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Finding Solace With THE GHOST INSIDE · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Yeah, let's do it. Oh, there is Chris Zach, I'm vigil.
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  This is Andrew and on the other line is Jim and we we are
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  the Ghosts Inside. We just put out a record. You did indeed,
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  guys, thanks for joining us today. Thanks for yeah, thanks for having
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  us man. Bye, absolute pleasure. So I think it's today there the
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  ghost Inside drop your sixth studio album searching for Solis today. So how does
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  it feel to have it finally out there in the world for people to digest?
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  It's very exciting, man. We've been sitting on it for a while,
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  you know. We been working on these songs for for how long now,
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  it's been a while. Yeah. We started, Yeah, about a
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  year and a half. Yeah, so weber twenty twenty two. Yeah,
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  so we've been sinning on for a while. So it's been nice to see
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  it come to fruition and see it out in the world and see people's reactions
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  and stuff. So it's it's exciting, Like, can you dog into it
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  a bit more from a musical point of view for us, Collis and tell
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  us what you've gone for? Yeah, I think you know, Andrew can
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  speak to quite a bit to this too. But you know, we feel
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  like with self Titled, we really stuck with like the ghost in side formula.
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  It didn't take any chances there. That record was very clear what the
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  objective was, kind of like long before we went into it. It was
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  gonna be the band's comeback record. Lyrical themes were all there right from the
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  beginning. And this time I think we just felt a lot more freedom.
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  And I'll let Andrew talk about that. Yeah, we we just didn't want
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  to set any limitations on ourselves for this one. Wanted to you know,
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  sometimes the band life can get it can weigh on you a little bit,
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  and at times, you know, we we could be afraid to make certain
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  decisions here or there with our music. But we went into this one having
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  a clean slate and just doing whatever we thought, we liked, whatever we
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  wanted to do. We tried anything and everything, and it was awesome to
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  work with so many different co writers and producers and and they sort of unlocked
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  like some things we didn't realize we had in us as a band, and
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  it was cool to see the outcome. Yeah cool, You've released the singles
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  Washed It Away, Death, Grip, Earn It, and Split, So
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  just say all someone's heard of the ghost inside of those songs on the radio
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  or something like are they a good sonic representation or what do you expect from
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  the whole band, a whole album. As far as the album, yeah,
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  it's really it's it's a it's a very push and pull record. It's
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  a very back and forth, up and down record, and it's all with
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  intention. And all the singles that have come out have been kind of contrasting,
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  like they've been one extreme or the other, like they've been kind of
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  pulling in different directions, and that's that's kind of how the vibe of the
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  record is because in life, there's no like direct linear path to anything.
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  Anything you you want, anything you do, is always going to have peaks
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  and valleys. You know, it's always gonna be ups and downs. And
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  we wanted to portray that in the in the songwriting process and in the record
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  as a full listen through like it. You know it starts, it starts
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  with just aggressive scream and it ends with a soft acoustic guitar with singing,
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  you know, like it's it's it's all with intention. I like I said
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  to you guys earlier, like I don't get out of bed early at all,
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  and I got up at eight o'clock this morning. I put that album
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  on and I reckon. I was awake within about five minutes. But there's
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  one song on there, one line in particular that really grabbed me. Guys.
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  There's a song called rap and the line and it says, the only
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  way to heal is to hurt more like that is it's so spot on the
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  money, but it's just not something you think of it. Where where that
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  come from? Uh? We were writing Wrath and uh, we were thinking
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  of a part for the build up, and I think it was something that
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  I had just said as like a placeholder. And then the more we thought
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  about it, we were like, you know what, like this is,
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  this is exactly spot on what this song is about. Like you know,
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  like you have to go, you have to go through the ship to get
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  better, you have to to really live in the down to to see the
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  other side of it, you know. And uh, that's kind of the
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  the symbolism behind the song. And it was I'm glad you resonated that line
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  because that's that's a that's a very cool line. It ended up ended up
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  being one of the stronger lines of of that song, for sure. I
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  think that's like chose another. It's another talent I guess in songwriting, like
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  the way you describe it, and then like a lot of people would take
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  that long verbouse way around describing it, but to sort of condense it all
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  down in one little line and to say the only way to heal is to
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  hurt more, it's just it should be on a T shirt. It's fucking
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  great. That's definitely an idea. We're gonna, we're gonna be, we're
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  gonna be doing. And I noticed there's no song on there called Searching for
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  Solace, which which means that the title's got to have a bit more significance.
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  Yeah. You know, Vigil really is the leader when it comes to
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  like lyrical things and thematic things, but he kind of let the rest of
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  us into the process a little bit more on this record in terms of like
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  helping to write lyrics. And so when we had finished the record and we're
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  thinking about a title and what this record meant to us and what the process
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  of making it writing it meant to us, it really was it became clear
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  to us that it was about this journey that we're on together and that for
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  so long. When we were younger, we were so focused on destinations and
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  finding solace and like always chasing these things and sometimes missing parts of the journey.
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  And as we are getting a little bit older and starting this new chapter
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  in our lives with this record in particular, that we're trying to be more
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  mindful of the journey and appreciate things as we experience them and not let life
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  pass us by as it's happening, and that you know, if you want
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  to find solace in life, it is an active process. Like peace and
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  health and those things that we all want to have don't come to you for
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  free. They don't fondo your lap. They take hard work, takes ups
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  and downs, It takes the yin and the yang and all that stuff.
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  And so you know, I think a couple of the words kind of pop
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  together, and we mixed and matched them in every way you can imagine,
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  and vidual kind of one one day when what about searching for Solace? And
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  that that was it. So you know, now we're stuck with it for
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  the rest of our lives. You've Dan broad State is producer for most of
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  the album, but you also had quite a kind of quistad and Glenn mcfolland
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  working on some of this song. So what was the reasonle having so many
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  different produces, Uh just just just to broaden the the scope of the record
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  and and not kind of box ourselves into one certain idea on one certain sound.
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  We wanted to explore other avenues because with the self Tile record, the
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  first one being back after the accident, obviously it was a very important record
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  to us. But like you know, Jim was saying earlier, we kind
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  of knew what the structure was going to be, We knew what the lyrics
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  were going to be about, We kind of knew what it was going to
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  be. And it felt like a very lateral move, which which is,
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  you know, an elevated version of what we were doing before. But this
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  one feels like a step up, like an actual uh yeah, just a
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  push forward. And uh So we wanted to embrace all the ideas possible and
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  work with some of our favorite producers and songwriters and and just get in there
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  and see what clicked, what works, what we were capable of, what
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  we wanted to do, because at the end of the day, you know,
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  we know what it's like to almost lose this and never get another chance
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  at that, so we if we had done anything that wasn't one hundred and
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  fifty percent, which would have been selling ourselves short, and then it would
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  it would just be fake. So we just did everything we could to just
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  just push ourselves the extreme. And I think it comes through in the in
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  the in the songwriting, in the lyrics, and in the performances. I
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  think we worked really hard on them. So yeah, it's a it's a
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  big record for us, and I can't wait for it to be in everyone's
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  ears. I don't know that the average listener probably wouldn't be out of tell
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  the difference between those different producers, But from a band perspective, can can
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  you hear much difference in my different producers mix you stuff? I mean,
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  each of those people brings something different to the table. Like when Dan Bronstein
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  sits down with a guitar and riffs around, it's you know, it's it's
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  stuff that we wouldn't have necessarily thought to try ourselves. So working with all
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  these different people helped push us and like kind of kind of grow. But
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  there's nothing on there that's not the ghost inside. You know. It's kind
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  of like having your edgy friend who says we should we should go do this
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  tonight and you're like, we can't do that, but you know, you
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  try it and it feels right, you know what I mean? Yeah,
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  for sure. Now Rowley is quite a design that we really know who we
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  are and we also feel comfortable stepping into the future now, So can you
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  elaborate on that a bit more? Yeah, you know, I think we
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  we have been a band for fifteen years or so as the Ghost in Side,
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  and all of us were in vance prior to this, and you know,
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  we're guys who are married, have kids. We're like, we're more
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  confident I think in our own skin now that we've ever been, and that
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  we're going to tell people who the Ghost in Side is. We're not going
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  to let people tell us who the Ghost in Side is. And you know,
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  I think one of the things that we really tried to do with this
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  record, and we keep going back to this word is just to be.
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  And I actually have Winston from Parkway Drive to blame for putting that word in
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  our head. We saw him pretty early in this writing process and he was
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  asking, you know, how things were going, you know, maybe what
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  direction we were going to go in? And I said, you know,
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  like the record at that time definitely didn't feel like it was quite coming together
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  yet. It felt like a bunch of different songs written with different people,
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  different producers. And he said, whatever you do, go after it one
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  hundred percent. He's like, don't take the edge off anything because you think
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  someone else isn't gonna like it. He's like, if you like it,
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  that is the litmus test, and don't let anyone else decide what your band
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  is. He's like, so, whatever you do, be bold and go
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  for it one hundred percent. Yeah. I was actually only speaking of Winston
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  a couple of days ago when you guys came up, and that guy is
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  probably one of the most inspirational people I've ever met. Like, he's so
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  so positive with everything, and he's so driven, isn't he's He's just one
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  of a kind. He's superman for sure. Yeah, he's a Speaking of
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  Winterton on Parkway Drive, you guys actually making your way back to Australia in
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  September for a run of shows for the twentieth anniversary. Tool like those shows
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  nearly all sold out already, guys, it's gonna be fucking massive. The
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  crazy thing about that, it's It's like Parkway Drive could have done these that
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  arena tour without any other bands. They were like, dude, they literally
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  could have just announced them that them doing this in arenas for you know,
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  come back to Australia doing a tour. They hadn't they haven't done it and
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  for you know, a home tour and forever, and then they would have
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  sold out with me playing with them. But that's the out of the kindness.
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  We're like, dude, let's bring some some sick bands and let's make
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  this like a whole ordeal. So you know, we're very honored that they
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  thought of us, and we had you know, we had we've been having
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  uh stuff in Australia in the works and it's kind of hadn't worked out for
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  us, and we were trying to get down there and then yeah, one
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  day we got this call and it was like, yep, we're doing that.
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  There's no no chance for turning down a Parkway Drive arena tour in one
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  of the best countries in the world. So yeah, we're we're very grateful
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  that they asked us to hop on those shows. And uh, I mean,
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  I think it might be what I'm most excited for this year is is
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  that tour and to be able to play some arenas and just have those vibes,
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  it's it's very exciting. Yeah, and it's not just you guys of
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  Couls is our pro Vile and Void of Vision as well. So you go
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  full headline is in one bill like it's it's no wonder it's sold out.
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  Yeah, it's a it's a wild lineup, man, it's a wild line
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  up from If my research is correct, you guys were Last Daddy if it's
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  Full Children twenty twenty two. No, the Full Till ended up getting canceled.
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  I'm not exactly sure why it happened, but we were supposed to be
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  on Full Till and it ended up not happening. Oh, the whole tours
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  ended up not happening. Solast time we were in Australia was we played Unify
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  in the outskirts of Melbourne in twenty twenty twenty. Yeah, twenty twenty and
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  for the pandemic, right before the pandemic and then yeah, the time before
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  that would have been what twenty fourteen. Yeah, Yeah, it's been Yes,
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  we've done a full yeah, so yeah, it'll have been ten years
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  since. Some of the people have seen us so because I don't imagine everyone
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  was able to make it to unify, you know, like it's in the
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  middle of nowhere and you know, yeah, well three fresh to everyone's memory.
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  What what can stray and fans expect from the Ghost and sidel like run
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  us Through like it? I like, say, a typical live show,
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  because there's no such thing as a typical live show, but run Us Through
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  what you got I reckon you guys would be explosive as fuck. Yeah,
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  just just a lot of intensity, a lot of interaction, a lot of
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  sing alongs, and a lot of energy. I think that's a big thing
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  for our band, is we We really thrive on on putting off the energy
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  and getting it back from the from the crowd and the every single time we've
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  ever come to Australia, man that they've been so supportive and and all the
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  people down there have been been so into our band. And we've been going
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  there since we've been lucky enough to be able to go there since two thousand
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  and eight, pretty much every year, if not every other year, and
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  we have a good career down down in Australia, So just excited to get
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  back there and play for some people and play for some fans, and then
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  play for a lot of people who've never heard of us before. Because Parkway
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  is the biggest band in the whole world. You know, they're playing I
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  think people arenas. It's like, yeah, that's insane. So the other
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  side of that too is the band hasn't been there for a full tour in
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  ten years, so you have to imagine that there's quite a few people who
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  may not even know the band exists at the point. Yeah, So it's
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  a really awesome opportunity that Parkway is giving us to play for people who may
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  have they've never even heard the band before. Why he's gone to be playing
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  a half of Australia right but side all right, boys, well, thanks
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  very much guitar. It's been a pleasure of the album searching for Solaces out
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  now and she's a fucking bracker. Your boys will be out here with Parkway
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  Drive later on this year in September, so there's plenty happening guys, and
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  I'll be in the Brisbane show so hopefully catch up Forrivera Let's go. Yeah,
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