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Ranking the 'Texas Chain Saw Massacre' Franchise! · Beyond The Blood: A Horror Movie Commentary Podcast

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Speaker 5: All right, everyone, welcome to the first official ranking podcast
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Speaker 5: here on Beyond the Blood. My name is Chris aka
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Speaker 5: Bearded Film Guy. I'm going to be your host through
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Speaker 5: this Texas Chainsaw Masacre rank, and of course, as always,
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Speaker 5: I'm joined by my co host Steve.
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Speaker 3: Good morning, Good morning. What's going on, my friend?
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Speaker 5: You had a rough night's sleep and I'm fighting allergies,
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Speaker 5: so I'm sure this is going to be a blast.
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Speaker 3: I did. And you know what, when I woke up
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Speaker 3: this morning, I just knew that we had this Texas
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Speaker 3: Chainsaw massacre ranking ahead of us, and it just gave
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Speaker 3: me that second win that I needed.
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Speaker 5: You actually like flew out of bed. You're like, all right,
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Speaker 5: we gotta get this done.
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Speaker 3: I started screaming the I'm the Lord of the Harvest,
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Speaker 3: and I just got my ranking together and I was like,
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Speaker 3: all right, I'm ready to record with Chris.
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Speaker 5: I woke up this morning and got a ton of
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Speaker 5: laundry done, and then I was like, all right, Monday morning,
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Speaker 5: it's a holiday, it's sunny. I was like, let me
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Speaker 5: let me find something that just like feels really good
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Speaker 5: to put on. So I put on Jonathan Demi's The
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Speaker 5: Silence of the Lambs.
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Speaker 6: What else watching?
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Speaker 3: Okay? I saw you posted that and I was thinking
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Speaker 3: to myself, I'm thinking, like, is he really watching that?
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Speaker 3: This early in the morning. That's a bold move.
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Speaker 5: And then I woke up and up it's like I
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Speaker 5: don't know what to watch, and I had just been
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Speaker 5: I don't know why I've been I've had this inkling
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Speaker 5: to watch The Sons of the Lambs.
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Speaker 6: I was like, you know what, let me just do it.
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Speaker 6: And it look I've seen it before.
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Speaker 5: It's not as depressing as it, you know, normally would be.
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Speaker 6: It's a great movie.
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Speaker 3: Sorry, I've been itching to go back and rewatch the
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Speaker 3: Evil Dead trilogy. Been talking about that just sporadically on
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Speaker 3: different live streams, and it just feels like the right
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Speaker 3: time to revisit it.
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Speaker 5: I want to talk to you about doing maybe the
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Speaker 5: audience listening to let me know I want to do some.
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Speaker 6: Like talk about scores.
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Speaker 5: And soundtracks on here. I've had this idea to do
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Speaker 5: like a evolution of the Evil Dead scores because I
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Speaker 5: actually have Erica bought me the first Evil Dead vinyl.
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Speaker 5: It's the remaster or the re recording.
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Speaker 3: Is it the one from is it Mondo?
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Speaker 6: I'd have to get it.
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Speaker 5: I forget it was really hard to find like she
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Speaker 5: had on eBay, but it's it's expanded, so it's like
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Speaker 5: double the tracks. But I went through a whole phase
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Speaker 5: where I was doing research for this video. I want
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Speaker 5: to do an Evil Dead like evolution of the score,
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Speaker 5: and I was just gonna break down the individual scores
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Speaker 5: because like the Army of Darkness score is incredible, and
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Speaker 5: then you get into like Evil Dead twenty thirteen.
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Speaker 6: So that's something I want to start covering.
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Speaker 5: More So, if anybody's listening to this and you're like, hey,
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Speaker 5: that sounds pretty fucking cool, because we can we can
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Speaker 5: actually add in brief stintse of the score here.
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Speaker 3: That would be very immersive.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's what I want to do. Side Tangent.
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Speaker 5: I know we're talking TCM today, but you know, let
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Speaker 5: the people in on what's going on.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. These episodes, I feel like are kind of like
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Speaker 3: our After Hours episodes are a little bit more laid
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Speaker 3: back fun.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so yeah, Texas Chainsaw Mascar Man, we're finally going
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Speaker 5: to rank them. Let me ask you, uh, did you
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Speaker 5: find the ranking all that difficult to put together?
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Speaker 3: Maybe towards the middle. I feel like that there's a
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Speaker 3: lot of different entries that I kind of went back
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Speaker 3: and forth on. I mean, I think you can at
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Speaker 3: least roughly agree on maybe for sure like the top
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Speaker 3: the top couple, but it's when you start getting from
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Speaker 3: like the middle on down because I don't know, it
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Speaker 3: just feels like a log jam right in the middle.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think.
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Speaker 5: I think I really struggled because it's like almost past
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Speaker 5: a certain point, it's varying degrees of bad ideas. It's
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Speaker 5: not really bad execution. Like I think there's a couple
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Speaker 5: of movies that are good movies, they're just not good
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Speaker 5: Texas chains On Mascer movies. And it's something we'll get
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Speaker 5: into as we kind of chat about each movie. But
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Speaker 5: we individually have our own ranking, and we decided, let's
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Speaker 5: come on here and instead of before recording, we'll build
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Speaker 5: a beyond the Blood ranking. We'll kind of fight this
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Speaker 5: out as we go and kind of construct the beyond
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Speaker 5: the Blood ranking. And obviously, like my ranking is going
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Speaker 5: to change to fit it, your ranking's going to change
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Speaker 5: to fit it. Universally, we have a pretty good like
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Speaker 5: like we're very similar in a lot of areas, Like
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Speaker 5: there's just a few places we had to move some
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Speaker 5: things around to build it. But of course I always
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Speaker 5: like to give this disclaimer anything we're doing. Ranking wise,
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Speaker 5: this is our ranking. This is not definitive. You don't
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Speaker 5: have to agree. You know, if it wasn't our individual rankings,
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Speaker 5: it wouldn't be fun. If we just agreed with everybody,
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Speaker 5: it wouldn't be fun, right, it wouldn't.
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Speaker 6: Be our own.
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Speaker 5: So if anybody wants to get bent out of shape,
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Speaker 5: out of anywhere anything is placed, share then just you
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Speaker 5: know what, message us individually, tell us that you disagree,
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Speaker 5: and send us your ranking and we'll.
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Speaker 3: I was about to say, share your ranking with us.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna say, we'll tell you that you're wrong,
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Speaker 5: But so TEXTA chains On Mascar franchise since nineteen seventy
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Speaker 5: four has produced nine movies, including the original, the latest
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Speaker 5: being Netflix's twenty twenty two Texas Chainsaw Masker very original title,
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Speaker 5: and that was a sequel to the original that brought
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Speaker 5: Sally back. The timeline of this franchise and the continuities
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Speaker 5: all over the place, it barely exists even between the
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Speaker 5: first two movies. When you were younger, Steve, what movie
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Speaker 5: before we get into figuring this out, what sequel or
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Speaker 5: remake or prequel, however you want to put it, did
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Speaker 5: you find yourself attached to outside of the.
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Speaker 7: Original, I would have to say the I think the
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Speaker 7: movie that I had the most rewatchability with outside of
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Speaker 7: the original was the O three remake.
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Speaker 3: Same just because of I think not only that was
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Speaker 3: around the time that I was really starting to get
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Speaker 3: into horror like that, but it was just it was
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Speaker 3: a staple of like the two thousands run of like
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Speaker 3: horror films that were coming out at the time and
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Speaker 3: kind of led the way for you know, like Friday
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Speaker 3: the Thirteenth and you know, all the other you know,
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Speaker 3: remakes we were getting around then. But I would have
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Speaker 3: to say that one and then I just remember Texas
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Speaker 3: Chains saw three and the Next Generation being those ones
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Speaker 3: that I always saw at the video store. I just
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Speaker 3: wasn't as into the series that at that point.
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Speaker 5: So what about you, Oh three remake? And I always
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Speaker 5: loved I saw the beginning in theaters. I was like
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Speaker 5: seen you know when that came out.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I saw much more.
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Speaker 5: I remember like the new line era of TCM, like
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Speaker 5: three and Next Generation, those were like the video store staples.
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Speaker 5: And I would say that in a way kind of
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Speaker 5: like I I feel like it was the original for me,
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Speaker 5: And then I didn't see two until way later on
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Speaker 5: in life. I actually didn't like it, and then I
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Speaker 5: was like being stupid, and then I came to love it.
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Speaker 5: Text chancew O three was like life changing. At that
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Speaker 5: time in my life.
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Speaker 6: I had the cool DVD set with like the foldout.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yep.
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Speaker 5: The beginning was huge because I remember going to the
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Speaker 5: theaters and seeing that and I forget who took me.
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Speaker 6: I think it was my stepdad maybe.
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Speaker 5: And then when we got to Texas Chainsaw three D
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Speaker 5: that's sort of when I tapered back out, you know
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Speaker 5: what I mean.
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Speaker 6: And then you know, so there's kind of a there
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Speaker 6: was a really big.
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Speaker 5: Attachment there in the middle in like the early two
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Speaker 5: thousands between O three and O six and then kind
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Speaker 5: of post that.
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Speaker 6: I wasn't the most excited for the Netflix one.
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Speaker 3: No, not at all. It's just weird, Like I just
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Speaker 3: wanted to at least go into it with an open mind,
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Speaker 3: as I did with all the other sequels post uh
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Speaker 3: the beginning. You know, I didn't. I wasn't really following
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Speaker 3: the series past that. You know. They just I think
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Speaker 3: it's just well, how much more can you really do? Uh?
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Speaker 3: With these characters? And yeah, well obviously debate that as
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Speaker 3: we get a little bit further into it. Some are
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Speaker 3: better than others.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and the beginning, the beginning and O three have
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Speaker 5: a great attachment because the beginning is a prequel to
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Speaker 5: the three remake, so like they're directly connected. And then
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Speaker 5: when you get into TEXTA Chainsaw three D, I think
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Speaker 5: it goes back to the original.
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Speaker 3: Lower like it a little bit of recconning.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's I'm already confused.
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Speaker 3: The jumble timelines.
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Speaker 6: I don't know where I'm at.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what's worse this or Halloween.
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Speaker 5: This, especially when you get into like Texas Chainsaw four
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Speaker 5: and they get into like the conspiracies and like the
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Speaker 5: FBI and the Illuminati plot, and that's post uh, that's
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Speaker 5: that's post Thorn trilogy Halloween. So Halloween is much easier
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Speaker 5: to comprehend than textra change sa Maascar, text chain some masker.
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Speaker 5: Trying to explain it to somebody is like, Okay, so
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Speaker 5: you have the original, and then you have the seql
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Speaker 5: to the original, but the sequel to the original is
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Speaker 5: not the same type of movie as the original. And
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Speaker 5: then you have the third. Yeah, then you have the
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Speaker 5: third and then that's completely different in tone. And then
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Speaker 5: the fourth goes way crazy, and then you don't have
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Speaker 5: anything until the remake, and then it gets real why
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Speaker 5: and then there's the next movie is a prequel to
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Speaker 5: the remake. But then the next movie is a prequel
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Speaker 5: to the original or the sequel to the original Texas
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Speaker 5: chain sawm ask here, but it's a prequel to this.
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Speaker 6: It gets pretty fucked up.
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Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean I think I described it
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Speaker 3: once with the Texas Chainsaw series as there's when the
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Speaker 3: highs are high. They're definitely high, but there's a lot
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Speaker 3: more lows the series, like really low lows.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so we actually to kick this off, we actually
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Speaker 5: both agree on our bottom ranking here, our very last
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Speaker 5: title here. So let's add this into the notes as
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Speaker 5: our final that we both ag.
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Speaker 3: Can I say it's by a wide margin, at least
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Speaker 3: in my rankings. I feel like some of these other
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Speaker 3: ones I can at least justify really wanting to go
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Speaker 3: back and rewatch. This is one that I just when
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Speaker 3: I saw it, it felt more like a one time
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Speaker 3: watch for me. And and we'll get into it, but
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Speaker 3: I was very surprised finding out who the directors were
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Speaker 3: behind this movie.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, so we're talking about in last Place twenty
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Speaker 5: seventeen's leather Face. This was directed by Alexandre Bussio and
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Speaker 5: Julia Morey, who directed the French film Inside and I
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Speaker 5: love that movie, yeah, which is great. Leatherface was so spoilers.
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Speaker 5: If you're listening to a TCM ranking, I hope you've
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Speaker 5: seen all the movies anyway. But what really pisses me
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Speaker 5: off about Leatherface is that there's a there's a decent
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Speaker 5: idea here of like, let's go all the way back
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Speaker 5: to teenage leather Face, right, it's a great I thought like, hey,
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Speaker 5: do we need it?
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Speaker 4: No?
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Speaker 6: Could it be something? Yes?
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Speaker 5: And what you get is sort of like this on
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Speaker 5: the run movie that you end up just not giving
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Speaker 5: a shit about anybody.
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Speaker 3: No, not at all. It felt more like a thriller
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Speaker 3: than it did it. No, No, And I think after
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Speaker 3: we had the beginning, I just didn't really see the
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Speaker 3: value in mining Leatherface's origin again and doing it worse
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Speaker 3: this time. I just, yeah, it felt like a road movie,
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Speaker 3: like that type of approach to this, and maybe it
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Speaker 3: would work a little bit better if the writing like
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Speaker 3: really shine, but it definitely didn't in this movie. And
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Speaker 3: that's what I was looking at was I don't believe
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Speaker 3: the directors, So is it Julian Maury and Alexandre Bastillo. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: so it looks like they didn't have a writing credit
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Speaker 3: on this, and for Inside, they actually were responsible for
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Speaker 3: the writing for that film, So I wonder if there's
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Speaker 3: some correlation there. But this is one that by the
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Speaker 3: time I got through it, it just did not land
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Speaker 3: for me. This was a movie that I just don't
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Speaker 3: really have any desire to revisit. And if I'm going
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Speaker 3: to go back and I'm gonna watch the original Other Face,
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Speaker 3: which I mean, Chris, you could probably make a case
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Speaker 3: like do you really need it? No?
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Speaker 5: I mean, do you need any of the origin stories?
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Speaker 1: No?
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Speaker 6: Not really. No, It's funny.
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Speaker 5: I was looking at the writer for The Face, Seth Sherwood.
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Speaker 5: He wrote Hellfest, which is a favorite of mine, kind
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Speaker 5: of a little sleeper horror movie from from right after
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Speaker 5: this time, twenty eighteen.
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Speaker 3: Maybe it was just a miss.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's it's it's.
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Speaker 5: The movie does this crazy thing where it leads on
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Speaker 5: that one of the characters that were following, who is
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Speaker 5: a teenager who is very much a leather face character.
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Speaker 5: He's got the build of leather face. He's got the look,
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Speaker 5: he's got the lack of personality, like he is a
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Speaker 5: leather face. And even in the marketing for the movie,
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Speaker 5: I remember there was a shot in the trailer of
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Speaker 5: that character like dragging a body through the woods, and
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Speaker 5: it was like, okay, there's leather Face. I don't need
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Speaker 5: you to like pull the rug out from under me
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Speaker 5: and say, hey, the guy you thought was Leatherface isn't.
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Speaker 5: And that's what this movie does. The character who you
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Speaker 5: thought was going to be Leatherface turns out not to be,
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Speaker 5: and it's just a weird choice all around. Man, there's
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Speaker 5: no this feels like we wrote a script for another movie.
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Speaker 5: We're not gonna make that other movie, but we can
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Speaker 5: kind of retrofit Texas chains on masker into this and
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Speaker 5: that's what you end up getting. So just not my
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Speaker 5: bag of team. We did not need this.
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Speaker 6: And the reviews for this movie are all over the.
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Speaker 5: Place, like it's got a five point zero with thirty
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Speaker 5: thousand reviews on IMDb, and some people are claiming that
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Speaker 5: this is a masterpiece. Other people were saying that, you know,
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Speaker 5: this is the worst thing ever made.
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Speaker 6: I don't know.
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Speaker 5: I just have no desire to go back and watch
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Speaker 5: this movie.
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Speaker 3: No. Ever, this when I was talking about the low
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Speaker 3: points in the franchise, I think this is the lowest.
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Speaker 3: Yeah that I'm being punished for being a Texas chainsaw fan.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, I mean it feels that way.
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Speaker 5: Nobody has talked about this movie again, Like there's no
18:02
Speaker 5: I forgot this movie.
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Speaker 3: Existed, which is wild because I remember, do you recall
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Speaker 3: at one point these directors were they were initially attached to.
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Speaker 3: I believe it was a continuation of the Rob Zombie
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Speaker 3: Halloween movies. It would have been a third entry.
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Speaker 6: I remember hearing that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I remember hearing about them. They were like
18:23
Speaker 3: speculated to be attached to the project. I think that
18:25
Speaker 3: there was a hell Raiser project at one point that
18:28
Speaker 3: they had been attached to, So maybe this wasn't the
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Speaker 3: project for them. I just feel like that they kind
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Speaker 3: of didn't really bring anything new to the franchise.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I mean since then, they've only directed.
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Speaker 6: Let's see.
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Speaker 5: I always get confused by they directed a movie called
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Speaker 5: The Deep House. They also directed be called The Soul Eater.
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Speaker 5: I think both of those were put out from Arrow
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Speaker 5: at some point, and both of these have pretty good reviews,
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Speaker 5: and we have a five point eight of five point
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Speaker 5: three out of ten with significantly less reviews.
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Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting. I just looked up the
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Speaker 3: composer for this film, John Frizell. He's done a lot
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Speaker 3: of collaborations with Mike Judge, so he hit. He did
19:25
Speaker 3: Beavis and butt Head to America Off Space. Plus I
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Speaker 3: believe he did the score for Dante's Peak Alien Resurrection,
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Speaker 3: so it's such an interesting choice to pair with, you know,
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Speaker 3: doing a score for this movie. So I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I just thought it was an interesting tidbit about the
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Speaker 3: uh the movie itself.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, number eight. This is where we get into
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Speaker 5: our first, our first little thing here, and I don't
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Speaker 5: think I'm gonna fight as much. I think I might
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Speaker 5: end up falling to this. So for number eight my
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Speaker 5: personal ranking, I have Texas Chainsaasker of the Next Generation
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Speaker 5: and you have the twenty twenty two Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
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Speaker 5: Now let me ask you, Texas chains Masker of the
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Speaker 5: Next Generation is the only movie of the Texa Chaninslaw
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Speaker 5: mask of franchise that does not have a kill from
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Speaker 5: a chainsaw and texta Chainsabasker twenty twenty two is the
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Speaker 5: only movie of the franchise that has a bust full
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Speaker 5: of people who get killed by a chainsaw. So what
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Speaker 5: kind of agreement can we come doing this?
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Speaker 3: We'll get Well, okay, that scene and I feel like
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Speaker 3: it's probably the most notable scene that you have in
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Speaker 3: this film, I would say, outside of the Sally face
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Speaker 3: off with other face, which to me, that heart is
21:01
Speaker 3: such a mishandling of that character because I know that
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Speaker 3: the angle that they're going for felt like very much
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Speaker 3: in the same vein as Jamie Lee Curtis. Yeah, she's
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Speaker 3: been she's been preparing for this moment her whole life,
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Speaker 3: and just to have her basically just like one and done,
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Speaker 3: like she just gets destroyed. She's been preparing for this moment,
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Speaker 3: and it just feels like she tripped over her own
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Speaker 3: shoelaces and just felt like face first into the chainsaw.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not good for a legacy.
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Speaker 3: Character like that. That is why I have such a
21:40
Speaker 3: hard time with this movie, because it just felt like
21:44
Speaker 3: you weren't respecting anything about the original film, and it
21:50
Speaker 3: just felt like this film was really trying to ride
21:53
Speaker 3: the success of the Blumhouse Halloween trilogy. It just didn't.
21:58
Speaker 3: It didn't connect for me. Now, I'll say the scene
22:01
Speaker 3: you were talking about earlier where you have everyone that's
22:04
Speaker 3: on a live stream and they're on the bus and
22:08
Speaker 3: they're all watching through their phone. They have leather face
22:12
Speaker 3: that comes on the bus. I will not take that
22:15
Speaker 3: away from you. That scene is just that's right up
22:19
Speaker 3: my alley and it's so gory. But it's not enough
22:24
Speaker 3: for me to justify putting this movie higher in the ranking,
22:28
Speaker 3: just because the movie, for me, it just feels like
22:31
Speaker 3: outside of that, it feels very I don't know. The
22:39
Speaker 3: plot just doesn't really resonate with me. Yeah, the characters
22:44
Speaker 3: don't do much for me, and that's why I don't
22:46
Speaker 3: have it higher in the list.
22:48
Speaker 5: You know, I think my placing of the movie is
22:53
Speaker 5: purely in the enjoyment factor, right, because we're never gonna
22:59
Speaker 5: get closed to what the original movies felt like. I
23:03
Speaker 5: did feel a little insulted, not actually, but you know,
23:08
Speaker 5: just in the handling of Sally. I do think there's
23:14
Speaker 5: a lot of cool leather face shit in this movie,
23:17
Speaker 5: and I think it's brutal. It brings the violence, but
23:20
Speaker 5: the overarching plot of a group of these young kids
23:26
Speaker 5: who purchase a town and they're gonna do whatever they're
23:31
Speaker 5: gonna do with this. Yeah, they're gonna make like this
23:35
Speaker 5: woke city. Whatever they're gonna do is so incredibly forceful.
23:41
Speaker 5: And I do think that there's because people commentate on
23:43
Speaker 5: this movie all the time and they're like, this is
23:45
Speaker 5: what's wrong with modern day characters, like modern day young characters,
23:49
Speaker 5: that they make them so unlikable, But it makes the
23:51
Speaker 5: payoff of the death better.
23:54
Speaker 6: But that works different.
23:56
Speaker 5: Like I think if there's a character that you hate
23:59
Speaker 5: and you want to see them die, right, it's it
24:02
Speaker 5: feels good. You're like, Okay, cool, that character's gone. They
24:05
Speaker 5: deserve that, versus characters you like that you don't want
24:10
Speaker 5: to see get killed, and when they get killed, it
24:13
Speaker 5: provokes a different response. I prefer that end of the latter.
24:19
Speaker 5: I want characters that I care about, whose lives are
24:24
Speaker 5: put in danger, that I don't want to see die,
24:26
Speaker 5: but I know have to, and it makes the death
24:30
Speaker 5: that much more memorable for me, you know what I
24:34
Speaker 5: mean for sure?
24:35
Speaker 3: And I'm trying to think towards the end of it.
24:42
Speaker 3: It's it's kind of crazy because it it's so fast. Oh,
24:48
Speaker 3: where there's basically like a decapitation. At the very end
24:51
Speaker 3: of it, you think these two characters are going to
24:53
Speaker 3: be getting away, and in a split second, I was like, Okay, well,
25:03
Speaker 3: at least you ended on a bold way to finish
25:06
Speaker 3: out the movie. I will say one thing that I
25:11
Speaker 3: have to commend this movie for is a cinematography. It's
25:15
Speaker 3: gorgeous in this film. A cinematographer on this film is
25:19
Speaker 3: Ricardo Diaz, and I was really impressed with that as
25:24
Speaker 3: a whole. There are some highlights in this movie. I
25:30
Speaker 3: can't say that it's obviously hitting quite the same low
25:33
Speaker 3: as as Leather Face for me. And of course you
25:37
Speaker 3: have Colin Stetson doing the score for this film. He's
25:41
Speaker 3: responsible for Hereditari and I think he did recently Uzumakim.
25:45
Speaker 3: He did the score for that as well, So I'm
25:49
Speaker 3: a big fan of his work. And that really enhanced
25:54
Speaker 3: the experience, that really elevated the atmosphere. But I think
26:00
Speaker 3: the writing for me just just fell a little flat.
26:04
Speaker 3: I didn't really get to attached, at least for me,
26:06
Speaker 3: I did not get attached to the characters like that.
26:09
Speaker 3: And I just wasn't the biggest fan of what they
26:11
Speaker 3: did with Sally Hart esteem.
26:13
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's it was fun. Like I remember
26:15
Speaker 5: putting it on and like I think we like had
26:18
Speaker 5: a beer dooring and you know.
26:20
Speaker 3: Like the only way to watch it.
26:22
Speaker 5: Yeah, never had it inkling to watch again. I did
26:25
Speaker 5: buy like an mod physical copy of it, so I
26:29
Speaker 5: do have that, but that was just for sake of
26:30
Speaker 5: like wanting to own the collection, you know what I mean.
26:35
Speaker 6: Now I'm willing.
26:36
Speaker 5: I'm one hundred percent willing to shift my placement of
26:38
Speaker 5: it because I actually have it in fifth on my ranking.
26:46
Speaker 5: So I'm getting now confused between my ranking and your ranking.
26:52
Speaker 5: The only thing we would have to move because in
26:56
Speaker 5: my place for that, after a lot of face, I
26:58
Speaker 5: have Texas Chains Master for the Next Generation, which was
27:02
Speaker 5: directed by Kim Henkele, who wrote the original Texas changsu
27:07
Speaker 5: Asker alongside Toby Hooper and had never actually watched the movie.
27:13
Speaker 5: Fun fact, he's never been able to watch the Texas
27:15
Speaker 5: Chains some ascer because he felt like it was it
27:18
Speaker 5: looked like it was made by a bunch of students.
27:20
Speaker 5: It is actually like his exact quote. New line comes
27:23
Speaker 5: to him and says, hey, you wrote the original, we
27:26
Speaker 5: want you to direct another Texas Chainsum asker movie and
27:29
Speaker 5: we wanted to feel like the original, and Kim Henkle
27:32
Speaker 5: accepted that job. How can you make a movie that
27:34
Speaker 5: feels like the original of you never seen the original,
27:39
Speaker 5: what you end up getting is the most annoying leather
27:42
Speaker 5: Face in the world. Good performances by Matthew McConaughey and
27:48
Speaker 5: Rene Zellweger, but they've since basically wanted to take their
27:53
Speaker 5: name off.
27:53
Speaker 3: Of the film.
27:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, they've disowned it. You don't get a single chainsaw kill. Instead,
27:59
Speaker 5: you get an airplay, like a prop plane kill that
28:02
Speaker 5: swings down and kills somebody. There's some cool you know,
28:05
Speaker 5: like when when Leatherface busts out of the I don't
28:08
Speaker 5: know if it's like a greenhouse or whatever that is,
28:10
Speaker 5: and all the windows break and other than that, Dude,
28:13
Speaker 5: this movie's just worthless, man, But you know you have
28:19
Speaker 5: it in six So let me hear your side of
28:24
Speaker 5: the story.
28:25
Speaker 3: Okay, So, like I mentioned earlier, this and Texas Chainsaw
28:30
Speaker 3: three or video store staples. I know what this movie is.
28:36
Speaker 3: It's it's like I feel like it's maybe a little
28:42
Speaker 3: bit more self aware of what it is. Then I
28:45
Speaker 3: think maybe some people pick up on because I think
28:48
Speaker 3: if you watch this movie at first glance, or maybe
28:52
Speaker 3: you're more of a casual fan, I could see how
28:54
Speaker 3: this might not resonate, but it is the most It
28:58
Speaker 3: is exuding that nineties wild, unpredictable energy. I love that
29:07
Speaker 3: it takes some bold swings. You know, you're obviously getting
29:13
Speaker 3: performances from Matthew McConaughey rene Zelwiger very early on in
29:17
Speaker 3: their career. McConaughey, very unhinged, over the top. I felt
29:24
Speaker 3: like he really stole the show for me, you know,
29:27
Speaker 3: not at the time when I saw this, I wasn't
29:29
Speaker 3: as familiar with him as an actor, and he obviously
29:33
Speaker 3: didn't have the career that he does now. And I
29:37
Speaker 3: think that that it's like it feels like watching like
29:42
Speaker 3: a car accident, right, you know, you know, you you
29:46
Speaker 3: know you shouldn't look at it, right, I mean, you
29:50
Speaker 3: know you shouldn't gowk and and you know, like be
29:53
Speaker 3: you know, staring at this tragic event. But I can't
29:56
Speaker 3: help but love this movie for just how shit fucking
30:00
Speaker 3: crazy it is. And I know we were talking about
30:05
Speaker 3: this a little bit earlier, except it definitely doesn't play
30:09
Speaker 3: it safe. It's embracing the weird conspiracy laced subplot. The
30:15
Speaker 3: family dynamic is just so out there and it almost
30:20
Speaker 3: you don't.
30:20
Speaker 6: Think they're out there watching. It's like right.
30:23
Speaker 3: Now, I swear, it's like blurring the line between a
30:27
Speaker 3: dream and a straight up nightmare. And I feel like
30:31
Speaker 3: it's one of those cult movies that time will be
30:35
Speaker 3: kind to it.
30:37
Speaker 5: A lot of time has passed since the nineties and
30:43
Speaker 5: now it hasn't.
30:43
Speaker 3: Been very Chris, I sell you on it or what
30:45
Speaker 3: I want.
30:46
Speaker 5: To put up an argument? Okay, so for sake of
30:49
Speaker 5: we still haven't solidified this position yet, but I want
30:52
Speaker 5: to put up an argument because we both agree on
30:56
Speaker 5: our next positioning, which is Texas Chance All.
30:59
Speaker 6: Three d.
31:02
Speaker 5: A movie that most people only love because of Alexandra
31:05
Speaker 5: da Dario, A movie that is the weirdest fucking place
31:11
Speaker 5: in the timeline because Alexandria or Alexandra da Dario was
31:14
Speaker 5: like twenty four. Yet she's somehow the ancestor of Leatherface,
31:19
Speaker 5: and Leatherface is still alive. He lives in the basement
31:21
Speaker 5: of the house that she inherited. This was written by
31:26
Speaker 5: friend of the podcast, Adam Marcus Co written by him,
31:29
Speaker 5: which ye outside of the do Your Thing Cause.
31:34
Speaker 3: I was like throwing that in our group chats.
31:36
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think that's I don't think the movie's
31:38
Speaker 5: terribly written, but I don't I don't think this is
31:40
Speaker 5: a good Texas Chainsaw Mascer movie.
31:45
Speaker 6: So I want to propose.
31:48
Speaker 5: That for number eight we do Texas Chansaw three D
31:53
Speaker 5: and number seven we do Texas Chainsaw Netflix.
31:59
Speaker 3: That's fair.
32:00
Speaker 5: How's that sound? Yeah, that's fair because I'm willing to
32:03
Speaker 5: all right, so let's once this gets written.
32:05
Speaker 3: I feel like we're playing fantasy football right now. We're
32:07
Speaker 3: making a trade.
32:09
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, we'll do Texas Chainsaw three D. What what's
32:15
Speaker 5: your feelings on three D? How do you How do
32:17
Speaker 5: you feel about that movie?
32:18
Speaker 3: It's it's not the worst out of the franchise. I
32:22
Speaker 3: don't think it's the worst. And this is at least
32:24
Speaker 3: from my ranking. Obviously, I have a deep appreciation for
32:28
Speaker 3: Adam Marcus, you know, and and everything that he brings
32:31
Speaker 3: to the table. On this one, I think it's more
32:36
Speaker 3: or less. I don't. I don't hate it, but I
32:41
Speaker 3: don't love it. Yeah, it obviously they're they're using this
32:47
Speaker 3: film as a continuation of of Toby Hooper's original classics,
32:50
Speaker 3: so it feels like it's basically serving as a direct
32:53
Speaker 3: sequel to that. It's obviously embracing the legacy of it.
32:58
Speaker 3: You get some uh, some memorable performances. We have a
33:02
Speaker 3: lot of returning casts from I believe from the original, right,
33:06
Speaker 3: we have one sick.
33:09
Speaker 6: I think.
33:10
Speaker 5: There's some, but I can't remember. Dude, I barely like
33:16
Speaker 5: the characters in this movie.
33:17
Speaker 6: I'm just not.
33:19
Speaker 3: No, they don't. They don't resonate with you.
33:21
Speaker 5: Every time I watched this movie, it's like I watched
33:23
Speaker 5: it for the first time. I don't remember the last
33:24
Speaker 5: time I watched it.
33:26
Speaker 3: Okay, so this is us trying to recall. So Gunnar
33:30
Speaker 3: Hansen comes back in it, Marilyn Burns, and then John
33:35
Speaker 3: Duggan is in it as well. Bill Mosley is also
33:39
Speaker 3: in it, which, you know, anytime you have a chance
33:41
Speaker 3: to bring in such a iconic actor, I can always
33:46
Speaker 3: appreciate that, But it's not enough to really elevate this
33:52
Speaker 3: further up for me. You know, you got you got
33:57
Speaker 3: Trey songs that's in this I think that that's kind
34:00
Speaker 3: of where it just loses me a little bit. It
34:02
Speaker 3: felt like it was writing that trend of you know,
34:06
Speaker 3: rappers turned actors getting cast in horror movies of the time,
34:11
Speaker 3: and I think that that's.
34:13
Speaker 5: Where I I do want to say, I think the
34:17
Speaker 5: only time that has worked out well is Kid Cutty and.
34:21
Speaker 3: X Yes, and that is like one out of out
34:27
Speaker 3: of how many you know films that we've gotten this.
34:29
Speaker 3: So Alexandro di Dario is not the problem with this
34:35
Speaker 3: movie at all. I repeat, she's not the problem with
34:39
Speaker 3: this movie. We repeat, she is a part of, you know,
34:45
Speaker 3: I guess the three D element. I mean, I feel
34:48
Speaker 3: like we've tried to revisit this countless times and I
34:51
Speaker 3: just don't know if it's ever gonna stick, you know,
34:54
Speaker 3: other than it being kind of a novelty you know, yeah, exactly.
35:03
Speaker 3: It's again, it's not bad. There's a lot of legacy callbacks,
35:08
Speaker 3: a lot of like Chainsaw Mayhem in this movie. So
35:12
Speaker 3: I don't hate it, but I don't love it.
35:14
Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, So let's this is not meant to be
35:19
Speaker 5: a long episode. So we're making great progress. So we
35:23
Speaker 5: have agreed. Number nine, leather Face, Number eight, Texas Chainsaw
35:28
Speaker 5: three D. Now, I do want to say the jump
35:31
Speaker 5: in quality from leather Face to Texas Chainsaw three D
35:34
Speaker 5: is drastic. Yes, like Texas Chainsaw three D isn't like
35:38
Speaker 5: I can sit down and watch it. I'm never gonna
35:41
Speaker 5: get an inkling to watch the leather Face again. No,
35:44
Speaker 5: leather Face is pretty back like I would bury it,
35:50
Speaker 5: you know what I mean?
35:51
Speaker 3: Eight out of nine of these films are worth re
35:54
Speaker 3: visiting if you're doing some sort of like a movie
35:56
Speaker 3: marathon with the Texas Chainsaw movies, I would only revisit
36:01
Speaker 3: eight of them.
36:02
Speaker 6: Yeah.
36:02
Speaker 5: When I got when I was doing my rewatch and
36:04
Speaker 5: I got the leather Face, I was.
36:05
Speaker 6: Like, oh fuck, do I you know? It was the
36:09
Speaker 6: only movie that got that kind.
36:10
Speaker 3: Of Chris was down bad that night.
36:12
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I got a response from it. So that
36:15
Speaker 5: we have number eight Textra Chainsaw three D number seven
36:19
Speaker 5: Netflix Textra Chainsaw Masker number six next generation, we only
36:26
Speaker 5: have one more like real argument to get through. And
36:29
Speaker 5: it's the only other difference in our rankings here, which
36:34
Speaker 5: is I have in my ranking at number what's is
36:41
Speaker 5: nine eight seven? I have a number six Texta chains
36:48
Speaker 5: Masker three leather Face you have it at number four.
36:55
Speaker 5: I have the beginning at number four. But these are
37:02
Speaker 5: two movies for our number five spot that I could
37:07
Speaker 5: go either way with.
37:10
Speaker 6: Texas Chaneaster three.
37:12
Speaker 5: Is enjoyable, you know, despite all the issues with the
37:16
Speaker 5: director being fired and then they couldn't find anybody else
37:18
Speaker 5: the director, so they re hired him again.
37:21
Speaker 6: With like the MPAA just gutting.
37:26
Speaker 5: All of the gore out of this movie, we have
37:28
Speaker 5: like another this is Friday thirteenth, Part seven.
37:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is.
37:32
Speaker 5: You know, And I think what is cool about this movie.
37:36
Speaker 5: I think like Vigo Mortensen is a co addition, you know.
37:42
Speaker 5: I like Ken Ferret even though all he's shooting his
37:45
Speaker 5: one liners the whole time. You know, to me, this
37:48
Speaker 5: is sort of like the what like this is what
37:53
Speaker 5: I expect the franchise to go to when a company
37:55
Speaker 5: like new Line picks it up, you know. So I
37:58
Speaker 5: don't I'm not like this movie doesn't offend me. It
38:04
Speaker 5: doesn't bring anything new to the table. It pulls it,
38:08
Speaker 5: it pulls its punches because of the MPAA stuff, you know.
38:12
Speaker 6: But I but I still don't mind it.
38:15
Speaker 3: No, it's it feels more like a traditional slasher. Yeah,
38:20
Speaker 3: it's it's not obviously, you know, as psychological and just
38:28
Speaker 3: gritty and terrifying as the original. It doesn't hit the
38:32
Speaker 3: same highs as Texas Stan Saw Too, because that's more
38:35
Speaker 3: of like a horror comedy. And then this comes along,
38:41
Speaker 3: and I feel like it's very much in the same
38:45
Speaker 3: vein as a lot of the other Slashers that were
38:47
Speaker 3: coming out around the time. Doesn't do anything new to
38:50
Speaker 3: reinvent the wheel or reinvent the franchise. I just really
38:55
Speaker 3: appreciate like the darker, grittier tone to it. It's just
38:59
Speaker 3: very raw, brutal, and it's unfortunate obviously we probably didn't
39:05
Speaker 3: get the completed vision, you know that Jeffer set out
39:11
Speaker 3: to initially direct and you know, put out there. I
39:17
Speaker 3: like that it it feels so desolate, It feels so
39:21
Speaker 3: like far removed from society. You know. It's just you
39:28
Speaker 3: can feel the isolation of where this has taking place.
39:31
Speaker 3: And sometimes I didn't always feel like that, you know,
39:35
Speaker 3: with like Texas Chance Saw two, didn't feel super far
39:38
Speaker 3: removed from the city. You know, the iconic chainsaw that
39:44
Speaker 3: you get in this movie, it's obviously it looks completely
39:47
Speaker 3: different than what we've gotten before it, And I mean,
39:52
Speaker 3: how can you argue when the chainsaw itself has a
39:55
Speaker 3: saw As family carved into it.
40:01
Speaker 5: I rest my case, Yeah, Yeah, and of course you
40:08
Speaker 5: have this one position ahead of Texas chan Samasca at
40:13
Speaker 5: the beginning, so we have this place swapped. I have
40:16
Speaker 5: the beginning a number four, you have leatherface at number four.
40:24
Speaker 5: So the beginning, obviously I just had fresh eyes on
40:28
Speaker 5: thanks to the arrow.
40:29
Speaker 3: Yep.
40:29
Speaker 6: Okay, saw this movie. Saw this movie in theaters.
40:33
Speaker 5: I was like fifteen when it came out, maybe sixteen,
40:36
Speaker 5: depending on when that release date was. This this was
40:42
Speaker 5: a movie that I enjoyed, not in the same way
40:47
Speaker 5: that I enjoyed three. Jonathan Leebsman directed another movie that
40:52
Speaker 5: I really liked that people hate, called Darkness Falls.
40:56
Speaker 3: I remember that yep from early two thousands.
40:59
Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll be scared the shit out of me.
41:03
Speaker 3: You know.
41:03
Speaker 5: I think the beginning feels very connected. It feels the
41:08
Speaker 5: same world as O.
41:09
Speaker 3: Three.
41:09
Speaker 5: They really tried to capture that Daniel Pearl cinematography again.
41:13
Speaker 3: Sure, but.
41:17
Speaker 5: The beginning feels like the torture porn Texas Schanslaw massacre.
41:22
Speaker 3: Yep.
41:23
Speaker 5: You have the beginnings of are the Ermi's character of
41:28
Speaker 5: the sheriff or sheriff air quotes.
41:32
Speaker 6: You see how the father.
41:34
Speaker 5: Lost his legs in Texas Chansaw O three you kind
41:40
Speaker 5: of get the closing of the slaughter house, you know,
41:45
Speaker 5: and it it kind of fills in a lot of
41:49
Speaker 5: these like questions you might have had about how characters
41:52
Speaker 5: got there and oh three, did it need to know
41:58
Speaker 5: the characters I didn't hate, you know. I like the
42:03
Speaker 5: idea of their kind of heading back to go to Vietnam.
42:08
Speaker 5: One brother is a draft jumper. He's going to go
42:12
Speaker 5: to Mexico. The other brother doesn't know. I think it
42:13
Speaker 5: brings up a good little dynamic there, you of that
42:16
Speaker 5: sibling dynamic. And even two when when they are caught
42:21
Speaker 5: by the family, the one brother pretends that he's the
42:25
Speaker 5: draft jumper to kind of protect his brother, and it
42:27
Speaker 5: brings up like it is, it is good conflict to
42:30
Speaker 5: kind of bring up in good you know.
42:33
Speaker 3: Well, it's it's different plot lines that I don't think
42:37
Speaker 3: you see too often in horror films right, let alone
42:41
Speaker 3: in a Texas chainsaw film. I think it works in
42:46
Speaker 3: a great way that it kind of creates like more
42:50
Speaker 3: emotional depth, character development, you know. And this always felt
42:57
Speaker 3: like the companion piece to the three remake.
43:00
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think I think the gore is really effective,
43:07
Speaker 5: but it does lean much more into that torture. You know,
43:11
Speaker 5: you have the scene where the brother gets his head
43:13
Speaker 5: saran wrapped while he's hanging by his arms and the shed.
43:18
Speaker 5: I especially think the push up scene is fucked up
43:21
Speaker 5: when he says like, oh, you can go and then
43:23
Speaker 5: breaks his spine, you know, tells him like all right,
43:27
Speaker 5: you're you're free to go, and now you can't go.
43:30
Speaker 3: It's more, it's more means spirited, I feel like, you know,
43:35
Speaker 3: and definitely riding the wave of movies that we had
43:40
Speaker 3: coming out around that same time. So it would have
43:42
Speaker 3: been not too far removed from like you know what
43:45
Speaker 3: I mean, Hostel would have been out around the same.
43:47
Speaker 6: Time or a year before twenty and five, yep.
43:52
Speaker 3: So you know, we got a wave of that in
43:55
Speaker 3: the early to mid two thousands, and it definitely feels
44:01
Speaker 3: like this leans more into that. I think that that's
44:03
Speaker 3: a little bit why I don't have higher you know,
44:08
Speaker 3: I can appreciate that obviously, if we're going to be
44:11
Speaker 3: choosing this origin over leather Face, I would take this
44:16
Speaker 3: one hundred times over. But there's times where I just
44:23
Speaker 3: as much as I enjoy gore and horror films, this
44:28
Speaker 3: feels like it's leaning a little bit too heavy on
44:31
Speaker 3: it more for the shock value.
44:33
Speaker 5: Especially with like the death, like cutting off the legs
44:36
Speaker 5: you know, of the fire.
44:38
Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't need the backstory on that. Like
44:43
Speaker 3: I remember seeing that in theaters and I was like, okay, well, yeah,
44:49
Speaker 3: I have closure now.
44:50
Speaker 5: Yeah, like the idea of like, oh, we got to
44:53
Speaker 5: balance them out, so we'll cut off the other.
44:55
Speaker 3: Leg you know, of course you got to make sure
44:57
Speaker 3: they're even.
44:59
Speaker 6: Yeah.
44:59
Speaker 5: I mean Andrew Bernarski is that hey say his last name?
45:05
Speaker 5: He returns to play leatherface in this one, and he's great,
45:10
Speaker 5: just like he was in Texas Chaninsaw.
45:11
Speaker 6: Oh three. It feels like are the Army sheriff character is.
45:16
Speaker 5: Kind of in the front in the forefront, yes, of
45:18
Speaker 5: this movie, much much more so, you know, the bikers
45:22
Speaker 5: kind of felt pointless, you know what I mean? Yeah,
45:28
Speaker 5: I think I can. I think I can shift my
45:31
Speaker 5: ranking here to agree with you, So.
45:33
Speaker 3: Why don't can Can I just point out one other
45:37
Speaker 3: thing about each film, And one thing that I really
45:39
Speaker 3: appreciate is for for Texas Chainsaw the beginning, we have
45:48
Speaker 3: composer Steve Jablon Scheme. Yeah, he has been responsible for
45:53
Speaker 3: a lot of the scores that were coming out around
45:55
Speaker 3: this time. So he was the one who composed the
45:58
Speaker 3: score for the three remake. He also did it for
46:02
Speaker 3: this film, and then I believe he also did it
46:06
Speaker 3: for Yep.
46:09
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was because La La Land Records just released
46:15
Speaker 5: Michael Bays of the Island and expanded to very Cool
46:19
Speaker 5: and then a great one from him.
46:22
Speaker 3: Yep, yep. And now I will say, on the other
46:25
Speaker 3: side of things, I don't know if you've ever seen
46:28
Speaker 3: the trailer for leather Faced, Texas Chainsaw Massacre three, but
46:35
Speaker 3: can we spotlight how insanely awesome that trailer is.
46:42
Speaker 5: We'll have to post it on the Instagram.
46:45
Speaker 3: We will. I want everyone to see and acknowledge just
46:48
Speaker 3: how great this trailer is. This is went back when
46:50
Speaker 3: marketing there was a little bit more thought put into it.
46:52
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll post that over on the Instagram
46:56
Speaker 5: because I've never seen it.
46:58
Speaker 3: Oh, it's incredible. Just wait, it might this might push
47:01
Speaker 3: it up the rankings for you.
47:02
Speaker 6: Oh well, here we go.
47:05
Speaker 5: So so far we have number nine leather Face, number
47:09
Speaker 5: eight texta Chainsaw three D number seven texta Chainsaw. I
47:12
Speaker 5: just put the Netflix's proper title.
47:16
Speaker 3: That sounds about right.
47:17
Speaker 5: We have number six Textra Chans at the beginning number
47:20
Speaker 5: our next generation number five, the beginning number four. Leather
47:25
Speaker 5: Face Texas Chancel mascar three. You know your franchise is
47:28
Speaker 5: fucked up when you have two leather Face titled movies.
47:33
Speaker 5: From this point on, it should be pretty easy because
47:36
Speaker 5: we share the top three.
47:39
Speaker 6: Steve, give everyone your thoughts on on.
47:43
Speaker 5: On Marcus ne Spells the Texas Chainsaw Mascer three remake
47:47
Speaker 5: that's at number three.
47:49
Speaker 3: So I saw this movie very early on when I
47:53
Speaker 3: was getting at a horror around the same time that
47:55
Speaker 3: I saw Cheapers Creepers, and I did a double feature
48:00
Speaker 3: of the original and this one, and obviously the original.
48:08
Speaker 3: It's it's iconic. There's it's a film that gets like
48:14
Speaker 3: the highest praise from me, but we obviously knowing that
48:17
Speaker 3: it's more implied Gore if you will, for that film
48:24
Speaker 3: compared to this, and this actually follows through with it
48:27
Speaker 3: and you get an abundance of Gore kills. It's definitely
48:34
Speaker 3: honoring the spirit of the original film, but pushes it
48:38
Speaker 3: deeper into I feel like the atmosphere, the dread that
48:41
Speaker 3: comes with it. Yeah, it man, I don't know. It's
48:48
Speaker 3: same cinematographer Daniel Pearl comes back for this film.
48:51
Speaker 5: Dude, Daniel Pearl coming back for this is incredible, Like
48:55
Speaker 5: and he actually he worked with Marcus's Bell like he
49:01
Speaker 5: was Marcus the Spell's go to cinematographer for hundreds of
49:06
Speaker 5: music videos that this that The Spell directed before getting
49:09
Speaker 5: this opportunity, So there was a long working relationship between
49:12
Speaker 5: Daniel Pearl and him going into this one.
49:15
Speaker 3: It's it's a film that time has really been kind
49:22
Speaker 3: to it. I love that Daniel Pearl didn't set out
49:28
Speaker 3: to recapture the same look that he you know, obviously
49:32
Speaker 3: had for such an iconic horror movie, but did his
49:36
Speaker 3: own thing on this and I think for that it
49:39
Speaker 3: stands out on its own. The character, the group of
49:42
Speaker 3: like teenagers are yeah I think they're teenagers. Yeah, they
49:45
Speaker 3: were following young adults. Yeah, young adults, I would say,
49:51
Speaker 3: very compelling. And it just works. Man. I mean when
49:57
Speaker 3: I go back to this decade and I think of
49:59
Speaker 3: like some of the highlights from this time, this is
50:02
Speaker 3: definitely one of them.
50:04
Speaker 6: Yeah.
50:05
Speaker 5: I mean, like you can see you could see a
50:10
Speaker 5: lot of similar DNA with Daniel Pearl all over the movie,
50:14
Speaker 5: Like you know you can it doesn't it's not gonna
50:17
Speaker 5: take you. If you're you know, base level horror knowledge.
50:20
Speaker 5: I think you can really see the same visual style
50:25
Speaker 5: going in and out, you know what I mean?
50:26
Speaker 3: For sure?
50:29
Speaker 5: I think this movie just takes everything I love and
50:34
Speaker 5: it amplifies it. It expels, it makes it louder, it
50:38
Speaker 5: makes it bigger, makes it a little grosser, but it
50:42
Speaker 5: kind of knows where the ceiling is at keeps it there.
50:46
Speaker 5: Because this is another example of me being young when
50:49
Speaker 5: I saw this. I was thirteen when this movie came out,
50:53
Speaker 5: and I thought this movie was much more violent than
50:55
Speaker 5: it actually is.
50:56
Speaker 6: It has some.
50:57
Speaker 5: Gross moments, but again, like the original, I thought it
51:02
Speaker 5: was more like it could have gone much further than
51:05
Speaker 5: it does.
51:06
Speaker 3: And that's why I feel like this one gets ranked
51:10
Speaker 3: higher is because it toes that line between obviously being
51:15
Speaker 3: more violent than the original, more graphic, more gory than
51:18
Speaker 3: the original, but it's also not doing it in the
51:21
Speaker 3: way that's like just for the sake of shock value.
51:24
Speaker 3: That's where when I revisited the beginning is where I
51:29
Speaker 3: felt like it kind of teetered a little bit over
51:32
Speaker 3: that with some of like the mean spirited kills and
51:36
Speaker 3: the gore just for the sake of just being just
51:40
Speaker 3: graphic about it.
51:42
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, leather for Andrew Bnarsky's massive in this movie,
51:47
Speaker 5: Like he is incredibly intimidating.
51:51
Speaker 6: I like.
51:54
Speaker 5: Kind of the introduction of our the Army's character. We
51:57
Speaker 5: didn't have the backstory.
51:58
Speaker 3: Then, correct, Yep, you know.
52:01
Speaker 5: I like the bringing in the different family, Like, yeah,
52:06
Speaker 5: I think it's like the ants that live in the
52:08
Speaker 5: trailer and or the front, you know, they kind of.
52:11
Speaker 3: And it feels like a compound like that, because yeah,
52:15
Speaker 3: it kind of feels like this is like their town.
52:17
Speaker 5: You know, they're all kind of spread out a little bit,
52:19
Speaker 5: but they're all here.
52:21
Speaker 6: You know.
52:21
Speaker 5: We don't get a dinner scene, which I think works.
52:24
Speaker 5: I have never I watched a review of this movie
52:29
Speaker 5: when a when Aero four K like first initially dropped,
52:33
Speaker 5: and the person who I was watching had mentioned that
52:38
Speaker 5: he thought it was a big miss to not have
52:40
Speaker 5: a dinner scene in Texas. Shanesonmasker three, I never thought
52:46
Speaker 5: about it. No, I didn't even realize up until that
52:49
Speaker 5: point that there wasn't because the movie just flowed so well.
52:53
Speaker 5: I never went, oh wow, I really miss that.
52:56
Speaker 3: Well, I would argue that instead again, the dinner scene
52:59
Speaker 3: you get the slaughterhouse chase, and that I feel like
53:03
Speaker 3: it in a way really captures just how expansive their
53:10
Speaker 3: property is, and we never really got I mean, we
53:14
Speaker 3: had like the glimpses of the slaughterhouse in the original,
53:18
Speaker 3: but I like that they found a way to incorporate
53:20
Speaker 3: that into the O three remake. My only gripe with
53:24
Speaker 3: this movie because I feel like it limited what they
53:28
Speaker 3: could have done off of this movie was the fact
53:32
Speaker 3: that Leatherface loses an arm. It just felt like you
53:37
Speaker 3: backed yourself into a corner. Now, all these years later,
53:42
Speaker 3: obviously we didn't really I mean, we got a prequel
53:44
Speaker 3: out of this, but we didn't get a direct sequel
53:46
Speaker 3: to it. So it would have been interesting to see
53:50
Speaker 3: if they had actually explored that or maybe continue the story.
53:54
Speaker 3: But since we're judging the standalone on its own, with
53:59
Speaker 3: the beginning serving as a prequel, it's one minor h
54:05
Speaker 3: complaint in the grander scope of things.
54:09
Speaker 5: Yeah, TCMO three is genuinely I think it's one of
54:13
Speaker 5: the it's it's in the top six best remakes of
54:19
Speaker 5: all time. It it was it feels so loyal and faithful,
54:28
Speaker 5: which is hilarious considering Daniel Pearl didn't watch Texas Chancel
54:32
Speaker 5: Maasker when he accepted this job.
54:38
Speaker 6: I just really like this.
54:40
Speaker 5: Movie and and this absolutely could be a generational thing
54:42
Speaker 5: at the time that we saw it.
54:44
Speaker 3: Wait, are you talking about Daniel Pearl or Marcus the Spell.
54:47
Speaker 6: Marcus de Spell?
54:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I remember, I remember he wasn't He wasn't
54:51
Speaker 3: like I know that he Marcus a Spell. I don't
54:55
Speaker 3: think really had any attachment to the film original.
54:58
Speaker 5: No, he didn't, which is probably for the better. Yeah,
55:00
Speaker 5: you know, worked out for the better. I wish he
55:03
Speaker 5: had watched them more Friday the Thirteenth movies before making nine,
55:06
Speaker 5: but that's a different, you know, conversation. Yeah, I love
55:11
Speaker 5: oh three, So I'm very happy with this placement. I
55:14
Speaker 5: do think it's the third best of the franchise. We
55:18
Speaker 5: both also share a love for our second choice, which
55:21
Speaker 5: is Toby Hooper's the textas Chance I'masker too, and that
55:25
Speaker 5: incredible breakfast club poker they did. I mentioned earlier that
55:33
Speaker 5: text Chance of Masker two to me, I never used
55:36
Speaker 5: to love now I do. What do you say about
55:43
Speaker 5: part two? Like, how do you It's it's so batshit
55:51
Speaker 5: in in every single way. That you're not anticipating going
55:56
Speaker 5: into it.
55:58
Speaker 3: You have.
56:00
Speaker 5: Chop Top Bill Moseley' chop Top, which is incredible. My
56:03
Speaker 5: favorite running bit of his is the hangar picking off
56:07
Speaker 5: pieces of the skin around his chrome plate.
56:11
Speaker 6: Oh you dene in my plate.
56:13
Speaker 3: I fucking love this movie. We talk about it way
56:16
Speaker 3: more than we probably should, or at least I know I do. Yeah,
56:19
Speaker 3: I adore this movie, and it's because it is in
56:24
Speaker 3: my mind. You have Return of the Living Dead and
56:30
Speaker 3: Evil Dead too, and I put this in the conversation
56:34
Speaker 3: as some of the best horror comedies that came out
56:37
Speaker 3: around this time. I still think that that's the case.
56:42
Speaker 3: This movie is over the top. It knows what it is.
56:47
Speaker 3: It wasn't trying to just be a continuation of the
56:51
Speaker 3: first movie in tone.
56:54
Speaker 6: It takes some boof of the first movie in a way.
56:56
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, takes some big swings on this.
56:59
Speaker 5: Yeah, because it still has like everything gets bigger, like
57:03
Speaker 5: the chainsaw Lotherface's chainsaw gets bigger. You have Dennis Hopper's character,
57:09
Speaker 5: I mean the scene when he's when he's outside of
57:12
Speaker 5: the hardware store, hit in the wood with the with
57:16
Speaker 5: the chainsaw, and then you have the owner who's practically
57:18
Speaker 5: having like an orgasm over the way of power with
57:22
Speaker 5: the chainsaws. It's fucking nuts, dude, Like, it is so nuts.
57:27
Speaker 3: It's I laugh. I don't care how many times I've
57:31
Speaker 3: seen this movie. I laugh so hard every time that
57:34
Speaker 3: scene happens. And when the Leatherface has the chainsaw and
57:40
Speaker 3: he's thrusting the chainsaw at Carolina Williams character in the movie,
57:47
Speaker 3: it's just I just think it's hysterical. Yeah, it's over
57:53
Speaker 3: the top. There's a lot of satire in this movie.
57:57
Speaker 3: There's definitely some moments that are very terrifying, but it's
58:04
Speaker 3: just it's in excess. There's just so much excess in
58:07
Speaker 3: this movie. The outrageous gore effects you get from Tom Savini,
58:11
Speaker 3: the performances across the board are just so memorable. You
58:15
Speaker 3: get Dennis Hopper, Bill Mosley, Caroline Williams. It embraces the
58:20
Speaker 3: chaotic energy of the Sawyer family, and it's obviously blending
58:25
Speaker 3: horror and humor in a way that feels shocking obviously
58:31
Speaker 3: if you are watching the first one and it's leading
58:34
Speaker 3: into this one. But it feels very ahead of its time.
58:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, there's genuinely some like the jump scare
58:40
Speaker 5: at the when Leatherface comes out of the vinyl.
58:43
Speaker 3: Room the radio station.
58:44
Speaker 5: At the radio station gets me every time. It just
58:48
Speaker 5: feels like you have I think the best example is
58:50
Speaker 5: in the first movie You Have, You Have the the
58:54
Speaker 5: hammer hit right the door yep opens. You gets hit
58:57
Speaker 5: over the head of the hammer. He falls to the ground.
58:59
Speaker 5: He's gonna gets pulled in. In this movie, you have
59:02
Speaker 5: a character who gets killed by a hammer again, but
59:04
Speaker 5: he gets hit like one hundred and fifty times.
59:08
Speaker 6: This poor guy, Like it's gory.
59:10
Speaker 5: It just keeps going and keeps going and keeps going,
59:13
Speaker 5: and it keeps cutting to it, and this guy just
59:15
Speaker 5: won't die and chop Tops is hitting them over and
59:18
Speaker 5: over and it's like it goes on for so long
59:22
Speaker 5: you're like, okay, all right, well, and it.
59:25
Speaker 3: Feels like a fever dream. A lot of this movie
59:27
Speaker 3: feels like a fever dream. It's chaotic.
59:30
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're staying in like the what is that that
59:32
Speaker 5: they're staying in. It's like an old theme park.
59:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like an amusement park. They're like underground and
59:42
Speaker 3: you know, just I mean the opening scene, there's those
59:48
Speaker 3: callers that are calling into the radio station the characters
59:52
Speaker 3: are like out of their mind. It just feels like
59:56
Speaker 3: charactertures of like normal people and and they're driving and
1:00:02
Speaker 3: then you get leather Face that does like a dry
1:00:04
Speaker 3: by you know, chainsaw attack.
1:00:06
Speaker 6: He live in front of him, Like, I'm like, what
1:00:09
Speaker 6: is going on?
1:00:11
Speaker 5: Like, you know, that's the fact that a whole movie though,
1:00:14
Speaker 5: is the head that gets solid.
1:00:17
Speaker 3: Oh, It's it's gnarly. And you know you have Dennis
1:00:22
Speaker 3: Hopper's character coming back to get revenge for you know,
1:00:28
Speaker 3: Franklin essentially. Yeah, it's I don't know, I just love
1:00:35
Speaker 3: this movie. I I talk about it way more than
1:00:37
Speaker 3: I should.
1:00:39
Speaker 5: It's old Man returns and he's like his introduction is
1:00:43
Speaker 5: he wins the chili.
1:00:46
Speaker 3: Oh's the peppercorns?
1:00:48
Speaker 2: Yeah?
1:00:48
Speaker 5: Yeah, And he's in a van freaking out because she's
1:00:52
Speaker 5: playing the the recording over the radio.
1:00:56
Speaker 6: It's out of control. Dude.
1:00:58
Speaker 5: It's like, it's it's so nuts, man, It's it just
1:01:03
Speaker 5: it's it's so interesting in the conversation of sequels to
1:01:06
Speaker 5: like compare TCM one and two, it's it's kind of
1:01:10
Speaker 5: unbelievable unless you sit down and really watch them.
1:01:13
Speaker 3: You know. The score by Jerry Lambert definitely elevates that chaotic,
1:01:19
Speaker 3: like wild energy that you're getting in this movie. You know,
1:01:24
Speaker 3: I was joking about it earlier when we started the episode,
1:01:27
Speaker 3: but Dennis Hopper, you know, just yelling I'm the Lord
1:01:32
Speaker 3: of the Harvest, Like, what are you talking about?
1:01:37
Speaker 5: And it's like a It's like its own amusement park.
1:01:39
Speaker 5: Once you get underground.
1:01:40
Speaker 6: The set design is it's like a labyrinth.
1:01:43
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's so good Man and him just running around destroying,
1:01:48
Speaker 5: destroying the place, knocking down all the all the polls.
1:01:52
Speaker 5: He's got the chainsaw, and then you have the leather
1:01:54
Speaker 5: face fight on top of the table with him. He's
1:01:56
Speaker 5: dual wielding chainsaws and god, you have the old man
1:02:02
Speaker 5: who pulls out the grenade, and then it goes nowhere.
1:02:04
Speaker 5: It doesn't show you what happened. He got old what
1:02:07
Speaker 5: do you call like old faithful or a backup plan.
1:02:09
Speaker 3: Yeah. The ending stretch, Caroline Williams character is at the
1:02:17
Speaker 3: top of the mountain, you know, doing the chainsaw dance.
1:02:21
Speaker 3: I'm like, and then it ends.
1:02:22
Speaker 5: It just ends. Yeah, there's no It literally just ends.
1:02:27
Speaker 5: There's no resolution of anything else.
1:02:29
Speaker 6: It just.
1:02:31
Speaker 3: This is why I love this movie so much, and
1:02:34
Speaker 3: it sounds bad there's there's I have a legitimate internal
1:02:39
Speaker 3: conflict sometimes of which I love more the original or this,
1:02:44
Speaker 3: because obviously the the original is like a iconic horror movie.
1:02:51
Speaker 3: But I think what I appreciate about this movie so
1:02:53
Speaker 3: much is that it takes some huge swings. Yeah, and
1:02:58
Speaker 3: I don't know, there's sometimes I car I can throw
1:03:01
Speaker 3: this on whenever I can rewatch this movie, whenever TCM
1:03:04
Speaker 3: the original. I really have to be in like the
1:03:07
Speaker 3: right mood for it.
1:03:09
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think that's clearly leading into number one
1:03:13
Speaker 5: being Texas Change some MASCAR. I don't want to go
1:03:15
Speaker 5: into anything too extensive on that. I would certainly point
1:03:19
Speaker 5: anybody listening if you haven't, to go back just a
1:03:23
Speaker 5: couple episodes ago and watch or listen to our Texas
1:03:29
Speaker 5: CHANGEOASCAR episode where we dissect the commentary track from the
1:03:33
Speaker 5: ninety six laser disc. We go into depth into our
1:03:36
Speaker 5: love for this movie and everything that we love. It's
1:03:38
Speaker 5: a it's a good episode, I think, to get our
1:03:41
Speaker 5: full thoughts on it, you know, going into this ranking,
1:03:45
Speaker 5: I kind of when you send me yours, I was like, oh,
1:03:48
Speaker 5: top half of this is going to be easy. We
1:03:51
Speaker 5: agree and textas chains of masker and text Shaangs and
1:03:53
Speaker 5: masker two are like, you know, millimeters apart.
1:03:57
Speaker 6: It's a very there's like tough. If there was like
1:04:00
Speaker 6: a physical.
1:04:01
Speaker 5: Positioning of ranking, they would be like touching tips, you
1:04:03
Speaker 5: know what I mean. That's how close they are.
1:04:06
Speaker 3: Chainsaw the chainsaw.
1:04:10
Speaker 5: So let's go over the official beyond the blood TCM ranking.
1:04:14
Speaker 5: Here at number nine we have leather Face number eight,
1:04:18
Speaker 5: Texas Chainsaw three d number seven, Texas Chainsaw masker.
1:04:22
Speaker 6: The Netflix.
1:04:25
Speaker 5: Uh six, Texas hans some masker of the next generation,
1:04:29
Speaker 5: five Textas chains some mascar at the beginning, I'm really
1:04:32
Speaker 5: tired of saying Texas chainsa masker.
1:04:34
Speaker 6: Number four.
1:04:35
Speaker 5: We have leather Face TCM three. Number three, we have
1:04:40
Speaker 5: Marcus the Spells TCM three and then texta Chainsaw masker too,
1:04:44
Speaker 5: and of course the Texas Chainsaw Masker sitting firm at
1:04:48
Speaker 5: number one. What a month man covering Texas Chainsaw Masker.
1:04:53
Speaker 5: It's been a blast now that we're going into September.
1:04:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was a fun. We got to
1:05:02
Speaker 3: really cover such a beloved film, first and foremost for
1:05:05
Speaker 3: the seventy four original. Got to go at nauseum on
1:05:11
Speaker 3: it in the best way possible. We really got to
1:05:13
Speaker 3: do our deep dive on the film, and it felt
1:05:16
Speaker 3: like it was so appropriate for this time of year.
1:05:19
Speaker 3: And I know that this had been in the works
1:05:23
Speaker 3: for a little bit. We had been going back and
1:05:24
Speaker 3: forth and trying to like hammer out the ranking episode.
1:05:27
Speaker 3: But I'm so glad we did this because it gave
1:05:30
Speaker 3: me an excuse to go back and revisit some of
1:05:32
Speaker 3: the sequels and really try to get that, at least
1:05:37
Speaker 3: for myself, a definitive ranking of you know, where I
1:05:40
Speaker 3: place all of them.
1:05:42
Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, and I think too, like, we have
1:05:45
Speaker 5: so much cool stuff coming up, and we've been really busy.
1:05:48
Speaker 5: There's we've recorded what three or four episodes interviews that
1:05:54
Speaker 5: haven't even come out yet, So we've been busy as
1:05:57
Speaker 5: far as recording and kind of create.
1:05:58
Speaker 3: Got more stuff coming up too.
1:06:00
Speaker 6: It's so much.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's so much that that you guys as listeners
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Speaker 5: don't even know yet, stuff that we're kind of planning
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Speaker 5: and figuring out. But going into September, we have this episode.
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Speaker 5: You're gonna be listening this if you're listening to some
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Speaker 5: day one on Tuesday. On Friday, we're dropping a surprise interview.
1:06:18
Speaker 5: So I'm not gonna spoil that on here, but then
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Speaker 5: a week after that, we're gonna be doing our main
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Speaker 5: episode for the month. We actually have two main episodes
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Speaker 5: for the month. Or we're gonna be covering Rob Zombies
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Speaker 5: the Devil's Rejects. We're gonna be kind of tearing apart
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Speaker 5: the audio commentary from the two thousand and six DVD release.
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Speaker 5: With Rob Zombie, We're gonna have Brian on from Last
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Speaker 5: Movie Standing. If you've been listening for a long time,
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Speaker 5: he was our guest on House of a Thousand Corpses
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Speaker 5: at the beginning of the year, so we're gonna have
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Speaker 5: Brian back on for that. We're also doing a bonus
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Speaker 5: commentary episode where we're gonna be talking about nineteen ninety
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Speaker 5: one's Popcorn.
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Speaker 3: I'm excited for that.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and my wife's going to be on for that,
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Speaker 5: which is one hundred times more exciting. So very very
1:07:09
Speaker 5: stoked for that. I encourage everyone to. We've been posting
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Speaker 5: a ton on the Beyond the Blood Instagram page if
1:07:18
Speaker 5: you follow us over there. We just announced our partnership
1:07:21
Speaker 5: with encycl Apocalypse Publications. We're going to be doing some
1:07:26
Speaker 5: work with them as far as promoting and marketing and
1:07:29
Speaker 5: discussing their novelizations and stuff that they're putting out. We
1:07:34
Speaker 5: just announced that in October we're going to be covering
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Speaker 5: sleep Away Camp, so we are going to be diving
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Speaker 5: into the commentary like we do on our main episodes,
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Speaker 5: but throughout that we're going to be discussing some differences
1:07:47
Speaker 5: with the new novelization that just came out this week.
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Speaker 5: Thank you to encycle Apocalypse for that. Thank you to Yeah,
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Speaker 5: thank you Mark the owner over there, for being absolutely incredible.
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Speaker 5: We can't wait to, you know, to get that out
1:08:01
Speaker 5: for everyone to hear, and we hope that you supporting
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Speaker 5: Psycho Apocalypse by picking up their work. They do absolutely
1:08:07
Speaker 5: incredible stuff. What else is going on September? We also
1:08:10
Speaker 5: have after Hours. It's our first after hours episode officially
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Speaker 5: sponsored by the Movie Room. We're gonna be talking about
1:08:19
Speaker 5: some terror vision with the Shoe String Slasher's box set,
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Speaker 5: the Volume one set.
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Speaker 3: I'm so pumped for that.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, So that's coming as well as a couple of interviews.
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Speaker 5: It's really we're jam packed here at the end of
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Speaker 5: this year. We're really trying to end it all, you know,
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Speaker 5: with a with a bang and a scream.
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Speaker 3: You know, I like the scream part.
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Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems the more appropriate.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you, thank you. Thanks for hanging out again, Steve.
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Speaker 5: Where can people find you?
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Speaker 3: You guys can find me after ours video. I'm on YouTube, Instagram, TikTok,
1:08:51
Speaker 3: I'm all over the place.
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Speaker 5: Yeah you, Chris, I'm at a bearded film guy on Instagram.
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Speaker 5: Do us a favor, like, let us your TCM ranking.
1:09:01
Speaker 5: We'd love to kind of share that. Talk about that,
1:09:04
Speaker 5: we'll share it over on the Instagram page.
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Speaker 3: Or even collaborating with us. If you guys happen to
1:09:10
Speaker 3: go back with some of our older episodes, you guys
1:09:13
Speaker 3: want to do a post, feel free to collab with
1:09:16
Speaker 3: us on our social media, especially on Instagram.
1:09:19
Speaker 5: Yeah, if anybody's listening to this, if you ever post
1:09:21
Speaker 5: anything that we're going to be covering, just make sure
1:09:23
Speaker 5: to collaborate the Beyond the Blood page and we'll make
1:09:25
Speaker 5: sure that we get that out to our audiences as well. So, yeah,
1:09:31
Speaker 5: thank you. I hope everybody has a good Labor day.
1:09:32
Speaker 5: We're recording this on a holiday, but yeah, we'll see
1:09:36
Speaker 5: you guys on the next episode when we're chatting about
1:09:38
Speaker 5: Devil's rejects, see you guys on the next one.
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