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  Speaker 1: the right thing and change these Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: My point was that the whole thing with players getting
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  Speaker 3: paid and with the transfer portal and all that, I
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  Speaker 3: think he and he and I talked about that a
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  Speaker 3: little bit yesterday. I think he would have struggled with that.
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  Speaker 3: But in terms of the actual X and O and
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: coaching and and what you do in practice, he loved.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: You know what I asked him, I said, what do
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  Speaker 3: you miss it? I missed the practices because I love
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: the practice of the game. I was always too tight.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but he loved because he loved to coach.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well that's football, man. Football is a training sport.
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  Speaker 1: You only play twelve, right, or you play a few
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  Speaker 1: extra Maybe that's a training spot. You train in ninety
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  Speaker 1: five percent of the time, you play it five percent
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: of the time. That's why those coaches love practice. But
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: one thing he said, he said, you know, I give
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: great respect to late Frank Signetti. He said, he hired
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: me from his deathbed, hired me from his deathbed, gave
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: a ton of props, gave it to Tricket Rick Trickett,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: and God opened the door to get him in here.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: To Don Neel, to Rich Rodriguez, Stu, Stu, yes, Stu,
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  Speaker 1: I mean just just he just a piece by piece
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: by piece by piece. Steve, Steve Dunlapp, he laid all
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: those guys, I just fantastic. And then last but not least,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: it was great. He had his speech was like typed,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: regular computer printed. That at the bottom of the last
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: page was like your legal pad. Over there was handwritten
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: and he said, in this page I stuck in myself,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: he said. My daughter helped me print this, he said,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: but I wrote this because I knew if my wife
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: knew it was in here, she wouldn't let me read it.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: And it was to his wife, I said, she ran
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: the ran the whole show. So it was great.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: That was That was tony for you, well, for West
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: Virginia fans, for those athletes, and for mountaineer nation. That
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: was a real bright spot and great memories on an
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: otherwise dreary day.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, there will be. There will be brighter days.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: There will be brighter days. We'll get the thing. It'll
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: get fixed. It'll get fixed, it will, it will. All right,
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  Speaker 1: we're out so this week because we fly on Thursday,
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  Speaker 1: we need to record on Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, be here, Yeah, Wednesday is also National Coffee Day.
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  Speaker 2: Excuse me, National Coffee Day. Really, we may be over
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  Speaker 2: at Mountaineer Roasting, serving little coffee.
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  Speaker 1: Can you think Rusty might give us like a bag
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  Speaker 1: or something.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'll give us anything, but we'll
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  Speaker 2: be over there helping. We might work that day that morning,
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