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David Kaplan talks Chicago sports, Nick Athan on the Chiefs & Trent's Pick presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Hour number two, Millary Condon, welcome back, Iowa Sports Radio
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Network. We'll take you until 2:00.
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At that time off the bench, Lucas and Sean, 2 until 5:00.
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Let's head to Chicago's Centurion.
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Stone of Iowa sponsors our guests, our weekly guest, David
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Kaplan as we talk Chicago sports with the cap man every single
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Wednesday. Hello Capper, How are you?
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Doing great, just trying to break stories and report on
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Chicago sports and talk to you fine gentlemen.
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Well, we don't want to get in your way of breaking some news.
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Are you working on something you can share with us?
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I'm just trying to work on this stadium stuff because it's
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dragged on long enough. Yeah.
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Are you getting anywhere? Are you hearing, Do you have a
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better feel that maybe you did? I mean, you've already pretty
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adamant it's going to be at Arlington Heights.
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That was you've kind of the hill that you've decided to go up on.
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What is? Is that still the leader in the
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clubhouse? Yeah, I'll be stunned if they're
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not in Arlington by stunned. And I got a call from an Indiana
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politician yesterday who said, brother, I've been listening to
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you on the YouTube and on ESPN 1000.
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We're getting them. They're coming.
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It's a done deal. I said OK, you want to have a
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wager dinner at Saint Elmo's down in Indianapolis.
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Good choice if I'm down there. Yeah, and it's the best.
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And that's that sauce that'll. Blow you.
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That's amazing and you can't wait to dig it again.
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Costco, by the way, Costco has it.
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Are you kidding? That's awesome.
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No, the other day, because I buy a bunch of stuff that only they
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have and I'm walking through and I go, whoa, that's the same
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almost cocktail stuff and I bought it.
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It's the best. You know, that's one of the
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things because at the one knock about Costco, you just can't
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just buy 1. You got to buy like I.
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Went in there to buy one thing the can't.
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Instead of tuna canned chicken I make chicken salad out of it and
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then I use the rest for my dog. They love the chicken.
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I'm literally going in there to buy like 4-4 packs of it and I
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spent 300 plus dollars. When I walked out of there I'm
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like, what the hell just happened?
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Yeah, I like the way they get to they put the big the 90 inch
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screen right in front of you as you walk in the door, the big
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screen TV for like 500 bucks. You're thinking, Oh my God,
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that's got to come home. Does it?
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Anyways, let's let. So just back to that.
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Let's put a bow on a cap. When, when, when will we hear?
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I mean, it's even the commissioners getting fed up
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with the pace that this thing is seemingly crawling along at.
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When when will we know where the bears are going to call home?
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Is it? Is it?
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I mean, any day now. Well, they have to do it by the
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end of May. That's when they leave session.
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They go on summer recess, the Illinois House.
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And so I believe you will see, oh, make this prediction to your
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audience within two weeks you will know where they're going to
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be. So when we get I don't know what
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is today's date, the 15th? Tax Day.
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Makes yeah make sure you've paid your estimate payment or you've
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filed your taxes the 22nd, the 29th I'll say by the that first
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of May that you'll know all. Right.
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That would be nice. That would be nice if we can
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finally get there. And I'll wager whatever you want
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that it's Arlington Heights. That it's Arlington Heights that
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has been the betting favorite, I think throughout this process,
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and I think you're going to be correct on that front.
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Well, before that May 1st date, we're going to know what the
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Bears do in the NFL Draft. Give us some insight.
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What's the scuttle button? Are you one of the people like
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me? This is the time I start to shut
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it down. Basically anything that I feel
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like I'm hearing at this point, it is very difficult to believe
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where is this coming from, those kind of things.
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What are you hearing though on the Bears front?
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Your source is quite a bit better than mine.
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Best player available, period. That's what they're going to do.
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And so my radio partner who does not subscribe to that
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philosophy, Jonathan Hood said, oh, what if it's a quarterback?
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And I said, buddy, if it's a quarterback, then they're
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trading down because if that guy's got a first round grade,
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some quarterback needy team is coming up to get him.
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So it's not going to be a quarterback.
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I don't think they're trading back.
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I think a lot of teams want to trade back.
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I don't think that's going to happen.
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I would not be shocked if they traded up to either get the left
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tackle of the future without future pillows.
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That is clearly in doubt. I don't think he's going to play
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much, if at all, this year with that torn patellar tendon
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injury. It could be a rush edge, it
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could be AD tackle, it could be a safety, it could be a corner,
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it could be a linebacker. Those are all positions of need,
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but I think it's going to be either left tackle or somebody
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on the D line. Interesting.
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And and Trent, just As for you and the rest of the Hawkeye
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fans, because there's a lot seemingly a lot of Hawkeye Bear
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crossover. Kaden Proctor's projected to go
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somewhere in that phrase, wouldn't that?
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I will. So Kathy, when I was starting in
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this business some 25 years ago, I had a draft show right before
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the draft where I said if they draft courtesy Enos, I am
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renouncing my Bears fanship. Of course, they draft Curtis
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Enos and I couldn't pull myself actually to do it, but turned
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the whole summer into that. I had a lot of content that came
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around. If they draft Creighton Proctor,
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I'm not going to denounce my Bears fanship, but I'm going to
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be pissed. That guy, no thank you.
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As talented as he is now, he's going to get paid from the NFL.
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He is not going to work. I will tell you that much.
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And I think a lot of people in the state of Iowa would say the
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same. Well, you better hope that like
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in that we're all still alive in like 20-50.
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We'll call. No, he's 15 years.
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OK, 20 years. So like 2046.
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And they have the Hall of Fame inductions and we'd like to
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induct probably the greatest left tackle at NFL, His Proctor,
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right? You better hope it doesn't go
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that way for you. Look, that guy was 385 when he
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went to the combine. Did not go well for him, which
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tells me all I need to know about his motor.
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He's incredibly gifted. But if I said to you, hey,
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Trent, can there's going to be an opportunity.
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They're having this media camp that you go to get in the best
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shape of your life, have the best takes and you might get
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yourself a not $1,000,000 job, like a $20 million a year job.
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If you showed up grossly unprepared, not dressed properly
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and had no idea what was going on.
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And then you went, oh, I get a do over when they come to Iowa.
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We're going to have an on campus thing.
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And now you lost. You went from 385 to 357.
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You look better, you move better.
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It tells me all I need to know about your character.
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Absolutely. That's me, the old scout.
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No, that makes sense. So when you say they're willing
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to move up there, there are 25. How far would they be willing to
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move up cap? I would not be shocked if they
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went up to 16, did a deal with The Jets like 25 and pick 57 and
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maybe throw a six in there and see if, but it depends who's on
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the board at the team. Is the right left tackle there
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the correct left tackle? I don't know.
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Is the correct rush guy there? Is there a difference making
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safety? Caleb Downs is not going to be
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there. He is the best player in the
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entire draft, but he's not going one because Mendoza is going
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one. I think David Bailey's going 2.
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I think Arvel Reef. Going. 3 Ohio State is going 345
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right in there. Caleb Downs is going in the top
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10 somewhere. Jeremiah Lovett's top five pick?
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He's probably going 4 to Tennessee.
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Probably. And then Jeremiah loves going
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somewhere in the top Devon. So I would love to see Caleb
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Downs on the Bears. They don't have enough assets to
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be able to move all the way up. To go get that guy.
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You have to go probably 6-7. They're not going that far.
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But if they go to 16 and the Tienaman kid from Oregon, the
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kid from Toledo, those are two great safeties.
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You shoot in front of the Minnesota Vikings, who have
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basically sat there taking a safety.
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So I don't know if it's going to be an interesting, interesting
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10 days. We know a lot's going to be tied
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to the continued development of of Caleb and how that's going to
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go. But when you look at Ryan polls,
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there's been highs and lows. There always are.
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When it comes to drafting overall, what kind of grade
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would you give him, taking even free agency out of it?
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Just as we look at the draft coming up next week, how do you
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say see Ryan Polls as a drafter, the Bears GM?
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Well, I mean, I love Caleb. He got that right.
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Roma Doons and the jury's out. I think he's going.
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To be right there, I do too. You know, if you look along,
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Darnell Wright is an All Pro. And Darnell Wright in his one
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match up with Jalen Carter, who the Bears passed on, Darnell
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Wright just owned him. That Black Friday game last
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season in Philadelphia, he dominated them.
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So he was correct there. A Kyle Manung guy in his 7th.
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That's a hell of a pick there. So I think he's done a solid
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job. Oh forget, I think his first
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year he didn't even have a first round pick.
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That was from the Justin Fields train before he got here.
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So I think he's done a solid job.
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Maybe not spectacular. The Bayless Jones pick was
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horrifically bad, but other than that I think he's been pretty
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good. Yeah, I like the Johnson pick
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from Utah where he go second. Was that the year they didn't
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have a first round pick? Maybe 2020?
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Jalen Johnson was Ryan Pace. Was Ryan Pace okay?
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That was pace he took Brisker and Kyler Gordon in his first
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draft. Trend anymore football you want
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to switch to baseball let's let's get to the Cubs cap it
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looked for a little while anyways Oh boy they're going to
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here we go again a three nothing Phillies jumped out to three
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nothing lead but Colin Ray writes the ship.
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I thought he was fantastic other than that three runs that he
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gave up the bats came alive Nick Nico Horner after making a
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boneheaded move getting picked off at as he tried to go from
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second to third. He had a huge huge impact on
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that baseball game last night. So the whatever game today,
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Capita was good to see behind Colin Ray that the Cubs came to
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life and they actually hitting the ball yesterday.
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Yeah, they did. They were down 3 Nothing.
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And immediately, you know, I become the the poster boy for
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every Cubs fan that's mad has to reach out at me.
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Your Cubs stink. They're this.
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They're that. And whoa, 3 nothing.
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That's 30 to nothing. Relax.
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Let's see what happens. Then they get it to three, two,
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then they get it to 33, and then they come up, you know, with a
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bunch of runs to get it to 7, three.
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And then Carson Kelly hits the big three runs on the center and
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he smoked it and now it's 10 to whatever and ball game over.
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Yeah, JD called it too. Called the home run.
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He did. We played that audio this
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morning. My partner hoodie taped it home
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and brought it in on his phone goes we got to play this.
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It was hilarious. Lee, obviously staff looks a
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whole lot different without Kate Horton and done for the rest of
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the year. They're going to get Matthew
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Boyd back up pretty quick. He's going to be back out there,
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but there are some reports out there.
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Next week. Yeah, that boy will be back
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there, that the Cubs along with the Padres are kicking the tires
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on leak. Lucas Giolito.
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Boy, it doesn't feel like there's a whole lot of tread
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left on those tires is I guess that's the spot.
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We are here on April 15th. Well, he had a 10 and four
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record last year. His advanced metrics from one of
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the scouts I'm friends with, he said they were OK.
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I mean, 10 and four can be misleading.
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Your team can get you, you know, seven runs in the first 3
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innings and you end up winning the game because you're never
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pitching at high leverage. How are you going to be on a
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Friday afternoon at Wrigley like this week against the New York
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Mets? If you got that start and you
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got to face Soto and all these other guys?
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Lindor, are you going to be in that situation?
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It may not go as well if there's not a big cushion for you.
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Plus, he wants a two year deal and I think he made that clear
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again the other day. I want a two year deal.
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I I'll be surprised unless they have another injury.
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If the Cubs get that desperate to give him a multi year
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guaranteed deal. One year, yeah they might do
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that. Two years guaranteed, No shot.
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Cap who? Who still worries you on this
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team? Who's bat needs to come to life?
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Who's the What's the biggest concern when you watch the Cubs
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now? Biggest concern when I watch the
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cup, I need to see more from PCA.
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Offensively, it two hits last night, a double and a single and
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he's, you know, the best defensive center fielder in the
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sport. I'm a big fan, but he's got to
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start picking up the offense, got to I got to see what I saw
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last night on a regular basis. He is a great defender.
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The holes in the swing, will he ever be a guy that doesn't have
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that whole, I mean, can the contact skills for him?
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It's never going to be a leap by any means, but how much better,
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I guess, can a guy at this point that's seen already a lot of
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pitches in his career, how much better can he get in the contact
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aspect? I think he can absolutely
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improve it. I mean, look, Javi Baez was the
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worst at pitch recognition and then went out and finished what,
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second for MVP? And you know, he's never been
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what you'd call a discipline hitter hobby, but he got better
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at it when he was here in Chicago the last few years.
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Tammy Sosa, he was the worst. And then Jeff Pentland came into
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his life and the next thing you know, he's A320 hitter with, you
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know, a billion home runs and a billion RB is, yeah, I think he
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can get better. He hasn't been in the league
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that long. I don't think he's going to be
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like, you know, I was going at White Sox fans the other day
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because it seems like they are so anti PCA because he's so
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popular and it drives them nuts. And Kevin Durant tweeted.
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You see that the other day. Yes, with PCA, they brought it
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up in the broadcast last night. I didn't see it.
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PCA is a must watch now. They did a podcast together, a
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podcast network that Durant owns.
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And so some people like, he's just quoting a podcast.
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Well, he's also saying he likes watching the guy play.
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And Sox fans were so triggered. Oh, they are.
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What? He's terrible.
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Why do you like it? They get so upset.
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And so I called them all out and blasted him for being bitter and
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jealous. Look, is he struggling a bit
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offensively? The last, you know, in August,
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September and now, yes, that's fair.
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He's also the best defender in the sport at his position.
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He's one of the best base dealers in the sport and I think
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he'll get better with his pitch recognition.
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It's going to take time. Cap, if I ask you that last this
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last week, I apologize. Have you downloaded the Lovable
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Reunion podcast? I've only seen?
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This I've been. It's really good.
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It's really good, isn't it? It's outstanding.
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You know, I had Rizzo on for a weekly for five.
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I remember that. And I love Anthony.
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He was the worst. As in he said nothing, nothing.
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No, we we would wake him up and he one time he said we should
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cut the season down. And I said, well, you think you
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play too many games? Yes, well, you know, if you cut
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the season down, they're going to make you cut your salary down
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too, because that's how they pay the bills with TV.
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And his quote to me, well, I'm here.
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He said, yeah, they should. We make too much money anyway.
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And that day and the next day I ran into him at Wrigley.
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He's like, bro, you got me in so much trouble.
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I'm like, why? It was the union called.
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They were furious that he said we make too much money Anyway,
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He said I'm not saying anything. It could get me in trouble
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anymore. And so he was boring the rest of
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the way. I love him.
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He's a great guy in this role. I think he's magnificent.
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I do too. And you know who else is John
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Lester? I I mean, I thought Ross would
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be good because he seemed to have that personality.
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But but John Lester behind the scenes, these guys A had a ball
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B they were incredibly close and really good, as we found out as
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they finally broke the street. It's I'm not a podcast guy, but
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I'm getting really close to downloading the whole thing
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because what I've seen, yeah, it seems really good.
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Good stuff, Cappy, Terrific as always.
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Appreciate the time. Do you have a pick or two or a
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pick to win the the Stanley Cup or the NBA?
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Is a futures players out there starting to line up as the
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playoffs are upon us? Do you like anybody?
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I have, I have, I have Colorado and the Denver Nuggets.
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Those are my 2. Good stuff, Cap.
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We'll talk to you in a week. Thank you, Paul.
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Have a great day. Yep, see you, buddy.
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our weekly conversation with David Good Kaplan Good stuff out
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of KAPI Proctor to the Bears. Gross.
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Yeah, No, thank you. Mm hmm.
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Talented. Yes, he is.
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Yep. Talented.
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You think he's gonna put it all together?
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I don't Trent. I'm just not sure he's one of
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those guys, you know what I mean?
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He's got by in talent for a long time.
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He has you show up at Alabama and plays a freshman.
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It's not a talent thing, No. It's a motor putting in the
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requisite work and now doing it at the professional.
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Against pros. Right against pros where?
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This is your livelihood. You're El elite athleticism that
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you've relied on at that size throughout your whole career and
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it's always worked. It's not going to work at the
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same level of that. Link.
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Yeah. Is he a left tackle?
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I don't think so. Left guard, guard, maybe right
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tackle. Right tackle.
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Yeah, not to be a guard early in his career.
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Yeah, could see that. Just depends on where he goes.
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I just the Lions take him because then you can just RIP up
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your ticket. Now what do you have against me?
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Well, why don't you want me to win a bet?
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Because I never win bets, so I can't have you out there winning
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bets if I'm always losing my pets.
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Yeah, that would be. Plus, the Lions are in the Bears
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division. Sure, I get that part.
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What is that the position you want the bears to go after?
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I would love a rush end. Would you?
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Yeah. That's the one.
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It just the true pillow thing is just devastating.
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They played so well last year too, you know that final.
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And is it over over or is it still maybe some grey area
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there? For this season, it's over, I.
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Think. I think it is.
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Too. And I I think their blueprint,
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their game plan is they're doing everything under with the
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thought that he's not going to be part of the team this year.
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But then even going forward, I mean, you hear those kind of
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things that this could be a career ender, just such a weird
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injury, something that you so rarely see, but is devastating.
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You finally you find a very good.
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I don't think he was ever going to be an elite.
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Left tackle. Nobody solved the need.
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For sure, it was solid, right? Yeah.
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And at minimum, when you're solid and you got the rest of
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that offensive line and how good the interior was, all right, you
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can go from there. Now you're right back to the
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drawing board again. I just, I hate that part about
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it because. Well, let's see, I mentioned
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earlier I've been on the air almost 25 years now and I feel
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like I've been bitching about the Bears offensive line for
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like 24 of them. So.
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Yeah, seemingly you have, but I don't think it's been outrageous
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by any means or uncalled for. It certainly seems that way.
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All right, we'll take your time out.
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By the way, do you see the Masters television numbers?
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Massive, massive record setting television numbers for the 14 it
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averaged 14 peaked at over 20 million on Sunday, highest in
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over a dozen years. By the way, breaking news, it's
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over for other twins. No.
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What did they give up? They're winning one zip.
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They've given up five in a row. Simeon Woods Richardson has
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given up five here in the top of the third.
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The twins trail 51. Yeah.
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But there's still time, Trent. At the very least, they're going
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to get out of this Red Sox series by winning the series.
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You stack. Up.
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Absolutely. You're going to be in good
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shape. We got balls flying out of the
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park in Baltimore. 4/4 and that one.
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And have you watched the Cardinals much of that?
21:21
I've watched, I have. I've watched probably 3 or 4.
21:24
Not the entire, but I have a feeling I've watched enough
21:27
Cardinals to form an opinion. More than I have normally.
21:30
Me too. We've said it in the past, it's
21:32
not our favorite TV broadcast for why, why is I don't know
21:35
either and just whatever reason it doesn't rig in my ear right?
21:38
Mine neither, but I have watched them.
21:40
They're fun. They're not going to be good
21:43
this year. No, I still no.
21:45
But for a rebuild, we've talked a lot about Walker and the great
21:48
start that he is off to Weatherholtz off.
21:50
To start his career. I like the Herrera kid.
21:53
Like there's pieces that maybe this rebuild isn't going to be
21:57
quite as long as we thought. Maybe.
22:00
Maybe the finances are another part though.
22:02
Sure. Are they going to have an
22:03
ability right away say this off scene, Say they?
22:05
They're one of the teams that lost their TV deal, right?
22:08
And theirs was pretty substantial too.
22:11
We talk about way back in the day, KMOX and what that meant
22:14
for them and building that fan base across the Midwest.
22:17
That's why there is popular in the West as they maybe not to
22:21
the level that they once were because baseball on the radio
22:23
used to be a thing. But think about how many people
22:26
go. Out with your newspaper, by the
22:27
way, and listen to. Your generation?
22:30
How many Cardinal fans? Just more cash?
22:31
Without a doubt. Cardinal fans, I remember
22:34
sitting in my buddy Sean's driveway, big Cardinal fan, and
22:37
we'd be listening in. Osage Decay Mox Look how many?
22:40
Affiliates in surrounding states, yes, that they have.
22:43
They're you take a look at their map even today, all the way down
22:47
to Arkansas, Tennessee all the way or just a huge, huge
22:51
footprint that they have. Well, television different, but
22:56
you lose that money. They're of the the RSNS at that
22:59
time. They were towards the top of the
23:00
list too. Sure had to have been.
23:02
I think I remember seeing the list, it was like the Twins got
23:04
like 40 million, the Marlins were like 30, Guardians were in
23:10
the same kind of range, 35 million, Rangers about 35
23:13
million, and the Cardinals were like 65.
23:15
Like they were substantial out of what?
23:18
It was Bally's. For a while it was Fox Sports
23:20
Midwest and all the different affiliates became FanDuel for a
23:23
while. Those RSNS though, Cardinals
23:25
were making good money and that dries up.
23:28
That definitely changes the equation.
23:29
We'll talk Chiefs on the other side.
23:31
Chiefs have two first round picks.
23:33
What is Nick Athen hearing that they're going to do?
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Chiefs insider. He will join us.
23:37
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regional teams. The draft a week from tomorrow
24:00
round #1 The favorite in the AFC West is indeed the Kansas City
24:06
Chiefs. They're the shortest price plus
24:08
$1.65, Chargers second plus $1.85 + 220 on the Broncos.
24:13
And they're those Raiders at 22 to one.
24:16
Hey, they're in a good spot. I, I got a feeling, Nick, I'm
24:19
not look, it's not this year, but unfortunately I think within
24:23
the next couple of years, the, as a fan of the A-Team in the
24:26
AFC West as we both are, I think that the Raiders may be pointing
24:31
up as much as I hate to say. At one point, brother, you and I
24:34
are going to be correct about the Raiders.
24:35
Yeah, yeah. Hopefully it's it's it's not
24:38
anytime soon. Want to be correct about this
24:41
draft? Trent and I do we, we do our
24:42
mock draft. Do we get involvement?
24:45
It's it's a blast. We're going to do it on Monday
24:48
just because that's the the only day we could fit it in next
24:51
week. So a little earlier perhaps, but
24:53
but nonetheless, one to pick your brain 2 picks for Kansas
24:56
City. I'm hearing some there's some a
24:59
lot of buzz. And again, it's, it's Trent
25:01
said. You can't believe anything you
25:03
hear right now. Do you think that they are
25:06
actually pursuing moving up in this draft?
25:10
Are you hearing that at chiefsblitz.com?
25:14
We're. Hearing a little bit of the
25:15
noise, but I've also heard a lot more noise about the chiefs
25:18
trading out of nine. In fact, that's what I expect
25:21
them to do. If Reuben Bain is gone and David
25:25
Bailey is gone, you know, obviously Reese is going to be,
25:29
you know, top two probably. So I think at that point, the
25:33
Chiefs could probably slide down, get a good, you know,
25:37
defensive end, defensive tackle, wide receiver, cornerback.
25:41
In fact, I've got them, I've got them doing a massive trade with
25:44
Seattle in the first round just to get a whole bunch of extra
25:47
picks. So I would not be surprised if
25:50
that happened. Dropping all the way to 32.
25:54
Yeah, I've got the Seahawks 2nd next year, third next year and a
25:59
3-4 and five this year. I think it's what the trade
26:04
programmed out to be, so I know that was a pretty good move for
26:07
Kansas City. Definitely is restocking kind of
26:10
that talent pool and something they did what, 4-5 years ago
26:13
where, yes, you had the veterans, you know, Mahomes that
26:16
that payday was going to be coming.
26:17
But they also augmented things by drafting incredibly well and
26:20
going young at a whole bunch of different spots.
26:23
So kind of laying out a similar type of blueprint.
26:25
Is that fair to say, Nick? Yeah, firstly, all gone except
26:31
for George Karloftis. You know, they served their
26:33
purpose. They went to three straight
26:34
Super Bowls. You know, they they were an
26:37
integral part of the offense and the defense.
26:40
And I think when you look at that draft, I mean, that's
26:43
arguably the best in Kansas City Chiefs history.
26:45
And now they got to retool it. And I, I think I think Brett
26:49
Beach understands that, you know, this team needs to be
26:55
better, younger, and they have to be more affordable.
26:59
Now, granted, the salary cap is going to make a massive jump
27:02
next year, especially if all the new TV deals get renegotiated
27:06
early and those deals start next season, which I'm hearing
27:09
rumblings that it's possible. But when you look at the Chiefs,
27:13
you know, they're looking at wide receiver.
27:16
I mean, I love Carnell Tate. I mean, who doesn't?
27:20
But you know, is he going to be there at #9 or the Saints going
27:24
to take him? And I think they can just, you
27:26
know, Mount, Mike Mack, Mack I Lemon, another guy, phenomenal.
27:31
He's there. There's just so many good wide
27:33
receivers. And if the Chiefs want to draft
27:36
later, I think their targets going to be a Kenyan Sadiq.
27:40
I think they're going to see if they trade out of nine and they
27:43
fly. He solves 2 things.
27:45
One, he's a backup tight end, you know, to Travis Kelsey, but
27:49
he's more of a slot guy. He's got a lot of speed.
27:52
Yeah, he's got some issues, you know, as far as you know, how
27:55
many reps did he really get and how much involved would be in
27:58
the offense? But to me, he's the most he
28:02
solves 2 problems for Kansas City on the offense.
28:05
You know, get your wide receiver later in the draft with Ted
28:07
Hurst, the kid from Georgia State who I think he's going to
28:10
be a top three wide receiver when it's all sudden.
28:13
We evaluate this draft three to four years from now and they can
28:16
still get, you know, an edge rusher, you know, Malachi
28:20
Lawrence from UCF. People will torn that the kid
28:24
from Missouri whose name is escaping me at the moment as
28:27
well. So there's definitely a lot of
28:30
options for Kansas City, but I'm not buying in.
28:32
They're going to move up to get one of the tackles.
28:34
I think both tackles will be there, you know, at 912-1329 I
28:40
think. I think at least one of them
28:41
will be there. So I'm not I'm not sure I'd buy
28:44
that one yet. Yeah, I think Thanos, the guy
28:46
that's probably going to be there at that point the kids is
28:49
Miami's Maya Goa and I'm I'm butchering his name, but he's
28:53
probably going to be gone. What about you?
28:55
Here's my here's my fear as a guy that doesn't want the Chiefs
28:57
to do well next in the draft. Malachi Lemon was one of them.
29:01
The other one is Jeremiah Love and and he's you're going to
29:04
have to move up and significantly I would think if
29:08
you want the Notre Dame running back.
29:09
I think most drafts have Tennessee salivating to take him
29:13
at 4. Is there any chance that, you
29:16
know, kind of like clandestine fashion that Andy Reed and
29:20
company are looking at Jeremiah 11, trying to find a way to
29:23
because he certainly if he gets by Tennessee at 4, he's not
29:25
getting by Washington at 7:00. What about Jeremiah Love?
29:28
Does that make sense or no? I, you know, with Kenneth Walker
29:32
the third, I just don't see it. OK.
29:34
Yeah, good. Point Now listen, I've heard the
29:36
rumor they still love him. They view him as the top talent
29:40
in this draft. I don't think there's any
29:41
question he's numero Uno wherever he goes in the top 10.
29:46
I personally don't think he's getting past Tennessee, but you
29:50
know, if Sunny Styles is there, that might be pretty hard to
29:53
pass up. Caitlin Downs is getting a lot
29:55
of run at safety. That could be in a position
29:57
where the chiefs go. But you know, I I think it would
30:01
be great. I think it would strike fear
30:03
into the rest of the AFC in the NFL.
30:06
If they had two top shelf running backs, they could just
30:09
Burrow through and just do Smash Mouth football again, which I'd
30:13
love to see in Kansas City. So realistically, I don't think
30:18
there's much of a chance. But if he's there at 9 and
30:21
there's a team that wants him really bad because I think the
30:23
Bengals, if he falls to 10, I can't imagine the Bengals not
30:26
taking him. That would make no sense.
30:30
So at 9:00, if there's a team that really, really wants him,
30:35
that's the perfect the perfect place for Kansas City to be.
30:38
Want to you mentioned potentially the run game.
30:42
You already got Kenneth Walker there.
30:44
Pairing him with Love would be absolutely incredible.
30:46
Not fair. Ken would be freaking out when
30:49
we come to the show on Friday. Like you did with Clyde Edward
30:51
Solaire. Yeah, I think I saw tears
30:53
forming that day and it didn't come to fruition.
30:57
It did not. But Eric B, enemy's back as the
31:00
offensive coordinator. Mahomes coming off an injury, is
31:03
it a real big leap to anticipate this is going to be getting back
31:07
to the roots a little bit more, relying much more on that ground
31:09
game, getting things going on that front, and it's back to
31:12
what we saw maybe 6-7 years ago with this Chiefs offense.
31:16
Yeah, I think you're going to see Smash Mouth football from
31:18
Kansas City. I think the offensive line is is
31:21
built that way. You know, they still have to
31:23
solve right tackle, which I think they have an out.
31:25
There's certainly drafted tackle, probably the third
31:27
round, maybe fourth, you know, to provide some competition.
31:30
But I think you got to put Pastor Holmes under center.
31:34
Kenneth Walker, the 3rd is a is an under center running back.
31:37
You know, he's not a guy in the shotgun formation.
31:40
It's going to get a lot of snaps.
31:42
He didn't have a lot of success. He's so patient at the line of
31:45
scrimmage that I think they can they can really take advantage
31:48
of that. Then the play action gets
31:49
involved and I think that's what you're going to see.
31:51
I think that's why Eric BMV came back.
31:54
You know, I think Andy saw what he did in Chicago and, you know,
31:57
built a tremendous ground game. Now, Andy's still the offensive
32:01
coordinator, but I think he wanted Eric to come in and be
32:04
that enforcer for the offense and be the guy who rebuilds the
32:07
running backroom. The fact that they paid Kenneth
32:09
Walker, you know, as much money as they did, they were that to
32:12
me signals, OK, this junk offense and this RPO crap which
32:17
I can't stand, it's all majority of it's going to go out out the
32:20
door. And I think they're going to
32:23
rely on the running game. Now, will they take another
32:24
running back? It's quite possible.
32:27
But I think at this point, you have to look at Kansas City and
32:30
go, OK, they're going to have a very similar offense where they
32:33
have five years ago and they may get back Tyree Kill in June.
32:37
Which? I'm hearing it's a really strong
32:39
possibility that he's that he's going to come back.
32:42
If he's healthy now, he may not be ready to start the season,
32:45
but as an NFL minimum project, get him in in October, getting
32:48
used to football by November and having for December and January
32:51
football. I think the Chiefs would pay him
32:52
$5,000,000 to do that in RP. Justin Fields is now Patrick
32:56
Mahomes backup. I'd like the move, love it.
32:59
I think Mahomes is going to be ready in Week 1, but it's not a
33:03
certainty by any means. What are you hearing as far as
33:06
Mahomes availability when the season gets underway?
33:08
Do you anticipate he's going to be there?
33:11
Bet the mortgage payment, he'll be there.
33:14
There's there's no question in my mind.
33:15
He has so far had a schedule that, you know, if the Chiefs
33:20
didn't have any shackles or worries or concerns, if it was
33:23
up to Patrick, he'd be throwing footballs in mini camp.
33:25
Now, he still may to some degree, but I don't think
33:29
there's any question he's going to be ready by training camp.
33:31
Now. They'll slow roll it a little
33:32
bit because I think they want to get Justin Fields a lot of reps
33:36
because I think they're going to use him, you know, at this point
33:40
to, you know, put in the offense, run some wrinkles, you
33:45
know, do some things that, you know, make a lot of sense for
33:48
Andy to be more creative in the offense.
33:50
I like to feel, I love the trade.
33:53
I love to have this kid. I think with Andy Reid and Eric
33:56
B Enemy, he's, he's going to develop himself into a really
34:01
good quarterback in one that could either stay a backup in
34:04
Kansas City for a while or maybe get a starting job in 2027.
34:09
Off the field a little bit, I saw something over the weekend
34:11
from Mark Donovan, who said that after playing the last three
34:15
Christmases, including two at home, they want that to become a
34:18
fixture of their schedule going forward.
34:20
And that wasn't there something years ago with the Thanksgiving
34:23
games and maybe the Chiefs trying to get that night game
34:26
and be have that be a yearly occurrence?
34:27
Believe you're right, Trent. Yep.
34:28
They had the Hallmark movie that went along with it.
34:31
Was that a year ago where they had that part of it?
34:33
Just interesting the Chiefs trying to carve out their own
34:35
niche and being we're the Christmas Day team.
34:38
It's not a bad idea marketing wise.
34:40
Well, Trent, you're not only to remember maybe, maybe Ken is,
34:43
but the Chiefs used to play in the old AFL on Christmas Day in
34:46
Kansas City. And then the league went to
34:48
Dallas and Detroit and Lamar Hunt was extremely upset about
34:52
it. And then then they changed that
34:55
and they changed the third, the Thursday nights or night game.
34:57
And the Chiefs got the first one against the Broncos, which was I
35:00
think about a few weeks before Lamar Hunt passed away.
35:04
So at least he got to see it. And right now, the Chiefs want
35:07
to be that Christmas Day game. They want to be every Christmas
35:12
in Kansas City. That's a home game.
35:16
They think. They think they've earned it.
35:18
They think they've made the league a lot of money.
35:21
They are the number one view for most NFL games when they're on
35:24
TV and they they, they're they're going to cash in their
35:29
chip. So I know that Rodger Goodell
35:31
last year said that, you know, he didn't really want to do
35:33
that. But I don't understand why it's
35:35
still in Detroit, in Dallas every year.
35:38
It doesn't make for the Thursday.
35:39
So the Chiefs are saying, well, wait a minute, why don't we be
35:41
the staple on Christmas Day? And the Chiefs don't care what
35:44
day of the week it is. So if it's a Monday, Tuesday,
35:46
Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, they don't care.
35:49
They just want it in Kansas City.
35:51
Yeah, they're going to be playing on Christmas Day.
35:52
The NFL likes it. They get people to tune into it.
35:55
That would make some sense. And that was part of what you're
35:57
talking about. Nick and Trent.
35:59
That was part of that documentary, right when they
36:02
remember the Chiefs took his son to that bunker and they showed
36:04
all that Chiefs history that they had Nick and that you were
36:09
when Lamar Hunt wanted that and they took that away.
36:12
I believe that was part of that documentary I watched just
36:15
before the season started last year.
36:17
That was very informative. She's family I thought was very
36:20
good. Yeah, it was really good.
36:21
And Bob Moore, who's the curator, he did talk a little
36:25
bit about it. I would I think they could have
36:27
spent and they should have spent and somebody better do it soon.
36:30
It's just do a whole two or three-part series about that,
36:34
about that place. It's it's, it's pretty
36:37
remarkable the history they have there.
36:39
It even some of the history they have at Arrowhead, you know,
36:42
that they've got displayed there from some of the older stuff.
36:44
I think it I'm going to, you know, you know me, I'm an old
36:47
school AFL kid. And anything you can do to bring
36:51
that era back I think is good for the fans of today,
36:55
especially Chiefs fans. You don't really know the
36:57
history and they're only recent because of the Mahomes era.
37:00
But there was, there was a whole another life that was pretty
37:02
incredible. Yeah.
37:03
And so bad football being played and I missed those days.
37:06
Good stuff. Nick, Chief splits.com.
37:09
So what will you do leading up to the draft?
37:11
I don't think we'll talk to you until after the draft.
37:14
What will Chief Splits do? Will you be on the air Thursday
37:16
night? They've got 2 picks.
37:17
It sounds like they're going to make some news if they're moving
37:20
up or moving back. What's Chief splits going to do
37:22
for all the Chiefs fans? Listening Well, we'll do a lot.
37:25
We'll do a lot of article content with each pick and
37:28
leading up to it. Plus we'll be live Thursday,
37:30
live Friday, live all day Saturday.
37:32
So bell, the bell. Yeah, I think you did that last
37:35
year as well. Those are that was a big hit to
37:37
climb, but you. It was that Saturday was brutal
37:40
and especially the Chiefs don't pick in the 6th and 7th round.
37:43
It's it's going to make it even more difficult so.
37:45
You're the boss, you can close up shop.
37:47
I can close up shop whenever I want.
37:49
To good, good talk to you as always, Nick Athen, Chief
37:51
splits.com. Chief splits.com for Nick and
37:54
his team as they cover Kansas City Chiefs.
37:56
Thanks pal. All right, guys.
37:58
Appreciate you. Good to talk to you, Nick Athen,
38:00
as we take a look at the Kansas City Chiefs and some of their
38:03
plans, etcetera, etcetera. Are your twins cutting into that
38:08
51 deficit? Have you been watching?
38:11
It's still 51, still 51. Yep, the dream's over.
38:15
It didn't take much to break me down.
38:17
No, just go back just 140 minutes ago.
38:20
Yeah, just one last, despite the fact they won four in a row and
38:24
11:00 and 7:00. Best record in the American.
38:27
I think Chiefs are the Chiefs. I think Twins fans would have
38:29
signed if that record was the other way around if they were
38:32
711. That's not bad about if the
38:35
playoffs started today. Oh, Trent, what have you got?
38:38
The twins would be your number one seed, your two seed.
38:41
So they get the day off. The Tampa Bay Rays, also your
38:46
third division winner, would be the Sacramento slash Las Vegas
38:50
slash Oakland, you know. That's a pretty good, that's a
38:51
pretty good story that that's unfolding there.
38:53
That's a good story. Then your wild cards, the number
38:56
one wild card? Cleveland.
38:58
They would be hosting Baltimore and the Yankees would have to
39:01
travel to Sacramento to take on the A's.
39:04
I'd sign up for that. Sure.
39:06
Meanwhile, internationally, a. Little more boring Dodgers noise
39:09
and the Reds. Your wild cards?
39:13
The Padres, the Pirates and the Diamondbacks.
39:17
Padres What? What would you say?
39:18
Padres, Diamondbacks And who's Ritz?
39:21
Pirates. Pirates.
39:22
Pirates, yes. Some new blood, if nothing else.
39:27
Think it'll be that way, Trent? I think we'll get something.
39:29
Seems like we get that kind of every year.
39:30
I mean, we got the Reds last year, yeah.
39:32
Nobody had that. Nope, they did not.
39:34
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$5,000,000 deal, supermax contract.
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What a difference a collective bargaining makes for them.
39:58
It's good to see Bridget Carlton got paid, Megan Gustafson got
40:02
paid. They're all getting paid.
40:04
They are and they all deserve it, absolutely.
40:06
And they have one person to thank.
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And I don't care what anybody says, it's true it is.
40:12
But nonetheless, let's get to your plays of the day.
40:15
What are you wagering on today? 1 basketball player both games.
40:19
Well, we're working on something different.
40:22
Oh, I'm starting to dabble in a few player props and maybe some
40:25
more information about that coming up here in the coming
40:27
days and weeks. But I got three player props
40:30
that I'm playing around with on this new site that is based here
40:33
in the state of Iowa. So could you share the site with
40:36
us or I will not the line? OK, I know what you're doing.
40:40
OK, so you don't want them poached by someone else and it
40:45
might be listening to us and good for you.
40:48
Padinsky for the Warriors, Yeah, go over 13 1/2 points.
40:53
OK, we're going to go. Gary Payton, also over 6 1/2
40:57
points tonight. And did you get this info from
40:59
that? Site I did, and my final play,
41:02
Paul George under 2 1/2. Three pointers, that is, plus
41:05
money, plus 125 S, 3 player props for tonight.
41:09
And then three normal plays. We're going to go over again on
41:12
the Nationals Pirates game as I was watching on the edge of my
41:15
seat last night as they were 1/2 run off.
41:17
Yeah, went under, right? And the bullpen, those awful,
41:20
especially the Nationals bullpen and they were getting outs, but
41:24
we're going to go over again. 9 is the number in that one play.
41:27
The Warriors tonight, going to grab the 5 1/2 against the
41:29
Clippers. If you missed it, the tin hat
41:31
theory that we had from earlier, get the Clippers out of there.
41:35
No more worried about Kawhi and the shadow business and
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everything. Just get them out of there and
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another game at minimum for Steph.
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So we'll grab the five and A and one baseball play outside of the
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total we are going to go. It's going to end at some point.
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The Brewers plus one. 14 No, no, not today.
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I know you don't want it today. 114 + 114 with Patrick on the
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bound for the Brewers against Dylan Cease who feels like I'm
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always waiting for turn into a pumpkin.
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Yeah, but you know what? He has been.
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He has not been. He's not.
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Been brutal, but it's it's liable to happen today.
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But if you watch the first inning, he probably mows him
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down and then the second inning gives up a five spot and and
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then at the very end of Jay's closer who's already blown 3
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saves, comes in and does it again.
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We're out of time, but Kenley Jansen moved to third all time
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in the saves list. Did you really?
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Yeah, last night, Hall of Famer. I have that on our list to talk
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about today. Maybe we'll tackle that next.
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Week you have a good time in South Carolina.
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Safe flight. We'll talk to you in the first
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segment of the tomorrow and then your picks later on.
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That's going to do it for us. Appreciate you being with us.
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