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Sharri | 10 February · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Live on Sky News. This is Sharry.
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Speaker 2: Good evening. Welcome Well.
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Speaker 3: I have a big announcement to make on the show tonight,
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Speaker 3: so stay tuned for that. It's coming up. Also tonight,
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Speaker 3: the writings on the Wall for alban Easy Labor now
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Speaker 3: panicking that they're facing a major defeat. James Patterson, Steve
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Speaker 3: Price and Cameron Milner will all be on. Plus Israel's
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Speaker 3: hostages reminiscent of starved Holocaust survivors, yet the United Nations
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Speaker 3: keeps looking the other way. More on this in a moment,
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Speaker 3: and Alex Rifchin will be on live. And Trump's executive
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Speaker 3: order banning paper straws. This could be my favorite presidential
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Speaker 3: move yet and I'll tell you why a bit later,
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Speaker 3: But first tonight, there are strong signs now that Albin
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Speaker 3: Ezy is heading for a major defeat at the federal election.
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Speaker 3: New political polling and the Victorian by elections appointing to
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Speaker 3: a shocking loss for Labor. In my view, the best
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Speaker 3: Albaneze can hope for. The best is a minority government,
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Speaker 3: but a major loss is a live possibility. In the
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Speaker 3: by election in the Victorian seat of Werribe on the weekend,
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Speaker 3: there was a massive sixteen percent swing against Labor. In fact,
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Speaker 3: Labour's primary vote in Werribe was the lowest at any
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Speaker 3: Victorian by election in the state's history, and the Liberals
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Speaker 3: picked up the seat of Piran from the Greens, breaking
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Speaker 3: an eleven year Green streak. The Liberal primary was thirty
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Speaker 3: six point two percent and two party preferred was fifty
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Speaker 3: one point six The new Liberal MP, Rachel Westaway, said
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Speaker 3: one of the reasons for her win was her focus
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Speaker 3: on rising crime.
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Speaker 4: People are feeling unsafe, people running down.
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Speaker 5: The street of Chapel Street with the Mashitti.
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Speaker 6: To five bombings, to work fire bombing of a local synagogue.
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Speaker 7: These are outrageous things that we haven't seen before, in
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Speaker 7: a consistency that we've never seen before, and we've just
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Speaker 7: got to get on top of it.
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Speaker 8: Well.
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Speaker 3: With homeless tents on Chapel Street and rising crime, inner
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Speaker 3: city Melbourne is becoming kind of like in Minisan Francisco.
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Speaker 3: Adam Bound's seat of Melbourne covers much the same area
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Speaker 3: as Piran and with any luck, we'd see him lose
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Speaker 3: his job at the federal election. Now, while Labour didn't
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Speaker 3: run a candidate in the seat, the party does rely
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Speaker 3: on the Green's preferences in many seats, and it would
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Speaker 3: need the support of the Greens in the case of
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Speaker 3: a hung parliament. Now, the top three issues that saw
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Speaker 3: the Liberals win in this formerly safe Green seat were
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Speaker 3: cost of living, crime and housing. So yes, it's a
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Speaker 3: state by election, but the riding is on the wall
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Speaker 3: for Labor and thankfully for the Greens as well. Question
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Speaker 3: Albanezi will be looking at these results and panicking. His
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Speaker 3: ministers on Breakfast TV today certainly indicated that they were worried.
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Speaker 4: We know that people have been under a lot of
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Speaker 4: cost of living pressure and that's how we're one hundred
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Speaker 4: percent focused. Well, of course you pay attention, but I
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Speaker 4: think one of the interesting things about this result is
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Speaker 4: that there was a significant drop in the Labor vote,
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Speaker 4: most of it didn't go to the Liberals.
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Speaker 7: I think we'd known, regardless of what happens in a
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Speaker 7: state by election, that this election is going to be
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Speaker 7: really close. I think that's pretty clear. We take nothing
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Speaker 7: for granted. We've got to continue to talk and address
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Speaker 7: people's cost of living needs.
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Speaker 3: And Labour's own. From a Victorian campaign chief Cosamaris said
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Speaker 3: Labour's red wall in Melbourne's western suburbs has now crumbled
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Speaker 3: and he said it's now a red barb wire offence.
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Speaker 9: It is easily the last PRIMI vote recorded by Glabor
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Speaker 9: Party and this is part of Melbourne well in Victoria's
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Speaker 9: electoral history.
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Speaker 3: Now at a federal level, I can tell you Peter
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Speaker 3: Dutton is hoping to pick up five seats in Victoria.
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Speaker 3: These include Aston, McEwen, Chisholm, Dunkley and Krangamite. And Dutton
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Speaker 3: also has a chance in both Teal seats of Couyong
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Speaker 3: and Goldstein. Now, aside from the results on the weekend,
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Speaker 3: there's also Redbridge polling that shows voters and outer suburban
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Speaker 3: seats are turning against the Prime minister. The survey shows
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Speaker 3: the coalition is a head of Labour by fifty one
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Speaker 3: and a half to forty eight and a half percent
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Speaker 3: on a two pp basis, and it shows that Albanese's
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Speaker 3: primary support has dropped to twenty seven percent in the suburbs,
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Speaker 3: while Dutton's primary has lifted to forty six percent. Redbridge
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Speaker 3: director Tony Barry also pointed out that the other big
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Speaker 3: risk for Albanezi is Victoria, where he says the bottom
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Speaker 3: is falling out of Labour's vote Now the hard truth
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Speaker 3: is that for many Australians life is much tougher since
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Speaker 3: the Albanese government came to office. Albanese's central attack line
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Speaker 3: against Scott Morrison was that he was to blame for
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Speaker 3: the cost of living crisis. He blamed Morrison for one
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Speaker 3: interst rate rise. Yet there's been twelve interrastrate rises under
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Speaker 3: the Albanese government. Now I'm not saying that that is
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Speaker 3: entirely the fault of the Albanese government, but Albanezi blamed
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Speaker 3: Morrison for the first rate rise, so surely he should
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Speaker 3: now accept responsibility for the twelve sins. And in terms
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Speaker 3: of national security, well, life was safe for all of
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Speaker 3: us when Morrison was Prime Minister, and now life in Australia,
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Speaker 3: particularly for the Jewish community, is unrecognizable.
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Speaker 2: We've had dozens of.
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Speaker 3: Incidents a violent crime in Melbourne and Sydney the premiers
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Speaker 3: and police admit are basically terror incidents, even if the
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Speaker 3: police refused to technically classify them as such. Now, even
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Speaker 3: as we were horrified as all of this violent crime
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Speaker 3: was unfolding, alban Easy government ministers preferred to speak about Islamophobia.
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Speaker 9: And some of the anti Semitism and is Limophobia that
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Speaker 9: I have seen is really not in keeping with who
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Speaker 9: we are or who we should have sparked.
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Speaker 10: Be sorry.
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Speaker 11: So should we turn a blind eye to Islamophobia? Is
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Speaker 11: that what the coalition's saying.
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Speaker 1: If James Patterson thinks he's no as Lamophobia in Australia,
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Speaker 1: he's wrong.
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Speaker 9: He didn't say that, though, he said that when something happens,
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Speaker 9: it should be enough to just denounce.
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Speaker 2: And we went on to say that they're not at
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Speaker 2: the same levels.
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Speaker 3: So with all all of this, a crippling cost of
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Speaker 3: living crisis and a devastating national security situation, it's hardly
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Speaker 3: surprising that voters are punishing Alban easy and he deserves
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Speaker 3: every bit of the political backlash that's heading his way.
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Speaker 3: Now we know well the photographs of emaciated men and
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Speaker 3: women after the Holocaust, those who survived the concentration camps
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Speaker 3: were skeletal, hollowed cheeks weighing thirty sothter kilograms after starvation
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Speaker 3: for years.
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Speaker 2: And years and years.
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Speaker 3: These images have always shocked all of us, shaken us,
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Speaker 3: made us say never again. And yet on the weekend
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Speaker 3: we saw precisely the same starvation of Jewish hostages repeated
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Speaker 3: again three fathers were finally returned to Israel, but they
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Speaker 3: were a shadow of their former selves. Ohad Benami went
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Speaker 3: from this to this, or Levy from this healthy looking
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Speaker 3: man to this skeletal figure, and Eli Sharrabi also unrecognizable.
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Speaker 3: Now I have to say, this is twenty twenty five,
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Speaker 3: not nineteen forty five. And President Donald Trump said, what
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Speaker 3: we are all thinking that these poor men look like
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Speaker 3: Holocaust survivors.
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Speaker 12: People that were healthy people a reasonably short number of
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Speaker 12: years ago, and you look at them today, they look
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Speaker 12: like they've aged twenty five years. They literally look like
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Speaker 12: the old pictures of Holocaust survivors, the same thing, I
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Speaker 12: mean the same thing. And I don't know how long
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Speaker 12: we're going to take that.
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Speaker 3: The United Nations has, without cause, continually accused Israel of
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Speaker 3: war crimes. Well, Antonio Guterres, you can't look away from this.
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Speaker 3: This is what a war crime looks like. This is kidnapping, starvation, torture.
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Speaker 2: And cruelty. And what cruelty it is.
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Speaker 3: Eli only learned that his wife Leanne and their daughters
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Speaker 3: Noya and Yahelle, just aged sixteen and thirteen, had been
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Speaker 3: slaughtered when he arrived back in Israel sixteen months after
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Speaker 3: they were killed. They were murdered in their home at
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Speaker 3: Kidblutzbery on October seven. Eli had told the media that
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Speaker 3: when he was first released that he was very happy
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Speaker 3: to be coming home to his wife and daughters, unaware
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Speaker 3: that they had been killed. This is unam adgable horror
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Speaker 3: and tragedy. Yet all the United Nations wants to talk
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Speaker 3: about is a two state solution, ethnic cleansing and Palestinian suffering.
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Speaker 3: So we're literally seeing pictures reminiscent of the concentration camps
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Speaker 3: and the UN doesn't have a thing to say about it.
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Speaker 3: Not one thing all the international community wants to talk
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Speaker 3: about is a ceasefire and rebuilding Gaza. Nothing from the
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Speaker 3: UN or the Red Cross all the other fraudulent humanitarian
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Speaker 3: groups about the state of innocent hostages. These are undeniable
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Speaker 3: war crimes. Staring at them in the face. Alex Rifchin,
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Speaker 3: who will be on the show a bit later, he
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Speaker 3: says the reconstruction of the ruined buildings of Gaza is
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Speaker 3: a secondary consideration. He says, the real issue is how
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Speaker 3: do you reconstruct a society which freely allowed Hermas knowing
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Speaker 3: their creed is violence, fanaticism and religious and racial supremacy.
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Speaker 3: A society from which four thousand civilians freely took part
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Speaker 3: in the murder plunder an abduction frenzy of October seven.
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Speaker 3: A society from which thousands line the streets to abuse
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Speaker 3: and mutilate captives and then kept some as slaves in
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Speaker 3: their own homes. A society that cheers as three emaciated
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Speaker 3: tortured Jewish Men, now resembling liberated concentration camp inmates are
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Speaker 3: subjected to still more indignity and torment. A society that
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Speaker 3: welcomes as prized assets convicted child killers, rapists, mass murderers
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Speaker 3: that any other society would prefer to be rid of.
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Speaker 3: That is the reconstruction the world needs to address. Alex
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Speaker 3: Is one hundred percent right. The time is long overdue.
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Speaker 3: When the world stops looking away and stares right into
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Speaker 3: the eyes of eli Or and o'had, the international community
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Speaker 3: and humanitarian groups need to confront the human atrocities that
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Speaker 3: her Mus has inflicted on innocent civilians. This goes against
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Speaker 3: their racial prejudice and their bias, but if they can't show.
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Speaker 2: Empathy for humans or humans.
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Speaker 3: Including Israelis, then they shouldn't be in their jobs and
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Speaker 3: perhaps President Donald Trump should look at overhauling the United
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Speaker 3: Nations because it's clearly a corrupt and broken organization. Now,
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Speaker 3: I'm going to come back to that topic with Alex
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Speaker 3: Ripchin after the break, but now let's return to the
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Speaker 3: Victorian by elections over the weekend. It has been a
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Speaker 3: shocking result for labor. This is panicking the Albaneze government
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Speaker 3: as well. And I'm joan now by Sky News hosts
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Speaker 3: Steve Price and Joe Hildebrand. Great to see it, as
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Speaker 3: always it on Monday. Steve, you know seeds like Werribee,
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Speaker 3: these are safe labor seats.
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Speaker 2: This is traditional labor heartland.
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Speaker 3: So what do you think this means at both the
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Speaker 3: state and federal level.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's much more than just local issues.
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Speaker 1: I think it really is a reflection on how the
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Speaker 1: labor brand has been so trashed in Victoria by Daniel
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Speaker 1: Andrews and now by Jacinda Allen that the people voting
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Speaker 1: in these electorates don't see the big difference between state
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Speaker 1: government and federal government. I mean, let's quickly talk about Werribee.
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Speaker 1: I mean Weerribee has been held by the former Treasurer
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Speaker 1: Tim Pallace for ten years, Tim Palace is the blok
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Speaker 1: who was the treasurer in Victoria wrecked the economy. And
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Speaker 1: that area around Weerribe used to be farm land. It's
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Speaker 1: now carpet bombed, with houses built right next to one
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Speaker 1: another in suburbs that have got no infrastructure. There's no parks,
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Speaker 1: there's no trees. There's one lane roads in and out
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Speaker 1: of that place. And so people sit in their cars,
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Speaker 1: Sharry and Joe for up to an hour, hour and
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Speaker 1: a half just to get out onto the freeway. And
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Speaker 1: so they were never going to support labor. I mean,
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Speaker 1: labor looks like it will sneak back in, but only
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Speaker 1: on Green preferences. And when you talk about when you
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Speaker 1: talk about the seat in Chapel Street, Pran, I mean
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Speaker 1: Tony Lupton, the former Labor politician who held that seat
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Speaker 1: until ten years ago. He stood as an independent and
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Speaker 1: what did he do. He announced two weeks ago that
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Speaker 1: he was going to put the Greens last on his
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Speaker 1: how to vote card and he said that there has
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Speaker 1: been a thirty percent swing against the Greens. And the
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Speaker 1: reason why people turned on the Greens in that seat,
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Speaker 1: and I know it well because I lived there, was
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Speaker 1: because he kept talking about how they had been turned
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Speaker 1: into a radical extremist party. He said seventy percent of
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Speaker 1: the reactions that he got about the Greens were what
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Speaker 1: they were saying about Palestine.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he really campaigned on anti Semitism. Joe, and you've
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Speaker 3: corrected me. I was saying piranh. You're saying I'm saying
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Speaker 3: Bran love Pan.
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Speaker 10: I'm saying everyone else says Paran. That's why. That's that's
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Speaker 10: how you can distinguish between Melbourne and anyone from any
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Speaker 10: of these out of.
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Speaker 3: Town apologies for pronunciation's right. So, Joe, this area, you
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Speaker 3: know again, Adam Bant his seat of Melbourne at a
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Speaker 3: federal level covers the same ground. There's also a bit
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Speaker 3: of coupjong in there as well. So you think that
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Speaker 3: the Green are going to struggle federally and with their
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Speaker 3: preferences flowing to labor, this is going to be worrying
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Speaker 3: the Albanese government, no question.
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Speaker 10: Well, Pran is just as one of those entirely sort
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Speaker 10: of obnoxious greeny tearly seats where everyone is with Steve.
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Speaker 10: Steve accepted, of course, which is very very affluent. It
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Speaker 10: can afford to vote purely on values, and of course
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Speaker 10: they had very nice, shiny progressive Green values when they
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Speaker 10: swung to the Greens about ten years ago. And suddenly
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Speaker 10: when the Green's true colors show on an issue as
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Speaker 10: visceral as Israel and Palestine, and it turns out the
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Speaker 10: Greens are actually a bunch of knuckle dragging extremists, and
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Speaker 10: suddenly this seat, which again has a very high Jewish population,
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Speaker 10: it would be near the sort of the hot land
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Speaker 10: of sort of core field, which is in McNamara, where
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Speaker 10: Josh Burns's seat is around, and of course other seats
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Speaker 10: like Ku Yong as well. That suddenly these goes go,
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Speaker 10: oh my god, our local member hates us, hates our people,
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Speaker 10: wants to wipe our homeland from the map. So I
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Speaker 10: am not surprised at all that Israel was a huge
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Speaker 10: issue there and the former member who ran as an
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Speaker 10: independent was a key factor in the Greens downfall, and
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Speaker 10: good on him.
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Speaker 13: Where Abe the.
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Speaker 10: Betrayal is actually twofold because not only was Tim Palace
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Speaker 10: the treasurer, but Tim Palace was the most senior member
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Speaker 10: of the Victorian Right and it's always been the right
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Speaker 10: of the Labor Party that has represented and represented well
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Speaker 10: out of suburban working class, often very migrant heavy, multicultural,
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Speaker 10: real sort of real, sort of you know, struggle street seats,
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Speaker 10: you know, instead of again these inner city affluent seats
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Speaker 10: that bang on and on about you know, whatever it is,
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Speaker 10: climate change and gender and whatever. He defected from the
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Speaker 10: right to the left so he could hold on to
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Speaker 10: his job.
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Speaker 13: Never I'm all about the worker.
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Speaker 10: But he actually defected from the right to the left
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Speaker 10: when Alan became premier, presumably to hold onto his job.
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Speaker 10: Then decides he's just going to bugger off anyway, or
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Speaker 10: maybe he got tapped, and now that seat is holding
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Speaker 10: on for the fight of its life. So well done,
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Speaker 10: the Victorian labor left.
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Speaker 8: Not a big win.
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Speaker 10: Good on you guys.
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Speaker 2: Anyway.
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Speaker 3: The results were good on the weekend and very positive
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Speaker 3: for hopefully the Greens being decimated in the upcoming federal election.
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Speaker 2: Now this is a bit of fun.
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Speaker 3: The City Morning Herald editor Bevin Shields picked a fight
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Speaker 3: with UFC chief executive Dana White, writing in a scathing
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Speaker 3: piece on the weekend which was subtly titlooed. Watching our
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Speaker 3: premier chat to UFC bus and Dana White made me
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Speaker 3: feel physically sick.
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Speaker 2: Well, Dana White hit back.
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Speaker 13: Have a look listen for a place that is so
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Speaker 13: tough and the people, everything on land and the water
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Speaker 13: can kill you. You have the biggest I've ever seen
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Speaker 13: in the media in my life. I saw a story
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Speaker 13: where a guy was like, I saw Dana do a
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Speaker 13: podcast with the Premiere and it physically made me sick. Holy,
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Speaker 13: you guys have to have the biggest of all time
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Speaker 13: in the media here. I thought we had week week media.
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Speaker 13: You guys win hands down.
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Speaker 3: The UFC may not be genteel enough for The Herald's readers,
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Speaker 3: but you know, Steve, millions of people around the world
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Speaker 3: love the UFC. It's on in my house all the time.
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Speaker 3: My husband loves it every Sunday at least. So you know,
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Speaker 3: this also is an economic boost to the New South
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Speaker 3: Wales economy. And why should one spot in particular be excluded.
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Speaker 1: What just shows you how out of touch those nine
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Speaker 1: newspapers are. I mean, this bloke, you know, he's banging
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Speaker 1: on two weeks ago saying he was going to open
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Speaker 1: an office in Paramatta for some two journalists. I think
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Speaker 1: to go and say and stay out there and report
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Speaker 1: on the greater Western Sydney Man. Seriously, I mean, Paramount
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Speaker 1: is not even the center of Sydney anymore, it's even
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Speaker 1: gone further west. And he's also had a cracket cricket
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Speaker 1: this guy. Now, how someone so out of touch with
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Speaker 1: what ordinary average Australians like to see for entertainment should
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Speaker 1: not be running a daily newspaper. I mean it's a ridict.
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Speaker 3: Well maybe he's in touch with the Herald readers, maybe
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Speaker 3: he is Joe, but I thought it was funny about
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Speaker 3: Peter fitz Simon's He also criticized the UFC, but he wrote,
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Speaker 3: according to the Australians Media section today, he wrote a
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Speaker 3: book on boxing.
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Speaker 2: Boxing's no less.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's as bad as violent as the UFC.
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Speaker 12: Yeah.
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Speaker 10: Look, Bevanshell is a lovely bloke. He's very genteel, he's
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Speaker 10: very urbane. I'm not surprised that the UFC isn't his thing,
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Speaker 10: and I doubt it would be most Cinney Morning Herald
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Speaker 10: readers thing either. But it's not really my cup of tea,
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Speaker 10: to be honest. But I think whatever floats you, you know,
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Speaker 10: if you enjoy it, if people are all doing it voluntarily,
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Speaker 10: that's fantastic. You know, some of the best writers in
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Speaker 10: the world not necessarily fits, but like Norman Mailer, you know,
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Speaker 10: write about boxing is in this incredible high art form.
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Speaker 10: I haven't been able to perceive that myself when I've
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Speaker 10: seen you know, Appony Mundane swinging in there.
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Speaker 8: But maybe it is there.
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Speaker 10: But I think, you know, just I don't see why
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Speaker 10: we have to impose, like surely, if we've learned anything
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Speaker 10: in the twenty first century, it's just go and do
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Speaker 10: what you want to do. You don't have the right
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Speaker 10: to tell other people what the Canon can't say, Canon
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Speaker 10: can't believe, Canon can't watch. Just let freedom rain.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, it's no rules and a cage with no
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Speaker 3: rules in a cage exactly. All right, I think we're
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Speaker 3: out of time. Steve Price, Johudebrand, thank you very so much.
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Speaker 3: All right, let's return now to these shocking results for
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Speaker 3: alban Easy on the weekend and Trump's tariffs as well,
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Speaker 3: and enjoining me now, Shadow Home Affairs Minister James Patterson, James, great.
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Speaker 2: To see you, as always.
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Speaker 3: Look, the Albanezy government was today scrambling after Donald Trump
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Speaker 3: announced a twenty five percent tariff on all steel and aluminium.
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Speaker 3: As you know, these are two of Australia's biggest exports
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Speaker 3: to the US. The Prime Minister has now said that
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Speaker 3: he's scheduled an emergency call with Donald Trump.
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Speaker 2: James Patterson.
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Speaker 3: Clearly, Australia needs an exemption here. We had one before
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Speaker 3: when Trump imposed lesser tariffs during the Turnbull government. But
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Speaker 3: do you have confidence that alban Easy, let alone Kevin
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Speaker 3: RD can negotiate their way out of these tariffs.
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Speaker 5: Well, you're right, Charry. This is a very big test
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Speaker 5: for the Albanezy government and their ambassador in Washington, d C.
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Speaker 5: The template has been set when these tariffs were applied
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Speaker 5: in President Trump's first trim. Australia secured an exemption from it,
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Speaker 5: and that's the bare minimum that Australian workers and industry
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Speaker 5: should expect from this government. It'll be a test for
22:26
Speaker 5: the Prime minister whether he can do that. I'm not
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Speaker 5: sure he's putting sufficient energy and effort behind this task.
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Speaker 5: Other world leaders, whether it's the Japanese Prime minister, the
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Speaker 5: UK Prime minister, the Canadian Prime minister, the French Prime minister,
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Speaker 5: or many others, have been beating a pathway to Donald
22:41
Speaker 5: Trump's door, both before his inauguration and since his inauguration,
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Speaker 5: to have meetings with him, to transact business with him,
22:48
Speaker 5: to do negotiations with him and to assert their national interest.
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Speaker 5: Our Prime Minister has no plans to go to Washington, DC,
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Speaker 5: no plans to meet with President Trump. And I'm starting
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Speaker 5: to wonder whether that is deliberate political strategy on his behalf,
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Speaker 5: because he's worried what the Greens would do with a
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Speaker 5: photograph of him in the Oval Office shaking President Trump's hand.
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Speaker 5: I think he's worried that would be letterbox to every
23:09
Speaker 5: household in an electric like Wills in Melbourne, which pedical
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Speaker 5: El holds and is under a threat from the Greens.
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Speaker 5: And I wonder where he's now putting politics ahead of
23:16
Speaker 5: the national interest. The national interest dictates for the Prime
23:19
Speaker 5: Minister form a rapport with President Trump. That cannot be
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Speaker 5: done over the phone. It must be done in person,
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Speaker 5: and that's the only way we're going to secure exemptions
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Speaker 5: on issues like this.
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Speaker 3: And I think the fact that we saw Scott Morrison
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Speaker 3: attend Marri Lago already, you know, I played the video
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Speaker 3: on this show of him chatting with Donald Trump an Milania.
23:38
Speaker 3: So clearly Trump would be open to a relationship, of
23:42
Speaker 3: course with Australia if they were supportive leaders. But he's
23:45
Speaker 3: not stupid he knows what Kevin Rudd said in the past,
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Speaker 3: he knows what Alberanze said in the past.
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Speaker 2: But James, I want to ask you this.
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Speaker 3: Given Malcolm Turnpule was able to negotiate an exemption previously,
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Speaker 3: do you think the Albanese government should be able to
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Speaker 3: do the same now.
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Speaker 5: Well, you wouldn't necessarily think that Malcolm Turnbull and President
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Speaker 5: Trump were simpatico in personality types. You can imagine they
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Speaker 5: would have different world views on many issues. But Malcolm
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Speaker 5: Turnbull put the national interests first. He bet a pathway
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Speaker 5: to President Trump's door. He very assertively stood up for
24:17
Speaker 5: Australia's interest and he persuaded President Trump on that and
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Speaker 5: a range of other issues to do things in Australia's
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Speaker 5: national interest, including on a refugee transfer arrangement as well.
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Speaker 5: So the Albanezi government should be able to do at
24:29
Speaker 5: least as much as promise to Malcolm Turnbull was able
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Speaker 5: to do, and at least as much as promise to
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Speaker 5: Scott Morrison was.
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Speaker 8: Able to do.
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Speaker 3: Now, I want to ask you about the by elections
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Speaker 3: on the weekend. I mean, the Allen government has only
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Speaker 3: just held on to Werribee. This is meant to be
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Speaker 3: a safe seat. Does this give you optimism for the
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Speaker 3: Coalition at a federal level picking up seats in Victoria.
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Speaker 5: We'll make not mistake Shari. On Saturday night when the
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Speaker 5: returns were coming in, Labour MPs in the western northern
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Speaker 5: suburbs of Melbourne were watching it with horror and shock
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Speaker 5: because if even a fraction of those swings are replicated
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Speaker 5: on election day, many of them will lose their seats,
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Speaker 5: will beholding marginal seats after the next election. And it's
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Speaker 5: no surprise Victorians are suffering under the weight of not
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Speaker 5: just one but two bad, very bad labor governments. And
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Speaker 5: it's not just our economy but our crime and community
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Speaker 5: safety that are their suffering under. And so approaches A
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Speaker 5: lot vote has been launched here and I think they
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Speaker 5: should heed that message and act appropriately.
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Speaker 3: Look, we saw some quite aggressive scenes in question Time
25:31
Speaker 3: in Canberra today where Mark Dreyfus in a very strong
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Speaker 3: way accused the Coalition and Peter Dutton of politicizing the
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Speaker 3: anti Semitism issue.
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Speaker 2: Let's have a look.
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Speaker 3: Oh sorry, we'll bring you those comments a bit later
25:48
Speaker 3: in the show. He really attacked the Coalition and Peter
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Speaker 3: Dutton for politicizing anti Semitism.
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Speaker 2: But James, you know this isn't.
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Speaker 3: Dutton politicizing this issue. The Jewish community for sixteen months
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Speaker 3: has been begging the Prime Minister for action on this.
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Speaker 3: We do have those climents now have a look.
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Speaker 11: But those of it opposite have taken every opportunity since
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Speaker 11: the seventh of October twenty twenty three to politicize the
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Speaker 11: trauma and the experiences of the Jewish people.
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Speaker 4: You're disgusting.
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Speaker 11: There's nothing more serious than the opposition being accused of
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Speaker 11: politicizing an issue.
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Speaker 3: Like this, James Patterson, I want to get your response
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Speaker 3: to this, to Dreyfus's attack.
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Speaker 5: When I go to events in the Australian Jewish community,
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Speaker 5: as I was on Sunday at a family friend's event,
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Speaker 5: the message I hear from Jewish community is not that
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Speaker 5: you are politicizing this issue. The message I hear overwhelming
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Speaker 5: is thank you for standing up for us, thank you
26:48
Speaker 5: for speaking out for us. Please hold this government to
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Speaker 5: account and please make sure you win the next election
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Speaker 5: because we think any Semitism is going to get even
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Speaker 5: worse if this government gets re elected again. Heard once
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Speaker 5: remember of the Jewish community that they didn't want us
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Speaker 5: to be taking up this fight on their behalf that
27:05
Speaker 5: they didn't want us to be loud, but they didn't
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Speaker 5: want us to continue to drag the Albanesi government kicking
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Speaker 5: and screaming into the tough decisions that are necessary to
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Speaker 5: protect our community, as we did last week on mandatory
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Speaker 5: minimum sentences. That's what Mark Dreyfus is upset about. He's
27:18
Speaker 5: got a long standing opposition to mandatory minim sentences. I
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Speaker 5: understand that, but no one here is politicizing anti semitism.
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Speaker 5: We're fighting to get our country back on track.
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Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more.
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Speaker 3: I think the offensive is the suggestion is so offensive
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Speaker 3: that this issue is being politicized. We need stronger protection
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Speaker 3: from the federal government. This is the prime minister of
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Speaker 3: the country who has overseen this shocking and dramatic and
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Speaker 3: unprecedented rise of andy Semitism in this country. You know,
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Speaker 3: every one of us needs to be begging and campaigning
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Speaker 3: for stronger action. Every single Australian needs to do that,
27:56
Speaker 3: you know, because we can't accept what we're seeing here.
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Speaker 3: James just fin, you've written to Tony Burke. You're urging
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Speaker 3: him and to update the prohibited prohibited hate symbols legislation,
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Speaker 3: yet another law that you are campaigning the government on
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Speaker 3: that perhaps they will turn around after opposing and do
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Speaker 3: a backflip and support So what exactly are you asking
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Speaker 3: for here?
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Speaker 5: So on the weekend in Melbourne, I had a very
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Speaker 5: disturbing scene. Someone allegedly flew the flag of a terrorist organization,
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Speaker 5: the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine. Now there's
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Speaker 5: no question this is a terrorist organization. Many of allies
28:30
Speaker 5: listed as a terrorist organization. We have sanctioned them for
28:32
Speaker 5: the purpose of financial sanctions, but they're not listed as
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Speaker 5: a terrorist organization in Australia and that introduces uncertainty as
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Speaker 5: whether it is a crime to publicly display their symbols
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Speaker 5: and logos and fly their flags. And we have to
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Speaker 5: make it very clear that it is a crime to
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Speaker 5: display the flags of a terrorist organization like the Popular
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Speaker 5: Front for Liberation of Palestine. So I've asked Tony Burke
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Speaker 5: to commence a process to list them as a terrorist
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Speaker 5: organization of Australia, which would also criminalize membership of them and
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Speaker 5: criminalize associating with them, because we need to send a
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Speaker 5: very strong message that whether it's Hamas or Hesbala or
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Speaker 5: al Qaeda, or ISIS or the Popular Front for the
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Speaker 5: Liberation of Palestine. Nobody should be publicly praising and glorifying
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Speaker 5: terrorist organizations in our country.
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Speaker 3: Indeed, all right, James Patterson, really grateful for your time,
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Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
29:18
Speaker 2: Now still to come.
29:19
Speaker 3: Why Trump's ban on paper strolls is one of his
29:22
Speaker 3: best moves yet. Plus I have a big announcement that's
29:26
Speaker 3: coming up right after this quick break. Welcome back, all right,
29:34
Speaker 3: let's get to our big announcement tonight. Well, each night
29:37
Speaker 3: on this show for sixteen months, we've spoken about the
29:40
Speaker 3: shocking explosion in racism towards Jews here and around the world,
29:46
Speaker 3: and we've all been horrified and what we're witnessing on
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Speaker 3: streets we always considered safe. We took this safety for granted,
29:56
Speaker 3: as we should be able to in a place like Australia.
29:59
Speaker 3: Yet with each passing week, the cruel antisemitism escalated, and
30:04
Speaker 3: all good hearted Australians can't believe what's happening. From the
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Speaker 3: burning down of the a Dust synagogue in Melbourne, where
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Speaker 3: prayer books were burnt to smithereens, to the fire bombing
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Speaker 3: of a preschool in New South Wales where toddlers play.
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Speaker 3: There's been vandalism, torching of cars, hatred on university campuses,
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Speaker 3: both by students and lecturers. The inner city in Sydney
30:31
Speaker 3: and Melbourne are basically no go zones thanks to the
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Speaker 3: aggressive and racist pro Palestinian protests with their chants against Zionists. Then,
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Speaker 3: just last month, the discovery of a caravan packed with
30:44
Speaker 3: enough explosives to create a forty meter blast Waif Premier
30:50
Speaker 3: Chris Mins was visibly shaken as he told the public
30:54
Speaker 3: it could have been a mass casualty event. We started
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Speaker 3: seeing anti semitism on a daily basis in October twenty
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Speaker 3: twenty three, after terrorists attacked Jews. It felt like it
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Speaker 3: was at crisis point back then. There's a depression that
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Speaker 3: I can tell you has quite clearly set in the
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Speaker 3: Jewish community as we witness as a society the worst
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Speaker 3: and most dangerous anti semitism we've seen in half a century.
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Speaker 3: Anti Semitism that I believe is legitimized by politicians who
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Speaker 3: speak at.
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Speaker 2: These rallies where anti Semitic signs and slogans are freely waived.
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Speaker 3: That was the twenty third of October twenty twenty three
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Speaker 3: before Israel even went into Gaza, before Israel responded at all.
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Speaker 3: It was just two weeks after Hamas attacked innocent citizens.
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Speaker 3: Somehow that barbarity was the green light for the world
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Speaker 3: to start attacking Jews as well.
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Speaker 2: Actively.
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Speaker 3: The international community and progressive activists sided with her mus
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Speaker 3: and the leaders of all of our institutions were too
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Speaker 3: weak to nip this in the bud. I'm sure I'm
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Speaker 3: not alone when I say that I feel sadness for
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Speaker 3: everything we've lost as a country, as a society. We're
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Speaker 3: becoming famous internationally for racism. It's getting coverage in all
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Speaker 3: the American and international esteemed publications, and too often we
32:32
Speaker 3: wake up in the morning after another horrific incident overnight
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Speaker 3: and it just feels like groundhog Day.
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Speaker 2: We need something.
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Speaker 3: To break the cycle, to false change, because none of
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Speaker 3: us want this to be the face of Australia permanently.
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Speaker 3: And so tonight I can announce that we're holding a
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Speaker 3: Sky News Anti Semitism Summit. Opposition leader Peter Dutton, New
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Speaker 3: South Wales Press Chris Mintz, former Prime Minister John Howard
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Speaker 3: will headline the anti Semitism summit. Attorney General Mark Dreyfus
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Speaker 3: will attend on behalf of the Albanese government Anti Semitism
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Speaker 3: Special Envoy Jillian Siegel, Holocaust survivors, the Israeli Ambassador Emir Maimon,
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Speaker 3: and a variety of other prominent figures whose names I'll
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Speaker 3: tell you.
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Speaker 2: In the coming days.
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Speaker 3: From the justice system and from the police force will
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Speaker 3: attend as well. We will have sessions on law enforcement, policing, judiciary, education,
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Speaker 3: antisemitism at universities, and better education in our school system.
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Speaker 3: I'm organizing this with the help of a hero of
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Speaker 3: the Jewish community, Alex Ripchen. Alex was fighting against antisemitism
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Speaker 3: for years before his own family became a target. The
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Speaker 3: home he used to live in was vandalized by cowards
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Speaker 3: and the car in front of it went up in flames.
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Speaker 3: Alex quite rightly says that our nation is in a
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Speaker 3: dark place right now and that this summit has the.
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Speaker 2: Capacity to lead us out.
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Speaker 3: Alex says this will be a non partisan and honest
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Speaker 3: examination of where we as a society have failed and
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Speaker 3: what needs to be done to restore Australia's standing as
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Speaker 3: a peaceful, tolerant country. Sky News Chief Executive Paul Whittaker
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Speaker 3: will open the summit. He says, anti Semitism is an
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Speaker 3: insidious scourge on society and completely at odds with Australian values.
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Speaker 2: It must be stamped out.
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Speaker 3: He says, as history has shown words matter and we
34:49
Speaker 3: cannot let acts of prejudice and intolerance go unchallenged.
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Speaker 2: So challenge it we will.
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Speaker 3: And as Paul Whittaker says, we all have a responsibility
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Speaker 3: to call out antisemitism and demand that our leaders do
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Speaker 3: the same. This Guy News Antisemitism Summit will be held
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Speaker 3: next Thursday, on February the twentieth, and it will be
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Speaker 3: televised Life all right, and here now to discuss why
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Speaker 3: this is so important. I'm thrilled to be joined by
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Speaker 3: the Executive Council of Australian Juries CO chief Alex Rifchin. Alex,
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Speaker 3: why do we need to hold this summit right now?
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Speaker 8: I think you encapsulated it immaculately in that introduction, Sharry.
35:36
Speaker 8: We're in a position of national crisis. We're in a
35:39
Speaker 8: situation where school kids returned to school a week ago,
35:43
Speaker 8: and in Jewish households, the typical conversation was do our
35:46
Speaker 8: schools need more armed guards and security to keep our
35:49
Speaker 8: children safe? We're in a situation where the Jewish community
35:52
Speaker 8: wakes up each day and we're more stunned when there
35:55
Speaker 8: isn't another attack on the Jewish community than when there
35:57
Speaker 8: is one. We're in a situation where Jewish artists have
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Speaker 8: been pushed out of their professions, being unable to do
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Speaker 8: what they love. The situation on university campuses is intolerable.
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Speaker 8: Jews is subjected to harassment, intimidation and abuse on the streets.
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Speaker 8: We're in a horrific place right now, and we need
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Speaker 8: to bring together those who have it in their power
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Speaker 8: to understand and comprehend this problem and to actually deal
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Speaker 8: with it. And that's why this forum, which I commend
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Speaker 8: you share it for leading, and sky News for platforming
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Speaker 8: and hosting this has the capacity to affect real change
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Speaker 8: and lead to real outcomes, to improve the lives of
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Speaker 8: the Jewish community, and revive our country and bring it
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Speaker 8: back to what it once was, which is a proud, successful, democratic,
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Speaker 8: multicultural society.
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Speaker 3: So Alex, looking at how the day will work, or
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Speaker 3: the summit will work. We will hear from prominent speakers,
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Speaker 3: will have panels and sessions, and then at the end
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Speaker 3: of the day you'll present a list of outcomes that
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Speaker 3: will help address this crisis.
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Speaker 8: I think it's critical that this isn't a mere talk
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Speaker 8: fest and anything that you you're involved and I'm involved in.
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Speaker 8: It's geared towards outcomes, and the outcomes that we're seeking
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Speaker 8: here to materially improve the lives of this strange Jewish
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Speaker 8: community and all the strains, and to rescue our society
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Speaker 8: from the abyss that it's found itself in. And the
37:13
Speaker 8: way we can do that is by listening to the
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Speaker 8: experts on education, on policing, on law and order, on justice,
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Speaker 8: on campuses, and then reach specific conclusions about what needs
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Speaker 8: to be done to alleviate this crisis. We're heading into
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Speaker 8: a federal election and these are things which both the
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Speaker 8: parties can take on and pledge going into that election.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is so important that we have this conversation,
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Speaker 3: and as you say that, we do have tangible outcomes,
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Speaker 3: because when you look at back, you look back at
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Speaker 3: the past sixteen months and we can see how this
37:43
Speaker 3: is escalated. It started with the protests and then it
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Speaker 3: has now progressed to serious criminal incidents. Alex I also
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Speaker 3: earlier in the show read out a social media post
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Speaker 3: that you wrote about the rebuilding of Gaza, but how
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Speaker 3: the priority has to be stopping terrorism and actually dealing
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Speaker 3: with that. We saw on the weekend three male hostages
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Speaker 3: being released, emaciated, looked like they'd come out of a
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Speaker 3: concentration camp.
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Speaker 2: Why isn't this conversation.
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Speaker 3: Happening in the international community about how to change there's
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Speaker 3: very dangerous terrorist ideology in Gaza.
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Speaker 8: On the one hand, people don't want to have a
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Speaker 8: conversation because it's too difficult to grasp and comprehend how
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Speaker 8: to actually rehabilitated an entire society, a society that has
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Speaker 8: for sixteen years been under the thrall of a jihadest
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Speaker 8: anti Semitic, fascistic terrorist organization that has murder and abduction
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Speaker 8: and rape as a central creed. It's difficult to actually
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Speaker 8: determine how you can rehabilitate and rebuild that society, far
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Speaker 8: more than buildings and roads and so forth. So partly
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Speaker 8: it's seen it's too difficult. But on the other hand,
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Speaker 8: at the same time, people want to see Hamas's heroic.
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Speaker 8: People lionize this organization as a legitimate resistance. They're so
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Speaker 8: fixed to their view of the Israel as the ultimate
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Speaker 8: evil that they're willing to pardon and look the other
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Speaker 8: way at Hamas's crimes. They're willing to look at these
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Speaker 8: hostages being released having suffered unimaginable torments, psychological and physical torture,
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Speaker 8: and actually praise Humas for treating them humanity. But as
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Speaker 8: you rightly point out, the last prisoners look like they
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Speaker 8: returned from concentration camps. They return as the last survivors
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Speaker 8: of their families, in certain cases, with their wives and
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Speaker 8: children having been murdered before them. One of the hostages
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Speaker 8: his brother was killed in captivity as well. We are
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Speaker 8: dealing with a unique evil and far more complex, far
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Speaker 8: more necessary and essential to peace in the region that
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Speaker 8: working out how to rebuild houses is how to rebuild
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Speaker 8: a society that, firstly democratically elected Hamas chose to be
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Speaker 8: led by this organization. Where you had four thousand civilians
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Speaker 8: willingly taking part in the October seven atrocities. You had
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Speaker 8: civilians lining the streets to mutilate the corpses of Israelians
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Speaker 8: taken hostage and taunt, including wholeclast survivors and children abducted
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Speaker 8: by Humas on that day, Villians holding hostages in their
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Speaker 8: very homes. These are the issues that need to be addressed,
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Speaker 8: the rot in that society that has led to this
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Speaker 8: situation we're.
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Speaker 3: In now, and yet we hear nothing from the likes
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Speaker 3: of the United Nations on this alex riftin such important
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Speaker 3: points there, and again, thank you so much for your
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Speaker 3: work on this very important issue of anti sement designer,
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Speaker 3: Thank you all Right. Still to come Trump's ban on
40:23
Speaker 3: paper straws, plus just Enterprise's new memoir where she speaks
40:28
Speaker 3: about her darkest days. Now, this is one of the
40:31
Speaker 3: most incredible and inspiring Australian stories.
40:34
Speaker 2: I'm going to.
40:35
Speaker 3: Speak about whether she's on track to be a future
40:37
Speaker 3: prime minister with Cameron Milner and Andrew Carswell after this break. Okay,
40:45
Speaker 3: welcome back. Well, let's bring in our Monday Political panel
40:48
Speaker 3: Headline Advisory Director Andrew Carswell and former chief of staff
40:52
Speaker 3: to Bill Short and Cameron Milner.
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Speaker 2: Welcome. Now.
40:55
Speaker 3: I want to talk about Justinerprice and this incredible interview
40:59
Speaker 3: she did in the Weekend Australian magazine. This is to
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Speaker 3: promote her new memoir which will be out shortly. It's
41:07
Speaker 3: called Matters of the Heart. Now, she was very transparent
41:11
Speaker 3: in this cover story about her battle with drugs, alcohol
41:16
Speaker 3: and domestic violence. It is truly remarkable how by such
41:21
Speaker 3: a young age, the age of twenty two, she'd had
41:23
Speaker 3: three young children. She after that was struggling for a
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Speaker 3: time with drugs and alcohol. She had a seriously severe
41:32
Speaker 3: domestic violence experience. And Andrew Caswell, she has come through
41:36
Speaker 3: all of this adversity to be one of the leading
41:39
Speaker 3: politicians of our time and she could be the first
41:44
Speaker 3: Indigenous Prime Minister of Australia. Andrew, what do you think?
41:49
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, Shari, you certainly can't rule that out. I
41:53
Speaker 9: think Jasina has done a tremendous job in her short
41:56
Speaker 9: parliamentary career so far, and more broadly her wonderful advocacy
42:01
Speaker 9: for her community and regional and remote Australia. I think
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Speaker 9: what Gisina brings is a much needed dose of common
42:10
Speaker 9: sense to Australian politics and the political discourse, and particularly
42:14
Speaker 9: the common sense her common sense approach to closing the
42:17
Speaker 9: gap and addressing some of those inherent policy issues that
42:22
Speaker 9: are affecting regional and remote Australia. And she's to be
42:26
Speaker 9: commended for that. There are many people in this debate
42:28
Speaker 9: that are intensely focused on the past Jasina is resolutely
42:33
Speaker 9: focused on the future, and that is the difference. I
42:36
Speaker 9: think if Peter Dutton is successfully winning the next election
42:39
Speaker 9: in this role, this newly created role of Shadow Minister
42:43
Speaker 9: for Government Efficiency, you can guarantee that Josina will be very,
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Speaker 9: very very busy.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Cameron reading that Weekend Australian magazine cover story.
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Speaker 3: In the interview, Jacina speaks about one of her aunties
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Speaker 3: was forced into a car with five men and was
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Speaker 3: never seen again. I mean, she's not just a politician
43:07
Speaker 3: standing there speaking about Indigenous disadvantage.
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Speaker 2: She's lived it.
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Speaker 3: I just think her story is so remarkable and so inspiring.
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Speaker 6: It is, and what an amazing human beings to have
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Speaker 6: come through what she came through and to have got
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Speaker 6: to where she's got. I mean, that's what the joy
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Speaker 6: of Australian parliamentary democracy is all about. Someone with that
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Speaker 6: background and struggle to have got to where she's got to,
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Speaker 6: and you say, as you say, the futures ahead of her.
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Speaker 6: She's got a change house. Though she can't be sended
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Speaker 6: to become Prime minister. So be like Barnaby Joyce had
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Speaker 6: he had the movie to state and find another seat
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Speaker 6: the National party, if they're serious about it, need to
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Speaker 6: move her into state because I don't think Ling, Giario
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Speaker 6: or Solomon are safe enough for a future prime minister.
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Speaker 6: But look, she's an amazing woman, an incredible story and
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Speaker 6: incredibly moving in terms of the story of the week in.
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Speaker 3: Australia, it was and if you haven't read it, search it,
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Speaker 3: have a look on the Australian website. It really is
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Speaker 3: a remarkable read and of course I'm looking forward to
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Speaker 3: reading just sent his book as well her memoir. Now
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Speaker 3: let's turn to the results on the weekend. You both
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Speaker 3: political experts, you analyze this very closely. Now, as well
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Speaker 3: as the Victorian by election, we also saw the Redbridge
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Speaker 3: poll and it showed that voters in out of suburban
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Speaker 3: areas are abandoning Albanesi Andrew Amina twenty seven percent primary
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Speaker 3: for Labor and out of suburban areas. That just shows
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Speaker 3: that Albanese has abandoned regular mainstream Australian voters.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think Cos Samaras said it right from Redbridge
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Speaker 9: when he said it's no longer the labor red wall.
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Speaker 9: It is a barbee of fence. And look, I'd go
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Speaker 9: further and say it's an open door. This is a
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Speaker 9: massive opportunity for the Liberal Party, the federal Liberal Party,
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Speaker 9: to make some significant gains in a state that has
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Speaker 9: always been problematic for them. And you know, the Labor
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Speaker 9: Party likes to look at the Liberal primary in Werribee
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Speaker 9: as a result of them maybe not warming to Dunton,
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Speaker 9: but that primarily is a result of a very underperforming opposition.
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Speaker 9: Liberal opposition to Victoria nothing to do with the federal
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Speaker 9: Liberal leadership. And to really squash that point is to
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Speaker 9: point back to the Dunkley by election where Peter Dutton
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Speaker 9: as leader got a primary there of thirty nine and
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Speaker 9: a half percent. So they are coming for that red
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Speaker 9: wall and they are coming fast.
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Speaker 3: And Cameron Andrew just raised the state of Victoria, usually
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Speaker 3: a very progressive state, the most progressive state in the country.
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Speaker 3: So if we're seeing that sort of movement, that shift
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Speaker 3: of sentiment in Victoria, I mean you'd think it would
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Speaker 3: be a blood bath in New South Wales.
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Speaker 6: Well, I think it's a blood bath in Victoria. I
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Speaker 6: think there's a whole lot of very fat margins which
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Speaker 6: are going to cut to the quick and potentially get
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Speaker 6: cut to being Liberal Party seats. I think the other
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Speaker 6: great result Charie was the Pran by election. I mean
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Speaker 6: so good to see the anti Semitic Greens finally copying it.
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Speaker 6: I mean so good to see Tony lupt Is an
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Speaker 6: independent direct preference to the Liberal Party to make sure
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Speaker 6: that the party of anti Semitism in Victoria got smashed.
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Speaker 6: So that was a good result as well, I think
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Speaker 6: in the by election in Paran. But to your wider point,
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Speaker 6: Labour's in real trouble, real trouble in Victoria, not only
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Speaker 6: because of Daniel Andrews and the Allen government, but because
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Speaker 6: of Albanese and just taking for granted, taking for granted
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Speaker 6: Victorian voters, especially in those out of suburbs, as the
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Speaker 6: red Bridge Pole shows, and.
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Speaker 3: We can see that Dutton's really focusing on Victoria. He
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Speaker 3: had his unofficial campaign launch in Chisholm earlier this year.
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Speaker 3: He's visiting the state a lot, really targeting it. Now, Andrew,
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Speaker 3: what do you want to know what you make of this?
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Speaker 3: I think it's quite an unusual move. The outgoing National
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Speaker 3: ZMP Keith Pitt, He's been appointed by the Albanesi government
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Speaker 3: as the next Vatican ambassador. Why do you think they
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Speaker 3: would have given this post to a national MP.
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Speaker 9: Well, this for me, Shari, was certainly a literal laugh
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Speaker 9: out loud moment for me, and not because I was
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Speaker 9: shocked at the announcement. It was more the fact that
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Speaker 9: I wasn't shocked. I mean, you would hardly say that
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Speaker 9: Keith Pitt is defining one of his defining character traits
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Speaker 9: his loyalty. I mean, this is a bloke that's been
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Speaker 9: an irritant for successive and multiple National Party leaders. He
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Speaker 9: was an irritant I g guess for Scott Morrison and
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Speaker 9: for Malcolm Turnbull. So taking a few lollies from the
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Speaker 9: Labor Party, I'm not surprised by that. One thing I
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Speaker 9: would say is that I think we do need to
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Speaker 9: send a bit of a warning party to the Vatican
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Speaker 9: ahead of his arrival. I'm not sure the Pope knows
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Speaker 9: what's coming at him.
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Speaker 3: Look, I'm not going to give it all the way now,
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Speaker 3: but I know that there are other similar offers of
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Speaker 3: appointments similar to this that are in the works.
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Speaker 2: Karen.
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Speaker 3: Why though, despite all of this politicking, wouldn't Labor just
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Speaker 3: give it to a Labor mate?
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it is an unusual move.
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Speaker 6: Well, yes, no, I mean, and I think it's a
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Speaker 6: bit cheerish. I mean, Keith Pitt's actually been quite a
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Speaker 6: good local member for his area and actually held the
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Speaker 6: seat despite some pretty big swings around. So I mean,
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Speaker 6: Keith Pit's a good queenslanda so I wish him well
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Speaker 6: in terms of the Vatican role going forward. But yeah,
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Speaker 6: I mean, look, these are politicians gifts that get hand
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Speaker 6: out to mates more and more often than not. Or
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Speaker 6: buy offs is the other way to view it too,
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Speaker 6: So yes, it'll be interesting. It'll be interesting to see
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Speaker 6: what the trade is that Albo's got in play.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, very interesting. All right, Cameron Andrew, thank you both
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Speaker 3: for your time. Now coming up after the break. Trump
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Speaker 3: has signed more than fifty executive orders, but it's the
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Speaker 3: next one which will have every parent of Toddler's cheering.
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Speaker 8: Well.
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Speaker 3: In his first couple of weeks in office, Donald Trump
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Speaker 3: has signed more than fifty executive orders, but this latest
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Speaker 3: one had me laughing and cheering. Trump posted on truth
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Speaker 3: Social on Friday saying that he'll be signing an executive
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Speaker 3: order next week ending the ridiculous Biden push for paper
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Speaker 3: straws which don't work back to plastic, and I have
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Speaker 3: to say it just feels like the President can read
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Speaker 3: my mind.
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Speaker 2: This is true leadership. Now.
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Speaker 3: Trump has waited a long time to implement this, he
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Speaker 3: wrote in twenty twenty. Has anyone tried those paper straws.
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Speaker 3: They're not working too good and they don't work too good,
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Speaker 3: as any parent of a toddler knows, whenever you buy
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Speaker 3: your kid a smoothie, you need to take multiple paper
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Speaker 3: straws because they don't survive a toddler. And using five
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Speaker 3: paper straws instead of one plastic straw surely is not
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Speaker 3: good for the environment.
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is the best.
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Speaker 3: Example of Donald Trump doing something sensible that we'd all want.
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Speaker 3: We all complain about paper straws, but he actually thinks
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Speaker 3: to ban plastic once. It's such a welcome change of leadership.
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Speaker 3: And on that note, thanks for your company this evening.
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Speaker 3: I'll see you tomorrow at eight o'clock and for now
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Speaker 3: your favorite hour of the day, my mate, Paul Murray,