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Marcus Stewart is not to be trusted. · The Slippery Slope

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Well, the more I listen to the arguments both to both for and
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against the voice and what we have here in Australia, the more
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I realize how divisive it is. This whole campaign, I think, is
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just the purpose of it is to divide Australians, to make it
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clear from the very start. I've said this before, but just
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so you know, I will not be voting for the Voice.
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I will not be voting yes for the Voice.
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I will be voting no. Definite no.
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I do not agree with this rhetoric about a treaty.
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I seriously, I don't think the people that sprout off these
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ideals about treaty, We need treaty.
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I don't think they really understand what a treaty is.
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I don't think they have a proper education of treaty and the
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people that do. The scary thing is the people
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that do understand what treaty is and they're fighting for it.
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They're the real scary ones. People like Marcus Stewart, the
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quote UN quote Indigenous man, I say quite UN quote because yeah,
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he's, he's got Indigenous heritage.
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He's one of his great, great grandfathers.
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So it's it's it's long back, long way back.
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If you look at great grandparents, you're looking at,
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well, you would have 16, I believe 16 great great
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grandparents, you know, grandfather, grandmother,
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grandfather. There'd be 16 of them if you if
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you went back in your line. So one out of 16 of his great,
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great grandparents was indigenous for sure one and he
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has chosen, if you listen to him talk, he's a very educated man.
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He's and he's used the system he's Indigenous heritage to make
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sure he gets a good education. But if you listen to him talk
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you would think if you didn't if you didn't see his face you'd be
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sitting there going where OK, this fellow has he plays the
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victim card very well. He's obviously gone through some
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hard times being an indigenous person because that's all he
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claims. He seems to claim only this
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indigenous heritage and that's it.
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But like I said, when 11 of your grandfathers, one of your
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ancestors out of 16 is Aboriginal, is an Indigenous
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Australian, does that really make you, does that really make
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you Indigenous, that makes you someone with Indigenous
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heritage? And can you really claim this
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victimhood of, you know, what your people have gone through?
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If you read through, I'm going to put up the the links so you
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can read through the the actual history, which seems like what
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is the history of his great, great grandfather.
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And it seems like he was very much supported by the community
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and he used the system like his great, great grandsons.
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But you know he he wasn't some traditional.
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He wasn't stuck in the the traditions, the culture, the
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law, LORE of his, of his indigenous heritage.
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He embraced the community that was surrounding him, and he
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worked within that community, worked within the system that
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was, and he worked within within it for the betterment,
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betterment and the benefit of his family, of his wife and his
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children to better them. And yet you have his great,
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great grandson, one of his great, great grandsons playing
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the victim. And I think I'm going to share
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this video with you, I think saying some pretty hateful
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rhetoric about someone who I think is it's actually an
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indigenous person who's actually lived and worked within
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Indigenous communities. And yet you hear the rhetoric,
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the the hate and the the misinformation, the the absolute
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lies coming out of his mouth to be honest.
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And you, you've got to wonder, well, I think he he just
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personally, I think he's just living in a delusion.
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He's a narcissist living in delusion and he's trying to sell
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that delusion to you and I as the wholesale truth.
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Now let's have listened to this, what he says about Senator
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Price. And simply ask our lawmakers in
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our Parliament and our policymakers in our executive
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government to listen to the advice provided.
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By those that are impacted most. You are more forcefully taking
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on these disparate arguments that are obviously now this
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interview was on the ABC. You know the the ABC that we
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all, you and I, the taxpayer, all pay for.
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And yet they are wholly, solely, firmly in the Yes camp.
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You know, gone are the days where they would just report on
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news. No, no, they've they've taken on
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the political side that picked the the political agenda
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obviously with I said. Put forth by the no campaign,
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Marcus Stewart, I don't want you to engage in sort of self
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analysis, but looking at the yes side, why is the question?
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Is it because it's causing you higher levels of angst and
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frustration? I think.
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It's doing serious damage to our community.
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Our kids are watching. We can't forget that Grid,
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Aboriginal and Torture on. The kids are watching this
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debate and asking why people are perpetrating or pushing out
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racist rhetorics while why they're punching down towards
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them. What have they done wrong to
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simply want to improve the lives of their communities, their
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families that are impacted most? And we have a far right
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politician in Senator Knappanjipa Price.
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Out there spreading lies, spreading mist and
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disinformation. I don't think I've come across
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anyone that hates Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander or seems
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to hate Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people so much.
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What have we done wrong in this debate to simply ask for a
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better chance at life for our most vulnerable?
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That's what we're seeking here. So it calls her hateful.
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And do you have a specific reference in mind from OH sorry
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before we go on just it's something you learn when you're
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not just but you know in placing and you do interview techniques
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and you're learning about interviewing and how to how to
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talk to people and whatever. So you learn about leading
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questions where and listen to this for it's a leading question
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just. Senator Numbergimper Price.
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Marcus Stewart. I know that most recently she
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has delivered some quotes in relation to welcome to country
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ceremonies in this country. I think she's suggested there's
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no problem acknowledging our history, but she says rolling
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out these performances before every sporting event in public
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gathering is definitely divisive.
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She told NOW what is wrong with what she said.
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There's nothing wrong with what she said.
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She's saying, Yep, welcome to country.
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It's great we have that recognition, but we don't need
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to have it at the start of every every sporting event, every
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little community, everything that we see.
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We have the welcome to country first.
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That's all she's saying. We don't need it at everything.
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We don't. It it brings division.
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You know, I'll keep going on, but these two, they've decided
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not. That makes her, apparently, that
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makes her racist or something. She doesn't know what she's
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talking about. How dare she have an opinion?
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How dare she have an opinion that's contrary to their
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beliefs. The, you know the the 100%
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Aboriginal man here talking to the the other power of.
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The Australian newspaper is Is that what you're referring to?
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Well, it's interesting the politics of flipping things and
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trying to make them divisive. A ceremony that upholds, that
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respects, that celebrates the longest or the the oldest living
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culture on this planet. A ceremony of welcome to country
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something that was practiced on these lands for thousands of
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years is now according to the far Now just before we go on
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this ceremony, the welcome to country now he this, this chap
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here the Aboriginal man in front of you Marcus Stewart.
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He's great great grandfather. Like I said one of 16 would be
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out of great grandparents, great great grandparents, Aboriginal.
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You read his history. He doesn't seem it doesn't seem
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like he's great great grandfather.
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Last name was Franklin I believe.
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We'll go through a bit of his history.
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Practiced any of these things. Didn't practice smoking
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ceremonies. Didn't practice.
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Welcome to country. Actually don't.
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I don't think he even grew up. He'd even lived in on his actual
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indigenous heritage land. Lived in Yay but made something
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for himself of himself in that area but didn't practice these
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traditional law, traditional cultures, culture.
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All right, politicians, Senator Knappengebra Price as divisive?
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How is it divisive? It's a it's a ceremony that
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brings us together. It's a practice.
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That's the thing it does. It's not a ceremony that brings
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brings us together. We don't have to have it at
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every, every event that we have. That has stood for thousands of
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years. That's something we all
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celebrate and that we all love to be involved in.
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I know you don't want to contemplate a possible defeat at
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referendum Marcus, but you're looking at that quote that we're
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discussing here today. Do you think wittingly or
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unwittingly, those sorts of ceremonies might go on the
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bonfire of, you know, remains that come from a failed
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referendum, that there would be fewer of them now than post
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referendum if it's unsuccessful? Greg I think Australians are
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waking up to the lies, the misinformation, the hate
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messaging, the fear stocking of the No campaign and a cottoning
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on that. There's a lot at stake now that
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they're trying to they're trying to sink what a simple ask is for
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a constitutionally in trying voice, a voice through
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recognition to improve the lives of Aboriginal entire strain on
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the people to simply it. It's not just a simple, it's not
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as simple as what they're making out and I I have seriously asked
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that the yes will improve the lives of Indigenous Australians
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and but we'll go through that later on as well.
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Ask our lawmakers and policymakers to listen to those
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who are disproportionately impact most.
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So Australians are waking up and seeing the politics that have
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been when he when he says listen to those who who are
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disproportionately impacted the most, which I I do support that.
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However, OK if a politician came to me I I would look at it and
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say listen I'm not me personally.
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I'm not disproportionately impacted because well quite
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frankly because my grandparents my great grandparents put us on
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a different path. We they put out my their
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children on a different path. For starters, they they embraced
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well. They embraced Christianity,
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Christianity. They realized that.
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They realized that that the Christian faith that the the
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future was held in the in the word of God.
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They realized that that Jesus was the the way, the truth in
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the life. They realized that the
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witchcraft. And I I know for sure because
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I've heard it first hand the how our families, different family
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family members, direct ancestors were heavily involved were
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involved in witchcraft especially the ones that came
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from Venuatu from the islands. Because my my family's mixture
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of celcy Islander, they're bored over slaves and indigenous.
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So they're heavily involved in witchcraft and they realized
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that their life was not, should not be linked with the
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witchcraft. And they realized that faith in
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the in the Lord Jesus Christ, that was the way.
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So they sit their family on a different path.
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And they also realized that you can't be playing the victim, OK,
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And that there was a system here.
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There was something in place like my uncle used to say his
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his grandfathers were bought. Two of his grandfathers were
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bought out of Venuatu as slaves, but because they were bought
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over from Vanuatu, they took them the English.
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It wouldn't have been good for them.
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But because they were bought over as slaves, he is now living
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here or was. He's passed away now, but he was
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living here in an Acon house. He wasn't living in a grass Hut.
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He wasn't walking around with a grass skirt and no shirt.
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He wasn't struggling to grow food.
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You know, he just click on the switch and there was light he
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had. He he had a plentiful future.
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He was living in a country that was blessed.
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And he had been blessed because of the hardships of his parents,
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of his great, of his grandparents.
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You know you you can't be going around playing the victim
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because of what your grandparents went through and
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but if you listen to chaps like this, Marcus Stewart, the 100%
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indigenous person, you would think that no, no, once your
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grandfather, your great grandfather, your great, great
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grandfather was a victim, well then obviously you inherit that
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victimhood and you should just embrace that victimhood for the
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rest of your life and claim it. That's part of your cultural
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heritage, apparently. Being played and they're not
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interested in the politics. We are about nation building.
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What does the future look like together?
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Not a future apart. And we know the No campaign are
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trying to wedge this nation apart.
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So Marcus Stewart's accusing just Enterprise, Senator just
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Enterprise of hating the Aboriginal people, hating her
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own people, spreading lies, misinformation, disinformation.
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He himself not telling the whole truth.
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But, and then he's accusing Just Enterprise of hating, of hating
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her own people, purely because it seems, because she doesn't
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agree with what he's saying. And because she doesn't want to
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play the victim. And because she is telling the
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indigenous people, she's telling the people in her community,
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hey, don't play the victim. We don't have to.
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We don't have to have this welcome to country at every
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single event that comes along. It's a it's a nice thing to
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happen at maybe at major events, at major political ceremonies,
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maybe we don't have to have it all the time.
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It causes division and it does. It does cause division.
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In the whole of Australia, we see this one group being
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constantly recognized all the time.
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We don't need to have it and we don't have to be the victims.
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That's, that's the message she's trying to say.
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You don't have to be the victims.
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You don't have to rely on government.
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There are things out there already in place that can help
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you, that will help indigenous people get a leg up, that will
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help you in the society. You don't have to be and you are
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not the victim as what Marcus Stewart wants us, wants
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Indigenous Australians to play at, even though he himself is
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not a victim, even though he's great, great grandfather.
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I think his name was John Franklin.
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He obviously didn't see himself as a victim.
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Like I said, I'll put up the link for you can read a bit
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about his, his history. He didn't dress up in
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traditional, in traditional cultural, in traditional
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Aboriginal outfits, paint his face like what Marcus Stewart
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does when he goes to ceremony. He didn't put on, you know, he
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wasn't about playing the, playing the, the race card.
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He was about helping his family, working hard.
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He became one of the few indigenous people who you know
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was a a landowner, was a business owner, was trying to
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work hard to help better himself, his wife, his family
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and he's and make a better future for himself and his
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family. It wasn't about being the
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victim. Senator Price is not about being
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the victim. And that's the message she's
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trying to convey to the indigenous people in this land.
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Don't be the victim, don't play the victim.
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You don't have to be the victim. But bit more about what?
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About what Marcus Marcus Stewart is really about.
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So like I said, he's the Co chair of the First People's
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Assembly of Victoria. So to read about, I'll bring it
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up here so everyone can follow along.
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Reading about what? What that's all about.
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It actually that that's all about the Assembly will push for
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better representation and political power for First
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Peoples. This is in Victoria.
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The ideas we're discussing include having a member.
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This is in the writing. This is what Marcus Stewart has
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written himself. This is his writing.
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The ideas we're discussing include having a number number
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of seats in the Victorian Parliament that members of the
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Aboriginal and Torres Strait all in the community, vote for, and
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establishing a permanent representative body with
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meaningful decision making powers.
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A black parliament of sorts. Black BLAK.
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Like I said, this is his writing so and when he says black he
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means black as if as in as in him Black.
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You know, we have to paint your face and put on other clothing
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for people and then tell them that you're aboriginal because
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that's what you look like. And obviously if you don't do
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those things, no one's going to have a clue that you have any
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indigenous heritage at all going on.
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The assembly has negotiated for the government to give up some
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of its power by agreeing to establish an independent treaty
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authority that sits outside of the usual government
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bureaucracy. Now remember, Marcus just told
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us that, you know. That the the no campaign is out
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or he man, the ABC reporter. That the no campaign is siding,
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you know, trying to stir up all this fear.
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You know that this will lead to a treaty and it's going to you
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know what's what's the treaty going to do?
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Well, according to what they want, what Marcus is a part of
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for the Victorian treaty trying to set Victorian A treaty.
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The assembly has negotiated the government for the government to
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give up some of its power. This is what people are saying.
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They don't want a treaty to be put in place with it takes power
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away from the government. If you want to use this as an
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example, what's what they're trying to push through in
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Victoria, they want to push this through for the federal
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government, take away some of its power.
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It's all about power and it's all about money.
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This independent umpire will be grounded in our culture, law LO
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re and law law, and will facilitate negotiations and help
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resolve any disputes that arise. The journey to treaty mustn't be
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constrained by colonial concepts, mustn't be because you
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know, and we need an independent umpire that our people can have
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confidence in our people. That's Marcus talking his people
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because he's 100% indigenous. That's why the agreement we've
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secured is to establish a treaty authority that is completely
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independent from government. It won't report to a minister
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and its funding will be insulated from the usual
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political cycles. Want to tell you it's all about
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power and it's all about money. Two things negotiated for the
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government to give up some of its power.
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Give up some of its power. And when it comes to the money,
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it won't report to a minister and its funding will be
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insulated from the usual political cycles.
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It's for their own selfish gain. And yet they they would go and
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tell you this is all about what he's saying.
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This is all about nation building.
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We're working together. It's nation building.
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What a load of rubbish. It's all about you trying to get
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as much money and as much power as you possibly can.
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So like I said, we can use this as a guideline to how what a
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treaty would possibly look like if they if they try to go any
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further after the voice in independence, where am I now?
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This is about stepping outside the colonial system.
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We've said the government if you're serious about treaty,
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you'll do it our way. And to their credit, this is in
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Victoria. That's what they're doing.
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This is what decolonization, this is decolonization in
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action. Decolonization.
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Are you for real? Like I said, Marcus Stewart, the
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100% Aboriginal man, talks about Senator Jacinta Price spreading
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disinformation, misinformation, showing hate towards her own
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people. And you know, he would have you
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believe that the Yes campaign, purely innocent.
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It's just going to help build our nation.
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It's just going to help bring people together.
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It's just going to help the indigenous people of this
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nation, give them a step up, help them to have a voice, have
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a say. What it's really about the the
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person who really has hatred for the indigenous people here is
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Marcus Stewart, because he wants them to continually.
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He wants us to continually be the victim, continually play the
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victim. His great, great grandfather,
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John Franklin, he didn't play the victim.
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He wasn't the victim. You read his history.
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He didn't. Not.
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Not that he didn't deny his Aboriginal Aboriginality or
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anything like that, but he wasn't a victim about it.
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He used the system to help himself, to help his family up,
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to become a landowner, a business owner, to help give his
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family a good future. That that's what that's what you
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do. Hard times come along, but you
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work. You work hard.
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You don't sit there and wallow and say, well, with me, I'm a
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victim. Someone has to give me a
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handout. That's not what you do.
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That's what he wants people to do.
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Just Enterprise says no, no, don't play the victim.
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Let's work hard. Let's build our nation together
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as one nation, not as all these separate nations, but the left
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side of politics sends a Thorpe, this fellow, Marcus Stewart, the
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100% Indigenous person, They want you to believe that we're
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all separated and that we need the voice.
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And then from the voice we need to have a treaty.
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And if you go off, like I said, if you go off how they've, how
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they've worded everything for, for this proposal, for the
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Victorian Treaty, it will mean that the government, they will
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insist that the government will give up power and that will
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insist on a lot of money. And that will insist on just a
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few people from Indigenous communities, Indigenous
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communities where they live in the inner city of Melbourne or
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inner city inner suburbs of Sydney and have nothing to do
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with traditional culture, traditional law.
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You know, the great, great, great grandfather may have been
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Aboriginal. It's all a bit dicey, but we
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claim it anyway. So you have to believe us.
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And so we will be the representatives.
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We will have access to the money, we will have access to
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the power. But hey, that's not it's not
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about money. It's not about Paris.
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It's not going to take away anything from the constitution.
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We don't want anything but love and peace and for everyone to be
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to rise up together. Nothing but love for the
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indigenous people. That's what we're all about.
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Don't believe the lies of Marcus Stewart.
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It's not just into Price that has the hatred for the
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indigenous people. It is Marcus Stewart, Mark
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Stewart and is spreading the disinformation and
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misinformation. He's not telling you all the
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truth. He's he is the one that wants to
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hold indigenous people down and make them play the victim
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because it served his purpose. It served him well to go out and
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play the victim card. It served him.
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It's helping him get through in life and that's all he really
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cares about. And this treaty proposal the
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voice very dangerous. The treaty.
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If it goes on to get to try and you know, push for a treaty, the
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treaty is even more dangerous. Don't be scammed by these clowns
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like Marcus Stewart, the indigenous man.
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That's my opinion. Thanks for listening to the
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slippery slope. This is the slippery slope.
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This is the start of it. Going, voting for the voice.
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Next thing is we'll be pushing for the treaty.
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Next thing is we'll be sitting there going, how the heck did we
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get here? Us.
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Because from the get go people were listening to liars like
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Marcus Stewart.