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ITB: Any Reason For Optimism For Better Eagles Health Vs. Cowboys? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Inside the birds is back what's going on everybody it's
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: jeff mosher it's adam caplan the eagles are playing on
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: monday night week seven all right so that means you
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: get an extra day uh during the week and you
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: don't really start practice of course until thursday so let
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: me set the scene for you adam caplan right you're
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: either the eagles or you're a diehard eagles fan and
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: here's the situation your team's lost four in a row
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: you are spiraling downward however You're looking for something to
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: be positive about, right? You got your division rivals who
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: are struggling and way healthier, all right? You get an
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: extra day to prepare and to lick your wounds, all right?
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: You are entering what we could say is the softer
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  Speaker 1: part of the schedule, three straight division games, everybody struggling,
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  Speaker 1: even the Giants record as a facade. All you're looking
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: for on that Thursday, that first practice is is a
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  Speaker 1: glimmer of hope that the injury report gives you some
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: kind of feeling that, hey, maybe things are going to
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: start to turn around just from a health standpoint. And bam,
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  Speaker 1: you get hit between the eyes. Now, we never make
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  Speaker 1: that much of the first injury report. There are some
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  Speaker 1: positives we'll talk about as we get into this thing.
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  Speaker 1: But when you look at it overall, I'm sure fans
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  Speaker 1: will be very exasperated by some of the names that
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  Speaker 1: they're seeing back on the injury report and not at practice.
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  Speaker 2: Not only are some of these guys still in the
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  Speaker 2: injury report, now they have new injuries. I caught that
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  Speaker 2: with Landon Dickerson with pectoral. That was added. That's not
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  Speaker 2: good for this week. They were hoping to have him
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  Speaker 2: back this week. We'll see what happens. It's not great.
• 1:47
  Speaker 2: We've got to get into the transactions. Pretty interesting what
• 1:51
  Speaker 2: they did on Thursday. One, shaking my head, we have
• 1:56
  Speaker 2: some pretty interesting information on Evan Neal. We'll get to
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  Speaker 2: that later. But But overall, there are some positives. Some
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  Speaker 2: injuries were removed from some guys who had two injuries.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll get into that and explain what that means
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  Speaker 2: and what we hear and what we know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't want to overreact. It's just
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  Speaker 1: the first injury report. But the reality is they did
• 2:17
  Speaker 1: have an extra day, and you were trying to hope
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  Speaker 1: to see that there were no pop-ups. But last week,
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  Speaker 1: for example, Devontae Smith had the pop-up toe to go
• 2:25
  Speaker 1: along with the hamstring, but he wound up playing. And
• 2:28
  Speaker 1: then he played and had a good game. And obviously
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  Speaker 1: his reps were limited. But then here we go. First
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  Speaker 1: injury report for week seven. He's back on. No toe,
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  Speaker 1: but he did not practice Thursday because of a hamstring.
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  Speaker 1: And then you see Dallas Goddard doesn't practice because of
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  Speaker 1: a knee injury. And Dontavian Wicks doesn't practice with an ankle.
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: Remember it was hamstring and now it's ankle. And, man, Adam,
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  Speaker 1: that's three major pass weapons that on your first– Practice
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  Speaker 1: you have some skepticism about right there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, keep Darius Cooper, if you have him in fantasy.
• 3:00
  Speaker 2: Do not cut him for any reason.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Because he's what we call a receiver handcuff. He's the
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  Speaker 2: first guy because he plays outside and can play inside.
• 3:08
  Speaker 2: With Lemmon, he really can't play outside. So they just
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  Speaker 2: don't have the depth. The staff doesn't like to play
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  Speaker 2: Hollywood Brown for whatever reason. They just don't see it. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Though he had a full practice for what it's worth
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  Speaker 2: on Thursday. So understand something with Wicks. He got hurt
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  Speaker 2: in the last game. He left, came back. Give the
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  Speaker 2: guy credit. He turned his ankle. He could see her clearly.
• 3:26
  Speaker 2: He caught the ball, went down. Then he got up,
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  Speaker 2: and he's like, oh. So that's not good. And Devontae
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  Speaker 2: Smith has had this hamstring injury for three months. He's
• 3:37
  Speaker 2: had it since the first week of August.
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  Speaker 1: Just won't go away.
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  Speaker 2: That's where we're at here with this situation. It's not good.
• 3:46
  Speaker 2: Britton Covey, by the way, you probably saw him get
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  Speaker 2: his shoulder looked at in the sideline. He's their punt
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  Speaker 2: kickoff returner. He'll play. He was able to get his
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  Speaker 2: reps in. But the big ones are Dallas Goddard. Now,
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  Speaker 2: what we don't know is the same knee, the same
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  Speaker 2: MCL sprain. We don't know that.
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  Speaker 1: He was added.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't practice Thursday. A couple guys, Drew Kendall, he
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  Speaker 2: didn't take all the reps at center. That's not great
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  Speaker 2: with the knee. He warmed up, thumbs down. It clearly
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  Speaker 2: was not right. He couldn't play. He was just available
• 4:19
  Speaker 2: in an emergency situation. If he had to play, he
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  Speaker 2: could have done it, but he wasn't going to play.
• 4:24
  Speaker 2: He wasn't ready. So as you said, with extended time,
• 4:26
  Speaker 2: you're hoping that he would take all the reps. He didn't.
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  Speaker 2: But again, it's only one day. They have two days
• 4:30
  Speaker 2: of practice Friday and Saturdays at light one. A Sunday walkthrough.
• 4:35
  Speaker 2: A Sunday walkthrough. You wonder if they'll have it at
• 4:36
  Speaker 2: the stadium. I know they've done that before because they're
• 4:40
  Speaker 2: going to play at home Monday night. So the offensive
• 4:42
  Speaker 2: injuries that we'll be watching, we'll get to Saquon Barkley
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  Speaker 2: in a minute, is Devontae Smith. still with a hamstring
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  Speaker 2: issue that he's had now going on three months. Wicks
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  Speaker 2: with the ankle, you saw it in the game. Goddard
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  Speaker 2: back on it with the knee and Drew Kendall. That's
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  Speaker 2: me when you really look at it. It's a shame
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  Speaker 2: because you've got this quarterback who's just trying to get right.
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  Speaker 2: They had a pretty good target group last week. The
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  Speaker 2: pass protection wasn't very good. And here we are. you know, you, you,
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  Speaker 2: they don't know who they're going to have yet. And now,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, Barkley did work limited, but that was expected.
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  Speaker 2: As I understand it, that they're going to ramp them up.
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  Speaker 2: That's the goal. The worst thing you could do is right.
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  Speaker 2: This guy's been out a bit. He has hamstring strain. No,
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  Speaker 2: you're you're, he takes all the reps and then he
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  Speaker 2: has a setback. Like you forget it. And even a
• 5:39
  Speaker 2: small setback, he's not playing the hamstring strain. He's a
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  Speaker 2: skill position player. Do the math. They don't play when
• 5:43
  Speaker 2: they have, they have setbacks. So let's see how he does.
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  Speaker 2: Things are positive. Let's hope he goes full Friday and Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: And if he's limited Friday, he's got to be full
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  Speaker 2: on Saturday. Got to be. Need to have that happen
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  Speaker 2: for him to play. Anyway, that's the offense.
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  Speaker 1: Let's also not dismiss some of the offensive line issue
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  Speaker 1: right now because, again, you only get three practices a week.
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  Speaker 1: Three main practices, right? So Willie Lampkin missed practice Thursday
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  Speaker 1: with an illness. which is in itself not a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: But remember, he's playing left guard. And right now, Landon
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  Speaker 1: Dickerson and Drew Kendall were also limited. So when I
• 6:20
  Speaker 1: see limited, we don't know, but we usually assume guys
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  Speaker 1: did like certain things, but not obviously any seven on
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  Speaker 1: sevens or 11 on 11s or any kind of like
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  Speaker 1: major practice. So I have to think that at left
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  Speaker 1: guard on Thursday, the first day of practice was probably
• 6:34
  Speaker 1: Micah Morris at this point with Jake majors back at center,
• 6:37
  Speaker 1: which is not what you want when you're trying to
• 6:39
  Speaker 1: get ready to turn your season around against the Dallas Cowboys.
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: Hopefully Willie Lampkin is fine. It's a minor thing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Clubs are not, they're not required to see what the
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: illness is. Right. Whether it's a, whether he's sick, Or
• 6:54
  Speaker 2: it's something else we just don't know. But 90% of
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: the time, these guys play when they have an illness.
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  Speaker 2: So let's hope that that's the case here. I mean,
• 7:03
  Speaker 2: they're in a tough way. And we'll get to the
• 7:05
  Speaker 2: transactions in a minute. But just guys who have been
• 7:08
  Speaker 2: on the practice squad a little bit. John Ojukwu, I'm
• 7:10
  Speaker 2: still surprised. If not, sign him off the practice squad.
• 7:14
  Speaker 2: I just don't understand it. He should be permanently on
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  Speaker 2: the 53 the rest of the season. He really should.
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  Speaker 1: It's felt like they are playing with fire at offensive
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  Speaker 1: tackle for sure. Obviously, they have Fred now who's healthy
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  Speaker 1: and backing up. But with the injuries that they've had,
• 7:31
  Speaker 1: where they've had to play guys in different spots, you're right.
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  Speaker 1: Just their overall depth issue at that position makes you
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  Speaker 1: wonder why they haven't been able to do that and
• 7:39
  Speaker 1: they've gotten away with it. So far on defense, the
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: guys who didn't practice were pretty much, you know, they've
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: been hurting. People know about that. Michael Carter with the
• 7:48
  Speaker 1: abdomen and Nolan Smith had the concussion. So we'll see
• 7:53
  Speaker 1: you get an extra day, but that doesn't always mean
• 7:56
  Speaker 1: you're going to be ready to go just because it's
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  Speaker 1: Monday night. So we'll have to see how that progresses
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: through the week. The first thing we have to see
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  Speaker 1: is him get out on the field, which is part
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  Speaker 1: of the protocol. So we'll see you Friday and Saturday
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  Speaker 1: if that's able to happen. And then in terms of defense,
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  Speaker 1: Landon Dickerson, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: And Epinesa, the other edge guy, he was limited again.
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan Grenard. It's interesting. Did you hear Vic? Vic basically
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  Speaker 1: said the, the ankle still bothering.
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  Speaker 2: Him, man. Oh yeah. You saw it again.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he left, came back, left, came back. He's
• 8:27
  Speaker 2: had this now for a bit. Uh, The good news
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  Speaker 2: is– What's that?
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, go ahead. I was going to say a Jomo
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  Speaker 1: with the abdomen who was bothered a little bit in
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  Speaker 1: that game, limited also. These are just bad– it's like
• 8:41
  Speaker 1: you want– again, you want to be optimistic, and then
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: somebody new who's important– they're all important, but who's a
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  Speaker 1: starter or an impact player pops up on the injury list,
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  Speaker 1: and you just don't know.
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  Speaker 2: So Jomo was the one positive. He actually got some
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: work in limited with ankle and knee. That's actually a
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  Speaker 2: very good sign.
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  Speaker 1: Agreed.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, we knew it wasn't major because he
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: kind of said that, but he hyperextended his knee and
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  Speaker 2: had the ankle injury. But the good thing is he
• 9:07
  Speaker 2: got some work in on Thursday. We'll see what happens.
• 9:10
  Speaker 2: Jihad Campbell, he had the knee issue. That's gone off
• 9:12
  Speaker 2: the injury report. He now has a wrist issue. Michael
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: Carter was seen working out on the side. He didn't
• 9:17
  Speaker 2: practice with the abdomen. Oh, boy. So right now, Jordan Davis,
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: by the way, he was fine. He took all his reps.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to play. You saw him. He was limping
• 9:30
  Speaker 2: off with a shin. And he has a thumb injury.
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  Speaker 2: He worked. But as you said, teams generally have an
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: idea of who's going to go. And there's a small
• 9:40
  Speaker 2: percentage where they don't know until they get through all
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: the three practices. The ones I would be concerned about
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: moving on here to sum it up, Smitty, Wicks, Goddard
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: because it's a knee, Kendall. Grenard. We have no idea
• 9:59
  Speaker 2: what to expect. Right. Smith, Nolan Smith, concussion. The average
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: length is six and a half to seven days recovery,
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  Speaker 2: so he could be hugging up right against it. Saturday's
• 10:10
  Speaker 2: the key day. He has to work. He has to
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: get some work in. He really needs to. But Katie,
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: by the way, he did work with a shoulder injury.
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: That's good. Because, man, they basically are down to James Newby,
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: who's a six-step edge rusher and had some quality snaps.
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: We talked to Greg Cosell about that on Inside the Tape.
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: But he's a smaller guy. You just don't want to matter.
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: He's too small. But guess what? At this point, as
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: much as Vic says he doesn't want to play Jihad
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: Campbell at edge, instead of being a run defender on
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: the edge, you got to do what you got to
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: do to win.
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: Get a catch rush. Come on.
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: If anything, you just might see him blitzing more from
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: the linebacker position. Adam, I totally forgot this. When I
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: was giving you my scenario of what the Eagles offensive
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: line interior might have looked like, Tyler Steen was also
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: limited because he's got the shoulder and he did not
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: play well. at all against the Panthers. Greg Cosell pointed
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: that out. And we showed some on, on inside the tape.
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: So if he didn't do any seven on sevens or more,
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: and neither did Willie Lampkin and neither did Kendall, I can,
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: I can't even, I guess, Micah Morris, Jake majors, and
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: maybe a juke would did play some kind of guard at,
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: on the first day of practice. That's just, again, it's
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: just not, it doesn't mean these guys can't make it,
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: but you're trying to get continuity at this spot and
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: you just keep plugging in guys who, Left and right
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: in positions they're not used to playing.
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: Fred Johnson, I know he took some reps late in
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: training camp at guard.
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was probably guard. You're right. He was probably
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: right guard. Maybe Micah Morris was left and Majors was center.
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: Well, they've gone out of their way not to play
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: Micah Morris, who's doing a rookie diary. But he's a
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: massive dude, man. You like the size here. Right now,
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: the only healthy receivers of the seven they have on
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: the 53– We're saying who are not listed on the
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: injury report. Makai Lemon, who's an inside receiver. Mm-hmm. Ares Cooper,
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: our guy. And Elijah Moore, who they refuse. He's got
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: one pass target this season. Man.
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: Man. All right.
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: Well, hey, look.
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: Let's get to some transactors. And again, we mentioned Barkley.
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: I say one Barkley was limited. I did not think
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: he would be anything getting back to practice. That's normal
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: when you're coming off a hamstring that they're not going
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: to throw you out there. I don't interpret that as
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: as much of a bad sign as some of the
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: other ones we're talking about.
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: That's a good sign. Yeah, that's absolutely plain. I know
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: the way these things work, especially with hamstrings. Yeah, this
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: is this is fun. Now, if it doesn't work Friday night.
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: It would raise my eyes a little bit like, oh, OK,
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: we got to see. We're not rolling them out yet.
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: We're not doing anything. We got to see what happens Saturday.
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: But if he practices full Friday, unless he has some
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: kind of setback, he's playing. So there you go. All right.
• 13:05
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• 13:06
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  Speaker 1: picks run your game. Let's talk about the transactions because
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: the Eagles are making a lot of moves at running back.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Began earlier in the week. Carson Steele, feel bad for
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: the guy, Adam. He had such a nice preseason, finally
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: gets on the opportunity last week, gets hurt, and then
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: he gets waved injured.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's on IR. He's on IR. So here we go.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Here's everything this week. So, on Wednesday, they worked out
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Evan Neal, who's a guard right tackle, former first-round bust
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: of the Giants. He was released from the Raiders practice
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: squad on Monday. Eagles worked him out. They like what
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: they saw. They signed him to their practice squad. He's
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: just a guy, my understanding was, talking to people close
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: to the Giants, they kind of knew early on it
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: was probably not going to work out. He was... Boy,
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: it's tough, man. When you miss– I think he was
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: the seventh pick overall in 22 without looking. I think
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: it was something like that.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Seven or eight. Yeah, it was high.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's bad. That's a real– boy, that sets you back.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: They tried him at right guard. They tried him at
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: right tackle. Raiders who do not have good depth, they
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: cut him off their practice squad. Yeah. And then Tyus Bowser,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: who was a second-round pick, back in 2017, 10 seasons ago,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: For the Ravens, he had a severe knee injury some
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: years ago, and he's trying to get his career back.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: He's 31 years old, but he's a speed rusher. In fact,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: he was one of the better speed rushers in the
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: league for a while, and he got a big extension,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: but he wound up getting hurt, kind of bounced around,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: and Eagles, from what I understand, likes his workout. But
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: they're kind of working through this. We'll see who they
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: have available. They did cut EJ Jenkins. If he's not claimed,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: you would think he would go to the practice squad.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: And they could use it. This is a good practice
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: squad trick because he's got three elevations if he makes
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: it through waivers. Right. And there you go. I see
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: why they did that. Jaden Blue, he passed the waivers unclaimed.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Resigned to their practice squad. Released from the practice squad
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: were Ian Wheeler and James Brockermeyer. And then they can't
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: get rid of this guy. This guy is, I give
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: him credit, Elijah Mitchell's back to the practice squad. And
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: he actually... I'll make it elevated. Yep. Now, now the
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: way I understand it is he needed with the injury
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: settlement needed. It's typically, typically six weeks at a settlement
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: with him. He's back. As we mentioned, Neil's on the
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: practice squad and Anthony or G who's a special teams,
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: a good speed. It's bounced around for three years. He's
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: back to the Eagles practice squad. He was with them before. So,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: This thing's an absolute mess, man. It's just an absolute mess.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Right. Did we mention, you mentioned Jaden blue is back
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: on the practice.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, so the EJ Jenkins being released one is
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: interesting because wait, I'm sorry. Wave wave is interesting because they,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: it gives them a spot open. They did not sign
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Zach Ertz to the 53 last week. And it didn't.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, you just never know with Nick Sirianni. He
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: obviously didn't give any clues that they were going to
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: do it for this game. But they're down a special
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: teamer without Jenkins. And I believe Grant Calcaterra plays more
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: special teams, obviously, than Zach Ertz. So I still don't
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: know if this one spot is going to go to
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Ertz or if it's going to go to. Calcaterra or
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: somebody who contributes on special teams.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: All right a couple things here Calcaterra had a full
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: practice on Thursday so did Eli Stowers.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: He should he's still I should mention they're still in
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: that 21 day practice.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: They are yep yep yep yep uh so is Dickerson
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: in in the window oh and then um I've known
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: this for a couple weeks. I think I might have
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: mentioned in passing, but it's just important to note that
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Lane Johnson will take up a roster spot the entire season. Right.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: For cap purposes. Yep. They literally cannot put them on.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: They cannot take the acceleration of the option bonus paration.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: And the restructure. They just can't do it. Right.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Which is tough. It puts them in a tough spot
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: because this year more than other years where you could
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  Speaker 1: do it, they've had so many injuries and they've had
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: to play. You're basically working with a 52-man or one
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: short than everybody else. And you need every spot right
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: now because of all your injuries.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a tough deal, man. It is what it is.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Not blaming Laney. Yeah, no, no, no. It's just a
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: tough spot. Yeah, it just sucks that they're in such
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: a tough way right now. Howie and John Ferrari, the
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: ops guy, who's assistant general manager, but his big deal
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: is operations. He came from the league office. This is
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: where everybody earns their money because there's definitely strategy with
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: all this stuff. This is crazy roster gymnastics. We haven't
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: seen this in a long time. It's both sides of
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: the football. Just when you're feeling good about the pass
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: target group, Smitty with a hamstring. Now, it doesn't mean
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: he had a setback. This could be part of the
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: protocol to make sure he gets through. But Wicks, you
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: saw him get hurt. All these tight ends hurt. All
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: the craziness with the offensive line shuffle. I mean, poor
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Sean Mannion and Chris Cooper. I mean, I know, look,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: they haven't had a good couple weeks here. We called
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: it out inside the tape. But there's only so much
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: you can control. And this is an absolute nightmare, man.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: And facing a team, as we know, Christian Parker is
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: up against it with guys who don't play the right way.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: They've had a lack of discipline. They've had six coordinators
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: in eight years. There's a reason for it. They don't
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: get the right players, the Cowboys do. That could be
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: a 30 for 30. All the problems that the coaches
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: have had getting guys to play the right way on defense.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: It's why they can't win.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: If you want to add to that, the Cowboys came
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: into the year thinking, all right, we know we're going
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: to struggle defensively or try to get better, but at
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: least we can hang our hat on the fact that
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: we have an explosive offense and they've been outside of
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: the offensive line. I know Booker missed some time. They've
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: been generally healthy on offense. They've been terrible for the
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: last few weeks.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: I've scored.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Do you know they have actually fewer rushing yards than
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: the Eagles, which is like almost hard to believe.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I saw that. Yeah. Yeah. I saw that. Just, just
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: so you know, Christian Parker, the first year, right. Mattie
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: was just fired after one year. Mike Zimmer was gone
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: after one year. Yeah. Dan Quinn, obviously he left to
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: become a head coach. Mike Nolan, okay? Gone after one year.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is just, what are we doing, folks?
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, does it not feel like the Eagles offensive coordinator? Like,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: it's always the coordinator that gets blamed and not the personnel. Yeah, exactly.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: See the fingers here? Fingers pointing? Yeah. Goodness gracious.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, this whole game is interesting because it's like,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I was joking with Sam Finkel on Inside the Data.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: This is like, The movable force versus the resistible object.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: The Eagles offense does not want to move, and the
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys defense doesn't want to stop anybody from moving.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: So what's going to give?
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Real quick before we get out of here. Cowboys injuries
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: are actually a couple. There are two that are key.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: There are only really two of note. Devontae Turpin, their
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: outstanding returner, punt kickoff returner, sort of gadget or specialty
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  Speaker 2: player where you see inside handoff and all sorts of stuff.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: He got dinged with ribs. OK, so we're going to
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: watch that one. And Dee Winters is one of their
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: starting inside backers. Kef injury, neither Winters or Turpin practice
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: on Wednesday. Excuse me, Thursday. Joey Porter will play. He
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: has an ankle injury. He took all his reps. So
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: this is why when you when you continue to miss
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: on draft picks or, you know, you just don't get
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: it right. This is why they made all those transactions
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: last year and they keep bringing in free agents or
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: make trades and don't resign some of the players because
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: you got an 84 year old general manager owner. Okay.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: And his son, Steven is a director of player personnel. Oh,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: by the way, he also is like a VP of business.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: That that's normal. Like that. That's what you do when
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: you're on the football team. Sure. Good luck.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: It's too bad. Cause they got a good executive, Will McClay,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: who obviously is brought in some great talent, but there's just,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: you know, when you're hamstrung by the people above you,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: there's nothing you can do about it.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: And he's turned on opportunities to be a GM. Cause
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: they keep, they keep giving raises and, He oversees it,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: but Jerry has final say. He has personnel control.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's ridiculous. Anyway.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Anybody else would have been fired by now for that. Yeah.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Any just quick thoughts on this? Again, I mean, the
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Dallas offense, I want people to understand, is not what
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: people– it's been very, very bad. Brian Schottenheimer, I mean,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: we're so micro-focused on Nick Sirianni's decision-making. Schotty's made some
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: questionable decisions as both a game manager and a head coach.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: So these are two teams that are both spiraling downward.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: And whoever wins this game Monday night is going to
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: feel like they saved their season a little bit. And
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: whoever loses, Adam, you might start hearing words like fire
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: sale or, you know.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Boo your punting off. People are thinking Dak was going
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: to get 40 touchdowns this season. No chance. He might
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: not even get 30. Yeah. It's– It's crazy because Pickens,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: you know how talented he is, but he's so up
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: and down. You know about CeeDee Lamb. They're loaded at
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: tight end. Flournoy's a pretty good slot receiver. You can
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: line up a little bit outside. Javante Williams is productive,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: but he's not explosive. Right. And they've spent... I mean,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: when you look at what they've done with the big
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: trade with the Jets last year to get Quinton Williams,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: a trade, obviously, with... With the Packers, which crazy. Oh, yeah.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: The Kenny Clark trade, obviously. Parsons brought in D winners.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Made the trade for Jerry Porter. Jerron Bland, we've outlined.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: He's an okay nickel. He's not an outside player.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:11
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• 26:15
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• 26:18
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