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MOTHERHOOD IN FOCUS: Annie Thorisdottir On Body Acceptance & Handling Negative Feedback · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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  Speaker 1: I am just going to put on this blanding site
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  Speaker 1: and I'm just going to be proud of my body,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm proud of what I've done, and there's nothing
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  Speaker 1: I would change. I have this baby or all, and
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  Speaker 1: that's what I wanted, and I look the way that
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  Speaker 1: I look, and if people need to judge, they will
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  Speaker 1: just have to get to judge for it. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: proud of doing that, but I also admit it was
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  Speaker 1: really really hard for me.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, Emily a body here bring you another installment
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  Speaker 2: of this week's special in focus series on motherhood. Leading
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  Speaker 2: up to Mother's Day, I am chatting with six extraordinary women,
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  Speaker 2: some moms, some not, but each of them with a
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  Speaker 2: story to tell forever, shaped by the women that came
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  Speaker 2: before them. Today for the show, I am chatting with
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  Speaker 2: Annie Thora's daughter. She is Crossfits two times fittest woman
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  Speaker 2: on Earth. The Rebox sponsored athlete is a new mom
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  Speaker 2: of a pandemic born baby. In today's episode, we talk
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  Speaker 2: about all of it, from how she got into sport
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  Speaker 2: to what it was like when she found out that
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  Speaker 2: she was pregnant. We also chat about how Annie navigated
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  Speaker 2: critical feedback on her workouts during pregnancy as well as
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  Speaker 2: her timeline to getting back into the swing of things
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  Speaker 2: after having her baby, Freya. She also shares the one
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  Speaker 2: thing that could make her pull back leading up to
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  Speaker 2: the CrossFit Games and give some seriously helpful advice to
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  Speaker 2: any other new mom struggling just to handle the day.
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  Speaker 3: Today.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sitting down with Annie thora daughter. She is the
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  Speaker 2: two time fittest woman on Earth, an avid CrossFit athlete.
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  Speaker 3: How you doing, Annie, I'm doing great.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so excited. You may be. So you're in Iceland
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  Speaker 3: right now?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I'm a nice one. Right now.
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  Speaker 2: This is the farthest distance between like the person that
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  Speaker 2: I am recording with that I have been to date.
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  Speaker 3: Really, how has it been an Iceland? What's going on
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  Speaker 3: over there for you?
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  Speaker 4: It's good. We're starting to see a glimpse of summer,
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  Speaker 4: which is amazing.
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  Speaker 3: It's amazing.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, it was so nice in town.
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  Speaker 1: Some at the summerhouse right now, my parents' summerhouse, and
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  Speaker 1: it was so nice weather in town. And then we're
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  Speaker 1: driving us two days ago and we're driving in the
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  Speaker 1: sun and my parents are like, oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: We just arrived to the summerhouse and it's snowing here.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh.
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  Speaker 1: Man, and then we came and it was sunny, so
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  Speaker 1: like we're working around it like freezing still, but once
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  Speaker 1: we get the sun out and it's not wind, it's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: We actually change outside today, just like Frederick was shirtless
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  Speaker 1: and I was on the tank. I'm like, this does
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  Speaker 1: not happen very often, so we take in everything we can.
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  Speaker 3: We would love to hear it.
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  Speaker 2: The pandemic has been quite eventful for you, as it
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  Speaker 2: has been for many, but for you specifically because over
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  Speaker 2: the pandemic you had a baby girl.
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  Speaker 3: Congratulations, thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, so I actually got something done during this pandemic.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of people are like.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you don't count the time when kohit was going
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  Speaker 1: on and nobody was doing anything. I'm like, well, I
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  Speaker 1: was explained, I was doing something. I got something accomplished.
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  Speaker 3: Well, before we break into what life has been like
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  Speaker 3: with you with your baby, what life was like while
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  Speaker 3: you were pregnant, I'd love it if you could give
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  Speaker 3: the Hurdle listeners a little bit of insight into how
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  Speaker 3: you got into sport.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I did gymnastics growing up. I was always
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  Speaker 4: active as a can and every time there was a
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  Speaker 4: challenge to do something, I would be the first one like, no,
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  Speaker 4: I can do it. I can do it. Let me.
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  Speaker 4: Having two older brothers.
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  Speaker 1: I got really really competitive and it was never a
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  Speaker 1: thing like their boys and I'm a girl, so I
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  Speaker 1: can't do it. Because I'm a girl. That wasn't a thing.
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  Speaker 1: If they could do something, I wanted to show that
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  Speaker 1: I could do it too, And that was just how
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  Speaker 1: I was raised. And then going into sports. I started
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  Speaker 1: gymnastics and did that for ten years, and then when
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  Speaker 1: I started high school, I was like, okay, now I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to be serious about just my studies and knew
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  Speaker 1: that I was not going to the Olympics or anything
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  Speaker 1: in gymnastics. I was getting quite tall and starting to
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  Speaker 1: realize the dangers of gymnastics, so I stopped, like daring
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  Speaker 1: to do a lot of things and then your career
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  Speaker 1: in gymnastics is done. So I stopped and started doing
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  Speaker 1: dance and ballet and competing. I got into the dance
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  Speaker 1: academy here in Iceland and ballet, and then I started
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  Speaker 1: competing in just like these random fitness competitions. In Iceland,
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  Speaker 1: we have like these weird sporting events where you like
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  Speaker 1: do a bunch of sit ups and push ups and
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  Speaker 1: jump over a box and then you run into bench
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  Speaker 1: press and it's like all for time and you compete
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  Speaker 1: in this. And I started competing in these and started
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  Speaker 1: winning and thought it was really really fun. It wasn't
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  Speaker 1: like fitting with ballet. And then I started doing pole
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  Speaker 1: vaulting and that was also amazing, Like became the Icelandic
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  Speaker 1: champion indoors and outdoors in pole vaulting. A few years
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  Speaker 1: and my plan was to go to Olympics in pole vaulting,
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  Speaker 1: but I was always competing in these random competitions at
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  Speaker 1: the same time. And then one of the random competitions
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  Speaker 1: I signed up for was crossfin That was two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and nine, and I won that competition and by winning it,
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  Speaker 1: it was like Issen had a wild card at the
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  Speaker 1: Cross Day Games that year.
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  Speaker 4: By winning it, I.
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  Speaker 1: Got an invitation to compete at the Crossjay Games, and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, why not, let's do that. I get
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  Speaker 1: to go to the USA and compete, and it just
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  Speaker 1: sounded intriguing to me. So I went with a very
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  Speaker 1: good friend of mine, a training partner, and my parents
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  Speaker 1: came with us, and I was nineteen.
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  Speaker 4: Years old and.
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  Speaker 1: It was one of the coolest experiences I've I've gone
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  Speaker 1: through because it was nothing what I imagined it was
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  Speaker 1: going to be.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't really know what I was going into.
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  Speaker 1: But it was so difficult and yet so much fun because, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I guess because I didn't know what I was going into.
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  Speaker 1: I was getting challenged in so many different different ways.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, I did ballet, I did pole, all thing.
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  Speaker 1: But I never felt like any of this stuff was enough.
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  Speaker 1: I always wanted something, I felt like it was too
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  Speaker 1: much the same. And then getting to compete and CrossFit,
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  Speaker 1: it was all of a sudden everything I wanted. I
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  Speaker 1: was getting to run, I was getting to lift heavy weights,
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  Speaker 1: I was getting to gymnastics and skill and it was
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  Speaker 1: I felt like I found my sport and I certainly did.
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  Speaker 1: And after competing there, I actually I was in second
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  Speaker 1: place going into the final event, and then we had
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  Speaker 1: this skill that I'd never done before, and I failed
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  Speaker 1: my muscle up. So I got my first one, but
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  Speaker 1: I didn't manage to finish, so that meant that I
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  Speaker 1: dropped on the lead aboard. But it was also something
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  Speaker 1: that just lit this fire in me. I found something
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  Speaker 1: that I couldn't just muscle my way through. I actually
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  Speaker 1: had to practice more and get better at it, and
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  Speaker 1: I decided to give cross it one more year.
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  Speaker 4: And here I am.
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  Speaker 1: But then ten years later and I'm still giving cross
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  Speaker 1: It one more year.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.
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  Speaker 2: It's so crazy to hear that story and going into
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  Speaker 2: that competition with such a level of blind faith in yourself.
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  Speaker 2: Because my first question to you was going to be
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  Speaker 2: if coming over from Iceland, when you got to that competition,
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  Speaker 2: if there were movements or things that were more popular
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  Speaker 2: over here that you hadn't been doing back at home.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I only had two months to prepare for the
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  Speaker 1: Crossway Games and went to across the gyms to get
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  Speaker 1: some help and saw some coaches learned some Olympic weightlifting,
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  Speaker 1: but I decided, like the highest skills, I wasn't really
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  Speaker 1: going to get them, and I didn't expect them to
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  Speaker 1: have rings like I was in gymnastics, but rings are
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  Speaker 1: a male movement, so I somehow just didn't expect them
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  Speaker 1: to have that. So I didn't practice anything on that.
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  Speaker 1: So there was definitely and there were more things that
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  Speaker 1: came up. Dave he would like Dave Castro, he would
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  Speaker 1: say the workout and then almost every single time me
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  Speaker 1: or my training partners same there and we'd be like, sorry, wait,
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  Speaker 1: what is that movement? And then it had like demonstrated
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  Speaker 1: and like talk us through it. So that was that
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  Speaker 1: was kind of my experience. But it was also so
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  Speaker 1: cool because every single time it's like, yeah, no problem,
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  Speaker 1: I'll show you and I'll teach you. And my competitors
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  Speaker 1: and people in the audience and everyone were so helpful
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  Speaker 1: and fun and it was it was definitely different to
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  Speaker 1: other competitions I've been.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so sure of it.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: So what a cool story, because, as you said, you
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  Speaker 2: went back for your second time and then the rest
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  Speaker 2: is history. Something that goes hand in hand with your
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  Speaker 2: rise in CrossFit is also I'm sure more and more
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  Speaker 2: people following along with you on social media, and so
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  Speaker 2: as you start to excel as an athlete, there are
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  Speaker 2: more eyes on you. I've heard you speak about this before.
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  Speaker 2: More eyes means more critical feedback. So as you are
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  Speaker 2: a woman excelling in your sport, you're super muscular, talk
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  Speaker 2: to me about how you first started to navigate people
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  Speaker 2: having an opinion on the way that you looked.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that actually started. I didn't really have when I
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  Speaker 1: won the first time. I didn't have social media like
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  Speaker 1: I obviously I had Facebook and I started my fan
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  Speaker 1: page on Facebook, but that was kind of the biggest
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  Speaker 1: platform that I had. But even twenty ten, yeah, the eleven,
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  Speaker 1: every time the camera came on me and they were
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  Speaker 1: doing interviews p English definitely was not perfect. But I
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  Speaker 1: always got the question like, so, and how is it
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  Speaker 1: having so much muscle being a girl at this age
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  Speaker 1: and having so much.
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  Speaker 4: Muscle, Like how is it at home?
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  Speaker 1: And the funny thing was I had never really thought
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  Speaker 1: about it. I had never gotten the question here at
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  Speaker 1: home in Iceland, how is it to have that much
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  Speaker 1: muscle being a girl? But I got that question multiple
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  Speaker 1: occasions in the US, and that question continued to rise up,
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  Speaker 1: and that got me thinking, how is it to be
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  Speaker 1: a girl having so much muscle? Like it had never
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  Speaker 1: been an issue for me or anything. Obviously. Sometimes when
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  Speaker 1: I put an address and I was in high school
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  Speaker 1: and I had a six pack shown throw, I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's different, like maybe I wish I wouldn't have that,
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  Speaker 1: But then a few minutes later, it's like, I don't care.
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  Speaker 4: It's my body and I worked really hard for it,
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  Speaker 4: and it.
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  Speaker 1: Is what it is like I can't really I was
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  Speaker 1: almost born with us expac I guess, so I can
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  Speaker 1: really change it. It was something obviously obviously I've had
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  Speaker 1: some there's some things that I've wanted to change on
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  Speaker 1: my body, and I think every single woman has had
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  Speaker 1: that probably meant as well. But I think we criticize
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  Speaker 1: our bodies and ourselves more than men do.
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  Speaker 2: So interesting to hear you say like, yeah, there was
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  Speaker 2: a point that I wish I didn't have that because
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  Speaker 2: you always kind of want, you know, the shoe from
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  Speaker 2: the other foot, right, like you want the thing that
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  Speaker 2: you don't have. So so many women would be like, wow,
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  Speaker 2: I would like slay for Annie's abs, and then there
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  Speaker 2: are times where you're like, oh, I would slay, like
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  Speaker 2: just for a minute, not for this to be so obvious.
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  Speaker 2: And then also, I mean, you brought up a really
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  Speaker 2: good point about American culture, which I would say hopefully
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  Speaker 2: with the body positivity movement is becoming more and more
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  Speaker 2: accepting of women of all shapes, of all sizes, of
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  Speaker 2: all backgrounds to come here and this is the place
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  Speaker 2: that you get asked about that. That's such an interesting
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  Speaker 2: and interesting point.
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  Speaker 4: No, absolutely, and I do feel like it's changed.
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  Speaker 1: A little bit over the years, and I guess also
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  Speaker 1: as you grow as a person, the more you start
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  Speaker 1: just being confident in your own skin. And that's something
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  Speaker 1: that i've especially with the years. That's something that I
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  Speaker 1: want to try to be a role model to other
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  Speaker 1: women and young girls, just to be happy in their
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  Speaker 1: own skin, because it's we have this one body and
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  Speaker 1: we're not gonna obviously we can mold it into what
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  Speaker 1: we want it to be, but the most important thing
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  Speaker 1: is having energy to do the things that we want
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  Speaker 1: to do. It doesn't matter what we look like. And
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  Speaker 1: I think it's really important also to be open then
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  Speaker 1: about some of those things that you might have an
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  Speaker 1: issue with on yourself and kind of accepting it and
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  Speaker 1: being okay with telling other people about it, Like there
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  Speaker 1: are like I said, while it was a teenager, the
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  Speaker 1: Six Pact was bothering me, and I've had like I said,
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  Speaker 1: there's obviously other things. It's like scars that you might
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  Speaker 1: get on your shins and scars that might get on
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  Speaker 1: my arms from things that I've done and my training
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  Speaker 1: and stuff. But now I feel like it's more a
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  Speaker 1: part of my journey. It's just a part of who
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  Speaker 1: I am. It shows some of the hard work that
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  Speaker 1: I've put in, and I'm proud of these things. And
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  Speaker 1: I think even more so after having Freya. It's gotten
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  Speaker 1: even more important to me to try to be showing
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  Speaker 1: that I am okay with the way that I look,
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  Speaker 1: even though I might sometimes not feel at my very
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  Speaker 1: very best. And looking back at some of the videos
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  Speaker 1: where I see myself training, I'm like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: and I felt like I was soft at this time.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so fit, and it kind of makes you realize
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  Speaker 1: this distorted body imas that we tend to have of ourselves.
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  Speaker 1: And I definitely caught myself, especially after giving birth. I
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  Speaker 1: obviously have not gained my body the same way as
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  Speaker 1: it was before, but I had a belly for a
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  Speaker 1: while and I still have some like I have extra skin.
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  Speaker 4: I got a really really big belly.
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  Speaker 1: I had very often heard women say that, and my
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  Speaker 1: girlfriends say that they still hadn't gone to the swimming
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  Speaker 1: pool after they give after they had their baby because
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  Speaker 1: they didn't feel like they liked their body enough for that,
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's so stupid, Like it's so silly,
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  Speaker 1: because you did something incredible and honestly nobody's going to
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  Speaker 1: be looking at you, judging you for the way that
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  Speaker 1: you look. Yeah, it's only you that's going to be
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  Speaker 1: thinking those things.
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  Speaker 2: I also feel and wonder if, right at first, did
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  Speaker 2: you feel as strong in this mentality, because I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: that there were certainly, you know, weeks months on end,
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  Speaker 2: especially when you couldn't train, that you were really going
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  Speaker 2: through the motions of navigating this new feeling and this
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  Speaker 2: new body and maybe feeling some kind of way about it.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, it was so much harder than I expected it
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  Speaker 1: to be. Somehow, while I was pregnant, your body was
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  Speaker 1: doing something. I had this belly for a reason, and
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  Speaker 1: I had this baby in there, and I didn't care
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  Speaker 1: that it was a huge belly, and I didn't care
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  Speaker 1: about the comments. But after giving birth, I still had
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  Speaker 1: this bellion. It was just like empty. And I've always
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  Speaker 1: had a very firm stomach, and even when I was pregnant,
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  Speaker 1: the stomach is really really firm. But now I just
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  Speaker 1: had this like empty, sagging belly that was there for
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  Speaker 1: no reason, and it was really difficult for me mentally,
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  Speaker 1: and like you said, also just not being able to train.
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  Speaker 4: I got I went real.
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  Speaker 1: I went through a really really rough berth and I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't able to start doing anything until at least six
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  Speaker 1: weeks past. Then I was able to start sitting on
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  Speaker 1: a bike and doing a little something. But it's still
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  Speaker 1: I am still recovering. I'm not fully recovered, and we're
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  Speaker 1: closing it on nine months now and I'm still recovering.
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  Speaker 1: It's my baby steps and I'm treating this as an injury.
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  Speaker 1: But about three months after giving birth, two and a
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  Speaker 1: half three months after giving birth, I had a photo
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  Speaker 1: shoot that I was doing with Katrine, OK, And I
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  Speaker 1: was like, that was rough for me. And we had
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  Speaker 1: to go to the swimming pool and do swimming together
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, and we're shooting this on video and
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to and I caught myself being so
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: embarrassed about the way that I looked. And then I
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: was like, well, now it's time to step up and
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: actually do what I tell other people to do. Like
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: how can I preach over my girlfriends and say those
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: things to them and then I can't live by them myself.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Like I am just going to put on this planning
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: suite and I'm just going to be proud of my
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: body and I'm proud of what I've done, and there's
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: nothing I would change.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: I had this baby roll and that's what I wanted,
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: and I look the way that I look, and if
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: people need to judge, they will just have to get
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: to judge for it. And I'm proud of doing that.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: And I also admit it was really really hard for me.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: I love something you said in that, which was, I'm
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: treating this as an injury. I think that for so
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: many women, just the comparison trap, the highlight reel. You
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: feel like you're supposed to be somewhere at some kind
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: of time because you've seen someone do it this way
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: or that way. And it really is the same recovering
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: from giving birth as it is from recovering from some
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: major injuries. If not, perhaps the birth recovery could be
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: an even longer period of time.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: I mean everyone heals differently, you know exactly.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: No, that actually helped me a lot when I started
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: thinking about it like that, because I know that I
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: can recover from injuries.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: I've had two very injuries.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Before and I have recovered from them, but this was
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: so new to me, and I was like, I don't
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: know how to treat this. And then I started thinking
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: about it that way, like some people go through birth
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: and they don't get a bad injury, and just because
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: you don't see it doesn't mean that it's not there.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: And thinking about it and treating it that way, I
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: felt like I was more in control again because I
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: know that I can recover from an injury.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: So interesting, and it was also, I mean, completely different
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: subject matter. But I had a runner named Alexi Pappus
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: on the show, and she went through a really difficult
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: time with depression, and she talks about depression as though
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: it is a brain injury. And when she, as an athlete,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: thought of it in that way and understood that there
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: were steps that she could take to work on that
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: to get better from that quote unquote injury, then she
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: was in a much better place to deal with it
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: going forward.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: That's really smart. Yeah, I like that. I really like that.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: For you as an athlete, I would love to rewind
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: a little bit to when you found out you were pregnant.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Did you have any anxiety that went hand in hand
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: with out you're pregnant? Were you like ready to be pregnant?
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Like where were you with that?
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: I was really excited when I found out I was pregnant.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: It obviously I knew that it was going to change
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: my life a lot. I've always known that I wanted
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: to have a family, and it's been something that just
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: gets postponed and postpone and postponed because my body is
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: my work tool, and who knows if I'm going to
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: be able to compete again and after being pregnant and
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: giving birth and all of that. So it was something
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: that I didn't feel like I was ready for. But
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: as soon as I found out I was pregnant, it
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: just felt right. Yeah, it wasn't obviously it was mixed feelings.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I'm going to have
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: to tell my sponsors. I'm going to tell I have
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: to tell the whole world, like everyone this is following me,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: are going to see me go go through this, and
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: who knows how my pregnancy is going to be. And
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I know that I'm going to get judged throughout this
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: whole thing and knowing how to train through the whole thing,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: but I don't know. I have an incredible team around me,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: and every time there's a new challenge, I read everything
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: there is about it and I gather the knowledge that
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I can and I make a plan.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: I'm a person that likes having plans and goals, and
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: that's just what I did. And it made it.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: It made it fun actually, and I luckily, I felt
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: really good throughout my pregnancy. It was only like a
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: handful of times where I was like worried about my
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: body changing so much and not knowing my body. But
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: it was only like a handful of times where I
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: looked in the mirror and I got like a little
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: bit clastrophied.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: But oh my god, I don't know my body, like
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: whose boobs are these? What is up with this belly?
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: But as soon as I started thinking about it.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: It was really really weird.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: You're like, these are back, these are my boobs? That's
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: yes all but oh my gosh.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: So I mean, for you, you mentioned you had a
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: very healthy pregnancy. You were training throughout your pregnancy. Talk
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: to us a little bit about what that was like
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: for you and how you started to learn how to
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: modify what you had been doing previously, because although of
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: course lifting can be very great during a pregnancy, it's
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: very different than it was beforehand.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, you had to I guess I've gotten pretty good
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: at listening to my body, but I had to listen
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: to my body a little bit differently, and some of
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: the doctors were like, yeah, just we tell everyone just
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: to continue doing what you used to do, when I'm
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: like no, no, no, no, I know that.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: I cannot do what I used to do.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Yes, what I used to do is every time you
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: feel pain or you need to quit or give up,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: it's like, don't listen to your head, just push a
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: little bit harder because this is where you get better.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: But now it's like, no, no, listen to your body.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: If you feel like you're pushing too hard, then just
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: slow it down a little bit. And I actually I
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: felt really good. There was like a certain period where
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I didn't feel like squatting with too much loan because
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I felt the ligaments. And then I just listened to
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: that and I squatted to a box. And then a
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: month later or so, I felt good again squatting Like
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: I just I warmed up and actually like the ligaments
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: and everything felt really good because you get this hormone
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: release that makes everything like a little bit softer. But
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: then I also listened to that and made sure that
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I was strong throughout the whole moment so I wouldn't
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: sprain anything, and then I just I turned a lot
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: with the hardware matter and I did a lot of
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: SO two someone three work, just trying to focus on
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: trying to increase my video to max. So that was
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: something that I was like, Oh, this I can actually
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: improve on while I'm pregnant. So that's kind of exciting.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I can get better at something while I'm pregnant. It
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: was higher because there's a lot of women that reached
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: out and ask about my training that like a lot
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: of women that are pregnant and want to know what
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I did so that they can know what they did.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: But I actually think I had to take out more
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: movements than a lot of women had to because I
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: started getting coning quite early on, so that's like the
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: abdominal separation, so I had to take out gymnastics really early.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: I was like, I am going to continue doing pull
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: off strict pull ups throughout the whole thing, whole pregnancy,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: so that when the baby pops out, it's going to
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: be so easy to do pull ups because I'm going
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: to be so much lighter.
• 24:33
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  Speaker 2: five dollars or more today. So for you then, as
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  Speaker 2: you were training, were you sharing a lot of that
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  Speaker 2: journey with your followers on social media or did you
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  Speaker 2: feel at times a little hesitant to do that because
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: of the unsolicited feedback?
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: How did that go for you?
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: At time?
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Stuff A little bit has said it about it, But
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I decided to share.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: Most of the things that I did.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: I continued sharing because of the feedback that I got
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: that it helped a lot of women. And I always
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: said that you need to listen to what you can do.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: And obviously, if you've never trained before, don't start training
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: once you get pregnant or start lifting weights once you
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: get pregnant. But if you've been doing crossbit, I everything
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: that I've read, all doctors that I talked to, everyone
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: that I work with. They said, it's going to be
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: better for you and the baby to continue moving. And
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I like fully, honestly believe that Freya my daughter, she
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: was so strong when she was born, over four kilos
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: and she could hold her own head already, and like
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: she's the energy that she had and we went through
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: a really really rough berth and just watching her hardway
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: throughout the whole thing, like she was a rock star.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Oh so good to hear.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, you have your baby, and you mentioned
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: when you found out you were pregnant, like so many
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: different emotions, one of them wondering like what will my
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: life be like after I have this baby?
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: What will my athletic career look like? After I have
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: this baby?
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: So for you now, I mean we're not all that
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: far removed, but how are you feeling about that and
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: where are your hopes in moving forward?
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Well, I am hoping that I am going to compete
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: at a cross AAY games, and it's been going significantly
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: slower than what I wanted to go. And it goes
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: like you said, it's hard when you look at social
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: media and you see other people just like bouncing back
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: so quickly, and like we also said, you need to
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: treat it as an injury, and my injury was pretty severe,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: so still taking a long time to recover, and there
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: are still things that I'm not doing. I still have
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: coning and abdominal separation during a lot of movements, and
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: my public floor is still healing up. But I've gotten
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: better and stronger at a lot of other things.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: My conditioning is better than it's ever been before.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: And then the Open went pretty good, Quarterfinals went pretty good,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: and I'm just getting ready for the next stage. I
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: truly believe that I'm going to qualify for the Crossway Games. However,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I'm also not interested in competing at the Crossway Games
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: if I don't feel like I am competing for a
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: top spot. I want to be ready to push myself
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: and be allowed to go as hard as I want
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: to go. It's not fun to compete and be like, okay,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: but you need to listen to this and watch over that.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I want to make sure that I'm fully recovered. I'm
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: being really smart with everything that I'm doing now, and
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I'm going to continue.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: To do so.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: And that's also one of the things that I make
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: sure that I'm clear on when it comes to my
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: social media, because it's important for us to recover properly
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: from giving birth, not pushing it and then have it
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: something that's over your head for the rest of your life.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: And I want to make sure that I heal and
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: recover properly. And obviously I got some negative comments of
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: the things that I was doing when I was training,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: But the funny thing is most of those negative comments
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: were from male They were saying that I shouldn't be
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: doing what I was doing, that I was gonna hurt
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: my baby, and honestly, that's probably the artist thing to hear,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: because you would never do anything that would potentially hurt
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: the baby that you're growing. But women were super happy,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: and the feedback I was getting from other women just
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: like yes, that they had gone through their pregnancy done
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: the same thing and felt so much better. My body
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: and my mind felt so much better being able to
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: do all of that. And then it was really interesting
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: after giving birth and when I started training again, even
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: though it was it took me a long ass time,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: and I was doing things really smart with my training, getting.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: All the right help.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: The only negative feedback I got was from women that
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: felt like I was starting to early and that I
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: was maybe saying that you have to get into shape
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: so quickly after giving birth. I never said that, And honestly,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: it's never been about losing the belly that I have.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I know that it's a lot of skin and my
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: tissues are just recovering, and it's never been about losing weight.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: It's been about becoming me again and the feeling I
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: get when I get to exercise, the endorphins and the
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: strength that I get when I get to lift weights
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: and train.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: It's such a big.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Part of who I am, and that was what was
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: so important to me to get back to training.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: It's interesting for me to hear you talk about the
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: struggles that you are going through, many of them happening
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: offline when it comes to your healing journey. The things
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: that maybe aren't the things that people are quick to
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: have an opinion on that they're like, oh, well, this
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: is the low hanging fruit. So I see that she's
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: doing this kettlebell swing and it's been not enough time
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: by my standards, even though the doctors say it's fine.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: So I'm going to chime in here.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think so often what we hear from
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: people is that if someone's going to come into your
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: space and say something negative oftentime, then that reflects on
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: what they may be going through in their life and
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: not necessarily what you are putting out into the world.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, exactly, And I've I've learned to push those
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: things away and hoping that it's going to have a positive,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: positive influence on other people instead.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: And I do think so.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: And like you said, sometimes it's just people need to
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: get their opinion or their outlet out every once in
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: a while, and then that's fine.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: And I love what you said before about parts of
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: your training are really succeeding right now, whereas like some
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: of the other stuff might not be up to speed
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: up to where it was. So obviously you've adopted this
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: growth mindset when it comes to what you're capable of.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: For someone who may not be as good as you
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: are at flipping that script and finding the positives when
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: things just feel like they're not going their way, what
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: kind of advice do you have for them?
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it's important to realize that everything just
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: takes time to heal, and sometimes when you're not able
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: to do one thing, it actually gives you an opportunity
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: to work on something different and become so much better
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: at that part. I just remember when I hurt my back,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: my upper body got so strong, Like when I hurt
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: my knee, my upper body continue getting stronger and strong,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: and my strict gymnastics and my gymnastics portion became such
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: a big part of what I was good at, and
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I learned, I learned how to adapt with it, and
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: then being able to continue doing biking, I realized that
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I was still maintaining a lot of the strength that
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I had in my life. It was still going to
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: be there when I got to start training again.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: So I think.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: That's one of the biggest issues I see with people
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: when they have an injury. They don't continue training and
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: they get almost like a little bit depressed about it.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: And I believe.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Me, I understand getting a little bit depressed over your injuries,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: because it can be so hard to stay motivated when
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: something's hurting and you want to go train, and it's
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: irritating watching other people do things that you want to
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: be doing. But as long as you then write down
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: some of the things that you can do and make
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: like a structure of it, you can make a really
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: really difficult training session with strict upper body only you
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: can make a really difficult training session with pushups, like
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: anything that you can work with, you're going to be
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: able to develop a different type of strength and then
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: that specific muscle group, and then once you're able to
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: start training again, the strength is going to be there.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: So I tried to look at it as opportunities.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: What do you do aside from training to take care
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: of you, because I am sure that taking care of
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: your little one at times can feel a little bit
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: taxing on you.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, my me time is training. That's where my mind
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: gets like an outlet when I get to go hard
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  Speaker 1: and a work out.
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  Speaker 4: That's why I said, like.
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  Speaker 1: Even though the only thing I could do in the
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: beginning was spiking, you have no idea how good that
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: biking felt. And I continue biking and did almost biking
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  Speaker 1: only for over a month, and it was incredible.
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  Speaker 4: Every single time.
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  Speaker 1: I would just put on a good audiobook or good
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  Speaker 1: playlist or whatever that is, not think about any of
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: the other issues that I might had, and just get
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: to follow my program and go hard for that session.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: And I think that's where, even though it's taxing, that's
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: where I get my mental break and then my physical break.
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  Speaker 1: I get when I'm playing with Freya or relaxing with Freya. Obviously,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: life has changed a lot. It used to be wake
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: up around eight o'clock, usley in the morning, and then
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: go train, come home, eat, take a nap, train again,
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  Speaker 1: come home, maybe nap again or watch TV, take it easy,
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  Speaker 1: and then go to.
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  Speaker 4: Sleep when I wanted to go to sleep.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Now we wake up at six or six point thirty
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  Speaker 1: if it's a good day, and play with my daughter
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: and take care of her, and then we go to
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: the gym and I train while she nests, and we
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: come home and it's the same thing. Feed her, play
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: with her, stimulate her, take her somewhere, do something with her.
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  Speaker 1: Then I go and train again. At least she's a
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: great sleeper, so I get to train twice a day still,
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  Speaker 1: But at the end of the day I am exhausted
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: and we go to bed between nine and ten o'clock,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: which is crazy to me because I am an evening person.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I like my evenings. But you work with
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: what you got.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: You work with what you got.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: So now you know, a handful of months in to motherhood,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: when you reflect on all of the advice that has
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: been extended to you over this time, what would you
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: say has been some of the best.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know some of the best ones is I
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: guess listening to your instinct because I was worried that
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have that, and I was like, I need
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: to know what to do. I haven't had any smaller siblings.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: I didn't really know how to hold a baby. I
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: had never I had never changed the diaper until I
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: changed her diaper. So there were a lot, a lot
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: a first for me and listening to your instinct and
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: relax like the first I'm not gonna lie to you.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: The first week was a really, really, really rough week
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: for me because I was so worried about her. I
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: was so worried if she was breathing when she was asleep.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: So I honestly I didn't sleep for five days after
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: giving birth. I just did not sleep. So just coming
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: down and obviously, take care of your baby. But your
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: baby is gonna be okay, especially if you have if
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: you have everything under control, and you have I even
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: had like a snooze monitor on her, so I could
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: see her breathing on my phone, but yet I was like,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, she's making a sound, She's Okay, if
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: the baby starts crying because she's hungry, it's fine. If
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: she doesn't get to eat for ten fifteen minutes, like
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: she's gonna survive. So I was like being overly stressed
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: over things over for no reason.
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  Speaker 4: That was I had to learn that the hard way.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of my girlfriends who are
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: mothers now that calmness is probably one of the biggest takeaways.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: It's that like, things are gonna feel as though they
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: are going wrong all the time, and if you get
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: wrapped up and worked up in that, then that's going
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: to serve no one. So especially you know, with the
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: friends that I've had two three kids, like, just their
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: demeanor is something that I envy and something that I
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: take lessons from because I'm like, you need to chill.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: Yes, exactly exactly. It's not gonna be good for anyone.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: It's not gonna be good for your husband, and it's
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: not gonna be good for.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Your baby if you're constantly stressed out over over stuff
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: that's going on.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: So, is there any other tip that you would give
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: to a new mom that you wish that someone told
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: you before you had your baby?
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Expected just to be a really big chance, and I
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: know that you're never going to be one hundred percent
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: ready for that. And people say that things are going
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: to change, but it's going to change even more than
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: you expect. So just kind of knowing that, but still
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: knowing that the world is still out there and the
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: world is still the same. I think that's important to
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: think about as well, because you get stuck in this
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: little bubble of yours where all you're doing is trying
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: to sleep and feed and recover and getting used to
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: the insane responsibility of a new human being that you
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: love more than anything so that you're going to protect
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: it with all you've got, and you get stuck thinking
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: that this is just how your rest of your life
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: is going to be, or at least that happened to me.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: So going outside as soon as you feel like you
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: have the energy to go for walks outside, see friends,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: see family, I think is one of the most important
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: things to do, so that you see that.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: The world is still out there and the normal world
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: is still out there.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: The normal world is still out there.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: When you think about your values and the things that
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: are really important to you, what is one of them
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: that you're looking forward to passing along to your daughter.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: Family, I think is the most important.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Just just the bond that you create with family. And
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping that I'm going to be able to create
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: that kind of bond with her, the same as I
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: have with my parents and my brothers. We're really really close,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: and I think that's the most important thing in the
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: world to me.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: You have an opportunity to offer a piece of advice
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: to the Annie that was going through that tough time
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: right after having her baby. She couldn't she was feeling
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: a little unsure, She didn't know what to do with
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: this stomach which was no longer firm because the baby
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: was in the world. You have an opportunity now to
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: give her.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: A piece of advice. What do you tell her.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: That everything's going to be okay, Just that everything is
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: going to be fine. That's all I needed to hear
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: that time.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: That I was going to become myself again, like time
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: heals all wounds.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: And it's so true, just knowing that I would become
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: myself again, because I felt like that might never happen.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Annie, How do the hurdlers follow along with you? How
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: do they stay in the loop with you? Give me
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: all of the details Instagram that kind of stuff.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Well, my Instagram Annie Thor's Letter, that's where I share
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: pretty much everything of my life, or a lot most
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: of the things from my life, and then some more
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: things are mother of a daughter. That's where I share
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more of me and Freya, or
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: my recovery, maybe some of the things that not everyone
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: wants to see that are following on my own social media.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: And then I got Facebook Anni Thorist that are as
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: well beautiful.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: I'm over at Emily's body and at Hurdle Podcast another
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: Hurdle conquered. Catch you guys next time.